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The Electric Viking needs to stop worrying about bad comments on his channel .... it's not worth it.😂 A lot of people are buttt-hurt over EVs AND China ... so they will bring some negativity.
@@alexishart1989 I'm butt-hurt over EVs and China because I'm *NOT ALLOWED* to buy a Chinese EV right now. Politicians sold their souls to NADA and the oil lobby.
@@lordofsevenrealms China does have world class engines now. Just not the kind that's gonna make people deaf. And you are right about EVs, they were not big, but visible in the market.
@jackoneill28 which engine are you referring to ? The ones on BYD are only used to power generators...could you share reference any ICE engine from China that has proved to be successful on a large scale ?
If the people who have driven Chinese EVs and gave positive comments then those EVs must be good. Even Jim Farley (Ford CEO) said it himself. I admired Jim Farley for his honesty when he commended on his competitor's product
It is also important to note that Tesla and many other EV manufacturers now sell their vehicles mostly via the Internet rather than through dealerships. Saving thousands of dollars. They have maintenance hubs rather than dealerships.
this is the way of doing it in the future. Imagine the physical space saved alone from this. Just thinking about one small area where i live dealerships probably take up a good 5 acers of land alone that could be used to build for instance apartment blocks or units housing potentially a few hundred more people just in my area alone.
Well said! All these people who trash EVs have NEVER driven one! I bought a Tesla and I'm trading my Mercedes in for another Tesla as soon as I can! Legacy auto is doomed! Of course, my next purchase will also be a Tesla! Probably the Cyberbeast... We'll see!
You mean lazily reading tech headlines from the internet?...such prowess. I know more than this guy on the tech he reports off the internet, and can call him out every time. Like his delusions on China, anybody who's lived in China will tell you the truth about it.
@ Blind is the operative word in your name. Ask yourself: What is Electric Viking at its highest aspiration in a world where 75% of people think electric cars are a fad? We wait breathlessly for your RUclips channel to appear. Such pretentious dribble.
There are some Ford company ev RUclips personalities that are coming after The ElectricViking on their show. I don't trust them, just more bs. I trust the Electric Viking. 💚 Please have a thick skin. You're doing gods work. Stay strong! 😊👍
Nothing wrong with creative destruction. The market will absorb the discounted inventory of ICE cars, and employees will find other jobs. Competition will drive the weaker manufacturers out of the market, and the ones that survive will include the next Toyota and BMW.
The BYD Destroyer 5 DM-i, also known as the BYD Seal 5 DM-i is a compact sedan that has arrived in Asia and is poised to destroy the competition within the $20,000 price range. It's larger than a Corolla and Civic but smaller than a Camry, fitting into the compact sedan segment. In recent real-world testing in our country, it was able to achieved an impressive range of 1,600 km or 994 miles on a full tank of gas with a state of charge (SOC) of 100%. The top trim model is priced at $20,477.29 USD.
I agree with EVERYTHING you said. It will be MUCH worse next year and continue until nearly ALL ICE cars are gone. In 24 years EV's have gone from little more than an idea to their current level. Imagine the impact over the next 23 years.
The closure of dealerships in China will be the canary in the coalmine for subsequent reductions in Europe and America, because many Western OEMs have been accustomed to making and taking VERY large profits in the Chinese market. The losses of revenue and profit that previously paid for global overhead and product development will directly impact future timelines and quality. VW Auto Group (VAG), etc. are going to take massive hits, and they will see massive contraction of their product lines, falling farther behind the leading edge.
It's coming. Tesla will be announcing less expensive models this next year. Also as China expands its EV production into the EU and Mexico prices for supplies to make EVs will plummet even further.
@@nickmcconnell1291 Trump is imposing huge tariffs on Mexico, so the Chinese EV companies making cars there to avoid Biden's 100% tariff are out of luck.
You're not getting cheap EVs in the US while you have a 100% tariff on the most advanced EVs. Those tariffs are a clear signal the US has lost world leadership in new tech.
@@kenoliver8913 no, they're a clear signal that the US won't tolerate the CCP's predatory tactics designed to destroy manufacturing. As for "most advanced EVs", what a joke. There's only one reason people buy Chinese cars: BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAP
Um, didn't the guy you promote so much here laugh at Chinese EVs. I don't think Elon's laughing now. I'm in US and never understood the whole anti-China, anti-Asia. I always had good relationships with colleagues in China, Malaysia and Taiwan. Good, intelligent people and China is once again discovering it's creativity that ancient China was revered for, before the west's opium wars against it.
"I'm in US and never understood the whole anti-China, anti-Asia." The secret sauce you're missing is white supremacy. Its not deliberate, but if you're told from birth that "the west" is the best in history, and also that "white people made the west", you're going to be confused as hell to start with when asians start beating white people.
Of course Elon is laughing..Tesla is the most profitable and also valuable volume car manufacturer in the World..Automotive cost of production is lower than any other volume manufacturer..And In fact Tesla is worth more than the next 10 or so manufacturers combined! Autonomy via FSD subscriptions and licensing deals, Carbon credits, Ai, Energy and Robotics will produce profits that will dwarf Automotive margins by the end of this decade.. You still wonder if Tesla and Musk aren't laughing all their way to the Bank..?
I've NEVER driven a Chinese EV, but I'm not going to keep my opinion to myself because everyone is entitled to my opinion. Chinese EVs are friggen awesome.
You’re absolutely right. Given facts doesn’t need defending. Why should you as a passenger not leave a sinking ship just because it float so well before? The future is electric, not combustion. It’s a strange stubborn mindset to hold on to combustion. I hope the value of the second hand Tesla Y will bring this into my financial reach to switch from diesel to electric. Can’t wait!
