Def not tryna play devil's advocate, nor am I taking her side or making excuses for her $#!++y behavior (I honestly can't stand it), BUT I believe the likelihood is pretty big that she's actually not in overall control of her SM presence/content. I've always thought it's the most likely case. Do w/ that what you will. 😉
I just noticed on TikTok they added a “unhealthy body image/disordered eating” option when reporting BECAUSE of her .. that was not there a couple weeks ago and now she’s age restricted and that’s been added .. they def gave her a good talking too lol that’s why JS said they “did her dirty”
Nobody is missing anything except a pathetic 30-year-old woman, begging and panhandling for hours after hours to young influential children she’s 30 years old and needs validation from teenagers. Her ED is definitely a mental illness. She needs to get help and stay off of social media.
@@LOVEEEVEEY lol love that. My husband jokes about how, as long as I'm standing both feet on the floor, it must be impossible for anyone to push me over.
@@dumplingdisaster9860I mean creeps gotta stick together how else will they thrive that and both Jeffree and Nicki's husband can't go within range of a School zone
I think both are in the wrong. Nikki for dating a offender and Megan for making a whole song about someone else's partner and who they choose to date. That is not really her business and will open a whole can of worms. Wether she agrees or disagrees with who she dates. But it's good for publicity. Anything with drama sells.so from a sales point of view, it is smart. But not very nice. Even if Nikki's dating an offender and we don't agree with her choice in men. But it is what it is. I don't listen to either of their music so I'm staying mutual on it. (Edit: my bad I didn't know it was one line in the song. But it was clearly about her husband with a law about SA. However, she should have just minded her business if she didn't want extra drama. However, for marketing, I can understand her stance. And she is more famous then she ever was previously because of this )
About the voice....it's a side effect of her disorder. The muscles aren't strong enough to control the vocal cords, plus hormonal issues related to the chronic manultrition play a factor as well. I'm on the fence about whether she plays up the innocence voice. Honestly what I speculate we were seeing with some of voice changes was more a physical reaction to chat depending on the topic at hand. It's very high pitched when she's blabbering on about nothing of substance, filling time not thinking deep, her brain seems almost turned off you know, just existing .... Then when something gets under her skin, you see a physical reaction in her with the voice included as well. I think when people say "oh she slipped and used her real voice" , it's actually " her using what little muscles are left whether she's worked up about this or that. Suddenly she's animated and engaged and trying to think and communicate....which physically causes what we hear as her "deep voice*
I love that we heard her say “ go ahead and report me, I’ll always get it back!” Pure arrogance! Laws are changing slowly about kids and the internet and I feel like Tik Tok did a pivot before they ended up in a big mess.🤷🏻♀️
Yeah they're already in a big mess, right after New Year's a group of 5000 parents filed a class action lawsuit against tiktok. They're being sued for exposing their kids to content that promotes self-harm including body dysmorphia and ana. Eugenia's profile was age-restricted a couple days after the lawsuit was filed, if I were a betting woman I'd put all my money on the 2 being related especially considering how often she gets reported.
Nicki just assumed that Meg was talking about her and then went delulu on instagram live,, Meg never named any names🙄 and jeffree is a clown for being a sheep🤣
@@unfocusedanxiety she mad bc her man a pedo and her brother is a child rapist,, Nicki mad tacky,, I used to be a barb but affer the whole meg thing nah fuck nicki,, besides I’ve been a die hard Megan Hottie the last 3 years than Nicki a fan periodt
Elmo is age restricted and he was able to battle and receive gifts. She’s delusional and I’m not even trying to be mean. I just genuinely think she thinks it’s an insult to age restrict herself because “she’s not doing anything wrong”
I don’t think her absence has anything to do with money… it’s the fact that someone, anyone, had the audacity to tell her no and actually enforce it. She has ALWAYS gotten her own way, right down to her mother giving in when she, a literal baby at the time, refused to sleep safely in her crib. Think about it… she. Was obsessed with Bratz dolls so she got EVERY Bratz doll available; she loved the Jonas Brothers and wanted to go to all their concerts, her parents made that happen; she alleges she was bullied in school (which I do not buy for one second) and decided she wasn’t going back and her parents pulled her out and “homeschooled” her; she has a literal team of lawyers who’s only interest is preserving what Eugenia wants. This is an extraordinarily entitled woman, the likes of which we seldom see. She has NEVER been told no and not been able to tantrum her way in to getting what she wants. Back to her school days, her “bullies”, I would be willing to bet, were kids who didn’t do what she wanted and teachers who told her what to do when she didn’t want to do something (eg “I want to site here” -> teacher says no that’s someone else’s seat -> tantrum ensues -> teacher is a bully!). It’s not at all unlike the way she spins anyone opposing her delusion into being a “hater” or a “bully”. I don’t think we fully appreciate the exactly how catered to this brat has been her ENTIRE life. Spoiled is an understatement! Her sickeningly sweet persona is extremely well crafted to hide that.
I read an interesting thing recently that kind of scraped together all of Eugenia's interviews and stuff and it sounds like the "bullying" was other girls making fun of her clothes and makeup starting somewhere between age 6-10 which makes me wonder, why was she wearing makeup that young? She also alleged that other girls would lift up their shirts and say they were skinnier than she was. So it sounds like fairly normal stuff except that Eugenia was wearing makeup from a really young age. She also said that she switched schools multiple times and it kept happening. It's all very very odd. So yes, I agree with you, including to the point that she was allowed to wear makeup and more adult clothing from a very young age. And also there were some pictures of Deb taking rather provocative photos of a 17 year old Eugenia and it's all very weird.
I've stated this very opinion and of course people came out in numbers telling me Iam wrong but those are all facts we KNOW about Eugenia. Shes dangerous not awesome,kind and positive...toxic and naive but the whole naive part is to feed her ego/persona.Shes ALWAYS been the victim and doesn't want to change that either.Its just sad...
She was a literal baby who happened to be active and had sleep difficulties. That's no excuse to strap her in a car seat so you don't have to deal with her 😂 What an insane thing to say... She didn't "want" to be in the car seat either, she just couldn't get out. Deb didn't let her do whatever she wanted - Jaclyn had a lot to say about how controlling she was...
I think the companies with a live streaming option are becoming fully aware she is a liability. Eugenia can deny it until the cows come home but everyone, including social media staff know her heath is failing. They already come under fire for allowing her on their platform in general, but what about if something were to happen to her when she's live? Her health is at the state where she could have a serious emergency live on air, from a business and reputation standpoint that would be catastrophic for the platform and exceptionally damaging as the news will go to mainstream media, not just within the smaller circle of within the social media platforms.
You're completely right! Could you imagine any company openly employing someone who could drop dead any second? A receptionist, salesperson, cashier, Uber driver - w/e!? I think the fact that children would be allowed to witness something so tragic would put TT in dire legal jeopardy, as well, esp w/o the age restriction! If my child saw someone starving to death who then died right during a live stream, on camera, I'd be fuming mad! It'd probably take awhile for someone to contact Deb, too, & for her to go turn off the camera! Ppl would have to see her reaction to discovering her daughter dead, too! Who knows how she'd react, bc she's complicit, IMO, & the world WILL vilify her once EC passes, regardless if it's during a live. I wonder if EC or Deb have considered that? I bet their lawyers sure have, & if they haven't, they should!
Im 26 years old and I love all Sanrio, collect dolls, plushies. Anything I consider adorable. The difference between me and Eugenia is that well I don't condone pdfiles , I don't flash my audiences who are mainly children/teens, and try act like a little girl. That's just me. You can like Powerpuff girls but with her history it's sus.
You also are self aware enough to know it's a hobby to collect items you enjoy. Something she doesn't or cannot distinguish the difference. To keep herself in balance.
Same here, you can like anything you want but when it comes down to how you treat people and spit on others is crazy.She literally can't do anything for herself besides log into an app.She can't do laundry, she can't even plant a flower, bake a cookie, make a sandwich lol...she literally lives in a world that solely revolves around her and anyone who doesn't agree with those vibes then they are a hater, a nobody..As someone who suffered for over a decade with ED and had to fight and build a new relationship with food, all I wanted to do was support this human but she creates the drama,she loves the attention and she clearly has become so selfish and could even care less of her fans.They send her 100s and if they say anything she doesn't like even if it's supportive towards getting help,she will block them.Just like Jeffree this people are just money signs, they don't even have names to them and are extremely replaceable as long as they follow the rules of acceptance of any bullsht
@@prinsesopdeerwt1 I just refuse to sympathize with her. She's lost it and thinks Jeffree star "cares" about her as a best friend too.Wake up Eugenia....
Warped tour introduced so many creeps to young kids. It’s staggering the amount of creeps have been exposed that have been associated with that tour. Adding to include that Austin Jones, a convicted PDF, was enabled by manager Bryan Stars, who also managed EC at the time and added EC into their collab group MDE. Interesting how all roads lead back to warped
but....wasnt it great? I bought my first paraphanelia at warped lol and was given free condoms at 15. My friend was denied free condoms because " she didnt need them for lesbian sex" lol what? who said she was a lesbian? Why did I wear a free hug shirt and hug old men all day? why did I purposefully share sweat with people in the ETF mosh pit? SHIT why did I wait 4 hr to meet Jeffree Star back in his "vinyl black stilettos and fake eyelashes. Blue eye shadow, everything perfectly matches....." phase. (yes there are pictures LOL he was such a hot mess back then)... I honestly miss warped. It was beautifully f*cked up. It was ours. The vibes were immaculate even if it was highly problematic. Tell me you ever stopped having fun day of warped except maybe the end of the last set. It was a highlight of our generation.
