For others watching this video - my ex had a Nissan Qashqai she bought new and had 5 years warranty - it would periodically set of the CEL ( Check engine light ) and she would report this to the dealer and take it in to get repaired under warranty. She did this about 8 times in 4 years while the car was under warranty - all the dealer did was reset the light. After 4 years she forced the dealer to accept the car back under our major fault / problem laws in the ACL . The dealer initially refused so she informed Nissan of what was happening ( the dealer never contacted Nissan about the reoccurring issue ) , To keep it short she stuck to her guns armed with knowledge of Australian Consumer Law and was refunded 100% of the value of the vehicle by the dealer. She achieved this with no legal costs to lawyers ( parasites) but simply educated herself with information provided online for free from many Government departments both state and federal.
No rust issues yet after 3 years. But battery is always flat. Dealership said there is nothing wrong with it. So I must be just imagining it. Thx ldv you fuxks!
I have a mate with a 2019 t60 trailrider. Between brand new and now he’s had 2x lots of body mounts replaced, all 4 doors replaced (and is about to go back in for its second set of rear doors) and the fire wall retreated… very safe to say that they don’t mind rusting away!…
That is pretty amazing. I had a Ford and had issues and to get warranty done was unreal. Then i had a Mercedes and same scenario, warranty, what is that. Good that LDV actually stands by their warranty not like some companies
Back in Feb found paint peeling off the Turrett on my LDV T60. Watched your vid here. On further inspection i also found rust under 1 door handle. Now 9 months later LDV have also given me a full refund!!. Corrosion issues. 4 years old and 128000km. $38860 back in my pocket. Although it took 9 months, most of this because of the dealer. Cheers for the heads up Mike.
Time is the fire in which we burn. A good outcome is one thing, but I prefer to spend a couple $ more for less wasted time and fewer headaches. Rust prevention is about the basics and if LDV can't even get the basics right ...
Hey mate, I'm about to go through the same process. Had it booked in for a service recently and the service provided came back with the following issues; - cracked dash cluster - aircon leak behind dash (aircon no longer works) - leak between transfer case and gear box - leaf springs require replacing - leaf spring bush's require replacing - rear left shock leaking Paint missing along top of windshield similar to yours (no rust there..yet) Rust in various small spots, specifically the tray I'm booked in for the warrnt service in a few days. Would love your advice as I go through the process. If they won't fix those issues I'll be seeking a similar outcome Vehicle is 3 years old and done 66k.
I have exactly the same ute and the same rust along top of windscreen. They are doing a warranty repair repainting the entire upper half of vehicle at a local paint shop.
Seems to be a lot of them. At least they are taking action I guess. They classed mine as “uneconomical to repair” then gave a full refund. I would argue that if there is rust along the windscreen then the chances of it everywhere else are very high. You don’t want to be 2 years down the track and have the bottom of the doors rusting out etc.
Yeah true. I grew up driving Holden so rust is something I see as a feature lol. As long at it holds up mechanical wise until my lease is up it will be ok.
no other dealership would do that. Good on LDV now that service doesnt matter you buy if there are major issues they should recognised and fixed without you having to go through crap its your hard money at the end of the day
Hi there Mike. I’ve had an absolute nightmare with my LDV T60. it’s a 2022 model model. I’ve had everything from my alternator going six months ago with my car being off the road for 6 to 8 weeks due to not having any spare alternators in the country so luckily I was able to get a higher vehicle, three months to buy my vehicle my drivers seat started fraying and LDV told me it’s normal wear and tear which I fought and they eventually replaced the upholstery months later. It’s fraying again! I bought a manual and my clutch has been nothing but a nightmare with an independent mechanic telling me that there is definitely something wrong with it and the release point was way too low. I mentioned this to LDV who inspected it and said it was normal. The clutches becomes so bad now that I sometimes can’t even get it into reverse or other gears. You pay $45,000 for a new vehicle. You expect a lot more customer service has been pathetic at both dealerships that I’ve taken it to my door handles which are the chrome doorhandles are now flaking and my event control mechanism just fell out. On top of all of that looking under my vehicle, I’ve just noticed rust which brought me to your video. it’s been an emotional rollercoaster over the past two years and almost had me giving up. I appreciate your video and any advice for me would be helpful thank you Chris.
