A couple of advanced tips from a former Talon one trick: -The W-Q-AA + Ignite combo does around 400-500 damage at level 2, including Electrocute. -Your W will always return to your position, so you can redirect it with Flash, Q, E or simply moving around. This is most useful in lane or when diving without your R as you can throw your W behind them and then Q the enemy right before the blades return for guaranteed Passive stacks. -You can use your R while in your E animation and remain invisible. This is useful to know for the No Rake combo. -To reach fleeing enemies, you can do R-Q-W-AA. W absolutely MUST be used AFTER using Q because the blades from your R won't go to your enemy if you use W first. This combo can also be used with your E while jumping over a wall, ER-Q-W-AA. -In order to correctly utilise the R-Q-AA combo, you need to wait a bit before using Q because the blades won't contract immediately, your Q must ba cast from almost max range as well, otherwise you need to wait before using AA. You can see that happening in the W-Q-R-AA combo as well, widely known in the Talon community as the Flower combo. -In most melee matchups, you can put 3 points into your W and then max Q for better damage. One of the exceptions will be Zed, as he can easily farm from range and will rarely get close enough for you to get that melee Q in.
@@mouu9792 I do have hobbies, maybe even too many, but most of them are cancelled due to the current situation. So it's not that I don't do anything besides playing League, it's just me trying to give some more advanced tips to go along with the guide.
This man is the reason I can play Talon so well. He taught me all I needed to know. I know his kit and how all of his abilities intertwine now. And how to activate the passive effectively. I know how to play Talon at a spiritual level. And for that I thank you.
I used to have Warwick as main,but the last plays didnt go well for me.My mate always had to rescue the game.Now i try to make Talon my main because the Traning ganes went well,and im sure this guide helpee a lot vy the descision!Thank you
I was hoping to see some advice on when to use your E out of combat. I felt that there were times where you used the E to get to lanes faster where the wall you blocked off would of been useful in a chase.
I find Talon a lot weaker with lethality build than previous season. You can't buy tiamat on first back anymore because it doesn't clear the back wave after one W. You have to go on melee range and auto it twice which makes you attackable by an enemy. Instead of tiamat you have to go for Ironspike Whip which does the job. But it also means that you need to buy a goredrinker as a first item to catch up with other mythic items. Goredrinker build is better for that specific reason. It is safe and when you get conqueror and tenacity you are unkillable when you get hydra (3rd item).
Hello, I really find your videos good they help me so much to understand both game and the heros with their items and runes thanks. I am waiting for A.Sol, Mordekaiser and Senna
I love your videos and whenever I want to play a new champ, I always go to your channel first. I was wondering if you could do a s11 tf, since you seem to be doing more mid lane and last time you did tf the enemy team surrendered early I think. :D
Hey, yeah long sword + refillable or 3 pots is the most popular start as it allows you to get your items faster. I just went with doran’s sword here because I was in a really bad match up, so I wanted the extra HP and lifesteal :)
When would you recommend to go conqueror over electrocute? I feel like on talon electrocute is almost always better because the whole point is to spam your abilities and get out so I don't understand why conq would be used. Keep up the great guides!
Yeah electrocute is the best for talon. Sometimes you will be against tankier champions that you can't really oneshot(Galio, bruisers etc). Conqueror is better against them because of the sustained DPS since you will often be in a extended fight :)
Talon was always destroying me in mid, so I thought to try him. Yes, he is extremely strong early, but In late game, if you don't know what you are doing you are trash. I was playing vs a main Lee Sin in mid, I was like 200cs and he was 80 (I was totally freezing him he couldn't do anything) then he got 6 kills from my teammates and destroyed us. I couldn't even touch him with 4x more cs than him, I didn't know what I was doing...
If you use conqueror as your keystone then it's fine, otherwise I would use ultimate or relentless hunter because the healing from ravenous hunter is nerfed
It's had a better win rate lately, so I'm gonna pick it up. 51.X% vs almost 54%, pretty significant, I guess as it gives you a bit better lane sustain with the health and omnivamp so early trades are easier.
You do NOT want to max W, beacause u leave the caster at 1hp all the time. You want 2-3 points in W and rest in Q depends on matchup. Melee matchup or a Ranged matchup that can dodge easily = 2 points in W. Ranged matchup = 3 points in W.
