His Best Game EVER was FAKE?
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2023
- This is the Story of a Perfect Game that Never Happened.
Let's dive into the ghost game of Alekhine - Tenner, 1907.
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Who do you think is right? O. Tenner and his friend Arnold Denker or Alexander Alekhine …
Alekhine for me
Alekhin, of course. When you are number one in the world, everyone swears at you. From second place down.
Idk who's correct, but yea I would love to play a game like this!
Check your facts on this one. The game A A said that took place in 1907 is on record as having taken place in 1911 in Cologne. I have another game played by the two at the same time and place which was drawn. O T said he played against AA in a drawn game.
1. e4 e5 2. f4 Bc5 3. Nf3 d6 4. Bc4 Nc6 5. d3 Nf6 6. Nc3 Bg4 7. Na4 exf4 8.
Nxc5 dxc5 9. Bxf4 Nh5 10. Be3 Qe7* 11. Bb5 f5 12. Bxc6+ bxc6 13. Qd2 fxe4
14. Ng5 O-O 15. Nxe4 Rae8 16. Bf2 Qd6 17. Qe3 Qg6 18. O-O Bf3 19. Bg3 Nxg3
20. hxg3 Bxe4 21. Rxf8+ Kxf8 22. Qxc5+ Kg8 23. dxe4 Qxe4 1/2-1/2
Since the two games are alike, one could be a derivation or alternative of the other.... Move 10 differs ... Qe7 instead of 10 ... Ne5 etc
Tenner was starting his chess career. He peaked young in 1914 and after moving to the US around 1922. His EDO (ELO) slowly declined until his death in 1948. I am looking for chess events in Cologne which took place in 1911 and so far have only found one in the mid summer lasting a couple of weeks in which neither AA or OT is mentioned. Still researching. This may have been played in a 3 game simul in which A A won all three, or 2.5/3.0 depending on how this game actually turned out.
Or it was just another dude with the same name as Tenner.
I thought that Alekhine's best game is his triple queen sacrifice in Efim Bogoljubov vs Alexander Alekhine 1922 Hastings tournament. Pretty nice game.
Great point! I meant in the sense of accuracy with him scoring 100% in this one ❤️ Bogoljubow - Alekhine, 1922 is objectively better!
You are among the few streamers who read chess books. This is how I progressed in chess: by studying short commented games.Great video,thx.
Denker and Tenner just mad they could never be as good as Alekhine. Putting my trust in Alekhine
Hot take! I like it :)
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Love the very interesting video on Alekhine Zach, always nice to watch your videos after a long day at college. Keep up the great work Brev and hopefully your day off streaming is going well so far! ❤️
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@@thechessnerd no worries at all Zach, you deserve it so much, you work really hard on your streams and videos and it really shows with how they come out. Trust me, the views will definitely come soon, keep on working and keep doing what you're doing because you should be so proud of yourself alright ❤️. Much love Zach!
i played a 32 move game at 94.4% accuracy and finished off the game on a firced queen sac mate 🔥, says that i played like a 1950🥖
Sick mate🎉
9 months wow
Bro, you're amazing. You just radiate mad high levels of positive energy and that's what makes your content absolutely god-like
It could've been a mistake of misremembering who he played the game played against. Especially if the name was similar. If it was an amateur player, it makes even more sense.
Great video keep up ❤❤
It’s possible he might have played the game against an unknown amateur thinking his name was Tenner. Classic mix up. Especially since Tenner didn’t even know him.
TOO MUCH EMOTIONAL CALM DAWN!!
Fascinating stuff!
“In the gulag” Damn
I love this game even if it was fake. When I saw the possibility of queen sacrifice with knight capture, I suspected that might work... although if I had played it, I am sure I would never have found checkmate and would simply have looked stupid losing my queen!
Bro so great he knew how other dude would play in his mind even though they never actually played😮
I thought he sacrificed his king for a sec
Don't think a goat would fake a game
Cause there's no need to do that
He did a little trolling
hey zach just saying you had a great stream yesterday!
thanks for the love Miles! I’ll note that you liked the theme of the stream and / or music for next time!
Mayve there is another Player (amateur level) called exactly equal and played that game but still brillancy
This a bit like stafford gambit
Alekhine made a lot of enemies, Denker and Fine in particular, in part because he had published a few Anti-Jewish articles for the Nazis. Fine got a lot of revenge when he published a book on the Psychoanalysis of Chess Champions. Fine's Chapter on Alekhine is the stuff that provokes violence.
Let's put it this way, the word "Pervert" is a compliment compared to the things Fine wrote about Alekhine.
@@claytonbenignus4688dang, I thought Alekhine was a good guy lol
@@jordantwellingduring WW2 he was held by the Germans and was forced to write antisemitic things and stuff
Could it be another Tenner?
5:59 its checkmate not just check
Alekhine wasn't perfect after all? Not surprising... As you might guess, I'm inclined to believe the detractors. Lying about winning a game seems more likely than lying about losing (we've all suffered painful losses without finding the need to deny it at some point, later) Your enthusiasm is infectious!
What’s up chess nerd can I get a reply love the vids played 10 games at school and lost 5 so not bad
50%!
I grew up with Alekhine's best games books and he might be my favourite player. Nevertheless, it is widely believed that his famous "five queens" game (v Grigoriev, Moscow 1915), also mentioned in vol. 1, is also fabricated.
Yup
So he lied when writing his own autobiography? Huh
Tenner and Arnold kinda hated Alekhine so maybe it's normal that they are trying to ruin him.
There's also other people named Tenner in the world
Multiple sources have said Alekhine has made other fake games. But that's wikipedia
bruh i thought it was Hitler in the thumbnail
How in the actual hell did I see that brilliant move..
@@BoomBox263so you predicted the outcome of being a full piece up in 6 moves, checkmate variation #1 in 5 moves, checkmate variation #2 in 8 moves, and checkmate variation 3 in #14 moves all at once? Or was it easy to sacrifice your queen because you can’t think 2 moves ahead?
it's because when you know there's a brilliant move you automatically look for big sacrifices
The game is fake but still it is very beautiful line. It would be more beautiful if it is real.
And this black king is getting assaulted by 4 pieces 🤨
what
Alekhine overrated
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It’s pronounced “alyokhin” not “alekhin”
No. He’s pronouncing the name correctly. See the very first reference in the English Wikipedia, or Russian Wikipedia for that matter.
No, no. Alekhines Rh6!!! Is the only move that wins in a French Defense that Alekhine more than likely choreographed. There are FOUR queens on the board and the best move wasn't even with a queen but a quiet rook move! Alekhines LOVE for the game was SECOND TO NONE.