For all those interested, check out the book "Oriental Jazz Improvisation - Microtonality and Harmony." It explains not only the differences between Turkish and Western music (microtonality in cent values and so on) but also between these two as well as Arabic and Indian music.
Very enlightening and simple video. Really loved it. Kinda disappointed when I realised that the rest of your channel is not like this. Although I can see the Turkish influence in your metal songs, so I guess it's all connected.
Nicely done, nice taqsim! Teşekkürler. 🎶🎵🎵🎶 I love hearing the theory from the Turkish to Western direction, since I came at maqam theory from the other direction, with Turkish at the center & moving out to the Balkans, Persia, Middle East, & some solid study of Indian Rag. ❤
OMG! This is a ultra professional made video! I was like: Is this Turkish Adam Neely or what? I just thinkin Adam is the only one that diving deep as this. Supercool dude! You deserve many more! Dont give up!
Man I like all of your content but this episode has instantly become my favorite. The topic, the analysis, the playing, the editing... enjoyed every second of it ❤️
I’ve recently been to Istanbul and collected some sounds of the environment: streets, cafes and being on ferries. I want to make a lo-fi beat of these elements and that’s why I came across your video, to give it a new eastern element besides just using western scales. Not sure if I will be able to use this yet, but it was very interesting to watch. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video! It was really a 15 miutes of linking lots of things i already knew and adding new information. Really appreciate how clearly you explain such difficult subjects.
This is a very well put together video. Thank you, I learned quite a few new things! :) As a German I've been surrounded by well tempered music my whole life. For my own future compositions I definitely will try to incorporate more tonal "flavours". Keep up the great work with you channel!
Fantastic video! Teşekkur! I'm from Poland. Our folk music also uses scales not seen in the Western/popular music. Odd time signatures are not as popular as in other Slavic countries (mostly Balkan really) but they do occur as well.
I love the demos you played often while talking about some scales and stuff, how you explained the rythm in Turkish March, that 1-2 1-2 1-2 1-2-3 rhythm thingy. And especially how you walkthrough the history things with some cool pics and amazing background music. Tbh that live audio recording thing the back made it a lot better and complicated looking lol. The piece you played with a long one note in the back is amazing :D(idk how to mention that hehe). Your vids are so good,professional and underrated as I said. I would love to see more musical history related stuffs. Btw I'm from India. I'm learning Carnatic music(Known as Indian classical) in an academy and learning western music from my own understanding on videos. Btw I'm so good and keyboard XD. I'm an advanced beginner in acoustic guitar. This is sooooooooo interesting to learn/know about new music styles according to regions like Chinese,Japanese and stuff. You're not bro or dude to me anymore. You're now SIR to me hehe. You was inspired me so much sir(btw dope hair)
thank so much! that long note stuff youre talking about could be called a couple things. drone, or ambient, or simply non-meter. but i like that stuff, and like i said in the video, its pretty common in Turkish music, and im sure it is also common in other eastern music. I really wanna get into Indian music in general. Konnakol stuff is very interesting, but also use of melody in Indian music is very fascinating. I love how fluid it gets while maintaining the emotional side of things. Thanks again, glad you like it!
awesome video!! i really wanted to learn about turkish music cause it seemed very interesting and it truly is!! thanks for explaining this topic so clearly
Harika bir anlatım olmuş👏👏 Metal müziği, Doğu müziği ile harmanlayınca gerçekten harika melodiler çıkıyor ortaya.. Ben de nacizane Türk müziği makamlarını gitara uyarlamayı, riff oluşturmayı seviyorum. .🤘
Cok tesekkurler! Kesinlikle katiliyorum. Oldukca da acik bir kulvar, cok fazla bu tarz isler yapan da yok. Keske daha fazla, ve duzgunce yapan olsa, dunya capinda.
Thank you. This video is very informative. One comment: microtones were used in Wester European music before the invention of the music notation. The 10/11 and even 12 century chant manuscripts are full of microtones which are called liquescents . Unfortunately, when Wester European began to really on music notation instead of memory, the microtones were fewer and fewer.