@@annelisecochran9291 I mean as a teen who also worked at many dates of warped for different bands/ clothing booths/ was doing interviews and show photography, no. I’m grateful for the experience and fun I had, but holy fuck I was NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. What the fuck was I doing as a literal teenaged child on these tour bus with grown men. There were so many drugs and alcohol even though most of these bands played like they were straight edge. The amount of grown men trying to push boundaries with someone who was there in what was trying to be a professional capacity and not a fan capacity makes me look back with so much anger. Especially knowing how many of these fans were taken advantage of. There were so many shady situations that I am so glad I ended up alive from. And don’t get me started on Kevin. So no, I don’t think of those as “the glory days” especially when there were so many other tours and festivals back then.
He is a drama vulture and somehow he has made a pretty long lasting career out of it. I’m shocked he never had a trashy reality dating show, at this point.
Just wanted to let everyone know she filed taxes on the Jan 20th and she was the signer and person filing. How do I know this? CT has public records. (Edit: so at least on the 20th she was alive and well enough to do taxes) (and yes it's legit it listed her name, address, business and it's on a .gov website)
@pandacat66 it's not impossible. Jan 30th is technically the deadline to send out tax forms to taxpayers. I've filed taxes before Jan 30 several times with no issue. I'd think EC taxes would be more complicated, but 💁🏽♀️ maybe not?
@@Liz_in_the_OCI have zero doubt that she has an in-house accountant who can work magic most people arent even aware of. My mother's an accountant and she has already started filing for her B&B. When you are your own boss you don't have to wait for the paperwork to be released.
This just proves she knew exactly what she was doing. Everytime she said "I don't do this for money", she lied. I'm glad the audience has won. I hope she will focus on her self and her help but she won't. I think the reason she acts like a child is from nostalgia before her trauma. She doesn't have irl friends so she's completely out of touch. Love ya jordy
@Nevaeh672 I think that's why she is throwing a fit by not coming on tiktok. Someone put there foot down finally and she doesn't know how to handle it. I think you have a good take
With regard to the childlike voice and style - we know that she used to move heavy objects around her room, because she knew that she’d get donations from a “certain type” of audience. I wonder if she sees that she gets more attention, affection, donations and likes if she puts on the “little girl” style voice. It appeals to those type of people who want to “mother” people who are struggling, and also to that other “certain type” of audience. I imagine she knows she can get out of difficult conversations and get her own way by acting childlike, possibly a tactic she learned growing up? I also read a few folks mentioning it being a potential trauma response too, which could definitely be a possibility
Jordy be popping context left and right. It's hard to keep up but loving it! I do wanna say though I 100% think that it's fine to wear what you like/love as long as it's publicly appropriate. My grandma loves wearing betty boop to the core cause it brings her joy and my 25 year old sister likes wearing Hello Kitty not hardcore but enough to at least notice.
I agree. I'm 60 and wear Yes We Vibe boots, and lots of Betsy Johnson stuff. It's just me. I'd feel strange wearing conservative clothes. I like Eugenia's style, but that's as far as it goes with her. I once thought she was sweet, but I've seen her act condescending to her fans many times.
I think maybe she would be in a different boat but I dont believe that Eugenia would have ever age ristricted herself because in her mind she truly thought she was covering her tracks enough by saying shes not telling anyone to do anything. However the truth is that I believe she crossed the line the second she started making "workout videos" telling people they can achieve her weight and phycique by working out and doing the obvious thing shes doing...her videos were already risky because they were clearly about shock value but now, shes taken it a step further by actively influencing people to look like her and poking the bear (tiktok) saying that if she was really doing something wrong they would stop her...welp they did and now she cant handle it at all. As for rhe platform, she never cares about her audience, she knows most of her viewers are fetishist and enablers or people who have fallen victim to the same dissorder. The other percentage are haters in her eyes where she groups the people concerned with the trolls together. Given she clearly doesnt care about her own well being I doubt shed batt an eye for her fan base...like twitch, those subscribers got an "oh well im on tiktok now" 🤷♀️
Yup attention and money from those with the same problem OR the fet fishers that get off watching malnourished people struggle doing basic tasks. Plus attention is attention. Whether its good or badm also You can tell how stupid and naive she acts now days compared to the past. A perfect example is the gardening video. She has one from the past where she wasn't afraid of dirt, got dirty, knew exactly what to do, didn't play dumb. Now the last one was the complete opposite and so fake. Everything she does is fake, a whole act for them sickos!!! They are almost always pd files also! (Malnourished, similar to small body of child. I mean not really but kind of if you get what I am saying) she's always defended sicko! (Edit added a sentence)
Eugenia leaving her audience in the dark isn’t anything new for her. When she decided to leave twitch all together, we had absolutely no warning. The week or two prior, she went to Disney for 3 weeks, meaning- she didn’t stream that entire time. Once she finally came back, the month had already ended, and those who paid for subscriptions and GIFTED subs basically wasted that money for the month. When she finally streamed again, we assumed she’d be back to regular schedule, but nope! I’d say about 2 or 3 weeks later, she left twitch entirely- no warning or goodbye, no thank you, no lead-up, no explanation, no apology…. NOTHING. And yet again, people wasted their money for the month (if not multiple months- I’m not too sure how longer subs work tbh). *NO refunds.* Basically any time she was asked about this on TikTok, she got at least vaguely defensive, and then gradually more outright about it (this was when she began saying she didn’t even like gaming). She does not and never has cared about her supporters. She has and always will leave “us” in the dark, and will only return and (if we’re lucky) provide a half-@$$3d apology when and if it benefits her. Keep in mind- she’s left us in the dark from day one. It’s exactly why she doesn’t talk about anything substantially medical- it does not benefit her to. This is who she is.
Jorddyyyy hearing you say you think about us when you don’t upload made me teary eyed🥹 you’re a gem and your content is timeless. Don’t play with ittt💅
You could just move to Wyoming, however. We're attracting some interesting people. First Kanye (not unhappy that didn't work out as our property backed into his) but when he was on his meds he was pretty cool. Now Jeffrey's in Casper and I believe Ivan Moody from FFDP has a house here as well. I think he's in Cheyenne.
I think there is more going on with Eugenia. She depends on the internet and followers not only monetarily, but socially. Her being MIA this long is suspicious to me. Entertaining the speculation that her absence is due to the age restriction makes complete sense. Her dressing style is targeting the younger demographic. Her lack of clothing targets another demographic. Eugenia’s mannerisms and behavior is crafted to make as much money as she can. I find it funny her “friends” aren’t doing more in solidarity for how TT “wronged” Eugenia. I mean if my close dear friend was done dirty, I would be part of their united front to make things right. J ⭐ and friends don’t GAF. For as long as Eugenia’s absence continues is more money in their pockets.
Well she did just file taxes on Jan 20th. She was the signer. At least in WI you cannot do taxes personally from a facility like she would be in. Someone on the outs has to do it for you which would mean she wouldn't have signed off on them. CT had public records. I think she is just age restricted, banned from going live, mad, and maybe her legal team told her to stay off the internet until they get this figured out for her.
For fun's sake- what if all those variables actually weren't (completely) her idea to begin w/? What if it's been somebody else titling her vids, choosing randomly strange short vid locales, maybe even outfit choices? What if? I've thought about this possibility a lot, and being honest, makes sense of SO much that currently makes none. I'm just saying- what if!?
Interesting thought about her " friends" not being more vocal about the injustice that's happening to their dear friend. She's obviously served her purpose and he's left to out to dry. I knew it wouldn't be pretty when their relationship ended. She's probably devastated by exactly what you said. I will even go as far as her asking for him to stand in solidarity with her. I'm sure he laughed in her face. I can't help but think Mr ⭐ is behind all the banning that was happening over the past few months and possibly the current isssue of the age restriction. He wants to monopolize. Destroy and conquer!
@@ajordan1976 it's still completely possible they've been asked or even told not to speak about anything besides screaming ish like "Eugenia's in the chat, y'all!"? ijs
Also, just feel the need to add that in terms of money generated online EC depends on view count, not 'live' gifts or the like. she literally made roughly 1/2 milly from views on just the 1st few rows of vids on her TT profile.
Is it possible to contact RUclips’s legal department for more information? Just have them explain the process in order to be a “better content creator?” I’m curious what the legal grounds for this are.
That was my thought when Jordy was like ‘what do these to women have to do with Jeffree Star?’ I thought ‘nothing, but he’s like a drama vulture so here he comes.’ He has tons of opinions and no real causes, other than getting in the middle of it.