Me including all the other high elo players are maxing W on talon majority of the games. It's not only for wavelear, it's also your ranged damage for trades :)
Thanks! He's not a good pick in the bottom lane because he just gets poked too much and zoned away by 2 champions. In bot lane you also share the exp with the support so you will be pretty far behind compared to jgl/mid/top laners. His best role is mid lane but he can work jgl and top as well but not that good at adc
no, talon needs farm. you can have an wave advantage by poking the enemy with your W. especially on champs likeZed and Annies. what u just said about farm is very stupid dude. i told u the advantage with the wave cuz there are lots more advantages if you farm ofc but thats one of them
LOL i'm a master+ player and I know all of the best talon players on the different servers and they all say the exact same thing as me, talon is not a farm champ, it's a roam champ. It's the reason all of the highest ranked talon players have low farm numbers and why he’s strong in solo queue.. BECAUSE of his roaming, you don’t sit and afk farm mid. Have fun in your silver elo games!
A couple of advanced tips from a former Talon one trick:
-The W-Q-AA + Ignite combo does around 400-500 damage at level 2, including Electrocute.
-Your W will always return to your position, so you can redirect it with Flash, Q, E or simply moving around. This is most useful in lane or when diving without your R as you can throw your W behind them and then Q the enemy right before the blades return for guaranteed Passive stacks.
-You can use your R while in your E animation and remain invisible. This is useful to know for the No Rake combo.
-To reach fleeing enemies, you can do R-Q-W-AA. W absolutely MUST be used AFTER using Q because the blades from your R won't go to your enemy if you use W first. This combo can also be used with your E while jumping over a wall, ER-Q-W-AA.
-In order to correctly utilise the R-Q-AA combo, you need to wait a bit before using Q because the blades won't contract immediately, your Q must ba cast from almost max range as well, otherwise you need to wait before using AA. You can see that happening in the W-Q-R-AA combo as well, widely known in the Talon community as the Flower combo.
-In most melee matchups, you can put 3 points into your W and then max Q for better damage. One of the exceptions will be Zed, as he can easily farm from range and will rarely get close enough for you to get that melee Q in.
I hope this won't get buried under the avalanche of comments as these tips are crucial in order to elevate your Talon gameplay to the next level.
The moment when you don't have enough hobbies and therefore write this comment xD
@@mouu9792 I do have hobbies, maybe even too many, but most of them are cancelled due to the current situation. So it's not that I don't do anything besides playing League, it's just me trying to give some more advanced tips to go along with the guide.
thanks man this helps a lot
@José Jesús Moreno Góngora You're welcome.
This man is the reason I can play Talon so well. He taught me all I needed to know. I know his kit and how all of his abilities intertwine now. And how to activate the passive effectively. I know how to play Talon at a spiritual level. And for that I thank you.
Glad to help!:)
I just wanted this, Ive been getting into mid lane and i wanted a talon guide for this season. Thank you!
Glad to help :D
Thank you for taking the time to explain everything in simple terms through out the whole game!
Bruh your pfp made me think there's a hair on screen 😂😂😂😂
I used to have Warwick as main,but the last plays didnt go well for me.My mate always had to rescue the game.Now i try to make Talon my main because the Traning ganes went well,and im sure this guide helpee a lot vy the descision!Thank you
I was hoping to see some advice on when to use your E out of combat. I felt that there were times where you used the E to get to lanes faster where the wall you blocked off would of been useful in a chase.
This is an amazing guide, also it's really fun to watch you play. You have a very nice relaxing voice 10/10 video lol
I find Talon a lot weaker with lethality build than previous season. You can't buy tiamat on first back anymore because it doesn't clear the back wave after one W. You have to go on melee range and auto it twice which makes you attackable by an enemy. Instead of tiamat you have to go for Ironspike Whip which does the job. But it also means that you need to buy a goredrinker as a first item to catch up with other mythic items. Goredrinker build is better for that specific reason. It is safe and when you get conqueror and tenacity you are unkillable when you get hydra (3rd item).
Hello, I really find your videos good they help me so much to understand both game and the heros with their items and runes thanks. I am waiting for A.Sol, Mordekaiser and Senna
Happy to help! I'll get to them eventually :)
Amazing, one of the best guides ive never seen
Thank you! 🙏
I love your videos and whenever I want to play a new champ, I always go to your channel first. I was wondering if you could do a s11 tf, since you seem to be doing more mid lane and last time you did tf the enemy team surrendered early I think. :D
Glad to hear my guides are helping you out! I can do twisted fate sure :D
Thank you!
