Performer Reacts to Stray Kids "Back Door" Dance Practice
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you actually have every reason to say it has a musical vibe, they themselves said in an interview that the dance was similar to a musical and that when they saw the sketch of the choreography they were afraid because those were steps they hadn't tried before, but that they rehearsed a lot and put all their energy into it, I love the choreography of stray kids
oh awesome! ya this was so refreshing to see and i’m all for it!!
What interview did they mention it?
may i ask what interview?
I believe they said it during skz room vlive?
@@zuzaj7054 Thank you! I haven't watched it yet
Their energy was so admirable. The whole choreography is so unique and you can know that it has its 'Stay Kids' vibes
"There's no room to breath in this choreography" - and they still manage to have impossibly flawless live vocals!
@@g3ng4r0_ I respect your opinion if you disagree but I have watched MANY live stages in my 10+ years of listening to Kpop and SKZ have some of the most stable live vocals. Of course they're not 100% perfect every time no one is.
@@g3ng4r0_ ahhhh yes I should have chosen my words more carefully but I hang onto what I said especially during the last hook in which they bend down and up it's SO hard to have stable vocals even with proper technique it's insane how good Chan handles that part (and without in-ears).
@@g3ng4r0_ lmao in any case Stray Kids are great
The don't sing live lmfao
@@svellah4388 you need to check your eyes bestie
They sing live most of the time
Even recording played in the bd they still sing thier verse
According to my calculation, you said 'musical theater' 4 times throughout the video. Your welcome.
4 shots everyone! 😂
💀💀💀😂😂😂
*me, a muslim*
"4 shots... whaaaa?"
*has 4 shots of espresso coffee at 12:45 am instead*
💀💀💀💀💀
@@Jasmine_1308 lol same i feel u
@@Jasmine_1308 I took 4 screen*shots* as a muslim
didnt he say it 5 times?
Am I the only one that thinks Seungmin improved so much in dancing?
Like he has so much more energy than before!
I’m so proud of him! :)
yes! since gods menu i’ve been focusing on his dancing a lot more. he became a lot more powerful and confident in his moves, it’s so attractive 😍
AGREED
For real! He looks amazing while dancing, his facial expressions are just,,,,,omg I fall in love again
YES
Yes he's the next danceracha member lol
pretty sure the reference to the painting “the creation of Adam” was intentional 😂😂😂
What I rlly appreciate abt Skz is that they always try to incorporate some humor into their choreos, check out Awkward Silence or the dance battle they did with YG trainees (pre debut)
HAHA ya after looking at the image again i was like yup they did THAT
true, I knew I was gonna stan them after I saw that dance battle, they're really creative
seungmin went HARD on this one tho,,,he's improved so much since debut im so proud of him,,,seungmin deserves so much more love and attention, esp from the fandom. he's so talented and is an all rounder too, and he was even the only member aside from 3racha that was never at risk of being eliminated, he's always super stable live, the list goes on. stays, appreciate kim seungmin!!! he's our main vocalist, but stays would rather talk about everyone else's vocals than his (which, like i love, bc everyone in skz is talented as fuck but i just WISH we would give seungmin's vocals the attention he deserves, he's our fucking main vocalist for god's sake). this man drives himself to such a level of perfection only to not get the praise he deserves, i mean we all collectively love young wings, but seungmin still thinks he could have done better even though it was already perfect and its already been 3 years.THAT'S the kind of person and artist he is. anyway, stan king seungmin
I appreciated seungmin's harmonies in particular so much in their online unveil, he really is sooo skilled at singing and his grace in movement in his solo here was amazing too
This is Seungmin's era imo. I feel like he's gotten a bit more attention this comeback, and dude I have never been this bias wrecked by him :')
I'm a seungmin biased and I agree with you. Hyunjin said Seungmin hard carried them in this one based on what I saw from translations
eye ok this is Seungmin’s era period I’m so glad too because he hardly ever gets eras (I also think it’s hyunjin’s era kinda cuz his dancing and verses popped off) and my inner seungmin and hyunjin stan is screaming cuz sksvhebejdhdidoslsl (btw seungmin biased wrecked his way to bias and now I am double biased, I wasn’t sure before but now I am hehe)
I'm getting OT8 wrecked by him in this eraaaa
12:34
*Felix even said that God's Menu was so memorable and he was nervous if he suddenly dance God's Menu instead of Back Door lol*
😂😂
Back door is one of my favorite stray kids songs! It has such a energetic and rich? vibe. It just makes me feel like I am a corporate business owner.
