Should We Buy A Used Chevy Bolt EV? Under $25k EV Buyers Guide - Ep. 1

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
  • In part one of this ongoing series, Max looks at a 2019 Chevrolet Bolt LT to see if it's a good choice for a less than $25k used EV!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:46 Walkaround
    8:09 Driving and Impressions
    18:10 Used Buyer’s Advice
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Комментарии • 286

  • @XToXiCSQUIERLX
    @XToXiCSQUIERLX Год назад +138

    The 2023 EV and EUV are 26k and 28k respectively so I can't imagine a scenario where you would want to buy a used 2019 bolt for 26k. Obviously the used market is awful right now and supply of new cars and finding one at msrp is another factor but for anyone looking for a Bolt I'd recommend waiting for a new one unless you find a great price

    • @Bubbz2024
      @Bubbz2024 Год назад +7

      I recently ordered an EUV with Premier package (ACC with stop N Go) $32k

    • @XToXiCSQUIERLX
      @XToXiCSQUIERLX Год назад +8

      @@Bubbz2024 I just got a new 2022 Launch Edition EUV a couple weeks ago. With the 6300 Chevy is giving for 2022s and the trade in of my beat up 08 Rav it was also around 33k. It's a great car and hard to beat at the price point

    • @Bubbz2024
      @Bubbz2024 Год назад

      @@XToXiCSQUIERLX sweet deal ! lots of extra goodies in the launch edition

    • @lancastergerard
      @lancastergerard Год назад +2

      Thinking the same. Not a great time to buy a used period. I am however seeing just recently that most ‘22 bolts in inventory are currently not available. Replacing battery packs maybe?

    • @Bubbz2024
      @Bubbz2024 Год назад +1

      @@lancastergerard yes. Very insightful of you. My dealership has two used bolts sitting in the lot waiting for a new battery. They can't sell them until it's replaced and since GM is prioritizing existing customers cars first, the cars on the lots will be sitting unsellable for a while.

  • @evtrekker1317
    @evtrekker1317 Год назад +91

    New replacement packs are 65 kWh's for a 259mi range. Last July I drove my 2020 from Anchorage, AK to Austin, TX, the extra DC charge time allowed me rest/sleep to continue driving for 3-3.5hrs. Also since it charges at 53kW I was able to choose free chargers in the area even though there may be an EA station and those were usually 62 or 120 kw. Absolutely 0 issues for the entire 10,979 miles.

    • @markshellard
      @markshellard Год назад +5

      This is an amazing story.

    • @auctionwheels
      @auctionwheels Год назад

      Agree completely!

    • @edwardfrederick2291
      @edwardfrederick2291 Год назад +6

      My bolt was a tank in the winter in a few snow belt blizzards in ohio. It takes a little to move but blasts through anything.

    • @daviidfm923
      @daviidfm923 Год назад

      Isn’t there a section of the Alaskan highway where there is no dcfc

    • @evtrekker1317
      @evtrekker1317 Год назад +4

      @@daviidfm923 yes, eastern AK from Wasilla to Tok and on to the border at Beaver Creek. Then again after Watson Lake to Ft. Saint John. The most expensive charging I did during the trip was for level 2 charging in those areas.

  • @seanplace8192
    @seanplace8192 Год назад +19

    4:00 - The old battery was 60kWh, the replacement batteries are 65kWh. So any pre-2020 Bolt that had the battery replaced gets the new battery specs.

  • @lindawhite629
    @lindawhite629 Год назад +17

    Please note: if you're buying a used bolt from a chevy dealer the battery will have been replaced. They can't sell them with the old pack.

    • @simonthebroken9691
      @simonthebroken9691 Год назад +1

      I didn't know this. How do you know for sure?

    • @lindawhite629
      @lindawhite629 Год назад +6

      @@simonthebroken9691 a chevy dealer told me when I asked. Actually, 2 different dealers told me. The recall hold that had been placed on all bolts is only taken off if the batteries are replaced. Note this only applies to chevy dealers. If a bolt is traded elsewhere or sold privately it may still be waiting for the replacement.

  • @suvivorteen113311
    @suvivorteen113311 Год назад +9

    I got my 2017 Bolt EV in 2020 and now I commute 100 miles a day for work. It saves me a lot in fuel and it's fun enough to drive. I've put 50k miles on my since I purchased it and 30k miles since I got the new battery. I've had no issues with it and I plan on driving it into the ground before replacing it. For the price, it's a hard to pass up if you need a good commuter car. Road trips do suck but it is achievable.

  • @lukasz2867
    @lukasz2867 Год назад +15

    Just picked up sub $10k Fiat 500e with 26k miles on it. Even with short range and slow charging I couldn't be happier.
    Great commuter car with plenty of power and cheap to buy. When I need to venture out of town I still have my ICE vehicle on standby.

