SCREAMING at the checking of your blood pressure instead of your pulse and saying the movie was not good for your health but showing a very healthy BP reading 😭
@@jennab.6723 your tone is weird.. considering an entire aspect of figuring your blood pressure is your heartbeats per minute, and the machine she used was in fact showing both her heartrate and blood pressure rising and falling, there's no reason she should be embarrassed and definitely no reason for her to delete this video. lowkey you sound like an ass for commenting that 😒
A part of it is probably bc women r seen as more innocent and defenseless compared to a man, so it's considered more evil to go after them. You even see in some media where the killers will only go after men and there will be those ppl who are like "at least he didnt hurt any women." And the nudity is probably for shock value in this specific movie, which is wat this movie mostly goes for. There probably is some kind of weird thing that ppl are into somewhere in there but yea I agree it's not needed and doesn't add anything to the media.
@@jujutsumaster4894 I agree, but I also feel than an aspect of it might be that putting women in these situations is something *the men* want to do to women in real life, but can't because of the law.
@@jujutsumaster4894also just to let you know. The creator of terrifier responded to these claims in terrifier 3. He does this by giving a man the same exact death as the blonde girl (dawn) in the first film.
@@ShyknitI haven’t watched the new movie, the third, but I have seen people saying that the director actually saw this criticism and then made the worst death be of a male character, as a way to “redeem” himself and prove to people that he doesn’t really mean to come across as a misogynistic piece of sh¡t
I will just say that judging from Terrifier 2 and 3, it seems the director listened these kinds of critiques cus it gets more equal in the other movies
The naked women vs naked men debate I love it. I think it comes down to the point that some killers wanna dehumanize women down to being a thing. Plus, I think back then, it also put naked women because sex sells. Most killers had mommy issues You will enjoy the final girl in the second
Oh... in the sequels Art has no problem mutilating men and cutting off the penis but he does use cruelty against women with a lot more just excessive over the top theatrics in their deaths. Sienna in the sequels definetly helps to balance things a bit and really I'm not even sure she is a final girl as much as an Anti-Art powerhouse. The editing is also a lot better in the second where the shots get a bit tighter but still has some of the moments where no one reacts as fast as you'd think the should.
I love how people instantly attacked Damien for being sexist without any idea what's to come. Not only did Damien give Hollywood the finger, but also took away the whole "it's only women being tortured" argument. Art doesn't care about the gender of the genitals he mangles.
There was a scene in bone tomohawk where a man gets chopped in half while naked in the same was as the girl in this movie and the scene might be even more brutal
Damien Leone (the director and creator of this) listened to audience critique about the whole plotless/somewhat sexist story and kills and went on the create such a badass final girl in part two and three and an actual story to get involved in. He said it wasn’t his intention for people to think of this movie as sexist but the fact that he actually heard and listened to the critiques shows he’s willing to listen and cater to his audience Edit: also some of the men get IT in 2 and 3, you’ll know when you watch 😅
eeek idk it still does feel a bit weird how sexualized sienna is in 2 despite being in high school. also the inclusion of a final girl does not really do much to ease the sexism if at all. i think the problems present in 1 also come through in 2, especially comparing the bedroom scene to literally any of the male deaths. but also terrifier is a series that takes from all sorts of horror movies through the years, and misogyny is a general issue in the genre as a whole, so like it's not solely a problem with damien leone. he's kind of just going with tradition in a way. but actually despite all this i actually thought that 3 was pretty good. it took everything wrong with 1&2, not just in terms of sexism, and genuinely improved upon it all
He's full of shit, dude. He's basically a modern splatterpunk author (except with movies instead), and those motherfuckers are pretty much all misogynists. Even the gay one. ESPECIALLY the gay one. I can't remember if that's Aron Beauregard or a different guy, but holy crap, they all have fifth-grade attitudes towards women.
The Terrifier movies caused lots of people to walk out of the theater sick to their stomach after seeing the brutality onscreen. I'm surprised they didn't give these movies an NC 17 rating.
Watching the Behind the Scenes melted my fear of this movie. The guy who plays Art is SO sweet and kind. Made me like the dude behind the makeup, and now im just like "aw, look at my lil buddy go.".
It’s really interesting to talk about the role of women in horror films and how almost always, almost ALWAYS, when women are killed there is almost a sexual factor even if she’s fully clothed.
I love how Trin went from discussing the importance of critiquing the overobjectification of womens bodies in horror (which i completely agree with) to saying "i really like him for that" when Art pulls out the gun 😂
No, because speak on it! Women are brutalized a lot more in horror films. And yeah, you have to expect some sort of violence when it comes to the horror genre. The ways they're killed, though, are much more personal. The female victims are often naked, or barely clothed. They are seemingly helpless. When they die you can just be like "She's so stupid, she should have known better." Especially in this movie, the girls are put through the maximum amount of pain. That's why films like "Pearl" are nice. It's all violence against men, and the woman is fully fleshed out. I'm someone who is scared by psychological horror, rather than body horror. That kind of stuff just grosses me out.
exactly! I also feel like the prevalence of female nudity then desensitizes people who already cant relate to having a female body which in turn then likely adds fuel to feminicides. im not someone who would blame media for people's violence but this genre of horror thats so comfortable with brutalizing women for no reason other than shock (bc lets be real this movie had 0 plot) is so very dangerous
@@opethmike they’re talking about slashers in general not specifically the terrifier franchise. and when they are talking about terrifier, they’re talking about THIS movie not the others. reading comprehension skills are going downhill these days
19:38 you got to watch slumber party massacre, it’s a Jennifer’s body situation where it’s marketed towards men but it’s script intent and it’s treatment towards men vs women is so ahead of it’s time
slumber party massacre (the first one) is a strange movie for me cause sometimes it feels like it leans into the stuff it's criticizing a bit too much, if that makes sense?? still a fantastic movie, and the sequels are just amazing
@@valeriarossini543 That makes sense to feel conflicted like that, the original script SPM was meant to be very satirical and poke fun at how women get treated in horror, but when it was bought it was reworked to be more straightforward, although you can feel the elements of its satire in it. the woman who directed it also talked about how the execs were the ones wanting more... voyeuristic shots of nudity and she just said fuck it i'll do it so he can leave me alone for my next project
First and foremost, love ya! Excited to see a new reaction! Second, I work in healthcare and I say this with all love, what you’re reading is blood pressure. There should be a heart beat reading on the screen but I think you just got mixed up. If you ever do this again, there’s a lovely little finger one that doesn’t have to squeeze your arm. ❤
i was watching this with my bf and i literally had to turn it off. he's like the nightmare version of all my anxieties of 'man following me when im out at night'.