This is going to be a sick new way for horrible people to hide their past and stop smaller creators...hopefully you can find a loop hole through fair use, very unfortunate because youre not just slamming and exposing them, this community also has conversations about really important subjects 😔
Never pompous as someone who loves to silently listen from afar. It’s fun to listen to what you have to say. All I can say is do you and keep your physical and mental health up, breaks are necessary so thank you and keep doing what you enjoy.
the rebecca black stuff is so creepy… thanks for bringing attention to it. I’ll never understand the appeal of jeffree… love you jordy keep doin the work, always a fan 💛
I think we should let Euginia go. So many more interesting people out there. We've been fighting to get her away from kids and shes gone. Lets keep her irrelevant.
@@LucyStormbringerLasticthat’s not true though.. this was founded on Gorl World. EC as well as J⭐️ are side characters to that tradition. 🤷♀️ Were here for Jordy at the end of the day anyways, his reactions are campy and almost like a slumber party especially during night livestreams 😊
@@LucyStormbringerLasticJordy covered Gorlworld and Amber Lynn waaay before EC. She just happened to be a person of public interest and he has a react channel.
He won't he's making to much money talking about her. Dude goes live suddenly almost every day out of no where. She's only staying relevant because of the coverage other people do for her. She could be gone for a year and he'll still be making throw back videos on her.
I had a terrible night last night, having a Jordy video to get up amd start the day on no sleep helped me feel a little more normal. Love to start the day with some scathing Jordy commentary!
Finally a Jordy video I can watch 💃 the live streams are absolutely mind numbing… Did Meghan feel this way when she had Nicki and her husband in the hot girl summer video??? Get Up On Ya Good Foot 🦶🤣🤣🤣
OMG I would need to rent a convention center for all of us and cater breakfast, lunch and dinner in order to fully discuss my thoughts on all of these topics. Imagine having this much money just to sit at home all day, e-beg and ignore/ insult all of your fans 🤡. Also, we love and appreciate you Jordy 🤍🤍🤍
Eugenia knows very well she is feeding people her childish and pro-ana-fetish-stuff. From flashing to acting a certain way. She been making big money out of it for a long time, its what sells best and she cant do anything else. In my opinion this is why she refuse help, refusing to give up that part of income.
25:39 she is 100% purposely changing her voice. In the beginning, her voice (to me) was natural. Then, as her Ed took a bigger, harder, grasp on her life, her whole self started to change. Her voice got higher. Makes me think that this is her other personality, the one who isn't sick, the one who's 'famous' on social media. She dresses like a child, does her hair like a child, so of course, her voice has to go & match it. Her Ed has taken so much of her ability to remember, and to speak in full sentences, not just filler words, like ya, um, so anyway, super super cute, rambling on about what she is wearing when we can see the shirts pink with a power puff girl, we can see fluffy sleeves, or stripes. I'm shocked JS hasn't made a 2 seconds. "Eugenias fine everybody, she doesn't need to explain herself to any of you bitches" video, just to let her page followers know she's alive. Honestly, every time she disappears, my first thought is in the er,or had a heart attack, and passed. But I know sjes made because she was age restricted and her lawyers are I'm sure, working over time to figure out how to get her back to where she was, with no changes
Oh my god Jordy she is blocking you. How childish and she must be so intimidated by you. It's because what you do is so important and I feel that this will be studied my many in the future.
Wtf is with her riding that unicorn in the thumbnail. The pretzel speaks for itself lol, anyone that's been around long enough definitely understands the pretzel.
Meghan wasn't "alledging" anything. Nicki really married and had a child with a CONVICTED sex offender. Is he not on house arrest right now for failing to register as a sex offender? 😭 who sides with this? it's wild
I am 44. I developed an ed in 5th grade and started struggling with bpd. I am perpetually stuck at a younger age. I am a functional adult. I work very hard. I run a house. But I have tattoos and piercings. My purse is a Michael Myers bloody knife purse. I know I probably look ridiculous. But I am who I am. Some of this is what’s going on with Eugenia I believe. But I also think she doesn’t want to grow up. And some of that is deliberate. I really think in her case it’s a mix.
I'm 60; I embrace my age and don't mind getting older one bit. I actually enjoy the peace that comes with it. However, that said, I just like young things. I wear lots of Betsy Johnson clothes; and Yes We Vibe boots. I keep getting tattoos also. And up until two years ago I had magenta hair. The vibe just goes with my upbeat personality. It's just how some people are. Though in Eugenia's case I'm sure you're right. In a weird way she reminds me of a much younger version of Angelyne the Billboard Queen in L.A. who always wears pink and has the pink car, and won't show people her face.
@@BeYounique...Maryanne You’re right. I remember her! And thank you for making me feel better. I also feel like I’m acting too young but it’s just who I am. Who I’m comfortable being.
What’s weird is I literally feel relieved with Eugenia being gone. I don’t think about her. I don’t care to ever see her on social media again. I don’t care to hear anything about her anymore. I’m just relieved and glad to not see her anymore. 😂
Eugenia has been very spoiled and able to get around any objections to her bs online for a very long time now. She’s probably just having herself a little temper tantrum, and will turn up somewhere sooner or later.
What if it was Debbie that pushed Eugenia to have all her YT videos copyrighted, so that whoever (Netflix or others) wants to release a documentary after the "end", will have to pay a shit ton of money?
All of you saying shes just acting like a child and there are adults that wear tshirts with cartoons on yeh i get it but which of you would wear skimpy santa lingerie with stockings and prance around a garden centre with the public watching in the middle of winter at 30 years old
I find it weird that she’s doing it AFTER losing the face fat .The ana f3tsh appeals to a lot of predators and she already does struggle k0rn ,flashing. I think it’s more of the latter rather than her actually being into the style .
Regarding Jeffree saying grape me, he got that from Nirvana's song with the same title. I suppose it was "cool" for certain fans of Nirvana to use that as a response. We know he was a fan because he has a portrait of Kurt Cobain on his chest. Just did some Googling and found this: "In an episode of Tattoo Diaries, Star revealed many of Cobain's songs helped him 'grow as a person and soothed his soul.'"
OH, that's what he meant!! I thought "grape me" was another phrase for "tea bagging" ... LMAO, I'm such a dork. ............. At least Jeffree has good taste in music...sometimes.
@@Liz_in_the_OC people twist and interpret the actual meanings behind songs all the time to fit their own views/perspectives/experiences. For example, I often see atheists saying how they like certain religious songs and they just change the meaning of the song in their own minds into a generic love song towards their partner or whatever.
I’m 34 and didn’t know who Jefree Star was until last year, literally. I was on MySpace. But I was always a hippie in high school and listened to a lot of psychedelic music mostly. I had a lot of emo friends and did like some emo music. But it was mostly Pink Floyd, nature, herbal tea, environmentalism, and grandma skirts for me. I’m SOOOOO glad I never went “emo” and didn’t find out who Jafar is until recently. I’m so grateful to have skipped out on mental and spiritual poisoning 😂.
Yes. I think her voice and wardrobe as well as her decor is to draw in children. I find it insanely predatory and disgusting. I pretty much lost my shit when she wouldn’t stop doing the little mermaid on TikTok/instagram. She did it around the time the live action movie was coming out because “the little mermaid” was trending. So that would make her content pop up in children’s algorithms while she refused to age restrict. It is 1000% deliberate. I can’t tolerate predatory behavior. The way she was able to get around it for so long is absolutely baffling to me. Instagram has still done nothing.
@@JeanettePupko I completely agree. If Eugenia was a MAN in a room full of toys talking/dressing/acting like a teenager…who refused to age restrict and had TONS of children in his streams…would people still defend it and overlook it? Nevermind the ED even. If Eugenia was a man EVERYONE would be outraged. It’s insane to me that people don’t see it and are so desensitized.
There are loads of 30 and 40 yr olds that wear cartoon tshirts. Kids don't have a monopoly on kid things. It just depends on someones style and taste. Not all adults wear bland, plain or sophisticated clothing.
I legit think Eugenia is very sick or hospitalised. I don't think she's ignoring people, I think she's on the brink of physically breaking down and the stress of age restriction may have resulted in a heart attack or similar. Fingers crossed she recovers but that requires changing.
Im just glad that i dont have to look at a woman who body checks and promotes being skinny...i hope we never have to see her again.. but thats my personal opinion...the age restrictions should of been done ages a go because young lives can be saved now..being that thin is not a fashion statement.. its a death sentence... so i totally hope she never comes back...but i do hope she gets help..and maybe come back to say sorry and try and redeem herself and help kids not to do what she did...
There's no side to take; the entire industry is a pdf file. I was getting out the snack bacon like we were going down the Jaguar Wright wormhole 😮 I'm really enjoying the EC silence/other character exploration, Jordy.
Yup rich in general. They have done everything they wanted to in life so they start looking for DISTURBING, SICK, CRUEL things to do... a very, very, very rich man told my boyfriend this one night. if I said word for word what he said my comment would be removed so that is the gist of it. Sick.
Dhavie Vanity has s-e-x-u-a-lly a s s a u l t e d untold amount of young girls + Jeffrey not only was aware & said he witnessed 13 year old girls being taken on the tour bus but he then backtracked when the opportunity to tour with Dhavie came up again because he wanted the money. The timeline of events, police inquiries, etc, is all documented.
Sidenote, I was devastated to learn that Biggie Smalls rapped about date- graping an 8 year old Raven Symone. I listed to the song hundreds of times and somehow that lyric never registered. That was shocking and disappointing to me. The Jeffree stuff is not even remotely shocking, he's sick.
