Great review. I’ve shot the mk5hd for the past 2 seasons and now have 3 rimfire matches on my mk4hd. IMO the mk4hd is a perfect fit for the rimfire world with the ability to parallax down to 25yards. I will say that I think the turrets are better and the glass slightly better on the mk5hd, but not $800 better. Leupold is gonna sell ALOT of these guys!
I was able to look at a mk4 and mk5 side by side with a leupold rep who spent 10-15 mins helping me figure out which one was best for my needs. Long story short, the biggest cost difference is in the lenses coatings. The mk5 meets the military’s abrasion standards with its diamond ceramic something coating. That coating is the bulk of the ball park $1,000 cost difference. The mk4 has a good, but not milspec coating. I went with the mark4 becaise for competition and hunting it seems to be the better scope, and I don’t need milspec abrasion coatings.
The rimfire-unfriendly parallax, the wonky windage mark, and some bad QD experience made me sell my mark5 HD. Loved the glass, loved the elevation turret. I'm very interested in this. Thanks for giving us this review.
The web site only shows the 4.5-18 with the illuminated reticle and electronic level indicator with the PR1 (no Christmas tree) ret. While I don’t use it a lot, I use the Christmas tree enough for those switchy wind calls I’d like to have it. The PR1 is marked with a number every 5 mils not 2 like the others. Also, the mushy turrets where a big letdown when I played with one at a local store. Glass was tough to evaluate bc it was indoors and farthest thing away was only 85 yards.
@@PursuitofAccuracy I was more agreeing with what you said Len (~1:30m in this video) said they dials are not as “clicky” as the Mk5. I do not own a Mk5 and was actually looking to replace my PSTG2 and compared the two scopes in Scheels and liked the turrets on the Vortex a lot more. Maybe mushy was not the right word.
I love mine. My lgs owner thinks this will hurt the mark5 market. Now I can see why. $800 more for a hair bigger tube, a little more adjustability, and same reticle.
Love my mk 5's so thought I'd try out the new mk4 6-24x52. Ordered one up a little over a month ago. First impressions were great, turrets felt same as my mk 5, glass was good but not mk5 good, felt solid... mounted it up on my 7prc and went to the range. First 3 shots were good, 4th and something let go in the tube. Reticle was canted hard one way and the power ring had very little reistance when zooming in and out... sent it to leupold 3 weeks ago and haven't heard anything yet from them. Really hoping the new mk4 isn't following the downward spiral of the old mk4
@PursuitofAccuracy yup, which is concerning cause it's a heavy gun and supressed and the 7prc doesn't have much recoil to begin with. Hoping it's just a fluke...
Great review, Josh. Quick question semi related. When moving scopes between rifles, are you splitting the rings and just moving the scope or does the whole assembly move?
Hey man! I bought my first cz because of you, and started being more serious with my shooting, all thanks to you! I recently bought a CZ 457 MTR, and it shot consistant 0.3-0.4 at 50 yards, then i changed the trigger pull weight on it and now i cant for the life of me get a better group than .9 at 50 yards, with the same ammo, what have i done wrong?
@@leftyo9589 i've tried all the way from 10-30 in/lbs and the im not very impressed at any torque value, i dont know what the factory value was, but when removing them to get to the trigger to change the pull weight, they felt loose, maybe 10ish
Hi Josh. After watching the video, some things bugs me for a 1.5K scope. First, maybe it's the camera, but it seems there's a lot of purple-ish chromatic aberration at "only 167 yards". Second, no flip cap, which is a shame from Leupold, knowing my 600 bucks Sightmark (Presidio in 5-30x56) get them. Then out of curiosity, I went on Leupold's site, and looked at the specs of the biggest Mk4 HD, the 8x32, and compared it to it's bigger sis, the MK5 7-35, but also another banger for the price the Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-36 (you tested the cheaper version, the match pro and said good things on it). With the a limited elevation of 20 mil, and an apparently lower glass quality, I'm hard to convince Leupold will sell a lot of Mk4, at least in 8-32, versus what Bushnell put in front. Good review anyway.
Lots of br guys believe in them. For me and most shooters the wind call and shooting well off whatever your shooting off of will be more significant than projectile variances
The chromatic aberration in the trigger cam footage is disappointing. For some reason it really bothers my eyes and is a major distraction when I see it while I am trying to shoot.
B.S.!!!! I'd buy a Nightforce and get more options and as good if not better glass that's illuminated. That's an $800.00 over priced scope. 6-24 magnification? Please!!!! Why not 4-24 or 5-25????