In fact, Tesla's sales in China are also quite good, China never banned it but invited it during Trade War as catfish effect, CCP respects capitalism more than USA
If it was capitalism the consumer marketplace would decide on what was best, ICE vehicles or electric vehicles. It would not be decided by bureaucrats at the top of government. The USA government still provides some incentives to get people to try EVs, but they don't force them. Consumers still buy far more ICE vehicles that EVs, I think it a 5:1 ratio, maybe even 6:1. The consumers want ICE vehicles, that's what the car companies make for them.
Here in Vietnam, So many people are negative on EVs. Of course these people have never driven or owned one, or even have the money to buy one. We bought a Vinfast E34 two years ago. It worked well with a few minor issues. Just bought a new VF6 +. We love this car. The only downside is the power is so high it makes the torque steer a little scary when you punch it. We just installed 8 KW of solar panels and batteries/inverter. We drive for free as the sun (a fusion reactor) provides the power. I threw our old Tokamak into the trash. I finally solved the fusion problem
I live in Mexico and am looking for an EV. Just drove a BYD Song and was highly impressed by the manufacturing quality, the fit, finish, options, luxury, ride, warranty and price/value. Nothing out of Japan, Korea or Europe comes close in terms of price-performance and Chinese vehicles have rapidly grabbed 25% of Mexican sales this year and are just getting started. The future of manufacturing HIGH QUALITY precision consumer items is China
I’ve driven 40 Ev’s here in Sydney Chinese Korean American Japanese I can confirm the Chinese eV’s are very good Sam Evans is an expert in EV’s See him at Electric Everything in 2025 in Sydney Ask him any question He can handle it Keep up the great work Sam the EV (electric Viking) Evans
China is progressing on all fronts. Its EVs development is incredibly impressive. All countries have subsidy in the form of tax incentives rebates etc. subsidy is not a crime. It is a blessing to green technology boost businesses affordability to global consumers 👍❤️🇨🇳
You are doing a spectacular job Sam! Really enjoy your videos. You tell the truth based on objective facts. Any accusation against you for "pro this..." or "anti that..." is pure cow dung. Keep doing what you are doing because we love what you are doing!
Well, who claimed China was the main contributor to climate change? Now China went EV, adopted solar, etc. the loss of ICE is already expected... China adopted EV faster than Europe mainly cause European manufacturers are still groveling in ICE
Don't mind them mate. They are traditionalist. I am looking forward to the future tech especially EV and its ecosystem. Your channel helped me keep track of the growing EV forecast and potential.
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Hi. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for all the work you do keeping us informed. Living in Ireland the car I have at present is an ICE Nissan and I dearly hope my next car will be electric although I'm retired and not that well off. The worrying thing from your videos is that companies like Nissan are going bust and Chinese cars are the new thing - yet when I hear news like the Fisker company going bust and anyone who has one can no longer get it serviced or upgraded software etc. If we no longer have long-standing brands like Nissan or whatever that (whatever their quality) we at least believed they would still be there making parts (or with EVs upgrades) and repair centres etc. How can we trust buying a Chinese brand, which although being 'superior' - the company itself may disappear and we're left with a car which if the screen goes - the *car* no longer works? Just wondering????? As a comparable example some years back I bought a generic android phone that was much cheaper than Samsung and had good spec. The only problem was, when it fell and the screen broke, I had a problem getting a replacement. From then I just bought Samsung - not because I thought it was better but because I could buy (and replace myself) the screen as these were easy and cheap to get on the internet. Will these new (and I can well believe superior) Chinese cars have the reliable infrastructure for us to get parts and software upgrades without which our cars will become 'bricks'?
Screw em, just keep reporting the facts mate. While 4000 sounds like a total collapse, it's easy to forget just how big China is. I wonder what that number is in terms of percentage of the total.
Relative to population it would be 100 dealerships in Australia and 800 in the US. Interesting to hear how many failed in both. My guess is sunbed dealers are failing becuse they also stock items no longer in demand.
I agree: I have no opinion on Chinese EVs because I’ve never tried one. I do read up on EV tech and it *feels* like they are ahead of everyone, perhaps even Tesla. Here in Canada we might not get to experience them in our market for some time. Certainly, I would not buy one today for fear of lack of lack of service infrastructure, but that’s not a knock on the car quality. I also think we in North America may end up thanking the Chinese for transitioning their mobility needs off fossil fuel based technology faster than we did.
One of the really wonderful things about Mercedes is that I have no doubt 10 years from now it will exist to do my replacement parts. Do my service. If there is such rabid price competition in China, can you identify which of the Johnny come lately brands will still be around 5 years from now and won't that affect your ability to sell your used Ev especially if there are no guarantees on the battery
Well said mate! I thought Chinese EV’s where just cheap Chinese shite, having never driven one or doing any real research. Then not long ago I had a conversation with a bloke who drove a BYD, I asked him what is was like and he was very impressed. He was generous enough with his time to give me a good look at the vehicle and a run down on the technology and performance. He told me he had friends who drove Tesla’s and that they thought the BYD was a better vehicle all round. Since then I have been researching the Chinese EV industry and subsequently found your channel. I was ignorant and I must admit a little prejudiced in my previous view. As the old saying goes “ there’s no point having a mind if you can’t change it, and if you can’t change your mind then you never had one in the first place “!
the money you pay for a BMW MERC, is for their name not the product they supply, several old hand motor mechanics over the years have told me they are money pits, along with VW, Audi, the components are over priced in relation to the quality of the item, never buy them.
As of 2024, there were 26,779 car dealerships in China, a 2% decline from 2023. The number of car dealerships in China has declined by an average of 2% per year between 2019 and 2024.
