Episode #5: Ben Monder
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- In this conversation, Ben and I get into coffee habits, systematic practice, chordal permutation, "exhaustive" guitar players, the 24-hr practice gauntlet, the pandemic woodshed, Vipassana and meditation, "Windowpane", Devourment's new record, lessons from Paul Motian, and playing on David Bowie's final record.
Find Ben here:
benmonder.com
For the two pieces Ben mentions listening to at the same time:
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"I have no interest in appeasing the layperson" - thank you thank you thank you
This was a fantastic interview! The discussion on the lineage of "exhaustive" guitar players was really interesting and the concept of systematic practice and learning was fascinating. I also really appreciated the discussion of Ben's practice time
so glad you enjoyed, jared! thanks for listening
i've been thinking of doing a video that is a guide to exhaustive guitarists... maybe i should actually do it?
@@lambertronix You should! I'd definitely check it out!
Ben comes from "a lineage of exhausted guitar players" LOL
Ben taught me systematic learning! Thank you forever Ben!
yeah! did you study with him or what?
@@lambertronix Yep in 1991 - 1992.
@@MontyCraigdamn! would love to know more about what that was like if you don't mind sharing. i was only a few years old at the time. i love monder lore haha.
@@lambertronix you referred to Ben playing Alone Together: which recording are you referring to?
@@lambertronix plus: wonderful interview!
Thanks for interview. I had a chance to speak with Ben two years ago after a gig I saw him play with Theo Bleckmann that completely blew my mind. I was also 5 feet away from them too. Ben was super cool and we even emailed back and forth a few times in the following week as he patiently answered some guitar and musical questions I had for him. I have tried and failed many times to play some of his solo pieces; the man is on another planet entirely. I also found recently online a Thesis that deals with Ben's music and more importantly how it relates to the physical limits and ranges of the guitar. "Windowpane" is one of the pieces discussed along with "Orbits", "Double Sun" and "Oceana". Aside from the show with Theo Bleckman I also have one with him and the Donny McCaslin Quintet (just don't tell them) that is awesome. I would have been nice to hear him talk about the work he's done with Bill McHenry, as those are some of my favorite jazz records with him as a sideman. I also love hearing him play standards and pop tunes. I highly recommend too his My MusicMasterclass Jazz Guitar 1&2 videos to get more insight into his harmonic concept. It too is exhaustive! I realize too I could have put this all in one comment rather than 3 or 4 separate ones so, sorry for the multiple posts
nice! can you point me toward that thesis?
i was also shocked when i first tried playing oceana and the first 3 bars were already too much.
the monder enthusiasm makes me think i should do a video about "the email" i mention in the video and the powers of permutation and super slow tempos.
@@lambertronix The Guitar Music of Ben Monder - the UWA Profiles and ...research-repository.uwa.edu.au › files › THESIS_MASTE...
@@lambertronix I have a copy of "the paper" you mention I can't remember how I got mine but I know it was from a fellow guitarist. I have tried some of the super slow tempos things like setting the metronome to beat on just the first beat of every bar and playing eighth notes and it's quite tricky. I would welcome another Monder video too. I wish there were more live footage of him available (both video and audio). I remember years ago I came across a website that had jazz bootlegs that you could download in Mp3, and they had a lot. I wish I downloaded the one they had of the Ben trio. The first tune was "Long Ago and Far Away" and it was just like nothing I had ever heard, standard-wise. When I tried to find the site later one it had been taken down. Hearing Miles Okazaki play standards is also like that. He really gets inside of them and picks them apart. All that stuff luckily is still on his Soundcloud page (or at least it was).
@@christopherjones1649 Thanks for sharing this! Fascinating stuff!
Great interview!
Here because of your link to Mikko Hilden.
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whoa, is the person fasting or what?
I wondered the same thing about "windowpane".
haha yes!
keep it up lambo
I don't understand what he said only with RUclips's auto translation. Did he say that he likes Devourment, Portal and Gorguts? And he don't particularly like Morbid Angel? haha.
Beatiful. I can’t understand at 28’00 who he is listening to
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what else was he listening to besides the Carter and Schoenberg quartets? The last name was not clear
where is it in the interview?
oh! it's brian ferneyhough en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Ferneyhough
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Holy shit bro do u have that bootleg still?? Very cool interview by the way! I love the talk about practicing n stuff, I dont think ive ever heard Ben talk about this as much
i don't have that bootleg anymore unfortunately and i can't find it anywhere. garzone and ben together broke my brain. i'll be doing a live stream of a 24 hour monder gauntlet practice session sometime next week...
I actually do have it! shoot me your email and I can send it!
@@oliverlovekin OOOHHHH my GUY thanks so much haha Ian_k.s.e@hotmail.com plz if U have anything else Ben Monder,...... Id love to get that! Huge fan,...U know how it goes.... peace
@@oliverlovekin yoo can i hop on that?
@@isaiahsealy9127 what's your email man? I could send in the morning!
That's some heavy credentials ...
you forgot to mention his work with bassist Marc Johnson and the Right Brain Patrol
yeah that's a cool album. i miss ben's old bio on his website where he gave some odd insight into that era...
@@lambertronix Really can you share some of that?
@@zu0832 he used to have 3 bios on his website that were increasingly... colorful haha. i can't find them anywhere sadly but showed ben's sort of dark humor