Guys. Supercharged evolved Godzilla is the strongest. Mv goji absorbed the sun's radiation, sun's solar winds, solar flares and tiamat's biggest energy which are all above 1_5m degree Celsius which is still Hotter than heisei's burning goji. Not only that, it was stated that evolved mv goji can now absorb and hold 20 times more radiation than before. If the highest radiation that mv goji absorbed before was 500,000 degree Celsius ( thermonuclear goji situation ) and if we do a little calculation : 500,000 × 20 = 10,000,000 is the radiation that mv goji can hold which is both hotter than both heisei burning goji and thermonuclear goji.
this is wrong, it isnt 20x stronger, he just have 20x the capacity. it doesnt change its power, it just enhances his energy storage giving him the ability to fight longer. if it made it 20x stronger. it wouldve killed kong without touching him, it wouldve completely evaporated skar king when it grazed him and wouldve gone right through shimo.
@@Its_Indo think abt it. It was stated on the screen that mv goji can now hold 20 times more radiation than before. And 500k degree Celsius was the temperature of the amount of radiation that he wasn't able to keep in his body. And now it can hold and absorb 20 times more radiation than before also. I didn't say it was stronger but in fact, it is. Not only did he almost reach the temperature of the sun, but he could also become even stronger than that. And mv Goji's beam didn't hit straight to the Scarking. It was under 1 sec. It's like u are touching an iron for under 1 sec. It still burns but it doesn't burn you that much. And it was stated that shimo can freeze atoms so it doesn't matter how hot it is. It could freeze any Atoms anywhere at any time. And shimo's much more durable right now then
@@amirram8308 an iron? i dont give a fuck who you are, anything touching something at 500,000 degrees C would completely evaporate, i do not care. Shimo cannot even completely freeze the earth during ice age but you think something like that could survive an atomic breath you are saying is 10,000,000 degrees? you could be 1,000 km away from anything 500,000 degrees and over and you would still fucking die.
@@localricefarmer It does. He can now hold 20 times more radiation than before Ok? And if the highest radiation that mv goji absorbed but wasn't even able to keep was around 500,000 degree Celsius, he can absorb and restore 20 times more radiation than that which we could say that evolved goji is now close to the temperature of the sun due to absorbing Sun's radiation, solar flares, solar winds and tiamat's biggest energy which are all above 1 or 2 or even 5 million degree Celsius. When his normal atomic breath was stated to be stronger than the force of black holes, supernovas etc that are even hotter than 1 billion degree Celsius and if his new atomic breath is even stronger than that, he is definitely hotter and more powerful than that of burning heisei goji.
decent/good ranking, nothing much i'd complain about. I'd personally word some stuff better, and give more complete arguments for each one of the rankings but you did really good.
@@Armored_Lizard Thanks for the feedback, but thing is, the argument for Spiral ray is just the energy readings statement, which there are none for Burning. So it just becomes a matter of maths
Bro 🍳. Although i kinda disagree with the method used to get burning above spiral. Aside from that you cooked brought great energy, and editing improved too. Ur hitting 1k very soon👌
@@kingchurros9021 Thanks for the support King, and being fair, the argumets for Burning tend to be "nuh uh, Spiral ain't above Burning, so Burning above Spiral Ray"
You make a great point on the energy threshold, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of it do you think it could be corroborated further through the variety of hax he got from mothra? (more advanced energy absorption and stabilization)
1. Burning but can't sustain it for long. 2. Evolved due to sustainability. 3. Supercharged 2019. Let's him overwhelm Ghidorah before GH chomps onto Boston's power grid. 4. Reactor 2024 due to him being supercharged but not going to blow up. 5. Base 2019. Able to hold his own against Ghidorah using strategy and brute strength when necessary. 6. Base 2021 due to gaining at least enough energy to search for "Ghidorah" MechaGodzilla signal and play with Kong until stamina taxed by letting Kong affect him because of arrogance. 7. Base 2014 due to waking up after a few years of being dormant and not feeding on radiation in quite a while.
Kewl but considering the fact that I've been seeing you argue about the energy readings, lemme just say this. Burning/Thermo's readings of energy would likely be just massive chunks of his energy. Mothra made it that way for him to not overload to death. Meanwhile, EvoGoji is molecularly denser and more durable, literally absorbed so much radiation that his dorsal plates melted, can contain 20x more energy, etc. Thermonuclear Godzilla is better to fight glass cannons that regenerate like Hydras. EvoGoji is better for prolonged fights against tanky opponents that don't regen as fast. Now this makes me wonder what would happen if EvoGoji used up as much of an energy ratio as Thermo. Like, what if EvoGoji absorbed Mothra's essence, would he just delete everything around him with a pulse that takes like ⅓ of his energy?
Ngl, people putting Spiral ray and nuke amp at a relative state just because Greg Keyes did a mistake by saying thermo was going to blow up is goofy, no official source compares nuke amp with spiral ray and instead almost everything that spiral ray is compared to is burning (not saying spiral ray is stronger or relative). Hell, what nuke amp is actually compared to (tho indirectly ig) is base evolved considering that he is stronger than a double supercharge using what we have, is literally called an overcharge which would upscale a supercharge, and the fact that its implied that he can store more energy than ever before.
