I had a 2019 Jetta SE and my wife had a 2020 Passat as a rental for work. After driving that I had to head to my dealer and check out one out as my lease was ending soon. I ended up going home with a 2022 Passat SE. The ride is so smooth on 18” wheels. The space inside is amazing, fuel economy is great, remote start, car net, and home link. It’s not the sportiest but it’s nice. I’m happy with it
Looking to upgrade after a really long time with my 2013 Jetta. Do you know if the Passat armrest slides forward like the adjustable armrests in last generation Jettas? Thank you in advance!
@@daviddesrosiers1300 yes I love the ratchet feature too, not sure why newer VWs are removing this feature. How is it on the road compared to Jetta? My 2013 Jetta is super stiff and you definitely feel every pothole
@@jakepatchogue9478 compared to my 19’ and 15’ Jetta’s I’d say it’s not as stiff. Not that it’s like a boat but it definitely feels more loose. And hitting a pothole with my winter tires is not as bad as my all seasons with the 18” wheels. So it all depends on what wheels and tires too
I had a 2021 Passat Trendline while my GTI S was being serviced. I found the suspension to feel really floaty (like a boat basically), the brake pedal was indeed very assisted and hard to brake smoothly. The interior felt really cheap compared to the GTI. It was ok, but I was glad to get my GTI back the next day 😎
I still love my 2014 Passat 1.8 TSI manual, it's the best daily driver I can think of. I've driven across Canada and did 1200 km's with one tank with all my stuff in back and was able to fold the backseat and sleep in it! For the size, price and the driving dynamics I think it's a great car. It never gave me issues since day one and it's still going strong. I bought it new! Unfortunately i won't be able to replace it with another Passat. VW did not keep it up to date, they simply wanted to kill it for the market and that they did.
I have a 2016 model, it’s sad they haven’t changed much in 5 years. Guess I’ll keep driving my 2016 and eventually get something else when the time comes. That being said though mine has been a great car overall, roomy, comfortable and shockingly good on gas. The 1.8T packs a punch as well!
I've driven a 16' Passat 1.8T and I really liked it in comparison to even the new Camry LE, Altima SV etc. I think the Kia K5 and Accord are the way to go.
This car seems like it will be pretty reliable. It doesn't seem special in any way but sometimes that is good. I would rather have something more interesting though. Simple is better in some cases however. Your insta camera did pretty well in this one... :)
The problem is that the better options are also reliable. If I wanted something boring and reliable, why not just go directly to the Toyota lot? Heck even the current gen Camry is a nice and more interesting vehicle. The Accord also similar interior space. The Mazda6 is on a similarly aged platform, but at least they updated the interior and features to keep it competitive. Mazda also recently topped CR’s reliability charts. Unfortunately this car makes no sense unless you’re a VW fan.
@@panzer_TZ That new Corolla looks so much better than this Passat or Jetta. This is coming from a European who grew up in a country where Passat was looked as the luxury car that was achievable for a regular person, so I obviously loved how it looked.
I had 2016 r-line Passat and I loved it. But I traded it in for a Atlas. This doesn’t look much different from the 2016 facelift besides the backlights. I still like this model though.
I had a 2018 Passat that had the v6 engine. It was the best car I ever had until I got hit from behind which resulted in a loss. I test drove the 2020 Passat and I can honestly say it was no better than the 18. I wasn’t feeling it at all especially after they took the v6 out. Passat ain’t nothing anymore
They’ll be discontinuing the Passat here in the near future. I own a 2017 R Line Passat and it’s a very reliable car. It’s your standard roomy mid sized sedan with plastic everywhere. Got mine for $10k with 60k miles on it. 🤷🏻♂️
Topher is the best! I don’t know how people haven’t gotten sick and tired of Joe Raiti and his annoying hand gestures and stupid comments like “interior hotter than your date” 🤦♂️
Going to be test driving a leftover brand new 2020 SEL Premium in two days. Its been discounted down to $25,000, which I think is pretty good for the top trim of that year (it's MSRP was like $32,500). After watching this video I'm almost sure I'll be bringing it home. Its pretty much what I'm looking for and a price I want to spend on a new car.
@@marcmaz21 I was so disappointed. I just couldn't fit in it totally comfortably. I'm tall and my legs were too long. I adjust the seat and steering wheel as best I could and I couldn't make it work. I really liked the look of the car and it was a screaming deal. I think if it had 8-way power seats instead of just 6-way I could have gotten comfortable. Every other midsize had 8-way power driver seats (and I ended up with a Subaru Legacy).
