I own 72 acres of woods & burn firewood in SW Wisconsin. I bought a new Jonsered CS-2152C in 2005, and it has been my primary firewood chainsaw since that time. I do 90% of my firewood cutting with it. It's only been to a shop once, and that was to find a used muffler bolt that I lost. Once we found a matching bolt at the shop I took it back home. I have done a muffler mod & removed the limiters. .325" pitch, .050"gauge, 18" bar with a semi-chisel chain is my preference. Using it never wears me out. I have added my dad's 2004 CS-2165 to my group of saws this past year, but I still like the CS-2152C for most stuff. I haven't bought a saw since 2005, because I've never seen the need since buying my CS-2152C. It does what I want from a chainsaw, & I wouldn't trade it for anything else.
I must agree. Bought a plastic handled 340 in a basket and slapped a 52cc - $20 P&C on it. Mild porting, MM, adjustable oiler, flat piece from another handle added to stabilize it on the ground, 359 intake, flippy cap. Find myself grabbing it more than the other 50cc saws. Built three on that chassis buying used parts that seemed to have dried up.
I think you got a solid plan going on 👍🏻 . I went down that path one time, getting a NLA piston made. Went smoothly, sent a NOS piston out to be made in India I think it was. Got my piston back plus the first one of the line. Hopefully you'll have great luck too!!!
My Pop's Husqvarna 350 with 346xp cylinder/piston, ported muffler, and 357 carb is my favorite saw to run. Totally whoops on my Echo CS-490 in cut speed and anti-vibe. I've been looking to build another, but even a worn out 350 holds a high value on the used market. Excited for the CS-2511 clone from NeoTec too! You should bring along your CS-4310sx to china as well ;) Might be the only way americans get access to a 4310... I too was cranky to see the 450 clone, when they could have at least cloned the plastic 350
@@Tim_othy87 the piston/cylinder are a direct replacement to a 350 cylinder and piston. The 346xp is higher revving and more powerful, but the same CC. I did the swap because the 350 was scored up from the intake boot wearing out, causing an air leak and leaned out the saw.
Looking at saws in a small shop and the owner had a cs2152c someone ordered and never picked up. Highly recommended it and gave me a good deal so had him set it up. Always bought Husky but this is the best cutter I've tried in a 50cc. 18in Total bar and not sure a better firewood saw has been made. I've not found a need for any mods yet. Yellow birch, maple and beech. Just chews through them. Power and weight are a perfect match. Please a clone of this saw!
I can’t remember Johnson red saw model numbers but Johnson red 50cc saws were very popular in my area including Husqvarna. But the newer saws they made around 2006 you couldn’t keep the muffler on them. Was a huge complaint in my area. Allen keys bolts would back off and you keep tightening them and after awhile you strip the threads in the cylinder. Then you heli-coil them and the same thing. I ran them growing up and I’d say the husqvarna was better just for that reason. I was even going to buy one but they were sold out and I couldn’t get one in short notice so I bought a dolmar 5100s and that was a good saw. I had Zero issues with that saw. Bought it in 2006 and I still own it to this day. Cut lots of firewood and saw mill logs. It’s a bit harder on fuel but it’s a hot rod in my opinion compared to most 50cc saws. I own 13 saws and my father has 12 I’m sure. He’s got husqvarna,Johnson red,echo. He like them all but his husqvarna 50 special is his favourite firewood saw and gave him very little problems since new. I don’t even own a Johnson red just because of that stupid muffler coming loose issue. My dad also has a 45 or 46cc Johnson red and the cylinder came loose on that saw. Bolts come up through the bottom. But he likes that saw and it been good only from that and a pull cord housing I believe
Please note that the intake boot clamp needs to be upgraded and the exhaust bolts need to be locked. They were known to loosen and cause melting of case .
You can still buy the Husqvarna 353 from Brazil. I have a 2023. The best thing is anything that was wrong with it was fixed. New metal clamp on intake, the oiler is upgraded and has a easy adjustable 21 spline carburetor.
I've seen that the Duke seems to be importing them. I've considered getting one, but just have no need. If it was red... I would have already purchased though. Also, too bad it isn't a 346xp.
My old H 450xp (non rancher) still rocks, but newer not much heavier higher HP options are used more often. Hmmm maybe a 'best' 50cc class saw that can be maintained absent a modern computer, & electricity makes sense in modern future times or out in the bush.