Alright, first of all for the good parts the list is near perfect, but I have a few issues I would like to "quickly" address (incoming yap), you see, first of all the... Questionable let's say, argument about him evolving to get a greater capacity, the evolution thing clearly refers to his different state from ancient times (chubby) to his appearance in 1952 (slim) to his 2014 form, to his 2019 base and than to evolved, all having different reasons for changing that I won't go over to not make this too long (also my phone is lagging and it's painful af to type something and wait 5 seconds before it appears), he cannot evolve without some outside factor. Now for nuke amp, you were not wrong, but it is rather complicated, nuke amp was stated to be continually rising in power in the novel and also shown on the energy readings on screen, they left roughly halfway through, so spiral would b*tch slap mid Boston goji who is roughly on par with weakened Ghidorah. Late would be roughly relative, bellow but still relative and early would even lose to power plant goji, speaking of whom he loses to the majority of nuke amp stages, the boiling water is absolute bs since we don't get an up close of the water around nuke amp who is also in a storm which makes it harder to tell, now for another bs arg, planes never approached mid to late goji anywhere as close as they did power plant amp goji, they were only relatively close when he was in his very early stages, and even then they did not approach him as much as they did with power plant goji, making the whole plane argument a joke, also it was the earliest stage of nuke amp, as for the "power plant>nuke" arg radiation wise, the nuke literally opened a hollow earth portal, which has immense energy (compared to a black hole in the novels), and even if it didn't, an average nuke has more energy than an average power plant, it is the strongest nuke that has objectively less energy than the strongest power plant, so it should by logic have more energy, France goji would still beat the early stages but he would probably lose to mid Boston goji, as monarch seemed to have the peak of goji's power on high esteem, as they were amazed by it and remarked it when spiral used his energy, and they clearly had readings of France goji to, they compare him with nuke amp in the novel, altho for a slightly irrelevant matter, but them not thinking of this as a new peak should be enough to get him Bellow mid Boston goji, also the hurting argument mostly comes from him hurting himself from gradually surpassing his energy capacity more and more until he blew up, as for why this wouldn't happen to France goji, 1:he got less energy and 2:he doesn't hold all of it in him like Boston does since he doesn't need all the energy instantly to fight, thus can afford to let it leak more. Now for the thermo part, you are correct but your reasoning is not the greatest, first of all to give a better understanding if evo's stages, base Evo (who is confirmed to be a generally different state) is x2 base Godzilla in every category, sc evo or as you call it spiral is 2-4x base Evo thus at a low ball he's x4 base, at a high ball he's x8 and as a middle ground it should be x6 base goji, not x20 since 1:the official numbers from the guide books give different results and 2:he doesn't have any signs of being out of control and hurting, basic supercharged signs, now for Ghidorah, the x100 things everyone uses is completely false as it said "the power of 100 storms" and 100 storms does not mean 100 Ghidorahs because Ghidorah is far above a storm, also it was stated that he got back at full charge, and also that he was weakened when he woke up, so that version seems infinitely more accurate, so both evo and thermo are way weaker than you suggested, the list is still a w tho.
@@petroshalkos3453 I'm not reading all of this, you're probably waffling about the nuke's explosive power which doesn't matter and saying Powerplant got less energy or whatever. We *know* the powerplant amp was greater, Supercharged didn’t force planes to stay away.
@@Devonlui I explained all of those arguments already, if you have too short of an attention span to read that (took me 4 minutes to write with lag) then don't try to say I'm wrong to begin with, these are some sad arguments, about as sad as the internal explosion on mecha's neck, so eather read it or leave it.
@@petroshalkos3453 I am LITERALLY noidea 😭 Darkrat is no longer gonna contend I'll make results when I'm available because holy I am not reading all that rn
Powerplant Energised Godzilla is not supercharged, according to the movie. There's that and the fact that Greg Keyes compared both Supercharged Godzilla 2019 and SC Evolved Godzilla, and he said SC Evolved isn't really that much stronger but more in control. In fact SC G19 negs both base Evolved and Energised Godzilla.
@@Devonlui "If Godzilla takes down Tiamat, he'll supercharge" Yeah Godzilla was not supercharged yet. Greg Keyes was refering to a Godzilla who was about to explode and die due to reaching critical mass, something Burning Godzilla doesn't have since his energy was stabilised by Mothra's life force.
@@FastModz95 And the Powerplant is also stated by Legendary to be Supercharged, in the GxK IG account, it's just that names don't matter, the Powerplant is a bigger amp regardless. And he never said about to die, he was talking about the final "pulse" which was Burning exploding without dying.
@@Devonlui The movie contradicts this by saying Godzilla only went supercharged after killing Tiamat and absorbing her lair. "He’s not about to explode this time" clear indication that he was refering to the unstable Supercharged Godzilla state and not Burning Godzilla.
@@FastModz951. Doesn't necessarily contradict powerplant being a supercharge, him supercharging after killing tiamat means that he would supercharge even further than before, which is consistent with a scan referring to base evolved as an overcharge. 2. Thats a simple mistake made by Greg, doesn't change the fact that he was talking about burning and not nuke amp, why would Greg suddenly talk about nuke amp when the question was about burning? No other info (or pretty much no info at all) compares nuke amp with supercharged evolved and instead, supercharged evolved being compared with burning solidifies his superiority over nuke amp even more, regardless if he's stronger or not than burning.
