Saying dreaded was not an insult to you but me making fun of the MK community who swears anything subzero does, even small, is considered the most broken unbeatable and dreaded thing in the game. I have been aware of this set up for quite some time as have many subzero players. I never said that it wasn’t you that it came up with it and to be honest with you I wasn’t sure who originally came up with it. All I said was that has been known for sometime and several people in my stream have claimed one person or another came up with this first. I wasn’t trying to take credit from you at all, I truly didn’t know who the first person was so I just didn’t say who the first person was because I really didn’t know.
Ahhhhhh, I see. That makes sense! If you haven't done so, please watch the rest of the video and know that I am not only ecstatic that you even left a reply to this video, but also know that I'm a long-time supporter of yours that wants Sub-Zero/MK1 to be improved and hope that you lead the way towards that. Also, I'd love to remain in dialogue with you because not only am I a fan of yours, but I think that the Sub-Zero community can only benefit when its premier advocates work together to improve our main and our game. EDIT: As to your comments about the origin of the tech, it's all good! I didn't take offense to your comments about where or from whom it came from - I just wasn't sure where those other videos were because I'd have never put my video out about it if I'd have known that those existed. Fun fact: I actually contacted you before I put out the 'Player 1 Advantage' video because I was hoping that you would make that video and get that problem fixed. You told me to reach out to you on X, but Twitter was being stupid and blocked me, even though I'd never been on the site in my life prior with the Gmail account I was using!
We can't really hear Tom's audio in his video very well so I'd try to mitigate that, but cool video dude. Watching Tom in MK9 helped me win a local tournament-He will always have my respect.
Yeah, I realized he was virtually inaudible after the fact... But yeah, I feel exactly the same way - Tom will always have my respect based on his contributions to the MK community.
Pretty sure you were also the first guy to bring up 1P advantage with video footage and Tom never credited you on that either. When he eventually talked about it he again acted like it was a "known" thing. And look, this needs to be said, I know you respect the guy, he's charismatic, has good game knowledge and is entertaining but that's it. Guy's surrounded by controversy and always acts like an asshole through much of it but he really lost my respect years ago when he took people's money to enter a tournament, backed out, lied about it and forged receipts, only to get called out and caught on stream by sonicfox. Can't make this up, man. Just expect nothing from him, keep labbing and sharing your knowledge, peace 🤙
Let shit go Jesus christ lol Did Tom take money from you personally? Why would you be THAT butthurt about that shit to bring it up again. I get it dude did wrong but for *years* that's all so many people have to say "he's an asshole and he lied one time" Tom has more than gotten his just due on that nonsense specifically because people can't let someone redeem themselves.Same energy with Perfect legend everyone is STILL shitting on PL over the 13-0 it is sooooooo tired at this point. Street fighter community gets Evo 37 MK just does this bullshit
Thank you for your honesty. A part of me agrees with all of what you said - but I'm hoping that he will turn himself around change his mind on what he will contribute to the community. Everyone has the capacity to grow, change and learn from the blemishes of the past. Though I recognize that Tom might settle being exactly the person that you described and wallow in misery, I will still hold out hope that he can listen to a fan - even as I fully understand why you won't hold out that same hope. Nonetheless, thank you for supporting me - I got more tech where that came from.
@@mrAPchem Yeah, sorry for sounding harsh, but sort of knowing Tom and seeing the effort you constantly put out not only on the tech but in trying to stay positive given MK1's current state and having him not even acknowledge a fellow sub player multiple times really rubbed me the wrong way. And as for Tom, I think he's too far gone to be honest, not sure if he's struggling with something but I checked out after some livestreams where he just didn't play the game and lashed out at his viewers. It's a shame really as I still think he puts out good entertaining stuff but I just can't support him anymore. But yeah, hope he can get his sh*t together someday. Take care.
Considering the 40f advantage of air 112 could you please do a research for its mid stage properties with his ice ball which is 39f.I did some labbing and i think you could set a lot of mind gaming. Im not a content creator though but you especially can make some more juice from this. Considering this, i wouldn't suggest a faster ice ball as a buff but an enhanced ice ball with two hit properties. A tricky and invisible buff 😉
Hmmmmm, that is an interesting thought! I do think that 112 in the air certainly does benefit Sub-Zero in ways that might not have been explored yet. But his Ice Ball is close to useless precisely for the reasons that you noted - it is far too slow. I want the same buff as you - a much faster Ice Ball. For reference, I want it to have the exact same properties as Tanya's projectile, both the normal and EX version. As for your second buff, I love that idea, but think it would be better applied to the EX-Klone so that he could really trap people. What are your thoughts?
