Ricky Thornton Gets Fired From SSI Motorsports!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Kenny Wallace discusses Ricky Thornton parting ways with SSI Motorsports.
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Keep it up Herm!!
You are totally correct! But, I will go a little deeper. I'm 71 years old, so I have a little sperience, as Darrell Waltrip would say! LOL! All pro sports are getting out of hand with the money!! All of them were built on the backs of the common man, not the millionaires!! In this days economy, who can afford to go watch people play!! Entertainment is gotten unaffordable!! WHY? One word GREED!! I'm done. Have a great day!!
Hey WALLACE. .. you're a great guy. 😊
The problem isn't the guys who risk their well-being to compete getting more money, the problem is with the owners and other parasites who contribute nothing.
Benjamin is exactly right, do away with working class, everything else will just crumble
We always appreciate your take Kenny. You are not influenced by sponsors or money. All the other info out there has both behind them. Thank you.
The Herminator: "This is the proper area for the word f**k!" 🤣🤙🏻
The cost of dirt racing has gotten completely unaffordable!! $10K for 4 shocks, engines, tires, chassis, etc it has priced the working man out of the game. Cash Money Late Models have the right format. Spec tires, spec sealed shocks engines are open because you have to work on your shit and make it hook otherwise the high horse power doesn't do shit. This is why young people and working class people cannot afford to race. Good job Herm!! You are always entertaining.
If you want to become a millionaire racing, start as a billionaire.
Just be a top 10 driver your a million air
Alright Herman, you can’t say we all still watch nascar and act silly, some of us really don’t watch that junk anymore.
It's a general statement. First off, the world doesn't revolve around you. Second, he doesn't want to bore listing you, who he doesn't know and the other 29 people.
@@johnlafever3162 😂😂😂 man you really took time outta your day to get offended for Kenny… I’m sorry for your soft heart and weak mind. Also sorry you didn’t realize it was pun intended simply due to calling him Herman.
If it costs too much to DO…you can’t keep it going. It does all come down to money. Sponsors don’t involve themselves unless they make money, whether in the hand, or through volume by advertising and THAT is hard to measure. Thanks for speaking up, Herman!
All dirt racing divisions and I’m sure other racing are all crazy exspensive these days! It’s getting harder and harder! Costs are outrageous
Mr you're spot on. Even the little annoying front wheel drive stuff has gotten expensive.
The economy is out of hand, the inflation is out of control. Day to day life has doubled, that’s the problem here.
I agree 100% i seen the exact same thing happen in 2008-2016 with Obama no one could afford to travel racing was a hurting back then as well
Yup, you said what I was going to say. And you see how bad things are getting and it's going to get much worse before November! Even Hooters can't afford their deal with Hendricks. Every single Dat another company is going into bankruptcy. There have been more business bankruptcy filings in the past 3 years than any time in history. And it started the moment biden killed the pipeline deals. When he signed that executive order he instantly put 1 million people out of work. That was in his first couple hours in the Whitehouse. It's been a steady flow of bankruptcy after bankruptcy since.
@@TroyHanson-ch6nmwe are living in Obama’s third term.
I can't barely make it to the next week
The way I understood Mark Richards talking about the Hudson deal, was Hudson came to him and told him he was going to start his own team and Mark said if your leaving at the end of the season you might as well leave now.
The cost of running any business these days is out of control. Thanks for keeping it real Herman
What more could SSI want from a driver? This one will likely bite them on the ass. Wishing the best for RTJ in his new ride whoever it is for even if it is for Bloomer. 😂😂😂😂
He's running a Shepherd car this weekend.
Word is SSI is scaling back.
Bloomer can't afford to field his own car
It seems to mirror NHRA pro stock in a sense. 10 or so years ago they couldn’t have a full field b/c of the engine/yearly cost, the series was in trouble.
They fixed it with 10.5k rpm limits. Return on investment definitely has to be there in order for sustainment
Can you call RTJ and find out what really happened and do a quick update for us? Always appreciated 😊
no he can't
No he can’t…. It’s a respect thing….dont go putting your nose in somebody’s business…especially a friends business….
