She’s not interested in making content. She’s interested in finding an online echo chamber to tell her how awesome and kind she is and finding people to keep her codependent self company on demand with a live stream.
@@creatrixZBD the amount of effort she puts into making her content is non existent. She just reads chat and provides nothing of value to the conversation. She used to make content that at least had effort put into it. There’s a lot of other streamers that put effort and work into planning their streams or content creation.
i do see what you mean, especially in a prosocial relationship, but viewing relationships as transactional isnt really too great of a thing.. her fans get dopamine from voting. that im aware of, the whole premise was that the most voted person won, so it makes sense that shes repeating it on a live stream where people are popping in and out
I am in the 40s and i find you to be extremely honest and kind. You choose your words carefully and ppint out what others should . I appreciate your streams.
It is funny. Bc she will “do” Her makeup on stream But she’s not reviewing any products (everything is Jeffree and we know her thoughts on the makeup) nor does she ever tell people what she’s doing or trying different styles of makeup. It’s the same makeup just different colors and it’s not done super well. And fashion is off the table bc nothing fits her right bc she’s so thin and with her “goth” aesthetic is not what many in that genre would wear
She's a beautiful girl, or used to be, but her idea of fashion and beauty does nothing to accent her natural beauty or actually improve her appearance (the whole point of makeup and fashion). It just makes her more colorful. She's a caricature of herself.
Yeah when I heard Fashion and Beauty I was like HER!? Forget the weight. She can’t even put on lipstick right. Or realize jusg bc you got a box of Jefree’s makeup doesn’t mean you have to wear EVERY item….that blue lipstick. 😬
I would LOVE to interview her and ask her some basic life questions. Like "Do you know how to turn on a washing machine?" "How is your house heated"? "When being a home owner, what type of utility bills does one have to pay?" etc etc...........just normal adult responsibilities stuff...Would LOVE to hear her answers.
Yes! This! Didn't know Belgium is in Europe, what else does this woman NOT know? Ukraine, Israel? Real suffering is not on her radar, only her own. I watched a short vid where her viewers were taunting her to drink water and told her she looked like she had gained (trolling) weight. She was so upset. Esp about the weight gain. So triggered. It was upsetting and I didn't finish watching. I am here for Jordy.
I've heard there are major issues with the home schooling set up in America. Like it's not getting the type of attention it needs by institutions it should. I mean it's even been used as a way for people to physically abuse their children, so no one will see the abuse on the children. So it's not getting checked up on what your learning either. Really, eugenia got both to an extent. Someone would have been called to the school about the state of her physical health and she might have a clue about something. She can't even carry a conversation.
I can honestly say if she had won the beauty and fashion category i would have been deeply saddened at the state of the world, to push this girl forward as a ROLE MODEL
She’s gotten so friggin arrogant. “Yeah I’m on here making empty content, but I wanna be on tiktok”. She wants money for doing NOTHING. It’s nuts to me.
Jordy, even 20-30 years ago, I doubt EC would have been held up as a paragon of beauty and fashion. Thin is one thing. Emaciated is quite another. At no time in history would her appearance be looked upon as beautiful
Agreed! A factor here is her age as well. She might have worked some shoots through her twenties even dead thin, but she's lost that buffer of youth. Her skin and hair are going to shit, she can't walk and her motor control is gone. She looks exactly what she is: terribly, frighteningly ill
truth. she far surpassed any skinny goal, or extreme thin look any corporation of fashion industry designer ever got behind or supported. its beyond the ability to Survive without artificial support OR being able to just SIT AND BREATHE and do NOTHING else 24/7/ but all OTHER EDd women have jobs and school and theyre not millionairres with parents who encourage them to stay sick by allowing them to squat in their mansion in order to sit in a hot room staring at themselves, never getting up with an alarm to go ANYWHERE to accomplish ANYthing. other people are forced to live as adults,and that often helps them recover. because it becomes impossible to survive if you DONT eat and take care of your health
I’m honestly shocked that EC was even in first place at all, it’s scary to think how much reach her platform actually has. I refuse to give her my view so watching everything through Jordy, sometimes I forget the magnitude of TikTok. It’s terrifying… 😐
@sob prince, I agree 👍. I love Jordy's content, I just have such a hard time looking at EC. She came up in conversation yesterday. The three of us, being 68, 48, and 28 years of age, are disgusted and sadden by her mothers enabling. Of course, we didn't have a teenager's viewpoint. 🤔 EC is her child, not a cash cow.😢
@@barbedwire_lace2160I just wanted to make a slight correction. Eugenia was once a child, but she's now a 29 year old adult. It's a shame she lives in the conditions she lives in, with the enabling and it's obvious she is going through a lot. But she's no longer a child, she's an adult!
Eugenia should understand that she does not draw a crowd because she sits on her couch, putting on eye shadow from Jeffrey Star. She draws a crowd because she is Anorexic, looks sickly and close to death, and unfortunately, the public has a morbid curiosity about her. That's why she draws a crowd. You don't get millions of viewers being boring Eugenia, sitting on a couch, putting on ugly eye shadow. It just doesn't work that way. Eugenia has a love-hate relationship with the public and the public is morbidly curious about her, that's it. She's not super talented, she's not super interesting, she's actually quite boring when she's not trying to flash her underwear or show people her bones on purpose. I think you are correct Jordy, There is no way tiktok was going to let her represent their company as a whole.
@@Al00fit’s way beyond that. Eugenia’s build is so small next to others, including her head. I think she was an untreated failure to thrive syndrome child.
I can't deal with the people that keep excusing her mean and dangerous behaviour because she has a mental illness💀🤡 or keep saying that "she is not really 29 yrs old because of her trauma getting her brain stuck at a young age" so many other humans including myself have gone through rough trauma at a very young age but we keep learning, progressing, growing stronger because THAT IS OUR CHOICE
She takes ANY opportunity to shade Jaqelyn on being a bad friend. The question had absolutely nothing to do with that. It’s been 4 years. It’s so embarrassing.
I've lost all sort of sympathy for this girl. I've known ana girls who were in even worse condition than her, with no money nor family to help them and none of them was as toxic, greedy, fake, gaslighting and borderline racist as she is. Smiles and excuses can only last for so long.
Eugenia is the epitome of the "poor little rich girl". She's been wealthy all her life and doesn't know how to do anything because everything was done for her. The woman never wanted for anything. So, she is and has always been "better" than. She makes faces of disgust with refugees, laughs & makes fun of the man with the thick accent who works everyday at a hot dog stand. She's better than them. Right now, she's living her rich girl dream. Finally being seen for who she really is. Whatever Eugenia wanted Eugenia got. She is naturally mean, judgmental and one of those rich women who are super nice to your face but you know that they don't g.a.f about you.
To me it's like all kinds of disorders all in one person, including personality disorder. She strikes me as narcissistic and it's really showing since her obsession with JS, who shares similar, but worse narcissistic traits.
Totally agree, I cannot feel sorry for someone who hears the sad facts (like she will never have a child or marriage...or all the milestones in life that most girls look forward to) and responds with childish arrogance. She's gotten worse since she saddled up to JS, shame she doesn't realize that he's laughing at her more than he is laughing with her.
I'm a psych RN, and the best piece of advice I have is "Don't argue with insanity." However, I do enjoy watching your attempts to reorient her to reality and provide logical responses to her narrative. Her empty verbiage is longer than a dirt road, got me swervin' like I'm George Jones......
I so badly want to ask her: If you think your audience is as stupid as you act like they are, doesn’t that say way more about the type of people you attract than anyone else?
As someone who is older than Jordy and Eugenia it is amazing at the difference in apparent maturity. One is well spoken, concise and earnest. The other one is a self-obsessed millionaire’s teacup lapdog. I would love to see a conversation one day between the two, though I don’t know if I’ll be able to sit through the Jeffree Star ads
Exactly. She's so unwilling and/or unable of introspection and viewing the world w any nuance. Jordy has become increasingly bored w her repetition and lack of depth.
As person having lived 30 years ago I would definitely say that a company would NOT want Eugenia Cooney representing them at that time. There is definitely a line that 99% of people can see death on someone and that is not aspirational.
Whoever thinks Eugenia would be picked up as a model “back in” the 90s is making up an imaginary version of back then than never existed. Honestly, some of the shit that comes out of this guys mouth…
I do remember that. And folks were up in arms about that at the time. Also, that was in the 'high fashion' world. My contemporaries were wearing grunge clothes, rave clothes or clinging to the 80s.
I love how she says Jordy's channel is dedicated to her. No dear, I'm afraid not. Anyone who pays attention to Eugenia is "obsessed with her." The insanity she brings to the table piques interest and brings forth a lot of discussion. And not just for the obvious reasons, there are a LOT of ED'ed people on this platform that make content, but she takes things to a whole new level of yikes. And that's exactly what she goes for. But we're all obsessed. Oh lordy.
idk how she doesn't get people aren't obsessed.. they're dumbfounded and curious how something so blatantly disturbing and sad is happening in front of so many and nothing is being done. People are curious about things that don't make sense. but you'd never be able to tell EC that no one will ever get through to her and that's the scariest part.
Come on, Jordy has become Eugenia’s shadow since he realised the views her name gets. Even his coverage of his usual subjects has dropped off. He’s riding this train, no need to lie about it. He’s not here to make change, he’s a youtuber making coin.
@creatrixZBD I ain't lyin, Jordy has made the most insightful comments of any reaction video on Eugenia I have ever watched and has developed a devoted fan base. A lot of these people don't even come here to watch Eugenia, they come here for his thoughts. This isn't just coin, it's actually meaningful and great engagement with his community.
If she didn’t have such a shocking ED she would’ve been canceled a long time ago. I don’t think the world would accept even a fraction of her disgusting behavior if she didn’t have the excuse of brain malfunction resulting from extreme self harm/abuse. The whole “it’s not her. Don’t blame her, it’s the ED…” .. no. That IS her. That’s who she is.
She reminds me of an annoying office manager “hey guys! I know we reached our goal but NOW let’s try for this new goal, I know we can do it we’re so close.”