Everything in the video was perfect except the fact that Spiral is either equal to Thermo or just straight up above bc in the Novel it literally says Godzilla reached his forelimbs wide, and for a moment Hampton feared an explosion, like the one the Titan had released in Boston.(talking about Thermo) Instead, radiation jetted from his open mouth, brighter, stronger than ever before. This simply proves my point that Spiral > Thermo
@@Devonlui yeah they don’t have reading on burning but let’s be honest this is straight up a definitive statement by Narrator himself and even if they don’t have Energy readings on Thermo it doesn’t really matter because obliviously they are never gonna be able to get it If there are no readings on thermo, then no matter what we do we never gonna have it, so instead why should we ignore the direct statement of spiral being stronger than thermo?
@@ThorOdinson-zm8hf You do realize Boston also refers to nuke amp in which the Argo did have readings on as nuke amp goji continues to grow in power and later overwhelm ghidorah.
The only thing that i kind of disagree with is that nuke amp godzilla was constantly growing, and power plant godzilla wasn't, just finite boosts. He wasn't dying from the boost, he kept growing in power and that was what was going to kill him. That is why i belive that the nuke amp is better. Plus in godzilla dominion the nuke opened a hollow earth portal portal, and regardless of what you said, there isn't any shown evidence of the power plant being more potent than real life ones. You also kind of forgot that the book only stated that godzilla was near the level that nuke ampee godzilla BEFORE ghidorah took out all of their ships with sensors. Nuke amped godzilla took the boost and his continued growth was what was killing him, not the boost in the beginning. That's my take on it. Why they have different looks? That is likely just a directors opinion on it. Taking into account that again, power plant godzilla was not constantly increasing in power but nuke amped was and was dying from that, that's the only part i don't agree
@@Fins-Up-74 The nuke amp's "growth" was just him getting closer to exploding, and the peak of his growth was still below what the powerplant gave Godzilla upon first absorption, and he grew even more after that, to where he was similar to Burning and so radiactive and hot that planes couldn’t get close at all, which Supercharged had massivelly lesser versions of. And the explosive power of a nuke, is not its radioactive content, which the former would be what the MV nukes amplification would be. And I CAN assert the powerplant being more potent because MV technology is so far beyond what we can achieve and its a logical neccesity for their energy output to be massively higher than ours. Which even if that powerplant was like a normal one, it'd still had more radiation than the MV nuke anyways, such is the gap between RL powerplants and nukes They had sensors before and after the Ghidorah supercharge. That is just shown. What was going to kill Godzilla was the thermonuclear explosion his body was at risk of undergoing. The idea of him gaining strength across the fight is iffy, which in and of itself wouldn't suffice to argue superiority to Powerplant given the guy also grows and is just shown superior by his effect on the envoirment relative to Supercharged, AND Godzilla could only grow further based on what radiation that nuke gave him, which is lesser than what a powerplant has, let alone an MV powerplant Asserting Supercharged grew further is irrelevant, Powerplant is superior to his peak growth anyways
@Devonlui i don't base the fact that he grew in strength as being Iffy since the kotm novel talks about that happening. Plus they just say that his energy is going to keep increasing until it explodes. For clarity, I don't think that there is a massive difference between the two, however, again, from kotm novel, he kept getting stronger and even if the power plant was better than our real life ones, we still don't have a quantifiable amount, while we do have nukes blatantly opening holes in the hollow earth.
@Devonlui further reasoning for my thinking is that the creator of the evolved form, that you yourself said is stronger than both power plant and nuke amped, compared it ONLY to when godzilla was going to explode, not burning, not power plant, only when he was going to explode. What form of godzilla was going to explode? Nuke amped. This just says that based evolved godzilla is a godzilla that can control the amount of energy that nuke amped godzilla had. Those are simply my points, your burning vs spiral is correct, this is my only point of contention
Hey devonlui who you got and at what diff 1. Base evolved vs 1st amp ghidorah (the powergrid) 2. Spiral evolved vs 2nd amp ghidorah (after absorbing nuke amp godzilla) 3. Base g24 vs base fp ghidorah
@@Devonluino sorry I change it after seeing the video Thermo > Spiral > Blue Thermo > Evo > Nuke amp I put blue Thermo above Evo bc of Kong mostly he was able to get 20 which I agree did nothing but that’s not happening with Blue Thermo
@@kingchurros9021see I don’t if this makes sense but whatever kong did to Evo is not happening with Blue Thermo if you know you know and obviously you know 🙂 Love your vids too ❤️❤️❤️
@@Devonlui that is not even a canon form in the monsterverse lol i searched up and it is a real world company which makes collectables of existing forms Edit: I didn’t Watch the video,so If i say something wrong,let me know(though you would probably say the wrong thing considering your caps)