@@chrishodapp1962 we all know its about the mighty $$$$$
So true. Cost have escalated over the last couple of decades to operate a successful late model. It’s crazy expensive
The problem is outside of a few races a year there aren’t many big paydays…. Teams go out and get the best motors, transmissions, shocks and every other part you can think of. The problem is when it’s all said and done you will be in the hole even if you won every race you ran in. These teams are trying to treat dirt like it’s NASCAR and it’s no where close to the same beast. Sponsorship will not buy you
a winning car because it can’t, and there isn’t enough money to be won. I don’t see how these drivers and teams do it.
Super late models have been way overpriced for the last 15 years if not longer. 90's and before your weekend warriors could compete and afford to have a chance at the best whenever they showed up to a local track for a big payout.
You're absolutely right Kenny it's to expensive we won Championships at spoon river and was doing it outta pocket and just couldn't do it anymore back in the late 80s so we ended up selling out. I've tried working with a few different teams and the expense is just crazy for what a feature pays.🏁🇺🇸🏁👍🙏
I raced at spoonriver occasionally in 99-2000 done very well in a super latemodel things at that time was getting expensive a 434cid at 750hp was serious money and then unless you was willing to put new tires on before every feature you didn't have a chance it all ended when I needed a new chassic and sponsor didn't want to help out. It takes 2 things a good car and a good driver that has the balls to drive it.
Completely accurate. Dirt racing is too expensive at all levels. Sorry to see RTJ out of job. He’s got loads of talent. I’m confident he’ll land on his feet.
Herman you are 100% right! Just like we talked about Nascar in 06, if you don't have your own sponsor committed to you, you're done. Not too many have hundreds of thousands to spend a year on racing.
Really enjoy your videos of this nature. Giving behind the scenes of how a team runs, the costs, sponsors etc. it’s all really interesting coming from someone who just watches and no real knowledge of it. Well done Chief more of this topic please!!
Kenny , we love you no matter how you hold your arm man! Thank you buddy!
Your house seems super peaceful and i love how far away your neighbors are.
how would you fix it ? Is to go to spec and seal parts? is it to reduce the number
of races? During the summer months there are 4-5 races a week,
One of those Sugar Daddies has approached SSI with some money but it come with an asterisk, a certain someone had to be behind the wheel. Long story short, a certain driver has some deep pockets backing him and he wanted that ride. That’s my opinion, money talks and bullshit walks.
Rumor is that SSI is going through an immediate scale back.
Money use to buy speed....how fast u wanna go....now money buys a seat....what size do u need?
You can hold your coffee cup any way you wish. Love the videos! 😆
I think many of these dirt tracks would be very smart to sponsor your podcast to help drive up attendance and help find a new audience
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It really got bad on the money side back in 2008 right when you started to see the Dillon boys come into it. It was because of the bodies and alot of tech from NASCAR came into it and then you also saw alot of the engines start to come from RCR, ROUSH YATES, and other well known people. I live by Eldora Speedway and will say this once the big money came in it went down. A World 100 gets 108 cars now and in 2007 they got 203 cars we competed in it. It was $45 for the weekend Friday and Saturday and now its $120 for a 3 day pit pass. And it used to cost us camping there with food and all and pit passes gas, tires and a $25 entry fee $650 for the weekend now its $3,000 when you race 3 days. In 2007 we got $150 for not making the feature and had 20 laps on the car. Now we have 3 nights and we get total $800 and spend $3,000. We went backwards.
So true
@@alfee9411 Yep but the racers did it to themselves. Also UMP should have grown balls and said the bodies need to stay at xyz and the engines need to be xyz and let it go and not have it where money is going to buy whatever. Shocks should not cost what they cost. Nascar has found out and yet people defend them.
Northeast dirt modifieds are heading in the same direction with the late model motors we run !! Big small blocks and the 18 degree big block are making it extremely hard to compete . We have one of the best engine packages you can buy by one of the best engine builders in the country. We need to reel it in !
The background looks awesome Kenny nice property 👍
Racing in general is expensive!