Random Observation: She’s getting more clear with her speech, using longer sentences, holding onto a thought a bit longer and using her fake voice a little less. Not as much as she’s shown she’s capable of in the past, but a bit. She’s a bit less annoying with the “thank you” comments as well. I’m really not sure if she’s taking care of herself a tiny bit or else she’s hyper-aware of herself to a whole new level due to…your live coverage? Because yours does go into daily detail on a whole new level. You open a door to a fearless casual conversation as equal adults without the cushion of her disorder altering how you’d treat her otherwise. Her comment section has changed a bit since a few months ago. She seemed to get extra irritated when she said “yeah I DIDNT watch it” as if she knows exactly what sets your videos apart, but immediately shrinks back again. I think she’s afraid of addressing you? People are getting more confrontational about her behavior and direct. Not only the typical eating disorder comments. I feel she may be getting uncomfortable but it might eventually lead to some actual adult or real behavior over time? Idk just occurred to me. It’s like fluctuating in and out but I feel her character is breaking a little bit or she’s able to pay more attention. A lot more self conscious or doubtful? Extremely insecure when trying to talk about her friends. As if she doubts it herself a bit now. I can’t say whether it’s a good or bad thing, but maybe it’s just a temporary thing as well.
Honestly, EC decided months ago to choose Jefferys loyalty over her audience (with the mocking and rudeness etc) so when she LOSES a big competition that relies on her audience.... well, no sh1t! People aren't pawns to pick up when you need them! We've seen who you really are now girl. Ps love u Jordy ❤
@sierram5458 Older men mainly. It's fetishism 🤢 I watched that 3 part series on Mr. Snowflake channel and there is one part that was soooo disgusting it shook me...
But in many ways, when has her audience shown her loyalty and support? They have crossed lines and invaded privacy, and poked and prodded and used and abused, objectified her and dismantled her every move? Is it hard to see how she could have a warped view of her audience, and not trust them? 🤷🏽♀️
@creatrixZBD her audience has ALWAYS tried to help, but never in a way that she sees as such! perhaps if she could IDENTIFY the 2%of her audience that actually send nasty vile hatred towards her and SEPARATE the rest (majority) as actually just concerned and worried. She never sees it as anything more than hate. So her audience is going to be even more upset if she not only ignores the concerns...but mocks them to her new "bestie" Jeffery! I'm not sure how you can say that her audience have never supported her...?! 98% of the viewers she has, only want her to be healthy enough to see 35yrs old. Wanting someone to be healthy and happy while providing her income for her, seems very much like "support" to me!
@@aviouslyavi2 Maybe tastes differ there....... Indeed, because of her weight it would be a shame... But also if I wanted to learn something about fashion or make-up... or was looking for an example... Eugenia would absolutely be one of the last people I would want to imitate or could learn anything from. I don't think she's a trend setter or example for me/others or anything like that...... Or possibly for people who like a bit of gothic...? No idea...??
i checked out braid therapy's account, she for sure deserves this win more than Eugenia! Her lives are really cool, she teaches people how to braid hair in her live session and tbh it's just fun to watch! Educational and relaxing, she is actually working for her money. If Eugenia would maybe give makeup tutorials, fashion ideas, or something along those lines it would spice up her content not this begging nonsense she does.
@zzzi222 yes, I totally agree! Idk why she wants to make it this big secret again, she already admitted in the Shane Doc. she has an eating disorder why hide it's anorexia? I wonder if she thinks if she keeps it a "mystery" people will come back for more. Weird. The whole situation is weird.
One thing to remember in this situation is that a brain in late stage starvation will make you function cognitively at the level of an average 90-yo. Add non stop streaming for a week and we should honestly be surprised if there is even one single Ben Dover-joke clocked. Expect mistakes, misunderstandings and controversy to just pick up from here.
Plus, as with addictions, once the disorder takes hold, that really is about where you stop growing and maturing, because you're pouring all of your energy into getting the disorder or addiction instead of into personal growth or development. So yeah, between that and the huge toll that being malnourished for so long has taken on her cognitive abilities, I honestly don't think she could truly think things Theif or think clearly. She just doesn't have the brain power to learn or grow anymore or have rational well reasoned arguments
Not to mention, any sort of constructive debate, is something she sees as a threat to exposing her ED. She would be forced to examine and defend her own simplistic belief systems, as to what makes a good and bad friend. Not only does she not have the cognitive bandwidth from lack of nutrition, but she’s always had everything handed to her and has never been forced to appropriately advocate for herself.
Sounds about right. I know an 86 year old woman who's a better conversationalist than Eugenia. Sure, she repeats stories sometimes, but she's actually capable of telling interesting tales from her past.
It's really interesting, bringing to light how black and white Eugenia is with friendships and things. Especially how she feels about people who are "Awesome" and people who are "Haters". I was diagnosed with an eating disorder back when I was 15 and now that I am 21, I've been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. In BPD, that black and white thinking, "You either love or hate me", it comes from trust issues, possibly caused by past trauma of failed or toxic relationships. The more I watch this Eugenia content, the more traits I actually recognise and it makes me think this girl needs serious therapeutic help, and not just for the obvious (Edit: It's also notable that you can't argue with a borderline because you won't ever get anywhere. It's called splitting, if they think you're a hater, they won't ever think anything else. They won't even give you a chance once that thought enters their head because to them, you have no true concern, you're just mean and they want nothing to do with that to protect themselves. To others, this becomes frustrating because they can't rationalise with these people. But you will never be able to convince them, because they've already split. They've already classified you as "Haters" or "Liars", and that's just not going to change)
I truly believe she has some sort of dual diagnosis other than just AN. I’ve read that over 56% of BPD patients also have an ED, and one in four people with AN have BPD. I see a lot of behaviors that point to BPD as well
Totally agree. I commented something similar in his last video. I strongly suspect she has BPD and it seems quite a few people with eating disorders are diagnosed with BPD as well.
@@CryinInDaaClub Yeah, from what my therapist told me, EDs are a very common comorbid issue for people with BPD, because it comes from an unstable self image and sense of self worth. It's very clear that Eugenia relies on the opinions of the people she idolises (which is another trait of BPD, putting them on pedestals) and she thinks any other opinion is just hate. She doesn't seem to know where she stands as an individual anymore, which is quite sad to see
@btsarmyforlife88 I appreciate your insight from experience and it seems that you have learned a lot about BPD and about yourself, which I think is great. I think my mother may have BPD and it made for a tough childhood at times. She didn't deserve her trauma. But neither did I. I guess it just comforts me that it seems more people with BPD are seeking help. I wish she would too.
@@CryinInDaaClub I'm really sorry to hear that about your mother. BPD is a very tricky, very damaging disorder for those who have it and the ones around them, very much like any ED. It can really cause terrible strain on relationships and make things really hard. From a perspective of having BPD myself, I want to say I'm sorry for just how awful people with this diagnosis can be at times, we're really bad at managing emotions. I just hope it's understood that we really do try, we just find being close to people scary. On the other hand, I grew up with a narcissistic mother who has borderline traits, and I know how hard it is growing up with that. In my case, therapy definitely helped me learn how to manage and balance relationships and boundaries and I will always promote it to those who are struggling. I hope you and your mother are on a healthy level now, or at the very least you are. No one has to stay around toxic people and even Borderline's know right from wrong. I hope you're in a good place now
I can guarantee that those comments about her gaining weight were extremely triggering and thats why she had to respond to them. Her ED point blank will not allow her to ignore those comments and she has to argue and convince people that she hasn’t gained weight. The people leaving those comments are extremely sadistic.
Extremely nasty, yes. And she will obsess the entire day because she knows exactly what she weighs and she knows she hasn’t gained and yet she’ll drive herself nuts wondering why she looks bigger - bc she believes them that she does. She thinks she must. She blames the sweater bc that’s acceptable to her. When they say it’s her face she can’t rationalize.
Regarding the difference in fashion eras and whether she would have been approved/endorsed 20/30 years ago, I'm thinking that EC's situation is so extreme that I doubt even 30 years ago she would've been held up as a standard or spokesperson for fashion brands. Kate Moss was the "waif" supermodel of the 90s and even she was nowhere near EC level, and there was outcry about her unhealthy thinness then too.
Agreed: Twiggy in the 60s looked buxom compared with her! Heroin chic was routinely criticised in the 80s as well. I think poor Karen Carpenter did a lot to open people's eyes.
I agree. I'm from the 80s/90s. Although nowadays people have flushed their brains down the toilet. A layperson saying "this is emaciation" is met with "wait, are you a doctor or a medical professional?". Please. You don't need to be medical person to be able to critically think.
I agree. I was born in 85 and I don't think she would have been seen as ideal or healthy by any means in my era. Like you said Kate moss was real thin but nowhere near this and there was some outcry about that. Also I remember Mary Kate and Ashley when MK did the red carpet thing and it came out she had an ED and she went to treatment. Thin was definitely in but not ever like this. Idk if she'd get quite the outcry she does today tho tbh...but Definitely think there'd be some amount of backlash.
Currently very sick with some sort of flu and having these video's is saving me from my bordom, thank you for the perfect distraction from my sickness 😊
It's going around bad here in Indiana. Our local hospital is full and nowhere to send the overflow. It seems like just the regular flu virus. Hope you feel better soon 🥰 try to sleep it off 😊
Hi what kind of flu? I’ve been sick for 3 weeks ear and sinus dizzy etc I woke up last night soaking wet and feel a little better today they gave me nasal allergy spray I’m pretty sure I needed an antibiotic!! But yeah the dizziness was really really bad! I hope you don’t have what I did or do!!❤
@@patriciamurfitt4590there is loads of covid out there and no one discussing . Our local nursing home is back to early covid rules due to so many cases . My work just had 15 cases . This is Vermont btw .
Eugenia was projecting her own behavior on to others. I wish her fans were more aware of what she does because they are still defending her till this day despite what she has said and done.
Eugenia was projecting her own behavior on to others. I wish her fans were more aware of what she does because they are still defending her till this day despite what she has said and done.
Euginia: I don't see how the people I am friends with use me for clout Also Euginia: Using Jeffery cosmetics and holding a Jeffery hand mirror while saying this
Ask somebody to explain Influencer marketing , Brand Endorsement and how the fashion & makeup industry works to you . Jefferey will be paying her and I'd guess quite a lot for her using and being seen using their products and there is absolutely nothing wrong or weird about somebody with a successful channel making money this way. For example Do you think it's weird, wrong or hypocritical, that all the crew of the H3H3 always wear garments from Teddy Fresh , Hila Klein's Fashion Label? . Jeffery is using her and her audience to advertise his products, it's just business.
The people repeatedly telling her she’s bigger are wicked no matter what you do or don’t think of her. They talk about her knowing what she’s doing - they know what they’re doing. She keeps going back to it because it’s eating her up inside and it will keep at her for the rest of the day. No good will ever come from that.
There is so much conflict in the world right now, and people give their money to Eugenia and Jeffree? And then they take that money??? I'm so confused 🤡
I know, I see all these animal rescues that help so many animals struggling right now, and people are giving money to these people that aren't doing anything good with it.
