New Shaft for Bull Gear, Long Workpiece Challenges
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- This is the follow-up video for the bull gear repair. Here we are machining the new 1-15/16" shaft requested. One end will need to be drilled in the center and tapped for a grease fitting. There's also two 1/2" keyways that are milled into the shaft. This was a long shaft at over 12' which provides a bit more challenge to handle for both lathe and mill work.
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"No marine mammals were harmed by the making of this oil". I like it...
Good one!
THIS, THIS AWESOME lmao, I'd buy one 100%
@@the_Wingading I want one too 👍🐳
Oh, man ... it's the old Abom79 channel: machining! Only one product promotion, kind of - the Noga mister. Way to go.
Kool Mist makes a similar product to the Noga and I was using it long before I heard of Noga about 25 years ago. Noga products are generally well designed and last. Their very early mag bases used plastic knobs that failed. All of my more recent Noga bases resolved that design flaw. I don't mind a Noga plug. I have recommended their products ever since I bought my first product. A new machinist showed up with a Noga mag base. It was so handy that I had to have one. My son was in trade school at the time. He took that mag base to class and the college immediately made Noga mag bases standard student issue. The school was unaware of Noga before seeing my mag base. I have added so many Noga bases to be my tool inventory that my other premium quality bases stay in the tool chest drawer. I do take pride in the Starrett base and drag it out mostly to be smug.
@@paulhunt598 I worked with Noga starting in the mid 80's. In those days you dealt with the Israeli's and the factory directly. Now there are 8 -10 tool company's that rep them in North America. Their world wide presence is huge these days as well! They started with quality products and continue to this day. Good company!!
I tend to have favorite brands and only get tempted to jump (brand) ship when I discover a truly better product. I had my heart set on a Mitutoyo base of similar function to Noga in the early 80's, but it was too pricey for my then poor man's salary. I discovered the Noga brand just about the time that my tool budget pocket was getting a bit deeper. They have some very fine innovations in indicator holders and deburring tools. I own quite an array of their indicator holders, mag bases and common deburring tools, but none of their fancy deburring products. Common Noga products are pretty inexpensive if you purchase them from the trade school dropouts. Noga seems to be their standard student issue. I generally pick up these products in same as new condition. I buy tools for my 23 sons, sons-in-law, and grandsons. The Noga products make nice filler gifts and they have adequate pricey product options if I need a special gift.
I haven't seen one of those Mitutoyo mag bases that I once treasured in many years. Noga may have improved the concept enough that Mitutoyo dropped the product.
My first Noga mag base has unpainted aluminum arms. Do they still make a similar version? It is still possibly my favorite, and still gets the most use. It sports shop made knobs since it was made in their knob plastic failure era.
Joe looks like a badass surrounded by all that material and machinery, would love to see more of the place
I’m not a machinist but something about the way you bring your talent to the world brings me genuine joy. Thanks!
I like how there are people in the comments talking about unsubbing because you said "Way Oil" while in they interpret as saying "Whale Oil".
What!?
It's unfortunate. I just started my channel. And I can't imagine. Community is the best. And to just appreciate the way other people do things is best!!!. No need for the negative. If it works for them. Great!. Not a competition!
I don't you can even get whale oil outside of Japan these days...
@@NSResponder only if you find some very some which has been sitting in a can on a shelf for a few decades.
@@trevelynbrown4444 well, I distinctly heard whale not way.
The steady rest on the mill table is genius. Great way of problem solving.
I agree! Very clever ideal. Wonderfully innovative thinking.
Great camera angle showing your deep hole drilling technique. 1 crank, release tailstock ,withdraw to clear the chips, slide it forward and repeat. Great visual!
Thats exactly what I did when I bored the spindle on my drill press for a draw bar.
Yep, keep some “way” oil on the ways and it slides easily. If folks could only see how May long drilling jobs I’ve done that way.
I made a couple of comments to someone about Adam’s work. One is that I am able to use some of the principles of his work on wood turnings. I also made the comment that you can watch Adam work and learn, you can listen to his comments and learn, you can watch and listen and learn a lot. Thanks Adam for your intentional teaching approach on your videos.