the blood pressure machine used as a heart rate monitor and the “heart rate” being an almost text book normal blood pressure reading is absolutely sending me. i have laughed so hard i literally can’t 💀😂🤣
@@Itzme_Zi have no interest in watching the movies on my own, but i was excited to see that a content creator i really like uploaded a review cause then i can still see what it’s about and how bad it is lol
@@acemyname OHHHH TO BE HONEST IM ACTUALLY THE SAME. I know it’s gonna be either bad or good and I watch it like with hereditary, I’m glad I watched it either way RUclipsrs or else I would of seen the naked people (Spoiler Kind of sorry if you haven’t watched it yet😭)
19:02 This is literally what I know this movie for and why I keep clear of it. Like as a big horror girly I’ve definitely noticed that a lot of horror movies LOVE to sexualize violence against women, but this movie is so uncomfortably blatant about it. Clearest example of fetishizing women’s pain that I could possibly think of
Trin, honey you did the right thing with the blood pressure monitor bc it reads both BP and heart beats so dont feel bad! And BP is affected by our emotions and how fast our heart beats because it fucking moves our blood! It's just that people like to correct others
I get more creeped out than scared when watching most horror films. I loved Longlegs because it’s the first film to consistently give me chills because of how realistic the baddie is.
I completely agree with your take! As a horror loving girly I am trying to have this discussion with others too. Yet I have become so desensitized that I hadn't realized the disparity of treatment between the female and male body in this movie. So thank you for speaking about it in your commentary!
The director of these films pride and joy is his character Sienna. Even more than Art the Clown his passion is the final girl in the subsequent film. And she is a great female lead imo. Great female character in general. Also in the second film a guy gets stabbed in the 🍆 pretty horrifically Not quite as graphic but just a little balancing of the scales lol
Coralie Fargeat is so intentional with the way she depicts nudity in both of her movies and the industry needs more of it. Can’t wait to watch that reaction!
@@samanthawilliams549 exactly!!! When Trin was talking about nudity with a purpose. Being such a full frontal film and being so camp at times but also being so meaningful
@@mollythompson4865 I was a huge nerd for Revenge when it first came out and wrote a whole piece about her incredible use of nudity and the male gaze (themes that also show up in The Substance). I’m so glad Fargeat is getting her shine.
i genuinely love how she started the movie scared, and ended it by just staring at the screen blankly, unimpressed. I like slasher movies; but that’s really all the first terrifier had going for it. the second one is definitely better when it comes to kills that make sense, and does the campiness better. I understand why people like it so much, but if i wanted to just see pointless gore; i’d watch evil dead.
I think it’s supposed to be off putting and vulgar. The rule essentially in life is no woman or children get harmed they are seen as innocent. So what’s the most vulgar way and grotesque thing we can do to show there are no rules. I think that’s what they did. I wouldn’t be surprised in future films if they castrated dudes and harmed children ngl.
So, this was actually the second film that Art was in. Before this, he was in a film called All Hallows Eve. He harmed children in that movie before this woman. There have been two more Terrifier films since this one. No one is off limits. These movies aren't for everyone, and based off most of the people I have noticed commenting on this video, I am going to say most of her subs are not cut out for this type of horror, but thats okay (:
I feel the same way about the portray of women in horror, howeverrrrr .. this franchise is actually not an example of that. The later movies especially the third the director made a point to prove that his nude kills (hand saw scene) are not senseless nudity for women but that he only chooses that for the soul sake of making the scene more horrifying to watch.
it absolutely is an example of it…what? this movie literally proves that. maybe not the later ones, whatever, but it’s bc this movie was shit on rightfully so and the director changed the other movies
@@TomieBlade this movie was made within the view of the entire franchise he didn’t create it as a single project and change his approach after backlash. This charterer has always brutalized all types of people throughout his creation I see what your saying but this is not an ideal and accurate example of what she was talking about. Something like slumber party massacre would be a better example of senseless nudity toward women in horror.
19:20 this is very real for the genre in general, but especially for this particular franchise. it’s not just about engaging an audience through horror, gore, and jump scares: there is also a very prominent element of showcasing specifically gendered, specifically sexualized violence against women that is sensationalized in a way that is not equally applied to the male characters who are killed in these movies.
i think what i mean to say is that in addition to being gratuitous, it replicates and reinforces violence against women, rather than simply portraying it
Why don’t you guys don’t watch it?? theres a scene equivalent to the chainsaw scene in terrifier 3 with a man, stop getting offended by everything holy crap
On the topic of women being tortured in graphic ways, I think it's the idea that if a man can hurt a woman or child he can hurt anyone. But you can't show children being harmed in films so women are the next target. If it were just men hacking other men up I think the shock value is less extreme.
Thank you!! 🙏🏻 no plot. Brutality towards women for no reason, no character development. Just gross. Put a bad taste in my mouth and I don’t give a fuck, I any watching the other ones either. I was laughing the first time I watched this movie, up until the pussy sawing scene… after that… I started to have a panic attack and wanted to puke.. I wasn’t okay. And I DON’T mean that as a compliment. 😬
PLEASEEEE WATCH THE SECOND ONE, I promise it’s a lot better!! Also Art (the clown) WAS a person up until his death, now some demonic entity is working to keep him alive.
