Go to Therapy or We're Over feat. David So | Lovers and Friends Ep. 36

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
  • When was the last time your significant other gave you an ultimatum? When was the last time you gave them an ultimatum?
    In this episode, Shan sits down with Comedian, Actor, and Filmmaker, David So. He breaks down what led him to this breaking point and ultimately how this ultimatum impacted their relationship.... for better or worse?
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Комментарии • 127

  • @elvisjoelle
    @elvisjoelle Год назад +151

    “it’s not that she’s a bad person or i’m a bad person. we were just speaking two different languages” YES

  • @JavierSantos08
    @JavierSantos08 Год назад +315

    Get Mariel on HURRRR! By herself & a segment with them both would be dope!

  • @indira2484
    @indira2484 Год назад +200

    We love David! He’s so articulate, self-aware, mature and relatable. Fantastic guest

  • @eliediaz
    @eliediaz Год назад +14

    Crazy how much our childhood traumas plays a part in our adult relationships.

  • @nicolegallant4717
    @nicolegallant4717 Год назад +131

    Shan, if there is one thing I have learned from you is listening to other peoples 'whatever they're going through' and not projecting yours onto them. And that takes a lot. I continue to learn from you and your guests. Thank you so much. It doesn't sound like a mouthful but it is so helpful. Thank you.

  • @lexd9805
    @lexd9805 Год назад +63

    David made me laugh so hard. I’m happy for him and that he was able to make amends

  • @ChanelStar1
    @ChanelStar1 Год назад +47

    *I've definitely given an ex this ultimatum. Him talking to his pastor cousin who would then judge him and tell the family his business was no longer enough. I'm like baby you need help processing. Prayer isn't enough you have to do the work.*

    • @Chococat_Ariana
      @Chococat_Ariana Год назад +2

      🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌Preach🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
      (Pun not intended)

  • @taniapinedo4905
    @taniapinedo4905 Год назад +35

    David is such an articulate person.. its very captivating to hear him talk . Loved this episode with David

  • @cyraoh6420
    @cyraoh6420 Год назад +18

    This honestly was the best episode I’ve seen. My partner and I are SO SO similar to David and Mariel…and it has put so many things into perspective, just amazing and eye opening

  • @hightunnel2723
    @hightunnel2723 Год назад +19

    I relate to David so much and I never knew it. I’m constantly self-assessing cause I grew up a certain way and I’m still learning things that are okay and not okay. It’s not something I consciously do inside my mind, it’s something I tell myself which is “I’m not always right, how do I keep an open mind and be receptive to the people who love me”
    This helps develop my perspective at different angles and one of the best realizations of my life. Truly

  • @cerebralraven
    @cerebralraven Год назад +14

    What a lovely episode. Please bring him back! He is just so honest

  • @chelsearenae9384
    @chelsearenae9384 Год назад +13

    Shan, you look absolutely gorgeous!!!!!!!!

  • @brianasilaphet
    @brianasilaphet Год назад +25

    I have never resonated with a podcast episode currently more than this one. You spoke facts in your opening prelude and your reference to Will Smith's gardener/flower analogy was amazing!! Thank you for such an insightful episode

  • @lexd9805
    @lexd9805 Год назад +20

    Shan I support your new shift it’s exactly where you are suppose to be. Praying nothing but blessings over your family ❤️

  • @ailynnmckae1130
    @ailynnmckae1130 Год назад +19

    Hi Shan, I hope you are cutting yourself some slack and celebrating every step you take whether you see it big or small. You are truly talented and I am thankful of your podcast. I watch so many episodes and somehow you manage to light up each guest and avoid awkward moments which genuinely is a talent and skill. Enjoy Columbia and your family, don’t feel guilty for taking care of your self and your loved ones!

  • @cathybrown5383
    @cathybrown5383 Год назад +10

    David and Shan! The ultimate duo!

  • @harmowknee
    @harmowknee Год назад +11

    I've always loved me some David! Whew baby, so many things mentioned here that I have inspired me to look into because this was brutally honest in the most beautiful way.

  • @EvolvingMama_
    @EvolvingMama_ Год назад +31

    Thoroughly enjoyed this 🙌🏾 I love seeing David solo. He’s as emotionally intelligent as he is hilarious 😄
    I gave my husband the same plea for many years. Yeahhhh didn’t go well. Single mom of 3 now😅 fast forward a year later and we’ve been In individual therapy which helps with coparenting🤞🏾 I wish we would have gone 10 years ago 😮‍💨
    ETA : Also I love your self reflection at the end Shan 🫂 when you said “my kids” 🥲 these are the golden years in childhood, don’t blink 💓

  • @jjaneth23
    @jjaneth23 Год назад +8

    Shan I am so happy that you have had the opportunity to travel and work and had the privilege to take your family with you and that you are doing what you love! Very inspiring! Been a silent follower for years makes me proud and makes me wanna get off the couch and work.