    • @KalleSWBeck
      @KalleSWBeck Год назад +3

      This is the way to really save $ under 10k ev for local driving

  • @evtrekker1317
    @evtrekker1317 Год назад +11

    Go for the premier if you want the tech. 360 cameras rearview mirror camera with washer, front/rear collision avoidance, leather, rear heated seats with cupholder armrest (not in LT). The heater is a ceramic resistive type that is fairly efficient that gets quite hot.

  • @rodneymiedema8686
    @rodneymiedema8686 Год назад +10

    We have two 2017 Chevy Bolts, one is a Premier and one LT. We love both but the LT is actually our favorite. We are satisfied owners and both have their batteries replaced. We have traveled long distances and it actually charges fairly quick with FC. I recommend this car for anyone!!!! LOVE IT!!!!

    • @belindab.2507
      @belindab.2507 Год назад +2

      Can you tell us why the LT is your favorite, as I am thinking of purchasing a Bolt in 2023? Thanks & I am glad to hear you are happy with your purchases.

    • @flolou8496
      @flolou8496 7 месяцев назад

      Does your 2017 LT model have the ability to remotely turn the AC or HEAT ON with a smartphone? (someone told me they think that feature is not standard across all model years for the LT Trim, but it is available, )

  • @philipcurtis9983
    @philipcurtis9983 Год назад +23

    The Bolt is absolutely the best value EV on the market right now. The amount of range you get for the price is great especially after the battery replacement. I have a 2019 Bolt I bought used for 23k a couple of years ago and I can easily get 270 miles of range using one pedal diving.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад +2

      better then a Nissan leaf for sure

    • @drdon196
      @drdon196 Год назад

      I bought a 2018 unfortunately only 160 mile range with a new main battery pack

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад +1

      @@drdon196 meh sounds about right could be worse you could have got a nissan leaf and got a main battery that was degrading like crazy on you and only had 6 miles of range left in it🤣🤣🤣

  • @totaled108
    @totaled108 Год назад +5

    It’s all about matching use case and budget.
    My use case is commuting with free charging at work for employees and a 330 mile one way road trip around 4 times a year. That’s 4 DCFC a year, no need to pay more for fast charging when I use it so infrequently.
    I’m loving the heated seats and steering wheel.
    If you’ve got more disposable income than the average person, get an ID.4 or Ionic 5 or similarly priced EV. My wife has the XC40 recharge and both of us love that vehicle, even with the reduced range compared to all other EVs. Her use case is fulfilled perfectly with that vehicle.

  • @augsu
    @augsu Год назад +7

    I have 120K on my 2017 Bolt and I love it. Range drops to 180 with winter tires in nw Montana at -30. Just had to do it's first repair, leaking seal on the passenger output, 12 dollar part and my local shop did it in an hour.

  • @auctionwheels
    @auctionwheels Год назад +19

    As a owner of a 17 bolt premier and a Ioniq 5 se I can tell you the bolt is a fantastic car for the money. You can absolutely road trip the bolt as we drive it everywhere. Yes it takes awhile to charge but if your not in a hurry it is great! The bolt has things the Ioniq 5 SE does not. Heated steering wheel, leather seats, front camera and 360 view. Home charging is easy and always charges overnight for Pennies.

    • @fjalics
      @fjalics Год назад +4

      Still no competition at 30k. And there is a huge difference between isn't a fast road tripper and 150 mile range with dying CHAEDEMO(Leaf).

    • @drdon196
      @drdon196 Год назад +1

      We have a 2018 boat with a battery pack replacement what a joke it only gets 160 mile of range and overnight charged only up to 65 percent

  • @GabeKassel
    @GabeKassel Год назад +3

    Max mimics Kyle’s mannerisms and it’s pretty funny to see. You’ll find your own style.

  • @peterwright837
    @peterwright837 Год назад +8

    I had a 2017 bolt and now drive a 2020 Bolt here in the San Francisco Bay Area with pretty mild winters. Range decreases about 20% in the winter when running the heater.

    • @Steve-wz5pz
      @Steve-wz5pz Год назад +2

      You RUN THE HEATER in CA?!?!?!? Hell, I live in MN and didn't use the Leaf's heater al winter.

  • @nickoverton3566
    @nickoverton3566 Год назад +11

    Hey Max as a part of this series, you should go into getting a EVSE or an outlet installed. That would follow the narrative of new owners getting a used car and getting the charger setup at home.

  • @WestCoastChicano
    @WestCoastChicano Год назад +7

    I plan on getting a 2023 Bolt. I'm not a road tripper but if I do a couple of road trips in the future I have no problem hanging out at the charger for about an hour or so because I love watching movies and TV shows on my phone. So slow charging won't be a problem for me. I'm nearly 💯% sure you'll be getting the Bolt. Gr8 vid as usual. 🚙 🇺🇸

  • @Necrotron
    @Necrotron Год назад +9

    As a Bolt owner, HELL YES. The range is competitive, you get really good cargo space with the seats down, and while the slower DC fast charge isn't great it's still good enough for road trips upstate. I wouldn't take it across country, but intrastate? It's perfectly fine.