Edit because im commenting as im watching: Both sequels do have violence against the penis! :D I'm definitely with you on the nudity, but I've heard (i think in an interview with the director) that having more clothes on would've made it a lot more difficult to get the shots consistent, and this first movie was very low budget. It's definitely still uncomfortable but it checks out. The sequels are way better in terms of how the female characters are portrayed and killed. The clown is also way sillier in them. :D
I think I was much more worried for the actress talking about having to do the body mold and getting stuck in it for a bit where they almost had to take her to the hospital before they got her out.
Also in the scene where he's literally sawing her in half, the clothes would offer more resistance to the saw so I can kind of understand the way it's laid out.
Thanks for watching. So now I can avoid this and the other two parts of it like a plague. It will never sit right with me when men write torturing women specifically.
I watch Dead Meat/James A. Janisse's Kill Count videos, and I noticed that there are almost always more male victims in horror movies than female. This really surprised me as a lifelong horror fan, so I started paying attention more to the gender treatment while watching horror movies. Male victims are almost universally killed very quickly, while female victims have extended chase/torture scenes. (This doesn't just include the Final Girl of the movie.) And the main reason for the gender disparity is that nameless cops in movies are almost always men, and there are TONS of scenes where the killer takes out a bunch of random cops who aren't actual characters. Women actually consume more horror than men, but the violence and nudity is still noticeably exploited against women.
In the third movie they def took the complaints of people saying art only focuses on attacking and mutilating women. Cause in the third movie the most creative/ brutal kills are now kills that were on men. So the director def listened and grew as a director after the many complaints of the first movie
You bring up a fantastic point about the way women’s bodies are depicted in horror movies and that goes hand in hand with the type of violence being afflicted against women in these movies as well. I think you’d really enjoy The Substance if you haven’t seen it yet!!!
I really love horror, but for some reason, I really CANNOT do gore 😭😭 so I was all about Longlegs when it came out, but you'll NEVER catch me watching the Terrifier movies 💀
sooo glad i didnt watch this movie. and trin u gotta read laura mulvey’s visual pleasure in narrative cinema- it deconstructs the sexualization and exploitation of women in horror for what it is and i just adore !!! i think you’d eat it up. if u need the pdf girl i got u
So many people talking about her bringing up the nudity, but no one is talking about how that same rant had her saying Art dragged them to his lair…literally the building one went to pee in because the car broke down in front of it. That’s not even the only off thing I heard her say, to where I felt like, “Did she not catch that during editing?”
Another youtuber that watch has been editing the clown from this movie and i saw the second movie being recommended to me on the home page of amazon prime now trin posts this video, I'M SCARED😭😭
HELP, I'm so terrified (lol) of this movie. I can't handle gore AT ALLLL, but I've been dying to watch a reaction where all the gore is cut out. Guys, is this save for me to watch? I know it's RUclips, but I really don't even wanna see any hints on the extreme brutality 😭
18:55 i wrote a portion of my final thesis on this scene!! i completely agree, the portrayal of women's bodies in horror media is so disturbing and can be really dangerous for us in our everyday lives
Have you ever used a saw? They bind up on clothing materials. Would you rather him having to take the saw out and clean the teeth from fabric every couple feet? Nope. Sorry. That's why she's naked. The only one in the movie actually. Hope you failed your thesis on some poor attempt to be smart
portrayal of female nudity has always been unfair in the industry but it's not only on the horror/gore genre, i actually think those 2 are the best because if you watch Terrifier you get Female Nudity but there's also male nudity in films like it, a huge example is the movie ''i spit on your grave'' [amazing saga of movies btw], overall in hollywood you'll never get to see more than a man's ass because the actors don't want to show it and if the role requires it they hire doubles while female actresses have a fucking museum of them naked, the amount of female frontal nudity vs male frontal nudity is ridiculous. PS: of course i LOVE actors like Barry Keoghan who go full nude and i praise them, this is not something all actors do sadly.
portrayal of nudity*** also don’t make entire paragraphs on topics you have NO business speaking about and know nothing about 😂 you’re WAY too old to be acting like this
ok, watched the video and what the fuck even was the movie. Like... I had no expectations for it and I was still disappointed, lmao. Your commentary was fire though! (100% with you on the criticism on how women's bodies are treated, esp in violent media)
The nudity makes sense to me. Much more *terrifying* as well. Alot of the serial killer psychopaths takes off their victims clothes and does something sexual to them. The scene wouldn't have the effect without that nudity
Half the comment section doesn’t understand what “horror” means. It doesn’t have to fit your standards, it’s going to be shocking and sexualizing because it’s made to disturb you. Thats what makes these movies so scary
I love horror flms and idc about gore but the fact that this movie has a NAKED woman being chainsawed in half makes me never wanna watch it. Apparently the 3rd one has a woman "stimulating" herself with a piece of broken glass. I find those choices very disturbing and they make me question the directors choices cause ..... how do you come up with those and how do u actually think they're good ideas ? I dont think there should be an actual censorship but the fact that a MAN chose to sexualiz3 the torture of women will never sit right with me. I totally agree with everything u said. I've been following u for years and as soon as I saw the upload I knew u would comment on that scene. love u
Apparently he’s a supernatural being, which explains his teleportation, he also keeps his victims alive so they can suffer then he decides when they finally die like that’s so fkd Edit: oh and also he never dies…
The murders of Dawn and "Cat Lady", as she is referred to in the credits, are clearly a call back to the inspiration for the Leatherface character in "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre", Wisconsin farmer, grave robber and murderer Ed Gein. He strung up and gutted one of his female victims like deer, and made face masks and at least one female body suit out of the graves he robbed. His two confirmed murder victims were women in the local town his mother had denounced to him while she was alive, the story goes. So if you're wondering where the slasher movie convention on how female bodies are treated when killed, you can blame my home state of Wisconsin. Ed specifically. This year is the 40th anniversary of his death in Madison, Wisconsin at the state mental institution. I was a teen living in Madison at the time, but have no memory of the news of his death.