Faster ice ball😢... that's a wishful thought but we have to be more diplomatic thinking of the treatment subzero has from the beginning. I'm trying to build something based on your discovery. I experimented with subzero cameo and i can say for sure that with the 112 scenarios, subzero is a godlike character in defense and trapping. Im saying this because everyone tries offensive cameos. Sub-zero now is clearly a mid screen character. Standing 2 button, down 4 and now better ice clone cool down, are tools of "wait for the right time", not a "seek and destroy". But im telling you again... with Sub cameo, our boy is in his full arsenal if you play the cards right 🙂
I know I’m probably not the only one but I have been spamming MRAPCHEM in Toms vids lately hoping he caught wind😂 I just personally wanted to know his respected opinion of some the stuff I see here. Much respect you both
Thank you for trying to make him aware of what's out there for Sub-Zero from my channel. I too wanted to see what his thoughts were - especially if he could refine the tech and make it better.
Mrapchem the only video I watched of yours was the p1 advantage then I came across this and I have to say u literally are saying what I been saying in mk Tom Brady’s and mike hollows comments that’s people will love mk1 when mk2 comes out, and you don’t have to play mk1 if you don’t like it Also I agree with everything bro mk Tom Brady literally drops hate video after hate video and him and mike hollow love talking on FATE but they are both pushing the SAME AGENDA as him man it’s literally crazy And even tho this is a great video most likely people are gonna just look at you as a “shill” bro it seems when people make videos like this and aren’t hating on mk1 they’re “shills” It’s so stupid bro great video man keep it up 👍🏽 you got my subscription and support💯
Much respect man. MK1 is my first MK that i have gotten into and the lack of tech and information on setups can make things difficult to get into. Just making things simpler to understand and to build from is an invaluble tool to any fighting game. As a newer player to the MK series its saddening to see so many people say that it is trash or a waste of money or whatever they say. Not bashing Tom by any means as I know he has done a lot for the communty. You got my sub and I look forward to more tech and combo stuff in the future. I hope that the comminty can come together as a whole to be constructive to hopefully make this game something to enjoy for many. Obviously NRS can't please everyone but I'm sure they take notice and try to implement changes that are positive towards the games balance abd enjoyment. Take care bro bro
Players like you are exactly why I do what I do on my channel! I want as many people playing MK as possible - and at a level in which they fully understand exactly what they are doing in terms of using frame data and using other fundamental FG skills. And this game MK1 is the perfect game for a newbie to get into because they can learn so much about FGs and explore nearly infinite tech because of the Kameo system. The main problem of this game is that it lacks content - a first for an NRS game - likely because it was rushed out to the public before it was truly ready. Otherwise, the game is super-fun and allows you to use anyone you want and get wins online, even the very worst characters in the game. I hope that my videos really help you to enjoy this game more. I have more where that came from!
And that would prove what exactly??? The main thesis of my response is that Tom was Sub-Zero players' North Star and me and the rest of us were looking to him for guidance only for him to spend his time ranting constantly - until now. I'm asking him to return to form, not step aside. Talk about missing the entire plot of the film...
Saying dreaded was not an insult to you but me making fun of the MK community who swears anything subzero does, even small, is considered the most broken unbeatable and dreaded thing in the game. I have been aware of this set up for quite some time as have many subzero players. I never said that it wasn’t you that it came up with it and to be honest with you I wasn’t sure who originally came up with it. All I said was that has been known for sometime and several people in my stream have claimed one person or another came up with this first. I wasn’t trying to take credit from you at all, I truly didn’t know who the first person was so I just didn’t say who the first person was because I really didn’t know.
Ahhhhhh, I see. That makes sense!
If you haven't done so, please watch the rest of the video and know that I am not only ecstatic that you even left a reply to this video, but also know that I'm a long-time supporter of yours that wants Sub-Zero/MK1 to be improved and hope that you lead the way towards that.
