FASTEST RESAMPLING TECHNIQUE EVER!?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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Notes for this tutorial:
Download MRecorder in the MFreeFXBundle here: www.meldaprodu...
I didn't mention you can select the "Append number to the filename" option in MRecorder to avoid having to rename everytime, so be aware, that's an option (and will be even faster).
Note: I didn't mention you can select the "Append number to the filename" option in MRecorder to avoid having to rename everytime, so be aware, that's an option (and will be even faster).
I thought about writing a little ps script to do that until i saw that comment :D nice tip, ty! :)
Hey man, i do stuff like this in FL all the time and its super easy, you dont need Mrecorder because you have Edison built into FL.
I really wish someone like SeamlessR would sit down with you and show you how amazing FL studio is. Somewhere someone said you did a twitch stream where you used FL, and i cant find it anywhere!
Great tip. I've been using the Quick Recorder max device to do the exact same thing. Saved in default template and keymapped as well. Only have to set the file path once at the start of each project and then re are resampling the entire session. 👏 maxforlive.com/library/device/6163/quick-recorder
@@itsbrex anyway to have it automatically set the file-path to the current project folder every time a new session is created
@@user-yo1cv2me5l FL is amazing, but it isn't without its workflow flaws. I still wish I was able to change the keyboard shortcuts without needing AutoHotKey. Been asking for that for years...
As an FL user this makes me appreciate Edison so much more. Love Ableton too (automatic routing and infinite mixer tracks? hell yeah!)
That or you can just move the part you want to record to a different spot in the playlist (anywhere) and then you don't have to mute anything.
Just moved to ableton and missing alt+R ngl
Sameee. I think you can use it in Ableton if you have a certain bundle, but only on PC 😞
Yeah, the "record on input" option would be really nice here
Yeah I was thinking this method is pretty much what I already do in FL using edison. It is still too slow imo, I often avoid doing this and just try to quickly find a sample that gets me to a similar place. I don't want to F around in edison to get one specific thing.
MRecorder has two other features that will make your sampling process even faster:
1. It will trim silence at the beginning and end of your sample, using the "trim threshold" setting in the post processing section.If you're working digitally, you can set the threshold to -199 dB by double-clicking it. All your recordings will now be perfectly trimmed.
2. There's a little "WAV" button with an arrow in the big bottom recording panel, where it shows the time and size of the file. Drag that button and drop it wherever you want, and it's just like dragging a file from the browser.
finally an easy way to grab artifacts that only take place after u hit stop holy shit
Exactly my thoughts!
guys, i hate to say it but ive been doing this with FL for years! lol
@@user-yo1cv2me5l why’d you say it then lmao
Wait are you actually subtronics lmao ?
@@borrasca because FL is better ;)
Ableton really needs to implement a proper bounce in place. Something that's in non-realtime like Logic, Studio One, etc. Select a clip or part of a clip, use a key command and just bounce that portion to a new track. It's the most requested feature currently.
Have they?
@@va941 nope.
@@kenporter6059 then, fuck em.
@@kenporter6059 ah, happy bitwiggler 😂
On a related note, you can record into the Ableton Looper device when the transport is stopped. I felt like Mr. Bill just a little when I figured that out. I used it to record the scrubbing back and forth in Melodyne.
yo thank you for this! gonna try this method out soon
Oh shiet, never thought to try this. Nice idea!
@@MrBillsTunes I’m honored to help sir, thanks for all your tutorials and unique ideas!
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I think I figured this out in my head after not really producing all year, I just pictured the record button in Looper and though maybe, just maybe... And it worked! By that time I already switched to Bitwig though so I just use Edison's vst but I want something simpler and native to bitwig for this purpose
Thanks for the tip! You can also freeze the track and drag the region you want to a new audio track which flattens it without flattening the source track.
THank you
From someone who moved to bitwig I was actually hoping ableton adopted bounce in place. It’s a killer feature that streamlines resampling super efficiently
I still use Edison in Bitwig
@@notificationsareblocked.yo53 didn’t know you made the switch! Any reason why you favor Edison?