    • @natehill8069
      @natehill8069 Год назад +1

      Exactly. I had an Accord for 13 years (that I loved - NOTHING broke) and I took it beyond a gas tank ONCE. Admittedly it held 17 gals and got 35 hwy, so a tank was pretty far.

  • @amenhotepavoskin1307
    @amenhotepavoskin1307 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've had my 2019 Premier since brand new, including 4 Canadian winters. Love it and plan to keep it for as long as possible. GM has created a masterpiece.

  • @wassiswallylokhankin191
    @wassiswallylokhankin191 4 месяца назад +3

    I've had my 2019 Premier since brand new and still love it. It came so natural to me that it's not even a car - it's a set of wings over my shoulders.

    • @manoman0
      @manoman0 Месяц назад

      It goes like stink, man.

    • @wassiswallylokhankin191
      @wassiswallylokhankin191 Месяц назад +1

      @@manoman0 If stink goes 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, yes.

    • @manoman0
      @manoman0 Месяц назад

      @@wassiswallylokhankin191 My guts tell me you don't consider that very quick.😃

    • @wassiswallylokhankin191
      @wassiswallylokhankin191 Месяц назад

      @@manoman0 Tell your gut to calm down, it's quick enough for me. I love my Bolt.

    • @manoman0
      @manoman0 Месяц назад +1

      @@wassiswallylokhankin191 Oh, I am very calm. I test drove it and I was gobsmacked how this thing went off from stand. I love that car just from that single test drive I took.

  • @Lynyrd_Evnyrd
    @Lynyrd_Evnyrd Год назад +8

    Bolt is the best value for the dollar.
    It has that fast acceleration that people come to expect from EVs, it has liquid cooling in the pack so it shouldn’t see massive range loss over time like Nissan Leafs and the old Ioniq might and they all have brand new battery packs due to the recall. Even high mileage bolts have the new battery.
    They are uniquely a better deal than all other cheap EVs unless you need better fast charging.

  • @packers0953
    @packers0953 Год назад

    This series is so good! Thanks for all the advice and knowledge sharing.

  • @ctk4949
    @ctk4949 Год назад +5

    I dont mind the "start/stop" button. In cars without them, if the driver gets out and you still have passengers it will turn off the car. Thats really annoying.

  • @peterjorgensen3
    @peterjorgensen3 Год назад +3

    I've got Blizzaks on my Kia Niro EV (150kw FWD) in Utah and it's unstoppable in snow. It's hopeless without snow tires.

  • @angrybeaver6667
    @angrybeaver6667 Год назад +5

    its only 26k new, why would you buy used?

  • @ryankassel5691
    @ryankassel5691 Год назад +13

    A big downside with the bolt is the charging curve. It would be a lot better if it held the 55 kw peak rate through 80%+ but it starts throttling pretty significantly before 50%. It's still a really great option though!

    • @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
      @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Год назад +2

      While I agree that that sucks, it might actually be a good thing. The charging curve is so gentle on the battery, it might make it such that 10 years later, you’re still getting great range out of it. And for the average driver, who’s only doing 40 miles a day anyway, this isn’t an issue. You charge at home with your level 2 charger and wake up to a charged battery, ready to go. The slow charging speed only affects those who do a lot of long distance driving. If you’re often doing (more than 3 times every month) 300+ miles in a single day, then this car isn’t for you.

  • @CC-sj8hd
    @CC-sj8hd Год назад +8

    This should have been the first $10k used EV that’s reasonably good. The market is just a mess.

    • @davidmccarthy6061
      @davidmccarthy6061 Год назад +4

      Right, the early ones cost basically the same as a brand new one! So, go with the warranty.

    • @brendykes6599
      @brendykes6599 Год назад +3

      @@davidmccarthy6061 the new battery comes with a new battery warranty. My 2017 LT got a new battery & warranty with over 50k miles on it. Almost like it became a new car for free.

  • @jnsweat11
    @jnsweat11 Год назад +2

    Love seeing you again max I Frist seen you on tfl welcome to out of spec

  • @mikekimura2532
    @mikekimura2532 Год назад +3

    A couple corrections
    24:22 "DC Fast Charging. Most North American Bolts do" ALL USA 2017-2021 Bolt EV Models (LT or Premier) DC Fast Charging was a $750 Option.
    25:46 "This is not Leather Seats because this it's LT" That is a 2017 Premier model WITH Leather Seats.

  • @ElmerEDavis
    @ElmerEDavis Год назад

    Thanks for the excellent comprehensive review for a used Chevy Bolt EV. I’ll be sure to watch for what comes next.