Nuh uh G19 solos it was hesitantly stated and more radiation≠more stronger and nuke amp has more radiation than evolved are only X2 of energized nuke amp heavily outscales in narrative And again more radiation ≠ more stronger to a certain level if Godzilla has massively more radiation then ya does supercharged evo has massively more no no he’s doesn’t it’s simplified its hesitantly stated to have radiation above nuke amp in supercharged evo base evo in a clear definition cannot beat shimo at all no chance and how he got overpowered by kong from being caught off guard for one second also about base G19 it was maybe stated that G24 is relative but it’s kinda stupid to put G24 above G19 because G24 is said to be relative not stronger or like he gets mid-high diffed in narrative so nuke amp has better qualities of amplifier and evo SC is nuke amp with better control simple as that within feats+statments though godizlla 19 slams absolutely no difference Also the nuke was 242 terratons and also Godzillas was in his home made of radiation it’s not just the radiation for the nuke and the home made of radiation absorb Base G19>base G24 and it just shows Godzilla held the radiation better by logic sub atomic should be wayyyy stronger than nearly every godizlla with the same capacity which is not true at all as adolscent beat shimo ghidhora the monke army and more being wayyy more powerful than anything close to sub atomics glow we also know that when godizlla went to sleep he charged radiation and if the nuke and the home of radiation combined it’s obvious godizlla was overcharged because he just took in all the energy from his home and the nuke at once he was heavily amplifed and Able to run even though he wasn’t adapted to this kind of structure he also jumped through Antarctica unless he used a wormhole and he climbed out of the hole and jumped out of the water to grab ghidhora who is in the air and he created massive shockwaves by simply crashing into ghidhora something no other kaiju has done ever and ghidhora n shimo have been stated countless times to be relative amplifed ghidhora smacks 99% of Godzillas
@@Devonluialso nuke amp held himself against a 100 times base or 44.6 times base ghidhorah and got low mid diffed so the thousand time amplifier is just a round about it might be higher like 4,000 and nuke amp is literally an uncontrolled radiation from his home and the 242 terraton nuke 3,214,374,603.174603 times stronger than the atomic breath G21 because it says it was 315 TJ so G19 absolutely slams in calcs feats and narrative lol energized literally would struggle against kong for a while too as evo is X2 than energized and Kong could overpower Godzilla in a confused Godzilla and ghidhora has been stated near shimo weather this was amped or not even though it wasn’t really the amped version as it says shimo is pretty much equal or worse than ghidhora In destruction meaning base is relative but not stronger than shimo in narrative terms gets high diffed or high-extreme from shimo and base evo got mid diffed by shimo and there’s way you said a nuke has less radiation then a power plant 💀💀💀💀💀💀 Basically in narrative Implacations Base G24 < base G19 Base G19 100% charged base evo mid or mid high diff Shimo > ghidhora base high diff Ghidhora < nuke amp mid high Nuke amp > shimo high-extreme Sprial ray>nuke amp high diff Simple these are narrative Ghidhorah decimates all in amped for only narrative
@@lackypub8624 Burning Godzilla's final stomp and explosion vapoize most of Godzilla's body: 10x Same Ghidorah abdorbs energy from Godzilla for multiple minutes: 100x physically at least Same Ghidorah taking energy from a simple grid gains the ability to charge a 100x his base beam
If orange is the opposite of blue and since thermo/burning is orange and PowerPlant godzilla is blue & weaker, and the opposite colour of pink or magenta is green, that means burning evolved godzilla would be green. Just wanna point something out (and he'll be much stronger than thermo; probably).
Guys. Supercharged evolved Godzilla is the strongest. Mv goji absorbed the sun's radiation, sun's solar winds, solar flares and tiamat's biggest energy which are all above 1_5m degree Celsius which is still Hotter than heisei's burning goji.
Not only that, it was stated that evolved mv goji can now absorb and hold 20 times more radiation than before. If the highest radiation that mv goji absorbed before was 500,000 degree Celsius ( thermonuclear goji situation ) and if we do a little calculation :
500,000 × 20 = 10,000,000 is the radiation that mv goji can hold which is both hotter than both heisei burning goji and thermonuclear goji.
this is wrong, it isnt 20x stronger, he just have 20x the capacity. it doesnt change its power, it just enhances his energy storage giving him the ability to fight longer. if it made it 20x stronger. it wouldve killed kong without touching him, it wouldve completely evaporated skar king when it grazed him and wouldve gone right through shimo.
@@Its_Indo think abt it. It was stated on the screen that mv goji can now hold 20 times more radiation than before. And 500k degree Celsius was the temperature of the amount of radiation that he wasn't able to keep in his body. And now it can hold and absorb 20 times more radiation than before also. I didn't say it was stronger but in fact, it is. Not only did he almost reach the temperature of the sun, but he could also become even stronger than that. And mv Goji's beam didn't hit straight to the Scarking. It was under 1 sec. It's like u are touching an iron for under 1 sec. It still burns but it doesn't burn you that much. And it was stated that shimo can freeze atoms so it doesn't matter how hot it is. It could freeze any Atoms anywhere at any time.
And shimo's much more durable right now then
@@amirram8308 an iron? i dont give a fuck who you are, anything touching something at 500,000 degrees C would completely evaporate, i do not care. Shimo cannot even completely freeze the earth during ice age but you think something like that could survive an atomic breath you are saying is 10,000,000 degrees? you could be 1,000 km away from anything 500,000 degrees and over and you would still fucking die.
@@amirram8308 Evolved goji is 2x base in terms of combat capabilities but the 20x energy statement doesn’t equate to strength or Ap
@@localricefarmer It does. He can now hold 20 times more radiation than before Ok? And if the highest radiation that mv goji absorbed but wasn't even able to keep was around 500,000 degree Celsius, he can absorb and restore 20 times more radiation than that which we could say that evolved goji is now close to the temperature of the sun due to absorbing Sun's radiation, solar flares, solar winds and tiamat's biggest energy which are all above 1 or 2 or even 5 million degree Celsius. When his normal atomic breath was stated to be stronger than the force of black holes, supernovas etc that are even hotter than 1 billion degree Celsius and if his new atomic breath is even stronger than that, he is definitely hotter and more powerful than that of burning heisei goji.
Burning IS the strongest. No question.
Godzilla in hell is the strongest comic burning godziila from 1995 is the strongest live action godziila
He's talking about mv@@Williamtheepicgamer
decent/good ranking, nothing much i'd complain about. I'd personally word some stuff better, and give more complete arguments for each one of the rankings but you did really good.