@@notificationsareblocked.yo53 any ideas how to make edison non-demo version on ableton? or to record? I can drag samples in and out of it, but not able to record
I usually just duplicate the track, remove what isn't necessary, and then Freeze and Flatten.
this
Same
That's great, except when you're 3 minutes into a song, and freezing it takes +30 seconds because it has to render the entire track.
@@flyingpopsicle1075 time to upgrade your hardware if that’s the case!
@@billyshakespeare1696 Hah! Or perhaps you need to scale up your projects!
the ability to record after the playhead has stopped is what sold this to me
Thought I was the only one who wanted to record the remnants.
Those free Melda effects are simply fire. Definitely gonna use this in making mudpies...maybe resample just starting and stopping ableton :) Thanks Bill!
FL users automatically can do this with Edison, it even auto-detects when you hit play/audio starts and will remove the silence at the beginning of the recording.
you can use edison in ableton , and its free if you know the way
@@fjkldhakljf everything's free if you know the way, also you cant get it anymore as image line have dropped support for vst versions of their synths and effects
@@penisdubs NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wait when did image line drop vet support? I use Edison in Ableton coz I missed it when switching from FL and I only bought it near the end of last year.
I always have an edison on the "current channel" .. so that I can just record everthing I want on the fly from the channel I have highlighted... and then just drag and drop it out of edison where ever I want it
Made me appreciate Bitwig's bounce features a whole lot more :)
Maybe a little file/folder tip, if you hold shift and right click on a file or folder you can select "copy as path" very handy as you don't have to go up and click in the explore path to see first the path and than select to copy. You have to look 3/4 down in the right click menu to find it.
Dude, there were situations u couldn't record the tale properly when Ableton transport stopped, this even solved that issue too, genius
I wonder if you can use wildcards in the naming scheme to have it grab the track name and shit...this is a great tool, Bill!
Glad I wasn't the only person thinking this. It doesn't say anything about it in the manual so you might be able to do something OS-side.
Excellent! It's perfect for us Windows users as we aren't able to drag samples from our project into wavetable editors (like Serum or Vital) as Ableton is currently using them. The Mrecorder will eliminate that problem as it creates a completely new file you can drag into the wavetable editor.
Freeze is still very effective method to do bounce in place with dragging highlighted freezed stuff into a new track. The only disadvantage if the freezed track is a way too long, entire track would be freezed and that can steal a bit of time. But hey you don't even need a browser or any additional setup to do that.
Another disadvantage is that you still have the issue of the reverb tail colliding with the next sample, so you'll have to go through and mute stuff and unmute it afterwards again, and if the you're using a plugin on the track that is something thicc like a Kontakt patch, the unfreeze might take a while.
Just got ableton and was getting frustrated with the bouncing process. This is gonna make learning so much easier
soooo... to finish the video I'm just gonna drop hot hot heat nonchalantly. Such fire. Thanks MrB.
Melda is so dope!! I had no idea this was in that d/l. There Ring mod is crazy sick also
edison does it WAY better, you can get it if you buy the image line vst bundle. edison is beyond all other audio recorders, it does so much and really revolutionizes the way you resample.
Very cool, the bounce in place is one of the things I miss moving from Logic to Ableton. Gonna try this workflow now thanks :D
I love how Mr Bill skin colour matches perfectly the door; so glad he's a fellow vitamin D deficency
omg! you binded the record button to tilda! you are a genius!!!
Very cool! I’ve had a lot of annoyances with resembling in Ableton, the fact that mrecorder can be key mapped is the best piece of this.
I know an even faster method, but it's not free.
You can use a recorder by Image Line, called Edison. There is a vst version of it.
You can set it up to automatically start recording on play, reducing filesize compared to toggling it with a hotkey. But you'd still have to arm it.
The best part is that it has the option to drag and drop the recorded sample directly into your daw. In that case it will save the audio file in Edisons installation path with automated cryptic filenames.
You can also save the file manually, which will result in almost the same workflow you currently have.
It's an editor, so you could make last second adjustments to the file with fades etc.
Nice alternative for the M4L BiP plugin.