Really good video to explain the beauty and unique of Turkish music. I kinda wonder, as a tourist and also being a composer , Is there any local bookstore I could buy and learn the traditional Tukic music way ? And how they composing thier music too ?
I honestly dont know if there is one source that has all. But most of those modes have very small differences as far as i know. Thats why they sort of got eliminated through time.
i'm a sociologist and here is my theory: these microtones mostly makes music created plaintative. which i always hated as a turk. i always associated that with arabesque, ferdi tayfur like shyt. you know how he would use microtones with his vocals and that would sound like he is frigging begging and crying? at least when it comes to slow songs that's what happens. and west is always less emotional, they don't like crying shyt so i think that's why they get rid of micro tones. they respect themselves more. they are not frigging one legged, blind and poor farmer bastards from anatolia so they think crying is uncool.
Hi, I enjoyed your lesson on music in relation to Turkey / modern & past. I'm not sure if I came to your channel via a comment made on Ruben Diaz Flamenco. One guitarist Ruben & I respect is John McLaughlin and his work in Shakti is inspirational. He used a Scalloped fretboard, as did I in the 70's. ruclips.net/video/wnUCxfIkD74/видео.html
@@AteshElectric My first album of Paco de Lucia was in 1976 Almoraima and I loved the oud being played in it - and of course Paco himself. But this album drew me to the sounds of Turkey and the east. Then of course, Paco, John and Al di Meola made great music together. I got into John McLaughlin in 74. There are so many good musicians, but I like the inclusion of ''World Music'' ideas.
Well it exists in Turkish system as hüseyni as well. I dont really know about the history of hüseyni specifically but its possible i guess. Its also possible that its ottoman considering how much effort they put in music theory development. Id love to hear more history if you could share.
For all those interested, check out the book "Oriental Jazz Improvisation - Microtonality and Harmony." It explains not only the differences between Turkish and Western music (microtonality in cent values and so on) but also between these two as well as Arabic and Indian music.
Thanks for sharing this! Pinned
Very enlightening and simple video. Really loved it.
Kinda disappointed when I realised that the rest of your channel is not like this.
Although I can see the Turkish influence in your metal songs, so I guess it's all connected.
Hey thanks so much! Yes this one was a bit of an outlier. Id love to do more, but it takes soooo much more time than the other videos.
Dostum bu video gerçekten bir cevher. Türk müziğini yabancı dostlara açıklamakta zorlanıyordum, bu videoyu paylaşmam yeterli olucaktır. Tebrik ederim
Çok teşekkürler, işe yaradıysa ne mutlu 🤗
قليل من الموسيقيين حول العالم من يعرف هذا ، حتى افضل الموسيقيين العرب لا يعلمون عن ماذا تتكلم
تحياتي من الكويت 🫶🏼
Thanks so much!
Nicely done, nice taqsim! Teşekkürler.
🎶🎵🎵🎶
I love hearing the theory from the Turkish to Western direction, since I came at maqam theory from the other direction, with Turkish at the center & moving out to the Balkans, Persia, Middle East, & some solid study of Indian Rag. ❤
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Very interesting! I wanna look into Indian music when i have time
OMG! This is a ultra professional made video! I was like: Is this Turkish Adam Neely or what? I just thinkin Adam is the only one that diving deep as this. Supercool dude! You deserve many more! Dont give up!
Hey thanks so much! Its great to hear that! Love Adam Neely 😃
Amazing video, I'm playing Oud and learning turkish music now. Greetings from Indonesia.
Hey, thats awesome! Thanks for joining in
Man I like all of your content but this episode has instantly become my favorite. The topic, the analysis, the playing, the editing... enjoyed every second of it ❤️
Bro thaanks so much! I think this is my fav so far too! Takes more time to produce but much more fun to be working on. Glad you like it!
