How Lorde's Pure Heroine Challenged Pop | 10 Years Later Retrospective

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @EljohnMacaranas
    @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +85

    Pure Heroine is 10 years old! WOW! Comment below your favorite track and how Pure Heroine has impacted your life!

  • @JosephZuniga-vt2qo
    @JosephZuniga-vt2qo Год назад +112

    Her minimalism in Pure Heroine is like truth of teenage angst filtered in its purest form.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +4

      I think the emphasis on her voice on this one in contrast to how bombastic Melo sounds is a great metaphor for like how the noise is like the outside world. PH takes place in the suburbs which really isn’t the world for most folks vs Melo being in NYC.

  • @kankuro110
    @kankuro110 Год назад +416

    I know Melodrama is most people’s favorite and likely her strongest record, but there’s just something about Pure Heroine I prefer. Maybe it’s just the nostalgia, but wow what a debut. Can’t believe it’s been 10 years! ❤

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +36

      I get that, the aesthetic and the sound and energy… she never quite came back to it ever again. Damn a decade!

    • @Itsjaviohhh
      @Itsjaviohhh Год назад +6

      I’ve always loved Pure Heroine more tbh

    • @tenzen6899
      @tenzen6899 Год назад +7

      Melodramma was the best Album but Pure Heroine was the Best Era.

    • @dontnoticemesenpai6745
      @dontnoticemesenpai6745 Год назад +5

      I love Melodrama but it never quite had the chokehold that Pure Heroine had on me. I had Pure Heroine practically coursing through my veins as a young teen.

  • @cass.ettetape
    @cass.ettetape Год назад +115

    White Teeth Teens and A World Alone closing the standard edition is wild and flawless and straight up perfection.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +7

      Those two tracks really bring closure to the story started in Love Club and the overall record.

  • @atp8108
    @atp8108 Год назад +150

    Incredibly apt this record about teenage nostalgia we’re all feeling nostalgic for ten years later. Lorde said in her email today: “a lot of stuff isn’t good after ten years. But I am still totally touched by this sweet record. I have deep respect for the vision of the little one making it.” 🖤

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +14

      God her email made me cry haha, she’s so eloquent! Her wordsmithing keeps her a fave of mine for eternity!

    • @atp8108
      @atp8108 Год назад +1

      @@EljohnMacaranas I feel the same way. Even when she’s just typing up an email it’s still written so beautifully.

  • @soijustlistenedto...
    @soijustlistenedto... Год назад +72

    It did not only challenge pop, it changed it. Sometimes I get chills whenever I remember Bowie calling her a future of music because it's so true. Almost every year, a new "Lorde" emerges into the surface of the pop scene, with Olivia Rodrigo as her latest child. I kinda hate that the GP often discredits Lorde for what she did for pop music, just because Solar Power was a divisive album or because she deliberately avoids social media.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +17

      Lorde formed a whole archetype of the prodigy ingenue with dark soulful mature music. Like a specific sort of marketable version of it for sure. A decade from now we’ll keep hearing about “the new Lorde” tbh

    • @soijustlistenedto...
      @soijustlistenedto... Год назад +9

      @@EljohnMacaranas True. Her and Lana became the standard to be honest! We'll just get new Lana or Lorde but we'll always come back to these two!

    • @rmxevbio5889
      @rmxevbio5889 7 месяцев назад

      @@soijustlistenedto... love your statement

  • @alexterieur8813
    @alexterieur8813 Год назад +29

    I just love so much how in this album she was able to portray teenageness with such distance but at the same time while clearly being one and being aware of being one. It’s what her so special: her self awareness that didnt compromise her genuine teenage angst !

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Like when she mad about things it doesn’t feel manufactured to be relatable. I think normal teen angst is filtered through romance rather than like anger at the world and the impending need to find your place so fast and stay there.

  • @visualspark6308
    @visualspark6308 Год назад +32

    A World Alone is a masterpiece and deserves to be talked about more

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      One of the best songs she's ever done! I'd say best closer but I love Perfect Places just a little more.

    • @visualspark6308
      @visualspark6308 Год назад +1

      @@EljohnMacaranas Yeah for sure. Perfect Places is one of her best songs as well.