  • @PhatPhrankInChicago
    @PhatPhrankInChicago 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great eco car. I love my hot hatch but she was born with 3 fixable problems via the Bolt EV forum: 1. Worst is tires in snow or rain, fix with snow tires on OEM rims and get LS contact tires on Chevy Cruze Eco Rims. 2. Heater drains battery, fix is to install efficient PTC heater through inverter or direct 12 V hookup. 3. Front seats get uncomfortable within an hour or sooner depending on body type and health, fix is a seat cushion or sliding some foam under the upholstery.

  • @sandmehlig
    @sandmehlig Год назад +7

    Thank you for covering more affordable cars.

  • @williamwebberjr8045
    @williamwebberjr8045 Год назад +2

    Great video and looking forward to the other rides. Thinking its a used Bolt after Jan 1st.

  • @ainschuntayleuhn1147
    @ainschuntayleuhn1147 Год назад +4

    Thank You! Nobody is doing reporting on Used EV’s.

  • @ChicagoBob123
    @ChicagoBob123 Год назад +3

    Let me add this. I owned a 21 bolt. The seats were awful, the charging speeds limiting. The suspension harsh. The 2022 the suspension was better the seats improved but not enough for my liking.m, the charging speed stayed the same.

  • @rexlybrand6688
    @rexlybrand6688 Год назад +3

    I love my 2020 Bolt Premier and was looking to upgrade to the Hyundai IONIQ5 as my lease is over in 2 months. I’ve been on waitlists for nearly a year with no phone call. After seeing your video, I think I will just keep the Bolt: I still have not heard from Chevy about the timing of my battery replacement, which will reset the clock on longevity, and exhausted from slimy dealers trying to get $10,000 over MSRP out of me. Thank you for helping me see my car through a clear lens!

    • @rexlybrand6688
      @rexlybrand6688 Год назад +1

      Oh, and I also live in Colorado (10,000’ elevation) and with some cheap snow tires, the Bolt stays glued to the ground (much better than my previous GTI). AWD is apparently not the prerequisite I once thought. (Range reduced with cold and studs to 185). With free town charging, I’ve spent less than $100 In energy costs for over 30,000 miles. Unbeatable.

  • @andersn8547
    @andersn8547 Год назад

    Great video and great video quality!

  • @jnsweat11
    @jnsweat11 Год назад +3

    Dc charging was a $850 option you need to let them know 17-2019

  • @joseespinoza2402
    @joseespinoza2402 Год назад +3

    It's a really fun little car to drive. I have a 2022 bolt ev and I love it. Yes the whole battery issue thing going on sucks. On the other hand it's an affordable ev for those who can't afford a much nicer ev like Tesla. But it gets the job done .

  • @richdaley9982
    @richdaley9982 7 дней назад

    Great overview of the Bolt. I have a Bolt EUV and I love it. A couple of things about charging. You mention that you could go on a 100 mile each way day trip but I would go so far as to say that you can pretty eaily do a 400 mile trip. You do one long charge along the way and you are good. Many of us take longer trips and it is totally doable if not fast.
    Also, while the charging is very slow, it is a very efficient car so while you are maxing out at 55kw, you are adding more miles per minute you charge than most vehicles. This doesn't fully make up for the charging speed as the charging curve is also pretty bad but in the real world, it does not feel that bad to me. We typcailly drive about 90 minutes to 2 hours and then charge for 30-45 minutes.

  • @turnersinsurance8656
    @turnersinsurance8656 Год назад +2

    I guess I'm now officially spoiled: After arriving at an EA 10 station location yesterday afternoon, finding a BMW and a KIA charging there, I pulled in and fueled up. Later, those two left and a Rivian pulled in. Nice. Just as we were leaving, a Bolt drove up. Sad.
    Now, I'm a former owner of two 2014/15 Nissan LEAFS, so being the 'odd man out' was not uncommon, sitting beside Teslas at most charging stations. But now, for some reason, I see that 'little Bolt', and feel like they have something missing. I drive a Lightning.

  • @beautyofgrace3915
    @beautyofgrace3915 Год назад +1

    This is an underrated car! I think Kyle should get it. I'm looking at the bolt euv.

  • @micantony1
    @micantony1 Год назад +4

    When reviewing the Bolt, please change the Drivers display to the more advanced option. It gives you much more information you desire. You left it on the basic “dumb” option.
    Best items on the Premier trim are the birds eye view for parking and the Video rear view mirror. And I believe heated seats in the rear as well, in case one has children in cold weather. FYI.

    • @mikekimura2532
      @mikekimura2532 Год назад +1

      Agreed! Should always used Enhanced configuration!!! Currently it is configured for the middle "Modern" and not the basic "Classic".
      Note: Classic configuration was removed starting 2022.
      - Classic configuration displays the speedometer with a simplified battery gauge and efficiency light.
      - Modern configuration displays the speedometer with a battery gauge and efficiency gauge.
      - Enhanced configuration displays the speedometer with battery gauge, efficiency ring, and power gauge.