People saying “he evened the gore out in the other movies between men and women” honestly idgaf the whole plot of brutalizing woman in general is just torture🌽 if you have to strip women naked and drag out their deaths in order to gain any sort of reaction from the audience you’re just a lazy writer
One of my fav horror films- it's the 80's Blob remake. It has equality kills. One hot character, he dies early and brutally and so does the kind bar tender lady. Every victim has equally disturbing deaths from the blob
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SCREAMING at the checking of your blood pressure instead of your pulse and saying the movie was not good for your health but showing a very healthy BP reading 😭
Thats not your heart rate girly, its the blood pressure
I’m actually crying
lmaooooooo 😂
honestly thats me
the bottom number measures your heart rate. I have the same one.
They have a heart rate sensor on them in addition to doing ur blood pressure
i haven't watched the whole video but when you said 128/75 was your heart rate i SCREAMED THATS YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE BABE
I did the same thing
I just noticed the heart rate was at the bottom @9:37 hers was 83 bpm
Which is a perfect blood pressure 😂😂😂😂😂
As a nurse watching Trin show her perfect blood pressure is killing me lmaooo. Like there was a point it was actually going down 😭
@@jennab.6723 your tone is weird.. considering an entire aspect of figuring your blood pressure is your heartbeats per minute, and the machine she used was in fact showing both her heartrate and blood pressure rising and falling, there's no reason she should be embarrassed and definitely no reason for her to delete this video. lowkey you sound like an ass for commenting that 😒
@@jennab.6723 nah its funny
@@jennab.6723it ain’t that serious 😆. Talking about deleting the whole video is absolutely WILD
Lmfao that was so funny
no wait speak on it because the (over) portrayal of female nudity in horror, specifically gore, is something that will always piss me tf off
A part of it is probably bc women r seen as more innocent and defenseless compared to a man, so it's considered more evil to go after them. You even see in some media where the killers will only go after men and there will be those ppl who are like "at least he didnt hurt any women." And the nudity is probably for shock value in this specific movie, which is wat this movie mostly goes for. There probably is some kind of weird thing that ppl are into somewhere in there but yea I agree it's not needed and doesn't add anything to the media.
@@jujutsumaster4894 I agree, but I also feel than an aspect of it might be that putting women in these situations is something *the men* want to do to women in real life, but can't because of the law.
@@evermoreisamasterpiece Yea that's what I'm talking about the weird thing that ppl might be into
@@jujutsumaster4894also just to let you know. The creator of terrifier responded to these claims in terrifier 3. He does this by giving a man the same exact death as the blonde girl (dawn) in the first film.
its because viewers are more sympathetic towards women
19:08 THIS Trin has all the right takes, I’m so sick of weird dehumanizing fetishized horror on women specifically.
I recommend the book Men, Women, & Chainsaws by Carol J Clover
I do find it interesting that each of these movies has a scene where a woman is tortured the hardest and longest to a completely unnecessary level
@@ShyknitI haven’t watched the new movie, the third, but I have seen people saying that the director actually saw this criticism and then made the worst death be of a male character, as a way to “redeem” himself and prove to people that he doesn’t really mean to come across as a misogynistic piece of sh¡t
@@TheMaleLewinsky013does it work?
@@jaderhoden9897Kinda, all deaths of the movie arent up to part 2
I will just say that judging from Terrifier 2 and 3, it seems the director listened these kinds of critiques cus it gets more equal in the other movies
I mean some sexually horrific violence happens to a man in the third film 😅
@@erinnadia0409second too, just the tip tho
@@erinnadia0409 Also the second... ouch.
@@erinnadia0409Yeah, I mean, imagine a serial butcher having issues with sex. You’d think they’d be really stable mentally..
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Art is asexual and sees sex as beneath him
The naked women vs naked men debate I love it. I think it comes down to the point that some killers wanna dehumanize women down to being a thing. Plus, I think back then, it also put naked women because sex sells. Most killers had mommy issues
You will enjoy the final girl in the second
Yeah Sierra saved the franchise for me, she’s a great final girl
@@erinnadia0409YESS we love her!! she is exactly what we needed in a franchise like this. she’s truly the highlight of 2 and 3
Oh... in the sequels Art has no problem mutilating men and cutting off the penis but he does use cruelty against women with a lot more just excessive over the top theatrics in their deaths. Sienna in the sequels definetly helps to balance things a bit and really I'm not even sure she is a final girl as much as an Anti-Art powerhouse. The editing is also a lot better in the second where the shots get a bit tighter but still has some of the moments where no one reacts as fast as you'd think the should.
I love how people instantly attacked Damien for being sexist without any idea what's to come. Not only did Damien give Hollywood the finger, but also took away the whole "it's only women being tortured" argument. Art doesn't care about the gender of the genitals he mangles.
There was a scene in bone tomohawk where a man gets chopped in half while naked in the same was as the girl in this movie and the scene might be even more brutal
I can excuse murder, but a dirty syringe????
*stares like Shirley You can excuse murder?!
I have 2 parents in the medical field, babe, that’s a health code violation…
I hated watching this but him pulling out the glock was literally so funny
I feel the exact same way. I HATED this movie, but him pulling out the Glock was hilarious.