8:28 it's The Creation of Adam by Michelangelo!! And yes i think that's the reference for it.
Btw great analysis as always! It really feels like a musical and this is what i love abt them, they're not afraid to do things that aren't as conventional for them.
jam jam yeah I was gonna say that, not Jesus 😂 also discovered today that clc's helicopter mv references it too!
I still can't get over how they incorporated Minho's predebut famous hands pose in this choreo (at 0:13 MV) hahahahahhaha
It’s also in the Easy choreography. They won’t let it go neither will us stays 😂😂
HOW DIDNT I NOTICEEE
TF HOW DIDNT I SEE THIS
Isn't that also in miroh as well
3:13 there's also Seungmin jumping into the wall because he ran out of room, I think it was a bit cleaner when they performed on stage and had the space
(I love your videos by the way! I love hearing the insights)
really looking forward to what muply does and maybe studio choom??
12:26 I can't agree more with this statement, i mean this choreo is totally insane like REALLY INSANE,, but im not sure that this song and choreo will be as popular as gods menu like jeff said in here,, but if this not as popular as gods menu, it doesn't mean that this choreo are worse than it,, both are in different 'dimension' that you can't compare each other 👍 (bad english alert haha)
I'm a big fan of the knocking move..
Also, they just do so good each time!-
i love the knocking move too!
The imagery you're referring to is the famous painting of "The Creation of Adam" by Michelangelo
YESSS THAT ONE 😂
JESUS
I was so mesmerized when I saw in the mv that I felt like "this group have art in everything they do".
Seungmini is really just something in every sense of his amazing sense of rhythm, the clarity of his movements can only be envied, and the level of plasticity is God, which is why he often performs some movements faster than other members. Undoubtedly, such choreographies as "EASY" "BACK DOOR" "CASE 143" "S-CLASS" "GET LIT" were created especially for him. This unreal vibe feeling that comes from Seungmini during the dance cannot be confused with anything else. And his ideal body proportions, a truly divine figure and visual "tall stature, wide shoulders with a back, a chic waist and long legs" add
even more effect.
I don't know if you will see this but I'm dying to ask since I'm no dancer in any sense. I've seen lots of people commenting on the dance practice saying that Lee Know should have had more spotlight since he is the main dancer of the group but he was in the back most of the time. Idk why but I feel that he was meant to be placed behind because he needs to support his members from the back. It's just my opinion according to what I see as a non-performer, but what's your opinion on that?
Febe Kartika yes! SKZ doesn’t do anything willy nilly. Everything move they make is thoroughly planned and executed. There’s a reason for everything and we have to trust that SKZ and those around them are making the best decisions for the group as a whole. And I say all this being Minho biased. I want a killing part, dance break, insane styling moment, etc. for him in a title track as much as anyone else but I also fully trust SKZ’s vision and know that they have a purpose for all things!
OMG this is an amazing question and i haven't thought about this, maybe that's the reason for minho to be in the back and finally someone says something good about It, i hope he can see this coment !!!
@@veryferal1970 I agree, I feel like most who are Minho biased wanted more screentime and lines and rightfully so. However, I think with placing him in the back of the group was done on purpose ... I have faith that there is a reason why he isn't being centered. Perhaps he will be center in the next coming MVs from the album??