All classes up dirt track racing is getting out of hand the cost from Kenny to another Kenny you're absolutely right but it goes deeper
Well said! Throwaway chassis and 60-80k engines PLUS all the newest chassis parts available will price all but a handfull out of the SLM class.
I kind of think the same thing where Hudson O'Neill and Ricky Thornton Jr are winning so much money with their driving that they're making more than the people that put the cars on the track. Just my opinion
Maybe you have but if not, I’d like to see you do a video on Hunt The Front!
Uncle Herman, I totally agree with the cost of engines. Would like to hear your take on the cost of USAC sprint racing. You know, where they pay a whole 5K or 6K to win a normal show. Oh, and in this day and age they can fix the arm and you wont look like a teabagger!
He's won every fucking race!! Perfectly said kenny love your opinions and knowledge of racing. It very appreciated to us real racing fans
Is Expense/Risk vs Return also reason Matt Shepard, Stewart Friesen maybe a few others, have not tried Late Models despite NE Modified divison success in DIRT/SuperDIRT/STSS?
15 years ago, I was told by a top team, it cost $1000 to unload the car. Whatever else happens tonight, it’s $1000 to roll it out of the trailer. How much does it cost now?
I think the separation with RTJ and SSI was to do with Burns wanting a 2 car team and RTJ wasn’t gonna teammate with Hudson
Love hearing the herm talk about raceing
You’re exactly right. I thought it had to money related as soon as I saw the post Sunday night that they split.
I love the way that you tell it like it is!! I think all racing is in trouble. The sky’s not falling today but it’s slowly creeping down on us! Keep up the great videos Herman!! By the way I don’t hate NASCAR!! Lol
Kenney not that you need any more of a to do list but, I think a lot of us would like to know more about the Engineering aspect of the high end Dirt Late Model. Are the teams just buying expensive parts and bolting them on or are they modifying parts in house to change factory geometries etc. to gain the advantage? Thanks for putting up with us.
Herm you crack me up daily. When I need a good laugh I watch you. Never fails!
The owner of SSI motorsports has lost his mind firing Ricky unless Hudson O'Neal is bringing a boat load of $ (sponsorship) to SSI for to get the drivers seat of a race winning car! Scott Bloomquist said during his interview after his car was wrecked at Eldora it was a big financial setback for his team & owner. That's saying the car frame & all the parts & pieces are really expensive now to replace not too mention their was probably a $60,000 motor in the car too.
New to channel, know nothing about dirt racing, last Nascar interest was era of David Pierson and team with some brothers that had Ford stuff, but enjoy this intel about state of Nascar and dirt. Currently follow F1, but the street racing is pretty entertaining from what little I have seen. Wallace here seems to be an entertaining truth teller with a sense of humor.
King Herman tells the truth, always
I agree with you, Kenny I’ve been watching it for years and every year the prices keep going up and up and up. It’s two point now where you gotta think about it is it the driver? Is it the equipment? Is it the money in the engines don’t give me wrong. There’s a lot of good drivers and super late model, but you know the sun shines on any dogs ass every now and then
If you want to reduce cost?spec tire, no grinding ,no siping ,no grooving,hard compound. No spoilers. 50/50 oil shocks. Hate me if you want.
I would say RTJ wanted more pay, and Hud will be driving the car.
🏁Super Late Model racing must go to a crate type motor if they want more drivers and sponsors to help bring the costs down. Car owners can't keep losing their asses even when their drivers are winning.🏁
Never happen crates already have their deal.
Hahaha Do you understand what they do with "crate" motors? Plus what they do to tge rest of the car?
Um... That thought process has already happened. How do you think we have 604 and 602 crates!? Crates were supposed to save weekly racing 20 years ago and guess what? Weekly late model racing is right back where it was 25 years ago because racers are our own worst enemy. Yeah you can buy a crate but then you're spending big money on bolt on parts, light weight gears, and a shock package that's stupidly overpriced, and junking lm40s every week because Hoosier/Contentantial won't build a decent tire. The weekend warrior is right back in 100k range while racing for 1,000 to 2,500 to win and maybe 100 bucks to start.