Damien Leone (the director and creator of this) listened to audience critique about the whole plotless/somewhat sexist story and kills and went on the create such a badass final girl in part two and three and an actual story to get involved in. He said it wasn’t his intention for people to think of this movie as sexist but the fact that he actually heard and listened to the critiques shows he’s willing to listen and cater to his audience
Edit: also some of the men get IT in 2 and 3, you’ll know when you watch 😅
i hate horror movies that are just gore with no plot
@@nnnn-sc2imwell...then this franchise is just simply not for you
eeek idk it still does feel a bit weird how sexualized sienna is in 2 despite being in high school. also the inclusion of a final girl does not really do much to ease the sexism if at all. i think the problems present in 1 also come through in 2, especially comparing the bedroom scene to literally any of the male deaths. but also terrifier is a series that takes from all sorts of horror movies through the years, and misogyny is a general issue in the genre as a whole, so like it's not solely a problem with damien leone. he's kind of just going with tradition in a way. but actually despite all this i actually thought that 3 was pretty good. it took everything wrong with 1&2, not just in terms of sexism, and genuinely improved upon it all
maybe the third movie is better, haven't seen it, but terrifier 2 didn't fix the misogyny issue at all
He's full of shit, dude. He's basically a modern splatterpunk author (except with movies instead), and those motherfuckers are pretty much all misogynists. Even the gay one. ESPECIALLY the gay one. I can't remember if that's Aron Beauregard or a different guy, but holy crap, they all have fifth-grade attitudes towards women.
saw the thumbnail, said “oh no” and clicked
my logic was "i need to watch it asap otherwise i'll just keep getting jumpscared by the thumbnail in my recommended feed" lmao
Same
The Terrifier movies caused lots of people to walk out of the theater sick to their stomach after seeing the brutality onscreen. I'm surprised they didn't give these movies an NC 17 rating.
Its "Unrated" so if rated it would probably be NC-17
it’s really not that serious
@@Sophie-nz9fz it is tho lol
That’s because they sissies
Why would you go to see a movie if you can't handle brutality? Massive overrated movie and hype
Watching the Behind the Scenes melted my fear of this movie. The guy who plays Art is SO sweet and kind. Made me like the dude behind the makeup, and now im just like "aw, look at my lil buddy go.".
It’s really interesting to talk about the role of women in horror films and how almost always, almost ALWAYS, when women are killed there is almost a sexual factor even if she’s fully clothed.
When people are killed*** also don’t speak on something you know nothing about and have NO business speaking on.
Wdym
AND SCREAM SAID IT!
everyone saying "Trin it's your blood pressure, not your heart rate" but no one mentioning she has the arm cuff on the wrong way.😭
waiting on a horror movie with only male nudity, imagine the headlines
wait till you see terrifier 3
@@myra-yves i actually got an ad for it after this video lol
@@myra-yves I'm convinced this is how men perceive a vasectomy...
Bone tomohawk?
Sooo Terrifier 3
I love how Trin went from discussing the importance of critiquing the overobjectification of womens bodies in horror (which i completely agree with) to saying "i really like him for that" when Art pulls out the gun 😂
I agree with you about the relationship between the creators of horror movies and women’s bodies
People’s bodies*** not “women’s bodies” hun 😂 don’t speak on something you know nothing about and have no business speaking on
@@Cruity Stop copy pasting your own comment several times...
Shut up
No, because speak on it! Women are brutalized a lot more in horror films. And yeah, you have to expect some sort of violence when it comes to the horror genre. The ways they're killed, though, are much more personal. The female victims are often naked, or barely clothed. They are seemingly helpless. When they die you can just be like "She's so stupid, she should have known better." Especially in this movie, the girls are put through the maximum amount of pain. That's why films like "Pearl" are nice. It's all violence against men, and the woman is fully fleshed out. I'm someone who is scared by psychological horror, rather than body horror. That kind of stuff just grosses me out.
You haven't watched these movies. Very obvious you haven't.
exactly!
I also feel like the prevalence of female nudity then desensitizes people who already cant relate to having a female body which in turn then likely adds fuel to feminicides. im not someone who would blame media for people's violence but this genre of horror thats so comfortable with brutalizing women for no reason other than shock (bc lets be real this movie had 0 plot) is so very dangerous
@@opethmike they’re talking about slashers in general not specifically the terrifier franchise. and when they are talking about terrifier, they’re talking about THIS movie not the others. reading comprehension skills are going downhill these days
@@jhufffamily7920 Yeah, or it's just people more bold in engaging with bad faith
@@opethmikeshut up
19:38 you got to watch slumber party massacre, it’s a Jennifer’s body situation where it’s marketed towards men but it’s script intent and it’s treatment towards men vs women is so ahead of it’s time
Slumber Party Massacre is a classic and weirdly progressive in some ways for the 80's slasher movies.
Slumber Party Massacre 1&2 are directed by women 👍 They are very much genre satire as well as genuinely fun slashers.
slumber party massacre (the first one) is a strange movie for me cause sometimes it feels like it leans into the stuff it's criticizing a bit too much, if that makes sense?? still a fantastic movie, and the sequels are just amazing
@@valeriarossini543 That makes sense to feel conflicted like that, the original script SPM was meant to be very satirical and poke fun at how women get treated in horror, but when it was bought it was reworked to be more straightforward, although you can feel the elements of its satire in it. the woman who directed it also talked about how the execs were the ones wanting more... voyeuristic shots of nudity and she just said fuck it i'll do it so he can leave me alone for my next project
TRIN you are glowing!!! your hair is so shiny and gorg and just your face ugh
glowing? she got fat how is it glowing
First and foremost, love ya! Excited to see a new reaction!
Second, I work in healthcare and I say this with all love, what you’re reading is blood pressure. There should be a heart beat reading on the screen but I think you just got mixed up. If you ever do this again, there’s a lovely little finger one that doesn’t have to squeeze your arm. ❤
I haven't finished this video yet but you NEED to watch terrifier 2. It is so much better and Sienna is such an awesome final girl!
Yess I need this
so true!!!
Someone tell her to watch Terrifier 2 for equality cause she can get what’s she’s looking for in that film 😂😂😂 same with the 3rd
22:45 its the "ok we are gonna massacre this woman and then NOT implement feminine rage revenge after" that gives me ick from these movies
well yes because horror movies are sexist.
the final girl in 2 and 3 goes pretty hard, art the clown gets his ass whooped
you are braver than the marines! 😭
ARIANA WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE.......also we need a collab pls!!!
ok but collab please
@@spectrophobic Do you not know what a joke is?