Absolutely true Sam. People comment without ever trying a vehicle and deciding for themselves, based upon their findings. I haven't tried any EVs apart from a Tesla MY RWD which I owned and a BYD Atto 3 which I still own. Both of these vehicles I've found amazing. I know, based upon my usage and overall experience, that I would never ever go back to ICE vehicles. They are dead in my mind. I've even seriously given consideration to buying an ICE powered motorbike but just can't do it as I feel it would be a backwards step. I know that the motorcycle electric technology is not there yet generally, but I'd rather stick to my eBike - an electric assisted bicycle - and go for two wheel rides that way then buy some 500-750cc ICE pollution monster.
But it's not exactly capitalism when the Chinese Government is using subsidies, rebates and straight up financial support to favor Chinese EV manufacturers is it? That is not capitalism it is the Chinese Government manipulating things.
Oversupply and market saturation always end in mass “wealth “ destruction. This happens in every sector of the economy. There’s a lot to be said for better market regulation or management if you like. Look at the wine industry in Australia or other agricultural markets. A new niche market emerges and the early adopters expand quite rapidly. Then more companies appear or growers move into producing and before long the market becomes saturated. Then competition becomes fierce, prices drop and those producers lose financial situations are heavily indebted start to further erode prices and a downward spiral ensues. Eventually prices bottom out and bankruptcies start.
I paid almost 100k$ for my Audi e-tron. My wife bought a MG to 38k$. The MG battery is loosing far less power during the winter months. So our normal brands are having an extreme competition from Chinese brands.
Buddy you do good job...so carry on no problem and some who lives in delusions leave them....they are blind, arrogant , ignorant...it's same like talk to wall ...so it's no point.... Well done buddy you do very good Job
There are a lot of Chinese haters in America and the UK that say they would never buy Chinese made crap. But they buy MG, Volvo, Polestar, Dji, Lenovo, Hisense, insta360, Xiaomi, and iPhones. 😂
That is a good solution to the growing worldwide labor shortage. A reverse effect of scale-less manufacturing, less service, more automation, and so on-leading to a downward spiral.
There's no end to people's subjectivism and credulessness. I remember the way people used to calumny Japanese cars when they first started appearing in the West until it finally sunk through that they were a better deal than the "traditional" brands.
Personally I have no idea what is happening in China or whether Electric cars are any good. What I do think is that software is an electric cars achilles heal. If a particular cars software is no longer supported by the OEM, that car will become worthless and will only continue to work until the software stops working. This applies to modern ICE cars and you only need to look at computers, phones etc that OEM's withdraw support
I checked a BYD Seal in the show room last year. I knew it was all over for so called "legacy" car makers. The clunk on the door close. Just like an old school Merc
About 15% of car sales in China turned from ICE to EV this year, so it does track with 15% of dealerships going bankrupt; their market, after all, has vanished.
@@ZweiZwolf And it shows on the streets, you don't hear much of engine sounds. It's a really strange feeling if you are new to this kind of environment. I often recommend people go and watch some China travel vlogs, they really show you how the change feels like.
@@jackoneill28 The sound is part of it, but it's also heat that you can actually feel radiating from a large diesel engine as it passes by on the street. ICE engines waste 1/2 to 2/3 of fuel energy as heat, whereas EVs generate almost no waste heat. It's really striking being in Shenzhen vs Hong Kong.
@@jasonmugridge HK is still HK, because the PRC prefers it that way, as a global bridge for those who need it. Maybe in 100 years, HK will be integrated with right hand drive and deep land reform. Maybe.
The advertising for cars in the US is never about the car itself or technology. Its about feelings and finances incentives. You can take that Chevy brand and look good.
I see some Thai car dealers are exited Nissan, Mazda, Suzuki, etc to switching to selling Chinese EVs instead. I think they made the wrong decision. I see they are selling less cars than before. And EVs require less maintenance.
Everybody who's tested Chinese EVs and hybrids (MKBHD, Fully Charged Show, The Fast Lane Truck, etc.) are in owe of how good these vehicles are. The Chinophobia like any other artificially created phobia is an ugly product of the msm machine manufacturing public consent based on hearsay and outright lies. Which is why shows like this are gaining popularity.
Chinese EV’s are outstanding, price quality, but not all of them, Xpeng amazing, byd great value for your bucks , +++ but some smaller companies will have problems to compete, and will go bankrupt, but it will boil down to 3-5 top Chinese manufacturers , world wide. Sorry US will lose out big time due to “politics”
I’ve tried some Chinese EV and they are ok however they don’t have a track record so am reluctant to buy one at the moment. And yes I think a BMW is better than any Chinese EV. BMW have alway had a good reputation. Haven’t seen too many bad reviews on any BMW. You can’t gauge long term reliably of a Zeekr by just sitting in it. Maybe in time they will build a reputation and I will reconsider.
Y'know what I want? A very LOW TECH electric 4x4. Simple, reliable, no autopilot, tracking or gizmos. I want a workhorse. An electric landrover suitable for the farm. Decent heater, good lights, maybe a heated seat, tow hitch, but otherwise simple and sturdy.
Petrol car only get more and more expensive, electric cars ( specially in China) get cheaper and cheaper for the cost, but not cheap at all. You get a lot for your money.
One understands that the transition from ICE to EV presents governments with a very practical problem: namely, the revenues necessary to maintain and upgrade roads is declining rapidly because much of those revenues come from taxes on gasoline. What to do? :(
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It's game over for legacy automakers. They will try to squeez European customers and keep selling them obsolete and overpriced CEV, but that will not save them. To much arrogance, greed and management inflated ego spells their doom.