  • @amberelmlone
    @amberelmlone Год назад +5

    Lovers and Friends podcast helps me grow in wisdom and knowledge. Going into 10 yrs of marriage, I have grace with myself as I continue to learn, I have been the person being told to get help while my partner was only wanting me to grow and be a beautiful flower and I did eventually when I let go of fear. Beautifully told story, great articulation of relationship and dependency. Wow thank you!

  • @dtwizt
    @dtwizt Год назад +11

    Alot of these things stem from that CONTROLLING ASPECT...JUST BECAUSE ITS HOW YOU SEE IT DONT MEAN THATS HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE

  • @chrisbaltazar7164
    @chrisbaltazar7164 Год назад +3

    Quick little critique i have for you is to put time stamps
    7:55 anyone looking when the pod starts

  • @leahlewis1345
    @leahlewis1345 Год назад +2

    You give really judgment free interviews that allow the audience to engage with their sense of self, reflect and create a plan for the way forward and for that thank you. You are really doing a good deed! All the episodes I have watched are loaded with real, raw, authentic substance for thought provoking change.

  • @ebonyqueen86
    @ebonyqueen86 Год назад +7

    Thank you for this episode with David. Love the raw real honest conversations. And Shan you are seeing that as women we can’t do it all and have a family without there being some type of sacrifice. I know the struggle. I hope you find the right balance for you and your family.

  • @NotAMuse
    @NotAMuse Год назад +3

    I love David!!! The collaboration I never knew I needed! 😍

  • @44nk96
    @44nk96 Год назад +19

    Why is this hilarious man not on the podcast more often? I love him instantly!

    • @danielle743
      @danielle743 Год назад +2

      he has his own its called genius brain!! its soooo good too

    • @yumi1264
      @yumi1264 Год назад

      He also has a food show with tim « delaghetto » called send foodz and a podcast with him called dudes behind the food. Would recommend

  • @lexilion16
    @lexilion16 Год назад +13

    Ever since you mentioned having David on the podcast I've been WAITING on this episode. I love David and you and this has been such an amazing and insightful conversation to listen to. So thank you, Shan for that ❤️
    On your revelation for how you'd like to shift your focus. I have no real advice as I've never had to make this call. But you are valid in wanting to focus more on your little ones and your family! You give us so much great content, I love how researched and open minded and self aware you are. How you take on accountability for yourself and aren't afraid to be wrong and we all get to learn together. But you don't owe us anything. You have been a powerhouse for YEARS, you are an incredibly intelligent woman and while I'm sure it must be a little daunting, I'm confident that you will hit your stride in finding a balance that feels right FOR YOU. We will adjust with you. Much love!

  • @happygucci5094
    @happygucci5094 Год назад +2

    Shan you are an absolute force of nature. I greatly admire the woman you are, the courage,authenticity, empathy and fierce intelligence you have is so powerful. You inspire me to want more for my life. So good.
    Much love to you and your family 💗

  • @MsMizz1
    @MsMizz1 Год назад +6

    Shan loved this episode! When introducing the diagram you prefaced it with smthg like “let’s take a healthy relationship.” It reminded me of Dr. Nikki Coleman.Can you bring her on to talk about what makes a relationship healthy or any topic the 2 of you agree to?

  • @BlueNoteGaming_
    @BlueNoteGaming_ Год назад +4

    It’s like Shan is interviewing my RUclips Best Hits playlist lol 😂

  • @eilaalmeida39
    @eilaalmeida39 Год назад +5

    I loved this episode! David is so articulate and self-aware! I also loved hearing about your realization that you want to spend more time with your kids and the challenge of how you can honour this truth when your current work setup doesn't make that easy.
    I am so glad you've been able to pinpoint what your heart is calling you to do and be at this point in your life, and I can't wait to see what this looks like for you!

  • @lisasiawild5816
    @lisasiawild5816 Год назад +8

    Commenting for the algorithm because I want you to win. You look beautiful, and your content is so valuable.

  • @mopedboy07
    @mopedboy07 Год назад +1

    I love hearing and watching david so. Also thank you for having him on.

  • @staygroovybritt
    @staygroovybritt Год назад +13

    Lol Thanks for introducing me to David. He is awesome. I’ve began to check out some of his content. He is just the right amount of asshole 😂 Love it!