$25k for an SEL that makes this thing far more attractive. It may be behind in most categories but has tons of rear seat legroom/headroom, great sound system and near hybrid level fuel economy without being a hybrid.
I have to ponder the difference the Giti tires make in overall satisfaction. I purchased my 2020 R line one year to the day of this writing. I test drove a R line with the Giti’s then drove my car with Falkens. I noticed right away mine was a bit sharper with the Falkens. I’ve owned several CPO BMWs and a Mercedes S430 and the Passat is by far my favorite!
Love my 2020 Passat R-Line. Not really fast but comfortable and big inside. Sexy looking car. Best thing is you don’t see very many on the road. Nice car.
This is definitely a forgotten car. Rarely seen on the road nor sells. Although it looks beautiful, its just old and outdated. VW needs to discontinue this car. Great review though!
If your going to get a Passat get the tdi I’ve had 0 issues and it’s honestly kind of a fun car to drive with 240 lb of torque at only 1750 rpm and oh yea I 45 mpg on a bad day
The Passat is a lot like the Acura ILX in a sense. Facelifted and still a quality vehicle, but in need of a redesign. Has the modern features you want and updated exteriors, but the interiors still feel dated regardless of the tech in them. This comes from a 2019 Acura ILX Tech A-Spec owner.
It seems like a good car, but gotta give kudos to Kia and Hyundai for flexing so hard in this space. More power, more tech, for less money (I'm thinking the K5, Elantra N-Line, etc).
@@alh06 What? What's your source? Kia and Hyundai are well known for being quite reliable, and are ranked quite a bit higher than VW (and have way better warranties). I'd be much more concerned about VW reliability vs Kia or Hyundai-VWs are great if you're leasing, but can be a total disaster if not (DSG transmissions, for example).
@@candyvan6663 Ah that’s good re: the DSG! I think if they’re taken care of and serviced as they should they’re fine. Bummer about the engine troubles...
@@thrillhousecycling7260 Literally google it, they had to recall tens of thousands of cars in Korea and the US for fire risk. I like the new Kias and Hyundai’s and am concerned about Volkswagen reliability but there are some issues with both.
Curious -- your comment that the trunk isn't as roomy as it used to be -- compared to what year? I had a 2014 Passat TDI that was totaled by a rear-ender, so I moved into a 2022 Passat Limited. The trunk liner (the carpeted one with the Velcro corner blocks to hold cargo) from my 2014 fits perfectly, so the trunk size is identical at least to the previous platform.
@@Moodboard39 how better? Yeah cars are meant to be driven, but you’d expect after years their design language in the interior would be innovated besides the exterior? I’m sure you’ve noticed that other companies try their best to update the cars interior through out the years and in different generations too, you’d think after watching a car channel you’d notice that too right? It’s just an observation bro, chill out and get over YOURSELF.
2:05 You hit the nail on the head. They used to feel special, not anymore. I really don’t know what happened to VW, especially in North America. I’ve lost faith in VW almost entirely and I own a 2019 Golf. Sadly I very likely won’t be buying another VW car.
Can you please expose this issue with the 2020/19/18 Camry (non-hybrid). There’s a post about it. Make sure the car is on, all windows up so you can hear, no AC or music on. It needs to be really quiet. There’s an annoying buzzing, static, electric frequency sound when you press and release the brake pedal. It’s a little loud and annoying. Toyota said it’s normal but very annoying and haven’t offered to fix it. There’s a great write up on the issue which was difficult to find. The write up has pictures from the findings of the specialist from Toyota stating normal. It’s the SE Camry. Not hybrid. If you can put this out there it will help out many if Toyota chooses to fix the problem.
I love my 2021 SE. Great road trip car. It’s quiet and roomy. The only thing I don’t like is accelerating from a stop. The engine sounds unrefined and it’s loud.
Had this car as a rental, coming from a 19 Jetta sel-p I gotta say it rides very smooth and is very roomy inside, the interior is a disappointment tho it's missing the digital display, ambient lighting, bigger screen etc...
Is a top-trim Jetta a better option than this Passat? They both have heated and cooled seats in the front, and that's the main feature I'm looking for.