It’s interesting. I have a LDV G10+ van and I have now got 110,000km on it. Still runs like new and it does 1000km a week. The only issue I have is not so much corrosion like you have but any stone chips sometimes lead to the paint delaminating from the steel and growing. Easy enough fix though. These vans handle incredibly well on rough windy roads and the engine with the ZF transmission is fantastic. If they sorted the paint issues these would be top notch.
I am seriously considering the My23 G10+ van for work. I am having second thoughts after reading all the negative reviews online. Your post made me consider LDV again.
Hi mate, I just bought another 2 of the t60 also. Honestly for the price and warranty I’m all good, all depends on what you are wanting from a car. I can’t fault the warranty process, 10 x better than having to deal with Toyota or Mazda that’s for sure. Keep me update on your LDV journey
Take the money and run before they change there mind. You did your homework, wrote a very good response to LDV which left them no choice but to offer a full refund. Now go and buy a run out Triton....
Hi mike, this is a great outcome all thjngs considered. I would be interested to know what dealer you dealt with, please and what you're considering replacing it with?
Great outcome. They still tried to rip you off by offering a “market value” buy back which is clearly outside the law though. Others might not be so educated or lucky. Class action anyone?
I think you'll find that most manufacturers are treading this path. I haven't come across any modern vehicles that are built to the same standards as stuff from the mid to late 90's....especially Japanese cars. I have a 2021 Toyota Hiace van, and while it's an excellent car, the paint is way too thin and the panels are not robust enough. Very light contacts have already resulted in creases and paint chipped down to bare metal. This is why I will never get rid of my 98 Nissan Patrol.....cars of this era were actually built to last.
The value of the vehicle they are using is based on national sale average, same as redbook but more broken down, most dealers have this available, it’s how we get trade in values, well how most of us get them anyway
I would have sooner had a vehicle that didn't rust but to refund the full purchase price of the vehicle is setting an example to other manufacturers as to how to treat their customers.
My 1998 Honda XR600R still has a pristine swingarm, even after years off abuse and dirty storage after a wet ride. In comparison, our Chinese bike's swingarm started rusting within one year.
@@AnarchyEnsues I can enter my old XR600R into an enduro, and we won't finish last. But I dumped my Chinese bike after three years. I could not even give it away.
Hi Mike my LDV t60 is having the same rust and paint issues that you experienced. Just wondering if you have a contact number or someone helpful at LDV that might be able to assist me. I have taken it to my local LDV dealer and they were going to rectify the rust about a year ago. When I chased up with them why they hadn't organised the repairs they stated the case had been closed for unknown reasons. They opened my case again but no-one contacted me for a few months. Then all of a sudden my local LDV dealership closed and there is no dealership in my vicinity. Since they first inspected by car for the small amount of rust the problem has become so much worse along with the paint falling off the roof near the top of the windscreen. Hopefully you can help me with the best way to contact LDV and sort the situation out.