  • @44nk96
    @44nk96 Год назад +3

    We love you, Shan ❤️ Strength is not shown in your ability to stand still, it’s revealed in your capacity to bend. 💪

  • @dominique5562
    @dominique5562 Год назад +8

    I can soooo relate to David.. so dependent on others to feel value. I gotta find me! 😅

  • @AshleyJones-yu2vf
    @AshleyJones-yu2vf 8 месяцев назад

    This was a great episode! And I feel everything you stated about balancing motherhood and your career.

  • @kat7203
    @kat7203 Год назад +4

    I loved this episode. I've been feeling so many similar feelings and this made me feel like I wasn't alone! Always love your content Shan

  • @rilyb4033
    @rilyb4033 Год назад +1

    Something I've learned as a mother and woman, it is that we have different seasons in life. In some seasons we need priorities our family, in other seasons we focus priorities work or projects. We get to have it all but not at the same time and that is ok we don't need to go insane juggling all these aspects of our lives at the same time.

  • @jae6506
    @jae6506 Год назад +3

    That conversation was 💯

  • @OSeeingUOut
    @OSeeingUOut Год назад

    I love David So, Im glad new people are being introduced to him.

  • @TheAlreadytaken24
    @TheAlreadytaken24 Год назад +3

    truthfully i do think the guy in this video is a breathe of fresh air.. he can actually hold a conversation which is amazing.. he is charming.. and super raw and honest.. 👏👏 I definitely like this interview .. but i do disagree with therapy.. in some ways.. some places can actually cause or give you more trauma.. or advise you to try medications that you do not at all need or gaslight you in ways.. or diagnose you with something that is not true but they didn't take the time..I had a friend that went to therapy and let's just say this friend is no longer here.. (but he did say search around referring to the guy in the video) so that part i do agree with but you have to be extremely careful because if you don't fully know who you are .. these therapist can manipulate and make things far more worst.. i will say first do the self work on you.. then once you truly know you.. then probably go to therapy.. to polish or buffer some habits .... . for minorities whether mixed, black, mexican, asian etc.. make sure your therapist can RELATE to you and understand YOU and your life and your experiences.. because someone can misjudge you due to their TEXTBOOK knowledge or how they grew up and they may have not experienced certain traumas you experienced yet for them to determine why you feel or think the way you do.. but overall great video

    • @pebblez_
      @pebblez_ Год назад +1

      Damn thanks for da info

  • @AozoraUltra2006
    @AozoraUltra2006 Год назад +1

    I was listening to david and muriel podcast early-ish pandemic. I always wondered why they stuck together because they sound so over each other. This cleared things up a lot.

  • @IHappyChicken
    @IHappyChicken Год назад +1

    David is so wise!

  • @thegamingkitchen8429
    @thegamingkitchen8429 Год назад +4

    Therapy means nothing. Therapy and then acting on it is the change.

  • @marleyofficialmedia
    @marleyofficialmedia Год назад

    Gardener and Seed... that hits so deep, I love it.

  • @laurenthomas3748
    @laurenthomas3748 8 месяцев назад

    I knew David would sneak a few jokes in here! Thanks for sharing this story, David. You’re silly, but still insightful. Another great podcast! 👍🏾

  • @EverythingByDee
    @EverythingByDee Год назад +4

    Hoooly shit, I LOVED THIS EPISODE! Wow, incredible. I appreciate his vulnerability so much. I didn’t know he could get so deep! I only knew the funny version of him though his and Tim’s podcast which i see the covers for on my RUclips feed. Immediately following him!

    • @Brian-rv2xs
      @Brian-rv2xs Год назад

      If you liked this I highly recommend listening to David's Pocast, Genius Brain, ft Ed Park. They've had a lot deep interesting conversations I think Ed is naturally like that.

  • @Forreminiscing
    @Forreminiscing Год назад +2

    He does sound like someone who can’t admit when they’re wrong lol

  • @NewBlueTrue
    @NewBlueTrue Год назад +3

    I just need to give David a compliment. He’s got great skin. He must really take care of himself.

  • @Modnyy
    @Modnyy Год назад

    The timing of this episode … so needed for me

  • @msjayycec6096
    @msjayycec6096 Год назад

    Never clicked on a video so fast! Love David, please go on his podcast 😍

  • @E3live-o4e
    @E3live-o4e Год назад

    I love love this episode. It came to me in such a timely way

  • @jdawkss
    @jdawkss Год назад

    I loved the end, it was a really real introspective moment. Thank you!!