I am Minho biased and I agree
I think they planned it considering who can bring most impact in every moves, and Lee Know's style of dancing doesn't really match hard-hitting choreography. His dance imo is more focused in fluidity, it really shows in his skz player videos, hence why he was given more center position in choreography like "Easy".
i like how stray kids being stray kids and not following the trend. after a long journey of kpop i felt there was something about stray kids, stan stray kids guys :}
The choreo so satisfying🔥
Y’all seungmin jeongin and hyunjin ate this choreo imo 😗😗 i do be staring at them the whole time
Can we also talk about how good of a performer Hyunjin is. He has been getting so much attention from me since he released a modern dance video. His stage presence is so good and he adds his style to the choreo really well. He knows his strengths and isn't afraid to show it. Also his dynamics makes his dancing so entertaining to watch.
The Hyunjin focus cam of this song is crazyyyy , he is an amazing performer !!!
The Creation of Adam! I thought the same! Changbin an Minho shine in this.
For me the most memorable part of the choreography was the chorus, the hand movements of lee know during his singing part, and also the first part of the chorus with Hyunjin's wrists knocking before going into lee know's part.
At this point "stray kids vibes" is key phrase for unique
This was such a great analysis, I enjoyed every moment of this!
They practiced with foreign choreographers and they said like it was a different experience too. btw don't mind doing breakdowns and all that. We love your insights and the way you get excited with the references and use terms and technicality, I think we can learn way more with all that!
I am a former theatre performer, and honestly, this whole choreo does screams broadway. from their formation to blocking to the timing. them being playful and their pose it does scream theatre and I am genuinely happy about that.
Edit: what you are referring to the choreo about hyunjin and seungmin's part is in reference to Michelangelo's "the creation of adam"
IM SO GLAD you do these videos it makes me open my eyes to the choreos and see details i never even thought of !!
Jeff :"I am starting to think this is a harder CHOREO than God's menu"
This is exactly what skz said in 1 of their videos, the CHOREO looks easy but it is not as easy as it seems & it requires lots of effort ♡
It's so nice of you to always point out what and how we should do certain moves in case we do a cover :)
Great reaction!! Thank you sooooo much!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
i have to say that i LOVE your reaction videos because i actually learn new stuff about their performance, even down to the little details that i wouldn't have noticed myself. plus, i love listening to you talk and analyse the movements 🥰 this was very informative and it made me see the choreo in a new light so thank you for this ;;
this is hands down one of my favorite choreographies ever... it reminds me of swing dance and jazz
that's why they are Stray Kids. they did it for them, they like to make new experience and it stills amazes me everytime
As soon as I saw this MV and realised how 'musical theatre' it was, I immediately couldn't wait to see your reaction! Knew you'd have fun with it. So fun, and so unique to SKZ!
Your eyes were so quick and I love your analysis on every part! I am a new subscriber but I love you now!
Came here to say i was from chan's vlive and he noticed your reaction!!! He said thank you and i also thank you for supporting our boys! 💖
Finally!!! I've been waiting for this reaction since the dance practice was uploaded. 😊😊😊
Thank you for appreciating all the details in Skiz choreography. I would have missed out without your explanation. Skiz is one of a kind!!!!
I'm very impressed by you, sir! You're the first "reactor" I saw, who can name all our boys correctly. Your analysis is interesting and entertaining at the same time. Please keep up the good work! Greetings from Austria!
This analysis was so helpful I was looking forward to it I knew it would be so very explanatory and helpful and I enjoyed it very much that you
after watching your analysis im convinced that this is their most complicated choreo.
New drinking game:
-Jeff references knees: one shot
-Jeff says he doesn’t like knee work: one shot
-Jeff makes a reference but can’t remember the whole thing he’s trying to reference or what it is called: two shots
-Jeff pauses to thirst: two shots
Yes yes yes! As an art nerd, I LOVE the fact that they reference "The Creation of Adam" painting in the dance
omg im always excited when i get a notification
that is what i love about skz on how they incorporate many ideas on their prodcution and choreos... they are very unique and one of a kind kpop group!