@@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws allegedly, I could have put a 346 cylinder on that 351 and then I’d have a 346. It’s the same platform to my understanding, similar to how 365-372 is.
hey, i bough a 346 cylinder + piston for my 2152 Jred. The local dealer tried to fit it on my saw, but said it wouldnt fit, that it was too small ? :( could it be a old versoin of the 346 cylinder i got?
Hi, 346 first edition is 45cc. Model 2. Is little over 50cc, rpm is lower, piston is little bigger, canksaft and bearing bigger😊Bout these is legend. Jonsered come this time same line in Sverige.
Have fun in China! Kinda cool project. Isn't there already a 346 clone - the Neotec NH-843, although I haven't seen one for sale for a while (I have one, it runs pretty good - not ported yet - closed port with bolt on transfer caps. I think Charles Brisco ported one for Indiana Doug, and I think the china wrist pin washers get destroyed in the faster builds, and you need to put stock washers in). I haven't run the 550 mk 2 (but have a Jonsred 2260 which is similar), and my Jonsred will definitely outcut that 2152 by a big margin. It is autotune though, and I haven't seen any autotune clones yet? But, that is a great light weight saw, and they could just put a regular carb on it, and hopefully a less restricted muffler - it would be totally worth the few hundred if they did a nice job of it. Love the Dubbs shirt!
Probably a terrible time to try considering all the clone saws and their growth. So while I would love it, $ wise, probably not so great.. but who knows.
I always thought that it would be great if they would clone the more sought after top end variants. Potential cash grab for them there honestly. Also wish they would clone a Dolmar 7900!
Challenge accepted... - The McCulloch 10-10 never had a 50cc version. The smallest I know of was 54cc. Therefore no matter what your opinion may be... you are wrong. Never was, nor will it ever be considered the best 50cc saw. Because it isn't.
We're lucky to have the OPTIONS to argue about wether the 026, 501p, 346xp, 545/550, 261, etc. etc. is superior. Honestly... I like them all. I just like 50cc saws for a "general purpose" saw. Slower for bigger wood, heavy for light work, but they can do SO much.
026's are great little saw's I have two of them, but their anti-vibe suck compared to the Jonsered/Husqvarna saw's and yes I own and run all three brand's in these 50cc class.
As far as I know, airlines won’t let you fly with an engine. Maybe it’s just Alaskan. Also anyone but me ever wonder why China can sell a non EPA saw but the European manufacturers can’t? Hmm…. Probably something suspicious going on there. Anyway, if they want to clone something, they need to clone the old Silvey Razur sharp II chisel chain grinder. Need a quality motor and good diamond dressing wheels but price a new simington and it shouldn’t be difficult at all to make a good quality grinder at a price point that will sell 👍🏼👍🏼
Perhaps what you meant to say is “what was the best 50cc saw that is out of patent and can be cloned”. Because I can’t believe anyone would argue that the 346/2153 is BETTER than the 550xp. Great saws and were the best. Just not anymore. Not that it’s worth selling and upgrading but if you need to replace the 550 is the way to go.
Many people would still argue the 346xp is better than the 550xp. Sure, the 550xp is fast, but it has real problems and are not know to last very long. The 346xp is old school and can last for thousands of hours of working time. You can't say that about the 550xp. Most of them burn up before 200 hours of service. Sure, some can last longer... but none will last as long as the 346xp if given appropriate care. That is why it is still #1 to many.
@@novicelumberjack I have had great luck with them except for one. That one has no usable parts on it. Crushed and destroyed. I actually didn’t know why it was kept. I said the only thing good on it was the flippy caps. I thought this to be true until the 562 came out of the bucket at the end of a cut. Landed straight on the handle. Got a used tank same day from local husky dealer. Lady at counter actually took it off the saw. Took back to work the next day and it didn’t run. Turned out I didn’t notice the auto tune device on carb had broke. Well low a behold that 550 with only flippy caps good on it had that piece and it’s the same # as the 562. A couple bolts here and there left. Everything else junk! 562 is probably the most popular saw around here in the woods. My 346 was stolen but I also have a modded 55 that runs good but just not as nimble as the 550 or 346. I have not experienced the longevity issues but on a normal day I have the 562 in my hands.