  • @alondrabustos1684
    @alondrabustos1684 Год назад

    SHAN! I absolutely feel refreshed and. enlightened by your sincereness and ability to be as vulnerable as you are EVERY episode. Your truth helps me face my truths and to dig deeper into those truths. Gracias mami! xoxo

  • @joyellesjourneys4450
    @joyellesjourneys4450 Год назад +1

    Aaaaaahhhhh I love David and you!!! I love this!!!! 🙃

  • @JaieElizabeth
    @JaieElizabeth Год назад +2

    I love this ultimatum
    Lol it’s so necessary sometimes.. especially when you’re not a trained professional lol

  • @DamnAwesome
    @DamnAwesome Год назад

    David was awesome!

  • @matthewchang6263
    @matthewchang6263 Год назад

    I’m just listening to this podcast!

  • @jenice7592
    @jenice7592 Год назад +1

    Loved this podcast and you are so pretty!!

  • @francescamudannayake5465
    @francescamudannayake5465 Год назад

    Hello from Sri Lanka! I have been in love with your work for so many years now and you've given me so much strength and guidance in navigating my own relationships. Added to that I've learnt a lot about what it means to be a woman from you! Above all, I appreciate your vulnerability and honesty-- I look up to you. Whatever career decisions you make going forward I'm so happy the world has got to see the brilliant work you do. BIG HUG.

  • @montserratgallegos4645
    @montserratgallegos4645 Год назад

    Life is full of these shifts in our identity. I Can relate in so many levels. My wife and I were working to purchase our sperm donor for our initial baby planning this month. We ran into so many walls because both my wife and I are dancers and the pandemic took a lot of time out of our dance careers, that now that everything is opening again, we both feel like we have a second shot at it and have gained momentum. We decided to go for it now and postpone our baby planning. I felt my wife’s guilt for doing so and I felt guilt too. But at the end we both shifted closer for understanding each others needs and wants before baby. We are so lucky to have that decision making in our hands.. so we are taking the time to live out our dreams before babies. However it got me thinking on how everything will change with our babies. I can’t wait for our family to grow.. but it also scares me. In all the good ways. But I think I discomfort is a part of growth and I’ll take it if it means we will all do it together. If any of that makes any sense lol.

  • @KayciaSailsman
    @KayciaSailsman Год назад

    Great episode! I look forward to seeing and hearing more :)

  • @1014Des
    @1014Des Год назад +1

    Love this!

  • @kikibara1
    @kikibara1 Год назад

    You look great Shan, im so happy you came to that realization toward the end❤️ we support you always even if ultimately that means we dont see you as much, or content changes etc etc

  • @worn8982
    @worn8982 Год назад

    The thing about being disastrous instead of just saying someone hurt my feelings is me. What a revelation

  • @min_hyuk98
    @min_hyuk98 3 месяца назад +1

    New to this channel :)

  • @cristinacarrion4723
    @cristinacarrion4723 Год назад +2

    I love how David explain why therapy is such a great thing. In the Latino culture going to therapy is extremely stigmatized. I was open to someone about going to therapy about a particular subject and a younger Latina just made fun of the situation without understanding that I was being vulnerable by just sharing sometime I knew to be highly stigmatized in our culture and proofing that younger generations are still beng taught that therapy is a joke.

  • @aurelie.lasirene
    @aurelie.lasirene Год назад +7

    Ouuuuh David! Let’s go! I’m here for it :)

  • @TheOnlyTaps
    @TheOnlyTaps Год назад

    Dope watch

  • @AngieSmiles123
    @AngieSmiles123 Год назад +1

    lmao I saw the thumbnail and title and instantly thought “these two aries are about to spit some hard truth” 😂

  • @briyun519
    @briyun519 Год назад

    This is so dope

  • @alexandriayoung
    @alexandriayoung Год назад

    “I’ll keep all these f*ckn cupboards open” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @matthewchang6263
    @matthewchang6263 Год назад +2

    Relationships are hard

  • @MyPlusOne
    @MyPlusOne Год назад

    The subject matter is very interesting I'm glad to see these type of shows as we also have our own sit-down podcast Style conversations about relationships. It is very important as minorities to stop taking therapy and it's benefits for granted

  • @Tyrell4Real
    @Tyrell4Real Год назад

    You look gorgeous Shan !! Great episode btw

  • @caca53444
    @caca53444 Год назад

    Hey Shan, Id say that the healthy version of co dependance is inter dependance and to add to the attachment sty;les there's fearful avoidance! love the podcast xx

  • @roadlesswandering
    @roadlesswandering Год назад

    I haven't seen David So in a minute! Let me go find his RUclips channel.