I check my RUclips every day just to see if there’s a new video. You not only make great content but you have a relaxing tone. It’s almost therapeutic.
Yep!, I just woke up, now I will go back and watch from where I fell asleep, LOL.🙂
yeah it's always a nice chilled out experience watching Adam. He's calm and patient, and takes the time to do things right and explain everything he does.
When turning a 21 foot shaft half a century ago we used a steady rest, follower rest, passed it through the head stock, and reduced the whipping of the ends by drilling holes through both of the wood walls of the shop, then greased them. We could get about 5 feet at a time, then slide the shaft again, and resume. Admittedly, that’s not always an option.
BIG BRAIN MOMENT!!! I've never thought about mounting the steady rest to the mill!!! My mill is left of the lathe and in line for that arrangement. I'm ecstatic! I gotta go to the shop and check heights.
Man I am sure glad I put all my machines under hoist. Best shop build decision I ever made!!
I love these kinds of channels, what your doing isn't just a job, it's an art form really
Hay Adom! I work for the biggest laundry processing company in the world at one of their big plants in Vegas. Let me know if you want some footage of those bull gears running. I have a few of those old machines and a bunch of new style too.
Adam - you are such a professional. Your knowledge is so deep and yet you simplify it for us novices. Thank you.
Nice to see Abom in his functional shop doing actual work again :)
STILL the best machining content on RUclips...
Definitely in my top five also
Imperial are bane of this world but still i love to watch you work. It soothes my day.
I like how you got chipper about this kind of job. Then you said your father showed you how to do it. It all snapped into focus. Awesome dude. That hit me.
I think his elders would be proud.
Awesome video, thanks for taking the time. It seems a man can’t win on the internet whatever he does, I appreciate the effort made to provide educational entertainment.
You don’t have to apologize for the mics being off. You are able to give more in depth commentary when you do the voiceover. Consider doing voiceovers occasionally, whenever you are doing something more technical. It will also allow you to concentrate on the work during critical moments.
I am constantly amazed at your depth of knowledge across a boundless array of different tooling and heavy machine skills that you have hard earnt through no less than decades of learning, practicing, and failing. Then succeeding and knowing why. This has culminated in you being pretty much THE guru for machining almost anything. And you can explain yourself whilst being productive and accurate time and time again. Well...ABOM for president! There is no limit to what you can fix... be well fella!
Great use of your shaft support steady rest attachment. Your right Adam, take care of your back!
As usual, great video. Thanks for sharing.
You'll absolutely be seeing me again. Its always a pleasure watching you work
I think it’s great, yup there’s always those keyboard commandos that will tell you a “better way”.
Good friend of mine just sold one of those Marvel saws. Looks to be nearly identical to the unit in the video, but with different styling as it was made in the 50s iirc. What a great piece of machinery.. bulletproof reliable.
Very nice idea with the steady rest on the mill.
The more I watch your channel, the more I feel I missed my calling. Old lady now, but free to hobby it up! Thanks for teaching and sharing.
No whales were hurt for the oil used on this job.
Well handled that long axle. Using the gantry was brilliant, McGyver style. Having access to one shop having two lathes in line with each other long items are no problems.
Congrats to both ur workshops. At daytime u doing ur work in the new shop and in the evening u can enjoy ur hobby.
Love the machining videos the most Adam. Thanks.
I like these videos because they help me as an amateur home workshop machinist building steam engines for a hobby. Learn loads from watching, thanks so much for putting them on.
Great wrap-up on this job. Always love your content Adam. Keep em coming!
I was so bored today I'm so glad I made it to Saturday LOL thank you for the entertainment and knowledge Adam!!! as always good job man!!!
Well done!
Nice ideas for long work pieces. Funny how people always do things the way they were taught, I was always taught to look up in the machinery's handbook, they have a chart with key width and shaft size that tells you how much to add to half the key so you can just touch off on the top of the shaft.
your the man Adam you don't have to explain or defend yourself we know you know what to do an get it done right always love the content keep it coming we love to watch anything you decide to film
Adam,
This is the kind of content that I really find helpful and that I enjoy. I come here mostly to learn and you are a favorite instructor. I learned multiple tricks from today's video and relearned some that I forgot.