If you are an Aussie that ever owned a holden between about 1960 and 1980 you should be use to rust and use to buying bog once a year or two , the good ole simple days- better probably than weird ass electronic failures, mechanical turbo wirbo problems, injector crapector issues, shitty bibs n bobs sensors sendn ya car into limp mode so as a dealer can charge a $1000 to plug a bullshit tool in to say they csnt find the fault.- gimmee a rusty LDV over that shit ( all for 20 grand less)
Capitalism can suck, us hard labourers can only afford 2nd hand utes, please rich contractors buy something decent or you will have trouble reselling Chinese crap and ultimately be selling us labourers crap. Use your head, if you are worried about the environment buy a Japanese brand or wait for the new arrival of VW collaboration with Ford. Mercedes G class is the way to go if you have money, it's made to haul weight it's rated for 2 tonne, not even the Landcruiser comes close to 2 tonne. Maybe in 15 or 20 years the Chinese will stop using recycled steel in new cars and become a wise choice
Will you get to straight to the point? I don't want a life story. Well you get what you pay for Should have spent a few more dollars and not but Chinese crap
I know you will get a lot of comments on the poor build quality of Chinese built vehicles but you may know were LDV comes from as with the Chinese built MGs it comes from the UK because it stands for Leyland Daf Vans and of course they made vans and there still British LDVs driving around but will these Chinese built LDVs still be running in 30 years time as the British built LDVs are thats something British buikd quality is better than Chinese build quality well British build quality is pretty crap what us Chinese build quality is even worse much worse don't forget most British car brands are gone because of there inferior build quality says a lot for Chinese build quality there is no quality control in China asthere is nobody to control the quality l own a 1997 Toyota Hilux ute and it has no rust issues at all and thats due to to Toyota's excellent build quality
full refund is the only acceptable outcome, im guessing LDV is the only group that would do this word gets around aussie fellas and this video (although a quality issue) is prolly 60k worth in positive advertising if you want a model recommendation, audi has galvanised panels and a Q7 3.0 diesel will prolly cost 12k at 80kph itll do 6.8L/100 115kph itll do 8.2L/100
You bought a Chinese LDV T60 & it has rust & corrosion. Why does that not surprise anyone. See if you can buy a Toyota or Nissan for $28,990 & see how you go. You get what you pay for....junk!
@@benny360 Ssangyong is a Korean brand, and they have the same suppliers as Hyundai/Kia. It's like comparing chalk and cheese. The Chinese designed and developed stuff like GWM and LDV are pure shit
Honestly pretty blown away by the outcome and how easily you achieved it. Almost feels unreal.
Keep in mind the court case they lost in QLD a year or two ago 😅
For others watching this video - my ex had a Nissan Qashqai she bought new and had 5 years warranty - it would periodically set of the CEL ( Check engine light ) and she would report this to the dealer and take it in to get repaired under warranty. She did this about 8 times in 4 years while the car was under warranty - all the dealer did was reset the light. After 4 years she forced the dealer to accept the car back under our major fault / problem laws in the ACL . The dealer initially refused so she informed Nissan of what was happening ( the dealer never contacted Nissan about the reoccurring issue ) , To keep it short she stuck to her guns armed with knowledge of Australian Consumer Law and was refunded 100% of the value of the vehicle by the dealer. She achieved this with no legal costs to lawyers ( parasites) but simply educated herself with information provided online for free from many Government departments both state and federal.
No rust issues yet after 3 years.
But battery is always flat.
Dealership said there is nothing wrong with it.
So I must be just imagining it.
Thx ldv you fuxks!
I have a mate with a 2019 t60 trailrider. Between brand new and now he’s had 2x lots of body mounts replaced, all 4 doors replaced (and is about to go back in for its second set of rear doors) and the fire wall retreated… very safe to say that they don’t mind rusting away!…
They lost a court case a couple of years ago. Same issue (rust) that's why the choose to settle and pay out
That is pretty amazing. I had a Ford and had issues and to get warranty done was unreal. Then i had a Mercedes and same scenario, warranty, what is that. Good that LDV actually stands by their warranty not like some companies
Exactly mate, mazda have been battling customers for years also denying claims. Totally unheard of for a manufacture to offer a refund.
Few years without depreciation loss is an excellent outcome.
I stand corrected. Awesome result mate I am extremely happy for you. Also helps make my next ute purchase easier. Keep up the great videos.
Thanks mate, appreciate the support!