I suspect that Eugenia has a legal team working on this and they have made it clear to keep her mouth shut. Based on her ED and all of the complaints having to do with that, and that there was a definite concern that she was a bad/poor influence on the children that watch her, I'm assuming that her being age restricted has something to do with that. I can see her lawyers seeing this as an perfect ADA discrimination claim. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
At the very least. But quite possibly the main person in charge of her SM presence is just a regular ole person whose advice she always takes, and no, I don't mean J⭐...hmmm who might that be, if it's true!? 🤔🧐😬🙄🥴
@@GemmiRisenobody actually Knows what goes on in that household behind closed doors. For all we know , deb has tried to get her all the help in the world. Add ticks and "malnourished" Are professional liars, manipulators, take advantage of and threaten the ones who love them. Of course even if i'm wrong here, She is still enabling her But nobody knows the real reason why that is. Maybe the threats like things. Oh, I'm not gonna talk you ever again or I'll just go off myself, if you loved me you would/wouldn't do this/that. Not one person has any clue on what happens behind the scenes. I'm not saying I'm right or this IS whats going on. I'm just throwing another option that could potentially be the truth. Euginia is a liar and a very fake person online. Also If Deb was a horrible, abusive, crazy, monster... Don't you think after *all* these years???? She would have made a video speaking out to defend herself???? Having cops come to her house and constantly be accused of horrific things online by *everyone*.. . I would definitely speak out whether my child liked it or not.. eventually!!!! My old best friend was a malnourished person And the way she treated her parents and got them to do exactly what she wanted At anytime she wanted was absolutely crazy. I on the other hand was an add ticks For many years. Research has said that Ee, Dee's Apparently Share similar traits with add ticks. Such as meaning ... having control, manipulation, etc To get what they want Out of a loved one. Their loved one loves them so much that They enable the person without even really realizing it. I'm not saying I'm right at all but I'm throwing another perspective out there From things that I have done and seen with people very close to me. I have no idea just like everyone else has no idea. (Sorry for all the edits)
Weird how she doesn't mind, maybe even thrives, on all the negative attention on her lives but if someone uses her content to talk about her she has a problem with it.
Thanks Jordy! I working my way backwards cuz I just found you a couple months ago. I akao love listening on my way to work or cleaning & getting ready. ❤
They are tired of being called out for all the bizarre bullish-t that they put out there. What they don’t consider is that you reap what you sow. All of the commentary videos, just increases exposure to their streams. Eugenia is getting all kinds of attention and she isn’t even streaming. She is influencing young viewers with her childish garb and actions. Goes to show what you put out there good or bad, will come back on you. Be careful what you ask for you just might get it, Jeffree and Eugenia. Time for Jeffree Starr to be age restricted, I think his content is far more toxic than Eugenia’s.
I have often wondered how Mr ⭐ gets away with the language and verbal abuse he throws around. Maybe he's next ...? You know what they say The bigger they are the harder they fall I hope TT has him in their cross hairs. As for it being more toxic. That's a tough one. Let's just say he's equally as bad for different reasons. Either way they both should be shut down.
I strongly suggest people be very careful about morals, character and reputation at all times. The jail's are peppered with innocent people because of popular opinion. A teacher was accused of wrong by two students who were angry and wanted to punish him so lied. It destroyed his life and him. Despite the fact that everything was dropped and they owned up to setting it up to punish him. The damage is permanent. Signed Gina M.
I think she might be embarrassed to face the viewers because she found out she is not the end all, be all creator. All the times TT took her down for reports and then brought her back up gave her a sense of being indestructible. Look at how many of her posts were reported and very few came back with violations found. Being a large cash account for TT fed into her invincibility mindset. 30:38
Seriously though, has Eugenia ever really shown her "fans" respect or affection? Is anyone really surprised she just left without a word. I am not.
Def not tryna play devil's advocate, nor am I taking her side or making excuses for her $#!++y behavior (I honestly can't stand it), BUT I believe the likelihood is pretty big that she's actually not in overall control of her SM presence/content. I've always thought it's the most likely case. Do w/ that what you will. 😉
@@GemmiRiseeh, most add ticks and malnourished are actually in control because they take advantage, manipulate, and threaten those that love them.
Yeah actually she did ever really shown her fans respect or affection lol
@ampthemilk that's one possibility, but it's been long enough I'm starting to suspect she had a medical scare
yes she mentioned my name it really sounded she was happy and appreciative to my heart about me commenting
I just noticed on TikTok they added a “unhealthy body image/disordered eating” option when reporting BECAUSE of her .. that was not there a couple weeks ago and now she’s age restricted and that’s been added .. they def gave her a good talking too lol that’s why JS said they “did her dirty”
I don’t have tic tok so thank you for sharing this. Very interesting. A step in cleaning the platform up. We will see if they enforce it.😊🤷🏻♀️
Wow!
Nobody is missing anything except a pathetic 30-year-old woman, begging and panhandling for hours after hours to young influential children she’s 30 years old and needs validation from teenagers. Her ED is definitely a mental illness. She needs to get help and stay off of social media.
Is TT an app where you can just enter your age when prompted so it would be very easy to get around? I don't watch TT.
Wow! This makes me think her age restriction is permanent, thank God! Bye bye Ewgenia, no one will miss you. Wonder how you'll recover from this one!
Im a woman with big feet. Would much rather be a big foot than have a pdf file husband. Honestly, "there aint no side."
I have big feet too. My boyfriend always says I can stomp out Forrest fires. 🤣
Edit - put the wrong emoji lol
THANK YOU! I'll take my size 10.5's over that foolishness any day 😂
@@LOVEEEVEEY lol love that. My husband jokes about how, as long as I'm standing both feet on the floor, it must be impossible for anyone to push me over.
Idk you don't have to have a husband lmao I don't want wither win win situation 🤣🤣
Siding with someone just because you know them is a huge red flag. Nicki is obviously wrong in the situation and Jeffree needs to think for himself 🙌
Lol he’s the sheep not the wolf 🐺
I knew before he even said it that he would take Niki’s side. He’s a creep apologist who is also a creep himself
@@dumplingdisaster9860I mean creeps gotta stick together how else will they thrive that and both Jeffree and Nicki's husband can't go within range of a School zone
I think both are in the wrong. Nikki for dating a offender and Megan for making a whole song about someone else's partner and who they choose to date. That is not really her business and will open a whole can of worms. Wether she agrees or disagrees with who she dates. But it's good for publicity. Anything with drama sells.so from a sales point of view, it is smart. But not very nice. Even if Nikki's dating an offender and we don't agree with her choice in men. But it is what it is. I don't listen to either of their music so I'm staying mutual on it. (Edit: my bad I didn't know it was one line in the song. But it was clearly about her husband with a law about SA. However, she should have just minded her business if she didn't want extra drama. However, for marketing, I can understand her stance. And she is more famous then she ever was previously because of this )
@@butterflychild2797couldn't have said it better myself.
About the voice....it's a side effect of her disorder. The muscles aren't strong enough to control the vocal cords, plus hormonal issues related to the chronic manultrition play a factor as well.
I'm on the fence about whether she plays up the innocence voice. Honestly what I speculate we were seeing with some of voice changes was more a physical reaction to chat depending on the topic at hand.
It's very high pitched when she's blabbering on about nothing of substance, filling time not thinking deep, her brain seems almost turned off you know, just existing ....
Then when something gets under her skin, you see a physical reaction in her with the voice included as well. I think when people say "oh she slipped and used her real voice" , it's actually " her using what little muscles are left whether she's worked up about this or that. Suddenly she's animated and engaged and trying to think and communicate....which physically causes what we hear as her "deep voice*
I love that we heard her say “ go ahead and report me, I’ll always get it back!” Pure arrogance! Laws are changing slowly about kids and the internet and I feel like Tik Tok did a pivot before they ended up in a big mess.🤷🏻♀️
Yeah they're already in a big mess, right after New Year's a group of 5000 parents filed a class action lawsuit against tiktok. They're being sued for exposing their kids to content that promotes self-harm including body dysmorphia and ana. Eugenia's profile was age-restricted a couple days after the lawsuit was filed, if I were a betting woman I'd put all my money on the 2 being related especially considering how often she gets reported.
Karmaaaa lmao
Pinky😂😂😂😢😢🎉🎉what?😊
😆I like how you just bust out a stufft pretzel at the beginning hilarious dude
That made me bust out laughing 😂😂
Priscilla Pretzley😂
Nicki just assumed that Meg was talking about her and then went delulu on instagram live,, Meg never named any names🙄 and jeffree is a clown for being a sheep🤣
She hit a nerve. 😂 it’s hilarious
She made fun of p&dos, it's says a lot that Nicki got mad over that 😂
Only people who are guilty will assume when it comes to lyrics. Nicki obviously has some kind of guilt if she jumped on Megan without even being named
@@unfocusedanxiety she mad bc her man a pedo and her brother is a child rapist,, Nicki mad tacky,, I used to be a barb but affer the whole meg thing nah fuck nicki,, besides I’ve been a die hard Megan Hottie the last 3 years than Nicki a fan periodt
Jeffree is just James Charles on a yak farm😂
Elmo is age restricted and he was able to battle and receive gifts. She’s delusional and I’m not even trying to be mean. I just genuinely think she thinks it’s an insult to age restrict herself because “she’s not doing anything wrong”
i think Elmo is one of those people who selected the 18+ option, not getting slapped with age restriction
She never does anything wrong and she will never become accountable.