Some stuff is just self evident, I mainly focused on the how they're above the forms people actually contend
Hey devon.
My list for the strongest titans in the monsterverse is.
1.burning Godzilla
2.2nd amp Ghidorah
3.1st amp Ghidorah
4.supercharged evolved Godzilla
5.shimo
6.base evolved Godzilla
7.nuke amp Godzilla
8.boston Ghidorah
9.tiamat radiation amp g24
10.powerplant amp g24
11.artic weakned Ghidorah
12.recharged g24 base
13.base g19
14.gvk Godzilla starting of the movie.
15.lom Godzilla
16.aftershock Godzilla
17.godzilla 2014 fp
18.muto prime.
19.methushula
20.gxk mothra
21.kotm mothra
22.kotm Rodan
23.glove kong
24.supercharged axe kong
25.gxk evolved tiamat
26.muto prime (dagon one)
27.dagon.
28.mechagodzilla
29.weakend gvk Godzilla
30.dominion Godzilla (after some rest)
31.dominion Tiamat
32.dominion Godzilla (at his worst)
33.female muto
34.male muto
35.ion dragon
36.gxk kong with base axe.
37.gxk kong base
38.kingdom kong
39.camazotz
40.amhuluk
What's your list btw?
@@sefalibegum3557 Diabolically terrible list
Bruh how is tiamat stronger than powerplant? Bro legit one shoted her
Pretty factual video,tho you could have worded the burning>spiral arg better tbh
It was literally "nuh uh thermo is above"
@@Armored_Lizard Thanks for the feedback, but thing is, the argument for Spiral ray is just the energy readings statement, which there are none for Burning. So it just becomes a matter of maths
You should do a Strongest Kong form video next tbh
Monsterverse or just cross verse wise?
@@localricefarmer mv
@@THEMIGHTYKONG05 that’s obvious it’s gxk kong
Bro 🍳. Although i kinda disagree with the method used to get burning above spiral. Aside from that you cooked brought great energy, and editing improved too. Ur hitting 1k very soon👌
@@kingchurros9021 Thanks for the support King, and being fair, the argumets for Burning tend to be "nuh uh, Spiral ain't above Burning, so Burning above Spiral Ray"
Hey king you nailed Shimo vs Ghidorah 🔥
@Devonlui That's exactly what they are 😂😂😂. But I think there can be arguments for burning without being facetious.
@flashprime7570 thank you 🙌🙌
@@kingchurros9021 I would suppose so, but I think the multiplier argument is enough, I should have explained it more in depth though
You make a great point on the energy threshold, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of it
do you think it could be corroborated further through the variety of hax he got from mothra? (more advanced energy absorption and stabilization)
That's not stated. It's better to use the evolution argument
1. Burning but can't sustain it for long.
2. Evolved due to sustainability.
3. Supercharged 2019. Let's him overwhelm Ghidorah before GH chomps onto Boston's power grid.
4. Reactor 2024 due to him being supercharged but not going to blow up.
5. Base 2019. Able to hold his own against Ghidorah using strategy and brute strength when necessary.
6. Base 2021 due to gaining at least enough energy to search for "Ghidorah" MechaGodzilla signal and play with Kong until stamina taxed by letting Kong affect him because of arrogance.
7. Base 2014 due to waking up after a few years of being dormant and not feeding on radiation in quite a while.
Hey, Devonlui. Do You Think That Godzilla Will Gain The Red Atomic Breath In The Next Monsterverse Film, Like In The 90’s And In Final Wars?
I would hope so
@@Devonlui Hell Yeah!
Kewl but considering the fact that I've been seeing you argue about the energy readings, lemme just say this. Burning/Thermo's readings of energy would likely be just massive chunks of his energy. Mothra made it that way for him to not overload to death. Meanwhile, EvoGoji is molecularly denser and more durable, literally absorbed so much radiation that his dorsal plates melted, can contain 20x more energy, etc. Thermonuclear Godzilla is better to fight glass cannons that regenerate like Hydras. EvoGoji is better for prolonged fights against tanky opponents that don't regen as fast. Now this makes me wonder what would happen if EvoGoji used up as much of an energy ratio as Thermo. Like, what if EvoGoji absorbed Mothra's essence, would he just delete everything around him with a pulse that takes like ⅓ of his energy?
I still think supercharged evolved > burning
You are still wrong
@@petroshalkos3453 no
@@petroshalkos3453 no
@@petroshalkos3453nope
Naw he right
Ngl, people putting Spiral ray and nuke amp at a relative state just because Greg Keyes did a mistake by saying thermo was going to blow up is goofy, no official source compares nuke amp with spiral ray and instead almost everything that spiral ray is compared to is burning (not saying spiral ray is stronger or relative). Hell, what nuke amp is actually compared to (tho indirectly ig) is base evolved considering that he is stronger than a double supercharge using what we have, is literally called an overcharge which would upscale a supercharge, and the fact that its implied that he can store more energy than ever before.