Eugenia is like a little prairie dog. She has her hidie hole in her mom’s home and hides from the big bad world. The only reason Jeffree is her bestie is because he’s more of a cartoon character and hero to her and “safe.” Jeffree is anything but safe!
she expects to be able to hide from the WHOLE world but open this window TO the world and get to pick and choose how people respond to her exploiting herself by making her disorder her content.
Jordy, I just want to say, I’m an old lady compared to you (turning 42 next year, let’s hear it for the 82 babies and xennials haha) but I really love listening to you and hearing your opinions and your takes, here with Eugenia but with others as well. I just really admire the realistic, but still empathetic/sympathetic view you take and how you really have a conversation about things. I admit I chuckle sometimes about things bc I’m an old lady and it’s really interesting, and fun, to hear the takes of younger people, but you are mature beyond your years. I really appreciate what you’re doing and I am positive you are a pillar in your community. You really seem like a good person and I wish you nothing but the best. And I just want to say thank you. I have lupus and was going through a really rough time, which turned into a “wicked bad time” (I’m in Boston lol, figured you can appreciate the wicked being from Pittsburgh 😉, go pats- or don’t go at all this year haha ) and bc of all the low dose “chemo” meds and steroid use, I obliterated my leg on Labor Day - I fractured it in several places, and landed in the hospital for 3 weeks, came out with 2 plates, 16 screws and pins and a bone graft, and I have not been healing correctly bc of the lupus and issues there. That was a long sentence to say, my health is shit and I’ve been at home by myself and “in a state”, but your videos have brought me something to listen to and engage in and keep me from spiraling completely into the void and just losing myself. Larger point being, if only in one case, you are keeping people engaged and keeping them away from the ledge and helping minds that would get consumed by other thoughts. I know that sounds crazy but I hope it comes across in some way how I meant it. You’re just a good person and I appreciate your views and I appreciate your videos. You are doing well and doing good things. Thank you, you are so appreciated. ❤
He's not only entertaining, he's judicious and fair and he always makes sure to preface his commentary by saying that these are his "takes" or his "observations". He doesn't state anything as "cold, hard fact". I also believe his audience is very astute and can discern fact from opinion and we also, myself included, have pushed back on some things he's said and given our own observations or beliefs. I think we, by in large, have the ability to think critically and logically and come to pretty sound conclusions. Speaking as someone much older than Jordy by 30 years, I think he's extremely intuitive, wise and insightful. And that laugh...it's infectious and always brightens my day.🥰
Eugenia talks to her audience as if they’re all pre-teens and in the next breath denies that she has influence over young people. Make it make sense! Her denial is pervasive and her lack of personal responsibility is sickening.
Your face in the thumbnail made me burst out laughing. Your commentary is always amazing; please keep it up. You're one of the few reaction channels that do not straight up insult her and I definitely respect that. :)
Exactly! I can’t stomach other commentary videos because they don’t seem to address situations as well as Jordy does. I don’t see him bashing, being nasty etc. I see his videos as informative and open to allowing for conversations that should be had. I appreciate his maturity and the time he takes to ensure he is clear in stating his opinions and why he feels that way.
She’s such a narcissist. I don’t see how anyone can say she isn’t. Narcissists don’t have the ability to say that they’re wrong. That they were mistaken. Defend their point without talking around the point and be as vague as possible so they don’t have to say someone has a point or they were wrong. Narcs can’t carry a conversation that puts them in a bad light. They need to be perfect. Even the most mundane thing they can’t be wrong about. They’ve very good at talking around the topic and move the conversation to something that has nothing to do with anything. But they can’t make a valid argument
She is so threatened by you because you clocked her, you are way to close to the truth for her and she can't stand someone is able to see through her BS. Keep up the coverage, it's so refreshing to see someone do a take of EC from such a clear, adult view-point. Edit: I am 31yrs old and I wish I was even half as well spoken and intellectual as Jordy is. You, my friend, are wise beyond your years. She is so frustrated because she isnt able to come up with anything to disprove you or rivial your thoughts. She is a public figure and the content she puts online is fair gane for you to react to, but you still were understanding enough when she asked you to not talk about her dad or brother and you respected her wishes on that. But everything else is fair game. Watch Jordy become the next thing she throws a fit about like diaper gate... "leave me alone Jordy!" 🙄
@kristinebrown7931 exactly. Because Jordy is respectfully posing a argument and questions that she doesn't like he is a "hater" and "bully" in her opinion. But he has given her a chance to speak up and rival his narrative andshe simply isn't able to
Exactly. His giving people "the wrong idea" about her = shining a light on what's actually unfolding and possible reasons. "I can't go into all the things, guys." Because there isn't anything you can actually refute, Eugie.
I watched her play diablo 4 on twitch one time and all she did was run around in circles in a room with her army of skeletons following her. I think she was trying to finish a quest but kept trying the same thing over and over again. At the time I thought that was sad. Lmao. That was actually peek ewgy content.
I was “told” as an 18 y/o young woman that “heroin chic”, Kate Moss and chain smoking were sexy. It’s still here… weight acceptance or not… she’s on TikTok. To answer your question, yes, a brand or designer would have had her there, but she never would have had much “face time”… if that makes sense. We are all forgetting Isabelle Caro, and that’s tragic!!!
Isabelle changed the standards in Europe. I don’t remember if it carried into the US, but because of Isabelle and her billboard they did start having a minim weight and for once you could be considered too thin for the industry.
When it comes to the "could she win a fashion contest in the 90s - 00s" no. Even tho extreme thinnes was considered the peak of beauty, ppl still had to look... human. There's no point in time where she would actually fit the beauty standard.
To be fair I don’t think Heidi Klum, Kimora Lee, Tyra Banks, were ever anorexic or ridiculously thin, even in their 90s prime and they were extremely successful supermodels.
@@gattogateaux7852 Yes, look up Ana German fashion models in early 2000s. It's disgusting. The goal was for them to look more otherworldly skinny and not human. Ribs showing, pelvic bones showing. It was a mess back then. Thank God it's banned now.
As someone who is 60, and has seen a lot of styles come and go, Eugenia's look is too extreme to have ever been comfortable for anyone to really support. Even in the 60's, when Twiggy was the hottest thing going. 80's girls weren't that focused on being bone-thin. The styles didn't demand that a person be a size zero to pull off wearing them. Also, I wouldn't want my young daughter idolizing an adult woman who is pushing 30, yet dresses and acts 13, and has no life skills that would allow her to live a normal, productive life or be a contributing member of society. Someone who makes a ton of money by living with her parents, and doing literally nothing, online. Someone who is that far outside of most people's reality isn't my idea of an appropriate role model. I wouldn't want to raise another Eugenia. Damn, she's never going to leave home, get married, have kids, etc. She's dependent on you FOREVER. Not the role model MOST parents want for their kids. I didn't even have kids of my own, and I can tell you that following Eugenia wouldn't have been encouraged in my home. Us "going away" doesn't stop her behavior from giving somebody else's daughter the idea that this is someone that they should emulate. A 29-year old woman who behaves this way isn't something anyone should consider normal. This isn't how normal MATURE adults act. We grow out of Powerpuff Girls, Hello Kitty, and Jack Skellington at some point.
I disagree. One’s taste in clothing and cartoons has nothing to do with age. You should go to Japan and see how even the most mature, responsible adult wears flashy Pokémon/Hello Kitty merch. It is not considered something childish. It’s the same as a guy liking a sports team and wearing its merch.
I was a model, A&F, GAP, Armani, Chanel, etc. in the late 90's, early 2000's. NO! She would not have been okay as a face for a company. She is on a whole different level of thin.
I've only watched for a couple months or so now, but I gotta say your content is becoming the highlight of my day! Helping me through a rough time at the moment, love your thoughtful and thorough vids.
👏🏻 cite 👏🏻your👏🏻sources👏🏻Girl !👏🏻 tell Jordy how normal and functional your life is and your in better health than all of us always, and that this is totally not abnormal or outrageous and young children citing you as their aspiration and why they starve themselves is ok!
Her ED is her identity, her source of revenue and her best friend she will defend it at all costs; truth tellers are haters because she hates to hear the truth. She will never seek help again unless a medical emergency forces her and even then she may not.
there's def some narcissism going on with Eugenia as well, bc the defensiveness is just wild. the way she reacts when people criticize her, not anything like "ok yeah that's valid, I could do things differently, will think about it" but she immediately goes like "well go away if you don't like what I do." it's very narc behaviour.
Jordy, the reason you are our favorite reaction channel is because you give honest, thoughtful, intelligent, RATIONAL and logical opinions of the unbalanced and mostly disastrous personalities that make up Gorlworld. You aren't unnecessarily cruel but, most importantly, you don't sugarcoat their ridiculous actions and dysfunctional lives. For example, I have stopped watching another reaction channel because he/they underplay the awful person that ALR truly is. They actually stated they liked "Mamalynn"...there is NOTHING likeable about a person who abused/killed a service animal and physically abused her own mother ("Grandmother Lynn"?) Don't give me the EXCUSE of drug use!! Actions that horrific are caused by something much deeper than substance/alcohol abuse. People who abuse people and animals are defective, poor excuses for human beings who should not be allowed to operate in a civilized society!
Jordy would make an outstanding attorney. Perceptive, logical, fair and incredibly thorough and thoughtful analysis put so eloquently, while also maintaining courtesy and composure.
I'm always so happy when I see a new video from Jordy. It's really getting me through decluttering and deep cleaning my house. I even started watching the amber Lynn stuff.
I grew up in the 90s and remember the body structure of the models. Eugenia is so much more emaciated than those models. She probably was influenced by the models. We were definitely made to feel that you HAD to be petite. But she's beyond that.
Yeah this also carried over into the early 2000s and seems like she kept the “emo” phase. she is stuck in that era of when she was a kid. Top model is another good example of that.
It's very simple: We're fascinated that she is happily dying in front of our eyes. Strangers care more about her life than she does. She'll never admit the truth
Eugenia would've been too extreme even for mainstream "heroin chic" back in the day I think. Earlier in her illness she might've been courted by designers, but at this point she is wayyyy too far gone. There could've been one or two brands that chose her almost as a shock value model. But as someone who was in middle school in the early 2000s, she would've been allllll over the thinspo and pro-ana forums of the time (because I did peruse those) and she's probably on whatever ones exist now.
When I was a teen, a while back, it was all about Kate Moss and the heroin look. I still think people would have been outraged over EC, and no company would have endorsed her.
Maybe, which would have been hypocritical since most of those models weren't far off this. I remember an article about someone who was as bad as eugenia talking about how she still got modelling offers and she was in her last year or so.