@@_clutchbite If you really need the extra space and don't mind the interior go for the Passat, a top trim Jetta is way better looking plus extremely good on gas
Have a 16 R line, used to drive 130 miles a day before lockdown. Great comfortable car if you need to commute and have a family. Space is huge inside and you are all but invisible to cops. 30+ mpg, 400+ miles per tank is nice also. If I were to get the 21 I would ask for old 19 inch wheels, these new ones are ugly.
@@thomasmacgruber6701 you know my car is over 21 years old here in germany. i average about 47mpg, although most of the time i drive on the autobahn to work, combined about 22miles. i sometimes measure consumption at higher speeds out of curiosity, normaly i drive around 60mph, at that time i drove around 93mph which is about 150kph and my cars mpg was around 40. over 20 years later what really has changed in the automotive industry? not much. possibly even got worse. not a personal attack on you btw.
@@accelerator5524 Our cars tend to have larger displacement engines and more horsepower, thus less mpg. On top of that, we drive larger vehicles on this side of the ocean, especially pickup trucks. Vehicles in Europe are usually smaller with tiny engines which means better MPG. Different preferences between North Americans and Europeans lead to different standards of "good MPG".
@@kevinnorris6558 1.8L, 2L and even 3L is kinda default displacement size even in the us nowadays. yes there are more cars in the us which are over 3L but even cars closer to 2L are, for whatever reason, stagnating in fuel consumption for 2 decades or such. but i mean you guys should slowy start with changing how you think about mgp. 30mpg is not nice nor is it ok. in 2020, for the american citizen only commuting to work and doing other basic things, mpg should be considered nice when its at least 45mpg
Ikr we had the 2009 Passat and traded it in for a 2019 Passat big difference and it seems like whenever you go fast in the 2019 it makes that weird downshifting noise
Looks 95% similar to my 2014 TSI. Even Jetta looks similar to Passat. I don't know why these design guys are dead from VW. Sad to see Passat getting discontinued from 2022.
Has topher said anything negative about any car? Everything has excellent ride quality. Good power. Great handling. Same thing on repeat. If you skip part of car name just listened to audio review they are all the same.
If they'd ramp up their appeal...maybe the sedans (dare I say a 2 door ) would sell better. I can't stand driving a bulkmobile (SUV/CUV/TRUCK). Too heavy and not very nimble in handling. Still like a low center of gravity and light car. Passat offers a terrific range and room. Handles better than it looks. Really, the big thing, would be a more responsive engine. IMHO, the 1.8 was better. They've a perfectly good 2.0 with 200+ hp. Why not use that engine in the Passat? GTI always comes across as expensive to me. Not that it is a bad vehicle, but it seems pricey. I'm not sold on the hatchback look. I had a CC and a Passat at the same time. I liked the Passat better: it's braking was better and was more tossable. The CC's brake pedal went to the floor (nearly) before you felt braking. That scared me a bit and in one incident on U.S. near Canton, MI almost resulted in me rear ending someone. But, the CC's driving nannies were much less intrusive. I would have preferred a merger of the two. The CC's looks and interior with the conventional automatic (over the DCT) and the larger fuel tank and better brake pedal operation.
Ah the US Passat. Or as I like to say: poor man's Passat. Honestly the EU Passat is actually one of the few VW's that actaully feel nicer than the competition.
doors feel flimsy. the handling feels out of control. turbo lag adds to out of control feel. why do people accept 4 cylinder turbo? hate that manufacturers went ot smaller engine turbo.
why does this car have a manual parking brake in 2021? 🤢🤢 my 2019 Golf R has an electronic one. the benefit of it is it turns on/off automatically. manual is so old school
Get a camry hybrid and you will feel that you don't need anything else for a while. Base 4 banger is an easy choice too. Don't buy this model since it's going to be dropped in the near future (getting parts usually is hard and expensive on a VW for some reason)
It feels like a failure compared to the competition. The interior is just dated, the exterior is nice but other than not an eye-catcher. For the price your better off with an Accord, Camry, and Mazda 6 since they are up to date with tech. I am not saying that it is a totally awful car just not a good value anymore in my opinion to the competition.
I'd actually say the interior is a high point for this car. It's old fashioned but nice and clean. Exterior agreed. And also agree that I'd take an Accord, Camry or Mazda 6 over this.
I mean it isn't bad but can't help but think it feels a little dated, also the ride they should have upgraded that in my opinion. Just is not class leading anymore but I think that's because they plan to discontinue this model.