1. Your plunge depth trick for the keyway that you learned from your dad
2. Keyway depth rule of thumb
3. Using T slot on mill table to align shaft and aid in clamping
4. Using gantry to support shaft long end
5. Using fixture on mill table to mount steady rest for lathe support
6. Tricks to clear 2 flute plunge milling key slot
7. Rule of thumb for key .001 interference fit and clearance for key depth
Your instruction style is among the best on RUclips. You seem to understand intuitively what the novice needs to see and hear.
You do mighty fine work my friend, as far as lifting heavy things, that comes with age buddy, I am 57 and I find myself having trouble lifting things I used to pick up and toss. I should have listened to them old folks when I was younger
Great job I just love the way to Adam explains everything in detail you don’t miss your time. Very good work
Way oil ? Cool! I learned something new watching channels like yours Adam. 👍, any days a good day I can learn something new 😉
thanks for sharing. And yeah, be careful when it comes to handling heavy weights without the right equipment. I mean I love watching big and heavy work pieces being worked on, but you have take care of yourself.
It’s not what you lift, it’s how you lift it. Lifting with your head and not your back
we made some what we called "portable steady rests" we made with 2 ball bearings adj for height to accomplish this and dabbed a little anti seize to minimize any chance of marks being put on shaft. it worked so well we could run higher speeds than steady rest
This is why I always re-finish machine the bore after the press.
I remember the crew of the Hydraulic press channel had a long piece of shaft that needed machining. The solution was to drill a hole in the wall and put a stand outside the shop to support the end of the shaft.
Believe it or not, this is a common hack! You hear of it being done every now and then. Keith Fenner had a "famous" hole in the wall of his old shop for just such situations.
Keith Fenner had a similar solution for his old shop.
Keith Fenner had a great set of lips and mouth on his wall just for that purpose very intriguing
I have a hole like that in BOTH walls, inspired by Keith Fenner. My shop is only 4 metres wide....
I am always impressed with your professionalism I wonder if you realize how lucky you are to of had a father to teach you this trade I wish you all the luck in the future as a retired auto mechanic I understand how Meticulous your work is. I love your show
Hi Adam. I have a gift for you if you want it. It’s a Starrett 733 6-7” digital mic.
I’m a retired machinist and don’t have a use for it anymore in my new business as a gunsmith.
It’s in the case and I can’t ever remember using it.
I figured you could use it in your new shop.
Let me know how I can get it to you.
Good tip for cutting a keyway Adam! Thanks! 👍
Thanks for another informative video, lot of old school knowledge here,much appreciated🤗😎🤗😎
When I sharpen 2 flute end mills for cutting keyways I never sharpened the sides .
I cut the end back to remove the dull area and reground the bottom .
That way you kept the original diameter.
Awesome video. Like the machinery and processing process.
Very nice video! I like how you use a precise round bar to check the key dimensions milled on the shaft! AB-SHOP
I would love to see the piece back on the machine. Nice work.
I remember turning long shafts like that at an American Cone Valve company I worked for. I would bore and turn a plastic bushing that fit in the back of the lathe spindle and was a slip fit over the workpiece. The far outboard end we just had resting in the Vee of a jack stand. It was crude but worked.
Very clever skill technique
I remember the video where you set up the gantry crane for your home shop. Great to see how it all works together now. Thanks for sharing!
Fun watching.
Loving the steady-rest mount. Way to keep it simple. Probably quicker with this job than some people who weren't filming at the same time.
People underestimate the power of a good steady rest. There's this youtuber OlivierGomis, a woodturner by trade, I think he is French. Smart young man, built himself a steady rest for his wood lathe, almost four feet in diameter, mainly out of plywood, that lets him stabilize large vases while turning them.
Hello Adam and Abby. Have a good weekend.
Adam, Great series, Thanks.
Drill chuck mounted in a boring bar holder so you can use the saddle to do the drilling... Stephen posted a video about doing it. I've despised having to drill with the tail stock.
Great way to bind up and break a drill in a hole too. Using the hand wheel allows you to “feel” the drill and when it’s time to clear the chips.