@collinjhuls That's awesome. Very good to hear positive stories like that. What climate are you in? Maybe they don't last as long in hot climates. I know they run extremely hot for me here in Atlanta. You should have some scanned to see how much run time you are getting from them. For me... I could use one saw for the rest of my life and may never hit 200 hours of run time. So it isn't a big deal. But for a pro, they may put that much time on them in a year. And that is nowhere near enough time for an expensive pro saw to last.
I definitely saw that on ebay after I made the video, but the ad wasn't real specific. 44.3mm was in the ad that I saw claiming it would work, but it was a piston and cylinder combo. So... might be 44.3, might not. At least, that's how I saw it. Do you know if they are legit 44.3?
@@georgesjunk No, I don´t mean to be uptight but like you know there is a lot more to a chainsaw than just the piston and cylinder. Everything is differnt except for inlet, piston, crank and cylinder. Btw not sure if the 55 ever was delivered as a closed port 44mm like 5000+. The 55 is a heavy, clumsy saw compared to the 5000+
No your not the smartest , and hait to burst your bubble but there people that been using the 455 and 460 clutch covers way before you got into the chainsaw world bud , all my 350 series saws have them and all my jonsered saws have them I even have the paint color code and a local powder coat company that does them for me , so have a nice day 😁
The smart thing wasn't running a Rancher clutch cover, it was sending the saw with the Rancher clutch cover to get cloned. Understand? If I do this, I am not gonna send them a stock Jonsered 2152. I will try to address any problems that people like you have figured out to be great bolt-on fixes. Rancher clutch cover, already opened up and modified exhaust, and possibly even 357xp intake and carb. So that when they clone it, they will be cloning an already lightly modified saw. That's the ticket.
I own 72 acres of woods & burn firewood in SW Wisconsin. I bought a new Jonsered CS-2152C in 2005, and it has been my primary firewood chainsaw since that time. I do 90% of my firewood cutting with it. It's only been to a shop once, and that was to find a used muffler bolt that I lost. Once we found a matching bolt at the shop I took it back home. I have done a muffler mod & removed the limiters. .325" pitch, .050"gauge, 18" bar with a semi-chisel chain is my preference. Using it never wears me out. I have added my dad's 2004 CS-2165 to my group of saws this past year, but I still like the CS-2152C for most stuff. I haven't bought a saw since 2005, because I've never seen the need since buying my CS-2152C. It does what I want from a chainsaw, & I wouldn't trade it for anything else.
👍🆙DH, always nice 2 see you comment!
@@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws Thanks!
@@driftlesshunter9200 😁👊DH
the only 50cc. saw I own and have experience with is. husky 550xp mark 2. . I absolutely love it
I must agree. Bought a plastic handled 340 in a basket and slapped a 52cc - $20 P&C on it. Mild porting, MM, adjustable oiler, flat piece from another handle added to stabilize it on the ground, 359 intake, flippy cap. Find myself grabbing it more than the other 50cc saws. Built three on that chassis buying used parts that seemed to have dried up.
I think you got a solid plan going on 👍🏻 . I went down that path one time, getting a NLA piston made. Went smoothly, sent a NOS piston out to be made in India I think it was. Got my piston back plus the first one of the line. Hopefully you'll have great luck too!!!
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Hope neotech and you make it happen cause that would be epic. Best of luck
I have 9 saws, but my oldest and still favorite is my 346xp. So good chose.
Agreed. They need to make a good 50cc clone. I'd love to see a 357xp clone!
You need to bring this idea to reality. I’d buy one in a heartbeat especially if it comes a bit spicy out of the box.
Nice shirt!! 😊 I agree they are the very best saw in their class. 👍🏻
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My favorite is the 2153... specifically 🥰😁
My Pop's Husqvarna 350 with 346xp cylinder/piston, ported muffler, and 357 carb is my favorite saw to run. Totally whoops on my Echo CS-490 in cut speed and anti-vibe. I've been looking to build another, but even a worn out 350 holds a high value on the used market.
Excited for the CS-2511 clone from NeoTec too! You should bring along your CS-4310sx to china as well ;) Might be the only way americans get access to a 4310...
I too was cranky to see the 450 clone, when they could have at least cloned the plastic 350
@ericfore - was it easy swapping over the 346xp cylinder/piston, out of interest what;s the advantage , does it increase the cc ?
