This isn't something where suddenly Joni is entangled and being manipulated into. The woman wanted that man, period, and it looks like Joni gets what she wants, no matter who gets hurt in the process.
That is simply evil: Joni knew Doug and Lisa, was well aware that Lisa didn’t want to lose her husband, and callously pursued him anyway knowing the fame, power, prestige, and vast wealth she could offer would be almost impossible for him to turn down. Suzy said Lisa begged Doug not to leave her. Doug even had been her & Marcus’ marital counselor. It’s wrong on every single level, and they are in an adulterous marriage. Joni didn’t;t hesitate throwing her own son under the bus instead of admit her sin.
@@guadalupeeg5034 I believe a ‘spirit of lust! from her father us on her. When Suzy asked her if she was willing to give up Daystar and her family for Doug Weiss, she answered “yes!” It is almost beyond comprehension what Joni has turned into as a result of marrying Doug! Deception reigns unashamedly in her life!! So sad! God have mercy; Holy Spirit conviction her heart to repent!! 🙏📖🕊️
By what mechanism can Daystar be shut down as long as gullible donors keep writing checks? I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect all this will be swept under the rug and Daystar will continue business as usual.
@@richardgray8593 well since it really is NOT a church or a ministry....(.its simply a tv network that rents space to prosperity pastors) the IRS should start investigating their tax free status. That would shut this mess down quick.
@@jaygirlization I don't know why some judge does not step in and tell them that they don't get to claim legal status as a church. Hey IRS, we _identify_ as a church, so there.
@@jaygirlizationfor quite a long time I keep getting in my spirit that the IRS is going to do just that. The charade is over in professing Christians using laws to make big money and being dishonest about it . God is dealing with this huge sin in the Body of Christ right now, the fear of the Lord is zero in the Church ! Jesus is coming soon for a spotless Bride. Cleanse the Church Lord, I pray!!!
Amen to that, give platform's to snakes 🐍 and vipers. Marcus Lamb had an affair that lasted a few years. Jimmy Evans is one of the VIPERS!!!! NO ADULTERY!!!!! in the Weiss marriage, until the SEX THERAPIST was driven by his FLESH, and Jimmy Evans added FUEL TO THE FIRE 🔥 between Doug and Joni! Thank God Johnathan and his family 👪 🙏" have jumped ship!! The TITANIC IS SINKING, FLOODED WITH " SIN"
We like to blame people's behavior on a "spirit". Joni is a grown woman professing to be a Christian who is filled with the Holy Spirit. She made these decisions on her own. No spirit needed. Perhaps people need an excuse for Joni, but I think we are actually just seeing who Joni is. None of us know her. We only see the Joni that is presented on Daystar. No need to ask "Will the real Joni please stand up?", because she already has.
Excellent comment! This “spirit of this or that” is blamed for a lot of things that used to simply be called SIN. We all must “own” it, confess it, and turn away from our sin.
So true. I have to say I'd always liked Jimmy Evans in the past, but I started to get lukewarm on Jimmy when I heard the "verbal gymnastics" he went through trying to justify Doug's divorce, that he was a victim, and Joni's marriage to "Dr." Doug. Listening to Jimmy spouting nonsense about Lisa Weiss in order to require the rest of Daystar to accept this marriage was a huge red flag. Nothing he was saying was Biblical, but he just kept insisting. Then when I heard him on those tapes with Jonathan and Joni, I was shocked. He sounded more like a thug. He must be the "enforcer" for the family to keep them in line. The way he bullied and tried to intimidate Jonathan and Suzy was astonishing.
@@valeriegreen531 I agree. I had always liked Jimmy Evans until I listened to that recording. If I were Jonathan I would have been screaming at him. " *You're not my boss! Get out of this room!* ".
This isn’t her Grandma. It’s her good family friend n mentor/therapist. It’s a REAL letter on Roy’s report and the real reason Suzy and Jonathan stood against this marriage!!!
Now the truth is coming out…Jimmy Evens used to work for Robert Morris but got fired for undisclosed reasons. What chances are there that Doug Weiss knew what those reasons were and black mailed Jimmy Evan’s to go along with the marriage to Joni?
It’s sadly possible, with all the revelations of wrongdoing by this crowd coming out. I’ve been so shocked by Evans because he was always strictly by the Bible in everything I’d heard him say before.
Pretty good I’d say. It’s already been revealed that a whole bunch of them have dirt on each other so favours get cashed in every so often. This is the Christian form of the Diddy saga. Both are running simultaneous to each other and even cross over back and forth.
Those who attended the wedding of Doug and Joni were also deceived especially Pastors. Joni ' s friends are her worst enemies. Doug will face the wrath of God and Joshua Brown 🟤🟤🟤
Let’s stand on scripture…. IF they are born of the Spirit into the Body of Christ, they’re justified by Christ’s blood and will not “face the wrath of God”. Whether they are actually saved or not, I have no idea.
Sorry but no, they had NOT set such a high standard before. They let every money grabbing, Simon the Magician, on their network that it was revolting and evident to any Spirit filled believer. The Lord has given them plenty of time to repent and turn their network to Christ and yet they continued. They’ve sowed and now they’re reaping.
You are so right. They gave been deceivers from the beginning. The lulled people into their way of thinking for years. God is pulling back the cover of deception on individuals and false ministries here in the end times.
Did Marcus open up his family to the spirit of deception after having an affair with another woman for approximately 7 years? The women involved wanted restitution in how they were treated at their jobs. It was dismissed as trying to fleece Daystar while the men were not held accountable. Both went on news shows and Dr. Phil I believe , saying they were just want money for the affairs when he was about how they were treated on the job. They deserved to be heard and restitution when they left Daystar. These women were swept under the rug and the men were not fired, thus the women were treated unequally and unfairly. 😮
Deception has been going on for a long time? Look at the wolves buying time on Daystar? Marcus was committing adultery for 7 years before being caught. The spirit of greed has long taken over Daystar❤ Jonathon and Suzie should run.
What about the chid , This is indeed truth needs to come out & even it’s a family member. Charge him . A child don,t lie & Joni don,t you cover is up The bible says clean your own house up before cleaning other homes up , Sad 😢 this has happened
100 % Agree with this letter and the Wisdom and Discernment shared here . Judgment begins in the house of GOD. Millstone might as well be made ready for the ones who ignored and covered up what their child experienced. If there's not Acknowledgement , Brokenness and humble and contrite hearts , Daystar cannot survive the heavenly scrutiny, and the reaping of consequences.... From Shofar's Mom Believers, Watchmen, Soldiers of Christ, Pray !