I do this in bitwig, with edison, and in my case the record button is controlled by an envelope macro so that it starts and stops recording on it's own, you just load the rack and press play and drag your reverse verb onto a new track
Lmao i literally just commented the same thing i do it in bitwig with edison. Bitwigs bounce is another great way of doing it if you dont plan on saving it in a folder
@@notificationsareblocked.yo53 oh but you can do that easily!
Just start dragging from that drag out button in edison, and a file of the selection will be created in
C:\Program Files\Image Line\Edison\Project Data
you can symlink this folder to a more accessible location and voilà (any audio you start dragging from edison is created there as a file instantly)
For everyone who thinks Freezing and flattening is better. Imagine being 3 minutes into a song, and it takes +30 seconds for the entire track to freeze, this becomes a much better alternative.
One isn’t better than the other, it’s purely preference. I don’t think waiting +30 seconds is a problem. I regularly wait +10 minutes for entire mixes to render. If you don’t have much time, this method seems cool, but the convenience of Freeze and Flatten is that the sample renders in place, which I prefer.
There's a lot of cool plugins in that giant free Melda bundle
For single tracks, freezing & flattening also works surprisingly well! But I can see a few applications where this could be more useful
Doesn’t seem like less work but probably if you do a lot of this within one project, it can save you a lot of time. Cheers!
You could set it up in your master channel by default, and with a key map you almost don't need to do a single thing other than map the file destination. If you have a certain effect you do this with all the time (like a reverb) you could keymap that as well and have both the reverb and the recorder turn on when you press the hotkey, then off at the same time when you're done recording. 10 seconds to set up to not have to do it again while you work on the project saves loads of time than setting up a resampling track everytime.
I haven't checked in in a long time, and your music has really improved. That sample is sick.
Love Perfect Circuit! Great tip on the recording, looks way less tedious than the "normal" method I've been using. Thx.
Bitwig: select region, bounce in place. Under a second. What is Ableton doing? Surely they have the resources to implement this?
Love you Mr. Bill!! Much love from Chicago in the USA!
is there another Chicago?
You changed my life , good sire. Thank you ☺️. It will solve a lot of my problems !!!!! Including resampling across a bunch of VSTs that often require only .wav files and what not.
MRecorder is good if it's the only option but Edison is way better and lets you do so much more editing before saving and you can even drag from Edison itself directly into a sampler. I use it as a VST inside of Bitwig. The only place you can find it now is off kvr and you need to be on Windows.
Yoo. This is exactly what I was looking for!
Track sounds sick
Thanks. Def a useful tip. But also a glaring example of Ableton mismanagement. Bounce in place is a professionals tool, yet they offer these new pling-plong plugins instead. Live 11 tells a story of bloated complacency. Comping is great, but c’mon! Max For Live has become their BIG excuse for not taking risks. Ableton should be right there on the razors edge, yet they’re looking more and more like IKEA.
Such a boss. Thanks for the tip!
master channel strg+A ->strg+g -> press 0. record it. go master channel press zero again (if you want to go back to production mode ). if i do this mutliple times i just put it on a key command, so you don't even have to go back to the master channel. thats way faster imho.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Ooooh also couldn't vibe with BIP though I appreciate it. Keen to try this!
Recording independent of transport controls sounds fun. in loads of my tunes stopping transport randomly leaves really cool send fx tails which vary depending on where you stop. Never been sure how to best capture it, this looks like the solution :-)
I always send everything to a separate track called "premaster" - and that track is sending to the Master bus. For resampling purposes I just solo the track in question, record-enable that premaster track (Audio From: "No Input", Monitor: "In") and hit record. It won´t be faster than that.
I do the same trick with NI Guitar Rig. It has built in recorder
I have to say, this method looks like way more effort than typical Ableton methods. Creating a folder, making a file name, point to folder. Interesting. 😜
jesus that loop at the end though
I also mapped ~ to show show/hide plugin, so I know that for sure it's recording
Mr. Bill always bringing the killer tips
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thanks
My Method - 100% WET FX you want on X Return. For longer stuff Send what u want to X return. Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R and select the return as the render track. Name it what u know it will be like "rev guitar". Save to project root. Organized. Fast. Drag in rendered sample from "Current Project" on left. No need for extra folder.