    • @costcofreezers
      @costcofreezers Год назад +1

      absofuckinglutely

  • @potts995
    @potts995 Год назад +67

    Ribs is my fave on the album too, hauntingly good especially for such a young artist IMO

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +8

      It’s so profoundly tragic yet so sweet! Like the symmetry is genius. 😭

    • @potts995
      @potts995 Год назад +2

      @@EljohnMacaranas It’s the “but that will never be enough” that always gets me. What I get from it is the feeling of nostalgia from reminiscing on the past is like a ghost haunting you that will never be as fulfilling as you want it to be, no matter how fondly you look back. Honestly Ribs and Supercut are probably my faves of hers and I think they share similar themes.

    • @damntydorei
      @damntydorei Год назад +1

      I tattooed RIBS myself when I was 17. 2 years later I moved to Portugal by myself, teached myself ukulele and teached myself ukulele and finally this song. It feels so much to me. Even saw her live once, was about to cry

  • @noneapplicable1327
    @noneapplicable1327 Год назад +54

    oh this record rocked my world, got me through the hell of high school and parts of college, melo is the love of my life but i forgot how good this was

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +10

      Oh Melodrama gets me in a way that so few albums ever will but also… PH really did define so much of my growing up years 😭

  • @omarherasme6699
    @omarherasme6699 Год назад +69

    Dude this album and Haim’s “Days are gone” kept me fed during my high school years. I first discovered “The Love Club” EP and little by little watching Lorde rise and rise; it was something beautiful to see. And I remember people comparing her to Lana and Sky Ferreira at the time, but it’s interesting that at the time she was the one amongst her peers break into the mainstream, even introducing the minimalist pop that others adopted. It really was an amazing album era.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +7

      I think there was an aptitude for marketing and a hungry teen market who wanted to be reflected and seen. Like Lorde became an emblem for the youth in a way Lana and Sky couldn’t at the time. Though to be honest, we were spoiled in Alt Pop girl heaven. God I mourn for Sky in particular all the time. Return her to us, Capitol.

  • @michbenj
    @michbenj Год назад +18

    When i say this album changed my life, i really mean it because i was never the same. I cant believe it has been 10 years

    • @michbenj
      @michbenj Год назад

      "i see the veins of my city like they do in space"
      "living in ruins of a palace within my dreams"
      "god knows we like archaic kinds of fun"
      15 year old me was gagged

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      A literary queen!!!

  • @froxet
    @froxet Год назад +23

    Pure Heroine, alongside its September 2013 cohort, ‘The 1975’ and ‘Days Are Gone’, were my lifeline during high school. It’s so odd to think that it’s been ten years already, but hey the album still slaps. Ella (Lorde) really bared her teenage essence and perspective with ‘Pure Heroine’ and I couldn’t be more grateful.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +2

      OMG The 1975 kept me afloat at the time as did Sky’s Night Time My Time (haha I was that “alt” kid who the AP kids hated and the popular kids would want to smoke with 😭😭😭, now they’re all married or moved to the East coast)

  • @societycrumbles
    @societycrumbles Год назад +17

    One of my all-time favorite albums that I go back to all the time. I think it really resonated with me because I used to be a teenage girl who didn't really fit in and Lorde spoke about that experience so well. I could not identify with her second album, so I never really loved Melodrama, but Pure Heroine is a perfect album to me, and will always be important to me.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      It’s very much the A New Hope to Melo’s Empire and SP’s Return of the Jedi 😭

  • @SebastianSandovalCastro
    @SebastianSandovalCastro Год назад +18

    Can't believe that 10 years flew just like that
    Pure Heroine it's a package of nostalgia sliced in ten pieces of pure gold glory
    I love this album so much and listen to it makes me feel young and important, I don't know how to describe that feeling
    Thank you for doing this video, I really liked it

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      Thank you for watching! 🖤 It’s such a near and dear record to me, just so good!