Marcus Lamb was in an adulterous relationship for SEVEN YEARS WHILE ON Daystar! The viewers didn't catch that then. I'm not confident AT ALL that they'd catch it NOW, without Jonathan & Suzy having brought transparency to the forefront. Many are STILL uncertain even with so many truths unfolding like pie crust rolled up on wax paper. I didn't even know who Marcus Lamb was, until right after his passing. I didn't know of Joni, until almost 2yrs back. I discerned something was amiss, soon after I began viewing The Joni Show/Table Talk, and I believe this to be, bc, I'm NOT close to anyone of them. I'm not in the forest. I'm above it in a helicopter, so to speak. It was strictly about discernment. I didn't know then, why I was being led to watch so many of the shows, but it all makes sense to me now. *God is doing a "New Thing".
I’m praying for eyes to be opened to the truth as God is shining His light of exposure. Those funding this dynasty need discernment…it’s time to defund these defiled platforms! “Sweep the leg”!
Theres so much blind money going to demonic agendas its crazy. The people dont care,they much rather "feel" like they arr part of a move of God rather than actually being part of a move of God. The shaking and falling away has begun
Those who call themselves her friends and stood by and watch this happen don’t really love her. Real Christian’s that really love someone will tell them the truth in love and not be afraid of confrontation. But because they are yes people and have no backbone to stand on the word of God they become passive and are what the Bible calls lukewarm. And because they are neither hot nor cold God said he would spew them out of his mouth. We have to be one or the other, not straddling the fence or God will reject us according to Revelation 3:16.
2:43 truth and righteousness, a man who had a long running affair and didn’t come clean with it until he was threatened with blackmail. Something terribly wrong with this “letter”.
Joni Is Losing All Of God's Trust By Believing in this Deceitful Man and Those That Surround her and Are Blinded By The Deception...God Help Her and Her Family 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yes I though the same. Never could listen to him Evans or Weiss. Joni definitely has a type. Now I realize that God has used them all I am saying is for me personally always a check in my spirit.
Joni is broken. I’m sure the betrayal of her husband never really healed. But Doug was married. You are wrong and now you have hurt someone the way Markus hurt you. Doug is after the money. Jesus still loves you come home
I dont know why this grandma who ever she is fprgot about all Marcus underhand business. Suzy explained everything he and Joni covered up. So the lies started with both of them. Suzy and Johnathan saw all the underhand stuff going on. Joni put fear in people if they dont agree with her. Even her grandchild. Im shocked that Jimmy opened up about the underhand stuff. Okay i admire him for doing it. When he spoke ti Johnathan and said what Joni wanted him to say. I immediately saw his fear of Joni. So now Joni has another exfriend. Suzy you you spoke the Truth all along. All Joni lies and undercover schemes will be shouted from the roof top. You have been caught. 😮
Blasphemy is a low opinion of and lack of regard for the Holy Spirit that results in speaking with disrespect and lies. It is very spiritually dangerous to one's soul.
It's obvious that AI created this content. For someone to say that Marcus was principled and Godly is ridiculous. He had an affair with a woman for 7 years while he was on the air. And Joni is no better than him.
Please God shine your light upon. Joni's spirit to let Marcus rest in peace. It is her responsibility to take the family and ministry with God she knew before marrying Doug. Unbelievable that she forgot what she preached more than 30yrs ago blinded by Satan. My heart is crying out for Jonathan, Suzy and daughter. The solution for this mess is remove Joni from Daystar, she can leave and be with her ungodly husband away from the children and ministry,
I pray Marcus repented before his death about his affair and coving up his granddaughters molestation. I also pray that Joni repents and tells the whole truth about her granddaughter's abuse being covered up and her relationship with Doug. The family needs healing, and it starts with the truth. May Joni's heart return to the fear of God and repent, so the whole family can begin to heal. I hurt for Susy, Johnathon, and their daughter. They need to hold to their convictions. God is revealing the truth, and Joni can not continue to hide and lie about it. God sees all and reveals all.
People she was vulnerable. Pray for her. I don't justify her actions, but WE need to operate in truth and mercy. Open up her eyes so GOD can heal her family.
Was she vulnerable when she covered up the SA of the child and Suzy? It occurred before Marcus’s death. They had derailed long before Marcus’s death IMHO.
A very wise and discerni g woman speaking/writing here. I completely agree with her. However, I also believe this network to be producers of false doctrine. SHUT it DOWN!
Joni is acting like a teenager & Doug is just raking in all he can get. I can't believe the things she's said to her son & daughter in law. ai would never say such things to my kids. I love them. Is this how she treated Marcus. No wonder he cheated.
Marcus had a family counselor that the entire family used. Jonnie went to her for advice on marrying Doug Weiss and so did Johnathan and Jonathan‘s two sisters. This is the letter that the counselor wrote after she counseled with Jonnie and then she met and Counseled Doug Weiss once Joni found out this counselor did not endorse and gave a blessing for Jonnie to marry Doug Weiss. Joni cut off all contact with this counselor.😢🙏
@@alexfagyas9342 this is a letter written by the lamb family counselor after she met with all the lamb children. She separately met with Jonnie then met with Doug once she gave her opinion to Jonnie that she does not support this marriage. Joni cut off all contact with this counselor and went with the advice of Jimmy Evans instead, sounds like AI is reading the letter
Whomever posted this - explain the source better. How did this alleged letter from a relative find its way to you? Regardless of who's side you're on, this post smells fishy. Also: In any situation when facts are still coming to light, Proverbs 18:17 should be the filter.
@@hendameyer3832 It is legit except for the clickbait title. Denise Boggs-a Godly freind and family counselor who was trusted by the entire family wrote the letter. She had also done marriage counseling with Doug and his exwife which emboldened her further to give warning to Joni. Joni refused her warnings.