(one of) the sad reason(s) most americans buy crappy suv's and cuv's, they just keep getting the crap version of nice, somewhat affordable normal cars that then don't sell We used to have a 240ps diesel passat in the family, just as the new one came out, and it was extremley nice and fairly inexpensive compared to a comparable E class or similar
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I had a 2019 Jetta SE and my wife had a 2020 Passat as a rental for work. After driving that I had to head to my dealer and check out one out as my lease was ending soon. I ended up going home with a 2022 Passat SE. The ride is so smooth on 18” wheels. The space inside is amazing, fuel economy is great, remote start, car net, and home link. It’s not the sportiest but it’s nice. I’m happy with it
Looking to upgrade after a really long time with my 2013 Jetta. Do you know if the Passat armrest slides forward like the adjustable armrests in last generation Jettas? Thank you in advance!
@@jakepatchogue9478 the armrest does slide forward I wish it would ratchet up like my old Jetta but it only slides
@@daviddesrosiers1300 yes I love the ratchet feature too, not sure why newer VWs are removing this feature. How is it on the road compared to Jetta? My 2013 Jetta is super stiff and you definitely feel every pothole
@@jakepatchogue9478 compared to my 19’ and 15’ Jetta’s I’d say it’s not as stiff. Not that it’s like a boat but it definitely feels more loose. And hitting a pothole with my winter tires is not as bad as my all seasons with the 18” wheels. So it all depends on what wheels and tires too
@@daviddesrosiers1300 Thank you! How is your fuel economy? Thanks again for your help
I have the 2017 Passat and from what you’ve shown not much has changed. Love your channel keep up the great work!
It really not change that much compared to my 2012
I have the 2020 model and yep, nothing has changed it seems. Except for that price tag!!! 😳
The only thing that they changed was the push button start. I have the 2017 passat r line and prefer that it has a key start
@@jrodriguez3594 i miss my r line , looking at a GLI or Arteon now.
This car is so sad coming from an European standpoint, it looks like my 2013 Passat. Hopefully you'll get the MQB Passat eventually.
Unfortunately we aren't. The passat is getting discontinued entirely after 2023
@@Harf2004 that's terrible news, the mqb passat is a great car
US gets the Arteon. That car is MQB based.
Agreed. Have one myself.
@@ervin7178 i guess, but it's a much worse value proposition than a passat.
I had a 2021 Passat Trendline while my GTI S was being serviced. I found the suspension to feel really floaty (like a boat basically), the brake pedal was indeed very assisted and hard to brake smoothly. The interior felt really cheap compared to the GTI. It was ok, but I was glad to get my GTI back the next day 😎
I still love my 2014 Passat 1.8 TSI manual, it's the best daily driver I can think of. I've driven across Canada and did 1200 km's with one tank with all my stuff in back and was able to fold the backseat and sleep in it! For the size, price and the driving dynamics I think it's a great car. It never gave me issues since day one and it's still going strong. I bought it new! Unfortunately i won't be able to replace it with another Passat. VW did not keep it up to date, they simply wanted to kill it for the market and that they did.
I love how sharp the RPM gauge changes, one of my favorite things about VW.
I have a 2016 model, it’s sad they haven’t changed much in 5 years. Guess I’ll keep driving my 2016 and eventually get something else when the time comes. That being said though mine has been a great car overall, roomy, comfortable and shockingly good on gas. The 1.8T packs a punch as well!
Why change ? It's just to drive . Safe your money
god i hope dodge gives you a charger hellcat sometime
The old VW interior looks so much better than the new capacitive touch bs.
This is definitely the car I want for my first car when I turn 16 in 5 months looks so good 😍
didn't watch the review yet but I already know it's gonna be good
I've driven a 16' Passat 1.8T and I really liked it in comparison to even the new Camry LE, Altima SV etc. I think the Kia K5 and Accord are the way to go.
That camera looks amazing in lowlight dude!
Agreed love the camera. 👌
This car seems like it will be pretty reliable. It doesn't seem special in any way but sometimes that is good. I would rather have something more interesting though. Simple is better in some cases however. Your insta camera did pretty well in this one... :)
The problem is that the better options are also reliable. If I wanted something boring and reliable, why not just go directly to the Toyota lot? Heck even the current gen Camry is a nice and more interesting vehicle. The Accord also similar interior space. The Mazda6 is on a similarly aged platform, but at least they updated the interior and features to keep it competitive. Mazda also recently topped CR’s reliability charts. Unfortunately this car makes no sense unless you’re a VW fan.