I people made jokes i still remember a joke about Michelle Pfeiffer turning to the side and being a piece of psper that gets blown away by the wind or the convo around models such as kate moss not eating and unless you were that thin they didnt want you. EC looks sick and couldnt walk a catwalk if her life depended on it- shes always wanted to be a model hence her stupid faces she makes but she would of never of made it as one then or now but esp now- then it was tolerated almost expected in most modeling now its a big no no having curves is sexy, eugina used to be beautiful but shes completely destroyed her looks and body shes scary now and gross sadly
Mad respect for Jordy and his thoughts. Always trying to come off respectful even when it’s hard to be. Love watching the mature content on such a controversial topic and person. Never quit your commentary! Also, did you hear the fluctuations in the voice getting asked multiple times about Jordy’s commentary? Clearly can hear the wheels turning because someone who is similar in age has some valid points and it’s hard to hear, but always again comes from a respect and kind place. So happy to have found your content!
I think Eugenia is kind of mean because she is talking about my friend Jordy. She can talk about me or whatever, but the fact she talks about my friend...that's not cool with me, so yeah...😂
@@timmyisthereasonlisten, we can't have this tomfoolery in the comments. I just spit my tea all over my work computer reading that😂 thank you so much for a much needed laugh today
I think the comments about her gaining weight does get under her skin, regardless of how many hundreds of times she has seen them. The comment about her cheeks looking fuller definitely bothered her. When she's at a healthier (ish) weight, her face is naturally rounder and i think that has always been a source of insecurity for her
I agree that's why she wears her hair the way she does and sits at a certain angle. I actually thought she looked cute when she was at a "healthier" weight. Now is an obvious obsession to hide her natural beauty. Her whole demeanor and thought process is damaged.
Yeah, I think her face shape is what what made her insecure in the first place. She has such a beautiful face as well. If she hadn't had this illness she would had aged well. Now she won't even see 40.
Saying things like: "I'm sorry YOU don't like my content..." "I'm sorry YOU feel that way about what I said..." "I'm sorry YOU...." Is typical for narcissists, we often hear them speak that way.
I've been more invested in this whole situation more than I'd like to admit. Thank you Jordy for your service and dedication to the topic 🙏 Also your faces reacting to what she's saying are so funny 🤣🤣
Unfortunately there is another live fest for “fan favorites” and she is pushing hard for that one. Yesterday she kept on saying “I don’t know exactly how this live fest works..” GIRL. She has been promoting live fest for hours and hours for the past week. She is obsessed with it.
If she was functional and healthy, she could probably be really successful in a competitive field. Paired with her luxury and privileged access… be it sport or some sort of competitive career even. Sad she threw an entire lifetime away where there’s kids who work so hard for their dreams and goals and would have given an arm for the privilege she was born into. And yet she just throws away a life, rotting away on her couch bed in her bedroom that probably smells funky and complains to a a camera screen all day everyday for decades. So wasteful and cruddy. What does she have to offer with the life she’s leading currently? It’s just pain and spreading illness to impressionable children that this is aspirational !
Jeffree star was getting an IV during the live,.when he told Eugenia that he wished she were there, on the IV armchair beside him. What a troll! And then he blocked me because I told him that his columella (the cartilage between his nostrils) is clearly sinking because of ❄️. Or maybe J 🌟 kicked me out because I called him "Temu's Linda Evangelista". The last thing I heard is that he had to block a jerk with just one hand, since the other one was getting the IV. I was THAT jerk! Proud moment.
love that people are calling out her lack of content whilst begging for money! she clearly doesn't have the energy to do anything else but her life is fcking groundhogs day and she has the money to get help. it's infuriating.
She has resources that so many people would KILL to have access to. Like there are so many people suffering from illnesses that would live to be in her position, just for the access to care they could have. But those people want help. She doesn't. And it's a damn shame. What a waste
She’s not a beauty and fashion influencer………At all. She puts on makeup, markets for Jeffree and shows off her outfit every now and then. That’s it. She didn’t deserve to win or even come close to those that actually are in the fashion and beauty industry.
It’s a tough situation because her mother is right by her side telling her there is nothing wrong with her. Although so many people are genuinely worried for her, her mom has her convinced those are just haters and Jeffery is doing the same. It’s just sad to see someone so unwell. She doesn’t live in reality very much. I’ve never seen so much gaslighting in my life.
I was born in 1983 and Eugenia DEFINITELY would've been a topic of discussion,when I was young, but the assumption wouldve anorexia, or HIV/AIDS. She would NOT be considered beautiful and the only organisation sponsoring her would be, Make a Wish. Skinny was definitely glorified in the 90s/2000s, but not skeletal.
A girl who says “um, I think it’s, like, sweater material” wants to be number one in the fashion/beauty category? 🤦🏻♀️
in her defense she wanted to be a model, not a designer
I've heard that when you have her condition it makes your brain shrink. She used to seem smarter.
A model isn’t required to do more than show the products
She’s not interested in making content. She’s interested in finding an online echo chamber to tell her how awesome and kind she is and finding people to keep her codependent self company on demand with a live stream.
In all fairness, you have described all TikTok streamers
@@LaFabrizia1983 if the shoe fits 🤷🏻♀️
She’s not alone there, why single her out for it? Everyone on social media is there for themselves, and their “community.” (Sp edi)
@@creatrixZBD the amount of effort she puts into making her content is non existent. She just reads chat and provides nothing of value to the conversation. She used to make content that at least had effort put into it. There’s a lot of other streamers that put effort and work into planning their streams or content creation.
You forgot the fetish
When she is telling people "You can vote up to 100 times a day!" , I wish someone would ask her "Ok, but what's in it for me?"
i do see what you mean, especially in a prosocial relationship, but viewing relationships as transactional isnt really too great of a thing.. her fans get dopamine from voting. that im aware of, the whole premise was that the most voted person won, so it makes sense that shes repeating it on a live stream where people are popping in and out
Someone in the live chat said "She drank water for emojis, she's exploiting us" like yeah duh lol
Actually they ask this all the time haha!
She should eat 100 times a day!! lol
@@CryinInDaaClubyup I always see people asking!
I am in the 40s and i find you to be extremely honest and kind. You choose your words carefully and ppint out what others should . I appreciate your streams.
* my 40s🤣
Right like as far as “drama content” goes I feel like Jordy is fairly balanced and compassionate towards whoever he’s talking about.
Wanna get married with me then 🌷
40s Gang! ❤
Thank you for the kind words
I consider you a voice of reason in all this craziness I enjoy your approach and your sense of humor ❤
I really appreciate this! Thank you so much
Eugenia doesn't like Jordy because he is the mirror that shows her who she is without the ED being the focus. She doesn'tlike THAT reflection.
LMAO this part 🤣
True that
yes he doesn't even have to mention her ed at all he can easily pinpoint all the other bs she does,
Eugenia trying to win a fashion and beauty competition is so ironic 💀she certainly doesn't deserve it for any reason.
It is funny. Bc she will “do”
Her makeup on stream
But she’s not reviewing any products (everything is Jeffree and we know her thoughts on the makeup) nor does she ever tell people what she’s doing or trying different styles of makeup. It’s the same makeup just different colors and it’s not done super well. And fashion is off the table bc nothing fits her right bc she’s so thin and with her “goth” aesthetic is not what many in that genre would wear
She's a beautiful girl, or used to be, but her idea of fashion and beauty does nothing to accent her natural beauty or actually improve her appearance (the whole point of makeup and fashion).
It just makes her more colorful.
She's a caricature of herself.
It's both sad and delusional that she would even expect to represent her disorder as something that could be beautiful.
Yeah when I heard Fashion and Beauty I was like HER!? Forget the weight. She can’t even put on lipstick right. Or realize jusg bc you got a box of Jefree’s makeup doesn’t mean you have to wear EVERY item….that blue lipstick. 😬
She's pretty, loves makeup, and likes her style. This comment is just mean.
I would LOVE to interview her and ask her some basic life questions. Like "Do you know how to turn on a washing machine?" "How is your house heated"? "When being a home owner, what type of utility bills does one have to pay?" etc etc...........just normal adult responsibilities stuff...Would LOVE to hear her answers.
Yes! This! Didn't know Belgium is in Europe, what else does this woman NOT know? Ukraine, Israel? Real suffering is not on her radar, only her own. I watched a short vid where her viewers were taunting her to drink water and told her she looked like she had gained (trolling) weight. She was so upset. Esp about the weight gain. So triggered. It was upsetting and I didn't finish watching. I am here for Jordy.
"What is a credit score?" That kind of stuff. I totally agree, that would be fascinating
I've heard there are major issues with the home schooling set up in America. Like it's not getting the type of attention it needs by institutions it should. I mean it's even been used as a way for people to physically abuse their children, so no one will see the abuse on the children. So it's not getting checked up on what your learning either. Really, eugenia got both to an extent. Someone would have been called to the school about the state of her physical health and she might have a clue about something. She can't even carry a conversation.
This is an excellent idea.
@@hannahp1108 YES! What is a credit score is a good one too!
I can honestly say if she had won the beauty and fashion category i would have been deeply saddened at the state of the world, to push this girl forward as a ROLE MODEL
2nd place is pretty depressing also in my opinion.
You’re not already saddened? Look around ya!
She’s gotten so friggin arrogant. “Yeah I’m on here making empty content, but I wanna be on tiktok”. She wants money for doing NOTHING. It’s nuts to me.
Gaining money doing nothing . Anytime please! 😛
Jordy, even 20-30 years ago, I doubt EC would have been held up as a paragon of beauty and fashion. Thin is one thing. Emaciated is quite another. At no time in history would her appearance be looked upon as beautiful
Too extreme for even back then!
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Agreed! A factor here is her age as well. She might have worked some shoots through her twenties even dead thin, but she's lost that buffer of youth. Her skin and hair are going to shit, she can't walk and her motor control is gone. She looks exactly what she is: terribly, frighteningly ill
I agree. I was in my early 20s when Kate Moss was the it girl. No way she would be embraced by the industry in this condition.
truth. she far surpassed any skinny goal, or extreme thin look any corporation of fashion industry designer ever got behind or supported. its beyond the ability to Survive without artificial support OR being able to just SIT AND BREATHE and do NOTHING else 24/7/ but all OTHER EDd women have jobs and school and theyre not millionairres with parents who encourage them to stay sick by allowing them to squat in their mansion in order to sit in a hot room staring at themselves, never getting up with an alarm to go ANYWHERE to accomplish ANYthing. other people are forced to live as adults,and that often helps them recover. because it becomes impossible to survive if you DONT eat and take care of your health
Here quicker than Eugenia mentioning Jeffree any chance she gets
🤦♀️😂
That’s heckin fast
Lahs that's impossible 💀🤣
Haha yes😂
Hahahaha iconic
I’m honestly shocked that EC was even in first place at all, it’s scary to think how much reach her platform actually has. I refuse to give her my view so watching everything through Jordy, sometimes I forget the magnitude of TikTok. It’s terrifying… 😐
Same here. Not going to support her ego
God I hate the world we're living in
@sob prince, I agree 👍. I love Jordy's content, I just have such a hard time looking at EC. She came up in conversation yesterday. The three of us, being 68, 48, and 28 years of age, are disgusted and sadden by her mothers enabling. Of course, we didn't have a teenager's viewpoint. 🤔 EC is her child, not a cash cow.😢
@@barbedwire_lace2160I just wanted to make a slight correction. Eugenia was once a child, but she's now a 29 year old adult. It's a shame she lives in the conditions she lives in, with the enabling and it's obvious she is going through a lot. But she's no longer a child, she's an adult!
