Theory: Goalie Pockets
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I used a very similar pattern on an Eclipse I just strung with 12D ECMblack for one of my team's goalies. The pocket came out looking almost exactly the same as that one and I'm really proud of it since it was my first time. He loves it. Kudos to the awesome stringability of your mesh, stringing it up was no problem even with my lack of experience with goalie heads.
Nick Jackson Thanks Nick! We are happy it was a helpful for you.
Goalie stick in field are SOO MUCH different than box sticks
Yes I have played goalie for 5 years and no goalie mesh has even come close to beating your mesh
Can you make a quad sidewall tutorial please????
Hey Greg, nice pockets you’ve strung! I used to use hard 12d mesh in my high school days and loved it, never found it difficult to work with and it would break in after a day and last a whole season, I like the new era of mesh but it’s a bit pricey. So I believe you misspoke, 20d gives you less feel of the ball, less control, and less rebound control when compared to 12d. the wider the diamonds are, the more the ball sits into them giving you that feel and control. The advantage to 20d is that it throws better/you can get it out of your stick faster. Also, rebound control is more due to the players hands and arms than the stick itself. I think your 20d pocket is a lot better than the 12d so maybe it felt that way to you. Just figured id give you some feedback out of love for the game and position.
I have strung endless amounts of goalie heads through my high school and college days. Over my high school career, I was constantly making stringing adjustments every day for my own stick. I experimented with all sorts of unconventional methods of stringing and have learned through trial and error what is optimal. Your pockets are pretty darn nice but I keep seeing poorly strung goalie pockets from “professional stringers” all over Instagram which inspired me to come out of retirement and start stringing proper goalie heads again. Thanks for making this vid to discuss this topic. I think most people are approaching stringing a goalie head like it’s a field head, which is sort of a mistake. Usually I see tennis racket pockets, overly channeled pocket, pockets too deep that will throw straight down…etc because they don’t understand what it’s like to use one. I don’t think what you said about pulling and stringing the top of the sidewall tight, bunching the mesh in the middle, then puling the lower portion tight, is the best way to conceptualize it. My beliefs are that you want to leave the mesh a bit less pulled down at the top then basically string 1i the entire way down with one 2i/double up or none with 12d mesh. I’m not sure if I got that nomenclature correct, but I hope you understand. Also I learned that brian Phipps uses old school side wall meaning you run a sidewall string upward skipping all the holes and going thru the top hole, spiraling down from there and that was the difference maker. It allows the pocket to shift more to absorb shots more effectively, places the ball right where it needs to be to throw an outlet, handles the ball better by adjusting more to have the ball sit firmly centered in the sweet spot without any rattle when handling matters outside the crease or going coast to coast. I think all goalies need and deserve a pocket that can do it all. My page is precision pockets on ig if anyone wants to contact me. I will have to do a walkthrough stringing video in the future.
Thanks again
-Brian
Brian,
Thanks for the feedback! I totally agree there are a lot people out there who try but don't always succeed as they are new to the craft. We love to see that more and more players each year are taking a stab at learning the tricks of the trade. I think the entire community would love more content when it comes to goalie pockets if you created some tutorials.
greg your mesh is great, i currently use 12d mesh and have for a year or two, still great
Hey Greg, I'm trying to string my own goalie head for the first time, I have some 17D mesh and the head is an STX Eclipse. I have strung one head ever, a defensive head, so I'm out of my element here. Any tips or techniques you can recommend, or any good videos I can take a look at? Thanks so much.
Greg you should do a stringing tutorial on a warrior void goalie head before fall season. That would be awsome because I just can't find a way to string it up
Stacked si's give a deep pocket, but also keep the channel really tight
great video greg. i agree with most parts, but I feel for the first part couple holes of the sidewall, I interlock but I don't interlock too tight because I still want to have rebound control. So I try and find a perfect middle between too tight and too loose.
Solid video. Good information. You really helped me string my goalie stick. Keep it up.
If the idea is to narrow the mesh with multiple sidewall strings, this would add weight to the head, especially on a rainy game.
My suggestion is to run a tight nylon or a leather down each side of the mesh and use crosslace strung like a traditional pocket on each side. This will narrow the mesh and create extra depth with less weight, even if the weight difference is marginal.
The only problem with not doing the Us/Vs is that the pocket can get deformed and the Us/Vs maintain it a little better
if you are considering this offer please string it up with 15mm east coast mesh. thank you greg!
do a tutorial on goalie top strings
I can see if we can do something like that check out this video for the mean time
ruclips.net/video/OpW2fmjlECg/видео.html
What's the difference between your goalie ECM black and reg 12 d
Can you please please please do a goalie sidewall tutorial. It would help me and many other goalies improve our stringing so much!!!! Please please please consider it
Thanks
I use a headline or nemy 2 with a goal x topstring, with 12d throne or hard jima mesh 12d. I don't use east coast mesh just because I like the shape of ss diamonds. Tip ECD use jimalax as a base mesh
No
I dont use that any more, i use an stx eclipse with 17d hard mesh
excellent theory vid and long overdue. I send mine to goaliestrings but I agree with everything you said. GoalieStrings doesn't recommend the quad sidewall for all heads/pockets. His take is more that every head and the intended pocket dictate a string pattern.