I’ve recently been to Istanbul and collected some sounds of the environment: streets, cafes and being on ferries. I want to make a lo-fi beat of these elements and that’s why I came across your video, to give it a new eastern element besides just using western scales. Not sure if I will be able to use this yet, but it was very interesting to watch. Thank you!
Ohhh that sounds veeery interesting! Would love to hear that
And youre welcome, of course 🥳
Yedinci dakikadaki çalışınıza bayıldım vallahi. Elinize dilinize sağlık sevgili Ateş
Çok teşekkürler
Thank you so much for this video! It was really a 15 miutes of linking lots of things i already knew and adding new information. Really appreciate how clearly you explain such difficult subjects.
Hey thanks so much! Glad to help
This is a very well put together video. Thank you, I learned quite a few new things! :) As a German I've been surrounded by well tempered music my whole life. For my own future compositions I definitely will try to incorporate more tonal "flavours". Keep up the great work with you channel!
Glad it helps. Youre very welcome!
Fantastic video! Teşekkur! I'm from Poland. Our folk music also uses scales not seen in the Western/popular music. Odd time signatures are not as popular as in other Slavic countries (mostly Balkan really) but they do occur as well.
Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video!
I love the demos you played often while talking about some scales and stuff, how you explained the rythm in Turkish March, that 1-2 1-2 1-2 1-2-3 rhythm thingy. And especially how you walkthrough the history things with some cool pics and amazing background music. Tbh that live audio recording thing the back made it a lot better and complicated looking lol. The piece you played with a long one note in the back is amazing :D(idk how to mention that hehe). Your vids are so good,professional and underrated as I said. I would love to see more musical history related stuffs. Btw I'm from India. I'm learning Carnatic music(Known as Indian classical) in an academy and learning western music from my own understanding on videos. Btw I'm so good and keyboard XD. I'm an advanced beginner in acoustic guitar. This is sooooooooo interesting to learn/know about new music styles according to regions like Chinese,Japanese and stuff. You're not bro or dude to me anymore. You're now SIR to me hehe. You was inspired me so much sir(btw dope hair)
thank so much! that long note stuff youre talking about could be called a couple things. drone, or ambient, or simply non-meter. but i like that stuff, and like i said in the video, its pretty common in Turkish music, and im sure it is also common in other eastern music.
I really wanna get into Indian music in general. Konnakol stuff is very interesting, but also use of melody in Indian music is very fascinating. I love how fluid it gets while maintaining the emotional side of things.
Thanks again, glad you like it!
@@AteshElectric Ye. Drone. That's the word. I didn't got that word at the time hehe XD
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awesome video!! i really wanted to learn about turkish music cause it seemed very interesting and it truly is!! thanks for explaining this topic so clearly
Thank you! Glad you like it and that it was useful
Wow the slide part ist phantastic!
Thaaank you
Harika bir anlatım olmuş👏👏 Metal müziği, Doğu müziği ile harmanlayınca gerçekten harika melodiler çıkıyor ortaya.. Ben de nacizane Türk müziği makamlarını gitara uyarlamayı, riff oluşturmayı seviyorum. .🤘
Cok tesekkurler! Kesinlikle katiliyorum. Oldukca da acik bir kulvar, cok fazla bu tarz isler yapan da yok. Keske daha fazla, ve duzgunce yapan olsa, dunya capinda.
That was totally great, can't wait to see more videos like this.
Thanks so much!
Tebrikler!
Amazing!!! I was always trying to find an easy approach to eastern music comparing it with western. Great video!!! Thanks for this!!
Hey thanks a lot! Glad you like it!
dostum sesin ne kadar guzel, soylemeden gecemedim
Cok sagol! 🤗
Çok kaliteli video umarım büyürsün 😊
Cok tesekkurler 🤗
Thank you. This video is very informative. One comment: microtones were used in Wester European music before the invention of the music notation. The 10/11 and even 12 century chant manuscripts are full of microtones which are called liquescents . Unfortunately, when Wester European began to really on music notation instead of memory, the microtones were fewer and fewer.