You aint buying a nf for 1500 bucks For the price point and the glass there has to be a compromise so the 4x magnification is that compromise. My best friend who owns half a dozen atacr’s, beast etc was impressed by the mark 4
No warranty? People have sent 50 year old Leupold scopes back to get repaired under warranty. (If you are being sarcastic, it doesn’t come through in text.)
Great review. I’ve shot the mk5hd for the past 2 seasons and now have 3 rimfire matches on my mk4hd. IMO the mk4hd is a perfect fit for the rimfire world with the ability to parallax down to 25yards. I will say that I think the turrets are better and the glass slightly better on the mk5hd, but not $800 better. Leupold is gonna sell ALOT of these guys!
been waiting for a review of this, thanks as always for your honest opinion!!
Good review thanks Josh! Interested in the 4 x 18 review. Keep 'em coming.
Look forward to hearing more about this one. May have to listen while I’m on the tractor, but I’ll tune in.
Solid review that I've really been looking forward to. Keep up the good work!
Thanks brother
Gotta love Lupold... glad they are making some great scopes at a great price point... thanks Josh, we appreciate you 🫵👍
Thanks brother
I was able to look at a mk4 and mk5 side by side with a leupold rep who spent 10-15 mins helping me figure out which one was best for my needs. Long story short, the biggest cost difference is in the lenses coatings. The mk5 meets the military’s abrasion standards with its diamond ceramic something coating. That coating is the bulk of the ball park $1,000 cost difference. The mk4 has a good, but not milspec coating. I went with the mark4 becaise for competition and hunting it seems to be the better scope, and I don’t need milspec abrasion coatings.
Super helpful thanks!
Great review. I'm looking at the Athlon Helos 6x24x56. Alittle less pricey. I'm sure there are trade-offs, but I think for my application it'll work
Great Scope Review Buddy !
Been waiting for someone who knows their stuff to review this scope.
Are you still waiting? 😂😂😅
The rimfire-unfriendly parallax, the wonky windage mark, and some bad QD experience made me sell my mark5 HD. Loved the glass, loved the elevation turret. I'm very interested in this. Thanks for giving us this review.
I think you will be really happy with the mark 4
Nice video. Thx Josh.
Thanks brother
My Sig Sauer BDX scope has a built in level and I love that feature - I wish all my scopes had it!
Yeah for sure
The web site only shows the 4.5-18 with the illuminated reticle and electronic level indicator with the PR1 (no Christmas tree) ret. While I don’t use it a lot, I use the Christmas tree enough for those switchy wind calls I’d like to have it. The PR1 is marked with a number every 5 mils not 2 like the others. Also, the mushy turrets where a big letdown when I played with one at a local store. Glass was tough to evaluate bc it was indoors and farthest thing away was only 85 yards.
@@agracer1000 yeah wish they had the ilum in the pr2 for sure. Both the ones ive felt had good feeling turrets, surprised you felt one that was mushy
@@PursuitofAccuracy I was more agreeing with what you said Len (~1:30m in this video) said they dials are not as “clicky” as the Mk5. I do not own a Mk5 and was actually looking to replace my PSTG2 and compared the two scopes in Scheels and liked the turrets on the Vortex a lot more. Maybe mushy was not the right word.
@@agracer1000 ah got ya, that makes sense
I love mine. My lgs owner thinks this will hurt the mark5 market. Now I can see why. $800 more for a hair bigger tube, a little more adjustability, and same reticle.
They will take a share of the mk5 market for sure
For the life of me I cannot understand leupold. They have all the components to make a near perfect scope but they choose to never combine them.
Leupold will give you a new cap or get the competition dial its awesome
Will look into that, thanks
Love my mk 5's so thought I'd try out the new mk4 6-24x52. Ordered one up a little over a month ago. First impressions were great, turrets felt same as my mk 5, glass was good but not mk5 good, felt solid... mounted it up on my 7prc and went to the range. First 3 shots were good, 4th and something let go in the tube. Reticle was canted hard one way and the power ring had very little reistance when zooming in and out... sent it to leupold 3 weeks ago and haven't heard anything yet from them. Really hoping the new mk4 isn't following the downward spiral of the old mk4
Sounds like that 7prc knocked the lens loose. Ouch
@PursuitofAccuracy yup, which is concerning cause it's a heavy gun and supressed and the 7prc doesn't have much recoil to begin with. Hoping it's just a fluke...
Great review, Josh. Quick question semi related. When moving scopes between rifles, are you splitting the rings and just moving the scope or does the whole assembly move?
Usually moving scope and rings / mount as 1 unit
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks brother, good shooting
Josh what rear shooting bag do you recommend. I'm no finding a rear rest that is comfortable and I've bought several protector models.