  • @DS-mz7dy
    @DS-mz7dy Год назад +1

    Always drive in "sport" as it just makes it feel quicker, especially at the stop lights. Good tech, heated seats and steering wheel are a must. Change out those original tires for real tires, you'll be amazed at how well it perfoms in the snow.

  • @ninj4geek
    @ninj4geek Год назад +2

    Paid 17.1k a year ago for my Premier. Got a pack swap a couple months later. Couldn't be happier

  • @unccred
    @unccred Год назад +2

    If that specific car has the new battery then the capacity is 66kWh with a 259 mile range.

  • @michaeljay6349
    @michaeljay6349 Год назад +3

    Strong no on energy saver A/S in the winter. You can buy cheap 16 inch steel rims, and mount winter tires on those. The range decrease is noticeable, but the battery is large enough that there is no reason to risk using non winter rated tires.

    • @sevenflashowls
      @sevenflashowls Год назад +2

      Yes, I agree, you really need to change those tire to winter tires. I think it actually rides better with the winter tires.

    • @ryankassel5691
      @ryankassel5691 Год назад +2

      Totally agree. I think it's funny they have "A/S" in the name. It's like driving on hockey pucks when it's below freezing. They're basically useless in the snow

  • @seanrobin6573
    @seanrobin6573 Год назад

    "Absolutely MAGNIFICENT Review, Very Informative. Especially for Individuals Considering a Cost Efficient EV

  • @mundoracer
    @mundoracer Год назад +3

    Cool series!
    Make sure to do the i3s instead of the regular i3

  • @terragrub197
    @terragrub197 Год назад +1

    DC Fast Charging was great, but at home my JuiceBox 40 was a great addition and after Ubering until 2am, by 7am it was charged to 80% no problem.
    DC fast charging to 80% was 50 min or so, again not bad.
    From Thousand Oaks to Vegas was a stop in Hesperia then Baker then Vegas.

  • @thomasyoung8116
    @thomasyoung8116 Год назад +4

    I just bought a 2022 EUV and I love it, great car even if it was more expensive. I am averaging 3.9 miles per kilowatt and I don't drive like a grandma but not like an idiot either. Great comfort, easy to drive, can't ask for much more for half the price of a Tesla.

    • @KentQuickstad
      @KentQuickstad Год назад

      Did you find one that wasn't selling above MSRP? Just curious since it's impossible in the Northwest to find them without markups.

    • @thomasyoung8116
      @thomasyoung8116 Год назад

      @@KentQuickstad Yes, I actually got it for $6K below sticker price

  • @edwardlouie
    @edwardlouie 19 дней назад +1

    2017 bolt, clean title, 35k mile odometer, $15k before the $4k federal used ev rebate. $11k after time of sale rebate.

  • @shartpampers
    @shartpampers Год назад +9

    Yes, you should continue to explore used EV's for those of us that are EV curious. I'm not going to give up my petroleum powered cars, but I have considered trying an EV for commuting. I'm not all in on the EV thing so I would not be willing to spend $40k+ on something I might never want to drive. An older Leaf or a Bolt might be just the thing for some of us that want to try an EV without a big commitment.

  • @TalismanPHX
    @TalismanPHX Год назад +2

    Michelin CrossClimate2 snow tires are a requirement for winter driving. Those tires will have a minimal impact on electric range

  • @grahamstefaan
    @grahamstefaan Год назад +4

    For 26.5k I'd just buy a new 2023 Bolt EV. I'd need a 10k discount to consider a used one some old lady with a cat farted all over.

  • @williamalford5286
    @williamalford5286 Год назад +2

    If the battery was replaced in the recall, the battery is larger than the original 60kw battery. I believe it is 66kw, but night be 65kw.

  • @carolynstewart8465
    @carolynstewart8465 3 месяца назад

    Very good review!❤

  • @joshuasmith7369
    @joshuasmith7369 Год назад +2

    Try buying a 1997 geo metro and have it Electrified. Less than $6,000 in total price.

  • @arnieom9
    @arnieom9 Год назад +1

    My understanding it's a TAX CREDIT. So you have to have your Federal Taxes at least the amount at least the amount of TAX CREDIT in full. I leased a 2019 Bolt 1LT. Drove it over 25,000 miles. Cost me $30 to $33 per month for 1,000 miles of city and highway driving. ONLY OUTPOINT I observed was windshield wiper arms had too much tension and caused the rubber blades to rapidly bounce (like a machine gun). Tried upgrading to Bosch silicone blades. Did not help. Then GM made me a straight settlement offer on Lemon Law Terms (vs. volunteer buy back) that I could not refuse! 2019 Bolt 1LT was $39,000. Now the 2023 Bolt 1LT is $25,400. However, on Jan 2, 2023 GM increased price by $900. GM currently does not offer price protection for those 'bench ordered' in Aug 2022! Sad for sure. However, dealer may or may not offer price protection. I was alerted by dealer that on May 27, 2023 my 'bench order' from Aug 2022 finally was being 'allocated' by GM for production. Yay! Hope to have a Vin# in 30 days. In any event whether you purchase a used Bolt from 2017-2022 you will be receiving a NEW battery and warranty on new battery. All in all Chevy Bolt be it EV or EUV is the best bang for your buck with 250 mile range as long as you obey the speed limits. Also you will receive a notification your 'pushing it too hard at 92 mph. Hope my comment helps.