@@Tim_othy87 the piston/cylinder are a direct replacement to a 350 cylinder and piston. The 346xp is higher revving and more powerful, but the same CC.
I did the swap because the 350 was scored up from the intake boot wearing out, causing an air leak and leaned out the saw.
Looking at saws in a small shop and the owner had a cs2152c someone ordered and never picked up. Highly recommended it and gave me a good deal so had him set it up. Always bought Husky but this is the best cutter I've tried in a 50cc. 18in Total bar and not sure a better firewood saw has been made. I've not found a need for any mods yet. Yellow birch, maple and beech. Just chews through them. Power and weight are a perfect match. Please a clone of this saw!
They make a west coast large falling dogs for the 350 series saws that'll fit the jonsered saws also
I can’t remember Johnson red saw model numbers but Johnson red 50cc saws were very popular in my area including Husqvarna. But the newer saws they made around 2006 you couldn’t keep the muffler on them. Was a huge complaint in my area. Allen keys bolts would back off and you keep tightening them and after awhile you strip the threads in the cylinder. Then you heli-coil them and the same thing. I ran them growing up and I’d say the husqvarna was better just for that reason. I was even going to buy one but they were sold out and I couldn’t get one in short notice so I bought a dolmar 5100s and that was a good saw. I had Zero issues with that saw. Bought it in 2006 and I still own it to this day. Cut lots of firewood and saw mill logs. It’s a bit harder on fuel but it’s a hot rod in my opinion compared to most 50cc saws. I own 13 saws and my father has 12 I’m sure. He’s got husqvarna,Johnson red,echo. He like them all but his husqvarna 50 special is his favourite firewood saw and gave him very little problems since new. I don’t even own a Johnson red just because of that stupid muffler coming loose issue. My dad also has a 45 or 46cc Johnson red and the cylinder came loose on that saw. Bolts come up through the bottom. But he likes that saw and it been good only from that and a pull cord housing I believe
Intake boot like the 350s??
I'll take a 4910/501 or 254xp for my pick of 50cc saws
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I have cs310 a 30cc makita and a 24 year old 290. I'm looking at a clone g288 with a 28" bar and chain.
Holy cow! that's exciting news😃👍🏻
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How about a link to find all the information on this saw
Thats my kind a thinking would be an awsome clone
I agree with it being the best 50 made.
👍🆙MH
Please note that the intake boot clamp needs to be upgraded and the exhaust bolts need to be locked. They were known to loosen and cause melting of case .
You can still buy the Husqvarna 353 from Brazil. I have a 2023. The best thing is anything that was wrong with it was fixed. New metal clamp on intake, the oiler is upgraded and has a easy adjustable 21 spline carburetor.
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I've seen that the Duke seems to be importing them. I've considered getting one, but just have no need. If it was red... I would have already purchased though. Also, too bad it isn't a 346xp.
@@novicelumberjack Buy 2 along w/ Duke's 346xp P/C, port and sell 1, it's 4 the channel right😁
@@novicelumberjack yeah that’s where I purchased mine from. I would love to get a new addition, 346XP myself.
My old H 450xp (non rancher) still rocks, but newer not much heavier higher HP options are used more often. Hmmm maybe a 'best' 50cc class saw that can be maintained absent a modern computer, & electricity makes sense in modern future times or out in the bush.
Boedy, what’s the Jonsered version of the Husky 351? I used to have a 351 that I let slip out of my hands, so I’m just curious.
If so, what is the difference between them?
@@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws allegedly, I could have put a 346 cylinder on that 351 and then I’d have a 346. It’s the same platform to my understanding, similar to how 365-372 is.
@@ToddAdams1234 👍🆙TA
Husky 351 would be a Jred 2149
hey, i bough a 346 cylinder + piston for my 2152 Jred. The local dealer tried to fit it on my saw, but said it wouldnt fit, that it was too small ? :(
could it be a old versoin of the 346 cylinder i got?
Any 346 piston and cylinder will work. My guess... your dealer is mistaken.
Hi, 346 first edition is 45cc. Model 2. Is little over 50cc, rpm is lower, piston is little bigger, canksaft and bearing bigger😊Bout these is legend. Jonsered come this time same line in Sverige.