This development will discourage potential buyers from buying ICE because 1. If they shut for good , you lost your deposit 2. You won’t be able to service your car or uphold the warranty 3. After a few months buying the car , you find that they have discounted the model and you lost more than you anticipated 4. Trying to sell your 2nd hand to dealers after a few yrs wld be almost impossible to
Too expensive. Looking back, my greatest fun driving was with my morris minor and my first bubble car. I dislike smart cars. The previous cars that I have owned were VW golf’s and I loved them but they are getting too smart now. The latest one, I could not drive it out of the showroom without the dealer giving me a driving instruction !
The problem with EV opponents is that they don't understand how advanced EV technology is, but it is actually only at the beginning of development. And this is in contrast to legacy car technology, which has been in development for 150 years but basically offers nothing new. For a long time, people laughed about the range of EVs. Now they laugh about FSD. But this technology will come and change everything that has gone before. We are not just talking about how energy is consumed, but how energy will be produced and shared in the future. And I completely agree on one point. You have to test an EV yourself. But if you do that, you will almost certainly never buy a car with a combustion engine again. That is the experience I had.
With the EU and US being unkind to Chinese car makers, the average Chinese have decided to buy local. Their government did not have to say a word about boycotts. The foreign car dealerships are the only one's who have suffered. The Chinese car makers are busy buying up the closing EU factories, to build their cars in Europe. No tariffs can apply to local makers.
These initial phases spikes and ripples don’t address large-scale metropolis feasibility issues. It’s just another hype to drive investors before they cash out on the people.
Get the best ... Only one problem: Nio, Xpeng never ever made a profit and without new money inflow they will go bust. Bust means residual value going to ZERO. Who wants to take such a risk??? Me not
In a ideal world you should have a EV and a ICE car the governments have gone about this all wrong the public don’t like being forced to do anything leave it to the market the best will survive.
I have had an Atto3 This is my first Chinese car and my last.. Software is crap, Battery just suddenly dies, goes from 30% to zero in a blink. Range is a joke, you never know when your range is gone.
Legacy brands are still cool, they just moved too much towards the top of the market so no one could afford them. And their cars to cater to everyday people are total shitboxes
The only customers legacy auto has in the United States are car dealerships whose profits model is based on car repairs and maintenance. Brake jobs, spark plugs, oil changes, exhaust, transmissions, starters, radiators are their money makers. EVs have no routine maintenance or repairs so they don't fit into the dealership profit model. The dealership model is based on ICE cars breaking down and needing expensive repairs. Therefore it is in the dealers interest to promote vehicles needing constant expensive maintenance and repairs. Why would they even want to sell any EVs that need no repairs? .Better to promote fear, uncertainty and doubt and get you to buy that familiar gas guzzler. It is a business model that doesnt make sense.
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The Electric Viking needs to stop worrying about bad comments on his channel .... it's not worth it.😂
A lot of people are buttt-hurt over EVs AND China ... so they will bring some negativity.
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I'm butt-hurt over EVs and China because I can't afford a Chinese EV right now.
@@alexishart1989
Chinese EVs are affordable. Something "happened" somewhere along the line.
@@alexishart1989 That's a different kind of butt hurt though...
@@alexishart1989
I'm butt-hurt over EVs and China because I'm *NOT ALLOWED* to buy a Chinese EV right now. Politicians sold their souls to NADA and the oil lobby.
I worked in 2007 Shanghai motor show and that moment I already knew China automotives will beat Japanese in the future and here we are.
How ? They didn't have world class engines and still don't. EVs weren't much of a thing back then either.
@@lordofsevenrealms China does have world class engines now. Just not the kind that's gonna make people deaf. And you are right about EVs, they were not big, but visible in the market.
@jackoneill28 which engine are you referring to ? The ones on BYD are only used to power generators...could you share reference any ICE engine from China that has proved to be successful on a large scale ?
@@lordofsevenrealms Benz's next gen model will be using Geely's engine
@@GForce162 Is it an ICE or a BYD like series hybrid in which the engine doesn't power the wheels and instead powers the battery ?
If the people who have driven Chinese EVs and gave positive comments then those EVs must be good. Even Jim Farley (Ford CEO) said it himself. I admired Jim Farley for his honesty when he commended on his competitor's product
Thank you for asking people who have never driven Chinese vehicles not to offer opinions on them.
They are nice rides. Not built to last like an Ice car. Chinese mainlanders know this fact
I'm sure you never comment on things that you haven't experienced first-hand? It's an OUTRAGEOUS request.
Not to contradict someone who does have have first hand knowledge I lack
@danielb7253 have you driven 1?
@MichaelEllyett you are not well!
Had merc and bmw, audi , Porsche etc etc, driving a Tesla model y, can not wait to get my hands onto the new Chinese EVs,
Those old Mercurys from decades ago were very nice vehicles. ;-)
We have an EV scooter from China, and we love it!
🛵💚💚💚💚💚
The CEO of Ford drives a Xiaomi.
Note that it's partly a publicity stunt to push his people to do better and to push the American and other governments to give more subsidies.
You’re kidding!!
@@ChalrieD No, he's not.
@@ChalrieD he said it himself.... can't let it go
... and loving it.
I've seen a few youtube videos on Chinese EVs and they do look pretty good!
It is also important to note that Tesla and many other EV manufacturers now sell their vehicles mostly via the Internet rather than through dealerships. Saving thousands of dollars. They have maintenance hubs rather than dealerships.
this is the way of doing it in the future. Imagine the physical space saved alone from this. Just thinking about one small area where i live dealerships probably take up a good 5 acers of land alone that could be used to build for instance apartment blocks or units housing potentially a few hundred more people just in my area alone.