WTH!!! i wait for your video to start.. and then I get Back Door MV as my ads!!💕💕💕 I'm blessed!!😭😭
Chan said thanks to all the reactors who reacted to their MV. and i think he mentioned you 🤧❤️
I love ur reactions thanks for reacting once again
i just came across your video and i love the way you went into detail in the choreo! your analysis felt really genuine and there were some constructive feedbacks too. keep it up!
When he said musical theater I thought of grease and now I can’t unsee it, especially with there outfits in the music video
Always waiting your reaction for my fave groups. Thanks Jeff~ ❤
This choreography had so many jazz, musical elements. I love it!
thank you for breaking this choreo down! i can definitely appreciate it more now :D
the way this video made me realize this choreography is SO musical theater... HOW DID I NOT SEE-
Jeff totally agree with everything you said comparing Gods Menu to Back Door. Gods menu stuck (catchy) immediately but after listening to this song time & time again .... just wow. Love the choreo so much more in back door ♥️
as a dancer, this choreo looks like so much fun,, i wish i had a group to do it with aa
I can die in peace now that i have something that relates stray kids to newsies and musical theater
Omg NEWSIES YASSSS!!! I forgot all about that I was so hung up on the fact that especially at the end I just want to SWING sooooo...bad to this! We were so into that about 10 years ago I even learned some of the flips & that "8 turns in one motion"...actually has a name I forget....but this is giving me really hard "old school" Swing vibes.
But the music video just screams "Step up 4"...the museum prank scene. Isn't that where they got the idea? LOVED it!!!
i never knew why i liked this song so much other than it being an obvious bop until you brought up the fact that it had musical theater undertones... it makes so much sense, i love musical theater 😂😂
I love the little Charleston-y floor tapping bits.
Could you react to the series "how good is ... in dancing?" from the the channel on the scene?
This series basic analysis kpop dancers by a dancer (till now taemin - shines, Kai -exo , jhope - bts, Momo - twice, sinb- gfriend, seulgi- red velvet, yugyeom- got7, Chungha, hyoyeon- SNSD/ girls generation got analyzed)
i’ll take a look and add them as i make my way down the list! 😁
stray kids and newsies the comparison i never knew i needed :') i love it
YOOO it's so true that it reminds me of Newsies, especially the end! Also the arches at 6:36 give me big Folkdance Energy lmao
Always waiting for his reaction videos!! 😍😍
YES when i saw this choreo the first thing i thought was newsies!!
I love how interesting everything is. My favorite is the Felix spin / kick. It takes a formation where you're supposed to naturally look center, and pulls your attention to the right and it's so unique in kpop.
I was waiting for this!!!!
I saw they had posted the dance practice and couldn’t wait for you to react.
One word to describe whoever made the choreo of this song: GENIUS
Stray kids is trending everywhere!!!! this is really something i’m so proud of stays
Just wow. The ad is Back Door MV. I can't skip
I love your videos Jeff!
The turn they do in the beginning is a an en dehors jazz pirouette. The difference between a jazz and a ballet pirouette isn't the direction (en dehors "outward" or an dedans "inward") it's the placement of the passé and the prep. Ballet pirouettes are turned out in both the prep and the passe while a jazz pirouette is turned in and parallel in both the prep and passe.
Also, the moves they do in the break down at the end are heavily inspired by the Charleston and the move that gave "taekwando" energy seems to be a house step, or at least similar.
Great stuff though! You are totally on point with the musical theater references. This feels like a combo of newsies, kiss me Kate, and west side story. Definitely some Fosse references in there.