Marcus and Joni did not set a high standard! Marcus had a 6 year affair and he was punished by the Church of God ministry! High standards? Million dollar homes, a JET, lavish lifestyle, expensive vacations!
doug is charming and a smooth talker .. easily.swept women off the feet..doug knows how to charm a woman since he is a marriage counsellor. he knows how to sugar coat a woman... definitely any woman will fall into the trap
Chuck Swindoll once said, “It takes a steady hand to hold a full cup!” A full cup meaning much wealth. Most people can handle failure better than success and wealth! It’s so easy to let your ego run wild, make moral compromises and forget about God, even if you don’t realize it for a long time. 😢 I used to want riches, but at this point, I just look forward to heaven and Christ. The world has NOTHING for me but a dark future. 💀 🔥 Like the old hymn says, “I’d rather have Jesus, than silver or gold….!” ⛅️😁
I am not sure that Marcus Lamb was a shining example of integrity. Anyway, the bible is full of flawed characters. If you want to support an organization like Daystar and believe some of their deception, that is your choice.
A Godly person should stand against sin and NOT support it. Your comments are an example of complacency and woke culture. Twisting language about flawed characters should not give an impression that deliberate and continued sin without confession and repentance are okay. Awaken to the truth. DAYSTAR is nothing more than a worldly business, not a church.
@MsAmelia55 I don't support their activities and I am not woke and complacent. I am deeply disappointed by what has transpired. At the same time, I am actually not surprised, and some people will unfortunately continue to support them. The truth needs to come out quickly, so that this whole sordid episode can be put to rest. Whether or not Daystar survives that and who wishes to stay on the channel remains to be seen.
A SPIRIT OF DECEPTION AT DAYSTAR IS EVIDENT IN THE CONTENT OF THEIR PROGRAMMING. THE MOST HIGH GOD, YAHWEH, IS EXPOSING AND CLEANSING HIS BRIDE; DAYSTAR IS MERELY THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. 👀 🙏
I w/venture to say that Yahweh/God is exposing evil..wherever it's found..cuz still affects or can..believers..or those who w/become believers. We know that other large international 'entities' have been exposed..& there is more to come I am sure. As hard as it is to see & hear..it at least w/put 'the FEAR of GOD' back into the hearts of people!..and..reinforce the idea that God KNOWS/a record is made..& someone IS watching!
Joni's familiar with SA inside her family. I believe it was her father who was caught. Now she is with a predator who flatters her. She does not belong in Daystar. Evans does not belong.
Marcus lamb, according to his son shut down a child molestation investigation and said it had been completed and declared the person innocent. So I don't know what you're talking about, but it's the last time I'm listening to hush hush.
Sins unconfessed, with those involved repenting & turning away from those sins build sin upon sin. The stack the taller and eventually it all comes tumbling down!
Joni's mom didn't say "your kids don't have the right to question you". she asked "how are they getting the hutzpah?" It was a pointed question. Where do we get the strength but God?
People talk about Marcus as though he was a righteous, holy, Godly man. Was he holy, Godly, righteous all those seven years that he sinned with a woman who was not his wife? Was he Godly when he declared without proof that a possible child molester was innocent? No, I think some peoples view of righteous, holy and Godly are far different from mine. Was it the adultry of Marcus that caused Joni to fall for a manipulator? No, it was Joni who was decieved because she was not walking close to God. If people who watch Daystar can tell that there is something off about this man, why can't she? Was it because she left God behind somewhere along the way in building up Daystar to be a money making machine? Is this money making machine and new husband so great that she is willing to toss her only son aside?
Joni .as a child of God. I think you are just being used to be exposed with this marriage. Joni according to me .I think as a mother. To the world's mentor please let all this go and give what is due to your seed. Johnathan lamb. I speak with love concern. For the respect for day star T❤❤❤❤❤❤❤what was and in the dark is God's business. Not the world. You are making it the world business.
It's the world's business when such an organization is posing as a representative of God. We are commanded to expose false teachers. I believe Gid allowed this as his judgment on the organization and the leaders.
She isn't, the produce of this site called her 'grandma', and just maybe that's how the members of the family thought of her until receiving this letter.
Stop making Marcus a saint, he cheated on Joni. They are all human and fallible. The truth will come out whether it is on her side, the children’s side, or neither. Sadly this is another blight on Christian television. Also, admire Evan’s ministry but his testimony is one of infidelity also. So none of them are saints, stop putting any of them on a pedestal. They are no different than us other than their calling is different. .
WHAT! All the children have something from their father, and unless Joni messes more with her life they all have as her children the balance - if she hasn't spent it all.
He might have to make a claim..or sue..? But!..if Joni 'steps down'..or is found guilty of a crime..which w/necessarily incl complicit 'board'..and Doug hopefully!..what then? What w/keep Joni from passing the baton to..daughter(s)..& their husbands..? This tragedy must be THOROUGHLY investigated..& on all persons involved. If not done properly & 'mess' escalates..it's up to viewers to boycott! Has a TV network ever declared bankruptcy?😯
@@Mariajames21 I'm 3/4 the way through and will have watched this twice. I'm in shock and don't know how else to say this. Joni has basically disowned this faithful couple. It sounds like a cult with no one has free will, but Joni knows about others in the pastor world who've erred and looks the other way. So did Marcus. Sounds like Joni and her crew are manufacturing more to harm this couple and her own grandchild. I hope this fine couple can move onto something else entirely. Don't trust this so-called christianity TV world that is turning people away and making us look bad.
Of all the videos regarding Daystar, this video is truly the only one with backup scripture. The Spirit of deception is perfectly aligned towards Joni Lamb. Cause I too felt trapped to this😣🙏
How would a female widower, find a second marriage at over 60 years old that the man hadn't been married before? You think you're going to find a 60 year old virgin man?
Joni could have found a man who had never been married, a widower, or a man with a legitimate divorce (a man whose wife had cheated). Instead, she married a man who should not have divorced his wife (his wife was not unfaithful). The scripture says a man who divorces his wife, _except for unfaithfulness,_ and marries another woman *is committing adultery.* Doug Weiss was not to marry another woman _and if he did_ he would be committing adultery. Doug and Joni are now committing adultery. Doug's wife, Lisa, was not unfaithful and was begging him to stay with her.
@@izzyduchess This information (about Lisa begging Doug to stay) was in two different interviews with Jonathan and Suzy Lamb. The first interview is with Marcus Rogers. The second interview is with Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson. Jimmy Evans had also stated previously that there was no infidelity on the part of either Jimmy or Lisa and I believe I heard Joni repeat that when she was interviewed by a man (whose name I can't remember). I think it's in the interview where she states *the 4 A's* that Jimmy (not the Bible) said were reasons for divorce. It has also been stated that Lisa Weiss signed an NDA for Doug and received a cash settlement. I believe that was in one of the interviews conducted by either Marcus Rogers or Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson. ruclips.net/video/c9yPHve87Gk/видео.html It was also stated that when they started to make Lisa Weiss look bad, as if she had done something to cause the divorce, Lisa spoke out and they took that particular video down from Daystar. I have not watched that video, only heard about it and that it was removed.