@@panzer_TZ That new Corolla looks so much better than this Passat or Jetta. This is coming from a European who grew up in a country where Passat was looked as the luxury car that was achievable for a regular person, so I obviously loved how it looked.
But compared to others in it’s class? Sonata N Line, Accord 2.0T, and Camry TRD are much more compelling buys for around the same price.
It has roughly the same number of components, why would it more reliable than other family sedan?
This is my dream car😍
Sameeee
Yea, or Volvo, or Jetta .
I think it looks nice, the interior too. And the Fender system sounds pretty good, a bit dark maybe, but could probably be EQ'd.
crazy that last years jetta looks more modern
I had 2016 r-line Passat and I loved it. But I traded it in for a Atlas. This doesn’t look much different from the 2016 facelift besides the backlights. I still like this model though.
I had a 2018 Passat that had the v6 engine. It was the best car I ever had until I got hit from behind which resulted in a loss. I test drove the 2020 Passat and I can honestly say it was no better than the 18. I wasn’t feeling it at all especially after they took the v6 out. Passat ain’t nothing anymore
They’ll be discontinuing the Passat here in the near future. I own a 2017 R Line Passat and it’s a very reliable car. It’s your standard roomy mid sized sedan with plastic everywhere. Got mine for $10k with 60k miles on it. 🤷🏻♂️
How has your Passat been?
@@mrbrowz1000101 going strong so far. I’m at 115k miles and no issues. Keeping up with maintenance will get you far with these European cars.
Topher is the best! I don’t know how people haven’t gotten sick and tired of Joe Raiti and his annoying hand gestures and stupid comments like “interior hotter than your date” 🤦♂️
the soft brake pedal is a thing with all newer volkswagens and it grinds my gears
Going to be test driving a leftover brand new 2020 SEL Premium in two days. Its been discounted down to $25,000, which I think is pretty good for the top trim of that year (it's MSRP was like $32,500). After watching this video I'm almost sure I'll be bringing it home. Its pretty much what I'm looking for and a price I want to spend on a new car.
Did you end up getting the car? Picked up a leftover 2020 Passat R-Line last year. Was $29,500, got it for $23,400. Best deal ever for a great car.
@@marcmaz21 I was so disappointed. I just couldn't fit in it totally comfortably. I'm tall and my legs were too long. I adjust the seat and steering wheel as best I could and I couldn't make it work. I really liked the look of the car and it was a screaming deal. I think if it had 8-way power seats instead of just 6-way I could have gotten comfortable. Every other midsize had 8-way power driver seats (and I ended up with a Subaru Legacy).
@@jeffmorse645 bro I’m 7’2” (yes actually) and I drive my moms all the time it’s really comfortable for me
@@habanero5.054 Everyone's built different. Height doesn't tell the whole story of each individual.
$25k for an SEL that makes this thing far more attractive. It may be behind in most categories but has tons of rear seat legroom/headroom, great sound system and near hybrid level fuel economy without being a hybrid.
I had the 5 cylinder oversees and now came back to the States and got the 4, what a drag!!!! going to jump the VW ship and look into honda or toyota.
Love our 2017 rline Passat. Love burning those goofy charges and challengers
Great second hand bargain if you can find one. They depreciate really fast
ill pass thanks
Good daily car imo
That’s why it’s a good first car I guess
@@VdiMusicGaming lookin for a first car wa s thinking about this one is it really
I have to ponder the difference the Giti tires make in overall satisfaction. I purchased my 2020 R line one year to the day of this writing. I test drove a R line with the Giti’s then drove my car with Falkens. I noticed right away mine was a bit sharper with the Falkens. I’ve owned several CPO BMWs and a Mercedes S430 and the Passat is by far my favorite!
Love my 2020 Passat R-Line. Not really fast but comfortable and big inside. Sexy looking car. Best thing is you don’t see very many on the road. Nice car.
Awesome Review Bro, Also This Car Is Definitely A Beauty 😎😎🔥🔥
This is definitely a forgotten car. Rarely seen on the road nor sells. Although it looks beautiful, its just old and outdated. VW needs to discontinue this car. Great review though!
Woooowwww, this car is just pure stoneage compared to what we have as a Passat here in Germany. Hopefully you'll get our Passat soon.
Passat is getting discontinued in the U.S. in 2023. So no, we aren’t getting it.
@@Addison0526 ahh, okay well that’s unfortunate.