  • @bluntasiaalize1688
    @bluntasiaalize1688 Год назад +9

    This video hit me right in the feels. No Better is criminally underrated.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Oh my god the first time I heard it, I lost it! I think it was a week or two or maybe the week of Beyonce’s self titled but it was a freebie on iTunes 😭

  • @ThomasWillett1
    @ThomasWillett1 Год назад +31

    It's been 10 years already? I still remember the day this came out. It was one of the few times I immediately replayed an album after the first time. While I get people who hate "Royals," it's the rest of the album that won me over. "400 Lux" has been one of my favorite songs (full-stop) since because it really does feel like driving down a vacant road at night with someone (not to mention the use of ticking clocks is next level). The chorus is chilling in the best ways possible.
    I love a lot of this album for how against the grain it was compared to contemporary pop (I'm a full-on Lana Del Rey stan so your comparison explains some of it). Overall, it's probably my third favorite Lorde album just because "Melodrama" is one of the best albums of the 2010s and I turn on "Solar Power" whenever I need to mellow out (and because that's a lot, it's grown on me as a vibe record). Still, it's the start of one of my favorite music careers of the past decade and look forward to whatever she does whenever she wants.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      I feel like time itself is a weird funny thing. It feels like yesterday but a million miles away. 400 Lux is just such a great track. Like it’s still probably her most romantic grounded track (The Louvre comes so close as does Man with the Axe).
      The Lana comparisons are so real, but she was like cool blue to Lana’s warm maroon. I get seeing this as her weakest record. I think as we gain distance from the wavelength of teenagerhood, we come to appreciate growing up but looking back and realizing “we were actually smart and cool for our age” then.

  • @WaitingForTheHook
    @WaitingForTheHook Год назад +6

    Born To Die by Lana Del Rey changed it, actually. This record was just caught in its stream.

  • @pleasecouldyoubetender
    @pleasecouldyoubetender Год назад +10

    no better just feels soooo australian/nz summer. Idk it just captures that nostalgia so well for me. I need it tattooed. It gives me such a unique feeling

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      It’s such a fun free track! I love it so much! I wish it had been promoted and known more, I have a few friends who’ve just found it just now.

  • @ananyapadala7189
    @ananyapadala7189 Год назад +7

    400 Lux forever has my heart. Great video Elijohn!

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      That track literally makes me melt every time, hearing it live changed my life! Thank you for watching 🖤

  • @costcofreezers
    @costcofreezers Год назад +4

    pure heroine was literally the first album i ever fell in love with

  • @tomcollins3903
    @tomcollins3903 Год назад +11

    My favorite songs on this album are
    •Bravado
    •White teeth teens
    •Glory and Gore
    •Team
    •Tennis Court
    •400 Lux

  • @Astrid_2016
    @Astrid_2016 Год назад +7

    Royals was my favorite song as a kid well before I could fully understand/appreciate it and why it was so good.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +3

      I think the way it sounds just resonates, it’s so distinct that it keeps you then eventually you revisit it and realize how profound it is… 😭 ugh love her

  • @unicorntomboy9736
    @unicorntomboy9736 Год назад +4

    I remember Royals back when i was near the end of my high school days. That song feels so iconic and memorable. I feeo like popular music just isn't as good as it used to be
    Her song truly spoke and resonated with me at the time, and still does now

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      Pop music has sort of lost craftsmanship, we’re very chorus focused these days because we need those viral tiktok choruses. Royals had so many different elements working for it, the verses were clean and meaningful, the breakdown added contrast, even the way the music video felt so fresh despite being mostly footage of someone who wasn’t her.

  • @sunrise2322
    @sunrise2322 Год назад +3

    Pure Heroine set the standard

  • @batuhantamburaci
    @batuhantamburaci Год назад +11

    Calling Blue Neighbourhood as Gay Pure Heroine IM DEAD 😭😭😭

  • @pedroamador1991
    @pedroamador1991 Год назад +9

    I have actually never listened to PH but Melodrama is my favorite album of all times. To this day, I sob during Hard Feeling. Anyway, great video

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Thank you so much! Ugh Melo is still maybe my all-time fave record of all time.