  • @TalismanPHX
    @TalismanPHX Год назад +2

    I think a Maverick XLT hybrid would be my top budget pick, then a Bolt EUV with super cruise

  • @georgemartin1436
    @georgemartin1436 Год назад +1

    I bought a used 2017 Premier for about 18 in 2020, drove it 50K more miles and sold it back to Chevy for 22 with shot tires (due to the recall). As far as maintenance I did have to fill the washer fluid reservoir. I picked up a used 2012 Volt Premier for 7.3 that I can ALMOST get to the free charging at work. I do miss the Bolt because of how much fun it is to drive. Yes I'm a total cheapskate so I'll wait till the market gets back to normal.

  • @worldwide_wes
    @worldwide_wes Год назад +1

    I gave this guy crap on TFL a ways back but he’s much better now! Good job man

    • @worldwide_wes
      @worldwide_wes Год назад

      I owned a bolt ev and it was fine but the seats were bad, ride is rigid on pizza cutters, and the head unit was awful. I got stock waiting for a replacement battery so long I took a buy back. Registration for it in CA was $520 for me so high registration costs should be factored in for other Californians. I might consider another used one with a new pack though.

    • @kens97sto171
      @kens97sto171 Год назад

      @@worldwide_wes
      Why was the registration so expensive? would that not be true on any car?
      what was wrong with the head unit? Radio?

    • @worldwide_wes
      @worldwide_wes Год назад

      @@kens97sto171 electric cars don’t pay the gas tax so the state charges more for registration. Ask Governor Gavin Newsome why. Head unit is slow and buggy. Most annoying thing is the radio will blast unexpectedly. If I used CarPlay last time driving and unplug my phone before turning off the car and opening the door it auto switches to fm radio which is much higher volume than my CarPlay volume was. Same with starting the car again if you didn’t turn the volume down when you got out it will blast you again lol it’s a joke

  • @rmbmpd
    @rmbmpd Год назад +1

    One thing to consider in the new vs old debate is that for the new cars, Chevrolet includes a level 2 charger installation (or enough money towards one with a simple setup. I believe that if he installation is complicated, you have to pay the difference). So the $26,000 for the new car includes that level 2 charger whereas the used car doesn’t. I don’t know how much a level 2 installation is or how much Chevrolet credits toward it but it’s an additional bargaining chip against a used car that’s only $1,000 or so cheaper than a new one.

  • @daves1646
    @daves1646 Год назад +2

    Hey Max, How does a 2019 Bolt EV only have a range of 237/238, same as with original chemistry pack. Is that bolt (a 2019!) still on it’s original pack? I would NEVER advocate buying a pre-recall completion Bolt EV, esp 2019. Or is there some regulatory snafu that keeps the ranges for the range upgrade from the recall being attached to the vehicle?

  • @roberttylerbennett
    @roberttylerbennett Месяц назад +1

    A year later and I just bought a 2021 Bolt for $14k with the tax credit with only 10,000 miles.

  • @bobcaldwell9238
    @bobcaldwell9238 Год назад +4

    I agree picking up a sub-$25k Bolt is a great idea but aren’t the prices going to go up starting 1/1/23? The dealers are all going to know that the buyers are going to be getting tax credits. Won’t they try to absorb them for themselves? The only Bolts available got sub-$25k will be really high mileage that should be only $20k but they’ll try to sell them for $24k. My prediction.

    • @608997
      @608997 Год назад

      Totally agree - this is the logical market (and greedy dealer) reaction.

    • @608997
      @608997 Год назад

      Though the credit might not have as significant an impact until 2024 - in 2023 it won't be applied at the time of purchase, so won't feel as impactful on the price in the dealership..

  • @FuncleChuck
    @FuncleChuck Год назад +2

    Aren’t the NEW ones basically that price? Seems the used should be under 20 by now.

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew Год назад +1

    Something nice is that if you buy even a 2017 Bolt, it will have or could have an almost new battery.

  • @terragrub197
    @terragrub197 Год назад

    Loved my 2017 Chevy Bolt EV, but GM screwed me with the Recall and the end of my lease. But would own one again.
    Drove it from Northern Los Angeles to Vegas, was easy.