Have fun in China! Kinda cool project. Isn't there already a 346 clone - the Neotec NH-843, although I haven't seen one for sale for a while (I have one, it runs pretty good - not ported yet - closed port with bolt on transfer caps. I think Charles Brisco ported one for Indiana Doug, and I think the china wrist pin washers get destroyed in the faster builds, and you need to put stock washers in). I haven't run the 550 mk 2 (but have a Jonsred 2260 which is similar), and my Jonsred will definitely outcut that 2152 by a big margin. It is autotune though, and I haven't seen any autotune clones yet? But, that is a great light weight saw, and they could just put a regular carb on it, and hopefully a less restricted muffler - it would be totally worth the few hundred if they did a nice job of it. Love the Dubbs shirt!
I believe the NH843 is Husq 543xp
And yes the shirt is awesome!
Green cap means Diesel !
Spread the word😊
Jonsered really needs to come back
Probably a terrible time to try considering all the clone saws and their growth. So while I would love it, $ wise, probably not so great.. but who knows.
I always thought that it would be great if they would clone the more sought after top end variants. Potential cash grab for them there honestly. Also wish they would clone a Dolmar 7900!
😮Very interesting saws for Skandinavia people who use this 50cc😅 Bigger trees we use Ponsse, John Deere, Komatsu, and so on.
Best 50cc is my 10-10 mac. Convince me different. Good show Brody
Challenge accepted...
- The McCulloch 10-10 never had a 50cc version. The smallest I know of was 54cc. Therefore no matter what your opinion may be... you are wrong. Never was, nor will it ever be considered the best 50cc saw. Because it isn't.
Don't forget the 2149 there little ass rippers also
I got one ported and piped and it was a ripper stock ! Now it's insane for a 50 cc !
Compliment from me today ☺️
I miss the new red chainsaws (Jonsered & Dolmar)!
2153 is the best.😊
Was. Along time ago. Now days it’s the 550xp.
We're lucky to have the OPTIONS to argue about wether the 026, 501p, 346xp, 545/550, 261, etc. etc. is superior.
Honestly... I like them all. I just like 50cc saws for a "general purpose" saw. Slower for bigger wood, heavy for light work, but they can do SO much.
Absolutely! We have some great options to choose from.
put a wiseco piston in there for them to clone
You need to do a comparison of that with the Jon Cutter 5800. It’s the best of the Zenoah 50cc+ clones. Bet it would beat it. But it’s 54cc not 58.
JonCutter 5800 is $30 right now on their site
Actually Boedy, I completely agree with you. You ARE the smartest guy on the planet...right after me ; - ]
Does society make your head hurt too?
Amen, Brother...: - ]
@@gmidoro 😏
Kevin Lavanway’s 346’s beat up on 60cc saws 😉
The patent probably hasn't expired on the 460 Rancher clutch cover. 😢
Try an Echo cs-5500 or Echo cs-520 and see what you think.
What about the 026?
They have a 260 clone
Another chainsaw needs to be the 2nd best!
Three piston sizes 44mm , 44.3 mm , 45mm I prefer the 45mm bore
I guess you never seen the Radley!!
the best 50cc saw ever is the 026
026's are great little saw's I have two of them, but their anti-vibe suck compared to the Jonsered/Husqvarna saw's and yes I own and run all three brand's in these 50cc class.
Agreed 👍
I do... i like orange
👍🆙BigGuy
JonCutter 5800 $30 on FT site right now!
Computers belong on a desk, not in the woods.
Yet damn near every logger/tree service guy here in my part of Wisconsin owns a 562. Except a few Stihl guys with their computer saw
As far as I know, airlines won’t let you fly with an engine. Maybe it’s just Alaskan. Also anyone but me ever wonder why China can sell a non EPA saw but the European manufacturers can’t? Hmm…. Probably something suspicious going on there. Anyway, if they want to clone something, they need to clone the old Silvey Razur sharp II chisel chain grinder. Need a quality motor and good diamond dressing wheels but price a new simington and it shouldn’t be difficult at all to make a good quality grinder at a price point that will sell 👍🏼👍🏼
Boedy advance the timing if you can 😉
Perhaps what you meant to say is “what was the best 50cc saw that is out of patent and can be cloned”. Because I can’t believe anyone would argue that the 346/2153 is BETTER than the 550xp. Great saws and were the best. Just not anymore. Not that it’s worth selling and upgrading but if you need to replace the 550 is the way to go.