@@spectrophobic It's a joke. the joke is that's it's an exaggeration. hope this helps.
yesss love the conversation about womens bodies in horror, I think it's so important that more people talk about this!!
i was watching this with my bf and i literally had to turn it off. he's like the nightmare version of all my anxieties of 'man following me when im out at night'.
this video is already a 10/10 but then adding in that the device you use measures blood pressure and not even heart rate makes it a 15/10
it shows her heart rate as well
You should check out "You're Next". That's one of my favorites. Badass final girl in that movie
such an underrated horror film
@@lovelyhorror1this movie is actually really popular
I remember trin mentioning she watched and loved it
the blood pressure machine used as a heart rate monitor and the “heart rate” being an almost text book normal blood pressure reading is absolutely sending me. i have laughed so hard i literally can’t 💀😂🤣
no like…you don’t understand how much i NEEDED this!!!
Why💀💀💀 I mean ofc for Trin. But I watched this movie for Family Movie Night at 9, (No one knew what this movie was going to be about.)
@@Itzme_Z A question needs a question mark you dumb skull kid.
O.o
@@Itzme_Zi have no interest in watching the movies on my own, but i was excited to see that a content creator i really like uploaded a review cause then i can still see what it’s about and how bad it is lol
@@acemyname OHHHH TO BE HONEST IM ACTUALLY THE SAME. I know it’s gonna be either bad or good and I watch it like with hereditary, I’m glad I watched it either way RUclipsrs or else I would of seen the naked people (Spoiler Kind of sorry if you haven’t watched it yet😭)
19:02 This is literally what I know this movie for and why I keep clear of it. Like as a big horror girly I’ve definitely noticed that a lot of horror movies LOVE to sexualize violence against women, but this movie is so uncomfortably blatant about it. Clearest example of fetishizing women’s pain that I could possibly think of
Thank you sm for this because there was no way I was gonna watch it on my own💀
The blood pressure readings makes this the perfect video I love it
Trin, honey you did the right thing with the blood pressure monitor bc it reads both BP and heart beats so dont feel bad! And BP is affected by our emotions and how fast our heart beats because it fucking moves our blood! It's just that people like to correct others
I swear Trin and Caitlin are braver than me because I refuse to sit through any of these movies.
I get more creeped out than scared when watching most horror films. I loved Longlegs because it’s the first film to consistently give me chills because of how realistic the baddie is.
I completely agree with your take! As a horror loving girly I am trying to have this discussion with others too. Yet I have become so desensitized that I hadn't realized the disparity of treatment between the female and male body in this movie. So thank you for speaking about it in your commentary!
The director of these films pride and joy is his character Sienna. Even more than Art the Clown his passion is the final girl in the subsequent film. And she is a great female lead imo. Great female character in general.
Also in the second film a guy gets stabbed in the 🍆 pretty horrifically
Not quite as graphic but just a little balancing of the scales lol
yeah Terrifier 2 is much better in this sense
Terrifier 3 balances the scales significantly. Trust.
Watch the SUBSTANCE
she's going to she posted on twitter she was looking for a link
Coralie Fargeat is so intentional with the way she depicts nudity in both of her movies and the industry needs more of it. Can’t wait to watch that reaction!
@@samanthawilliams549 exactly!!! When Trin was talking about nudity with a purpose. Being such a full frontal film and being so camp at times but also being so meaningful
@@mollythompson4865 I was a huge nerd for Revenge when it first came out and wrote a whole piece about her incredible use of nudity and the male gaze (themes that also show up in The Substance). I’m so glad Fargeat is getting her shine.
Does it have gore? I wanna see it so bad but I cannot handle gore/torture at all.
Omg Trin your hair is insane😍
i genuinely love how she started the movie scared, and ended it by just staring at the screen blankly, unimpressed. I like slasher movies; but that’s really all the first terrifier had going for it. the second one is definitely better when it comes to kills that make sense, and does the campiness better. I understand why people like it so much, but if i wanted to just see pointless gore; i’d watch evil dead.
I think it’s supposed to be off putting and vulgar. The rule essentially in life is no woman or children get harmed they are seen as innocent. So what’s the most vulgar way and grotesque thing we can do to show there are no rules. I think that’s what they did. I wouldn’t be surprised in future films if they castrated dudes and harmed children ngl.
So, this was actually the second film that Art was in. Before this, he was in a film called All Hallows Eve. He harmed children in that movie before this woman. There have been two more Terrifier films since this one. No one is off limits. These movies aren't for everyone, and based off most of the people I have noticed commenting on this video, I am going to say most of her subs are not cut out for this type of horror, but thats okay (:
the director deffo listened to the criticism, and made sure that Art targeted EVERYONE and dehumanised them all 😭
well no. lest we forget what happened to that one girl in her bedroom.
@@cambenji yeah and that guy got his dick ripped off and got his face mangled. your point?
@@cambenji who cares if it's a male or female, just enjoy the movie ffs
I love how blunt you are in this video specially. You are such a queen for watching a movie you hate for your viewers👑
I feel the same way about the portray of women in horror, howeverrrrr .. this franchise is actually not an example of that. The later movies especially the third the director made a point to prove that his nude kills (hand saw scene) are not senseless nudity for women but that he only chooses that for the soul sake of making the scene more horrifying to watch.
it absolutely is an example of it…what? this movie literally proves that. maybe not the later ones, whatever, but it’s bc this movie was shit on rightfully so and the director changed the other movies
@@TomieBlade this movie was made within the view of the entire franchise he didn’t create it as a single project and change his approach after backlash. This charterer has always brutalized all types of people throughout his creation I see what your saying but this is not an ideal and accurate example of what she was talking about. Something like slumber party massacre would be a better example of senseless nudity toward women in horror.