Schmedium gamechanger for props and pint size gamechnger for rear bag only
Straight for base class to open class $$$$
Have you tried an Arken or Vortex sunshade to see if they thread on?
I havent but i will now 😀
Hey man! I bought my first cz because of you, and started being more serious with my shooting, all thanks to you!
I recently bought a CZ 457 MTR, and it shot consistant 0.3-0.4 at 50 yards, then i changed the trigger pull weight on it and now i cant for the life of me get a better group than .9 at 50 yards, with the same ammo, what have i done wrong?
Could be not getting enough ignition, turn the pull weight back up and see if the problem goes away
@@PursuitofAccuracy Could it really be that simple? 😅 i will try it out! Would a timney Trigger make my life easier?
@@G4lt3n its very possible. Ignition is extremely important in a rimfire
could be its not happy with how the action screws are tightened either.
@@leftyo9589 i've tried all the way from 10-30 in/lbs and the im not very impressed at any torque value, i dont know what the factory value was, but when removing them to get to the trigger to change the pull weight, they felt loose, maybe 10ish
Whats the feild of veiw like on this compared to the tract ?
Pretty close but IIRC the mk 4 had slightly more fov
Owned a Mark 5HD- the turrets and reticle gave me wood. I'll just have to mess with one before I buy a Mark 4.
Lol
Hi Josh. After watching the video, some things bugs me for a 1.5K scope. First, maybe it's the camera, but it seems there's a lot of purple-ish chromatic aberration at "only 167 yards". Second, no flip cap, which is a shame from Leupold, knowing my 600 bucks Sightmark (Presidio in 5-30x56) get them.
Then out of curiosity, I went on Leupold's site, and looked at the specs of the biggest Mk4 HD, the 8x32, and compared it to it's bigger sis, the MK5 7-35, but also another banger for the price the Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-36 (you tested the cheaper version, the match pro and said good things on it).
With the a limited elevation of 20 mil, and an apparently lower glass quality, I'm hard to convince Leupold will sell a lot of Mk4, at least in 8-32, versus what Bushnell put in front.
Good review anyway.
The chromatic aberation is the camera for sure. Hard to get good scope cam footage
Very Nice '' Great 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Is the Theos worth the extra cost compared to the new Mark 4?
The theos is amazing, and yes lol
Aiwaa 😘💕👍👍
HEY JOSH SEEN A VIDEO ON 22LR RESIZING DIES... YOUR OPINION 🤔🤔..... MY OPINION GIMMICK.... MAYBE EXPLANATIONAL VIDEO🤔🤔
Lots of br guys believe in them. For me and most shooters the wind call and shooting well off whatever your shooting off of will be more significant than projectile variances
The chromatic aberration in the trigger cam footage is disappointing. For some reason it really bothers my eyes and is a major distraction when I see it while I am trying to shoot.
Yeah I got rid of mine
Have to watch out of the 8-32 model. It only has 20 Mils of adjustment. That's what detoured me from it.
It’s incredibly disappointing : 6x24 has 36 Mil and 8x32 has 20 almost half 😮
NOT AS HUMOROUS AS THE ONE EYE GUY BUT GR8 VIDEO THNX 🤔🤔
Yeah i took the looks and Joe got the comedy…..cant have it all 🤣🤣🤣
I don’t care what you get with the Tarc toric the Leupold it’s American made and the puts it above the rest
Im not knocking the leupold lol. I really think its a great scope at its price point
I see how you work 😏. Never say anything bad about the product. All about the $.
Well since i dont do affiliate sales or make any $$ of any review lol
B.S.!!!! I'd buy a Nightforce and get more options and as good if not better glass that's illuminated. That's an $800.00 over priced scope. 6-24 magnification? Please!!!! Why not 4-24 or 5-25????
You aint buying a nf for 1500 bucks
For the price point and the glass there has to be a compromise so the 4x magnification is that compromise.
My best friend who owns half a dozen atacr’s, beast etc was impressed by the mark 4
You won’t get anything from leupold. No $0.50 sticker. No warranty after your model is no longer made. Never buy another one.
It does come with a sticker 😂
You are wrong sir.
@@CaseyD406 mine came with a sticker. Wait, are we actually arguing about a sticker 😂😂
@@PursuitofAccuracy my bad I ment the other guy was wrong for saying what he said. Mine also came with sticker.
No warranty? People have sent 50 year old Leupold scopes back to get repaired under warranty.
(If you are being sarcastic, it doesn’t come through in text.)
It's the little things that annoy me -- $1500 and they don't give you a sun shade. C'mon man.
That said, seems like a pretty solid option.
Yeah i hear that lol