Joni's mom said "your kids have WATCHED you (meaning they saw and never said a word against it) make good decisions all their lives. HOW dare they question your decisions now?" 🎺 Hello?!? I really believe Joni's mom was trying to tell Joni that the mere fact her GREAT AND BLESSED children would question her decision was a SIGN FROM GOD!!! How dare they? Through Christ! The only way!!! Come on!!!!.
When Marcus Lamb was still alive The Lord gave me a revelation about the Lamb family, THE LORD was warning them that the enemie was plotting against them evil plans, but They where so worry about worry about the looks the clothes the presentation of the programs
It's easier to bring a sinner to repentance than a religious person Matthew 21 Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. 32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him:
Yeah Marcus and his 7 year affair. He always reminded me of a used car salesman. Always has an angle. He didn’t repent after attacking his son and daughter and such. Makes me wonder
Corruption and greed at Daystar is overshadowing the SA. However, God has not forgotten. I believe he is working behind the scenes to bring justice for the child.🙏🏽
I don't agree with bashing Joni and Doug's marriage. If people have an issue with this then that is their problem. Attacking and bashing Joni is simply accusatory. Marcus Lamb wasn't faithful to his marriage to Joni he also had an affair while he was married to Joni. Marcus Lamb was not without fault and he was also deceptive.
It's a simple fact, spoken of by Jonathan and Suzy, that Lisa Weiss did not abandon Doug or mess around on him. DOUG left her and went to Joni. Lisa begged him to stay with her but that only made Joni want Doug more. These are facts. Joni is a hot mess! Hiding an SA of her grand daughter, having a conversation with said grand daughter and now grand daughter is a locked box about it, lying to her own kids about an investigation on it, marrying a married man. It is not just one persons problem because this is a world wide ministry. This is not a good look for the body of Christ.
Marcus was having an affair for 7 years!! That adulterous spirit was there and deception is part of that!!!
That’s why he died young
Wow! 7 yrs he was cheating on Joni?!! She didn’t know?? 🤔
I was wondering if the Marcus was having an affair with a close friend of hers and Joni was having an affair with a friend of his....🧐
@@Midnightcrimefiles wow, were they heading g up Daystar then?
@@maryflorio2220 yup
This isn't something where suddenly Joni is entangled and being manipulated into. The woman wanted that man, period, and it looks like Joni gets what she wants, no matter who gets hurt in the process.
That is simply evil: Joni knew Doug and Lisa, was well aware that Lisa didn’t want to lose her husband, and callously pursued him anyway knowing the fame, power, prestige, and vast wealth she could offer would be almost impossible for him to turn down. Suzy said Lisa begged Doug not to leave her. Doug even had been her & Marcus’ marital counselor. It’s wrong on every single level, and they are in an adulterous marriage. Joni didn’t;t hesitate throwing her own son under the bus instead of admit her sin.
Agree Joni was always highly manipulative. And that fraud Jimmy Evans is finally exposed fr who he really is. They’re all lost.
Crazy what lust of the flesh does to a person, isn't it?
@@guadalupeeg5034 I believe a ‘spirit of lust! from her father us on her. When Suzy asked her if she was willing to give up Daystar and her family for Doug Weiss, she answered “yes!” It is almost beyond comprehension what Joni has turned into as a result of marrying Doug! Deception reigns unashamedly in her life!! So sad! God have mercy; Holy Spirit conviction her heart to repent!! 🙏📖🕊️
Well, unless Joni got a legal prenuptual agreement and an updated will, Doug Weiss gets Daystar if Joni dies.
The body of Christ does not need Daystar. Shut it down.
No the board needs to be removed Joni FIRST!
By what mechanism can Daystar be shut down as long as gullible donors keep writing checks? I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect all this will be swept under the rug and Daystar will continue business as usual.
@@richardgray8593 well since it really is NOT a church or a ministry....(.its simply a tv network that rents space to prosperity pastors) the IRS should start investigating their tax free status. That would shut this mess down quick.
@@jaygirlization I don't know why some judge does not step in and tell them that they don't get to claim legal status as a church. Hey IRS, we _identify_ as a church, so there.
@@jaygirlizationfor quite a long time I keep getting in my spirit that the IRS is going to do just that. The charade is over in professing Christians using laws to make big money and being dishonest about it . God is dealing with this huge sin in the Body of Christ right now, the fear of the Lord is zero in the Church ! Jesus is coming soon for a spotless Bride. Cleanse the Church Lord, I pray!!!
To say Marcus and Joni set a high standard is hilarious since they platform so many false teachers.
Right??? Lol
Amen to that, give platform's to snakes 🐍 and vipers. Marcus Lamb had an affair that lasted a few years. Jimmy Evans is one of the VIPERS!!!! NO ADULTERY!!!!! in the Weiss marriage, until the SEX THERAPIST was driven by his FLESH, and Jimmy Evans added FUEL TO THE FIRE 🔥 between Doug and Joni! Thank God Johnathan and his family 👪 🙏" have jumped ship!! The TITANIC IS SINKING, FLOODED WITH " SIN"
She was desperate for a man as her covering, and he was eager to take the helm at Daystar...at the expense of his first wife.
How many years in ministry?
Joni should know Jesus is her covering.
We like to blame people's behavior on a "spirit". Joni is a grown woman professing to be a Christian who is filled with the Holy Spirit. She made these decisions on her own. No spirit needed. Perhaps people need an excuse for Joni, but I think we are actually just seeing who Joni is. None of us know her. We only see the Joni that is presented on Daystar. No need to ask "Will the real Joni please stand up?", because she already has.
Excellent comment! This “spirit of this or that” is blamed for a lot of things that used to simply be called SIN. We all must “own” it, confess it, and turn away from our sin.
And the deception via Jimmy Evans.
He's quite the non Christian so-called Christian pastor.