  • @boomerbits2297
    @boomerbits2297 Год назад +2

    Some corrections. The new battery is 65 KW not 60. The epa range is 259 on that battery. I get about 280 on my 22 Bolt EV.
    No way would I pay 26k for a 19 Ev since you can buy a new 1lt for a bit over 26k. Charging rate is not an issue for us and to compare it to 50 or 60 k vehicles isnt really a fair comparison. I can buy two Bolts for the cost of an Ioniq 5 or EV 6 or even a model 3 many of us are not going to toss $50-$80 grand on a car. If you drive a mini then obviously you dont either One if the criticisms is that many of your reviews are not suited to the general public. I also dont care about a power button. Give me a break I

    • @iMaxPatten
      @iMaxPatten Год назад

      We noticed the battery was the (previous) bigger capacity in the driving part of the video! A nice benefit of the new packs.

  • @WarthogRacer
    @WarthogRacer Год назад +1

    I think you cover one of those Mitsubishi EVs. They are cheap, but I don't know if they are very usable.

  • @mglmouser
    @mglmouser Год назад +2

    If you have the new battery, you have 66kW battery. Not the old 60kW.

  • @macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662
    @macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 2 месяца назад

    I got a very lightly used 2023 EUV LT for 17k. Sad to see these go. What a wonderful car.

  • @cbenson513
    @cbenson513 Год назад +4

    Edit: given new prices w/rebate go new imo. Full warranty is nice. Bolt is great low-cost long'ish range ev. For some it could be their only car. For a fun daily driver with less range I'd take the mini cooper ev you mentioned at the beginning instead. More fun to drive and has some character coming in around $25k new after fed+co rebates.

    • @king-crane4956
      @king-crane4956 Год назад +1

      The mini is $25k new? I thought it was getting a price increase into the $30k range and not qualifying for incentive being built out of US.

    • @cbenson513
      @cbenson513 Год назад +1

      @@king-crane4956 Thanks, you are right, I forgot it no longer qualifies for the EV incentives. I'd still have one as a fun local car, but certainly not in "deal" category.

    • @king-crane4956
      @king-crane4956 Год назад +1

      @@cbenson513 ah ok. I had crossed it off my list when the incentive dropped. If they could bunch the range up that would still be a steal for a city EV.

  • @wva5089
    @wva5089 Год назад +1

    Do you have L1 charging at your home? many leaf+bolt owners don't even use L2. ~50 miles/night for a commute is easily recouped by L1

  • @paulmarshall7044
    @paulmarshall7044 Год назад +2

    Why would you buy that for $26,000 when you can get a new one for almost the same amount of money. By the way I bought a 2017 Chevy Bolt in September of 2021 for $15,200. it was perfect!
    Great Car and I got the new 66kwh, Battery for free!

  • @kalebm9302
    @kalebm9302 Год назад +16

    Would also be cool to see a first generation Chevrolet Volt and see how the car performs after 10 years of being on the road.

    • @evtrekker1317
      @evtrekker1317 Год назад +2

      Still have my 2013 Volt, only has 55K miles on it and 2 years left on its extended warranty.

    • @kalebm9302
      @kalebm9302 Год назад

      @@evtrekker1317 I love my 2012, can still get over EPA at like 42-45ish miles

    • @stockprobe
      @stockprobe 11 месяцев назад

      @@kalebm9302 I've got a 2011 Volt, gets about 30 miles on battery

  • @jons_collectibles_13
    @jons_collectibles_13 Год назад +2

    I would buy a Chevy Cruze if it was an EV…. I’m not digging the bolts. I love my model 3 but if I were to buy another EV I would consider Chevy

  • @wcrash9361
    @wcrash9361 Год назад +1

    The problem with the rebate is now ev owners are knowing this you will see used ev prives will be going up

  • @MrClam
    @MrClam Год назад +2

    should look into the original ioniq electric

  • @monono954
    @monono954 Год назад +2

    Did Max dip from TFL?

  • @jd467
    @jd467 Год назад +2

    Underrated EV!

  • @fozzir
    @fozzir 4 месяца назад

    "because of the battery fires you can get one cheap!". Famous last words!

  • @turnersinsurance8656
    @turnersinsurance8656 Год назад +1

    I'm going to say this, too: If you are looking to compare a nice 'used' Bolt with a 'brand new ev tax credit' Bolt, you might also be 'assuming' that the ev tax credit is a given: IT IS NOT. Most folks, especially those looking for a lower-priced entry-level EV, are probably also NOT going to have a $7,500 TAX BURDEN to offset the 'credit'(basically, you won't get the credit, or the full value of it, as you might assume), and you won't KNOW this until you file your taxes. Then, it's too late. You'll have to have a LOT of taxable income to create $7,500 worth of 'tax burden', especially considering your first 'married filing deduction' is already $26,000 of Income BEFORE you pay your first penny in any taxes, then the next $22,000 of income is only at 10%(which is $2,200 of taxes, without considering any other credits, deductions, etc), then the next $45,000 is at 12%, etc.) You'd be surprised.
    Maybe the tax credit will be much easier to 'assume' in coming years, but it seems that right now, the gamble is about like going to Vegas - you're hyped up about the chances of 'winning', so you throw your money on the table with much less regard than when you're at home paying the bills.