Well said! All these people who trash EVs have NEVER driven one! I bought a Tesla and I'm trading my Mercedes in for another Tesla as soon as I can! Legacy auto is doomed! Of course, my next purchase will also be a Tesla! Probably the Cyberbeast... We'll see!
where i live, the next big city is 450km away
where i live the streets aren't perfect
where i live sometimes it rains hard.
Keep calling them like you see ‘em, brother! You’re sourcing a lot of material to bring us intel. We greatly appreciate your work.
You mean lazily reading tech headlines from the internet?...such prowess. I know more than this guy on the tech he reports off the internet, and can call him out every time. Like his delusions on China, anybody who's lived in China will tell you the truth about it.
@ Blind is the operative word in your name. Ask yourself: What is Electric Viking at its highest aspiration in a world where 75% of people think electric cars are a fad? We wait breathlessly for your RUclips channel to appear. Such pretentious dribble.
There are some Ford company ev RUclips personalities that are coming after The ElectricViking on their show. I don't trust them, just more bs. I trust the Electric Viking. 💚
Please have a thick skin. You're doing gods work.
Stay strong! 😊👍
Nothing wrong with creative destruction. The market will absorb the discounted inventory of ICE cars, and employees will find other jobs. Competition will drive the weaker manufacturers out of the market, and the ones that survive will include the next Toyota and BMW.
Yeah. And the automotive market clearly needs to be cleansed. Talk about a stagnant market before Tesla arrived.
The BYD Destroyer 5 DM-i, also known as the BYD Seal 5 DM-i is a compact sedan that has arrived in Asia and is poised to destroy the competition within the $20,000 price range. It's larger than a Corolla and Civic but smaller than a Camry, fitting into the compact sedan segment. In recent real-world testing in our country, it was able to achieved an impressive range of 1,600 km or 994 miles on a full tank of gas with a state of charge (SOC) of 100%. The top trim model is priced at $20,477.29 USD.
Thank you for your insightful comments
Any time!
I can’t wait for the byd Ute to come out
I agree with EVERYTHING you said. It will be MUCH worse next year and continue until nearly ALL ICE cars are gone. In 24 years EV's have gone from little more than an idea to their current level. Imagine the impact over the next 23 years.
Thanks bro, for everything.
Any time!
I went to Shenzhen China for the first time this year. It was like jumping into the future. I don’t think any western city comes close.
Yes it’s fascinating to watch, and what I find really interesting is how most people in the west still think China is stuck in the past.
The closure of dealerships in China will be the canary in the coalmine for subsequent reductions in Europe and America, because many Western OEMs have been accustomed to making and taking VERY large profits in the Chinese market. The losses of revenue and profit that previously paid for global overhead and product development will directly impact future timelines and quality. VW Auto Group (VAG), etc. are going to take massive hits, and they will see massive contraction of their product lines, falling farther behind the leading edge.
Keep up the good work and all these great videos doing a wonderful job! Oregon ❤
Thank you very much!
Can’t wait for a really cheap anything EV in the US
It's coming. Tesla will be announcing less expensive models this next year. Also as China expands its EV production into the EU and Mexico prices for supplies to make EVs will plummet even further.
here @ AU, a base Ora hatch is U$22k..... cheap enough yet?
@@nickmcconnell1291 Trump is imposing huge tariffs on Mexico, so the Chinese EV companies making cars there to avoid Biden's 100% tariff are out of luck.
You're not getting cheap EVs in the US while you have a 100% tariff on the most advanced EVs. Those tariffs are a clear signal the US has lost world leadership in new tech.
@@kenoliver8913 no, they're a clear signal that the US won't tolerate the CCP's predatory tactics designed to destroy manufacturing.
As for "most advanced EVs", what a joke. There's only one reason people buy Chinese cars: BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAP
Facts, not Feelings. Exactly!!!!
Um, didn't the guy you promote so much here laugh at Chinese EVs. I don't think Elon's laughing now.
I'm in US and never understood the whole anti-China, anti-Asia. I always had good relationships with colleagues in China, Malaysia and Taiwan. Good, intelligent people and China is once again discovering it's creativity that ancient China was revered for, before the west's opium wars against it.
"I'm in US and never understood the whole anti-China, anti-Asia." The secret sauce you're missing is white supremacy. Its not deliberate, but if you're told from birth that "the west" is the best in history, and also that "white people made the west", you're going to be confused as hell to start with when asians start beating white people.
Of course Elon is laughing..Tesla is the most profitable and also valuable volume car manufacturer in the World..Automotive cost of production is lower than any other volume manufacturer..And In fact Tesla is worth more than the next 10 or so manufacturers combined!
Autonomy via FSD subscriptions and licensing deals, Carbon credits, Ai, Energy and Robotics will produce profits that will dwarf Automotive margins by the end of this decade..
You still wonder if Tesla and Musk aren't laughing all their way to the Bank..?
I've NEVER driven a Chinese EV, but I'm not going to keep my opinion to myself because everyone is entitled to my opinion. Chinese EVs are friggen awesome.
A positive or at least constructive opinions is more legit that just China bad.
So it's OK to have an uneducated opinion, as long as it agrees with that of the EV fanbois?
Total disgrace. Chinese EVs are poor quality and will catch fire within a year.
@@michaelnoble2432 Correct.
@@thetreekeeper143 That's nonsense. Stop listening to Scotty Kilmer.
it's like a camera shop selling film cameras and a phone shop selling nokia and motorola phones and they hope to make a buck on their business.....