Also, I'd love to remain in dialogue with you because not only am I a fan of yours, but I think that the Sub-Zero community can only benefit when its premier advocates work together to improve our main and our game.
EDIT: As to your comments about the origin of the tech, it's all good! I didn't take offense to your comments about where or from whom it came from - I just wasn't sure where those other videos were because I'd have never put my video out about it if I'd have known that those existed.
Fun fact: I actually contacted you before I put out the 'Player 1 Advantage' video because I was hoping that you would make that video and get that problem fixed. You told me to reach out to you on X, but Twitter was being stupid and blocked me, even though I'd never been on the site in my life prior with the Gmail account I was using!
understandable
So if Sub gets nerfed again, blame both of you. Got it
I like how it’s “your” tech. Like no one else can think of anything similar for themselves
@@StoneCold-Stutter I already explained precisely what I meant by saying 'my' tech.
We can't really hear Tom's audio in his video very well so I'd try to mitigate that, but cool video dude. Watching Tom in MK9 helped me win a local tournament-He will always have my respect.
Yeah, I realized he was virtually inaudible after the fact...
But yeah, I feel exactly the same way - Tom will always have my respect based on his contributions to the MK community.
Pretty sure you were also the first guy to bring up 1P advantage with video footage and Tom never credited you on that either. When he eventually talked about it he again acted like it was a "known" thing.
And look, this needs to be said, I know you respect the guy, he's charismatic, has good game knowledge and is entertaining but that's it. Guy's surrounded by controversy and always acts like an asshole through much of it but he really lost my respect years ago when he took people's money to enter a tournament, backed out, lied about it and forged receipts, only to get called out and caught on stream by sonicfox. Can't make this up, man.
Just expect nothing from him, keep labbing and sharing your knowledge, peace 🤙
Let shit go Jesus christ lol
Did Tom take money from you personally? Why would you be THAT butthurt about that shit to bring it up again. I get it dude did wrong but for *years* that's all so many people have to say "he's an asshole and he lied one time" Tom has more than gotten his just due on that nonsense specifically because people can't let someone redeem themselves.Same energy with Perfect legend everyone is STILL shitting on PL over the 13-0 it is sooooooo tired at this point.
Street fighter community gets Evo 37 MK just does this bullshit
Thank you for your honesty. A part of me agrees with all of what you said - but I'm hoping that he will turn himself around change his mind on what he will contribute to the community.
Everyone has the capacity to grow, change and learn from the blemishes of the past.
Though I recognize that Tom might settle being exactly the person that you described and wallow in misery, I will still hold out hope that he can listen to a fan - even as I fully understand why you won't hold out that same hope.
Nonetheless, thank you for supporting me - I got more tech where that came from.
@@mrAPchem Yeah, sorry for sounding harsh, but sort of knowing Tom and seeing the effort you constantly put out not only on the tech but in trying to stay positive given MK1's current state and having him not even acknowledge a fellow sub player multiple times really rubbed me the wrong way.
And as for Tom, I think he's too far gone to be honest, not sure if he's struggling with something but I checked out after some livestreams where he just didn't play the game and lashed out at his viewers. It's a shame really as I still think he puts out good entertaining stuff but I just can't support him anymore. But yeah, hope he can get his sh*t together someday.
Take care.
Considering the 40f advantage of air 112 could you please do a research for its mid stage properties with his ice ball which is 39f.I did some labbing and i think you could set a lot of mind gaming. Im not a content creator though but you especially can make some more juice from this. Considering this, i wouldn't suggest a faster ice ball as a buff but an enhanced ice ball with two hit properties. A tricky and invisible buff 😉
Hmmmmm, that is an interesting thought! I do think that 112 in the air certainly does benefit Sub-Zero in ways that might not have been explored yet. But his Ice Ball is close to useless precisely for the reasons that you noted - it is far too slow.
I want the same buff as you - a much faster Ice Ball. For reference, I want it to have the exact same properties as Tanya's projectile, both the normal and EX version.
As for your second buff, I love that idea, but think it would be better applied to the EX-Klone so that he could really trap people.
What are your thoughts?
