Framing a Second Floor and Understanding Building Plans
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2023
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I think the most amazing thing to see is how positive the comments are. Every other social media post I see from people building stuff, trades, etc. are just filled with people complaining they're doing this or that wrong and a lot of "well actually..." type of comments. It's nice to see people not doing that here and if they do, it's very respectful.
One of the most excellent videos you have uploaded. Viewers, don't be multi-tasking while watching 'cause in a moment you will miss something important/interesting. Drone shots are right on. These men are professionals at work.
Your timing is perfect. I remodeled my house from stem to stern using videos from this channel. I've watched the entire Spec House series. I'm watching it again as I put together and form my own plans/blueprints to build an addition from scratch myself that will include a second floor, so this video is great. Thanks so much for your contribution to these topics. Your channel is indispensable and if I am ever in Oregon and you're still around, I'd like to buy you a drink.
Nice work! Every contractor watching your videos appreciates that sometimes you just have to put the utilities where it's not ideal. Very good videos. It's always nice to see how other contractors handle things. Keep it up!
I do love framing. I think if I hadn't gotten into design, I might have gone that route. I did physically build a few houses early in my career, so I could be confident in my design work. Any good designer/draftsman should get his or her hands dirty on a job site. If you can't build it, you shouldn't be designing it. Just my humble opinion. House is looking great!
I think that should go both ways. If you can't do (at least basic conceptual) design, you shouldn't be building.
Plans can seem overwhelming for sure. I’m a superintendent for a general contractor and we do commercial building. Schools, theaters, hospitals and everything in between. My focus on the job is safety, scheduling and budgets. We rely heavily on our subs to understand their division in both, spec books and plans. I have no business telling a plumber or electrician and many others how to get their work done. I’m merely there to ask their questions to both the proper engineers and architect when there’s a discrepancy. I’m knowledgeable enough to layout a building to ensure as we build up trusses and joists will land in their spot. It’s a major team effort and when it’s done there’s a sense of pride for everyone involved. It’s an absolute joy for me!
It depends…..commercial work is a totally different beast, an ordr of magnitude more detailed in the specs and plans than residential builds, esp when it comes to concrete, and framing hardware. Ie STRUCTURE. How many residential jobs specify min 3 days before forms are removed ? No water added at site (and if you aren’t supervising that, who is ??) or the length of exposure of vert rebar above footers ? How many residential bjobs havee you seen anyone verify -ie measurre- a respectable sampling of all rebar overlaps ? Slump. Test etc ?? And commercial budgets usually allow for fully licensed master plumbers, electricians etc to be in the job (NB no such certification for concrete installers- how does that make and sense ?!) how detail GCs, let alone the clients, check to see if these licenses are possessed or even active? How many electrical and plumbing firms get the residential bid under an openers license and then send a “plumbing technician” unsupervised to do much of the plumbing work short of brazing copper ? How many subs actually READ the plans, structural notes specification etc ? Try inserting into a residential contract that a master plumber or electrician will be on site supervising all the mechanical work ? LOL
@@johnwhite2576 Cool. Thanks for the response. I just wrote what I do for a living and how much I like it. But I’m glad you set me straight.
I will add as a retired building inspector, I look at these same things to know if the correct hanger was used on the correct laminated beam. Truss layouts give a lot of information ass well. Great video.
When it says something like 1.55E (like your lsl) or 1.9e, 2.0e, 2.1e (for lvl or microlams) that isn’t a model number. It defines the timber’s “modulus of elasticity” which is basically just a fancy way of saying how bendy the material can get before it tears itself apart. The E is very similar to the e that appears when you deal with big numbers on a cheap calculator. 1.55e is the same as 1.55 x 10^6 or 1,550,000. I don’t know what sort of unit the modulus of elasticity is measured in, but I do know that it is one of the determining factors when sizing a beam. I sell building materials reading plans just like yours, except the builders never spend enough on their architect, so most of the engineering is fudged by me, the salesman. :/
Structural grade like ss #1 #2 its not totally comparable but easy for knuckle draggers to explain to other knuckle draggers
Modulus of Elasticity is measured in ksi or Mega/Giga-Pascals.
What a great framing crew!