Back in Feb found paint peeling off the Turrett on my LDV T60. Watched your vid here. On further inspection i also found rust under 1 door handle. Now 9 months later LDV have also given me a full refund!!. Corrosion issues. 4 years old and 128000km. $38860 back in my pocket. Although it took 9 months, most of this because of the dealer. Cheers for the heads up Mike.
Time is the fire in which we burn. A good outcome is one thing, but I prefer to spend a couple $ more for less wasted time and fewer headaches. Rust prevention is about the basics and if LDV can't even get the basics right ...
That's a great outcome well done.
Thanks mate, honestly didn’t think that would be the outcome.
Hey mate, I'm about to go through the same process.
Had it booked in for a service recently and the service provided came back with the following issues;
- cracked dash cluster
- aircon leak behind dash (aircon no longer works)
- leak between transfer case and gear box
- leaf springs require replacing
- leaf spring bush's require replacing
- rear left shock leaking
Paint missing along top of windshield similar to yours (no rust there..yet)
Rust in various small spots, specifically the tray
I'm booked in for the warrnt service in a few days. Would love your advice as I go through the process. If they won't fix those issues I'll be seeking a similar outcome
Vehicle is 3 years old and done 66k.
After only 66thou!? Jesus!… these Utes seem to be really hit and miss.. people either swear by them or have nothing but problems with them
Your so lucky it was still under warranty.
After the whole Timothy Rigby situation they can't afford to have that level of bad publicity again. Hence the full refund.
The court case loss in QLD with rust sure spooked them into action 😅
I have exactly the same ute and the same rust along top of windscreen. They are doing a warranty repair repainting the entire upper half of vehicle at a local paint shop.
Seems to be a lot of them. At least they are taking action I guess. They classed mine as “uneconomical to repair” then gave a full refund. I would argue that if there is rust along the windscreen then the chances of it everywhere else are very high. You don’t want to be 2 years down the track and have the bottom of the doors rusting out etc.
Yeah true. I grew up driving Holden so rust is something I see as a feature lol. As long at it holds up mechanical wise until my lease is up it will be ok.
Tx for yr post. My son had rust and paint issues after 3 years, going for warranty inspection early next month 🤞they sort
Good luck with the inspection! Hope it goes well!
no other dealership would do that. Good on LDV now that service doesnt matter you buy if there are major issues they should recognised and fixed without you having to go through crap its your hard money at the end of the day
Hi there Mike. I’ve had an absolute nightmare with my LDV T60. it’s a 2022 model model. I’ve had everything from my alternator going six months ago with my car being off the road for 6 to 8 weeks due to not having any spare alternators in the country so luckily I was able to get a higher vehicle, three months to buy my vehicle my drivers seat started fraying and LDV told me it’s normal wear and tear which I fought and they eventually replaced the upholstery months later. It’s fraying again! I bought a manual and my clutch has been nothing but a nightmare with an independent mechanic telling me that there is definitely something wrong with it and the release point was way too low. I mentioned this to LDV who inspected it and said it was normal. The clutches becomes so bad now that I sometimes can’t even get it into reverse or other gears. You pay $45,000 for a new vehicle. You expect a lot more customer service has been pathetic at both dealerships that I’ve taken it to my door handles which are the chrome doorhandles are now flaking and my event control mechanism just fell out. On top of all of that looking under my vehicle, I’ve just noticed rust which brought me to your video. it’s been an emotional rollercoaster over the past two years and almost had me giving up. I appreciate your video and any advice for me would be helpful thank you Chris.
It’s interesting. I have a LDV G10+ van and I have now got 110,000km on it. Still runs like new and it does 1000km a week. The only issue I have is not so much corrosion like you have but any stone chips sometimes lead to the paint delaminating from the steel and growing. Easy enough fix though. These vans handle incredibly well on rough windy roads and the engine with the ZF transmission is fantastic. If they sorted the paint issues these would be top notch.