Faster ice ball😢... that's a wishful thought but we have to be more diplomatic thinking of the treatment subzero has from the beginning. I'm trying to build something based on your discovery. I experimented with subzero cameo and i can say for sure that with the 112 scenarios, subzero is a godlike character in defense and trapping. Im saying this because everyone tries offensive cameos. Sub-zero now is clearly a mid screen character. Standing 2 button, down 4 and now better ice clone cool down, are tools of "wait for the right time", not a "seek and destroy". But im telling you again... with Sub cameo, our boy is in his full arsenal if you play the cards right 🙂
That desktop wallpaper is 🔥 where could I find that at ?
I used Google. I can't remember what site I used, but I typed "Animated Wallpapers Sub-Zero" and eventually found it.
I know I’m probably not the only one but I have been spamming MRAPCHEM in Toms vids lately hoping he caught wind😂 I just personally wanted to know his respected opinion of some the stuff I see here. Much respect you both
Thank you for trying to make him aware of what's out there for Sub-Zero from my channel. I too wanted to see what his thoughts were - especially if he could refine the tech and make it better.
Guess whose on the next podcast?
Subject: I defend MK1 Against Dave And Tom. Should be a fun bit of bantering with good friends.
I gotta watch that one!!!!
You should have should the set up before you started talking cuz I’m like deep into the video and still haven’t even seen anything
@@TeddysStarksGaming What are you talking about?? This isn't a tech video.
Mrapchem the only video I watched of yours was the p1 advantage then I came across this and I have to say u literally are saying what I been saying in mk Tom Brady’s and mike hollows comments that’s people will love mk1 when mk2 comes out, and you don’t have to play mk1 if you don’t like it
Also I agree with everything bro mk Tom Brady literally drops hate video after hate video and him and mike hollow love talking on FATE but they are both pushing the SAME AGENDA as him man it’s literally crazy
And even tho this is a great video most likely people are gonna just look at you as a “shill” bro it seems when people make videos like this and aren’t hating on mk1 they’re “shills”
It’s so stupid bro great video man keep it up 👍🏽
you got my subscription and support💯
Thank you so much for saying this!
@@mrAPchemno problem bro I just wish ppl who don’t like the game would just go else where, I wonder if they will do this for the whole games lifespan
I hate sub zero. I wouldn’t mind he gets nerfed to nothing 😂😂😂
Are you for real? If so, what are you doing watching either my channel or Tom's?
This comes off petty and whiney.
And this comment comes off as infantile.
@mrAPchem Replying to silly insults on youtube is the definition of petty. Thanks for proving me right.
@@Gnolls... And ignoring the point of a video to make an unserious retort is the definition of infantile.
Thank you for proving me correct also.
Much respect man. MK1 is my first MK that i have gotten into and the lack of tech and information on setups can make things difficult to get into. Just making things simpler to understand and to build from is an invaluble tool to any fighting game. As a newer player to the MK series its saddening to see so many people say that it is trash or a waste of money or whatever they say. Not bashing Tom by any means as I know he has done a lot for the communty. You got my sub and I look forward to more tech and combo stuff in the future. I hope that the comminty can come together as a whole to be constructive to hopefully make this game something to enjoy for many. Obviously NRS can't please everyone but I'm sure they take notice and try to implement changes that are positive towards the games balance abd enjoyment. Take care bro bro
Players like you are exactly why I do what I do on my channel! I want as many people playing MK as possible - and at a level in which they fully understand exactly what they are doing in terms of using frame data and using other fundamental FG skills.
And this game MK1 is the perfect game for a newbie to get into because they can learn so much about FGs and explore nearly infinite tech because of the Kameo system. The main problem of this game is that it lacks content - a first for an NRS game - likely because it was rushed out to the public before it was truly ready. Otherwise, the game is super-fun and allows you to use anyone you want and get wins online, even the very worst characters in the game.
I hope that my videos really help you to enjoy this game more. I have more where that came from!
the dive kick can be +20 on hit or 0 on block if you hit them in the foot,if you hit below the knee is -2 on block all the way to 0 the lower you get
True indeed - that's why it's his best move.
Tom Brady would wash this clone in a FT10
And that would prove what exactly???
The main thesis of my response is that Tom was Sub-Zero players' North Star and me and the rest of us were looking to him for guidance only for him to spend his time ranting constantly - until now. I'm asking him to return to form, not step aside.
Talk about missing the entire plot of the film...