@@ClarkBoyzRacing right. An open late model is actually cheaper than the best crate everywhere but the engine. Don't forget the crazy fire suppression they have not to mention everyone needs a giant trailer with a toterhome. A local guy, Chub Frank, started his traveling career with a chevy Suburban and an open trailer.....
As Always Thanks For Sharing ❤
They need to go back to 90s style bodies and do away with the aero bodies, spec motors and limit tire compounds. There are no Supers running weekly in East Tennessee any longer. There used to be so many they had to run B Mains every week.
And Kenny is right super late model dirt cars cost a damn fortune to build and definitely a fortune to run, even if it’s every other weekend or twice a month but for sure if you run one every weekend and then ever so often during the week in between but it’s the same as NHRA drag racing and it’s becoming a rich man’s hobby because the money is really good when they win some of these dirt races but the cost of a Super Late Model operation is crazy expensive to do it
At about 4:30 I became fascinated with the sweet little dogs in the background and forget every word. Had to rewind. Ha!
Hell the whole world is out of control with pricing and or cost
you are 100% right Thank you Mr Kenny
Kenny,I think you nailed it.I can only come up with the conclusion that those two drivers wanted to much money to drive those cars.Just my thought, love your videos brother.
I have issues 1:04 with my elbow/bicep from holding tools. I understand what you are talking about holding things funny.
All true. Things they can do, unpopular? Yeah. 1. Single tire compound soft or hard doesn't matter pick 1. 2. Engines costing what they cost. Everyone has to make $, 50k+ for 1 engine 10k+ to rebuild. Which is way too high in my opinion. 3. Shocks/spring packages tons of $ too. There could be regulations set in place that I would hope WOO & Lucas Oil could get together and to have the same package of regulations. Most big features the engine doesn't win you the race.( A running one helps) Set up and tires do. I don't ever want to see a crate in any top class. It's a top class for a reason. Maybe a spec engine option that's 30-40k would help. Just throw ideas out. I don't complain unless I have solutions right or wrong, but, regardless racing is expensive at every level. Especially if you wreck a lot.
Wow 102,000 and growing 😮
I hate to say it but there needs more opportunity for local guys to run with the Super Lates guys. The car counts could be a lot higher with higher payouts.
BBRRRAAANDUN SHEPARD has given the RT a ride at least for today at the Flo Racing LM at Lincoln
Bshepp good people
Absolutely correct Brandon Shepherd and his family are good people and I look for Ricky Thornton to possibly drive the Longhorn for Kevin Rumley for a little while but I still got this little bit of a feeling that he could wind up at rocket when it’s all said and done at some point
No he didn’t his dad did
I would say money fo sure but I would like to see him get into one of stormys late models that car got a ton of potential for his driving style
As someone that owns a usra limited modified and races. It’s always been an inside joke between us drivers. We tell each other all the time if you want to be a millionaire racing start out racing as a billionaire. I have sponsors just like everyone else but alot still comes out of my back pocket. All of us dirt racers do this for fun and sacrifice a lot to make this happen. Me personally it’s just me my wife and kids at the track and working on the car. It’s all about the family fun for us. I popped 2 motors a year last year and already popped one this year. There was a time me and my wife actually had to set down to decide to sell my own bass boat just to fund another motor. But you are absolutely right I think alot of the drivers loose there ride over money. The cost upkeep and broken parts just isn’t out weighing the winnings. So most car owners go searching other places to try and better those odds. Sometimes it pays off sometimes it shoots them in the foot.
Can ALWAYS count on Herman to speak the truth.