Yah, it is so much easier to just watch Jordy. He’s funny, but mature in his analysis.
i’ve noticed your passion for this situation growing with each episode & it’s so validating. love u much jordy
As someone who used to work with people with ED it surprises me how much energy she has to do these 12 hour streams, has she ever fainted on live?
Nope!
No but a few times you would catch her with the blank face stare and she would cut the live.
No but when she used to stream on twitch sometimes shed look like she was dying or she’d start choking like crazy.
makes me wonder if she takes thyroid medication like Karen Carpenter to help keep her peppy and keep her metabolism up.
I was in residential treatment for an Ed and one of my good friends at res was very energetic and I’ll of energy despite extreme low weight
Eugenia should understand that she does not draw a crowd because she sits on her couch, putting on eye shadow from Jeffrey Star. She draws a crowd because she is Anorexic, looks sickly and close to death, and unfortunately, the public has a morbid curiosity about her. That's why she draws a crowd. You don't get millions of viewers being boring Eugenia, sitting on a couch, putting on ugly eye shadow. It just doesn't work that way. Eugenia has a love-hate relationship with the public and the public is morbidly curious about her, that's it. She's not super talented, she's not super interesting, she's actually quite boring when she's not trying to flash her underwear or show people her bones on purpose. I think you are correct Jordy, There is no way tiktok was going to let her represent their company as a whole.
Let's just say I was a kid in the eighty's and I still think Eugenias 'look' is way to extreme even for 90s fashion.
*heroin chic*
Fiona Apple got so much flack for her size, as a teenager and young adult
@@Al00fit’s way beyond that. Eugenia’s build is so small next to others, including her head. I think she was an untreated failure to thrive syndrome child.
Agree
Nicole Riche got pretty bad too
Coffee and Jordy. This is shaping up to be a great start to the day!
☕️cheers
I also have coffee with my Jordy in the morning, cheers!
I love the early ones I get thrown off when he posts later lol
I can't deal with the people that keep excusing her mean and dangerous behaviour because she has a mental illness💀🤡 or keep saying that "she is not really 29 yrs old because of her trauma getting her brain stuck at a young age" so many other humans including myself have gone through rough trauma at a very young age but we keep learning, progressing, growing stronger because THAT IS OUR CHOICE
Well flipping said!
THISS!! 👏👏 I definitely have things to work on... But we ARE actually working on them!!! And seeing progress!!
You can literally hear her voice go up and down based on how irritated she is then when she says thank you to the gifters. She is fake
Yes, same here, I completely agree
💯
She takes ANY opportunity to shade Jaqelyn on being a bad friend. The question had absolutely nothing to do with that. It’s been 4 years. It’s so embarrassing.
I've lost all sort of sympathy for this girl. I've known ana girls who were in even worse condition than her, with no money nor family to help them and none of them was as toxic, greedy, fake, gaslighting and borderline racist as she is. Smiles and excuses can only last for so long.
Eugenia is the epitome of the "poor little rich girl".
She's been wealthy all her life and doesn't know how to do anything because everything was done for her. The woman never wanted for anything.
So, she is and has always been "better" than. She makes faces of disgust with refugees, laughs & makes fun of the man with the thick accent who works everyday at a hot dog stand.
She's better than them.
Right now, she's living her rich girl dream. Finally being seen for who she really is.
Whatever Eugenia wanted Eugenia got.
She is naturally mean, judgmental and one of those rich women who are super nice to your face but you know that they don't g.a.f about you.
Yes I’ve never quite seen anything like this.
Agreed, feel the same.
To me it's like all kinds of disorders all in one person, including personality disorder. She strikes me as narcissistic and it's really showing since her obsession with JS, who shares similar, but worse narcissistic traits.
Totally agree, I cannot feel sorry for someone who hears the sad facts (like she will never have a child or marriage...or all the milestones in life that most girls look forward to) and responds with childish arrogance. She's gotten worse since she saddled up to JS, shame she doesn't realize that he's laughing at her more than he is laughing with her.
I'm a psych RN, and the best piece of advice I have is "Don't argue with insanity." However, I do enjoy watching your attempts to reorient her to reality and provide logical responses to her narrative. Her empty verbiage is longer than a dirt road, got me swervin' like I'm George Jones......
Smoke blowin out the window
Jordy is wise beyond his years! He looks 27, but he has the wisdom of a seasoned human!
I so badly want to ask her:
If you think your audience is as stupid as you act like they are, doesn’t that say way more about the type of people you attract than anyone else?
As someone who is older than Jordy and Eugenia it is amazing at the difference in apparent maturity.
One is well spoken, concise and earnest. The other one is a self-obsessed millionaire’s teacup lapdog. I would love to see a conversation one day between the two, though I don’t know if I’ll be able to sit through the Jeffree Star ads
I agree. JS is so obnoxious and unbearable.
Exactly. She's so unwilling and/or unable of introspection and viewing the world w any nuance. Jordy has become increasingly bored w her repetition and lack of depth.
Don't insult tiny lapdogs like that! Mine takes issue with the comparison!
Jordy out here saving our Monday 🙌🏼
Facts!!
I was starting to get worried he wouldn’t post!
Such a pleasant surprise I wasn't expecting! Here for it!
Really needed this today!😖
It's my birthday! 🎂 🎉🤩🥳
Im in Miami watchin Jordy before i head out lol
As person having lived 30 years ago I would definitely say that a company would NOT want Eugenia Cooney representing them at that time. There is definitely a line that 99% of people can see death on someone and that is not aspirational.
Come on... don't you remember the whole "heroin chic" style? The more wasted and unwell you looked, the cooler you were
@@LaFabrizia1983 have to agree what the you here, unfortunately very very thin was the look then, which I imagine caused a lot of disordered eating.
Whoever thinks Eugenia would be picked up as a model “back in” the 90s is making up an imaginary version of back then than never existed. Honestly, some of the shit that comes out of this guys mouth…
Also, Eugenia's face is pretty generic not really high fashion model.@@creatrixZBD
I do remember that. And folks were up in arms about that at the time. Also, that was in the 'high fashion' world. My contemporaries were wearing grunge clothes, rave clothes or clinging to the 80s.
I love how she says Jordy's channel is dedicated to her. No dear, I'm afraid not. Anyone who pays attention to Eugenia is "obsessed with her." The insanity she brings to the table piques interest and brings forth a lot of discussion. And not just for the obvious reasons, there are a LOT of ED'ed people on this platform that make content, but she takes things to a whole new level of yikes. And that's exactly what she goes for. But we're all obsessed. Oh lordy.
idk how she doesn't get people aren't obsessed.. they're dumbfounded and curious how something so blatantly disturbing and sad is happening in front of so many and nothing is being done. People are curious about things that don't make sense. but you'd never be able to tell EC that no one will ever get through to her and that's the scariest part.
Good comment. FUNNY ending!
Come on, Jordy has become Eugenia’s shadow since he realised the views her name gets. Even his coverage of his usual subjects has dropped off. He’s riding this train, no need to lie about it. He’s not here to make change, he’s a youtuber making coin.
@creatrixZBD I ain't lyin, Jordy has made the most insightful comments of any reaction video on Eugenia I have ever watched and has developed a devoted fan base. A lot of these people don't even come here to watch Eugenia, they come here for his thoughts. This isn't just coin, it's actually meaningful and great engagement with his community.
@@creatrixZBDthe coverage of the other two fell off because they aren't doing anything.
If she didn’t have such a shocking ED she would’ve been canceled a long time ago. I don’t think the world would accept even a fraction of her disgusting behavior if she didn’t have the excuse of brain malfunction resulting from extreme self harm/abuse. The whole “it’s not her. Don’t blame her, it’s the ED…” .. no. That IS her. That’s who she is.
1000% agree with you!!
Literally. Im like, did we all forget about her saying a racist slur the other day????!
Been saying this for YEARS!! 💯
If she didn't have that shocking ED, no one would have a clue who she is. She's boring, shallow and very vain.
Yeah, she has 0 talent, sorry.
Eugenia being told she’s gained weight is 100000% a trigger for her.
I told her her face looks a little chubby
@@marlagarrason2005that's horrible.
@@marlagarrason2005you're 🗑
@marlagarrason2005 not funny, not clever, not cool, just... No.
@@marlagarrason2005 If you think that’s funny then you should get off the internet and get help.
She reminds me of an annoying office manager “hey guys! I know we reached our goal but NOW let’s try for this new goal, I know we can do it we’re so close.”
Random Observation:
She’s getting more clear with her speech, using longer sentences, holding onto a thought a bit longer and using her fake voice a little less. Not as much as she’s shown she’s capable of in the past, but a bit. She’s a bit less annoying with the “thank you” comments as well. I’m really not sure if she’s taking care of herself a tiny bit or else she’s hyper-aware of herself to a whole new level due to…your live coverage? Because yours does go into daily detail on a whole new level. You open a door to a fearless casual conversation as equal adults without the cushion of her disorder altering how you’d treat her otherwise. Her comment section has changed a bit since a few months ago. She seemed to get extra irritated when she said “yeah I DIDNT watch it” as if she knows exactly what sets your videos apart, but immediately shrinks back again. I think she’s afraid of addressing you? People are getting more confrontational about her behavior and direct. Not only the typical eating disorder comments. I feel she may be getting uncomfortable but it might eventually lead to some actual adult or real behavior over time? Idk just occurred to me. It’s like fluctuating in and out but I feel her character is breaking a little bit or she’s able to pay more attention. A lot more self conscious or doubtful? Extremely insecure when trying to talk about her friends. As if she doubts it herself a bit now. I can’t say whether it’s a good or bad thing, but maybe it’s just a temporary thing as well.