I’ve seen in a few guide that you should start sword and refillable instead of dorans blade. What’s your view on this?
Hey, yeah long sword + refillable or 3 pots is the most popular start as it allows you to get your items faster. I just went with doran’s sword here because I was in a really bad match up, so I wanted the extra HP and lifesteal :)
When would you recommend to go conqueror over electrocute? I feel like on talon electrocute is almost always better because the whole point is to spam your abilities and get out so I don't understand why conq would be used. Keep up the great guides!
U use conq against tanky comps
Like full bruiser teams
It'll be useful but u have to build black cleaver and death's dance and u're all good
It's also a scaling build
Yeah electrocute is the best for talon. Sometimes you will be against tankier champions that you can't really oneshot(Galio, bruisers etc). Conqueror is better against them because of the sustained DPS since you will often be in a extended fight :)
Conquer allows you to be a pretty decent team fighter. Especially with steraks. You will at least chunk everyone to half and kill 1 or 2.
yesssssss thank you so much for the guide!
this is literally so detailed :D
I used to max w but i kept missing or throwing it too early so i started maxing q so that i dont miss.. Its quite helpful but depends on what you want
A channel worth subscribing. Thanks for the guide
Yoo man thx for all the vids you really helped me with Aatrox and Sett
Glad to hear that :D
Does goredrinker works on tallon? Also one time i was playing tallon jungle and it was rly easy to gank at lvl 3
Ayyy,guide for my lovely main,naisuu. Thx dude and gl!
Happy to help!
Talon was always destroying me in mid, so I thought to try him. Yes, he is extremely strong early, but In late game, if you don't know what you are doing you are trash.
I was playing vs a main Lee Sin in mid, I was like 200cs and he was 80 (I was totally freezing him he couldn't do anything) then he got 6 kills from my teammates and destroyed us. I couldn't even touch him with 4x more cs than him, I didn't know what I was doing...
I just started playin talon and this really helped me out
Do you have any advice on Conqueror Talon? I heard thats pretty strong as well
Will you be playing Ornn anytime soon? Love the season 11 guides so far ε>
Ty! When I get to top lane guide week I can do ornn! I remember this request from last season so don't worry :)
That's a very funky-looking backwards 3.
@@ImPhen0n the only reason I added the greek alphabet... οωο
love the video but i prefer scorch because it synergizes perfect with the passive
Yes you can use that too!
Can you bruiser Talon and see which is better? Because I can't tell. Should i build based on my team?
Goredrinker talon is good right now but it's getting nerfed so it won't be good anymore after next patch
Ready to play him support thanks
Talon Guide :) Love ur guides. Also, can U plz do Ahri guide?
Sure thing :)
Thanks a lot !!! I really need this
Glad to help ! :D Have fun with talon, he's really strong right now!
thank u so much can we get a kassadin ?
Sure thing, kassa is actually coming up soon :)
I like to take taste of blood and ravenous hunter on talon when I’m fighting a hard match up is that good?
If you use conqueror as your keystone then it's fine, otherwise I would use ultimate or relentless hunter because the healing from ravenous hunter is nerfed
I tried out talon yesterday and now i see what i did wrong all the time lmao
10th, also thank you for talon guide. i really missed one shoting with him.
Time to one shot with him again :) !
This might just be me being dumb but how did you make your window so wide I feel like free cam on my laptop isnt big enough to do unlock cam
I haven't done anything to the window but i've made the HUD bar and minimap smaller, maybe that's what you mean?
Love the guides! Can you do yasuo season 11?
Sure thing!:)
ew... can you even boil water??? lol jk jk
i have a question.
why did you start with doran's blade?
It's had a better win rate lately, so I'm gonna pick it up. 51.X% vs almost 54%, pretty significant, I guess as it gives you a bit better lane sustain with the health and omnivamp so early trades are easier.
can u make a lux mid guide pls?
I gotta ask, can you do one for gnar, it has been a long time since I saw a good guide for the little guy
Sure friend! I'll do him during the top lane week :)
@@Yeagerlol Nice! Thank you a lot bro
love ur videos keep it up
You do NOT want to max W, beacause u leave the caster at 1hp all the time. You want 2-3 points in W and rest in Q depends on matchup. Melee matchup or a Ranged matchup that can dodge easily = 2 points in W. Ranged matchup = 3 points in W.
Me including all the other high elo players are maxing W on talon majority of the games. It's not only for wavelear, it's also your ranged damage for trades :)
could you tell me which runes you said are viable?