Elmo is hilarious
I read the rules from tik tok and it says you can’t. Also she can’t battle with her man
@@laurad324jack skellington or Jeffree?
I don’t think her absence has anything to do with money… it’s the fact that someone, anyone, had the audacity to tell her no and actually enforce it. She has ALWAYS gotten her own way, right down to her mother giving in when she, a literal baby at the time, refused to sleep safely in her crib. Think about it… she. Was obsessed with Bratz dolls so she got EVERY Bratz doll available; she loved the Jonas Brothers and wanted to go to all their concerts, her parents made that happen; she alleges she was bullied in school (which I do not buy for one second) and decided she wasn’t going back and her parents pulled her out and “homeschooled” her; she has a literal team of lawyers who’s only interest is preserving what Eugenia wants. This is an extraordinarily entitled woman, the likes of which we seldom see. She has NEVER been told no and not been able to tantrum her way in to getting what she wants. Back to her school days, her “bullies”, I would be willing to bet, were kids who didn’t do what she wanted and teachers who told her what to do when she didn’t want to do something (eg “I want to site here” -> teacher says no that’s someone else’s seat -> tantrum ensues -> teacher is a bully!). It’s not at all unlike the way she spins anyone opposing her delusion into being a “hater” or a “bully”.
I don’t think we fully appreciate the exactly how catered to this brat has been her ENTIRE life. Spoiled is an understatement! Her sickeningly sweet persona is extremely well crafted to hide that.
I read an interesting thing recently that kind of scraped together all of Eugenia's interviews and stuff and it sounds like the "bullying" was other girls making fun of her clothes and makeup starting somewhere between age 6-10 which makes me wonder, why was she wearing makeup that young? She also alleged that other girls would lift up their shirts and say they were skinnier than she was. So it sounds like fairly normal stuff except that Eugenia was wearing makeup from a really young age. She also said that she switched schools multiple times and it kept happening. It's all very very odd. So yes, I agree with you, including to the point that she was allowed to wear makeup and more adult clothing from a very young age. And also there were some pictures of Deb taking rather provocative photos of a 17 year old Eugenia and it's all very weird.
You have expressed what I've been observing and thinking for some time.
The keyholder in this entire saga is w/out a doubt Deb. Mpo I know as much as anybody else.
I've stated this very opinion and of course people came out in numbers telling me Iam wrong but those are all facts we KNOW about Eugenia.
Shes dangerous not awesome,kind and positive...toxic and naive but the whole naive part is to feed her ego/persona.Shes ALWAYS been the victim and doesn't want to change that either.Its just sad...
She was a literal baby who happened to be active and had sleep difficulties. That's no excuse to strap her in a car seat so you don't have to deal with her 😂 What an insane thing to say... She didn't "want" to be in the car seat either, she just couldn't get out. Deb didn't let her do whatever she wanted - Jaclyn had a lot to say about how controlling she was...
I think the companies with a live streaming option are becoming fully aware she is a liability. Eugenia can deny it until the cows come home but everyone, including social media staff know her heath is failing.
They already come under fire for allowing her on their platform in general, but what about if something were to happen to her when she's live? Her health is at the state where she could have a serious emergency live on air, from a business and reputation standpoint that would be catastrophic for the platform and exceptionally damaging as the news will go to mainstream media, not just within the smaller circle of within the social media platforms.
Completely agree with you!
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Absolutely. No service wants her passing away mid-livestream on their website/app
You're completely right! Could you imagine any company openly employing someone who could drop dead any second? A receptionist, salesperson, cashier, Uber driver - w/e!? I think the fact that children would be allowed to witness something so tragic would put TT in dire legal jeopardy, as well, esp w/o the age restriction! If my child saw someone starving to death who then died right during a live stream, on camera, I'd be fuming mad! It'd probably take awhile for someone to contact Deb, too, & for her to go turn off the camera! Ppl would have to see her reaction to discovering her daughter dead, too! Who knows how she'd react, bc she's complicit, IMO, & the world WILL vilify her once EC passes, regardless if it's during a live. I wonder if EC or Deb have considered that? I bet their lawyers sure have, & if they haven't, they should!
i think you’ve nailed it
Im 26 years old and I love all Sanrio, collect dolls, plushies. Anything I consider adorable. The difference between me and Eugenia is that well I don't condone pdfiles , I don't flash my audiences who are mainly children/teens, and try act like a little girl. That's just me. You can like Powerpuff girls but with her history it's sus.
You also are self aware enough to know it's a hobby to collect items you enjoy.
Something she doesn't or cannot distinguish the difference. To keep herself in balance.
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Same here, you can like anything you want but when it comes down to how you treat people and spit on others is crazy.She literally can't do anything for herself besides log into an app.She can't do laundry, she can't even plant a flower, bake a cookie, make a sandwich lol...she literally lives in a world that solely revolves around her and anyone who doesn't agree with those vibes then they are a hater, a nobody..As someone who suffered for over a decade with ED and had to fight and build a new relationship with food, all I wanted to do was support this human but she creates the drama,she loves the attention and she clearly has become so selfish and could even care less of her fans.They send her 100s and if they say anything she doesn't like even if it's supportive towards getting help,she will block them.Just like Jeffree this people are just money signs, they don't even have names to them and are extremely replaceable as long as they follow the rules of acceptance of any bullsht
@@zelda4lifeschramm your comment says it all
@@prinsesopdeerwt1 I just refuse to sympathize with her.
She's lost it and thinks Jeffree star "cares" about her as a best friend too.Wake up Eugenia....
At 4:30 LOL the way jeffrey stuttered and said "since 2000 and....9" cause he knew whatd happen if he said 2008 😂😂😂😂
I noticed that too 😂😂 I was like oh hell no he is not about to say 2008 bahahahah
Awww!!! Hi, Jeff! 😂 Everyone wave!! 😊
Jeffery and Nicki best friends since 2009 😅
What happened in 2008?
@@cazmarshall1331 JS claims him and Eugenia have been bffs since 2008.. that wouldve made him 23 and her 14 😂
Warped tour introduced so many creeps to young kids. It’s staggering the amount of creeps have been exposed that have been associated with that tour. Adding to include that Austin Jones, a convicted PDF, was enabled by manager Bryan Stars, who also managed EC at the time and added EC into their collab group MDE. Interesting how all roads lead back to warped
but....wasnt it great? I bought my first paraphanelia at warped lol and was given free condoms at 15. My friend was denied free condoms because " she didnt need them for lesbian sex" lol what? who said she was a lesbian? Why did I wear a free hug shirt and hug old men all day? why did I purposefully share sweat with people in the ETF mosh pit? SHIT why did I wait 4 hr to meet Jeffree Star back in his "vinyl black stilettos and fake eyelashes. Blue eye shadow, everything perfectly matches....." phase. (yes there are pictures LOL he was such a hot mess back then)... I honestly miss warped. It was beautifully f*cked up. It was ours. The vibes were immaculate even if it was highly problematic. Tell me you ever stopped having fun day of warped except maybe the end of the last set. It was a highlight of our generation.
I sure don't miss the hourse and pony show. Don't wish her back
@@annelisecochran9291 I mean as a teen who also worked at many dates of warped for different bands/ clothing booths/ was doing interviews and show photography, no. I’m grateful for the experience and fun I had, but holy fuck I was NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. What the fuck was I doing as a literal teenaged child on these tour bus with grown men. There were so many drugs and alcohol even though most of these bands played like they were straight edge. The amount of grown men trying to push boundaries with someone who was there in what was trying to be a professional capacity and not a fan capacity makes me look back with so much anger. Especially knowing how many of these fans were taken advantage of. There were so many shady situations that I am so glad I ended up alive from. And don’t get me started on Kevin. So no, I don’t think of those as “the glory days” especially when there were so many other tours and festivals back then.
I always felt like I missed out as a kid now I’m like eh maybe it was ok I never got to go
@@Poopiepieswow I haven’t heard the term “straight edge” in the longest .. def takes me back
Thank you for exposing more of jefrees despicable behaviour!!!
@@LucyStormbringerLastic not everyone has taken a deep dive into his shenanigans so Jordys coverage is handy to some of us! 👍
He is a drama vulture and somehow he has made a pretty long lasting career out of it. I’m shocked he never had a trashy reality dating show, at this point.
Just wanted to let everyone know she filed taxes on the Jan 20th and she was the signer and person filing. How do I know this? CT has public records. (Edit: so at least on the 20th she was alive and well enough to do taxes) (and yes it's legit it listed her name, address, business and it's on a .gov website)
I love looking up stuff like that! That’s how I found out my old boss hadn’t paid taxes in 5 years and lost his LLC as forfeiture 🤭
Why would anyone file on January 20? People don’t even have all their forms yet
@pandacat66 it's not impossible. Jan 30th is technically the deadline to send out tax forms to taxpayers. I've filed taxes before Jan 30 several times with no issue. I'd think EC taxes would be more complicated, but 💁🏽♀️ maybe not?