As soon as she starts to see things clearly, she may go back to her wonderland because that’s what’s more comfortable for her
Honestly, EC decided months ago to choose Jefferys loyalty over her audience (with the mocking and rudeness etc) so when she LOSES a big competition that relies on her audience.... well, no sh1t! People aren't pawns to pick up when you need them! We've seen who you really are now girl. Ps love u Jordy ❤
hates her audience for being "haters" but on the same side of the token wants them to send all the lions and Tigers and bears, oh my! 🙄
Agreed, but I can't believe how many people are still sending her gifts, and expensive gifts at that.
@sierram5458 Older men mainly. It's fetishism 🤢 I watched that 3 part series on Mr. Snowflake channel and there is one part that was soooo disgusting it shook me...
But in many ways, when has her audience shown her loyalty and support? They have crossed lines and invaded privacy, and poked and prodded and used and abused, objectified her and dismantled her every move? Is it hard to see how she could have a warped view of her audience, and not trust them? 🤷🏽♀️
@creatrixZBD her audience has ALWAYS tried to help, but never in a way that she sees as such! perhaps if she could IDENTIFY the 2%of her audience that actually send nasty vile hatred towards her and SEPARATE the rest (majority) as actually just concerned and worried. She never sees it as anything more than hate. So her audience is going to be even more upset if she not only ignores the concerns...but mocks them to her new "bestie" Jeffery! I'm not sure how you can say that her audience have never supported her...?! 98% of the viewers she has, only want her to be healthy enough to see 35yrs old. Wanting someone to be healthy and happy while providing her income for her, seems very much like "support" to me!
Eugenia literally has nothing to do with beauty or fashion... It would have been ridiculous if she had won.
no. she does. fashion and makeup are part of that. the main part. BUT it’s her weight that would not fit. which is caused by a serious illness.
@@aviouslyavi2 Maybe tastes differ there....... Indeed, because of her weight it would be a shame... But also if I wanted to learn something about fashion or make-up... or was looking for an example... Eugenia would absolutely be one of the last people I would want to imitate or could learn anything from. I don't think she's a trend setter or example for me/others or anything like that...... Or possibly for people who like a bit of gothic...? No idea...??
i checked out braid therapy's account, she for sure deserves this win more than Eugenia! Her lives are really cool, she teaches people how to braid hair in her live session and tbh it's just fun to watch! Educational and relaxing, she is actually working for her money. If Eugenia would maybe give makeup tutorials, fashion ideas, or something along those lines it would spice up her content not this begging nonsense she does.
@zzzi222 yes, I totally agree! Idk why she wants to make it this big secret again, she already admitted in the Shane Doc. she has an eating disorder why hide it's anorexia? I wonder if she thinks if she keeps it a "mystery" people will come back for more. Weird. The whole situation is weird.
One thing to remember in this situation is that a brain in late stage starvation will make you function cognitively at the level of an average 90-yo. Add non stop streaming for a week and we should honestly be surprised if there is even one single Ben Dover-joke clocked. Expect mistakes, misunderstandings and controversy to just pick up from here.
Just watched her dance like a 90 yr old, where she flashed herself to the viewers-so hard to see and KNOW she does it purposefully:(
Plus, as with addictions, once the disorder takes hold, that really is about where you stop growing and maturing, because you're pouring all of your energy into getting the disorder or addiction instead of into personal growth or development.
So yeah, between that and the huge toll that being malnourished for so long has taken on her cognitive abilities, I honestly don't think she could truly think things Theif or think clearly. She just doesn't have the brain power to learn or grow anymore or have rational well reasoned arguments
Not to mention, any sort of constructive debate, is something she sees as a threat to exposing her ED. She would be forced to examine and defend her own simplistic belief systems, as to what makes a good and bad friend. Not only does she not have the cognitive bandwidth from lack of nutrition, but she’s always had everything handed to her and has never been forced to appropriately advocate for herself.
true, I think some people especially on her channel do not realize her brain is starved as well, not just body.
Sounds about right. I know an 86 year old woman who's a better conversationalist than Eugenia. Sure, she repeats stories sometimes, but she's actually capable of telling interesting tales from her past.
I can't believe Jeffree is over on TikTok jumping around like a circus monkey for tokens or whatever. I'm on the wrong planet.
That was the cringiest shit I ever seen.
It's really interesting, bringing to light how black and white Eugenia is with friendships and things. Especially how she feels about people who are "Awesome" and people who are "Haters".
I was diagnosed with an eating disorder back when I was 15 and now that I am 21, I've been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. In BPD, that black and white thinking, "You either love or hate me", it comes from trust issues, possibly caused by past trauma of failed or toxic relationships.
The more I watch this Eugenia content, the more traits I actually recognise and it makes me think this girl needs serious therapeutic help, and not just for the obvious
(Edit: It's also notable that you can't argue with a borderline because you won't ever get anywhere. It's called splitting, if they think you're a hater, they won't ever think anything else. They won't even give you a chance once that thought enters their head because to them, you have no true concern, you're just mean and they want nothing to do with that to protect themselves.
To others, this becomes frustrating because they can't rationalise with these people. But you will never be able to convince them, because they've already split. They've already classified you as "Haters" or "Liars", and that's just not going to change)
I truly believe she has some sort of dual diagnosis other than just AN. I’ve read that over 56% of BPD patients also have an ED, and one in four people with AN have BPD. I see a lot of behaviors that point to BPD as well
Totally agree. I commented something similar in his last video. I strongly suspect she has BPD and it seems quite a few people with eating disorders are diagnosed with BPD as well.
@@CryinInDaaClub Yeah, from what my therapist told me, EDs are a very common comorbid issue for people with BPD, because it comes from an unstable self image and sense of self worth.
It's very clear that Eugenia relies on the opinions of the people she idolises (which is another trait of BPD, putting them on pedestals) and she thinks any other opinion is just hate. She doesn't seem to know where she stands as an individual anymore, which is quite sad to see
@btsarmyforlife88 I appreciate your insight from experience and it seems that you have learned a lot about BPD and about yourself, which I think is great. I think my mother may have BPD and it made for a tough childhood at times. She didn't deserve her trauma. But neither did I. I guess it just comforts me that it seems more people with BPD are seeking help. I wish she would too.
@@CryinInDaaClub I'm really sorry to hear that about your mother. BPD is a very tricky, very damaging disorder for those who have it and the ones around them, very much like any ED. It can really cause terrible strain on relationships and make things really hard.
From a perspective of having BPD myself, I want to say I'm sorry for just how awful people with this diagnosis can be at times, we're really bad at managing emotions. I just hope it's understood that we really do try, we just find being close to people scary.
On the other hand, I grew up with a narcissistic mother who has borderline traits, and I know how hard it is growing up with that. In my case, therapy definitely helped me learn how to manage and balance relationships and boundaries and I will always promote it to those who are struggling.
I hope you and your mother are on a healthy level now, or at the very least you are. No one has to stay around toxic people and even Borderline's know right from wrong. I hope you're in a good place now
I’m here to tell you as a person with an ed she loves people telling her she’s gaining. It gives her an excuse to push herself harder
You're ALWAYS more than kind in your commentary Jordy....one of the big reasons I LOVE your channel.
I can guarantee that those comments about her gaining weight were extremely triggering and thats why she had to respond to them. Her ED point blank will not allow her to ignore those comments and she has to argue and convince people that she hasn’t gained weight. The people leaving those comments are extremely sadistic.
When they pointed out it was her face that looked fuller, you could tell that’s when the armor cracked
Extremely nasty, yes. And she will obsess the entire day because she knows exactly what she weighs and she knows she hasn’t gained and yet she’ll drive herself nuts wondering why she looks bigger - bc she believes them that she does. She thinks she must. She blames the sweater bc that’s acceptable to her. When they say it’s her face she can’t rationalize.
Regarding the difference in fashion eras and whether she would have been approved/endorsed 20/30 years ago, I'm thinking that EC's situation is so extreme that I doubt even 30 years ago she would've been held up as a standard or spokesperson for fashion brands. Kate Moss was the "waif" supermodel of the 90s and even she was nowhere near EC level, and there was outcry about her unhealthy thinness then too.
Agreed: Twiggy in the 60s looked buxom compared with her! Heroin chic was routinely criticised in the 80s as well. I think poor Karen Carpenter did a lot to open people's eyes.
I agree. I'm from the 80s/90s. Although nowadays people have flushed their brains down the toilet. A layperson saying "this is emaciation" is met with "wait, are you a doctor or a medical professional?". Please. You don't need to be medical person to be able to critically think.
Hearing her terrified of the weight gain is so triggering. I can so relate . Even recovered if someone said that I’d be thinking about it non stop.
@maryannm2876 I'm an 80s/90s gal too, and I totally agree. Common sense ain't that common anymore lol.
I agree. I was born in 85 and I don't think she would have been seen as ideal or healthy by any means in my era. Like you said Kate moss was real thin but nowhere near this and there was some outcry about that. Also I remember Mary Kate and Ashley when MK did the red carpet thing and it came out she had an ED and she went to treatment. Thin was definitely in but not ever like this. Idk if she'd get quite the outcry she does today tho tbh...but Definitely think there'd be some amount of backlash.
Currently very sick with some sort of flu and having these video's is saving me from my bordom, thank you for the perfect distraction from my sickness 😊
Hope you feel better!🫶
It's going around bad here in Indiana. Our local hospital is full and nowhere to send the overflow. It seems like just the regular flu virus. Hope you feel better soon 🥰 try to sleep it off 😊
Hi what kind of flu? I’ve been sick for 3 weeks ear and sinus dizzy etc I woke up last night soaking wet and feel a little better today they gave me nasal allergy spray I’m pretty sure I needed an antibiotic!! But yeah the dizziness was really really bad! I hope you don’t have what I did or do!!❤
Feel better and please test for covid multiple times. It’s rampant.
@@patriciamurfitt4590there is loads of covid out there and no one discussing . Our local nursing home is back to early covid rules due to so many cases . My work just had 15 cases . This is Vermont btw .
Omg she's calling you a gaslighter lmao. That made me spit out my coffee 😂
Eugenia was projecting her own behavior on to others.
I wish her fans were more aware of what she does because they are still defending her till this day despite what she has said and done.
Eugenia was projecting her own behavior on to others.
I wish her fans were more aware of what she does because they are still defending her till this day despite what she has said and done.
@Arcania9516 Exactly 💯
Euginia: I don't see how the people I am friends with use me for clout
Also Euginia: Using Jeffery cosmetics and holding a Jeffery hand mirror while saying this
Ask somebody to explain Influencer marketing , Brand Endorsement and how the fashion & makeup industry works to you . Jefferey will be paying her and I'd guess quite a lot for her using and being seen using their products and there is absolutely nothing wrong or weird about somebody with a successful channel making money this way. For example Do you think it's weird, wrong or hypocritical, that all the crew of the H3H3 always wear garments from Teddy Fresh , Hila Klein's Fashion Label? . Jeffery is using her and her audience to advertise his products, it's just business.