    • @jam444kyu
      @jam444kyu 9 месяцев назад

      sober II is one of the best songs ever

  • @tenzen6899
    @tenzen6899 Год назад +7

    While Ribs is my fav, Glory and Gore is sooo underrated, the song is so cinematic and edgy it feels like a War scene from a movie.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +2

      I think it was done dirty when it was a single in the states, just a radio single without any real push probably bc Lorde was busy 😭

  • @llamadum6363
    @llamadum6363 Год назад +7

    Great vid as always!!! For me when I think of this album, I think of this blog series about this album written by a fan that Lorde said felt like a worthy companion piece. To be honest that was my avenue into Lorde. I read it and started listening to Pure Heroine just in time for the release of Melodrama. I was blown away by how much of an impact the songs, Ella's writing and her presence on each track could have on people. How deeply it seemed to mirror the experiences of so many. How much insight her pen carried with what initially could be seen as throw away lines. While it's not lost on me this sounds kinda like I don't have an opinion on music until after I've watched the needledrop review, I do need a bit of context sometimes to jump start my own exploring. What this album means to me isn't as much as the sophomore followup, it still is an incredible album from an artist that at such a young age was demonstrating songwriting efficiency in world building, personal flare, social commentary and a compelling narrative structure. To dissect all of it is to realise what a meal you are getting with this debut effort and what to expect when you listen to her other albums. Nothing short of mind blowing for me, as a fan and a songwriter. This album is incredible. Fave would have to be Buzzcut season but also want to shout out Swingin Party on the extended version. Love so much!

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      Thank you! Ugh I need to read that blog it sounds so fascinating. I think all you said really does resonate with how I feel about the album. I think at the time of the release, we needed a tonic to the numbness of all the fun if not drunken stupor of ignoring our insecurities. I adore that early 2010s pop era but the repetitive shallow “self empowerment” pop felt so disingenuous and Lorde was one of the few to go “um I’m not fine, I’m bored but also anxious actually and that’s fine” and that felt so real to me. She wasn’t twee or obnoxious about it, she wasn’t screaming “we live in a society”, she just spoke her mind. And that was just so fresh. Ugh Buzzcut Season is a classic I hope she performs at every tour forever and ever. Also Swinging Party is so underrated 😭

  • @themaddiecommittee
    @themaddiecommittee Год назад +6

    her original EP was fundamental to my taste in music and art developing! ❤

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Love Club was such a great teaser like omfg I’m sad they were taken off PH but understand why

  • @todd6689
    @todd6689 3 дня назад

    10 years later still my favorite album

  • @victoriabell6330
    @victoriabell6330 Год назад +4

    Omg I feel actually old now since this album is 10 years 😭 remember listening to this in high school, and will never forget Ultraviolence coming out after and people suspecting Fucked My Way Up To The Top being about her and others lol. What a time!
    Absolutely played White Teeth Teens, 400 Lux, and used to loveeee Glory and Gore but would say nowadays G&G doesn’t hold up for me other than nostalgic. Still play this album to this day - AND remember it being a key album for my friends who weren’t really into pop, but Teams made them actually listen to the whole album.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      Oh the drama of Fucked My Way Up to the Top 😭 like the ATRL forums were insane!
      G&G is a cute track but WTT and 400 Lux def aged so much better. Team was such a perfect little bop and followup to Royals!

    • @victoriabell6330
      @victoriabell6330 Год назад

      No literally 😂 I remember being like but Lorde is too young for this drama? Lmao - and yes totally agree!! ✨

  • @westernless97
    @westernless97 Год назад +5

    thank you for making this

  • @sarahumphreville4088
    @sarahumphreville4088 Год назад +4

    I bought Pure Herione as part of iTunes 8 dollar albums and I would listen to it while walking home from grade seven… kinda wish I played it aloud instead of in my headphones. Because I was with my sissy… can’t believe it’s been 10 years

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Man remember when we used to buy records 😭 I still do for my faves but wow that was just 10 years ago!

  • @chyandyeux
    @chyandyeux Год назад +1

    this album was the soundtrack to my teenage years. melodrama will be my pre-adolescent one (she literally sings "i'm 19 and i'm on fire" on 'perfect places.' i, too, at that time was 19.) but pure heroine is a gem that will never be erased from my lore, my life and the pop and music history. ultimately, lorde always has a special place in my heart forever.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      Awwwwwwww 😭😭😭

    • @chyandyeux
      @chyandyeux Год назад

      and thank you for making this video reminding me how i love this album. you've always been my favorite pop music and culture video creators, Eljohn 💗💓 please never stop making videos 💚💛

  • @bedoubleene3297
    @bedoubleene3297 Год назад +1

    Thank you for reviewing it for the 10th anniversary video.