So true. I have to say I'd always liked Jimmy Evans in the past, but I started to get lukewarm on Jimmy when I heard the "verbal gymnastics" he went through trying to justify Doug's divorce, that he was a victim, and Joni's marriage to "Dr." Doug. Listening to Jimmy spouting nonsense about Lisa Weiss in order to require the rest of Daystar to accept this marriage was a huge red flag. Nothing he was saying was Biblical, but he just kept insisting.
Then when I heard him on those tapes with Jonathan and Joni, I was shocked. He sounded more like a thug. He must be the "enforcer" for the family to keep them in line. The way he bullied and tried to intimidate Jonathan and Suzy was astonishing.
@@valeriegreen531 I agree. I had always liked Jimmy Evans until I listened to that recording. If I were Jonathan I would have been screaming at him. " *You're not my boss! Get out of this room!* ".
Simply it’s a pedddddo ring
This isn’t her Grandma. It’s her good family friend n mentor/therapist. It’s a REAL letter on Roy’s report and the real reason Suzy and Jonathan stood against this marriage!!!
Yessss!
Then why say it is from the grandma? Just stop lying already
It sounds like the words of a Christian therapist.
Is it from Denise Boggs? She seems to be seeing the situation correctly and she doesn’t seem to be caught up in the minutia of all of this! ❤
@@MedicineGodsWayI think so!!
Now the truth is coming out…Jimmy Evens used to work for Robert Morris but got fired for undisclosed reasons. What chances are there that Doug Weiss knew what those reasons were and black mailed Jimmy Evan’s to go along with the marriage to Joni?
It’s sadly possible, with all the revelations of wrongdoing by this crowd coming out. I’ve been so shocked by Evans because he was always strictly by the Bible in everything I’d heard him say before.
Pretty good I’d say. It’s already been revealed that a whole bunch of them have dirt on each other so favours get cashed in every so often. This is the Christian form of the Diddy saga. Both are running simultaneous to each other and even cross over back and forth.
@@awakingthesleepers35 wow that’s interesting
When you put your kingdom, position and wealth ahead of your own 5 year old granddaughter then your kingdom shall surely fall.
If Marcus, such a high standard than his seven years of adultery, or however, long, it was contradicts this for sure
Those who attended the wedding of Doug and Joni were also deceived especially Pastors. Joni ' s friends are her worst enemies. Doug will face the wrath of God and Joshua Brown 🟤🟤🟤
Let’s stand on scripture…. IF they are born of the Spirit into the Body of Christ, they’re justified by Christ’s blood and will not “face the wrath of God”. Whether they are actually saved or not, I have no idea.
@@krissyyoung9264may they repent. But their fruit sure is rotten.
Attending Doug and Joni’s wedding is just like attending a gay marriage. Unbiblical.
But didn’t Marcus have an ongoing affair? Did he actually stand for truth and righteousness? We need to repent and turn from sin and to God.
Sorry but no, they had NOT set such a high standard before. They let every money grabbing, Simon the Magician, on their network that it was revolting and evident to any Spirit filled believer. The Lord has given them plenty of time to repent and turn their network to Christ and yet they continued. They’ve sowed and now they’re reaping.
I agree wholeheartedly. To my hearts sadness.
Exactly
You nailed it. I met her about 20 years ago. They only help…people that can help them.
You are so right. They gave been deceivers from the beginning. The lulled people into their way of thinking for years. God is pulling back the cover of deception on individuals and false ministries here in the end times.
They were just pretenders with a hidden agenda.
Did Marcus open up his family to the spirit of deception after having an affair with another woman for approximately 7 years? The women involved wanted restitution in how they were treated at their jobs. It was dismissed as trying to fleece Daystar while the men were not held accountable. Both went on news shows and Dr. Phil I believe , saying they were just want money for the affairs when he was about how they were treated on the job. They deserved to be heard and restitution when they left Daystar. These women were swept under the rug and the men were not fired, thus the women were treated unequally and unfairly. 😮
Fortunately, God doesn't sleep. He will bring justice for those women.
Everyone needs to begin demanding answers from every single so called Pastor as to why they are still broadcasting on DayStar …turn up the Heat Church
Better yet...stop watching & listening & sending money!!
Deception has been going on for a long time? Look at the wolves buying time on Daystar? Marcus was committing adultery for 7 years before being caught. The spirit of greed has long taken over Daystar❤ Jonathon and Suzie should run.
I think Denise Boggs is correct
She is correct she warned Joni, she knew Doug wasn't right in his spirit
Except, the foundation of Daystar under Marcus was ungodly too.
Daystar has been deception from the start, run run to Jesus
Yes, it has, wolves in sheep's clothing.
Everything warned to Joni has come to pass. Joni didnt take into account that God gives discernment. And hes given it to viewers.
AI readers leave something to be desired
What about the chid ,
This is indeed truth needs to come out & even it’s a family member.
Charge him .
A child don,t lie & Joni don,t you cover is up
The bible says clean your own house up before cleaning other homes up ,
Sad 😢 this has happened
Joni should be charged for covering up the SA in order to protect their empire's image and to keep the money rolling in.
@@Ricebajan They need to show her that she doesn't speak for God!
@@Ricebajan Yes and they are in very deep now, including Jimmy Evans, Tom Calendar. I bet Doug wouldn't stick around if Joni is sitting in jail.
100 % Agree with this letter and the Wisdom and Discernment shared here .
Judgment begins in the house of GOD.
Millstone might as well be made ready for the ones who ignored and covered up what their child experienced.
If there's not Acknowledgement , Brokenness and humble and contrite hearts ,
Daystar cannot survive the heavenly scrutiny, and the reaping of consequences....
From Shofar's Mom
Believers, Watchmen, Soldiers of Christ,
Pray !
Marcus Lamb was in an adulterous relationship for SEVEN YEARS WHILE ON Daystar!
The viewers didn't catch
that then.
I'm not confident AT ALL that they'd catch it NOW,
without Jonathan & Suzy having brought transparency to the forefront.
Many are STILL uncertain even with
so many truths unfolding like pie crust rolled up on wax paper.
I didn't even know who Marcus Lamb was,
until right after his passing.
I didn't know of Joni,
until almost 2yrs back.
I discerned something
was amiss, soon after I began viewing The Joni Show/Table Talk,
and I believe this to be,
bc, I'm NOT close to anyone of them.
I'm not in the forest.
I'm above it in a helicopter, so to speak.
It was strictly about
discernment.
I didn't know then,
why I was being led
to watch so many of
the shows, but it all
makes sense to me now.