@@HitTheBricks89 lmao tldr ik what influencer marketing is but it’s still ironic. That’s all I was pointing out.
The people repeatedly telling her she’s bigger are wicked no matter what you do or don’t think of her. They talk about her knowing what she’s doing - they know what they’re doing. She keeps going back to it because it’s eating her up inside and it will keep at her for the rest of the day.
No good will ever come from that.
💯 absolutely mean, do they want her to die? Probably so, just horrible people 🥺
It's clear the ones calling her bigger want her to collapse.
There is so much conflict in the world right now, and people give their money to Eugenia and Jeffree? And then they take that money??? I'm so confused 🤡
It's RIDICULOUS!!! And so so sad.
No. TikTok a Chinese company takes the money. Think on that
I know, I see all these animal rescues that help so many animals struggling right now, and people are giving money to these people that aren't doing anything good with it.
Eugenia is like a little prairie dog. She has her hidie hole in her mom’s home and hides from the big bad world. The only reason Jeffree is her bestie is because he’s more of a cartoon character and hero to her and “safe.” Jeffree is anything but safe!
At least prairie dogs eat 😂
she expects to be able to hide from the WHOLE world but open this window TO the world and get to pick and choose how people respond to her exploiting herself by making her disorder her content.
I don’t care if she wants to hide or not. It’s her life. I just want the flashing and her exploiting child fans to stop
The fact that she is unsure if people are trolling or not when they say her “cheeks are fuller” displays the raw and true anorexia.
Yep
Jordy, I just want to say, I’m an old lady compared to you (turning 42 next year, let’s hear it for the 82 babies and xennials haha) but I really love listening to you and hearing your opinions and your takes, here with Eugenia but with others as well.
I just really admire the realistic, but still empathetic/sympathetic view you take and how you really have a conversation about things.
I admit I chuckle sometimes about things bc I’m an old lady and it’s really interesting, and fun, to hear the takes of younger people, but you are mature beyond your years. I really appreciate what you’re doing and I am positive you are a pillar in your community. You really seem like a good person and I wish you nothing but the best.
And I just want to say thank you. I have lupus and was going through a really rough time, which turned into a “wicked bad time” (I’m in Boston lol, figured you can appreciate the wicked being from Pittsburgh 😉, go pats- or don’t go at all this year haha ) and bc of all the low dose “chemo” meds and steroid use, I obliterated my leg on Labor Day - I fractured it in several places, and landed in the hospital for 3 weeks, came out with 2 plates, 16 screws and pins and a bone graft, and I have not been healing correctly bc of the lupus and issues there. That was a long sentence to say, my health is shit and I’ve been at home by myself and “in a state”, but your videos have brought me something to listen to and engage in and keep me from spiraling completely into the void and just losing myself.
Larger point being, if only in one case, you are keeping people engaged and keeping them away from the ledge and helping minds that would get consumed by other thoughts.
I know that sounds crazy but I hope it comes across in some way how I meant it.
You’re just a good person and I appreciate your views and I appreciate your videos.
You are doing well and doing good things.
Thank you, you are so appreciated.
❤
I’m 50, so you’re in good hands.
You’re not old!
@@CianneDoodles I was just about to post the same!
Kelljells you are young! 😊. I'm in my 60s and concur with your sentiments!
Hope your recovery gets back on track and you get better soon.
Jordy is one of the most entertaining creators we have, but so much more. The intelligence and research he does surpass most others! ❤👏👏👏
I like the way he thinks out loud, questioning things, even himself 👍❤
Research?
He's not only entertaining, he's judicious and fair and he always makes sure to preface his commentary by saying that these are his "takes" or his "observations". He doesn't state anything as "cold, hard fact". I also believe his audience is very astute and can discern fact from opinion and we also, myself included, have pushed back on some things he's said and given our own observations or beliefs. I think we, by in large, have the ability to think critically and logically and come to pretty sound conclusions.
Speaking as someone much older than Jordy by 30 years, I think he's extremely intuitive, wise and insightful. And that laugh...it's infectious and always brightens my day.🥰
@barbedwire 💯
yes.
Eugenia talks to her audience as if they’re all pre-teens and in the next breath denies that she has influence over young people. Make it make sense!
Her denial is pervasive and her lack of personal responsibility is sickening.
Omg this 💯🎯‼️
Your face in the thumbnail made me burst out laughing. Your commentary is always amazing; please keep it up. You're one of the few reaction channels that do not straight up insult her and I definitely respect that. :)
I want jordy merch with that face on 😂😳
@@Bettiebunny yes! I'd wear it for sure in my stupid little videos ha
His reactions, even if it’s a straight face, always cracks me up while watching these videos
👍 Exactly.. Also says what honestly needs to b said..
Exactly! I can’t stomach other commentary videos because they don’t seem to address situations as well as Jordy does. I don’t see him bashing, being nasty etc. I see his videos as informative and open to allowing for conversations that should be had. I appreciate his maturity and the time he takes to ensure he is clear in stating his opinions and why he feels that way.
She’s such a narcissist. I don’t see how anyone can say she isn’t. Narcissists don’t have the ability to say that they’re wrong. That they were mistaken. Defend their point without talking around the point and be as vague as possible so they don’t have to say someone has a point or they were wrong. Narcs can’t carry a conversation that puts them in a bad light. They need to be perfect. Even the most mundane thing they can’t be wrong about. They’ve very good at talking around the topic and move the conversation to something that has nothing to do with anything. But they can’t make a valid argument
She is so threatened by you because you clocked her, you are way to close to the truth for her and she can't stand someone is able to see through her BS. Keep up the coverage, it's so refreshing to see someone do a take of EC from such a clear, adult view-point.
Edit: I am 31yrs old and I wish I was even half as well spoken and intellectual as Jordy is. You, my friend, are wise beyond your years. She is so frustrated because she isnt able to come up with anything to disprove you or rivial your thoughts. She is a public figure and the content she puts online is fair gane for you to react to, but you still were understanding enough when she asked you to not talk about her dad or brother and you respected her wishes on that. But everything else is fair game. Watch Jordy become the next thing she throws a fit about like diaper gate... "leave me alone Jordy!" 🙄
@kristinebrown7931 exactly. Because Jordy is respectfully posing a argument and questions that she doesn't like he is a "hater" and "bully" in her opinion. But he has given her a chance to speak up and rival his narrative andshe simply isn't able to
Definitely I'm seeing her bringing him while "not trying to be mean" to her conversations with her best friends since 2008
Exactly. His giving people "the wrong idea" about her = shining a light on what's actually unfolding and possible reasons.
"I can't go into all the things, guys." Because there isn't anything you can actually refute, Eugie.
It’s like Groundhog Day everyday in Eugenia’s stream. Same music, same make up, same hair do, same backdrop, literally same phrases over and over.
I watched her play diablo 4 on twitch one time and all she did was run around in circles in a room with her army of skeletons following her. I think she was trying to finish a quest but kept trying the same thing over and over again. At the time I thought that was sad. Lmao. That was actually peek ewgy content.
THIS
It sure is.
I was “told” as an 18 y/o young woman that “heroin chic”, Kate Moss and chain smoking were sexy. It’s still here… weight acceptance or not… she’s on TikTok. To answer your question, yes, a brand or designer would have had her there, but she never would have had much “face time”… if that makes sense. We are all forgetting Isabelle Caro, and that’s tragic!!!
Yep, I agree
I just said something about kate moss and heroin chic too! Insanity that was actually a thing
Isabelle changed the standards in Europe. I don’t remember if it carried into the US, but because of Isabelle and her billboard they did start having a minim weight and for once you could be considered too thin for the industry.
When it comes to the "could she win a fashion contest in the 90s - 00s" no. Even tho extreme thinnes was considered the peak of beauty, ppl still had to look... human. There's no point in time where she would actually fit the beauty standard.
Those models from that time were still anorexic though. They were still skin and bones. That's why it was banned in some places.
@44LillPuffin absolutely. I'm not saying most of them looked healthy. But, be real. Did Anyone look as intense as her?
To be fair I don’t think Heidi Klum, Kimora Lee, Tyra Banks, were ever anorexic or ridiculously thin, even in their 90s prime and they were extremely successful supermodels.
@@gattogateaux7852 Yes, look up Ana German fashion models in early 2000s. It's disgusting. The goal was for them to look more otherworldly skinny and not human. Ribs showing, pelvic bones showing. It was a mess back then. Thank God it's banned now.
100% this
As someone who is 60, and has seen a lot of styles come and go, Eugenia's look is too extreme to have ever been comfortable for anyone to really support. Even in the 60's, when Twiggy was the hottest thing going. 80's girls weren't that focused on being bone-thin. The styles didn't demand that a person be a size zero to pull off wearing them.
Also, I wouldn't want my young daughter idolizing an adult woman who is pushing 30, yet dresses and acts 13, and has no life skills that would allow her to live a normal, productive life or be a contributing member of society. Someone who makes a ton of money by living with her parents, and doing literally nothing, online.
Someone who is that far outside of most people's reality isn't my idea of an appropriate role model.
I wouldn't want to raise another Eugenia. Damn, she's never going to leave home, get married, have kids, etc. She's dependent on you FOREVER.
Not the role model MOST parents want for their kids.
I didn't even have kids of my own, and I can tell you that following Eugenia wouldn't have been encouraged in my home.
Us "going away" doesn't stop her behavior from giving somebody else's daughter the idea that this is someone that they should emulate.
A 29-year old woman who behaves this way isn't something anyone should consider normal. This isn't how normal MATURE adults act. We grow out of Powerpuff Girls, Hello Kitty, and Jack Skellington at some point.
I absolutely agree. We can still love our childhood toys or TV shows/ characters, but it is odd to make it part of your personality as an adult .
I disagree. One’s taste in clothing and cartoons has nothing to do with age. You should go to Japan and see how even the most mature, responsible adult wears flashy Pokémon/Hello Kitty merch. It is not considered something childish. It’s the same as a guy liking a sports team and wearing its merch.
Im so glad you're saying this because she needs to hear it and you know she's watching you
I was a model, A&F, GAP, Armani, Chanel, etc. in the late 90's, early 2000's. NO! She would not have been okay as a face for a company. She is on a whole different level of thin.
I've only watched for a couple months or so now, but I gotta say your content is becoming the highlight of my day! Helping me through a rough time at the moment, love your thoughtful and thorough vids.