  • @edcosta7212
    @edcosta7212 Год назад +1

    Lord hit me with Melodrama. Badly. Then I discovered Pure Heroine. This album makes so sense in me, like something I have inside because of my teenager years that I never knew how to handle it.

  • @Edood
    @Edood Год назад +2

    The Gaga shade at 5:13 😭

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +2

      I love Gaga and Joanne lmao it wasn’t shade, that’s just how I talk

  • @eduardoloya7502
    @eduardoloya7502 Год назад +3

    She is art

  • @Sequoya
    @Sequoya Год назад +1

    This album is amazing! The vocal harmonies are perfection. I hear that she sang barber shop, which makes them so unique.
    Awesome video!

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      Lorde said in an interview at the time of the album she hadn’t mastered an instrument yet so her voice had to be that for her and so it was!
      Thank you so much! Not to be corny but seeing you comment makes me so happy! You always add something new to the conversation! I’m so lucky to have to comments I have, it could be so much worse or low brow but I’m happy with my little corner of thoughtful pop stans! 🩵

    • @Sequoya
      @Sequoya Год назад

      @@EljohnMacaranas thank you for your content and you are so very kind! You are very special. I see it in your work, and your voice is so important to pop culture.

  • @tenzen6899
    @tenzen6899 Год назад +3

    I really hope that Lorde's 4th Album combines both Melodramma and Pure Heroine sounds in a Dark Simple yet Sophisticated way.
    It's hard to explain, something like Lana's A&W maybe... And hope that she works with both Jack and Joe on that record.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      I do think the 2 tracks she teased as new music combine all the best elements of her past work even the plus side of SP

    • @tenzen6899
      @tenzen6899 Год назад

      @@EljohnMacaranas she teased 2 tracks where ? When? How can i find them?

  • @joshmomo2917
    @joshmomo2917 Год назад +1

    I remember I was still in third grade I transferred to a new school when this record came out and everybody started wearing crowns and I always felt alone cuz I wasn’t able to wear a crown. When I was 16 I listened to this album in it’s entirety and it really spoke to me in ways other artists can’t. I remember singing Still sane while it was my birthday. Now I’m in a new school starting college it feels so getting scary getting old but I’m glad that It feels so weird and yet also cathartic that this albums milestones happens when I’m also in changing.
    So honoured to have this Album to be my first CD💿

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      It’s insane how this record has carried through your life! Wow!

    • @janellelives5158
      @janellelives5158 Год назад +1

      I was in 5th grade when Pure Heroine was released. I’ve never stopped listening to the album since then!

    • @joshmomo2917
      @joshmomo2917 Год назад

      @@EljohnMacaranas I know right! and this wasn’t even the album that turned into a Lorde Fan it was Solar Power!

  • @brendanforde2631
    @brendanforde2631 Год назад +1

    Love club EP is hands down the most iconic freshman release to date

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      I feel like it definitely set a model for upstarts to try an EP first instead of like an album, that was the old trad model of the past but by the 2000s everyone skipped that step

  • @Dave-vb4nd
    @Dave-vb4nd Год назад +2

    “Fuc*** my way up to the top
    This is my show”
    Go baby GO GO GO GO GO”

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      The shade was insane but I’m glad it’s cordial

  • @danielrhenals1533
    @danielrhenals1533 Год назад +1

    This video made me listen to lorde solar power and get it in a trascendental way because: I’m also from the 96 and looking back at myself i truly experienced Pure Heroin, lived Melodrama and evolved into Solar Power. And it made sense. And it’s truly the voice of the people born in 1996.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Oh hands down she captured that mid 20s wtf am i doing energy so well 😭

  • @adlerpapiernik719
    @adlerpapiernik719 Год назад +2

    Contemporaries in age is so silly I love

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Lmao I learned that phrase from my college professor many years ago and it stuck!