*God is doing a
"New Thing".
I’m praying for eyes to be opened to the truth as God is shining His light of exposure. Those funding this dynasty need discernment…it’s time to defund these defiled platforms! “Sweep the leg”!
Theres so much blind money going to demonic agendas its crazy. The people dont care,they much rather "feel" like they arr part of a move of God rather than actually being part of a move of God. The shaking and falling away has begun
Was she under that spirit of deception when they lied to Jonathan and Suzy about the investigation of their daughter?
They are typical Charismatics. A bunch of fakes!!!! These people are following a false gospel and another Jesus.
She's no under the spirit of deception. she's a deceiver.
Those who call themselves her friends and stood by and watch this happen don’t really love her.
Real Christian’s that really love someone will tell them the truth in love and not be afraid of confrontation.
But because they are yes people and have no backbone to stand on the word of God they become passive and are what the Bible calls lukewarm.
And because they are neither hot nor cold God said he would spew them out of his mouth.
We have to be one or the other, not straddling the fence or God will reject us according to Revelation 3:16.
$$$$$
Well said sister.
Too many conflicts of interest to speak truth.
I pray that God will rebuke and convict them all to the point where they will have no peace in life until they stand up for truth.
No, it's called manipulation. They want more air time
2:43 truth and righteousness, a man who had a long running affair and didn’t come clean with it until he was threatened with blackmail. Something terribly wrong with this “letter”.
I think this is Denise Boggs letter a very close friend of the Lamb. Their family councilor.
Was this Mrs Boggs' letter to the family? Wow.
Yes.
Denise Boggs is not only full of wisdom, but is unafraid.
The AI voice is rather annoying. But the content is informative.
Joni Is Losing All Of God's Trust By Believing in this Deceitful Man and Those That Surround her and Are Blinded By The Deception...God Help Her and Her Family 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Haha! Using Marcus as a morality standard?
Yes I though the same. Never could listen to him Evans or Weiss. Joni definitely has a type. Now I realize that God has used them all I am saying is for me personally always a check in my spirit.
THE MEASURING STICK IS THE "WORD OF GOD"
Perhaps he truly repented
@@rua369 I didn't like Weiss and I didn't like Marcus - but Jimmy had me fooled and I am mad about it.
change the title of this video for accuracy
Christians must be honest, please change the title if the letter was NOT from her grandma. Do it for Christ's sake.
Joni is broken. I’m sure the betrayal of her husband never really healed. But Doug was married. You are wrong and now you have hurt someone the way Markus hurt you. Doug is after the money. Jesus still loves you come home
I dont know why this grandma who ever she is fprgot about all Marcus underhand business. Suzy explained everything he and Joni covered up. So the lies started with both of them. Suzy and Johnathan saw all the underhand stuff going on. Joni put fear in people if they dont agree with her. Even her grandchild. Im shocked that Jimmy opened up about the underhand stuff. Okay i admire him for doing it. When he spoke ti Johnathan and said what Joni wanted him to say. I immediately saw his fear of Joni. So now Joni has another exfriend. Suzy you you spoke the Truth all along. All Joni lies and undercover schemes will be shouted from the roof top. You have been caught. 😮
Blasphemy is a low opinion of and lack of regard for the Holy Spirit that results in speaking with disrespect and lies. It is very spiritually dangerous to one's soul.
It's obvious that AI created this content. For someone to say that Marcus was principled and Godly is ridiculous. He had an affair with a woman for 7 years while he was on the air. And Joni is no better than him.
Marcas was a cheater to he swept in under the rug about his grandaughter
He probably felt that the organization could not survive with another scandal.
But the organization didn't assault the child...a man did. Was he an employee as well? @@Ricebajan
Please!
Stop using marcus to excuse her actions....she new it was bad when marcus was cheating but is OK if she does it...Give me a break!!
I can only stand to listen to an AI voice for a minute or so.
I know what you mean !
Please God shine your light upon. Joni's spirit to let Marcus rest in peace. It is her responsibility to take the family and ministry with God she knew before marrying Doug. Unbelievable that she forgot what she preached more than 30yrs ago blinded by Satan. My heart is crying out for Jonathan, Suzy and daughter. The solution for this mess is remove Joni from Daystar, she can leave and be with her ungodly husband away from the children and ministry,
The ministry is tainted, so it has to go.
I pray Marcus repented before his death about his affair and coving up his granddaughters molestation. I also pray that Joni repents and tells the whole truth about her granddaughter's abuse being covered up and her relationship with Doug. The family needs healing, and it starts with the truth. May Joni's heart return to the fear of God and repent, so the whole family can begin to heal. I hurt for Susy, Johnathon, and their daughter. They need to hold to their convictions.
God is revealing the truth, and Joni can not continue to hide and lie about it. God sees all and reveals all.
Lock her up. Maybe she can share a cell with Hillary.
People she was vulnerable. Pray for her. I don't justify her actions, but WE need to operate in truth and mercy. Open up her eyes so GOD can heal her family.
Was she vulnerable when she covered up the SA of the child and Suzy? It occurred before Marcus’s death. They had derailed long before Marcus’s death IMHO.
@@DonnaDay-t9x I agree. She is hard hearted and bottom line driven. and very vindictive.
God help this family IJMN.AMEN.
A very wise and discerni g woman speaking/writing here. I completely agree with her. However, I also believe this network to be producers of false doctrine. SHUT it DOWN!
God will NOT be mocked. They have a decision to make and they need to make it soon . I pray God that they are able to find their first love in Christ.
The Grandma is Denise Boggs…who IS a grandma!!
Lol
Watch how that Evan’s dude and Weiss separate her from all her family, and steal everything from under her feet!!!!
I think she will begin to see when she is sitting in jail. That will be her awakening
Uuhhh, wasn't Marcus an adulterer? 🤨
Joni is acting like a teenager & Doug is just raking in all he can get. I can't believe the things she's said to her son & daughter in law. ai would never say such things to my kids. I love them. Is this how she treated Marcus. No wonder he cheated.
Doug has deceived her, and she doesn't know it. May God expose him soon.
Is this ai ?
Yes it is sound like A.I.