We do get the Euro Passat here but it's called the Arteon. It is much much nicer than this one, but also has a pricetag that will give you pause.
@@jbm0866 no, the Arteon is a different car. We also have the Arteon here and it’s a step up from the Passat. The car in the video is Stone Age though
If your going to get a Passat get the tdi I’ve had 0 issues and it’s honestly kind of a fun car to drive with 240 lb of torque at only 1750 rpm and oh yea I 45 mpg on a bad day
That’s cool! Love the Passat. You get a lot from 30,000! Love your videos!
Thought the Giti tires were a joke but my local dealer carries them as an official tire. They're the cheapest of the three offered
I think VW makes some basic looking exteriors, but they work for me. Also, please fix the radio power button. OCD!
Same!!! That has always drove me crazy.
The gauges look dope
Really? I thought they looked dated and pretty sad. To each their own.
The Passat is a lot like the Acura ILX in a sense. Facelifted and still a quality vehicle, but in need of a redesign. Has the modern features you want and updated exteriors, but the interiors still feel dated regardless of the tech in them. This comes from a 2019 Acura ILX Tech A-Spec owner.
It's been left behind because it's being discontinued. EU spec can have nappa leather, digital cockpit, diff, dcc etc. Arteon is the replacement
It seems like a good car, but gotta give kudos to Kia and Hyundai for flexing so hard in this space. More power, more tech, for less money (I'm thinking the K5, Elantra N-Line, etc).
Until the engine explodes..
@@alh06 What? What's your source? Kia and Hyundai are well known for being quite reliable, and are ranked quite a bit higher than VW (and have way better warranties).
I'd be much more concerned about VW reliability vs Kia or Hyundai-VWs are great if you're leasing, but can be a total disaster if not (DSG transmissions, for example).
My dsg has been amazing the, engine on the other hand tho...
@@candyvan6663 Ah that’s good re: the DSG! I think if they’re taken care of and serviced as they should they’re fine. Bummer about the engine troubles...
@@thrillhousecycling7260 Literally google it, they had to recall tens of thousands of cars in Korea and the US for fire risk. I like the new Kias and Hyundai’s and am concerned about Volkswagen reliability but there are some issues with both.
Curious -- your comment that the trunk isn't as roomy as it used to be -- compared to what year? I had a 2014 Passat TDI that was totaled by a rear-ender, so I moved into a 2022 Passat Limited. The trunk liner (the carpeted one with the Velcro corner blocks to hold cargo) from my 2014 fits perfectly, so the trunk size is identical at least to the previous platform.
Damn 2021 volkswagen interior looks the same as every other previous year besides carplay
How better u want it??? Damn , need a car to drive only . Get over yourself
@@Moodboard39 how better? Yeah cars are meant to be driven, but you’d expect after years their design language in the interior would be innovated besides the exterior? I’m sure you’ve noticed that other companies try their best to update the cars interior through out the years and in different generations too, you’d think after watching a car channel you’d notice that too right? It’s just an observation bro, chill out and get over YOURSELF.
Great video, as always. Do you recall if the Passat armrest slides forward, like the adjustable armrest in older generation Jettas?
I just rented a Passat in ATL and it was an R-Line. The armrest does not slide forward.
Did u find the steering wheel is not perfectly aligned? They come like that from factory which sucks. Its on my 2017 Passat tho.
2:05 You hit the nail on the head. They used to feel special, not anymore. I really don’t know what happened to VW, especially in North America. I’ve lost faith in VW almost entirely and I own a 2019 Golf. Sadly I very likely won’t be buying another VW car.
Can you please expose this issue with the 2020/19/18 Camry (non-hybrid). There’s a post about it. Make sure the car is on, all windows up so you can hear, no AC or music on. It needs to be really quiet. There’s an annoying buzzing, static, electric frequency sound when you press and release the brake pedal. It’s a little loud and annoying. Toyota said it’s normal but very annoying and haven’t offered to fix it. There’s a great write up on the issue which was difficult to find. The write up has pictures from the findings of the specialist from Toyota stating normal. It’s the SE Camry. Not hybrid. If you can put this out there it will help out many if Toyota chooses to fix the problem.
I'm the one that exposed it, red fury on Toyota nation forum.
I love my 2021 SE. Great road trip car. It’s quiet and roomy. The only thing I don’t like is accelerating from a stop. The engine sounds unrefined and it’s loud.