  • @aureen8973
    @aureen8973 Год назад +3

    the blue neighborhood comment being the gay pure heroine is so accurate

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      I love Blue Neighborhood quite a bit but yeah relistening even the instrumentals have this quality to them that feels like an extension

  • @jeppeaksrensen8316
    @jeppeaksrensen8316 Год назад +1

    I randomly shuffled my 900+ song playlist this morning (i know i’m a monster) and three whole Pure Heroine songs made it to my Ear holes which i find beautifully fitting ✨

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      Hahaha I have a 500 song playlist called “the compendium of songs you can’t forget” so I do not blame you haha

  • @lll1312-l4e
    @lll1312-l4e Год назад +1

    Something that I rarely see mentioned is that Tennis Court might reference the French Revolution and the Tennis Court Oath

  • @tyleryyang
    @tyleryyang Год назад +1

    shes so life

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      L4 needs to feel like PH and Melo but for people about to turn 30

  • @PXWantonio
    @PXWantonio Год назад +2

    I think that Pure Heroine stood out because of all the pop music in that time actually. Maybe if she released the album today it wouldn't be a thing. But anyways Lorde is the Lord.

  • @gracielaayala2226
    @gracielaayala2226 Год назад +1

    Cant believe is 10 years ago

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Sometimes you blink and suddenly you and Lorde are both closer to 30 than 20…

  • @sofiamontanez6889
    @sofiamontanez6889 Год назад +10

    She was so freaking influential that until this date I'm so tired of listening to X artist new album and always being like "yikes another one that wants to be Lorde so bad"

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +3

      Me with a lot of the lesser clones of hers that came out, Halsey and Troye are my big exceptions bc they had some other element making them distinct.

  • @thevarietychannelofyoutube4769
    @thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 Год назад +14

    Pure Heroine is a fantastic album, I love it so much. But in my opinion, it kind of ruined pop music for a few years. The trends and sounds it introduced into the mainstream started off good but when they really started to blow up and dominate pop radio in the late 2010s, they became soulless versions of themselves

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +5

      I feel for that, a lot of 2017’s dry pop felt imitative or just outright dull. Lorde ironically had infused Melo with an energy that felt so contradictory and dense, it ironically fell victim to the sounds of the time.

    • @thevarietychannelofyoutube4769
      @thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 Год назад +3

      @@EljohnMacaranas Yes! Thank you! I stand by my opinion that a lot of the songs that use the trends Lorde introduced into the mainstream that were released before 2017 were actually good but these sounds really became as soulless as possible. At least Billie Eilish understood how to do it right

    • @thevarietychannelofyoutube4769
      @thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 Год назад +1

      @@EljohnMacaranas Also, 2017 was such a terrible year for music that Chillin Like A Villain, a kids song from a Disney TV movie, was one of the catchiest, best produced and most fun pop songs to chart in that entire year

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +2

      Let us never forget Kiaara’s Gold which ended up inspiring Selena and creating a neverending loop of songs like it 😭

    • @thevarietychannelofyoutube4769
      @thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 Год назад

      @@EljohnMacaranas I don't know, I think Kiiaras Gold was ok. I wouldn't call it good but I thought it was decent.

  • @UnicornsForSale
    @UnicornsForSale Год назад +1

    Gonna relisten to this now!

  • @Meishaa2023
    @Meishaa2023 Год назад +2

    Although this is one of my favorite albums, I can’t wait until she releases some new music each and every time that she does I’m super excited I believe that she will bring us another album like Pure Heroine or melodrama 14:37

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      I think SP was an exercise in reseting expectations, I’d hate to live in a way where I’d have to top perfection every time tbh so SP bears that whole trough between the highs (it wasn’t THAT bad)

  • @karacoconutag
    @karacoconutag Год назад +5

    This was one of the last 2 CDs I brought before jumping on the streaming bandwagon, so I spent tons of time with it. She and I are only a week apart in age too, so the album spoke to me on another level as well! Ugh I love it SM to this day.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Lorde is one of the few artists who I still buy records for haha (physicals like vinyls ofc), SP not having CDs and likely her never doing a CD again put me onto that format 😭

  • @beebeedeeie
    @beebeedeeie Год назад +1

    one of my favourites

  • @paulomascarenhas739
    @paulomascarenhas739 Год назад +1

    Excellent video as always. Would you consider doing a retrospective on Sky Ferreira's "Night Time, My Time", which is about to turn 10 as well?