Still no love for the nemi users out there😫
Foster Coughlin yep. I'm a nemi user and it's the best in my opinion
Do one on shifty pockets
I like to use the shooting string for the bottom string. I feel it is more doorable
Greg can you please post a video on how to string a mid pocket on a warrior burn, i just bought one it arrived today with east coast mesh and i would like to string it properly with your help! please direct message me with your thoughts. the warrior burn is a brand new head you should make a stringing tutorial !
Are you going to be at the games this weekend Greg?
You should do a goalie pocket replica tutorial for like Johnny Rodriguez,Brett Queener, Adam ghitelman
Cant forget about John Galloway
Any chance you could offer a few tips on stringing up a Warrior Wall for Box?
ruffnecklax I am not a goalie head specialist, but I know there are some great goalie head stringers out there!
hey greg i know this has nothing to do with goalie heads but my 2 game heads are a warrior evo 4 and a warrior m80. and i was wondering if u could put up a stringing tutourial sometime soon on my 2 heads
Amanda Shields We will see what we can do!
Greg please make a tutorial on lyle thompsons pocket for his noz x please
Hey Greg, as of now. I have a Void Lyte, a Maverik Base, and an Eclipse. Could you please do a pattern for one of those heads ? I already saw your old pattern for the eclipse but maybe just an updated pattern. Also, can you do a tutorial for a Quad or an Open sidewall or maybe give me a link or an idea on where I could get one? Thanks.
Calvin Gordon we will see what we can do!
East Coast Dyes thanks so much
Can you make a tutorial for a stx professor high pocket
Every week and still no theory Thursday on Faceoff stringing/pockets
Next week!
And also which will have a better rebound and throw. The hero or wax
JSC Trickshots hero
Greg can you make a video on begginer goalie heads?
Can you do a tutorial for a quad sidewall and a regular sidewall?
Can u make some faded color mesh for goalie like the colors you have for middie mesh
I only use ECM black when stringing goalie mesh really flaky
Greg, I have regular 12D ECM and i just can't seem to string it to get it to throw without a TON of whip. Any tips?
make your pocket a little bit smaller and don't double up as much. try to make the channel going through the whole stick and not have the channel abruptly cut off in the middle of the stick.
Can you do a video of what goalie gear is the best like the chest pads and head
Thank you
LAX BRO I will put that on the to do list
Does anyone have a good pattern for a 12d eclipse?
Do a quad sidewall tutorial please!
My pocket shifts low and turns into a bowl, what should I do to fix this?
Brandon 111 you could do a couple things. You got move the side walls up a hole to move the pocket up, or you could move the bottom string up a row of diamonds to move the pocket up. Id suggest trying the bottom string first.
Ok Thanks.
hey man I need some help, I have a Maverik Base with 20D ECM and I strung it myself, my first goalie string, and it has a really really tight channel and a small pocket. but... it can't throw to save its life. it goes right into the ground, it hits me in the feet. how do I change that?
Probably too much whip bro
Try to put in a quad sidewalk if you know how
Yeah, there is a tutorial on the lacrosse goalie forums. The head is super wide, so I doubt if just doing mesh to the sidewall will work. Unless you beat it out...(not the best idea).
Theory on quad sidewalls please!!
thomasmadine We will see if we can fit it in!
Will you be making east coast hero mesh for goalies or colored waxed mesh?
+JSC Trickshots We make colored wax mesh and Hero goalie will be dropping this summer!
+East Coast Dyes will the heromesh be 12 diamond or 20 diamond?
hey Greg my coach has two heads for box goalie one looked like the heads in the video and one was like a triangle what would you recommend
I'm not sure as I never played box or goalie so I can't give a good answer on that
So hard 😤
I'm a goalie and love ECD mesh
What's your favorite piece?
I need help learning how to string goalie heads. I have the Under Armor Headline
Sean Rhodes I woudl check out Goalie Strings goaliestrings.weebly.com/
try 20d throne of string. it is best
Do you have a tutorial for the first 12d head
Do a warrior zoo stringing tutorial
Your mesh is what I use
That's whats up!!!
Hey greg, I was wondering which head to get the void lyte or the maverick base. I am using the eclipse right now but it is to flex u for me but I am still looking for a somewhat light head.
A Oxi Out of those two, I would try the Base
Personally I would use a void it really light and super stiff
East Coast Dyes all about that void lyte
+A Oxi Don't do that to yourself. I'd get a void.
Is there a traditional goalie head
Idk that would be kind of cool to see one strung up
Creighton college boy
Does East Coast Dyes only sell goalie mesh?
+TheSnazzyComputer we do indeed. we have some on our website
+GerMehCake is that a joke "only goalie mesh", have u ever seen this channel before
What's the best pocket for attack
The ones that hold the ball ;)
A high pocket
what is better 12d or 20d?
+Madison Schmitz Neither but I use12d
I got an eclipse for 42 dollars
I found a maverik base for 20
Falling Water Lacrosse except that the maverick base is so flexible lol it bends back way to much from a shot
Is semi hard or Semi soft mesh better?
Depends on what your looking for... what is important to you as a goalie.... ?
ECD Lacrosse it's important for me to be able to make accurate passes, that my number one priority, thank u for responding
GREG PLEASE
Not the flaking
my mesh is so hard.
Nemesis Lyte lie bro
Can't u just use zip ties
Technically you can
ECD Lacrosse I just asked because I had to before
first
No one cares about the nemi fans
Can you make a tutorial for a stx professor high pocket