If it's a short sample, send to x return (you can map this too for quick on off), solo that return, and use your resampling track to capture. You can avoid getting things further down the track into the delay network by just sending what u want at that moment to the FX. Mapped buttons work fine for this if you need it to be super accurate and fast but usually really just the mouse is good enough.
Other methods I used to use - If it's audio duplicate clip and open in external editor (adobe audition pre ver 2 or cool edit pro open in less than a second). Perform all destructive editing there with saved shortcuts. So you can have a saved reverb shortcut and then reverse with shortcut and alt tab back to DAW. That whole process takes about 4 seconds as its all offline but it has to originate from an audio clip and you don't get vsts in cool edit. Use Later Adobe audition for vst support but longer load times. I am fine with Audition 1.5 reverb for reverse reverbs its not going to sound "real" anyway.
Another audio only method is have tracks with fx you want and drag the clip to that track then render with that track soloed. Drag in from side as described above. It's only for audio but more explicit than the sends. After 20 years of doing this shit that first method is all I use now though as its universal / works with MIDI tracks and it requires no extra setup as I have all the FX I want on returns anyway. If you want hyper optimized speed and its audio use the 3rd method with external editor.
It's not in time though, you need it to line up perfectly if you're bouncing a whole group. New audio track and set input to resample does the job for me.
thank you Mr. Bill, very cool.
Bitwig is King at this.
This would be great for recording sounds out of fracture by glitchmachines
Thank you for this. It's one of the main reasons why I miss using Logic honestly, all you had to do was select a number of regions in the arrangement-window (could be both midi and audio) and just press ctrl + B and you're done. A new track with the bounced audio is created. Wish Ableton had that feature.
if u right click on a track and hit freeze then after it loads u right click again and hit flatten it does the trick and quite efficiently idk why not many ppl are talking abt this or if im missing something.
@@vaina2 Like Mr Bill said in comment below, it's a pain if you're working on bigger projects and have to freeze a whole track. That could take a long time to render. And you can only freeze and flatten one track a time I think? So you can't bounce multiple tracks to one audio file.
I guess you could just use the "resampling"-mode to record the output of several tracks ... but then you also have to solo the specific tracks you want to record and also bypass all the plugins on the master (since "resampling" just records the output of the master channel).
In Logic you only have to select the the regions you want to bounce and press ctrl + B and all the work is done for you. And only takes like 1 second. Which is quite handy if resampling is a big part of your workflow.
You can simply create a new track and change the routing to resampling and then record the signal coming from the master buss. You don't need to flatten anything or do fansy stuff. 2 clicks and it's done....
You can even record only what's coming from the sends, delays, reverbs etc..
@@christophpetersart3803 Yeah thats what I wrote, read my second comment :)
There is a free max4live device called Quix Audio Recorder that does the same thing but a lot more visually and has some editing capabilities like Edison. Wanted to help out and let y'all know just google Quix Audio Recorder max4live it isn't glitchy at all it works great
Awesome tip !
Wow in cubase they made it super easy. Render in place select option insert in project...viola... im now learning ableton too and that part is really annoying.
Holy crap this is amazing for sound design sessions where I just wanna record some sounds :D
Any reason you don’t freeze and then alt/option drag into a new audio channel? Freeze is effectively a bounce in place no?
Much easier than recording after enabling resampling like your original method.
A few reasons.
1. It's slower on bigger sessions (which I mostly deal with)
2. You can't render artifacts that way
3. You can't name your sound-design that way, they just get named something like "Freeze 10978460.wav" which is annoying if you're trying to find something later
@@MrBillsTunes Fair enough!
I kinda wish MRecorder would have the option to stall. Perfect example is in Audacity, when you hit the red button, it will wait until it hears sound to record instantly. That way you have perfectly timed recording instead of having silence at the beginning.