@pandacat66 I know people that file Jan 2 because if they don't it won't happen
@@Liz_in_the_OCI have zero doubt that she has an in-house accountant who can work magic most people arent even aware of.
My mother's an accountant and she has already started filing for her B&B. When you are your own boss you don't have to wait for the paperwork to be released.
Jordy have you seen Herbs and Alters newest upload? They’re FINALLY saying what everyone knows about Eugenia and her influence! That is HUGE!
No one ever sticks with “this will be the last one” with the videos, huh.
I can’t take Jeffrey serious in a pink robe with bacon in hand… 😂
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I couldn't take him seriously in a 3 piece suit, honestly.
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Burnt bacon at that lmao
Morning Jordy 🫶 The phrase Birds of a feather comes to mind. Disgusting!
This just proves she knew exactly what she was doing. Everytime she said "I don't do this for money", she lied. I'm glad the audience has won. I hope she will focus on her self and her help but she won't. I think the reason she acts like a child is from nostalgia before her trauma. She doesn't have irl friends so she's completely out of touch. Love ya jordy
Came to say exactly this. She said repeatedly it wasn’t about money, but she would be there either way if it wasn’t.
@PurpleViolettes absolutely. She would of done a live stream for the fans if it had ANYTHING to do with the fans. Money was the motive always. 💯
Her parents are filthy rich though. She's never been told no her entire life
@Nevaeh672 I think that's why she is throwing a fit by not coming on tiktok. Someone put there foot down finally and she doesn't know how to handle it. I think you have a good take
With regard to the childlike voice and style - we know that she used to move heavy objects around her room, because she knew that she’d get donations from a “certain type” of audience.
I wonder if she sees that she gets more attention, affection, donations and likes if she puts on the “little girl” style voice. It appeals to those type of people who want to “mother” people who are struggling, and also to that other “certain type” of audience.
I imagine she knows she can get out of difficult conversations and get her own way by acting childlike, possibly a tactic she learned growing up?
I also read a few folks mentioning it being a potential trauma response too, which could definitely be a possibility
Jordy be popping context left and right. It's hard to keep up but loving it! I do wanna say though I 100% think that it's fine to wear what you like/love as long as it's publicly appropriate. My grandma loves wearing betty boop to the core cause it brings her joy and my 25 year old sister likes wearing Hello Kitty not hardcore but enough to at least notice.
I agree. I'm 60 and wear Yes We Vibe boots, and lots of Betsy Johnson stuff. It's just me. I'd feel strange wearing conservative clothes. I like Eugenia's style, but that's as far as it goes with her. I once thought she was sweet, but I've seen her act condescending to her fans many times.
I think maybe she would be in a different boat but I dont believe that Eugenia would have ever age ristricted herself because in her mind she truly thought she was covering her tracks enough by saying shes not telling anyone to do anything. However the truth is that I believe she crossed the line the second she started making "workout videos" telling people they can achieve her weight and phycique by working out and doing the obvious thing shes doing...her videos were already risky because they were clearly about shock value but now, shes taken it a step further by actively influencing people to look like her and poking the bear (tiktok) saying that if she was really doing something wrong they would stop her...welp they did and now she cant handle it at all.
As for rhe platform, she never cares about her audience, she knows most of her viewers are fetishist and enablers or people who have fallen victim to the same dissorder. The other percentage are haters in her eyes where she groups the people concerned with the trolls together. Given she clearly doesnt care about her own well being I doubt shed batt an eye for her fan base...like twitch, those subscribers got an "oh well im on tiktok now" 🤷♀️
Yup attention and money from those with the same problem OR the fet fishers that get off watching malnourished people struggle doing basic tasks. Plus attention is attention. Whether its good or badm also You can tell how stupid and naive she acts now days compared to the past. A perfect example is the gardening video. She has one from the past where she wasn't afraid of dirt, got dirty, knew exactly what to do, didn't play dumb. Now the last one was the complete opposite and so fake. Everything she does is fake, a whole act for them sickos!!! They are almost always pd files also! (Malnourished, similar to small body of child. I mean not really but kind of if you get what I am saying) she's always defended sicko! (Edit added a sentence)
I wouldn't be surprised if her dad bought tiktok. I want to see just how powerful they are.
@@cavsomecadence6117 their house is worth almost 3 million dollars if that says anything. I googled it
@@cavsomecadence6117 omg jordy and his mods are getting a little ridiculous on deleting comments
Eugenia leaving her audience in the dark isn’t anything new for her.
When she decided to leave twitch all together, we had absolutely no warning.
The week or two prior, she went to Disney for 3 weeks, meaning- she didn’t stream that entire time. Once she finally came back, the month had already ended, and those who paid for subscriptions and GIFTED subs basically wasted that money for the month.
When she finally streamed again, we assumed she’d be back to regular schedule, but nope! I’d say about 2 or 3 weeks later, she left twitch entirely- no warning or goodbye, no thank you, no lead-up, no explanation, no apology…. NOTHING. And yet again, people wasted their money for the month (if not multiple months- I’m not too sure how longer subs work tbh).
*NO refunds.*
Basically any time she was asked about this on TikTok, she got at least vaguely defensive, and then gradually more outright about it (this was when she began saying she didn’t even like gaming).
She does not and never has cared about her supporters. She has and always will leave “us” in the dark, and will only return and (if we’re lucky) provide a half-@$$3d apology when and if it benefits her.
Keep in mind- she’s left us in the dark from day one. It’s exactly why she doesn’t talk about anything substantially medical- it does not benefit her to. This is who she is.
Jorddyyyy hearing you say you think about us when you don’t upload made me teary eyed🥹 you’re a gem and your content is timeless. Don’t play with ittt💅
I can think of so many things to do with 100 million dollars. Being almost 40 and raging live on TikTok in my pink bath robe is not one of them.
You could just move to Wyoming, however. We're attracting some interesting people. First Kanye (not unhappy that didn't work out as our property backed into his) but when he was on his meds he was pretty cool. Now Jeffrey's in Casper and I believe Ivan Moody from FFDP has a house here as well. I think he's in Cheyenne.
I think there is more going on with Eugenia. She depends on the internet and followers not only monetarily, but socially. Her being MIA this long is suspicious to me. Entertaining the speculation that her absence is due to the age restriction makes complete sense. Her dressing style is targeting the younger demographic. Her lack of clothing targets another demographic. Eugenia’s mannerisms and behavior is crafted to make as much money as she can.
I find it funny her “friends” aren’t doing more in solidarity for how TT “wronged” Eugenia. I mean if my close dear friend was done dirty, I would be part of their united front to make things right. J ⭐ and friends don’t GAF. For as long as Eugenia’s absence continues is more money in their pockets.
Well she did just file taxes on Jan 20th. She was the signer. At least in WI you cannot do taxes personally from a facility like she would be in. Someone on the outs has to do it for you which would mean she wouldn't have signed off on them. CT had public records. I think she is just age restricted, banned from going live, mad, and maybe her legal team told her to stay off the internet until they get this figured out for her.
For fun's sake- what if all those variables actually weren't (completely) her idea to begin w/? What if it's been somebody else titling her vids, choosing randomly strange short vid locales, maybe even outfit choices? What if? I've thought about this possibility a lot, and being honest, makes sense of SO much that currently makes none. I'm just saying- what if!?
Interesting thought about her " friends" not being more vocal about the injustice that's happening to their dear friend.
She's obviously served her purpose and he's left to out to dry.
I knew it wouldn't be pretty when their relationship ended.
She's probably devastated by exactly what you said. I will even go as far as her asking for him to stand in solidarity with her.
I'm sure he laughed in her face.
I can't help but think Mr ⭐ is behind all the banning that was happening over the past few months and possibly the current isssue of the age restriction.
He wants to monopolize. Destroy and conquer!
@@ajordan1976 it's still completely possible they've been asked or even told not to speak about anything besides screaming ish like "Eugenia's in the chat, y'all!"? ijs
Also, just feel the need to add that in terms of money generated online EC depends on view count, not 'live' gifts or the like. she literally made roughly 1/2 milly from views on just the 1st few rows of vids on her TT profile.
Is it possible to contact RUclips’s legal department for more information? Just have them explain the process in order to be a “better content creator?” I’m curious what the legal grounds for this are.
Jeffree jumping onto the latest drama? To get attention??
I would have never guessed!
Not even being a hater I would probably consider doing it too if I were in that scene but xD
Lol bingo
That was my thought when Jordy was like ‘what do these to women have to do with Jeffree Star?’ I thought ‘nothing, but he’s like a drama vulture so here he comes.’ He has tons of opinions and no real causes, other than getting in the middle of it.
I thought Eugenia maybe just got so weak she couldn't perform, visit, put on makeup, twitch, etc.....she may be very ill and bedridden.
If two rappers are 'beefing,' would it be accurate to say they are 'yakking'?
This is going to be a sick new way for horrible people to hide their past and stop smaller creators...hopefully you can find a loop hole through fair use, very unfortunate because youre not just slamming and exposing them, this community also has conversations about really important subjects 😔
There will be loopholes eventually. Fair use is a law for a reason
There's a loophole to everything in life. Except prison, jail, a ward, and some diseases. Well, if you don't have money then those 4 apply.