  • @MadisonStuczynski3a1
    @MadisonStuczynski3a1 Год назад

    I'm sorry but I DO have to ask about what eyeshadow you're wearing during the intro and the Apostrophe ad. Please.

  • @millardfilmore1403
    @millardfilmore1403 Год назад +3

    I love these interviews but why are they all only like 20 minutes long? The rest is like your commentary and stuff which is fine but, you know we would really like to hear an hour long interview with (i.e.) Bart and Geo or David instead of 20 minutes? Like?

  • @selinaaaxxi
    @selinaaaxxi Год назад

    omg the eye cream incident made me cry T_T

  • @dtwizt
    @dtwizt Год назад +1

    I like him 🤟🏿

  • @kathycrc
    @kathycrc Год назад

    Beautiful!! Englightening. From beginning to the end. I feel you Shan. I am at that stage as well. Where quality time with fam is more important.

  • @SadeC
    @SadeC Год назад

    Cartagena de Indias 😍 🇨🇴

  • @npc4020
    @npc4020 Год назад +1

    Tethered is such a beautiful word

  • @ad_kk16
    @ad_kk16 Год назад

    Honestly, never thought I can relate to David lmao

  • @TruePathLiving
    @TruePathLiving Год назад

    You look beautiful Shan

  • @pebblez_
    @pebblez_ Год назад

    First time seein ur poscast

  • @Got2BOshun
    @Got2BOshun Год назад +23

    I feel sorry for his wife. He seems very cold, rigid & demanding. He tried to play it off & mask it with a lot of psycho babble. He also called his wife a bitch for asking if he was crying? He still seems extremely angry & low key dangerous. This was an episode that made me remember the perks of being single. I wouldn’t want to be the woman trying to figure out how to stay safe while living with a man like him.

    • @aleeshasimone4460
      @aleeshasimone4460 Год назад +6

      Agreed.... yikes

    • @naijalayday1500
      @naijalayday1500 Год назад +9

      Phewwww I was reading all the praise comments and sooo confused. Agreed, he seems horrible

    • @_SheRoseee_
      @_SheRoseee_ Год назад +7

      I was really trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but 🥴 especially the part where he said that it made him feel bad to tell his wife that he missed her. There’s a lot to unpack in this video and I really wish it was longer and more in-depth, but nonetheless to each their own.

    • @chinoskateboardv
      @chinoskateboardv Год назад

      David is a simp so don’t worry. If you watch more of his videos you’ll learn he just talks a lot of shit and this is how he acts. Obviously Shan wouldn’t have him on if he really was that crazy. They’ve known each other for a long time.

    • @Got2BOshun
      @Got2BOshun Год назад

      @@chinoskateboardv a simp? That’s misogynistic language. Every abuser has friends who have known them a long time 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @joshuauchechukwu4039
    @joshuauchechukwu4039 Год назад

    Humbly appreciate your kind gesture Dr Ehire on RUclips , you have always able to help with any health issues , the herpes virus was something the world thought has no cure but I'm happy to say today that I've been cured and I'm glad to have you as my doctor ...

  • @rikasalvador
    @rikasalvador Год назад

    Two Aries ♈️♈️🙏🏽🔥🔥🔥

  • @CaliburPANDAs
    @CaliburPANDAs Год назад +1

    When you got korean's number 1 rap artist, kim jong illah on the show, views only go up...

  • @livingportalstv
    @livingportalstv Год назад +3

    I hear a lot of jealousy and envy of his wife! Shocking how he’s the one with demands

  • @gibbsfan19
    @gibbsfan19 Год назад +1

    Btw, GMOs are safe

  • @pebblez_
    @pebblez_ Год назад

    Wheres tim

  • @pkruez2089
    @pkruez2089 Год назад

    Come visit JK again please!

  • @teresamarie7460
    @teresamarie7460 Год назад

    His partner was skeptical about going to therapy because after his decades of therapy he is still throwing mantrums. Also, long-term therapy is essentially paying for someone to listen to you vent.

  • @ursamedven8564
    @ursamedven8564 Год назад

    Man I don't like the way he's talking about his wife... I don't think you should sugarcoat hard parts of your relationship but he just sound so disrespectful when speaking about her, the ultimatums, being done with her. Am I the only one?

  • @krbk26
    @krbk26 Год назад

    So I'm the only one that thinks this dude is abrasive and obnoxious... ok cool I'm ok with being out in this limb alone

  • @esmevega333
    @esmevega333 Год назад

    EXTREMELY WORDY. the same thing was said many time over in different ways