These guys are gonna be legends. I feel it
I love that several moves remind me of old hollywood musicals like gene kelly and Fred Astaire. Especially Felix’s kick at the end.
thank god i watched your reaction. i've been looking for the word/s that describe their choreography which is musical theatre. their choreo is so playful like ballet hiphop. i don't know but it's like a Step Up movie when a ballet dancer and a hiphop dancer combine their dance moves.
oh my goshh!! i didn't notice that you're almost to 100k until you mentioned itt!! omg I'm so happy for you!! glad to be here since your early days 😆
anybody else like me??
When they devided in two units the movements reminded me a lot of west side story
i love this choreo so much because it seems so easy but it's really not and the musical theatre flare always does wonders to sell a performance for me i LOVE it.
i wish you could see minho more during the more dance heavy parts since for example that pop you pointed out with jeongin when minho does it in his solo fancam he really HITS that so hard that somehow the hit in the song seems more emphasized and i'd love to have heard your opinion on it but 🤷♀️
thank you for the reaction tho! i actually loved how many times you had to pause and rewind for so many parts of the song because it's just that good i'm so excited to see what they'll come up with next
stray kids dance practice always amazed me
That's right. I. N. Supremacy everyone. Underrated dancer.
I rly love the song it kinda gives me jazz bar vibes
Do you know how happy I was when you commented on i.n because he stood out ??? he always gets criticized for his dancing and I felt really proud when you kind of complimented him.
The choreo is so quick 😳 I would get the steps so confused damn so much more details than I thought
Its a jazz pirouette, its parallel. Ballet pirouette turn out at the knee. The diff between jazz and ballet is not about preparation, its about the turning in or out
"There's no room to breath in this choreography" what a relatable words😂 i can only dance the knock knock part lol
I’m not sure if you know but Sienna Lalau, the one who helped choreographed BTS On and a bunch of other kpop groups helped choreograph this too!
One thing about straykids is you can't guess what will happen next. And their choreography is noy for beginner like me. Hahah It's fast and hard. It's beautiful and has a lot of things happening
SKZ breaking boundaries.
Self producing, out of the box songs and choreo.
I'm so proud to be a STAY
The whole turn thing at 4:30, (having done jazz and Ballet), Chan wasn't turning his legs out which is what ballet turns are like in retiré, as jazz turns are parallel (or turned in), and still have their legs up by their knee, usually. Pencil turns or turns in cou du pied are turns where the working foot rests on the ankle which is an entirely different thing. Also, he mentioned that for either jazz or ballet, it was confusing and hard to tell which was which, one of them turn 'backwards'. So, in my experience of jazz we usually turn 'outwards' which is the same thing as backward except you can't really spin 'backwards'. SO outwards, as in away from the supporting leg. In ballet, we turn both outwards (away from the supporting leg, called on
en dehors) and inwards, (towards the supporting leg, called En Dedans). Also, you don't necessarily need a 'preparation' to start a turn, usually only a plie (bend) in some sort of fourth, (or a wide leg stance, either turned out- usually ballet, or parallel- jazz) or a fifth/third. And from what I could tell, Chan started his turn from a very brief, turned in fourth. It was only small and not technical, but I believe it was there.let
West Side Story. Choreo, MV camera movement, editing, and part of wardrobe all remind me of west side story. Some of the footwork also reminds me of Damn Yankees (hold upper stiff while twisting and pivoting from waist down), very Bob Fosse -ish.
It seems that Seungmin does not make a
drop of effort as far as natural clear and
clean his movements skills and skill are
at the highest level.
The way that he mocked Felix at the end😂 I just can't with this dude😂😂
How did I not think of Newsies while watching this ??? omg ??? this made it 20x better oml
That sequence with seungmin and hyunjin is reminiscent of *Creation of Adam*
That reference alone blows my mind
Check out their predebut dance in JYP vs YG battle. They have always been so creative with their choreos.
Sierra Lalau choreographed this one. She also did God’s Menu, On, etc. She is with The Lab in LA.
SKZ = Perfection. Change my mind.