@@Abom79 Wow, bad blood with Stephen Gotteswinter or an insult to the way dad did it? Not the reaction I would have expected from you. I am sorry if it was offensive. I've not had problems drilling this way since well before Stephen put out a video on it. Again I'm sorry if it came off like I was talking down to you, or hyping up another RUclipsr on your channel. It was posted with no ill intent. Maybe you are feeling a little too much pressure between RUclips , the new shop, and the medical stuff? I really didn't expect that response from you.
@@DrKnow65 No bad blood and that wasn't taken as an insult. I was simply stating why I like using the tailstock for drilling. It's the way I prefer to do it.
A pleasure watching some proper engineering as an old fart still doing engineering today not on the scale you can handle but over 70 and still going.
It was really educational for me to see the new camera angles. It awesome seeing your hands operate the machine after seeing hours of footage of the work piece. I've come to expect certain things to occur at the work piece, anticipating "standard practice" if you will. But it was cool to see the "man behind the curtain". Great content. As always thanks for sharing!
Yippee, it’s Saturday night ! My favorite video !
Filming so good I never noticed lack of sound.
Yes like Jody at welding tips and tricks he does a great voice over on his videos also
Some time ago, I did some work for a company that used a bunch of agitators, a belt drive and thrust rated bearing on one end and a straight rubber bushing and propeller on the bottom, but they wanted to reduce cost/stock where possible. We wound up creating a top and bottom short machined round bar with a stub designed to slip into a heavy wall pipe that could be cut to length as required. They were also big fans of how it didn't weigh nearly as much as a solid hunk of round bar and the fact that they were much easier to produce and comparatively low cost if a two foot round bar is scrapped.
Ive found that wrapping a piece of emery cloth around shaft just one turn with the grit facing out and then placing the shaft in the steady rest holds the oil in better and also doesnt mark the shaft as bad.
Thanks for sharing
Great job as always Adam.
Looks good. Always learn something watching you do what you do best.
Perfect and complete transmission rod..
LOOKS NICE AND TIDY ADAM
Nice video Adam including the déjà vu with the bushing
Always remember to mind your back
With the davit crane in the new shop, jobs like this would be much easier. Thanks for sharing.
I love that 6 jaw chuck
Could make some cup oilers for your steady rest
Always nice to see craftsmen at work!
Dieing breed now.
I had to turn the ends on a 5m 50mm shaft to fit bearings years ago and used a forklift and a pallet to support it end
i saw your CRC infomercials very nice! only had one comment on the two i saw but you got a good career as a spokesperson starting!!
Tuned in and thought I was watching Keith Fenner, and low and behold, it was Adam Booth.!!! nice video, I enjoyed ti
Dream workshop man 👍😎
Great vlog Adam👍
You put an extra couple hours into that grease channel where the bull gear sits, hope everyone appreciates how much you care about your machining results, how the parts work when they leave your shop! Anyway; nice little heavy Duty LED battery powered lamp for your machines!
Awesome idea use what you got for sure
Thank you, great video as always. My very best to you and yours.
Would be great to get context of the application. Hope you can get some mate.
Thanks for doing the voice over. Also last time I was wondering about how you knew to make that bushing 15/16ths exactly, and that that dimension would work for the shaft. Now I see.
I enjoy watching your videos
I'll bet Keith Fenner could use his flame, and cooling spray technique to straighten that shaft.
Funny the incongruity between this channel always being all about precision but for a 12 foot plus long shaft that is perhaps running out 5mm at the position of the bearing at the far end, 'it is what it is'.
ADAM, TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO...SEE YOU NEXT TIME...
Excellent.
Awesome project fun to watch
Last few times I have bought cold roll 1018 round it's been at least 3 thousands out of round in places. Can be a problem.
Great work , you are a master like always respect.
Thank you Adam
I have never been able to use on size endmill to make key slot. I use under size and move side to side to fit.
Do you use a 2-flute for slotting?
No a four flute that may make a difference but I never go full depth I go in steps. I was trained to do it. I know Abom79 is very good at what he dose.
Well done Adam
It cracks me up when people are surprised by normal machine practises.
What you're seeing here is inventive machining with manual equipment.
I ran a six jaw double chuck machine that dwarfed what you see here.
I fully enjoyed it. I've ran parts that exceeded 60 inches in diameter and 40 feet long.