I am seriously considering the My23 G10+ van for work. I am having second thoughts after reading all the negative reviews online. Your post made me consider LDV again.
It sounds like you lived near the sea there fore a bit of rust ldv is a very good vehicle I never heard of any rusting.
not near the ocean here mate, just a bad batch of them. LDV had thousands of buy backs from that year model
i just got mine yesterday.... i wish i saw this last week... i will keep you updated, i have a 2023 Max Luxe.
Hi mate, I just bought another 2 of the t60 also. Honestly for the price and warranty I’m all good, all depends on what you are wanting from a car. I can’t fault the warranty process, 10 x better than having to deal with Toyota or Mazda that’s for sure. Keep me update on your LDV journey
@@neilrissman Cheers mate i am just driving it to work around Sydney. I liked the look and the price of it. thanks Buddy.
Take the money and run before they change there mind. You did your homework, wrote a very good response to LDV which left them no choice but to offer a full refund. Now go and buy a run out Triton....
There is at least 6 deregisted from rust in our town of 10k population in last couple months all have full refunds .
At least they are coming to the party without hassle. Extremely rare from a car manufacturer/importer
Hi mike, this is a great outcome all thjngs considered. I would be interested to know what dealer you dealt with, please and what you're considering replacing it with?
Great outcome. They still tried to rip you off by offering a “market value” buy back which is clearly outside the law though. Others might not be so educated or lucky. Class action anyone?
Should have included inflation value over the time you had the Ute. The money you received is less in value.
Ford F trucks are well known for very thin paint in the USA lotsa court action . Oh yea Rangers have the same issues .
I think you'll find that most manufacturers are treading this path. I haven't come across any modern vehicles that are built to the same standards as stuff from the mid to late 90's....especially Japanese cars.
I have a 2021 Toyota Hiace van, and while it's an excellent car, the paint is way too thin and the panels are not robust enough. Very light contacts have already resulted in creases and paint chipped down to bare metal.
This is why I will never get rid of my 98 Nissan Patrol.....cars of this era were actually built to last.
Crippling for residual values for other owners, whose going to buy vehicles with known corrosion issues…worth nothing
Just ordered 1..glad I seen Ur vid..
The value of the vehicle they are using is based on national sale average, same as redbook but more broken down, most dealers have this available, it’s how we get trade in values, well how most of us get them anyway
i was going to buy the g10 for work but after all the reviews i’m staying with japan vans as i can’t afford brand new
That’s best mate, I am going to buy another ldv soon 🎉
Legend
What about the Mahindra brand
I have the 2021 model and nil rust or any issues at all.
I have 81156km on mine
Seems to be a few that do have the rust issue...I Still bought another one due to the customer service being so awesome
I would have sooner had a vehicle that didn't rust but to refund the full purchase price of the vehicle is setting an example to other manufacturers as to how to treat their customers.
Clearly not using galvanized steel panels
My 1998 Honda XR600R still has a pristine swingarm, even after years off abuse and dirty storage after a wet ride. In comparison, our Chinese bike's swingarm started rusting within one year.
@@Deontjie yeah but... Let's be honest, if you want something for half the cost... How do you save costs? Low quality parts and non galvanized metal.
@@AnarchyEnsues I can enter my old XR600R into an enduro, and we won't finish last. But I dumped my Chinese bike after three years. I could not even give it away.
Yes my car also getting #rusts within a month
good video mate
Hi Mike my LDV t60 is having the same rust and paint issues that you experienced. Just wondering if you have a contact number or someone helpful at LDV that might be able to assist me. I have taken it to my local LDV dealer and they were going to rectify the rust about a year ago. When I chased up with them why they hadn't organised the repairs they stated the case had been closed for unknown reasons. They opened my case again but no-one contacted me for a few months. Then all of a sudden my local LDV dealership closed and there is no dealership in my vicinity. Since they first inspected by car for the small amount of rust the problem has become so much worse along with the paint falling off the roof near the top of the windscreen. Hopefully you can help me with the best way to contact LDV and sort the situation out.