Thank you for this comment! And im glad you enjoyed the video
Really good video to explain the beauty and unique of Turkish music. I kinda wonder, as a tourist and also being a composer , Is there any local bookstore I could buy and learn the traditional Tukic music way ? And how they composing thier music too ?
Great topic, great content! Bravo👌
Thank you sis 😍
Great explanation! Thanks for the video. What is the song that you play at 5'07'' by the way?
Thanks a lot!
It is an original tune of mine. If you search for “Atesh Electric - Djinn’s Story”, you will find it.
Super interesting !
Hey dude...this video was intresting..who knew that microtonality was used in traditional music..
hey thanks so much man! yeah well tempered tuning isnt thaaat old
@@AteshElectric ya but it feels familiar and natural now
Right? Once you understand what and how and why, things become clearer.
@@AteshElectric bro check your gmail...i have replied to you
Keep up the great work! Cheers!
Thanks so much!
great video
Thaaank you!
Thank youuuuuuu for this great video.
Where can I find those 500 Middle Eastern modes?
I honestly dont know if there is one source that has all. But most of those modes have very small differences as far as i know. Thats why they sort of got eliminated through time.
Very educational!
Perfect video bro 🤘
Thanks so much man! 🖤🤘
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What song's tune did you play at the end?
It is from a guest solo i wrote for a shred compilation.
ruclips.net/video/gTIaNu0cbDc/видео.html
some of your guitar riffs can def be used to compose serious tribal house
Wooo i love that! Itd be very sweet if you could pinpoint the riffs so i can actually give it a try
@@AteshElectric 12:20 for example, is begging for a deep kick and bass
@@AteshElectric 13:15 in a house track will make you world famous :)
@@CrusaderGeneral interesting. this is a section from my old band's song. Dirty heretics - black and blue. not sure if thats what youre after though
@@AteshElectric 12:20 and 13:15 are playing in my head in a club in Ibiza. Maybe I can create an example?! :)
i'm a sociologist and here is my theory: these microtones mostly makes music created plaintative. which i always hated as a turk. i always associated that with arabesque, ferdi tayfur like shyt. you know how he would use microtones with his vocals and that would sound like he is frigging begging and crying? at least when it comes to slow songs that's what happens. and west is always less emotional, they don't like crying shyt so i think that's why they get rid of micro tones. they respect themselves more. they are not frigging one legged, blind and poor farmer bastards from anatolia so they think crying is uncool.
What song is played at eight minutes 30 seconds?
Penceresi Yola Karsi (Nikriz Iskeçe Türküsü) - Nomads of the Silk Road
@@AteshElectric çok teşekkür ederim
You got it 🥳
Abi adiyamanlı değilmişim gibi great video awasome topic yazıcam :p
But really great video by the way
hahahahahahhahahha
@@ardacelik5455 thanks a lot! her turlu :D
Turkish music is the best!
like any music out there, there are good ones and bad ones :D
Hi, I enjoyed your lesson on music in relation to Turkey / modern & past. I'm not sure if I came to your channel via a comment made on Ruben Diaz Flamenco. One guitarist Ruben & I respect is John McLaughlin and his work in Shakti is inspirational. He used a Scalloped fretboard, as did I in the 70's. ruclips.net/video/wnUCxfIkD74/видео.html
Thanks so much, im glad you enjoyed this. And its very interesting to hear people are sharing my video!
And yes, John McLaughlin is awesome!
@@AteshElectric My first album of Paco de Lucia was in 1976 Almoraima and I loved the oud being played in it - and of course Paco himself. But this album drew me to the sounds of Turkey and the east. Then of course, Paco, John and Al di Meola made great music together. I got into John McLaughlin in 74. There are so many good musicians, but I like the inclusion of ''World Music'' ideas.
Maqam husseiny is iraqi brother
Well it exists in Turkish system as hüseyni as well. I dont really know about the history of hüseyni specifically but its possible i guess. Its also possible that its ottoman considering how much effort they put in music theory development. Id love to hear more history if you could share.
Btw is that a tv or a monitor?
its a tv :D
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