You’re absolutely right. Given facts doesn’t need defending. Why should you as a passenger not leave a sinking ship just because it float so well before? The future is electric, not combustion. It’s a strange stubborn mindset to hold on to combustion. I hope the value of the second hand Tesla Y will bring this into my financial reach to switch from diesel to electric. Can’t wait!
In fact, Tesla's sales in China are also quite good, China never banned it but invited it during Trade War as catfish effect, CCP respects capitalism more than USA
its actual name is CPC, communist party of china
If it was capitalism the consumer marketplace would decide on what was best, ICE vehicles or electric vehicles. It would not be decided by bureaucrats at the top of government. The USA government still provides some incentives to get people to try EVs, but they don't force them. Consumers still buy far more ICE vehicles that EVs, I think it a 5:1 ratio, maybe even 6:1. The consumers want ICE vehicles, that's what the car companies make for them.
Then open the US market to Chinese EVs without tariffs and let’s see if we really believe in capitalism.
i think my comment just got deleted so ill say it again, the name of the party is actually CPC, communist party of china
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Here in Vietnam, So many people are negative on EVs. Of course these people have never driven or owned one, or even have the money to buy one. We bought a Vinfast E34 two years ago. It worked well with a few minor issues. Just bought a new VF6 +. We love this car. The only downside is the power is so high it makes the torque steer a little scary when you punch it. We just installed 8 KW of solar panels and batteries/inverter. We drive for free as the sun (a fusion reactor) provides the power. I threw our old Tokamak into the trash. I finally solved the fusion problem
I live in Mexico and am looking for an EV. Just drove a BYD Song and was highly impressed by the manufacturing quality, the fit, finish, options, luxury, ride, warranty and price/value. Nothing out of Japan, Korea or Europe comes close in terms of price-performance and Chinese vehicles have rapidly grabbed 25% of Mexican sales this year and are just getting started. The future of manufacturing HIGH QUALITY precision consumer items is China
I’ve driven 40 Ev’s here in Sydney
Chinese Korean American Japanese
I can confirm the Chinese eV’s are very good
Sam Evans is an expert in EV’s
See him at Electric Everything in 2025 in Sydney
Ask him any question
He can handle it
Keep up the great work
Sam the EV (electric Viking) Evans
I'm here in California and genuinely enjoy the information and research from your videos ❤.
China is progressing on all fronts. Its EVs development is incredibly impressive. All countries have subsidy in the form of tax incentives rebates etc. subsidy is not a crime. It is a blessing to green technology boost businesses affordability to global consumers 👍❤️🇨🇳
Yes, you can only order the Xiaomi on your smartphone. You only go to a show room for the test drive and pickup
So better than dealing with sales people and there games
You are doing a spectacular job Sam! Really enjoy your videos. You tell the truth based on objective facts. Any accusation against you for "pro this..." or "anti that..." is pure cow dung. Keep doing what you are doing because we love what you are doing!
Well, who claimed China was the main contributor to climate change? Now China went EV, adopted solar, etc. the loss of ICE is already expected... China adopted EV faster than Europe mainly cause European manufacturers are still groveling in ICE
Don't mind them mate. They are traditionalist. I am looking forward to the future tech especially EV and its ecosystem. Your channel helped me keep track of the growing EV forecast and potential.
On a population basis 4000 dealership closing is a similar ratio to 15 closing in Ireland. Hardly a crisis.
هنآك أشخاص غير متعودين على سماع الحقائق
طوال حياتهم يستمعون لأشخاص يتحدثون عن كل شىء بشكل وردي ولا يقولون الحقيقة المؤلمة
لهذا عندما يستمعون لأحد يتحدث عن الحقيقة بالارقام هذا الشئ يكون جديد بنسبة لهم
So true. Try them first. Than comment...
Hi. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for all the work you do keeping us informed. Living in Ireland the car I have at present is an ICE Nissan and I dearly hope my next car will be electric although I'm retired and not that well off. The worrying thing from your videos is that companies like Nissan are going bust and Chinese cars are the new thing - yet when I hear news like the Fisker company going bust and anyone who has one can no longer get it serviced or upgraded software etc. If we no longer have long-standing brands like Nissan or whatever that (whatever their quality) we at least believed they would still be there making parts (or with EVs upgrades) and repair centres etc.
How can we trust buying a Chinese brand, which although being 'superior' - the company itself may disappear and we're left with a car which if the screen goes - the *car* no longer works?
Just wondering?????
As a comparable example some years back I bought a generic android phone that was much cheaper than Samsung and had good spec. The only problem was, when it fell and the screen broke, I had a problem getting a replacement. From then I just bought Samsung - not because I thought it was better but because I could buy (and replace myself) the screen as these were easy and cheap to get on the internet.
Will these new (and I can well believe superior) Chinese cars have the reliable infrastructure for us to get parts and software upgrades without which our cars will become 'bricks'?
Keep the good work. Greetings from BRA
Screw em, just keep reporting the facts mate. While 4000 sounds like a total collapse, it's easy to forget just how big China is. I wonder what that number is in terms of percentage of the total.
Relative to population it would be 100 dealerships in Australia and 800 in the US. Interesting to hear how many failed in both. My guess is sunbed dealers are failing becuse they also stock items no longer in demand.
He said 34000 total, so it's about 12% , but that they'd been losing 2000 year in prior years.
I agree: I have no opinion on Chinese EVs because I’ve never tried one. I do read up on EV tech and it *feels* like they are ahead of everyone, perhaps even Tesla. Here in Canada we might not get to experience them in our market for some time. Certainly, I would not buy one today for fear of lack of lack of service infrastructure, but that’s not a knock on the car quality. I also think we in North America may end up thanking the Chinese for transitioning their mobility needs off fossil fuel based technology faster than we did.