If you are an Aussie that ever owned a holden between about 1960 and 1980 you should be use to rust and use to buying bog once a year or two , the good ole simple days- better probably than weird ass electronic failures, mechanical turbo wirbo problems, injector crapector issues, shitty bibs n bobs sensors sendn ya car into limp mode so as a dealer can charge a $1000 to plug a bullshit tool in to say they csnt find the fault.- gimmee a rusty LDV over that shit ( all for 20 grand less)
С какоц машини тут стоит радиатор охлаждения 2.8 д.?
Haha. Full refund.....LDV is 100% in damage control
Full refund is the only way mate, I would have done the same
Still sounds like a crap car. Wouldn't buy one.
I just bought 3 more haha
Made in China
🤣😂🤣😂
"Tofu-dreg project" (Chinese: 豆腐渣工程; pinyin: dòufuzhā gōngchéng).
= Shit box vehicle.
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Capitalism can suck, us hard labourers can only afford 2nd hand utes, please rich contractors buy something decent or you will have trouble reselling Chinese crap and ultimately be selling us labourers crap. Use your head, if you are worried about the environment buy a Japanese brand or wait for the new arrival of VW collaboration with Ford. Mercedes G class is the way to go if you have money, it's made to haul weight it's rated for 2 tonne, not even the Landcruiser comes close to 2 tonne. Maybe in 15 or 20 years the Chinese will stop using recycled steel in new cars and become a wise choice
Bloody brilliant observation mate ! Will be Taking this into account on my next purchase cheers from the Plumber
Anyone who buys a Chinese car is not very smart.
Well... What were you expecting in the Wuhan virus carriage🤣.
Will you get to straight to the point?
I don't want a life story.
Well you get what you pay for
Should have spent a few more dollars and not but Chinese crap
The strong consumer protection laws in this country gave the power to be greedy bustard, your excuse to get the full price is laughable,
I know you will get a lot of comments on the poor build quality of Chinese built vehicles but you may know were LDV comes from as with the Chinese built MGs it comes from the UK because it stands for Leyland Daf Vans and of course they made vans and there still British LDVs driving around but will these Chinese built LDVs still be running in 30 years time as the British built LDVs are thats something British buikd quality is better than Chinese build quality well British build quality is pretty crap what us Chinese build quality is even worse much worse don't forget most British car brands are gone because of there inferior build quality says a lot for Chinese build quality there is no quality control in China asthere is nobody to control the quality l own a 1997 Toyota Hilux ute and it has no rust issues at all and thats due to to Toyota's excellent build quality
Nothing bad to say about them?The car is garbage otherwise no need for this video.
full refund is the only acceptable outcome,
im guessing LDV is the only group that would do this
word gets around aussie fellas and this video (although a quality issue) is prolly 60k worth in positive advertising
if you want a model recommendation, audi has galvanised panels and a Q7 3.0 diesel will prolly cost 12k
at 80kph itll do 6.8L/100
115kph itll do 8.2L/100
just absolute trash, shouldn't even be allowed to be sold in aus.
You bought a Chinese LDV T60 & it has rust & corrosion. Why does that not surprise anyone. See if you can buy a Toyota or Nissan for $28,990 & see how you go. You get what you pay for....junk!
Yeap
My Ssangyong Musso is going strong, and very little problems reported online.
Very little problems..................so far!
Get a life
@@benny360 Ssangyong is a Korean brand, and they have the same suppliers as Hyundai/Kia. It's like comparing chalk and cheese. The Chinese designed and developed stuff like GWM and LDV are pure shit
That's the risk of buying Chinese made vehicle
Thanks for this
Thanks for watching mate, hope it helps
Hey bro can you get in contact with me pls
No doubt, this fool bought another Chinese vehicle.
Nah, I bought 5 more