I hate (really) AI voice
Yes
Marcus had a family counselor that the entire family used. Jonnie went to her for advice on marrying Doug Weiss and so did Johnathan and Jonathan‘s two sisters. This is the letter that the counselor wrote after she counseled with Jonnie and then she met and Counseled Doug Weiss once Joni found out this counselor did not endorse and gave a blessing for Jonnie to marry Doug Weiss. Joni cut off all contact with this counselor.😢🙏
@@alexfagyas9342 this is a letter written by the lamb family counselor after she met with all the lamb children. She separately met with Jonnie then met with Doug once she gave her opinion to Jonnie that she does not support this marriage. Joni cut off all contact with this counselor and went with the advice of Jimmy Evans instead, sounds like AI is reading the letter
Whomever posted this - explain the source better. How did this alleged letter from a relative find its way to you? Regardless of who's side you're on, this post smells fishy.
Also: In any situation when facts are still coming to light, Proverbs 18:17 should be the filter.
Julieroys
It's not from a family member. It's another women that's a counceler/family friend.
Totally legit.
This letter is from Denise Boggs.
@@hendameyer3832 It is legit except for the clickbait title. Denise Boggs-a Godly freind and family counselor who was trusted by the entire family wrote the letter. She had also done marriage counseling with Doug and his exwife which emboldened her further to give warning to Joni. Joni refused her warnings.
It's obvious that the person doesn't want to be identified.
It could be a friend or family member pretending to be someone else.
Marcus and Joni did not set a high standard! Marcus had a 6 year affair and he was punished by the Church of God ministry! High standards? Million dollar homes, a JET, lavish lifestyle, expensive vacations!
CLICK BAIT
doug is charming and a smooth talker .. easily.swept women off the feet..doug knows how to charm a woman since he is a marriage counsellor. he knows how to sugar coat a woman... definitely any woman will fall into the trap
This is why we must lean on the Word.
Yes
Chuck Swindoll once said, “It takes a steady hand to hold a full cup!” A full cup meaning much wealth. Most people can handle failure better than success and wealth! It’s so easy to let your ego run wild, make moral compromises and forget about God, even if you don’t realize it for a long time. 😢 I used to want riches, but at this point, I just look forward to heaven and Christ. The world has NOTHING for me but a dark future. 💀 🔥 Like the old hymn says, “I’d rather have Jesus, than silver or gold….!” ⛅️😁
Wow! We all need matriarchs of the faith like this lady in our families! ❤
I am not sure that Marcus Lamb was a shining example of integrity. Anyway, the bible is full of flawed characters. If you want to support an organization like Daystar and believe some of their deception, that is your choice.
A Godly person should stand against sin and NOT support it. Your comments are an example of complacency and woke culture. Twisting language about flawed characters should not give an impression that deliberate and continued sin without confession and repentance are okay. Awaken to the truth. DAYSTAR is nothing more than a worldly business, not a church.
@MsAmelia55 I don't support their activities and I am not woke and complacent. I am deeply disappointed by what has transpired. At the same time, I am actually not surprised, and some people will unfortunately continue to support them. The truth needs to come out quickly, so that this whole sordid episode can be put to rest. Whether or not Daystar survives that and who wishes to stay on the channel remains to be seen.
@@MsAmelia55 I agree with you, but how does the government and the eIRS define church because it does have the perks of real churches?
This may be found in the 501 3 (c) affiliation..
@@clairecallas2238 TY - will look it up.
What's with the robot voice over...lame.
A SPIRIT OF DECEPTION AT DAYSTAR IS EVIDENT IN THE CONTENT OF THEIR PROGRAMMING.
THE MOST HIGH GOD, YAHWEH, IS EXPOSING AND CLEANSING HIS BRIDE; DAYSTAR IS MERELY THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. 👀 🙏
I w/venture to say that Yahweh/God is exposing evil..wherever it's found..cuz still affects or can..believers..or those who w/become believers.
We know that other large international 'entities' have been exposed..& there is more to come I am sure.
As hard as it is to see & hear..it at least w/put 'the FEAR of GOD' back into the hearts of people!..and..reinforce the idea that God KNOWS/a record is made..& someone IS watching!
Joni's familiar with SA inside her family. I believe it was her father who was caught. Now she is with a predator who flatters her. She does not belong in Daystar. Evans does not belong.
What month and year did Rodney Howard Brown voice his disagreement about the future marriage?
Marcus lamb, according to his son shut down a child molestation investigation and said it had been completed and declared the person innocent. So I don't know what you're talking about, but it's the last time I'm listening to hush hush.
Get the facts, before you speak!!!!!
@@barbaraniman739 Those are the facts.
Sins unconfessed, with those involved repenting & turning away from those sins build sin upon sin.
The stack the taller and eventually it all comes tumbling down!
" OH WHAT A TANGELED WEB WE WEAVE WHE " FIRST" WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE! ( Sir Walter Scott, 1808)
Yep...deception at its best!
Joni's mom didn't say "your kids don't have the right to question you". she asked "how are they getting the hutzpah?" It was a pointed question. Where do we get the strength but God?
Why would I believe a nameless, faceless AI generated video. Why are you telling us, why not her family?
The letter was sent to each member of the family!!
@@arlenefaber5912I can understand the NEED for a 'disinterested party'..in this case..
Glad I never watched Daystar
People talk about Marcus as though he was a righteous, holy, Godly man. Was he holy, Godly, righteous all those seven years that he sinned with a woman who was not his wife? Was he Godly when he declared without proof that a possible child molester was innocent? No, I think some peoples view of righteous, holy and Godly are far different from mine. Was it the adultry of Marcus that caused Joni to fall for a manipulator? No, it was Joni who was decieved because she was not walking close to God. If people who watch Daystar can tell that there is something off about this man, why can't she? Was it because she left God behind somewhere along the way in building up Daystar to be a money making machine? Is this money making machine and new husband so great that she is willing to toss her only son aside?
Too late!
If this is NOT THE GRANDMA??? WHY THE LIES???? DOES JESUS GIVE HIS BLESSINGS TO THIS KIND OF DECEPTION?? REALLY??? SIN IS SIN!!!!!!THEM OR US!!!!
Joni .as a child of God. I think you are just being used to be exposed with this marriage. Joni according to me .I think as a mother. To the world's mentor please let all this go and give what is due to your seed. Johnathan lamb. I speak with love concern. For the respect for day star T❤❤❤❤❤❤❤what was and in the dark is God's business. Not the world. You are making it the world business.
Joni is the world's mentor? Wow!