Lots of things I like about this channel -- one in particular is the pacing of the videos and the good use of voice-over. Keep up the good work. (Heh, heh!)
Thank you for all the awesome content and great videos!!!
As a retired appraiser, I've seen a lot of plans and, believe me, not all are created equal. What you are showing are plans AND specifications. It is incredible how many people sign a contract with a builder with only a floor plan - no elevations, foundation, plumbing or wiring plans, etc. In over 20 years doing appraisals, I only saw a handful of plans and specs that were acceptable. Builders and their buyers tended to get mad when I started asking questions about specifics, but I was able to educate a few along the way. If you're going to build, watch Nate; he's taking the right steps from site selection and planning, to final finish. Yes, it costs more to do it right, but there is VALUE in doing it right. If you go for lots of extras, realize they don't return dollar for dollar in value. Cost and value are two different animals - don't blame the appraiser if the value is less than the cost! Yeah, you can find plenty of appraisal whores who sell a number and their signature to keep everyone happy, but in the end you'll pay the price. Also, pay the architect a little extra to make interim inspections to assure that the plans and specs are being followed. It's cheap insurance if you later discover something was not done properly.
Great perspective! And if a builder doesn’t follow the specs in the plan, there’s some legal recourse. If there are no specs, it’s probably gonna be a mess.
lol you people are scam artists
Thank you for this video. I watch many on home construction and I learned more USEFUL information in this one!
So interesting to watch. Especially the time lapse. It was also nice to see so much progress in the one video. If I was not already subscribed to this channel, watching this video would have hooked me for sure.
it is amazing how quick it goes. thanks for sharing
I’m just a nerdy electrical engineer, and while civil engineers (like my father) did these kinds of load designs. Their work is beyond critical and are beyond critically important. All this banter points to the pecking order of engineering teams. Incredibly important, all, and all very important.
The place looks amazing!
love the POV your providing !
What an interesting video. It's unbelievable how much goes into framing and covering a structure. The US is blessed with massive forests and renewal plans that allow such wide-spread use of wood products. The same is not true for most of the rest of the world.
The unusually eclectic mix of musical instruments in the background is quite pleasant, also. Who would have thought organ played through a rotating speaker would blend in with resonator guitar? Thank you to the EC team for another fine upload. Subbed years ago.
that 1.55E refers to the modulus of elasticity, which is the key material strength measurement that resists the beam bending
A good companion to any up and coming builder that wants to read the plans efficiently and fast, would be a dictionary that has all the visual terms and definitions inside it. When i first started architecture, our gov had them made, these days, they're privately funded affairs, dunno about NA, but i'm certain there's an equivalent either online or in paper format, and it helps a lot. I cannot overstate how much i leaned on it and still do, whenever i'm teaching others or putting my clients in the awareness spot so we can hold an equal conversation.
Framers did a damn fine job, well organized and fluid. I love seeing openings router out in lieu of ripped open with a recip saw. Much nicer job.
Going to be a beautiful home.
Hi, I’ve been a subscriber for years and love watching the videos you guys put together. I am studying architecture and was wondering if the full set of plans for the spec house series are available for download for Essential Craftsman Academy members? Or other plans from different builds would be great too! Thank you, keep up the great work and awesome content!
Woodworking RUclips is the greatest. Highest ratio of good, helpful guys to bad, useless guys.
Well done video, the editing seems seamless. Westinghouse design and your construction company seems top-notch.
Love the music
Ow what a coincidence, I worked Wadsworth in my previous site at Waikeria Prison here in New Zealand❤❤❤❤
I've watched many framing videos and this is the first one to show standing the exterior walls with the sheathing and wrap on them. Never understood why you would expend the extra labor to sheath after the wall is standing. Been in construction 40 years (90% commercial) and I have never stood an exterior without sheathing except when working alone. But I have an obsession with effeciency. Good job!
MORE! MORE! MORE!!! I want more framing ( and building in general ) videos. Now get to work. (Please?)
10:01 you can see here - I think - how the “holding slightly out of plumb” helps when putting up an adjacent wall. The slightly leaning wall holds up the wall going up. (Or I’m nuts.)
I love the building, but can we just take a moment to appreciate the excellent music choice for this video. Many that bango was wicked, what is that instrumental called?