  • @JoCalderone1
    @JoCalderone1 Год назад +2

    The fact that the opening line is don't you hate it how people talk and the closing one is let em talk JESUS

  • @laincoubert7236
    @laincoubert7236 Год назад +5

    didn't lana just recently sue lorde for plagiarism? i was surprised she thanked her on the shirt 😭😭
    pure heroine is its own special thing for me cause i'm moved by such "coming of age" narratives in music and cinema (i didn't have great teen years of my own). 400 lux, ribs, and buzzcut season scream nostalgia to me and provide that escapism that only lana ever managed to achieve for my listening experience... that's why i'm not necessarily set on melodrama being lorde's best record.
    i feel like you could've touched on bravado (from the ep), it's an underrated gem. but otherwise, your retrospective is so on point and perfectly describes the album!!

    • @rodrigomedeiros1234
      @rodrigomedeiros1234 Год назад +4

      no one sued anyone.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +1

      I do not believe the suit ever happened, if it did, believe me we’d know (probably settled out of court)
      Omg yes! It’s so cinematic like a movie! Melo’s a v situational record, I think part of why it hit so hard for me was me having my first proper real break up around the release.
      Thank you! 🖤

  • @kazimirfeanom
    @kazimirfeanom Год назад +1

    Lorde was really ahead of her time

  • @IsSarahPi
    @IsSarahPi Год назад +2

    400 Lux is my favourite Lorde song of all time despite PH probably being my least favourite of her albums overall (I still really enjoy it).

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Oh that song is so beautiful, when I heard it live at the Melo tour, it really made me tear up a bit.

  • @daphnamelnick5971
    @daphnamelnick5971 Год назад +2

    Pure heroine is her best

  • @IkeReviews
    @IkeReviews 5 месяцев назад +1

    Also taylor swift listened to pure heroine before she made 1989

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  5 месяцев назад

      I def think to a degree the cohesiveness of PH def influenced her to ensure the album felt coherent.

  • @zzulm
    @zzulm Год назад

    🎶 I want them back🎶
    🎶 I want them back🎶
    🎶what once we had🎶

  • @LadiesandgentlemenfooFIGHTERS
    @LadiesandgentlemenfooFIGHTERS 5 месяцев назад +1

    I just wanna say I got h*gh watching this video and decided to listen to the album in between your takes on the record and it was an awesome experience your analysis and descriptions are spot on cheers

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much (and lmao I recorded the Solar Power one high so like I get it)

  • @welcometodmitrysworld
    @welcometodmitrysworld Год назад +3

    It’s not like this album was heavily inspired by Lana

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +2

      The whole record might not outwardly draw from Lana but there’s intersection in some lines feeling like responses to questions and ideas Lana’s BTD had. A very early interview from Lorde has her joke she was the Anti-Lana Del Rey which in a way going out of your way to like not be like someone is inspiration in a different font.

  • @hamletvillilo5604
    @hamletvillilo5604 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow i feel so much nostalgia when people talk about the early and mid 10's in music, it was the time when i was obsessed with all the songs that were popular at the time.
    That ended in 2016, i didn't like the late 10's in music

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  9 месяцев назад

      I think the late 2010’s were a recalibration where everyone was trying to either be meta about pop or just reject it for some alt slushie nonsense

    • @hamletvillilo5604
      @hamletvillilo5604 9 месяцев назад

      @@EljohnMacaranas agree 👍🏽👍

  • @RJ-ek8zu
    @RJ-ek8zu Год назад

    Pure Heroine on top

  • @Kenzi24
    @Kenzi24 Год назад

    Amazing album but you really have to thank her producer just as equally as her. That's truly what made the album and "changed" the industry

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Joel Little was pretty solid back then, his work as of the late not so much

  • @vvvinblue5557
    @vvvinblue5557 Год назад +1

    Blue Neighbourhood as gay Pure Heroine is so true

  • @luizvasconcelos9398
    @luizvasconcelos9398 Год назад +1

    Hate how grammy robbed ella's best new artist

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Literally she was robbed by Bruno for AOTY in 2017, Bruno deserved a AOTY but not for that album though!