One of the really wonderful things about Mercedes is that I have no doubt 10 years from now it will exist to do my replacement parts. Do my service. If there is such rabid price competition in China, can you identify which of the Johnny come lately brands will still be around 5 years from now and won't that affect your ability to sell your used Ev especially if there are no guarantees on the battery
Well said mate! I thought Chinese EV’s where just cheap Chinese shite, having never driven one or doing any real research. Then not long ago I had a conversation with a bloke who drove a BYD, I asked him what is was like and he was very impressed. He was generous enough with his time to give me a good look at the vehicle and a run down on the technology and performance. He told me he had friends who drove Tesla’s and that they thought the BYD was a better vehicle all round. Since then I have been researching the Chinese EV industry and subsequently found your channel. I was ignorant and I must admit a little prejudiced in my previous view.
As the old saying goes “ there’s no point having a mind if you can’t change it, and if you can’t change your mind then you never had one in the first place “!
the money you pay for a BMW MERC, is for their name not the product they supply, several old hand motor mechanics over the years have told me they are money pits, along with VW, Audi, the components are over priced in relation to the quality of the item, never buy them.
I was in Mexico last week. I go every year. Few years ago no Chinese cars, now lots of them
As of 2024, there were 26,779 car dealerships in China, a 2% decline from 2023. The number of car dealerships in China has declined by an average of 2% per year between 2019 and 2024.
Absolutely true Sam. People comment without ever trying a vehicle and deciding for themselves, based upon their findings. I haven't tried any EVs apart from a Tesla MY RWD which I owned and a BYD Atto 3 which I still own. Both of these vehicles I've found amazing. I know, based upon my usage and overall experience, that I would never ever go back to ICE vehicles. They are dead in my mind. I've even seriously given consideration to buying an ICE powered motorbike but just can't do it as I feel it would be a backwards step. I know that the motorcycle electric technology is not there yet generally, but I'd rather stick to my eBike - an electric assisted bicycle - and go for two wheel rides that way then buy some 500-750cc ICE pollution monster.
Thank for all the informative videos.
When people are broke and angry they tend to get delusional, there have to be a escape 🐐
We support you, Sam.
Excellent
About Chinese cars. You are 💯 right.
Where do you get all this information. I must admit it's very interesting.
capitalism at its best > bad business goes kaput
But it's not exactly capitalism when the Chinese Government is using subsidies, rebates and straight up financial support to favor Chinese EV manufacturers is it?
That is not capitalism it is the Chinese Government manipulating things.
Sam keep up the good work. I watch your videos and they are objective for the most part. You aren’t trying to pump Tesla stock like some others
Oversupply and market saturation always end in mass “wealth “ destruction. This happens in every sector of the economy. There’s a lot to be said for better market regulation or management if you like. Look at the wine industry in Australia or other agricultural markets. A new niche market emerges and the early adopters expand quite rapidly. Then more companies appear or growers move into producing and before long the market becomes saturated. Then competition becomes fierce, prices drop and those producers lose financial situations are heavily indebted start to further erode prices and a downward spiral ensues. Eventually prices bottom out and bankruptcies start.
Well said and explaining bout facts... keep up Viking🎉🎉
I paid almost 100k$ for my Audi e-tron. My wife bought a MG to 38k$. The MG battery is loosing far less power during the winter months. So our normal brands are having an extreme competition from Chinese brands.
I think 2024 is the year where several Chinese cars have surpassed the quality of premium legacy brands.
dont worry about the comments ,your hard work is obvious.
Buddy you do good job...so carry on no problem and some who lives in delusions leave them....they are blind, arrogant , ignorant...it's same like talk to wall ...so it's no point....
Well done buddy you do very good Job
There are a lot of Chinese haters in America and the UK that say they would never buy Chinese made crap.
But they buy MG, Volvo, Polestar, Dji, Lenovo, Hisense, insta360, Xiaomi, and iPhones. 😂
That is a good solution to the growing worldwide labor shortage. A reverse effect of scale-less manufacturing, less service, more automation, and so on-leading to a downward spiral.
There's no end to people's subjectivism and credulessness. I remember the way people used to calumny Japanese cars when they first started appearing in the West until it finally sunk through that they were a better deal than the "traditional" brands.
Personally I have no idea what is happening in China or whether Electric cars are any good. What I do think is that software is an electric cars achilles heal. If a particular cars software is no longer supported by the OEM, that car will become worthless and will only continue to work until the software stops working. This applies to modern ICE cars and you only need to look at computers, phones etc that OEM's withdraw support
I checked a BYD Seal in the show room last year. I knew it was all over for so called "legacy" car makers. The clunk on the door close. Just like an old school Merc
About 15% of car sales in China turned from ICE to EV this year, so it does track with 15% of dealerships going bankrupt; their market, after all, has vanished.
China's NEV sales are now over 50% of the market. It's a massive change.
@@ZweiZwolf And it shows on the streets, you don't hear much of engine sounds. It's a really strange feeling if you are new to this kind of environment. I often recommend people go and watch some China travel vlogs, they really show you how the change feels like.
@@jackoneill28 The sound is part of it, but it's also heat that you can actually feel radiating from a large diesel engine as it passes by on the street. ICE engines waste 1/2 to 2/3 of fuel energy as heat, whereas EVs generate almost no waste heat. It's really striking being in Shenzhen vs Hong Kong.
@@ZweiZwolfhaven’t been to HK for a while so hadn’t realised this, so their not moving as quick as the mainland then.
@@jasonmugridge HK is still HK, because the PRC prefers it that way, as a global bridge for those who need it. Maybe in 100 years, HK will be integrated with right hand drive and deep land reform. Maybe.