Great video. That is going to be a massive old house. You Americans do love to build huge, splaying houses. I’m sure you could pack something just as comfortable into a floor area half that size, and save on money, material, waste. The key is having an intelligent designer who knows how to use space efficiently. We need to start building smaller homes, to look after our planet. Small and stylish is better than big and boxy in my opinion.
Your joist layout should be figured around your where toilets are located. I check upstairs and down stairs make my layout work for both so when you start framing upstairs you just stack everything. Also important to know truss length before starting the job so you build the house the right size. A lot of people don’t know that.
That's actually a great idea.
@@michaelcarroll991only way to do it lol or your coming back hacking the floor up trying not to cut wires and plumbing.
This! 👏
Someone explain for me, at 13:15 we see the structure is not just wet but saturated, and that structure within days could be enclosed and perhaps even insulated/drywalled.
How does a builder manage wet conditions like this and ensure high levels of moisture are not present in the final build?
I did not fail to notice those vertival openings at some of the corners.What are they for?
Years ago, while building a house, the owner taught me about the 5 P's of business. Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance. Looks like that would have helped with the gas line install. Maybe the gas line should have been done close (with proper setbacks) to the electrical when it went in. One mess, one time, and everything in the best location for all the trades.
The army equivalent is 7 Ps. Proper prior preparation prevent piss poor performance.
This is literally what I needed to watch, we are going over our plans everyday and it’s so exciting but hard to learn all the details for our build.
we will now never hear the end of it,dopey has learned to read prints,god help us all!
Any rebar in those footings?
Ah the joy of building in the rain. All that timber and osb etc never really dries out properly before the building is fully enclosed. I was sweeping off standing water on the floors after the builders had left for the day to help.
You sound so much like your dad. That's cute. Dad is a awesome man like his son. I wished my sone wasn't such a blank. He would learn allot from me and go places. His choice. I still love him even tho he doesn't like me for I don't have a clue why. No one knows why. Much love and luck to you and your dad. God bless.
That little scrap fire they kept burning sure does look like it would be inviting on a cold, wet day of framing.
I am drawing up my own plans. Glad I am just building a simple skillion 24x24 post and beam square saddle notched cottage a section at a time. Hand dug foundation. Glulaming x2 2x12 and mortise and tenon them in for lofts. Ever think about a clover lawn? I like a gas powered cement mixer or old school 4x8 sheet to mix on. The one question I had was how to find solar south vs magnetic south. Important thing with a passive solar houses or solar panels to get angles and directions right. Swear modern houses are meant to cost money every month to live in. It's the design that's the problem. Towards equator underground makes sense to keep cooler. Up north off the ground to keep warmer. Me I want as much passive solar heat in the winter as I can get. So every window but egress windows faces south. Decided to build a Richardsonian Romanesque masonry post and beam earthship type cottage. NO TIRES. Complete with masonry heaters, stoves, and white ovens. I can get the stone I need local and cheap. The carter cost more than the stone. Somethings don't change. After I finish 3 24x24 sections plan on building a Broch. Doing it all out of pocket. So cost has been a factor. I have a few cubes of block saved up. Tried to mill a 20" diameter leaning dry white pine into 4 10x10 8 foot+ post. My saw died on first side after dropping tree to ground. Milling at the tree because can't move it.
Interesting idea to stand a wall a little out of plumb...
Geeze... still raining!
When possible request parralam psl. You dont have to worry about balanced vs unbalanced loads and camber issues causing out of level flooring systems.
Nate your a great commentator. I like your videos alot more.
Thank you Nate.... but there were several beam spots that weren't explained well.
Im probly late to ask but whats up with the black gravel? Or is it some other material..looks like gravel from my pov ..here in michigan we only have limestone gravel or road base which is reddish.
Columbia river basalt. Covers something like a 1000sq/miles of the pnw
Since the Spec House was completed there seems to be a disconnect between Nate and E.C. Would love to hear his input on these contractors practices compared to his. Just can't beat his experiential knowledge and the way he presents it to us
With respect (really!) if I was Nate this would be the last thing I’d do.
- Nate has to deal with these contractors every day, and the last thing he wants is to do anything that might possibly sour the relationship. EC might make very innocuous comments that could be misperceived. EC has a minor cult of personality now and that can gum things up.