  • @nikhilsonavane8939
    @nikhilsonavane8939 Год назад +3

    i remember listening to buzzcut season for the first time and nothing was ever the same. ah! such fond memories. maybe this is an unpopular opinion- for me pure heroine is slightly better than melodrama. idk it also might coz of the nostalgia it brings me now. pure heroine is just a masterpiece.

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Honestly, I think PH and Melo are v close in quality, the key difference between them and say Solar Power or even other competing albums is their sole focus on a subject matter. For PH, it’s teenage suburban paradise ending and for Melo, it’s getting past a first real heartbreak. Melo hit very hard for me because I’d had a proper first break up at the time of its release.

  • @summerchild_
    @summerchild_ Год назад +4

    "A gay Pure Heroine" im drying

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад

      Did I lie?! Still adore BN, like I had a friend come out and realize he was gay bc of the record (me on the other hand I was already queening out to Gaga in the mid aughts)

    • @summerchild_
      @summerchild_ Год назад

      @EljohnMacaranas I feel like BN is more mainstream pop - butttt of course baby lesbian me was crying in her room over Heaven.

  • @Elena-ce8ek
    @Elena-ce8ek 7 месяцев назад +1

    Lorde walked so Halsey and Billie Eilish could run 🤗

  • @kameronking4321
    @kameronking4321 Год назад +1

    Today is my birthday🎉🎉

  • @Jeffbuckleygrace
    @Jeffbuckleygrace Год назад

    I like this album but it’s not the domino that started the effect

  • @paduanicoc.7019
    @paduanicoc.7019 Год назад +1

    PH change the pop landscape

  • @Kevin-rg3yc
    @Kevin-rg3yc Год назад +2

    Damn I can’t believe it’s been a whole decade since this drop it’s official I’m entering retirement home next year 😂😂 I actually got into lorde bc I was into think-piece culture on the internet at the time and there was a big discourse/controversy that started about royals having racist undertones bc of its lyrics referencing black American hip hop culture being used as a critique on consumerism, wealth consumption, social class inequality etc and then both my older brother and twin sister were obsessed with her so I came into lorde with low key negative thoughts, then I finally listened to royals and pure heroine and I loved it, despite being a inner city NYC black teenager I did relate to the lyrics on classism, and having contemporary pop culture be the center piece to us gen z teenagers although I do think the negative hip hop racist undertones and lorde working class cosplay haven’t outright age well I still love the album and I still believe the record was needed for pop music for the time, both lorde and Lana coming in to switch things up was needed for the time

    • @EljohnMacaranas
      @EljohnMacaranas  Год назад +2

      Oh I hadn’t realized the undertones were bad. I found one of the pieces about it just after seeing the comment and damn… points were made.
      Tbh I think a lot of early 2010s stuff like Lana’s Born to Die aesthetic cribbing “hood culture” or her “gangster nancy sinatra” comments or Katy Perry’s Geisha disaster at the AMAs (most obviously Miley’s Bangerz phase) spoke to this weird Post-Obama “racism is over” attitude and naiveté that was shattered towards the end of the decade.

    • @laincoubert7236
      @laincoubert7236 Год назад

      where can i read more about this discourse?

    • @Kevin-rg3yc
      @Kevin-rg3yc Год назад

      @@EljohnMacaranasright it’s understandable why that ideology was going on at the time it did feel like we were in a era where racism felt like a thing in the past and how much so many POC cultures were globalized and commodified in that time but I think people were mistaking racism as a whole with the specific racism of that part being over bc the 2000s and early 2010s only brought in new kinds of racism

  • @lanaxbillie614
    @lanaxbillie614 3 месяца назад

    I'm sorry but like Born To Die created Lorde. Lana changed pop music forever as proven by Taylor Swift and many more artists like Billie Eilish.

    • @nachoj3150
      @nachoj3150 3 месяца назад

      ​@@lanaxbillie614 I mean, you are a Lana fan, of course you're not going to be objective and recognize how Lorde changed pop and the influence she had in actual alternative pop

  • @JuanErazo-g3s
    @JuanErazo-g3s Год назад

    Before Lorde there was lana sorry

  • @Belbecat
    @Belbecat Год назад +2

    My favourite track is Bravado, you never mention it though 🥲