Never pompous as someone who loves to silently listen from afar. It’s fun to listen to what you have to say. All I can say is do you and keep your physical and mental health up, breaks are necessary so thank you and keep doing what you enjoy.
the rebecca black stuff is so creepy… thanks for bringing attention to it. I’ll never understand the appeal of jeffree… love you jordy keep doin the work, always a fan 💛
WOW that lyric was 🤯 thank you for digging that up. Extremely concerning.
Omg an upload for me to watch while I get ready for work!!! Love ya!😊
Same omg
Where there’s yak hair embedded in makeup, there’s Jeffree
😂😂😂😂
Figures he’s on Nikki’s side.
Jeffree Star and Nikki did a song together called Lollipop Luxury and it's so atrocious!
@@Fire-Rabbit87 They are both pigs.
I think we should let Euginia go. So many more interesting people out there. We've been fighting to get her away from kids and shes gone. Lets keep her irrelevant.
@@LucyStormbringerLasticthat’s not true though.. this was founded on Gorl World. EC as well as J⭐️ are side characters to that tradition. 🤷♀️ Were here for Jordy at the end of the day anyways, his reactions are campy and almost like a slumber party especially during night livestreams 😊
@@kyliestockholm8290I love the slumber party comparison.
@@LucyStormbringerLasticI might have come for Eugenia but I'm staying for Jordy. 😂
@@LucyStormbringerLasticJordy covered Gorlworld and Amber Lynn waaay before EC. She just happened to be a person of public interest and he has a react channel.
He won't he's making to much money talking about her. Dude goes live suddenly almost every day out of no where. She's only staying relevant because of the coverage other people do for her. She could be gone for a year and he'll still be making throw back videos on her.
I had a terrible night last night, having a Jordy video to get up amd start the day on no sleep helped me feel a little more normal. Love to start the day with some scathing Jordy commentary!
Hope you’re doing better today
@pandacat66 that's kind of you, I feel much better now thanks.
Doesn't surprise me at all that Jeffrey is taking the side of a person involving an offender
Worrying.
Finally a Jordy video I can watch 💃 the live streams are absolutely mind numbing… Did Meghan feel this way when she had Nicki and her husband in the hot girl summer video??? Get Up On Ya Good Foot 🦶🤣🤣🤣
I agree! I can't do the live streams. I missed this!
@@Estelle_Brite Same here. These types of videos are more stimulating.
I love the stuffed pretzels name❤️
😂😂
yea thats disgusting... talking about a child that way.
Good morning Jordy and party people!
Goooooodmoooorning Vietnam
I just can’t see her willingly be away from social media this long. Something is def going on
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OMG I would need to rent a convention center for all of us and cater breakfast, lunch and dinner in order to fully discuss my thoughts on all of these topics. Imagine having this much money just to sit at home all day, e-beg and ignore/ insult all of your fans 🤡. Also, we love and appreciate you Jordy 🤍🤍🤍
Ty so much (not) CHRISTINAAA!! :D
Eugenia knows very well she is feeding people her childish and pro-ana-fetish-stuff. From flashing to acting a certain way. She been making big money out of it for a long time, its what sells best and she cant do anything else. In my opinion this is why she refuse help, refusing to give up that part of income.
25:39 she is 100% purposely changing her voice. In the beginning, her voice (to me) was natural. Then, as her Ed took a bigger, harder, grasp on her life, her whole self started to change. Her voice got higher. Makes me think that this is her other personality, the one who isn't sick, the one who's 'famous' on social media. She dresses like a child, does her hair like a child, so of course, her voice has to go & match it. Her Ed has taken so much of her ability to remember, and to speak in full sentences, not just filler words, like ya, um, so anyway, super super cute, rambling on about what she is wearing when we can see the shirts pink with a power puff girl, we can see fluffy sleeves, or stripes.
I'm shocked JS hasn't made a 2 seconds. "Eugenias fine everybody, she doesn't need to explain herself to any of you bitches" video, just to let her page followers know she's alive. Honestly, every time she disappears, my first thought is in the er,or had a heart attack, and passed. But I know sjes made because she was age restricted and her lawyers are I'm sure, working over time to figure out how to get her back to where she was, with no changes
Eugenia gets attention whether she's on the internet or not. Her absence even gets attention
Exactly! Imagine the view click count she'll inevitably get the day she returns!? Might break the interwebs. Lololol 🤣
I think it's mostly because people are always on "death watch" regarding EC.
@@pandaw2727absolutely no other reason
@@pandaw2727 for sure! as sad as it is, we just CAN'T. STOP. WATCHING.
But it isn't getting her money!!!
Things that make you go, DafuQ~
Chef Jeffrey specialty menu- Appetizer:Bacon -Main Course: Bacon wrapped bacon-Dessert zebra Cake with a Strawberry Popsicle sidecar
In their battle last night he ate literally 4 ice cream sandwiches.
Oh my god Jordy she is blocking you. How childish and she must be so intimidated by you. It's because what you do is so important and I feel that this will be studied my many in the future.
Wtf is with her riding that unicorn in the thumbnail. The pretzel speaks for itself lol, anyone that's been around long enough definitely understands the pretzel.
best friends since 2009 lol
Wonder if she knows he's on video calling a black woman a N?
Meghan wasn't "alledging" anything. Nicki really married and had a child with a CONVICTED sex offender. Is he not on house arrest right now for failing to register as a sex offender? 😭 who sides with this? it's wild
Don’t forget her brother is doing 25 years for grapeing an 11yr old, and she wrote to the judge for leniency but it failed, yuck
I am 44. I developed an ed in 5th grade and started struggling with bpd. I am perpetually stuck at a younger age. I am a functional adult. I work very hard. I run a house. But I have tattoos and piercings. My purse is a Michael Myers bloody knife purse. I know I probably look ridiculous. But I am who I am. Some of this is what’s going on with Eugenia I believe. But I also think she doesn’t want to grow up. And some of that is deliberate. I really think in her case it’s a mix.
I'm 60; I embrace my age and don't mind getting older one bit. I actually enjoy the peace that comes with it. However, that said, I just like young things. I wear lots of Betsy Johnson clothes; and Yes We Vibe boots. I keep getting tattoos also. And up until two years ago I had magenta hair. The vibe just goes with my upbeat personality. It's just how some people are. Though in Eugenia's case I'm sure you're right. In a weird way she reminds me of a much younger version of Angelyne the Billboard Queen in L.A. who always wears pink and has the pink car, and won't show people her face.
@@BeYounique...Maryanne You’re right. I remember her! And thank you for making me feel better. I also feel like I’m acting too young but it’s just who I am. Who I’m comfortable being.
@@marilynsgirl01 Glad you feel better. Don't ever worry about acting "too young." It's who you are, and the ones who appreciate it are your people. ❤
What’s weird is I literally feel relieved with Eugenia being gone.
I don’t think about her. I don’t care to ever see her on social media again. I don’t care to hear anything about her anymore.
I’m just relieved and glad to not see her anymore. 😂
Great video Jordy! Absolutely agree on all points and so happy to see you saying the quiet part out loud!!! 🗣
Its called Work Ethic, and I am very proud of you Jordy for always doing your best and thinking about your audience 😊❤
Eugenia has been very spoiled and able to get around any objections to her bs online for a very long time now. She’s probably just having herself a little temper tantrum, and will turn up somewhere sooner or later.
Bingo! Never been told no in her entire life and even daddy hasn't been able to buy her way out of this situation.
What if it was Debbie that pushed Eugenia to have all her YT videos copyrighted, so that whoever (Netflix or others) wants to release a documentary after the "end", will have to pay a shit ton of money?
I think EC and JS have been getting away with shenanigans for far too long. And they are about to have a rude awakening. I am here for it😂
Last night I dreamt I was attacked by Eugenia. Watching this to check it’s not true😂
Geez, that image just made my skin crawl. Can you imagine waking up to those teeth and cadaver coming at you? Jumpscare.
@@pandaw2727hahaha mean! Bad!!
@@AlexisDubChin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can hear it in Jordy's voice as I'm typing thus, lol.
All of you saying shes just acting like a child and there are adults that wear tshirts with cartoons on yeh i get it but which of you would wear skimpy santa lingerie with stockings and prance around a garden centre with the public watching in the middle of winter at 30 years old
Weighing around 65-70 lbs, no less.
I find it weird that she’s doing it AFTER losing the face fat .The ana f3tsh appeals to a lot of predators and she already does struggle k0rn ,flashing. I think it’s more of the latter rather than her actually being into the style .
I love Jordy’s laugh ❤
Thank you so much for such a meaty discussion.
Shes most upset about that money not coming in
Yes!! I love the lives but love the OG style videos too.
I prefer the videos over lives too 😊
jeffree star actually did do a song with nicki called lollipop luxury, and it was in 2009 lol
Regarding Jeffree saying grape me, he got that from Nirvana's song with the same title. I suppose it was "cool" for certain fans of Nirvana to use that as a response. We know he was a fan because he has a portrait of Kurt Cobain on his chest.
Just did some Googling and found this:
"In an episode of Tattoo Diaries, Star revealed many of Cobain's songs helped him 'grow as a person and soothed his soul.'"