Alright, first of all for the good parts the list is near perfect, but I have a few issues I would like to "quickly" address (incoming yap), you see, first of all the... Questionable let's say, argument about him evolving to get a greater capacity, the evolution thing clearly refers to his different state from ancient times (chubby) to his appearance in 1952 (slim) to his 2014 form, to his 2019 base and than to evolved, all having different reasons for changing that I won't go over to not make this too long (also my phone is lagging and it's painful af to type something and wait 5 seconds before it appears), he cannot evolve without some outside factor. Now for nuke amp, you were not wrong, but it is rather complicated, nuke amp was stated to be continually rising in power in the novel and also shown on the energy readings on screen, they left roughly halfway through, so spiral would b*tch slap mid Boston goji who is roughly on par with weakened Ghidorah. Late would be roughly relative, bellow but still relative and early would even lose to power plant goji, speaking of whom he loses to the majority of nuke amp stages, the boiling water is absolute bs since we don't get an up close of the water around nuke amp who is also in a storm which makes it harder to tell, now for another bs arg, planes never approached mid to late goji anywhere as close as they did power plant amp goji, they were only relatively close when he was in his very early stages, and even then they did not approach him as much as they did with power plant goji, making the whole plane argument a joke, also it was the earliest stage of nuke amp, as for the "power plant>nuke" arg radiation wise, the nuke literally opened a hollow earth portal, which has immense energy (compared to a black hole in the novels), and even if it didn't, an average nuke has more energy than an average power plant, it is the strongest nuke that has objectively less energy than the strongest power plant, so it should by logic have more energy, France goji would still beat the early stages but he would probably lose to mid Boston goji, as monarch seemed to have the peak of goji's power on high esteem, as they were amazed by it and remarked it when spiral used his energy, and they clearly had readings of France goji to, they compare him with nuke amp in the novel, altho for a slightly irrelevant matter, but them not thinking of this as a new peak should be enough to get him Bellow mid Boston goji, also the hurting argument mostly comes from him hurting himself from gradually surpassing his energy capacity more and more until he blew up, as for why this wouldn't happen to France goji, 1:he got less energy and 2:he doesn't hold all of it in him like Boston does since he doesn't need all the energy instantly to fight, thus can afford to let it leak more. Now for the thermo part, you are correct but your reasoning is not the greatest, first of all to give a better understanding if evo's stages, base Evo (who is confirmed to be a generally different state) is x2 base Godzilla in every category, sc evo or as you call it spiral is 2-4x base Evo thus at a low ball he's x4 base, at a high ball he's x8 and as a middle ground it should be x6 base goji, not x20 since 1:the official numbers from the guide books give different results and 2:he doesn't have any signs of being out of control and hurting, basic supercharged signs, now for Ghidorah, the x100 things everyone uses is completely false as it said "the power of 100 storms" and 100 storms does not mean 100 Ghidorahs because Ghidorah is far above a storm, also it was stated that he got back at full charge, and also that he was weakened when he woke up, so that version seems infinitely more accurate, so both evo and thermo are way weaker than you suggested, the list is still a w tho.
@@petroshalkos3453 I'm not reading all of this, you're probably waffling about the nuke's explosive power which doesn't matter and saying Powerplant got less energy or whatever.
We *know* the powerplant amp was greater, Supercharged didn’t force planes to stay away.
@@Devonlui I explained all of those arguments already, if you have too short of an attention span to read that (took me 4 minutes to write with lag) then don't try to say I'm wrong to begin with, these are some sad arguments, about as sad as the internal explosion on mecha's neck, so eather read it or leave it.
@@petroshalkos3453 my buddy my man if you so please we could discuss all that with a judge
@@crosforussolos sure, you got discord? I am currently in the process of an ongoing jw debate, but once I'm done you can debate me if you want to.
@@petroshalkos3453 I am LITERALLY noidea 😭
Darkrat is no longer gonna contend I'll make results when I'm available because holy I am not reading all that rn
Powerplant Energised Godzilla is not supercharged, according to the movie.
There's that and the fact that Greg Keyes compared both Supercharged Godzilla 2019 and SC Evolved Godzilla, and he said SC Evolved isn't really that much stronger but more in control.
In fact SC G19 negs both base Evolved and Energised Godzilla.
@@FastModz95
>Names aren't relevant
>He was talking about Burning Godzilla
>Contradicts everything
@@Devonlui "If Godzilla takes down Tiamat, he'll supercharge"
Yeah Godzilla was not supercharged yet.
Greg Keyes was refering to a Godzilla who was about to explode and die due to reaching critical mass, something Burning Godzilla doesn't have since his energy was stabilised by Mothra's life force.
@@FastModz95 And the Powerplant is also stated by Legendary to be Supercharged, in the GxK IG account, it's just that names don't matter, the Powerplant is a bigger amp regardless.
And he never said about to die, he was talking about the final "pulse" which was Burning exploding without dying.
@@Devonlui The movie contradicts this by saying Godzilla only went supercharged after killing Tiamat and absorbing her lair.
"He’s not about to explode this time" clear indication that he was refering to the unstable Supercharged Godzilla state and not Burning Godzilla.
@@FastModz951. Doesn't necessarily contradict powerplant being a supercharge, him supercharging after killing tiamat means that he would supercharge even further than before, which is consistent with a scan referring to base evolved as an overcharge.
2. Thats a simple mistake made by Greg, doesn't change the fact that he was talking about burning and not nuke amp, why would Greg suddenly talk about nuke amp when the question was about burning? No other info (or pretty much no info at all) compares nuke amp with supercharged evolved and instead, supercharged evolved being compared with burning solidifies his superiority over nuke amp even more, regardless if he's stronger or not than burning.
Thermo Godzilla>>>Evolved Form>>>Energized Godzilla>>>Rage Mode(GVK)>>>Base form
Everything in the video was perfect except the fact that Spiral is either equal to Thermo or just straight up above bc in the Novel it literally says
Godzilla reached his forelimbs wide, and for a moment Hampton feared an explosion, like the one the Titan had released in Boston.(talking about Thermo)
Instead, radiation jetted from his open mouth, brighter, stronger than ever before.