Hi, are you asking for the full runepages?
@@Yeagerlol it doesn't necessarily have to be complete runes pages but as I don't understand much about lol I don't understand runes etc ...
can you show me a best lethality garen build and best lethality runes for garen in season 11
A what build now?
I never knew my deepest fears until now.
Minimal protip for new players on talon, better than maxing W is maxing Q bcuse thats dont eat that much mana and do more damage in fighting on lane
If you're fighting a melee champ like katarina, yeah. If you're fighting a far ranged champ with cc though, maxing ur W first is pretty good.
Love ur vids
Ok I’m pretty new but does talon play jungle at all or is that an inefficient strategy?
It can work but it’s not very good. His best lane is mid :)
@@Yeagerlol got it! Thanks!!
Les't go another video thanks
Legit the ekko was playing nuts.
Can you make an updated guide please :)
i'm new to league what does aa stand for?
aa = auto attack
good job bro
thank u so much, name the background musics pls
I'll have them added soon. The songs are all from riots champion login screens :)
Is this build still good?
Yes it's still used but I have a new talon video coming up early next week, probably monday-tuesday :)
@@Yeagerlol oh, thanks
can we have season 11 graves guide ?
Yeah I'll update all my guides including graves! Going through mid lane right now though. When I get to jungle, i'll make sure to do graves :)
@@Yeagerlol alright bro, you're the best
Great vid, can i play talon in bot?
Thanks! He's not a good pick in the bottom lane because he just gets poked too much and zoned away by 2 champions. In bot lane you also share the exp with the support so you will be pretty far behind compared to jgl/mid/top laners. His best role is mid lane but he can work jgl and top as well but not that good at adc
if ur support lands roots u can actually deal a lot of damage and maybe even win bot, but it's very very difficult
shouldnt u do q max instead of w for more damage
Q max isn't good. You have no waveclear at all so you won't be able to push waves and roam :)
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Ayy :D
@@Yeagerlol what's ur fav champ to play ?
@@madjidradji Right now Ekko and Yone :)
W Q AA is almost always better than Q W AA since if you use Q right before the blades from W return you guarantee the second hit
Not at all, both combos are good and they are used in different situations.
@@Yeagerlol could you elaborate a bit more? Tryna learn the ins and outs of Talon
Camille guide next? :D
Camille is up in the top lane guide week :D
damn against annie too im only m4 on talon but annie is one of the harder matchups imo
Yeah she's very annoying to play against as talon!
Sion next please. I wanna learn how to crush Morde players on top.
When I get to top lane guides, sure! :)
@@Yeagerlol Thanks! I'm new to League and I'm focusing on the top lane and I need all the help I can get.
i used to use first w+q+r+aa
u can do that in teamfights. Make sure to use your movementspeed while being in the ult so u hit everyone with it.
@@arhombus8485 t.y. man,i will try
after the roaming tips, I got 10/0 my last game after the vid lmao
Lvl 3 i skill W when i think i can kill the enemy
wow i legit just started playing talon like 1 hour ago perfect timing
Awesome, have fun :D
Pls pls pls can you do jhin pls pls i love your clips but please make guide on jhin seson 11 or if not jhin pyke pls pls
Doing mid lane guides currently. When I get to ADC guides I will definitely have one for Jhin
@@Yeagerlol Thank you sooo much! You are the best! I am waiting for ADC!
I love how he saw mobile
wow I am early this time
You are indeed!
no, talon needs farm. you can have an wave advantage by poking the enemy with your W. especially on champs likeZed and Annies. what u just said about farm is very stupid dude. i told u the advantage with the wave cuz there are lots more advantages if you farm ofc but thats one of them
LOL i'm a master+ player and I know all of the best talon players on the different servers and they all say the exact same thing as me, talon is not a farm champ, it's a roam champ. It's the reason all of the highest ranked talon players have low farm numbers and why he’s strong in solo queue.. BECAUSE of his roaming, you don’t sit and afk farm mid. Have fun in your silver elo games!
I was 14 h too late :(
:(
You do many mistakes and play like a high gold, what is your elo ??
Lol nice iron analysis. There’s a reason i’m high elo and you’re not;)
@@Yeagerlol why so salty? you still didnt answer the question.
Anything to hide!? IF you are high elo, just say it
sup
He started a D blade 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You start long sword + refillable most of the time but when you play against something like annie, then it’s actually pretty good!
no
ml copy this hero