@@Titot182 one of the main goals of mixing is to ensure it sounds balanced across a range of listening devices, from studio monitors to the cheapest earbuds.
@@dave_clarke handheld media consumers can't be saved, in that case. Because we all know that phone speakers take every bit of fidelity out of the equation. I'll pour out a trail beer for our fallen brethren
100% agree. I don’t have an Evo but I also agree it’s just a visually better looking bike. I would argue, just as capable as well being that it’s been out longer.
Probably nice indeed, but not even close vs EVO both in terms of value or adjustability (Cascade link + WRP YOKE) especially for the gravity oriented crowd. EVO was just THAT good and still is.
When you put the Stumpy 15 and Enduro side by side, the frames look almost identical. Just different shock location. Looks great I think. The old sidearm was a unique feature but the new frame looks tidy too.
The Stumpjumper Evo is super linear to begin with. The stock shock is linear too. The only way to make it progressive is put a bigger spacer in it. Or in mixed wheel set it up with a WRP YOKE and Cascade LINK. For a full 29er, add Cascade link for more progression to bottom out. I just hope years down the road I'll be able to get an EVO frame. I love my EVO.
Here comes Cascade Components to the rescue to offer a link for 150mm of Rear Wheel Travel. :D Insert a 160mm Fork and Wha la, you got the Stumpy EVO 2. :D
Or stick with a EVO and insert cascade link for 155mm rear travel. Or, WRP Mullet yolk, cascade link, 170mm fork, low flip chip, 63.5 head cup. For a Enduro Racing DH shredding EVO. Sorry, but the new Stumpjumper is still limited.
My take is it's just the bike industry consolidating to push profits. Rather than having the SJ and the SJ evo mode they just now have one That's kind of in the middle. Same reason 27.5 was killed off. Fox only has to make one fork and the frames can be made for 29 or mullet rather than 27.5 specific. Is this in the consumer's interest? Nope, is it in the bike industry's interest? Probably is if you're a manufacturer
Ewww. If previous Stumpy Evo came out later than the new one, according to the same graph at 1:30 it'll be marketed as "same small bump sensitivity with much better mid-stroke support!" ( Evo achieving this with less negative air volume) Thanks but no thanks I'm sticking with my Stumpy Evo
I don't think the headset adjustment is really necessary. It doesn't hurt but I'd rather just have a 64.5 degree HA and over fork it if I wanted something slacker.
It's not really adding anything onto the production cost though. You have a flip chip for a top cup and you're good to go. I wouldn't be surprised if more bike companies do this because there is no drawback to it
You're probably the worst possible height for one of these because you're right at the edge of S3 and S4. Measure your legs and your ape index, if they are short you might like the S3 more, if you're over length, probably S4. You can fine tune the fit to a degree. I'm 5'10 with a negative half ape and the S3 with a 760 bar and 40 mm stem fits great. Would not want to go s4 unless I was a minimum inch or two taller with a wider ape index
I am also 5-11 with average to longish arms and legs and I ride an s4 in the evo. I believe the geo is pretty much the same for the 25. I feel like this is the best and very balanced size. I could go up or down. The steep seat tube makes it feel like a shorter bike when pedaling, but just ride to thrash around when descending and jumping. The retul fitting tool on specialized website actually recommended an s5, but I am glad I went with the 4. Stable at high speeds but still poppy and fairly nimble. S4 is probably the safest bet for your height if you can’t test ride. Stumpy is Still an awesome platform! Good luck!
I think it's the opposite, it killed off the shorter travel one with the flex stays...this IS the EVO? what the hell? Your main point isn't even right.
The backing track is too loud compared to the voice over
2mins in and my eardrums are shot. Pity, maybe the rest of the vid was good.
Depends what you're listening on. Sounded well mixed through my Adam T7Vs
@@Titot182 one of the main goals of mixing is to ensure it sounds balanced across a range of listening devices, from studio monitors to the cheapest earbuds.
@@dave_clarke handheld media consumers can't be saved, in that case. Because we all know that phone speakers take every bit of fidelity out of the equation. I'll pour out a trail beer for our fallen brethren
Glad it's not just me.
But old frame is more beautiful with this one side frame
I’ll stay with my 23 evo. I’m not a pro so won’t notice any difference apart from cost
Great review but your music audio is too loud, much like every other RUclips review. Y'all are deafening us earbud users 😅
I got the stumpjumper evo pro for 3.999€ instead of 8.000€, I love it and think it looks better than the new one here
100% agreed
100% agree. I don’t have an Evo but I also agree it’s just a visually better looking bike. I would argue, just as capable as well being that it’s been out longer.
Probably nice indeed, but not even close vs EVO both in terms of value or adjustability (Cascade link + WRP YOKE) especially for the gravity oriented crowd. EVO was just THAT good and still is.
Wireless derailleur compatible ONLY!? Big fail by specialized!!