It's the world's business when such an organization is posing as a representative of God. We are commanded to expose false teachers. I believe Gid allowed this as his judgment on the organization and the leaders.
This is interesting! Joni mom ? Really her hasband had affairs at Daystar, cover up, and it has its own story! Sorry calling this out!!!! Nice try!
GRANDMA, DON'T BE DECEIVED, MARCUS COMMITTED ADULTERY! HE DID NOT BREAK IT OFF UNTIL HE WAS CAUGHT!
Is this a AI Robot speaking? Crap
Why not show it's face while speaking , but then that could be fake also.
How do we know this is grandma and who’s
is this ai crap?😴
Why are you being deceptive pretending to be " Grandma " ?
She isn't, the produce of this site called her 'grandma', and just maybe that's how the members of the family thought of her until receiving this letter.
@@Lucylou7070 Yes like calling Joshua Brown Pete . It is a cover and not needed since Grandma came public recently .
Stop making Marcus a saint, he cheated on Joni. They are all human and fallible. The truth will come out whether it is on her side, the children’s side, or neither. Sadly this is another blight on Christian television. Also, admire Evan’s ministry but his testimony is one of infidelity also. So none of them are saints, stop putting any of them on a pedestal. They are no different than us other than their calling is different. .
Perfectly.
Joni's Grandma would have to be 104 years old. She's 64 years old. Could be some type of elder though.
Fake
This sounds like a computer talking and nota person.
Jonathan has NO inheritance.
WHAT! All the children have something from their father, and unless Joni messes more with her life they all have as her children the balance - if she hasn't spent it all.
He might have to make a claim..or sue..? But!..if Joni 'steps down'..or is found guilty of a crime..which w/necessarily incl complicit 'board'..and Doug hopefully!..what then? What w/keep Joni from passing the baton to..daughter(s)..& their husbands..? This tragedy must be THOROUGHLY investigated..& on all persons involved. If not done properly & 'mess' escalates..it's up to viewers to boycott!
Has a TV network ever declared bankruptcy?😯
Watch the Laura Tyler interview they have NO inheritance!
@@Mariajames21 I'm 3/4 the way through and will have watched this twice. I'm in shock and don't know how else to say this. Joni has basically disowned this faithful couple. It sounds like a cult with no one has free will, but Joni knows about others in the pastor world who've erred and looks the other way. So did Marcus. Sounds like Joni and her crew are manufacturing more to harm this couple and her own grandchild. I hope this fine couple can move onto something else entirely. Don't trust this so-called christianity TV world that is turning people away and making us look bad.
God is THE WAY- MAKER!!!!!
What is this nonsense. Machine read?
Of all the videos regarding Daystar, this video is truly the only one with backup scripture. The Spirit of deception is perfectly aligned towards Joni Lamb. Cause I too felt trapped to this😣🙏
🤔🤔🤔
Isaiah 14:12 Daystar..,..,a name for Satan. Wow!!!!
How would a female widower, find a second marriage at over 60 years old that the man hadn't been married before? You think you're going to find a 60 year old virgin man?
Joni could have found a man who had never been married, a widower, or a man with a legitimate divorce (a man whose wife had cheated). Instead, she married a man who should not have divorced his wife (his wife was not unfaithful). The scripture says a man who divorces his wife, _except for unfaithfulness,_ and marries another woman *is committing adultery.* Doug Weiss was not to marry another woman _and if he did_ he would be committing adultery. Doug and Joni are now committing adultery. Doug's wife, Lisa, was not unfaithful and was begging him to stay with her.
@@boltingpuppies and I assume you know some of this from speaking with Lisa Weiss directly?
@@izzyduchess This information (about Lisa begging Doug to stay) was in two different interviews with Jonathan and Suzy Lamb. The first interview is with Marcus Rogers. The second interview is with Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson. Jimmy Evans had also stated previously that there was no infidelity on the part of either Jimmy or Lisa and I believe I heard Joni repeat that when she was interviewed by a man (whose name I can't remember). I think it's in the interview where she states *the 4 A's* that Jimmy (not the Bible) said were reasons for divorce. It has also been stated that Lisa Weiss signed an NDA for Doug and received a cash settlement. I believe that was in one of the interviews conducted by either Marcus Rogers or Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson.
ruclips.net/video/c9yPHve87Gk/видео.html
It was also stated that when they started to make Lisa Weiss look bad, as if she had done something to cause the divorce, Lisa spoke out and they took that particular video down from Daystar. I have not watched that video, only heard about it and that it was removed.
Joni's mom said "your kids have WATCHED you (meaning they saw and never said a word against it) make good decisions all their lives. HOW dare they question your decisions now?" 🎺 Hello?!?
I really believe Joni's mom was trying to tell Joni that the mere fact her GREAT AND BLESSED children would question her decision was a SIGN FROM GOD!!! How dare they? Through Christ! The only way!!! Come on!!!!.
When Marcus Lamb was still alive The Lord gave me a revelation about the Lamb family, THE LORD was warning them that the enemie was plotting against them evil plans, but They where so worry about worry about the looks the clothes the presentation of the programs
It's easier to bring a sinner to repentance than a religious person
Matthew 21
Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him:
Yeah Marcus and his 7 year affair. He always reminded me of a used car salesman. Always has an angle. He didn’t repent after attacking his son and daughter and such. Makes me wonder
No one wants to keep the focus on the child were it all started.
Corruption and greed at Daystar is overshadowing the SA. However, God has not forgotten. I believe he is working behind the scenes to bring justice for the child.🙏🏽
I thought her grandma was dead
You should all listen to the word of the Lord through Brother Timothy Dixon on December 8, 2024.
I don't agree with bashing Joni and Doug's marriage. If people have an issue with this then that is their problem. Attacking and bashing Joni is simply accusatory. Marcus Lamb wasn't faithful to his marriage to Joni he also had an affair while he was married to Joni. Marcus Lamb was not without fault and he was also deceptive.
It's a simple fact, spoken of by Jonathan and Suzy, that Lisa Weiss did not abandon Doug or mess around on him. DOUG left her and went to Joni. Lisa begged him to stay with her but that only made Joni want Doug more. These are facts. Joni is a hot mess! Hiding an SA of her grand daughter, having a conversation with said grand daughter and now grand daughter is a locked box about it, lying to her own kids about an investigation on it, marrying a married man.
It is not just one persons problem because this is a world wide ministry. This is not a good look for the body of Christ.