- Or, more likely, EC is staying out of it from professional courtesy: pros have different ways of doing things and he doesn’t want to kibbitz just as he wouldn’t want them commenting on his work.
- Also, maybe Nate wants to do this one himself to continue to establish himself as an internet presence. So dad is staying out of it.
(I personally like the differences in tone and approach between Nate and EC. It’s like getting two different channels for the “price” of one. And I do hope both of these guys are doing voiceover. They have great approachable voices.)
@@johnsrabe Thanks for that perspective. I didn't think about it from that point of view. You have very valid points and I can't disagree with any of them. I retract my previous comment, however, I'll leave it posted so if anyone else felt the same way they can read your response and hopefully gain a different opinion as I did
@@not2intoutube Thanks for reading my overlong response and thanks especially for the kind and thoughtful reply. Have a good one!
How does the house ever dry out after getting soaked like that? How is mold not a huge problem?
Wouldn't the rain rot the wood? Genuine question
I understand that it can't be helped but I don't know how ok it is that the bare plywood floor take standing water. Is that plywood just very resistant to water absorption or can the sponging warp be reversed? Construction isn't my sphere of knowledge.
He did a video on this topic a while back in this series. Apparently, it's not an issue.
Interesting they didn’t have fireproofing on the I-joists, that’s code in New York.
14:40 but what are they for??
is it normal to burn garbage 10 feet from a newly framed house? i just never seen that on a jobsite but im 1000 miles away so
Non-framer here. What are those lines for on the OSB?
Nail placement for 16” on center or 24 on center for sheathing for 7/16 and 1/2” decking or 5/8” decking 3/4 and 25/32” subfloor for 16” on center joists
Note: in a perfect world staggered horizontally
@@derekowen9098 thank you sir!
groovy video.
You look as exhausted as a guy building a house, Nate. I hope you're getting some R&R throughout this process!?
You guys really need a sky trac. You could probably lift all your walls with it. 2 hernias later I’ll take the extra minute to hop on a machine then lay myself out for 3 months. You can fix a machine not your back.
Wish I could afford to build a house lol.
A good plumber should be happy to get more work, more billable hours and materials on which he can make a profit. ( as long as they can give a good quote/estimation for the job cost)
More time in a crawl space would not be fun though.
I think if a contractor is willing to let you film the build, they are likely a great contractor who isnt cutting corners and half assing anything
I agree!
I would be worried about all the lumber getting soaked and water logged and not drying out before it gets closed in.
Why do some faces of the house have house wrap and others don't? Why this Rev sheathing vs something like Zip sheathing?
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no pads for the sono tubes? dafuq?
Where is the old dude?
oh you mean Scott, this guy here is Scott's son
Your narration is getting as good as your fathers. And I can tell you have a heart like his!
Go easy Rafterman... That's Scott's pride and joy.
Nate, you’ve got a great speaking voice. Keep up the good work!
Raining all over that OSB. Within 5-10 years you'll have rot.
No, they won't. They literally did a video on this topic. It's extremely common in the PNW for a framed house to see rain and/or snow. They dry out just fine.
Nope, Like @ADBBuild already commented , there was a video earlier in this series about water on OSB, it performed much better than Exterior grade plywood. I do wonder however, and would be concerned if the deck sheeting was specified to be glued. I dont remember.
That concrete mixer looks like a waste of money. It has one function. More difficult to move.
I like to have fewer tools with more functionality, but to each their own
The only thing | see missing from this build is an elevator.
grass is replaceable
Reading Plans is a bit of an exaggeration for video description
I hate so many house designs like this one. They have irregular shape just to be pretty, making the design and build harder for little reason. It also hurts energy usage. Build basic boxes, people!
Except the music choice and level.. ."tip top tommel opp", 😂
Son?
Sorry it does tell you how to build a house if you know how to read it. That is the key though.
Very surprised you are not making this an all electric house. With solar , closed cell insulation, hi tech windows, heat pumps and IRA incentives this house could have been run for next to nothing. It is far passed time that we move on from fossil fuels. Very short sighted as a man with young children; as the world floods and burns.
Is that you as a youngster or your son ?