That’s the best part of the car
A loud acceleration, wish my car had it but it doesn’t
Had this car as a rental, coming from a 19 Jetta sel-p I gotta say it rides very smooth and is very roomy inside, the interior is a disappointment tho it's missing the digital display, ambient lighting, bigger screen etc...
Is a top-trim Jetta a better option than this Passat? They both have heated and cooled seats in the front, and that's the main feature I'm looking for.
@@_clutchbite If you really need the extra space and don't mind the interior go for the Passat, a top trim Jetta is way better looking plus extremely good on gas
i love your videos
The cabin looks pretty organized while noticing its outdated infotainment platform.
Have a 16 R line, used to drive 130 miles a day before lockdown. Great comfortable car if you need to commute and have a family. Space is huge inside and you are all but invisible to cops. 30+ mpg, 400+ miles per tank is nice also. If I were to get the 21 I would ask for old 19 inch wheels, these new ones are ugly.
i dont know whats wrong with the us, where 30mpg is considered good xD
Sorry, closer to 37, but I guess there is something wrong with us U.S.
@@thomasmacgruber6701 you know my car is over 21 years old here in germany. i average about 47mpg, although most of the time i drive on the autobahn to work, combined about 22miles.
i sometimes measure consumption at higher speeds out of curiosity, normaly i drive around 60mph, at that time i drove around 93mph which is about 150kph and my cars mpg was around 40.
over 20 years later what really has changed in the automotive industry? not much. possibly even got worse.
not a personal attack on you btw.
@@accelerator5524 Our cars tend to have larger displacement engines and more horsepower, thus less mpg. On top of that, we drive larger vehicles on this side of the ocean, especially pickup trucks. Vehicles in Europe are usually smaller with tiny engines which means better MPG. Different preferences between North Americans and Europeans lead to different standards of "good MPG".
@@kevinnorris6558 1.8L, 2L and even 3L is kinda default displacement size even in the us nowadays.
yes there are more cars in the us which are over 3L but even cars closer to 2L are, for whatever reason, stagnating in fuel consumption for 2 decades or such.
but i mean you guys should slowy start with changing how you think about mgp. 30mpg is not nice nor is it ok.
in 2020, for the american citizen only commuting to work and doing other basic things, mpg should be considered nice when its at least 45mpg
Could you get your hands on a manual m4? Really want to see your feedback/driving on one
If this car had the SEL trim, a digital dash, the whole shebang, would the power be ok?
Yes; 276hp V6.
When are you doing a bmw 530i?
R-Line? 174hp? Come on.
USA moment 💀
I have bought passat elegance 2020 -2.0TSI-190HP, TOP! and it looks much better and richer
When making a left turn, why does the left turn signal flashes a red light?
Could you do a 2021 Jetta R-Line?
Until he said something about the transmission, I thought it was a CVT.. the way how it holds revs.. weird..
Ikr we had the 2009 Passat and traded it in for a 2019 Passat big difference and it seems like whenever you go fast in the 2019 it makes that weird downshifting noise
Looks 95% similar to my 2014 TSI. Even Jetta looks similar to Passat. I don't know why these design guys are dead from VW. Sad to see Passat getting discontinued from 2022.
How’s this compare to a fusion or Lexus ES?
Sweet ride!
No digital cockpit? Should be standard on r line
Didn't VAG group switch to white backlit switches a few years ago, my '15 GTI definitely had white
the cheaper ones have the red backlight for some reason, you can see that this one also has the old stalks
Waht is VW doing here in North America, the Passat you get in America and Canada still use mechanical hand brake.
@Jonathan A agrees.
will you ever review the stinger and the elantra n line?
Has topher said anything negative about any car? Everything has excellent ride quality. Good power. Great handling. Same thing on repeat. If you skip part of car name just listened to audio review they are all the same.
He wasn't overly positive about this one. I'd say he was pretty critical actual.
Did you not watch this review? He made many criticisms.
I was hoping they would have at least raised the screen higher. It’s a lil annoying having to look so low.