You know what is the craziest thing about this situation. I live in Poland and I don’t think there is 4000 car dealership in total.
The advertising for cars in the US is never about the car itself or technology. Its about feelings and finances incentives. You can take that Chevy brand and look good.
I see some Thai car dealers are exited Nissan, Mazda, Suzuki, etc to switching to selling Chinese EVs instead. I think they made the wrong decision. I see they are selling less cars than before. And EVs require less maintenance.
Everybody who's tested Chinese EVs and hybrids (MKBHD, Fully Charged Show, The Fast Lane Truck, etc.) are in owe of how good these vehicles are. The Chinophobia like any other artificially created phobia is an ugly product of the msm machine manufacturing public consent based on hearsay and outright lies. Which is why shows like this are gaining popularity.
Chinese EV’s are outstanding, price quality, but not all of them, Xpeng amazing, byd great value for your bucks , +++ but some smaller companies will have problems to compete, and will go bankrupt, but it will boil down to 3-5 top Chinese manufacturers , world wide. Sorry US will lose out big time due to “politics”
I’ve tried some Chinese EV and they are ok however they don’t have a track record so am reluctant to buy one at the moment. And yes I think a BMW is better than any Chinese EV. BMW have alway had a good reputation. Haven’t seen too many bad reviews on any BMW. You can’t gauge long term reliably of a Zeekr by just sitting in it. Maybe in time they will build a reputation and I will reconsider.
What about Volvo and Polestar?😂
I wonder what effect the increase in ev’s has had on air pollution in Chinese cities, as I believe it was quite bad not very long ago.
Y'know what I want? A very LOW TECH electric 4x4. Simple, reliable, no autopilot, tracking or gizmos. I want a workhorse. An electric landrover suitable for the farm. Decent heater, good lights, maybe a heated seat, tow hitch, but otherwise simple and sturdy.
Petrol car only get more and more expensive, electric cars ( specially in China) get cheaper and cheaper for the cost, but not cheap at all. You get a lot for your money.
No Chinese Cars available in the US yet...But they will arrive & bury most American Manufactures.
One understands that the transition from ICE to EV presents governments with a very practical problem: namely, the revenues necessary to maintain and upgrade roads is declining rapidly because much of those revenues come from taxes on gasoline. What to do? :(
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It's game over for legacy automakers. They will try to squeez European customers and keep selling them obsolete and overpriced CEV, but that will not save them. To much arrogance, greed and management inflated ego spells their doom.
This development will discourage potential buyers from buying ICE because 1. If they shut for good , you lost your deposit 2. You won’t be able to service your car or uphold the warranty 3. After a few months buying the car , you find that they have discounted the model and you lost more than you anticipated 4. Trying to sell your 2nd hand to dealers after a few yrs wld be almost impossible to
Too expensive.
Looking back, my greatest fun driving was with my morris minor and my first bubble car.
I dislike smart cars.
The previous cars that I have owned were VW golf’s and I loved them but they are getting too smart now.
The latest one, I could not drive it out of the showroom without the dealer giving me a driving instruction !
The problem with EV opponents is that they don't understand how advanced EV technology is, but it is actually only at the beginning of development. And this is in contrast to legacy car technology, which has been in development for 150 years but basically offers nothing new. For a long time, people laughed about the range of EVs. Now they laugh about FSD. But this technology will come and change everything that has gone before. We are not just talking about how energy is consumed, but how energy will be produced and shared in the future. And I completely agree on one point. You have to test an EV yourself. But if you do that, you will almost certainly never buy a car with a combustion engine again. That is the experience I had.
Crikey I am getting old I thought ICE stood for In Car Entertainment
With the EU and US being unkind to Chinese car makers, the average Chinese have decided to buy local. Their government did not have to say a word about boycotts. The foreign car dealerships are the only one's who have suffered. The Chinese car makers are busy buying up the closing EU factories, to build their cars in Europe. No tariffs can apply to local makers.
IEA also said oil demand is peaking in China due to the rise of EVs.
These initial phases spikes and ripples don’t address large-scale metropolis feasibility issues. It’s just another hype to drive investors before they cash out on the people.
Agree it is like politics most do not have a clue yet post daily
But we can't try them or buy them in the U.S.A. because the federal government has kept them out of the country.
How many new ones opened in the same period ?
Get the best ... Only one problem: Nio, Xpeng never ever made a profit and without new money inflow they will go bust. Bust means residual value going to ZERO. Who wants to take such a risk??? Me not
you tell em lad!
In a ideal world you should have a EV and a ICE car the governments have gone about this all wrong the public don’t like being forced to do anything leave it to the market the best will survive.
I have had an Atto3 This is my first Chinese car and my last.. Software is crap, Battery just suddenly dies, goes from 30% to zero in a blink. Range is a joke, you never know when your range is gone.
How will china deliver all the amps in order to charge all those electric cars?
Legacy brands are still cool, they just moved too much towards the top of the market so no one could afford them. And their cars to cater to everyday people are total shitboxes
Nio will be the king of the Ev’s
Tesla will soon start closing factories in China
Xpeng is the company to go with.
The only customers legacy auto has in the United States are car dealerships whose profits model is based on car repairs and maintenance. Brake jobs, spark plugs, oil changes, exhaust, transmissions, starters, radiators are their money makers. EVs have no routine maintenance or repairs so they don't fit into the dealership profit model. The dealership model is based on ICE cars breaking down and needing expensive repairs. Therefore it is in the dealers interest to promote vehicles needing constant expensive maintenance and repairs. Why would they even want to sell any EVs that need no repairs? .Better to promote fear, uncertainty and doubt and get you to buy that familiar gas guzzler. It is a business model that doesnt make sense.