  • @Rippin_N_Tearin
    @Rippin_N_Tearin 9 месяцев назад

    For a daily driver to work and level two charger at home will work the best and save you if charge at night while asleep.

  • @ryanoleston7136
    @ryanoleston7136 Год назад

    for a high mileage used bolt what would be your max miles you'd consider?

  • @drewdemaio4162
    @drewdemaio4162 9 месяцев назад

    Hello all! Looking at a 2020 Bolt EV Premier this week and I’m completely new to EVs. Asking price is $20,495. What questions should I ask the dealer? What features or extras should I be looking for. Should I be concerned with the quality of the battery on the 2020? Help!!

  • @loribarron7710
    @loribarron7710 Год назад

    Make sure they fixed the recall on the Bolt. I traded my 2021 Bolt in due to the recall and the Jeep dealership sold it without the recall being fixed.

  • @Steve-wz5pz
    @Steve-wz5pz Год назад

    A Brand new Bolt with the $7,500 tax credit costs ~$20-21k with the full warranty and the new 65Kwh battery that will not burn down your garage. Since 5 year old Bolts were selling for $21-22 around here (MN), the choice, she was a clear one.

  • @steveroper8733
    @steveroper8733 Год назад +4

    Good job Max! I found myself thinking I should just buy a Bolt for a "spare" family car. Seems like a lot of value for the money.

    • @michaeljay6349
      @michaeljay6349 Год назад

      Buy it, and it likely won't be a spare car. You might not want to road trip in it, but for daily commuting and errands... it's practical and cheap to operate.

  • @flolou8496
    @flolou8496 Год назад

    This idea could work for some, but what am I missing? Say you budget 15K for a used Chevy Bolt (I've seen them go this low) yes it's newer like a 2017 model, but
    if the 2012 Nissan leaf's are able to go for 7500.00, you could buy 2 and get say a 100 mile range between the two of them, ie alternate each day,

  • @undrachvrsage
    @undrachvrsage Год назад

    Yeah, as far as (actual) commuters that are affordable and can be used for some basic traveling as well, the only other real option would be a Kia soul ev (if you can find one). Leafs and the like have far too little range to be useful outside of entirely urban settings.
    The fast charge rate and it cliff diving at 50% isn't great but it's still the best option price wise for most, assuming you can keep the dealer from trying to bend you over the hood.

  • @7461533
    @7461533 4 месяца назад

    Have a 2023 Bolt EUV love it

  • @Catman1798
    @Catman1798 4 месяца назад

    How do you know for sure if a used Chevy bolt had its battery changed out during the recall???

  • @godofdun
    @godofdun Год назад +2

    Great car for the price! I can only hope that GM isn't losing their shirt too hard after the price reduction lol

  • @packers0953
    @packers0953 Год назад

    Sorry if I missed this but are you going to do a Chevy spark review?

  • @nicholaskolnik6458
    @nicholaskolnik6458 Год назад +1

    I loved my 2020 bolt. I got it right before the 23s were released. I got GM to buy it back, which was very hard to do, the worst customer service ever!! Every single person I talked to lied to me. The CEO lied to buyers and investors. If that 2019 battery has been replaced it should have the same battery as a 2023. I had it for over a year and only used a level 1 charger and drove an average of 30 miles a day. Now that I have two Niro EVs we have a level 2 charger.

    • @nicholaskolnik6458
      @nicholaskolnik6458 Год назад +1

      I live in Iowa and in winter I never got above 1 m/kW in the bolt. A heat pump is a must in an EV in cold climates. In my Niro EV with a heat pump I get about 3 m/kW in the winter, EPA is 3.7 m/kW

  • @joeyyung911
    @joeyyung911 Год назад +1

    Only buy it after the battery has been replaced. Still waiting on my '19.

  • @Zip_Zero_ZILCH
    @Zip_Zero_ZILCH 6 месяцев назад

    I tried one of these as an Uber rental so I could compare Kia, Volvo, Chevy and Polestar. The "Fast charge" on a 22 model was laughable and not good at all for ride-sharing. I see a 2019 with 20k miles here now for 12k before the tax credit. I am gonna do it for commuting only as I can just plug it into the garage overnight and keep just enough charge to get me through the week.

  • @SteveRowe
    @SteveRowe Год назад +1

    2.7 mi/kwh is not very good for the Bolt. Also, when it gets cold, you can expect to lose 30% of your range, more like 50% if you use your heater.

  • @SweetLou0523
    @SweetLou0523 Год назад +2

    In 2019, used Bolts were selling for $10k less than that. The answer is no. You'd have to be a moron to pay $26k for a used bolt when new Bolts cost that much BEFORE the tax credit and the upcoming equinox ev will sell for that after the tax credit.