If they'd ramp up their appeal...maybe the sedans (dare I say a 2 door ) would sell better. I can't stand driving a bulkmobile (SUV/CUV/TRUCK). Too heavy and not very nimble in handling. Still like a low center of gravity and light car. Passat offers a terrific range and room. Handles better than it looks. Really, the big thing, would be a more responsive engine. IMHO, the 1.8 was better. They've a perfectly good 2.0 with 200+ hp. Why not use that engine in the Passat? GTI always comes across as expensive to me. Not that it is a bad vehicle, but it seems pricey. I'm not sold on the hatchback look. I had a CC and a Passat at the same time. I liked the Passat better: it's braking was better and was more tossable. The CC's brake pedal went to the floor (nearly) before you felt braking. That scared me a bit and in one incident on U.S. near Canton, MI almost resulted in me rear ending someone. But, the CC's driving nannies were much less intrusive. I would have preferred a merger of the two. The CC's looks and interior with the conventional automatic (over the DCT) and the larger fuel tank and better brake pedal operation.
Hi,TheTopher
Can you do a review on the 2011 Skoda Octavia 1.4 TSI?
its not available in North America
I hate where VW decided to put the USB and 12volt ports. They are totally in the way and get bumped constantly
If we compared it with mazda6 and accord, which one would you pick??
VW Passat💪
Passat R-Line is probably the best deal out there that nobody is buying. Love my car!!
Put cts cold air intake in your Passat ant it will sound good with a woosh woosh, anyways I always enjoy the Passat
Volkswagen doors always sounds hollow when they close strange
Hopefully they update the start up chime
Ah the US Passat. Or as I like to say: poor man's Passat. Honestly the EU Passat is actually one of the few VW's that actaully feel nicer than the competition.
The Passat sedan will also be discontinued in Europe, leaving the wagon the only bodystyle that will live on.
Compare this to what mazda is putting out - interior wise.
thought that was my car beeping at :08 lol
I'm suprised that you guys are still use old passat.
Where does he find all these empty parking lots?
Great car
doors feel flimsy. the handling feels out of control. turbo lag adds to out of control feel. why do people accept 4 cylinder turbo? hate that manufacturers went ot smaller engine turbo.
Regálamela plis 😊❤
How did we go from Passats with W8 engines to this??? Ugh.
Yeah feels so weird
can you do a vid on the 2017 passat se tech pkg or an sel premium
I don’t understand why they didn’t redesign the Passat long ago they literally just gave up on it after 2015
seems like it's noisy inside? Isn't it?
Like a citroen elysee :)
lol I have one from 2003 and its got 190 HP, its a killer
Passat is going bye bye pretty soon. the car lived a pretty sad life in the US tbh after 2007 or so
The 2006-2010 is actually really good and that is the last good Passat model then they got cheap
why does this car have a manual parking brake in 2021? 🤢🤢 my 2019 Golf R has an electronic one. the benefit of it is it turns on/off automatically. manual is so old school
Sad to see VW let the Passat wither on the vine :( Just step up to a base Arteon if you gotta have a VW midsize sedan.
Yep, I was surprised how much nicer the Arteon was to drive
What's better this or a Camry?
Get a camry hybrid and you will feel that you don't need anything else for a while. Base 4 banger is an easy choice too. Don't buy this model since it's going to be dropped in the near future (getting parts usually is hard and expensive on a VW for some reason)
The vw may last to 100k without issue if you get lucky. The Camry 300k. You can't beat Toyotas reliability.
If the EU spec VW Passat came to the US then that would be better but the Camry is def better than this US spec Passat.
It feels like a failure compared to the competition. The interior is just dated, the exterior is nice but other than not an eye-catcher. For the price your better off with an Accord, Camry, and Mazda 6 since they are up to date with tech. I am not saying that it is a totally awful car just not a good value anymore in my opinion to the competition.
I'd actually say the interior is a high point for this car. It's old fashioned but nice and clean. Exterior agreed. And also agree that I'd take an Accord, Camry or Mazda 6 over this.
I mean it isn't bad but can't help but think it feels a little dated, also the ride they should have upgraded that in my opinion. Just is not class leading anymore but I think that's because they plan to discontinue this model.
Can u do the 2021 jetta r line too
Did he called the spoiler a handler for the trunk ?? lol 😂
No.. Theres an acutal handle on the inside of the trunk..
Nice Jetta I Have One :)
(one of) the sad reason(s) most americans buy crappy suv's and cuv's, they just keep getting the crap version of nice, somewhat affordable normal cars that then don't sell
We used to have a 240ps diesel passat in the family, just as the new one came out, and it was extremley nice and fairly inexpensive compared to a comparable E class or similar
is this 2014? this is the one of cars that will lose around 50% its value/looks so old once the new model comes out.
forgot to show the engine
the car doesn't sell well and they don't spend money or do anything to attract buyers... its a self fulfilling prophecy