@@shae_t4330 whatever you want to believe
OMG YES TRIN, we are sooo back w the horror films
19:20 this is very real for the genre in general, but especially for this particular franchise. it’s not just about engaging an audience through horror, gore, and jump scares: there is also a very prominent element of showcasing specifically gendered, specifically sexualized violence against women that is sensationalized in a way that is not equally applied to the male characters who are killed in these movies.
i think what i mean to say is that in addition to being gratuitous, it replicates and reinforces violence against women, rather than simply portraying it
No
@@americand0lphin Yes
Why don’t you guys don’t watch it?? theres a scene equivalent to the chainsaw scene in terrifier 3 with a man, stop getting offended by everything holy crap
@@daytonsouthall1137 asking trin (whose job is media critique) not to engage with media critically is crazy work 💀💀
On the topic of women being tortured in graphic ways, I think it's the idea that if a man can hurt a woman or child he can hurt anyone. But you can't show children being harmed in films so women are the next target. If it were just men hacking other men up I think the shock value is less extreme.
Oh, Art harmed children before this movie. It's shock value for sure. Nothing is off limits.
queen u TANKED this for all of us weenies ty once again for the groundbreaking work
im so sorry you had to go through this truly 😭 I thank you for your service as a fellow scared movie watcher
as someone with high blood pressure i was SCREAMING at her freaking out about her perfect bp hdjshdsksk the movie wasn't even that scary anymore
I really dislike this movie, not only is it kinda boring but I HATE the gross sexualization of violence against women
all the movies fucking suck why do people like them😭😭😭not even the gore could make them actually scary movies jeez
Thank you!! 🙏🏻 no plot. Brutality towards women for no reason, no character development. Just gross. Put a bad taste in my mouth and I don’t give a fuck, I any watching the other ones either. I was laughing the first time I watched this movie, up until the pussy sawing scene… after that… I started to have a panic attack and wanted to puke.. I wasn’t okay. And I DON’T mean that as a compliment. 😬
@@Raine-97THE WHAT 💀 IM TOO SCARED TO WATCH THIS VIDEO BUT WHAT THE ACTUAL-
@@Raine-97 the 2nd and the 3rd get's better
I cannot explain how loud I just screamed in my room. I’m excited this is gonna be good
PLEASEEEE WATCH THE SECOND ONE, I promise it’s a lot better!!
Also Art (the clown) WAS a person up until his death, now some demonic entity is working to keep him alive.
the terrifier was probably one of the most rancid movies i’ve ever watched-
Edit because im commenting as im watching: Both sequels do have violence against the penis! :D
I'm definitely with you on the nudity, but I've heard (i think in an interview with the director) that having more clothes on would've made it a lot more difficult to get the shots consistent, and this first movie was very low budget. It's definitely still uncomfortable but it checks out. The sequels are way better in terms of how the female characters are portrayed and killed. The clown is also way sillier in them. :D
I think I was much more worried for the actress talking about having to do the body mold and getting stuck in it for a bit where they almost had to take her to the hospital before they got her out.
Also in the scene where he's literally sawing her in half, the clothes would offer more resistance to the saw so I can kind of understand the way it's laid out.
Thanks for watching. So now I can avoid this and the other two parts of it like a plague. It will never sit right with me when men write torturing women specifically.
Watch 2 and 3 they're actually good movies
@@ethanhart129no
I let out a mischievous chuckle like some sort of villain when I saw the title of this video.
I watch Dead Meat/James A. Janisse's Kill Count videos, and I noticed that there are almost always more male victims in horror movies than female. This really surprised me as a lifelong horror fan, so I started paying attention more to the gender treatment while watching horror movies.
Male victims are almost universally killed very quickly, while female victims have extended chase/torture scenes. (This doesn't just include the Final Girl of the movie.) And the main reason for the gender disparity is that nameless cops in movies are almost always men, and there are TONS of scenes where the killer takes out a bunch of random cops who aren't actual characters.
Women actually consume more horror than men, but the violence and nudity is still noticeably exploited against women.
In the third movie they def took the complaints of people saying art only focuses on attacking and mutilating women. Cause in the third movie the most creative/ brutal kills are now kills that were on men. So the director def listened and grew as a director after the many complaints of the first movie
126 over 80?? baby thats a good blood pressure to have im lost where is the pulse 😭
You bring up a fantastic point about the way women’s bodies are depicted in horror movies and that goes hand in hand with the type of violence being afflicted against women in these movies as well. I think you’d really enjoy The Substance if you haven’t seen it yet!!!
I really love horror, but for some reason, I really CANNOT do gore 😭😭 so I was all about Longlegs when it came out, but you'll NEVER catch me watching the Terrifier movies 💀
sooo glad i didnt watch this movie. and trin u gotta read laura mulvey’s visual pleasure in narrative cinema- it deconstructs the sexualization and exploitation of women in horror for what it is and i just adore !!! i think you’d eat it up. if u need the pdf girl i got u
Ok but how quick I turned this on and will turn on part two if you choose to bless us. Thank you mother 🙏🏼
If you want a good recommendation for male genitalia mutilation/kill to balance that criticism out I’d highly recommend a movie called
“Terrifier 2”.
If it helps he saws a naked man in half with a chainsaw in the 3rd movie
You look so good in this video, as always! Love your videos
I don’t care if you measured your blood pressure I loved it.
So many people talking about her bringing up the nudity, but no one is talking about how that same rant had her saying Art dragged them to his lair…literally the building one went to pee in because the car broke down in front of it. That’s not even the only off thing I heard her say, to where I felt like, “Did she not catch that during editing?”