Its not just super late models.. at the beginning of the year outlaw sprints teams were saying is 12-15k just to get the car to the track. Not including tires fuel and whatever else breaks. Its turned into a pay to win sport
Pevely pays $1,500 at a regular night. A Mods are little less i do believe. A motor at $10,000 is a great loss. A late Model motor is about $50,000 like you said. I know the fans love the smoke or a big wreck but the cost can really put a team/ driver out thease days fast. Thorton, is a hell of a driver that sucks to hear
Well I absolutely think you are correct on this one Herm. I race out 2 local tracks and absolutely dominate both. One track told me to never come back with my imca mad because it's too good too fast! As I've told you I traded that car turn key for a turn key winged sprint and haven't raced at either local track so someone else can win. I've got other mods I can race if I want to and my kid is in one of them and he does pretty good at our 2 local tracks! Money its all about money! Money buys speed there's no doubt. Shocks alone 600 apiece and as you know that's not even buying the best!
Hey Kenny, Do you think this opens RTJ for a run at the high limit racing? Or will he stay in Dirt Late model racing?
That would be cool if someone offered him a high limit ride. Would help high limit's gate too.
Keep it coming Kenny , Love your Show !!!
Hold the coffee up Kenny! Hell with the complaints! Love the show!
Your right, it's to costly for a self owned business
Do what ever is necessary to tame the "overhead costs monster" Be proud of the journey that has brought you to where you are now.
If you guys are spending that kind of money on your mod motors that's out of HAND!
80k for a super engine, 1500 laps it goes for a 20k rebuild.
It takes between 5-7k just to bring 1 car to the track for 1 race.
Kenny is not wrong. The only teams doing any good have a $500/hr shock engineer working for them.
I remember hearing back in the 90's about Gary Wright winning a lot in a sprint car and got fired. Supposedly that race team was a write off for the car owner's company? I'm not a business man but, is that a tax issue???
Love u Man U keep it real across the board
kenny you are 100 percent right
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Word on the street is that Lucas Oil is contemplating getting out of the Late Model Dirt Series business because they're hemorrhaging money. Does that mean that World of Outlaws absorb all the drivers if LOLMDS goes away? I don't know. But I have heard the same talk about lots of teams/people having big money problems in dirt late model racing.
The proper area for the word F. 😂😂😂😂
Well said my friend
Man I love this guy 😂 1:38
Not into that dirt late model is the greatest crowd, much prefer nonwing, wing sprints, USAC midgets over the bodywork dirt cars. And I don't even watch Nascar anymore. The engine costs are high on open wheel stuff as well. Open wheel dirt is awesome, but they have the same issue, less purse, and expensive engines.
80k for a super engine, 1500 laps and then a 20k rebuild.
Not sure who your buying from but that's way out there. You can get a new Clements for 60K, Now grant you the wait list is a year out, Durham is the same, but the wait is not as long.
@@Ever443 Vic Hill and many more are 80k, sure they sell small super engines for 60k, but for a big engine they are 80k.
I'm not a race car driver myself, just a spectator. I like my NASCAR and I like my dirt track racing all the same. It kinda hurts though to seeing your #1 driver getting let go every season because they can't afford to race even though they have multiple wins. I wish I knew of a solution to the problem, but I don't. I'll sleep on it in the meantime, and maybe I'll have you something tomorrow, I doubt it though. lol!
This was a great coffee 🙏
Well I feel you are right about the super are really high but as your coffee cup so every can see the family cup
Forget racing on this one, look how well maintain your yard work is..Great Mowing Kenny..RTJ will land on his feet running..
I love both dirt racing and nascar racing but yeah dirt is expensive as hell
Good for you Kenny 👍
As you know Dirt Super Late Model racing has reached the extreme in terms of the cost to field a winning team. The glass ceiling on expenses has been broken in this classification. The availability of top nautch sponsorship funding is extremely tight in this economy. Team crew members have very high expectations in terms of salary and benefits. Drivers who are winners come with a big price tags. All of the expenses related to team travel are out of sight. And track promotions are suffering, as track owners struggle to bring the fans to the tracks each week. The big dirt series purses are lacking or at least falling short the further you go down in the finishing order. Hermon your exactly right the cost of Super Late Model racing has reached a tipping point.
I am a kayak fishing pro. Getting sponsored was easy not only with equipment and money. Now it is difficult. The elites will get it. I walked away from a couple sponsors because they still wanted their name on my vessel but with limited funding. All about money these days
Sad because less competition in Lucas Oil Series