This simply proves my point that Spiral > Thermo
@@ThorOdinson-zm8hf This is all under the assumption Monarch has access to knowledge on Burning, which beyond simple visuals, they do not
@@Devonlui yeah they don’t have reading on burning but let’s be honest this is straight up a definitive statement by Narrator himself and even if they don’t have Energy readings on Thermo it doesn’t really matter because obliviously they are never gonna be able to get it
If there are no readings on thermo, then no matter what we do we never gonna have it, so instead why should we ignore the direct statement of spiral being stronger than thermo?
@@ThorOdinson-zm8hf You do realize Boston also refers to nuke amp in which the Argo did have readings on as nuke amp goji continues to grow in power and later overwhelm ghidorah.
The only thing that i kind of disagree with is that nuke amp godzilla was constantly growing, and power plant godzilla wasn't, just finite boosts. He wasn't dying from the boost, he kept growing in power and that was what was going to kill him. That is why i belive that the nuke amp is better.
Plus in godzilla dominion the nuke opened a hollow earth portal portal, and regardless of what you said, there isn't any shown evidence of the power plant being more potent than real life ones.
You also kind of forgot that the book only stated that godzilla was near the level that nuke ampee godzilla BEFORE ghidorah took out all of their ships with sensors.
Nuke amped godzilla took the boost and his continued growth was what was killing him, not the boost in the beginning.
That's my take on it. Why they have different looks? That is likely just a directors opinion on it. Taking into account that again, power plant godzilla was not constantly increasing in power but nuke amped was and was dying from that, that's the only part i don't agree
@@Fins-Up-74 The nuke amp's "growth" was just him getting closer to exploding, and the peak of his growth was still below what the powerplant gave Godzilla upon first absorption, and he grew even more after that, to where he was similar to Burning and so radiactive and hot that planes couldn’t get close at all, which Supercharged had massivelly lesser versions of.
And the explosive power of a nuke, is not its radioactive content, which the former would be what the MV nukes amplification would be. And I CAN assert the powerplant being more potent because MV technology is so far beyond what we can achieve and its a logical neccesity for their energy output to be massively higher than ours. Which even if that powerplant was like a normal one, it'd still had more radiation than the MV nuke anyways, such is the gap between RL powerplants and nukes
They had sensors before and after the Ghidorah supercharge. That is just shown.
What was going to kill Godzilla was the thermonuclear explosion his body was at risk of undergoing. The idea of him gaining strength across the fight is iffy, which in and of itself wouldn't suffice to argue superiority to Powerplant given the guy also grows and is just shown superior by his effect on the envoirment relative to Supercharged, AND Godzilla could only grow further based on what radiation that nuke gave him, which is lesser than what a powerplant has, let alone an MV powerplant
Asserting Supercharged grew further is irrelevant, Powerplant is superior to his peak growth anyways
@Devonlui i don't base the fact that he grew in strength as being Iffy since the kotm novel talks about that happening. Plus they just say that his energy is going to keep increasing until it explodes.
For clarity, I don't think that there is a massive difference between the two, however, again, from kotm novel, he kept getting stronger and even if the power plant was better than our real life ones, we still don't have a quantifiable amount, while we do have nukes blatantly opening holes in the hollow earth.
@Devonlui further reasoning for my thinking is that the creator of the evolved form, that you yourself said is stronger than both power plant and nuke amped, compared it ONLY to when godzilla was going to explode, not burning, not power plant, only when he was going to explode.
What form of godzilla was going to explode? Nuke amped. This just says that based evolved godzilla is a godzilla that can control the amount of energy that nuke amped godzilla had.
Those are simply my points, your burning vs spiral is correct, this is my only point of contention
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@@The-recolored-clone3354 Goated
Can you make shimo vs ghidorah amped and base form beacause alot of people are downplaying shimo and saying ghidorah wins
Ghidorah and Shimo are relative stated by a biased Shimo designer
using energy capacity to say that a godzilla is stronger is WILD, nuke amped is top 2 lol
@@Brok0011 Whatever amp you have powerplant at, Pink Godzilla has and more
@@Devonlui you're basing it off of energy which only means more stamina, nuke amped obv slams
0# supercharged Evolved godzilla
1# Evolved Godzilla
2# burning or thermo godzilla
3# french goji
4# godzilla 2021
5# godzilla 2019 kotm
Lizards in Paris
The strongest form is his zesty form(supercharged evolved goji)
It’s not zesty
Yes it is he has an hour glass
So yeah if Nuke amp is the last
I’d say Blue Thermo > Volcano amp Ghidorah
Evo > Amp Ghidorah
@@Shimo-IceAgebringer As it stands, you can say that
Hey devonlui who you got and at what diff
1. Base evolved vs 1st amp ghidorah (the powergrid)
2. Spiral evolved vs 2nd amp ghidorah (after absorbing nuke amp godzilla)
3. Base g24 vs base fp ghidorah
@@Godzillammm Evolved low-maybe mid difficulty
2nd amp Ghidorah low different
Ghidorah low-mid difficulty
@@Devonlui2nd amp ghidorah really that strong ?
Fanboys about to be mad when they hear nuke amped is below energized
True
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Thermonuclear goji > evolved goji
Supercharged evolved goji > thermonuclear goji
@@travipatties2521 No
I think the strongest Godzilla form is evolved Godzilla and Nuclear Amp Godzilla
There’s statements for supercharged to be stronger than thermo so…
Which one ?