Many people would still argue the 346xp is better than the 550xp. Sure, the 550xp is fast, but it has real problems and are not know to last very long. The 346xp is old school and can last for thousands of hours of working time. You can't say that about the 550xp. Most of them burn up before 200 hours of service. Sure, some can last longer... but none will last as long as the 346xp if given appropriate care. That is why it is still #1 to many.
@@novicelumberjack I have had great luck with them except for one. That one has no usable parts on it. Crushed and destroyed. I actually didn’t know why it was kept. I said the only thing good on it was the flippy caps. I thought this to be true until the 562 came out of the bucket at the end of a cut. Landed straight on the handle. Got a used tank same day from local husky dealer. Lady at counter actually took it off the saw. Took back to work the next day and it didn’t run. Turned out I didn’t notice the auto tune device on carb had broke. Well low a behold that 550 with only flippy caps good on it had that piece and it’s the same # as the 562. A couple bolts here and there left. Everything else junk! 562 is probably the most popular saw around here in the woods. My 346 was stolen but I also have a modded 55 that runs good but just not as nimble as the 550 or 346. I have not experienced the longevity issues but on a normal day I have the 562 in my hands.
@collinjhuls That's awesome. Very good to hear positive stories like that. What climate are you in? Maybe they don't last as long in hot climates. I know they run extremely hot for me here in Atlanta. You should have some scanned to see how much run time you are getting from them. For me... I could use one saw for the rest of my life and may never hit 200 hours of run time. So it isn't a big deal. But for a pro, they may put that much time on them in a year. And that is nowhere near enough time for an expensive pro saw to last.
Great video as usual ironhorse is still badmouthing you he’s got to let it go !
Warhalk actually makes a 44.3
I definitely saw that on ebay after I made the video, but the ad wasn't real specific. 44.3mm was in the ad that I saw claiming it would work, but it was a piston and cylinder combo. So... might be 44.3, might not. At least, that's how I saw it. Do you know if they are legit 44.3?
Come on Boedy do not start with me now, the P5000 you ran clearly was out of tune… I’ve ran multiple 346 and one 2152. Nowhere close to the 5000+
Isnt the 5000+ just a close port husky 55 cylinder?
@@georgesjunk No, I don´t mean to be uptight but like you know there is a lot more to a chainsaw than just the piston and cylinder. Everything is differnt except for inlet, piston, crank and cylinder. Btw not sure if the 55 ever was delivered as a closed port 44mm like 5000+. The 55 is a heavy, clumsy saw compared to the 5000+
@lassila3 yeah you're right. It's not just. Thanks for correction.....
But it is interesting! Especially with regard to the horizontal hustle
@@lassila3I like my ported(closed port) 55 quite well but have never heard of the 5000+?
@@collinjhuls 5000+ is Partner. Partner was bought by Electrolux and does not exist anymore.
2250 is better lol
No your not the smartest , and hait to burst your bubble but there people that been using the 455 and 460 clutch covers way before you got into the chainsaw world bud , all my 350 series saws have them and all my jonsered saws have them I even have the paint color code and a local powder coat company that does them for me , so have a nice day 😁
The smart thing wasn't running a Rancher clutch cover, it was sending the saw with the Rancher clutch cover to get cloned. Understand? If I do this, I am not gonna send them a stock Jonsered 2152. I will try to address any problems that people like you have figured out to be great bolt-on fixes. Rancher clutch cover, already opened up and modified exhaust, and possibly even 357xp intake and carb. So that when they clone it, they will be cloning an already lightly modified saw. That's the ticket.
Man LW! Make some videos about your excellence, we want 2 see the show!!
Need to run more saws and talk less.
Watch a different channel
I guess your middle initial is S
Thanks 4 commenting though, every little bit helps!
@@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws must be talking about yourself cuz I know it ain't me
@@adriansneed7220 good come back, probably a 12y/o in China
@@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws 👍🏻😅
034 is the best 50cc ever made, runs circles around he 346 and its cousins
Johnson red is trash. I only use a stihl 500i
it's ok you'll learn in time not 2 be so narrow minded
That 500i isn’t gonna last 30 years like the Jonsered.
Never heard of a Johnson red 😂
@@bethanyhaskiell9116 😏
Poor fella is still learning