Another youtuber that watch has been editing the clown from this movie and i saw the second movie being recommended to me on the home page of amazon prime now trin posts this video, I'M SCARED😭😭
Oh this is gonna be a good one
I absolutely adore your reaction to watching this Especially the moments you are clearly offended by. I love your mother! Btw
Trin is literally slaying in this video
Is she taking her BP instead of HR? Yes but it’s okay
She’s just a girl 🧚♀️ ✨
HELP, I'm so terrified (lol) of this movie. I can't handle gore AT ALLLL, but I've been dying to watch a reaction where all the gore is cut out. Guys, is this save for me to watch? I know it's RUclips, but I really don't even wanna see any hints on the extreme brutality 😭
All the visual gore is censored but like sounds and blood are still there so I doubt you wouldn’t still be grossed out
@@muna3033 thank you! Audio gore is somehow no problem for me though
@@ackermammi oh that’s actually the worst one for me. I think I’d actually watch more horror movies if I turned the sound off.
How to people like gore? Like genuinely?? Like horror ca be kinda fun but gore is actually just gross and icky like why would u want to watch that???
I love horror movies but I could never sit through this 😭😭you a real one
18:55 i wrote a portion of my final thesis on this scene!! i completely agree, the portrayal of women's bodies in horror media is so disturbing and can be really dangerous for us in our everyday lives
Have you ever used a saw? They bind up on clothing materials. Would you rather him having to take the saw out and clean the teeth from fabric every couple feet? Nope. Sorry. That's why she's naked. The only one in the movie actually. Hope you failed your thesis on some poor attempt to be smart
portrayal of female nudity has always been unfair in the industry but it's not only on the horror/gore genre, i actually think those 2 are the best because if you watch Terrifier you get Female Nudity but there's also male nudity in films like it, a huge example is the movie ''i spit on your grave'' [amazing saga of movies btw], overall in hollywood you'll never get to see more than a man's ass because the actors don't want to show it and if the role requires it they hire doubles while female actresses have a fucking museum of them naked, the amount of female frontal nudity vs male frontal nudity is ridiculous.
PS: of course i LOVE actors like Barry Keoghan who go full nude and i praise them, this is not something all actors do sadly.
portrayal of nudity*** also don’t make entire paragraphs on topics you have NO business speaking about and know nothing about 😂 you’re WAY too old to be acting like this
You just said I spit on your grave is amazing ?! 😭😨
Her thinking the shit was organs is too funny😭😭
Just wait. I saw the third one last night, and the men … they go through it during that movie let’s just say that. Lmao
FINALLY
you should react to saw next!! the first one is more of a psychological horror. there’s not much gore/torture and the ending is CRAZY
I think that the reason why women are always naked in horror movies is because it displays a different type of vulnerability in a horror movies
Trin at the beginning of the movie: "I hate him"
Her when she realizes the other Characters are dumb: "ok now I'm rooting for him" 😂😂
(Same)
Trin actually getting calmer as the movie goes on. 😂
Never been this early before! Was just looking for something to watch :D Perfect timing! Thank you for your sacrifice Trin!
ok, watched the video and what the fuck even was the movie. Like... I had no expectations for it and I was still disappointed, lmao. Your commentary was fire though! (100% with you on the criticism on how women's bodies are treated, esp in violent media)
i feel the exact same way about the movie.... i've been meaning to watch it but that clown scares me so much lmaooo 😭
The nudity makes sense to me. Much more *terrifying* as well. Alot of the serial killer psychopaths takes off their victims clothes and does something sexual to them. The scene wouldn't have the effect without that nudity
Girl watch Happy Death Day!!!!!
That film is my annual birthday film, I watch it every year on my bday since I’m an October baby 🎃🖤
Half the comment section doesn’t understand what “horror” means. It doesn’t have to fit your standards, it’s going to be shocking and sexualizing because it’s made to disturb you. Thats what makes these movies so scary
I love horror flms and idc about gore but the fact that this movie has a NAKED woman being chainsawed in half makes me never wanna watch it. Apparently the 3rd one has a woman "stimulating" herself with a piece of broken glass. I find those choices very disturbing and they make me question the directors choices cause ..... how do you come up with those and how do u actually think they're good ideas ? I dont think there should be an actual censorship but the fact that a MAN chose to sexualiz3 the torture of women will never sit right with me. I totally agree with everything u said. I've been following u for years and as soon as I saw the upload I knew u would comment on that scene. love u
😂 for the sake of disturbing the viewer and clearly it worked well on you.
I haven’t seen the third one so I can’t comment on that but the girl getting sawed in half is an actual older method for torture/execution.
The third movie also has dicks getting mutilated so like where do we go from there?
You're cherry picking what happens in these movies to support your "argument"
Why don't you actually watch the movies then have an opinion on it
Apparently he’s a supernatural being, which explains his teleportation, he also keeps his victims alive so they can suffer then he decides when they finally die like that’s so fkd
Edit: oh and also he never dies…
Not a professional killer, but I would assume it was easier to use a handsaw on a naked body versus trying to get through clothing as well...🤔
i’m crying at u confusing a blood pressure machine with a heart rate monitor
The murders of Dawn and "Cat Lady", as she is referred to in the credits, are clearly a call back to the inspiration for the Leatherface character in "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre", Wisconsin farmer, grave robber and murderer Ed Gein. He strung up and gutted one of his female victims like deer, and made face masks and at least one female body suit out of the graves he robbed. His two confirmed murder victims were women in the local town his mother had denounced to him while she was alive, the story goes. So if you're wondering where the slasher movie convention on how female bodies are treated when killed, you can blame my home state of Wisconsin. Ed specifically. This year is the 40th anniversary of his death in Madison, Wisconsin at the state mental institution. I was a teen living in Madison at the time, but have no memory of the news of his death.
People saying “he evened the gore out in the other movies between men and women” honestly idgaf the whole plot of brutalizing woman in general is just torture🌽 if you have to strip women naked and drag out their deaths in order to gain any sort of reaction from the audience you’re just a lazy writer
I’m sitting in the corner of my room with my harry potter blanket and my water bottle cowering in fear with you. ☺️🫶🏾
One of my fav horror films- it's the 80's Blob remake. It has equality kills. One hot character, he dies early and brutally and so does the kind bar tender lady. Every victim has equally disturbing deaths from the blob