👏🏻 cite 👏🏻your👏🏻sources👏🏻Girl !👏🏻 tell Jordy how normal and functional your life is and your in better health than all of us always, and that this is totally not abnormal or outrageous and young children citing you as their aspiration and why they starve themselves is ok!
THIS!!!! This needs pinned
EG has consistently refused any form of adulthood, including adult reasoning & communication.
And isn't she 30 yrs old?? Grow tf up!
It’s the brain damage.
@@daniellemott6952 correct. Though the arrested development is more like 12.
Her ED is her identity, her source of revenue and her best friend she will defend it at all costs; truth tellers are haters because she hates to hear the truth. She will never seek help again unless a medical emergency forces her and even then she may not.
Anyone who speaks the truth about her eating disorder and not living in her play pretend world is "crazy"
there's def some narcissism going on with Eugenia as well, bc the defensiveness is just wild. the way she reacts when people criticize her, not anything like "ok yeah that's valid, I could do things differently, will think about it" but she immediately goes like "well go away if you don't like what I do." it's very narc behaviour.
Jordy blessing us with a whopping 1.5hr long EC coverage on a Monday morning!!! Thank you for making the start of my day a little funnier.
Jordy, the reason you are our favorite reaction channel is because you give honest, thoughtful, intelligent, RATIONAL and logical opinions of the unbalanced and mostly disastrous personalities that make up Gorlworld. You aren't unnecessarily cruel but, most importantly, you don't sugarcoat their ridiculous actions and dysfunctional lives. For example, I have stopped watching another reaction channel because he/they underplay the awful person that ALR truly is. They actually stated they liked "Mamalynn"...there is NOTHING likeable about a person who abused/killed a service animal and physically abused her own mother ("Grandmother Lynn"?) Don't give me the EXCUSE of drug use!! Actions that horrific are caused by something much deeper than substance/alcohol abuse. People who abuse people and animals are defective, poor excuses for human beings who should not be allowed to operate in a civilized society!
WELL SAID AND I AGREE WITH 100%
my favourite reactor is Zachary Michael. That doesn’t mean I can’t watch Jordy too.
Jordy would make an outstanding attorney. Perceptive, logical, fair and incredibly thorough and thoughtful analysis put so eloquently, while also maintaining courtesy and composure.
Thanks!
I'm always so happy when I see a new video from Jordy. It's really getting me through decluttering and deep cleaning my house. I even started watching the amber Lynn stuff.
I grew up in the 90s and remember the body structure of the models. Eugenia is so much more emaciated than those models. She probably was influenced by the models. We were definitely made to feel that you HAD to be petite. But she's beyond that.
Yeah this also carried over into the early 2000s and seems like she kept the “emo” phase. she is stuck in that era of when she was a kid. Top model is another good example of that.
Yeah, Kate Moss is healthy looking compared to this
Hearing about what’s going on over at TikTok is such a surreal state of the internet.
It's very simple: We're fascinated that she is happily dying in front of our eyes. Strangers care more about her life than she does. She'll never admit the truth
Your channel is the most respectful reaction channel I've come across.
You are so well-spoken, it never stops to impress me !
I also never get tired of your laugh 😆
Eugenia would've been too extreme even for mainstream "heroin chic" back in the day I think. Earlier in her illness she might've been courted by designers, but at this point she is wayyyy too far gone. There could've been one or two brands that chose her almost as a shock value model. But as someone who was in middle school in the early 2000s, she would've been allllll over the thinspo and pro-ana forums of the time (because I did peruse those) and she's probably on whatever ones exist now.
100%
When I was a teen, a while back, it was all about Kate Moss and the heroin look. I still think people would have been outraged over EC, and no company would have endorsed her.
Maybe, which would have been hypocritical since most of those models weren't far off this. I remember an article about someone who was as bad as eugenia talking about how she still got modelling offers and she was in her last year or so.
I people made jokes i still remember a joke about Michelle Pfeiffer turning to the side and being a piece of psper that gets blown away by the wind or the convo around models such as kate moss not eating and unless you were that thin they didnt want you. EC looks sick and couldnt walk a catwalk if her life depended on it- shes always wanted to be a model hence her stupid faces she makes but she would of never of made it as one then or now but esp now- then it was tolerated almost expected in most modeling now its a big no no having curves is sexy, eugina used to be beautiful but shes completely destroyed her looks and body shes scary now and gross sadly
I just love waking up in the morning and finding a Jordy video waiting for me to watch. Thanks for your vids, Jordy! 😊
Mad respect for Jordy and his thoughts. Always trying to come off respectful even when it’s hard to be. Love watching the mature content on such a controversial topic and person. Never quit your commentary! Also, did you hear the fluctuations in the voice getting asked multiple times about Jordy’s commentary? Clearly can hear the wheels turning because someone who is similar in age has some valid points and it’s hard to hear, but always again comes from a respect and kind place. So happy to have found your content!
Wonderful coverage!! I’m in Jamaica rn however as soon as you upload I JUMP to your videos!! Thank you Jordy!! Love you so much 👍❤️🫂
I think Eugenia is kind of mean because she is talking about my friend Jordy. She can talk about me or whatever, but the fact she talks about my friend...that's not cool with me, so yeah...😂
I'm going to have my best friend since 2008 give eugenia a knuckle sandwich if they keep saying mean things about you on tik tok.
@@timmyisthereasonlisten, we can't have this tomfoolery in the comments. I just spit my tea all over my work computer reading that😂 thank you so much for a much needed laugh today
@timmyisthereason But first, give her a free lip gloss, cause she was brave enough to speak her mind, and thennnnn give her the knuckle sandwhich 🤣
@kortaniijohnson512 I'm glad I could make you laugh. Thats awesome. Hannah deserves the credit though.
@@hannahwatson265 she's gonna need it!
I think the comments about her gaining weight does get under her skin, regardless of how many hundreds of times she has seen them. The comment about her cheeks looking fuller definitely bothered her. When she's at a healthier (ish) weight, her face is naturally rounder and i think that has always been a source of insecurity for her
I agree that's why she wears her hair the way she does and sits at a certain angle.
I actually thought she looked cute when she was at a "healthier" weight.
Now is an obvious obsession to hide her natural beauty.
Her whole demeanor and thought process is damaged.
Yeah, I think her face shape is what what made her insecure in the first place. She has such a beautiful face as well. If she hadn't had this illness she would had aged well. Now she won't even see 40.
Which is a shame because her rounder face looks so much better.
Saying things like:
"I'm sorry YOU don't like my content..."
"I'm sorry YOU feel that way about what I said..."
"I'm sorry YOU...."
Is typical for narcissists, we often hear them speak that way.
“I’m sorry IF…” is not an apology at all
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Interesting! I agree 🙂
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maybe she learnt that from her mum oof
I've been more invested in this whole situation more than I'd like to admit. Thank you Jordy for your service and dedication to the topic 🙏 Also your faces reacting to what she's saying are so funny 🤣🤣
She doesn't deserve to win She sits there and does nothing but beg
She’s giving you so much free promotion by referencing you so much! How nice of her
Yeah all the people she tells they don't have to watch her...
Unfortunately there is another live fest for “fan favorites” and she is pushing hard for that one. Yesterday she kept on saying “I don’t know exactly how this live fest works..” GIRL. She has been promoting live fest for hours and hours for the past week. She is obsessed with it.
If she was functional and healthy, she could probably be really successful in a competitive field. Paired with her luxury and privileged access… be it sport or some sort of competitive career even. Sad she threw an entire lifetime away where there’s kids who work so hard for their dreams and goals and would have given an arm for the privilege she was born into. And yet she just throws away a life, rotting away on her couch bed in her bedroom that probably smells funky and complains to a a camera screen all day everyday for decades. So wasteful and cruddy.
What does she have to offer with the life she’s leading currently? It’s just pain and spreading illness to impressionable children that this is aspirational !
Jeffree star was getting an IV during the live,.when he told Eugenia that he wished she were there, on the IV armchair beside him. What a troll! And then he blocked me because I told him that his columella (the cartilage between his nostrils) is clearly sinking because of ❄️. Or maybe J 🌟 kicked me out because I called him "Temu's Linda Evangelista". The last thing I heard is that he had to block a jerk with just one hand, since the other one was getting the IV. I was THAT jerk! Proud moment.
Lol well done haha x
When Jordy bursts out laughing I can’t help but laugh too 😂😂
"This is why I can't use much contour, guys, because im so pale."
Yeah, that's the reason 💀
love that people are calling out her lack of content whilst begging for money! she clearly doesn't have the energy to do anything else but her life is fcking groundhogs day and she has the money to get help. it's infuriating.
She has resources that so many people would KILL to have access to. Like there are so many people suffering from illnesses that would live to be in her position, just for the access to care they could have.
But those people want help. She doesn't. And it's a damn shame. What a waste
exactly. which is why no one should believe she's anything more than an empty spectacle.
she lives “groundhogs day” so true
I used all my votes for others. Didn't want her to win this.
lmao :)
I have so much respect for how real you are. very rare. you are not afraid to speak the truth. I wish more creators were like that.
Especially in this day and age. We need more outlets like these to feel comfortable to be able to state our opinions, disagree and discuss.
She’s not a beauty and fashion influencer………At all. She puts on makeup, markets for Jeffree and shows off her outfit every now and then. That’s it. She didn’t deserve to win or even come close to those that actually are in the fashion and beauty industry.
It’s a tough situation because her mother is right by her side telling her there is nothing wrong with her. Although so many people are genuinely worried for her, her mom has her convinced those are just haters and Jeffery is doing the same. It’s just sad to see someone so unwell. She doesn’t live in reality very much. I’ve never seen so much gaslighting in my life.
JS is just waiting for her Demise so he can create a pallette bearing her name etc etc...the world is dark indeed
Here so fast. Finally you’re getting recognition Jordy!!! Physical trophies may be in your future 👀
Here quicker than Eugenia defending Jeffree every chance she gets
Here quicker than Eugenia pulling out a Jeffree mirror
Here quicker than Eugenia grabbing a bite to ea--t wait nevermind 😂
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I was born in 1983 and Eugenia DEFINITELY would've been a topic of discussion,when I was young, but the assumption wouldve anorexia, or HIV/AIDS. She would NOT be considered beautiful and the only organisation sponsoring her would be, Make a Wish. Skinny was definitely glorified in the 90s/2000s, but not skeletal.
Jordy your mother should be so proud of the young man that you are🤍 You are so mature & so wise @ such a young age!
The only reason that she doesn't look like a total zombie is filters. If they did away with the filters we would all see the tragic truth 🥺
As someone who looks like a zombie in real life,i can comfirm that i also use filters to look more alive.
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