My opinion would be
Thermo > Spiral > Blue Thermo > Evo > Nuke amp
By the way this video was really good👍🏻
That opinion is interesting
@@Devonluino sorry I change it after seeing the video
Thermo > Spiral > Blue Thermo > Evo > Nuke amp
I put blue Thermo above Evo bc of Kong mostly he was able to get 20 which I agree did nothing but that’s not happening with Blue Thermo
Why is blue above evo??
@@kingchurros9021see I don’t if this makes sense but whatever kong did to Evo is not happening with Blue Thermo if you know you know and obviously you know 🙂
Love your vids too ❤️❤️❤️
@@flashprime7570blue thermo was letting of emps they wouldnt damage kong
For me thermonuclear is the strongest form of Godzilla
F I N A L L Y
Evolved is confirmed as the Strongest
@@Tyruntgames So above the spiral ray, which is stronger than he is, cool cool
@@Devonlui that is not even a canon form in the monsterverse lol i searched up and it is a real world company which makes collectables of existing forms
Edit: I didn’t Watch the video,so If i say something wrong,let me know(though you would probably say the wrong thing considering your caps)
@@Tyruntgames Watch the fucking video before you speak
@@Devonlui I am watching it rn
@@Devonlui i watched a part of it and…you said that thermo is stronger?Bro What?
Evolved below thermo
Booooooo
Cry
@@localricefarmer nuh uh
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Nuh uh G19 solos it was hesitantly stated and more radiation≠more stronger and nuke amp has more radiation than evolved are only X2 of energized nuke amp heavily outscales in narrative
And again more radiation ≠ more stronger to a certain level if Godzilla has massively more radiation then ya does supercharged evo has massively more no no he’s doesn’t it’s simplified its hesitantly stated to have radiation above nuke amp in supercharged evo base evo in a clear definition cannot beat shimo at all no chance and how he got overpowered by kong from being caught off guard for one second also about base G19 it was maybe stated that G24 is relative but it’s kinda stupid to put G24 above G19 because G24 is said to be relative not stronger or like he gets mid-high diffed in narrative so nuke amp has better qualities of amplifier and evo SC is nuke amp with better control simple as that within feats+statments though godizlla 19 slams absolutely no difference
Also the nuke was 242 terratons and also Godzillas was in his home made of radiation it’s not just the radiation for the nuke and the home made of radiation absorb
Base G19>base G24 and it just shows Godzilla held the radiation better by logic sub atomic should be wayyyy stronger than nearly every godizlla with the same capacity which is not true at all as adolscent beat shimo ghidhora the monke army and more being wayyy more powerful than anything close to sub atomics glow we also know that when godizlla went to sleep he charged radiation and if the nuke and the home of radiation combined it’s obvious godizlla was overcharged because he just took in all the energy from his home and the nuke at once he was heavily amplifed and Able to run even though he wasn’t adapted to this kind of structure he also jumped through Antarctica unless he used a wormhole and he climbed out of the hole and jumped out of the water to grab ghidhora who is in the air and he created massive shockwaves by simply crashing into ghidhora something no other kaiju has done ever and ghidhora n shimo have been stated countless times to be relative amplifed ghidhora smacks 99% of Godzillas
@@GojiraevosolosshimoKOTMsolosMV Keep flapping your lips
@@Devonluinarrative implications say that base G19 wins against G24 as it says G24 base is relative not stronger lol
@@Devonluialso nuke amp held himself against a 100 times base or 44.6 times base ghidhorah and got low mid diffed so the thousand time amplifier is just a round about it might be higher like 4,000 and nuke amp is literally an uncontrolled radiation from his home and the 242 terraton nuke 3,214,374,603.174603 times stronger than the atomic breath G21 because it says it was 315 TJ so G19 absolutely slams in calcs feats and narrative lol energized literally would struggle against kong for a while too as evo is X2 than energized and Kong could overpower Godzilla in a confused Godzilla and ghidhora has been stated near shimo weather this was amped or not even though it wasn’t really the amped version as it says shimo is pretty much equal or worse than ghidhora In destruction meaning base is relative but not stronger than shimo in narrative terms gets high diffed or high-extreme from shimo and base evo got mid diffed by shimo and there’s way you said a nuke has less radiation then a power plant 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Basically in narrative Implacations
Base G24 < base G19
Base G19 100% charged base evo mid or mid high diff
Shimo > ghidhora base high diff
Ghidhora < nuke amp mid high
Nuke amp > shimo high-extreme
Sprial ray>nuke amp high diff
Simple these are narrative
Ghidhorah decimates all in amped for only narrative
Yea going stay with goji chronic. Because That 1000x is so bull shit that it's not even funny.
@@lackypub8624
Burning Godzilla's final stomp and explosion vapoize most of Godzilla's body: 10x
Same Ghidorah abdorbs energy from Godzilla for multiple minutes: 100x physically at least
Same Ghidorah taking energy from a simple grid gains the ability to charge a 100x his base beam
W video maybe
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If orange is the opposite of blue and since thermo/burning is orange and PowerPlant godzilla is blue & weaker, and the opposite colour of pink or magenta is green, that means burning evolved godzilla would be green. Just wanna point something out (and he'll be much stronger than thermo; probably).
@@iforgorlol69420 counter point, this is all headcanon
@@Devonlui just pure speculation. I should've probably pointed it out in the comment I made