OH, that's what he meant!! I thought "grape me" was another phrase for "tea bagging" ... LMAO, I'm such a dork. ............. At least Jeffree has good taste in music...sometimes.
@@BeYounique...Maryanne😂
Then he’s really dumb because that song was about the music industry screwing him
I remember the shock when the song Polly came out and was being played on the radio.
@@Liz_in_the_OC people twist and interpret the actual meanings behind songs all the time to fit their own views/perspectives/experiences. For example, I often see atheists saying how they like certain religious songs and they just change the meaning of the song in their own minds into a generic love song towards their partner or whatever.
I’m 34 and didn’t know who Jefree Star was until last year, literally. I was on MySpace. But I was always a hippie in high school and listened to a lot of psychedelic music mostly. I had a lot of emo friends and did like some emo music. But it was mostly Pink Floyd, nature, herbal tea, environmentalism, and grandma skirts for me. I’m SOOOOO glad I never went “emo” and didn’t find out who Jafar is until recently. I’m so grateful to have skipped out on mental and spiritual poisoning 😂.
Yes. I think her voice and wardrobe as well as her decor is to draw in children. I find it insanely predatory and disgusting.
I pretty much lost my shit when she wouldn’t stop doing the little mermaid on TikTok/instagram. She did it around the time the live action movie was coming out because “the little mermaid” was trending. So that would make her content pop up in children’s algorithms while she refused to age restrict.
It is 1000% deliberate.
I can’t tolerate predatory behavior.
The way she was able to get around it for so long is absolutely baffling to me. Instagram has still done nothing.
She is truly a monster. I would debate anyone on that statement. Ppl need to open their eyes and look past that fake, innocent act.
@@JeanettePupko I completely agree.
If Eugenia was a MAN in a room full of toys talking/dressing/acting like a teenager…who refused to age restrict and had TONS of children in his streams…would people still defend it and overlook it? Nevermind the ED even. If Eugenia was a man EVERYONE would be outraged.
It’s insane to me that people don’t see it and are so desensitized.
There are loads of 30 and 40 yr olds that wear cartoon tshirts. Kids don't have a monopoly on kid things. It just depends on someones style and taste. Not all adults wear bland, plain or sophisticated clothing.
I legit think Eugenia is very sick or hospitalised. I don't think she's ignoring people, I think she's on the brink of physically breaking down and the stress of age restriction may have resulted in a heart attack or similar. Fingers crossed she recovers but that requires changing.
I suspect aswell that she got so stressed out her heart couldnt handle that and there was an emergency 😢
Im just glad that i dont have to look at a woman who body checks and promotes being skinny...i hope we never have to see her again.. but thats my personal opinion...the age restrictions should of been done ages a go because young lives can be saved now..being that thin is not a fashion statement.. its a death sentence... so i totally hope she never comes back...but i do hope she gets help..and maybe come back to say sorry and try and redeem herself and help kids not to do what she did...
There's no side to take; the entire industry is a pdf file. I was getting out the snack bacon like we were going down the Jaguar Wright wormhole 😮
I'm really enjoying the EC silence/other character exploration, Jordy.
Yup rich in general. They have done everything they wanted to in life so they start looking for DISTURBING, SICK, CRUEL things to do... a very, very, very rich man told my boyfriend this one night. if I said word for word what he said my comment would be removed so that is the gist of it. Sick.
Exactly they are all disgusting
Yes..suprise everyone..Euginia isn't innocent..shes actually shallow and money is what influences every move that she makes..
Jeffree saying hes loyal, but the portrait it paints isn't great. He has also called james Charles evil, but he's the same
He just wants to get her face tattooed on him already 😢
Dhavie Vanity has s-e-x-u-a-lly
a s s a u l t e d untold amount of young girls + Jeffrey not only was aware & said he witnessed 13 year old girls being taken on the tour bus but he then backtracked when the opportunity to tour with Dhavie came up again because he wanted the money.
The timeline of events, police inquiries, etc, is all documented.
Then Jeffree bragged about having straight boys every night. Total creeps.
The little girl aesthetic is grotesque
Sidenote, I was devastated to learn that Biggie Smalls rapped about date- graping an 8 year old Raven Symone. I listed to the song hundreds of times and somehow that lyric never registered. That was shocking and disappointing to me. The Jeffree stuff is not even remotely shocking, he's sick.
When there’s winter magic, a blizzard’s a’comin.
I think Jordy's observations are pretty spot on.
Big feet😂 I laughed so hard. Thank you for summarizing what was going on with Nikki thing. I didn’t have an energy to look into it.
Theory : Eugenia would gleefully just hand over the rights to her videos if Jeffree asked for them. Maybe he is the one copyrighting all her stuff 🤔
I suspect that Eugenia has a legal team working on this and they have made it clear to keep her mouth shut. Based on her ED and all of the complaints having to do with that, and that there was a definite concern that she was a bad/poor influence on the children that watch her, I'm assuming that her being age restricted has something to do with that. I can see her lawyers seeing this as an perfect ADA discrimination claim. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Lol
At the very least. But quite possibly the main person in charge of her SM presence is just a regular ole person whose advice she always takes, and no, I don't mean J⭐...hmmm who might that be, if it's true!?
🤔🧐😬🙄🥴
I agree
@@GemmiRisenobody actually Knows what goes on in that household behind closed doors. For all we know , deb has tried to get her all the help in the world. Add ticks and "malnourished" Are professional liars, manipulators, take advantage of and threaten the ones who love them. Of course even if i'm wrong here, She is still enabling her But nobody knows the real reason why that is. Maybe the threats like things. Oh, I'm not gonna talk you ever again or I'll just go off myself, if you loved me you would/wouldn't do this/that. Not one person has any clue on what happens behind the scenes. I'm not saying I'm right or this IS whats going on. I'm just throwing another option that could potentially be the truth. Euginia is a liar and a very fake person online. Also If Deb was a horrible, abusive, crazy, monster... Don't you think after *all* these years???? She would have made a video speaking out to defend herself???? Having cops come to her house and constantly be accused of horrific things online by *everyone*.. . I would definitely speak out whether my child liked it or not.. eventually!!!! My old best friend was a malnourished person And the way she treated her parents and got them to do exactly what she wanted At anytime she wanted was absolutely crazy. I on the other hand was an add ticks For many years. Research has said that Ee, Dee's Apparently Share similar traits with add ticks. Such as meaning ... having control, manipulation, etc To get what they want Out of a loved one. Their loved one loves them so much that They enable the person without even really realizing it. I'm not saying I'm right at all but I'm throwing another perspective out there From things that I have done and seen with people very close to me. I have no idea just like everyone else has no idea. (Sorry for all the edits)
@@LOVEEEVEEY that's my point exactly. That's why I feel most ALL possibilities should/could be explored.
Not surprised he's on the PDF side. When I was 12 he was touring with PDFS
Edit: oops you address it XD
Good morning Jordy. Hope you have a great day.
A PDF-FILE? Wow, good one who ever thought that up. People are so creative. A PDF-FILE.
Weird how she doesn't mind, maybe even thrives, on all the negative attention on her lives but if someone uses her content to talk about her she has a problem with it.
Thanks Jordy! I working my way backwards cuz I just found you a couple months ago. I akao love listening on my way to work or cleaning & getting ready. ❤
"So long and thanks for all the fish!"
"Hyper Space Bypass!!" 🐬 🐬
😁
Time to grab your towels and run yall
Thanks for the morning video Jordy!
I’m very happy she’s not on TikTok and I hope she never comes back to it
not me reachin out to take your hand.. fml lmao
They are tired of being called out for all the bizarre bullish-t that they put out there. What they don’t consider is that you reap what you sow. All of the commentary videos, just increases exposure to their streams. Eugenia is getting all kinds of attention and she isn’t even streaming. She is influencing young viewers with her childish garb and actions. Goes to show what you put out there good or bad, will come back on you. Be careful what you ask for you just might get it, Jeffree and Eugenia. Time for Jeffree Starr to be age restricted, I think his content is far more toxic than Eugenia’s.
She is getting unpaid attention. So she either is ill or that PO’d she might be working on a legal battle with TT. Who knows 🤷
I have often wondered how Mr ⭐ gets away with the language and verbal abuse he throws around.
Maybe he's next ...?
You know what they say
The bigger they are the harder they fall
I hope TT has him in their cross hairs.
As for it being more toxic. That's a tough one.
Let's just say he's equally as bad for different reasons.
Either way they both should be shut down.
I strongly suggest people be very careful about morals, character and reputation at all times.
The jail's are peppered with innocent people because of popular opinion.
A teacher was accused of wrong by two students who were angry and wanted to punish him so lied.
It destroyed his life and him.
Despite the fact that everything was dropped and they owned up to setting it up to punish him.
The damage is permanent.
Signed Gina M.
People shocked that Jeffree is acting like this, he’s always been like this. He always chooses the unpopular opinion cause he’s an asshole
Exactly
I’m shocked people still think Eugenia actually cares about them… she only cares about what they do/give for her.
I think she might be embarrassed to face the viewers because she found out she is not the end all, be all creator. All the times TT took her down for reports and then brought her back up gave her a sense of being indestructible. Look at how many of her posts were reported and very few came back with violations found.
Being a large cash account for TT fed into her invincibility mindset. 30:38