It has a similar feature - trim threshold, in the post-processing. You set a threshold, and Recorder will trim anything at the beginning and end of the file that falls below that threshold. If you're working digitally, you can set the threshold to -199 dB by double-clicking it. All your recordings will now be perfectly trimmed.
@@PatMaddox amazing! Thank you!
Maybe you should put a de-esser on your new mic set up????
Technically though, bounce in place should be happening faster than realtime audio playback. So in this case, you are still waiting for the audio to record in its entirety. But I do appreciate how it solves the reverb tail issue..
Then it should be called "render in place", because bouncing means to record the playback
@@sanjacobs6261 From a historical standpoint, yes. But those terms have become quite interchangeable in modern DAWs e.g. bounce in place is literally “rendering” in Logic Pro X.
Anyway i should mention that what i meant was basically an offline bounce vs a real-time one.
@@deepzenpills8571 Sadly, that's true. They've gotten all mixed up. A good few DAWs like Reaper do differentiate between bouncing and rendering, luckily, because the difference between the terms is actually useful :)
God bless Edison in FL :D
On the Mac you use Audio HiJack Pro, I use this tools since years, it records everything from a app or simply the system audio...
Did you ever end up releasing this track? these sounds are mighty tasty
Hey, I really like your videos! Very good job. Can you tell me what model your headphones are? thanks
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Oh god all my money goes to perfect circuit.
Good stuff man...thanks!
Why not just freeze the track? Is there some drawback in doing thing this way? Thanks!
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logic selection-based treatment guys!! definitely my favorite feature in Logic and almost no video about using it creatively on youtube :3
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An Edison for Live? Awesooome!!
I just use Edison as a 3rd party vst
I didn't realize you couldn't bounce in place in Live? I still haven't found a good reason to leave Logic yet... but i still want to learn Ableton 😂
is it possible to highlight 4beat loop inside simpler, and drag and drop that loop to a clip or to a linear track? basically a super fast way to grab chunks of audio ?
thats why Bitwig is Boss !
I just want to say your song shepherding ut00b has pretty much changed the way I look at music in a good way lmao
very nice....why not keep the thing recording all the time ...
Amazing !
FL studio users: Hit Shift+E on a reverb send track and it'll record your wet sound when you hit play. And then just drag the sample back into the track. :)
Yeah or Ableton could just add bip... I mean how long will it take, it doesn't seem like a difficult feature to build.
Well jesus! How long did it take them to do comping!?
Yea that’s cool. But even easier to just buy Edison put it on the master, hit record on it and drag and drop it. Simples
Agreed. I've since found Edison. It's nuts
I have an issue with this wherein when previewing the newly created file in Ableton's browser, it plays back 6db quieter (so you have to turn the preview volume up 6 db to match what you created). If you drag it into the project however, the volume is the same. Odd
extremely useful - like you are
Still too many steps for me, I always just duplicated the track I wanted to resample, add the effects Im thinking of, freeze the resample track then flatten.
Why not just freeze?
Isn't it faster to just duplicate the track, throw the reverb on it, delete the clips you don't need, and then freeze+flatten it?
not if you're doing many resamples in one session
@@jesse9999999 Not sure I follow. What does the quantity of resamples have to do with the speed/efficiency of one method vs the other?
@@darloscanger3942 with the method bill has shown of placing a disabled effect or chain on the master before MRecorder, you can solo any track or group of tracks in the session, turn on that rack and immediately record the effected signal. If you were just doing that with one track, the speed would be about the same with freeze/flatten vs MRecorder, but if you're copying the chain over and over again to the next track you're doing the effect on, it would be quicker to do it straight through the master in this way.
Also not if you're looking to grab tail information from the wet signal after the playhead stops
What about duplicate , freeze and flatten
We've already gone over that. The biggest criteria for Mr Bill is that when you're working with 150 175 + track sessions, it takes a while to freeze and flatten. He says about 45 seconds
Coming from studio one
This is a Band-Aid
They need to implement BIP…
FL Studios user are probably feeling superior for having Edson by default for this kind of "fast resample"
FL taking the lead 🔥🔥
Why not freeze track , create new track and ctrl+drag?