When you put the Stumpy 15 and Enduro side by side, the frames look almost identical. Just different shock location. Looks great I think. The old sidearm was a unique feature but the new frame looks tidy too.
The Stumpjumper Evo is super linear to begin with. The stock shock is linear too. The only way to make it progressive is put a bigger spacer in it. Or in mixed wheel set it up with a WRP YOKE and Cascade LINK. For a full 29er, add Cascade link for more progression to bottom out.
I just hope years down the road I'll be able to get an EVO frame. I love my EVO.
Is the new shock better than an air shock with a piggy back?
Wireless only drivetrain is a step backwards for mountain biking. Let the people decide what they want to run.
One thing i know, old Stumpjumper was way better looking. The new one looks just like a bigger Epic Evo. What's the point?
Thanks for the report. The Stumpy is now way more than most need for a trail bike. Maybe the Epic evo is now their trail bike?
Here comes Cascade Components to the rescue to offer a link for 150mm of Rear Wheel Travel. :D Insert a 160mm Fork and Wha la, you got the Stumpy EVO 2. :D
Or stick with a EVO and insert cascade link for 155mm rear travel. Or, WRP Mullet yolk, cascade link, 170mm fork, low flip chip, 63.5 head cup. For a Enduro Racing DH shredding EVO.
Sorry, but the new Stumpjumper is still limited.
@@waynelenderman1115158 rear travel
What would your recommended tyre choice front and rear?
Could you do a comparison between the genie shock vs a normal shock or even the Öhlins coil
Will there be shorter wheelbase and less travel version?
Is it really ditching the side arm not impacting strength or stiffness?
Music is too loud @bikeRadar
My take is it's just the bike industry consolidating to push profits. Rather than having the SJ and the SJ evo mode they just now have one That's kind of in the middle. Same reason 27.5 was killed off. Fox only has to make one fork and the frames can be made for 29 or mullet rather than 27.5 specific. Is this in the consumer's interest? Nope, is it in the bike industry's interest? Probably is if you're a manufacturer
The evo isn't dead. I still have mine
Specialized paid us this much to make this advert....
Yea this video reeks of a paid advert
Ewww. If previous Stumpy Evo came out later than the new one, according to the same graph at 1:30 it'll be marketed as "same small bump sensitivity with much better mid-stroke support!" ( Evo achieving this with less negative air volume) Thanks but no thanks I'm sticking with my Stumpy Evo
Everything is 99% the current EVO.
what do ypu think about the orbea onna?
A great question! Head to BikeRadar.com for a full review: www.bikeradar.com/reviews/bikes/mountain-bikes/orbea-onna-10-review
~ Will
So when are they bring out the alloy version so us normal people can buy?
There are still plenty of carbon evos on close out, why bother with a heavy aluminum entry level version of the new one?
I don't think the headset adjustment is really necessary. It doesn't hurt but I'd rather just have a 64.5 degree HA and over fork it if I wanted something slacker.
It's not really adding anything onto the production cost though. You have a flip chip for a top cup and you're good to go. I wouldn't be surprised if more bike companies do this because there is no drawback to it
Hey can I ask how tall are you and what would you recommend for a 5’11 /180cm dude looking for a nimble/balanced rig?
You're probably the worst possible height for one of these because you're right at the edge of S3 and S4. Measure your legs and your ape index, if they are short you might like the S3 more, if you're over length, probably S4. You can fine tune the fit to a degree. I'm 5'10 with a negative half ape and the S3 with a 760 bar and 40 mm stem fits great. Would not want to go s4 unless I was a minimum inch or two taller with a wider ape index
I am also 5-11 with average to longish arms and legs and I ride an s4 in the evo. I believe the geo is pretty much the same for the 25. I feel like this is the best and very balanced size. I could go up or down. The steep seat tube makes it feel like a shorter bike when pedaling, but just ride to thrash around when descending and jumping. The retul fitting tool on specialized website actually recommended an s5, but I am glad I went with the 4. Stable at high speeds but still poppy and fairly nimble. S4 is probably the safest bet for your height if you can’t test ride. Stumpy is Still an awesome platform! Good luck!
What happened to the side arm?
Like, really... ;)
It had to go to make room for the new fatter shock
I think I’d stick with the Evo
I would rather buy the old evo. At least you can have traditional gearing
Well at least its not ugly anymore with that connect bar
Would y'all please rerelease this without the BGM? Thanks, I couldn't make it past a minute and a half. It's absolutely horrid.
Can we just buy the shock? 😅
I think it's the opposite, it killed off the shorter travel one with the flex stays...this IS the EVO? what the hell? Your main point isn't even right.
so, they killed the bike by making it more comfortable to ride?
Specialized has has had evo frames on closeout for 1/2 on aluminum, 43% off on carbon and for a year and cant sell them.
Looks pretty nice.
Not a specialized fan but this looks great
Lose the background music
Overrated shock!