Surprising Results In My Hyundai, Kia & Genesis EV Owners Survey!
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I’m on team Dogmode but when I put it up for discussion on Reddit I was surprised to see it wasn’t something everyone thought was a good idea. Seems like a no brainer to me and would be simple to implement with some programming I’m guessing. Not sure about the legalities. I’ve wondered if it might be influenced by culture because it might not be something Koreans can conceive of being important. Who knows.
If you do another survey I'd be curious to know about how often people use V2L and for what use cases. To me it's a killer feature of these vehicles compared to the competition. It was an absolute godsend for us during a recent 37 hour power outage. I wasn't the only one on my block rocking V2L either! You could also ask how many people have set up an inlet and transfer switch like you did. I'm sure there are others who don't do whole-home backup but have used it for camping, tailgating, etc.
I’m part of the EV6 GT demographic! Hoping for a preconditioning button badly.
The regen level preference question is interesting to me, because I use Level 3 exclusively in the hilly city where I live, and then on the road elsewhere, I’m kind of constantly shifting based on traffic congestion and spacing. I use it as “pre-braking” and prefer it to messing with the pedal neutral position with my foot.
Great survey. Loved the recap. Thanks for doing this!
Congratulations on the survey! Really good work.
I completed the survey. I LOVE my Ioniq 6.
You should probably redo this survey. I started having issues such as over heading during charging and 12v now after 9000 miles.I answer No to most some of the issues because i didn't have them at the
time.
I own a 2023 ev6 GT.
Thanks
Thanks for doing this and presenting the data. Fyi, when presenting anything quantitative (e.g. number of owners per level 2 charging current), a histogram (or bar graph if histogram is not an option) is a better way to visualize that than a pie chart. Binary and categorical data is fine in a pie chart, but a bar graph may be better in some cases there as well. You shared the raw data, so we can make our own visualizations which is great, just a pointer for future surveys since you plan on doing more. Good job!
Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately, with Google forms, pie charts are the only output I know of you can get without manipulating the data yourself and that is beyond my abilities or time availability. Someone else could certainly do that for me though if they wanted to.
I’m surprised that about 10% of owners had a serious issue i.e. ICCU or 12Volt battery. An issue that stops the car (ICCU or 12V battery) shouldn’t be that common.
It's new tech and we are the early adopters. I agree it's disappointing but not that surprising.
Fun to see the data from your survey. Of course, you'd get skewed responses from Hyundai owners, given your channel's name, but that's okay. I think the automaker should do a similar survey to gather more accurate results from all its Hyundai/Kia/Genesis owners.
Thank you for your content. I am very likely considering an Ioniq 5 for my next car in a year or two. Keep up the awesome work!
Perhaps another impactful reason more people aren’t using i-Pedal is the fact that these cars are less efficient due to being forced to activate both motors. That’s certainly the reason I avoid it, and people on Facebook groups that ask about efficiency are often turned away from it in responses. I would use it exclusively otherwise, but I’m on Auto as a “set it and forget it” option. I’m a GV60 owner that participated in the survey and my drives are a mix of side streets and highway.
did the survey, great to see.I have the rear noise in my ioniq5, glad to hear there is a a TSB on it, please share the link
As a uk driver i would very much like the top of the infotainment system transposed. Home button the top right where you need to touch it and the staus stuff , like bluetooth connectivity etc on the left. After all its just software. They swap the volume and channel controls over and that's hardware!
I own a Kia EV6 and experience the rattling sound in the back as well. I provided the dealer with you’re RUclips video and the Hynundai service paper. I am waiting for a solution.
On the limited rwd, interesting as we own one, fits our life perfectly and we're not willing to take the range hit for an effectively useless feature, and I think the wheels look way better so.
The range hit is fairly minor, since the AWD models disengage the front motor in eco mode. The AWD models feel much quicker.
What battery percentage do you most often charge your car to? Thats does not necessarily mean on a daily basis… yes i’m charging at 100% every time but at 3 days intervals and it finish charging minutes before i take the car to go work or return home. So i’m in 100% state just a few minutes a week, the rest of time it’s below 90%, even below 80%. And the majority of those charges are made at the lowest amp setting, sometimes on 110v😁
So don’t be so afraid of us that are charging it to 100%🤣
New question…If you have access to an OBD2 device, what is your indicated SoH and categorise in 10a% increments eg 90%-100%; 80%-89% etc
If you answer this question also allow them answer on their current mileage.
I have about 16000 miles and SoH still reads 100%. I'm not sure I believe Mr. BMS on that one
@@BillyONeal there is a buffer which is why it’s 100% and will be for a while yet. On my 58kWh version only 54kwh is useable. The BMS will show 100% SoH until it gets to 53.9kwh or so. Same logic applied to most cars. You would have to do a driving range test to get the real SoH above 54kwh in my case.
Wow the results are pretty telling I didn't realize the quality of those vehicles had improved so much; that is awesome.
Seems like it. We have 65k miles on our 2022 Ioniq 5 with zero issues.
my heating issues acquired after the survey. Now I charge at a much lower state of charge and its not fun at all..
One thing to consider in the future is age as a car with very low use can see more issues than a car that's used every day.
Regarding charging speed issues, I think you need to align that question with the L2 charging speed question. Since lower amperage charging produces less heat, people who charge at lower rates are much less likely to have an issue.
I would like to see how many who charge at 48 amps have an issue. Same for 40 amps, 32 amps, etc. Does the issue disappear at a certain rate?
The charging % question I interpreted totally different than what you explain. I run my car down to about 30-40% and then charge to 100% when I need the car the next day. So I most often charge to 100% like the question said. I don't charge to 100% every day (mostly 1 or 2x a week).
Thanks for the data! 11:09 Honestly, these responses don't surprise me at all. I think we put a little too much focus on DC fast charging when the reality is, having 200 to 300 miles of real-world range means that charging away from home or work will be the exception rather than the rule for a vast majority of drivers.
I'm apart of the 10 people that own a I5N in the survey !!
You forget that some people dont travel. 11% of people have never been out of the state they live in.
also i think the car lovers who need a new car every so often are the loudest on line. people who just buy a car because they need a car arent usually as excited to chat about cars
Or they travel, but only by air, or by bus, or train (yes, you can do it in some parts of the USA), or friends/relatives drive them. Lots of people don't do road trips for whatever reason, and still need a car to get to work / shopping / etc. And those people might be more likely to buy EVs since they will never have to deal with the headaches of public charging.
Farthest I travel from home these days is about 80 miles, so while I do "travel" it's always well within the round trip range of a full charge on my I5.
@@MartysRandomStuff I did one trip this summer where i fast-charged about 15 minutes each direction just so i wouldnt worry about getting home
Questions on car accessories would be interesting. Create categories so it’s not a free text response option. I love accessories too much 😂
I’m not charging at home because of the free EA for two years. And I charge it up to between 90-100. Or where it’s at at the 30 minute charging mark. Once I do charge at home it will be level 2 at 60amps and up to 80%.
Question on amount paid for battery coolant change in USD $ equivalent.
Germany: AWD Unique, Built 3/2023, bought new in 8/2023, 25,000 miles: 2 x 12 V failure, one time after the charging station lost power. Normally charging with about 9 kw at work or at home. Mostly driving in level 3, just in the city with iPedal. And I plan to drive it least until it's out of the 8 year warrenty.
Really like this car... there are just a handfull of annoying things for me...
1, Headlights suck, I wish I could replace them with the ones from the latest model. But might be far too expensive, if at all possible.
2. Rear-windows not closing, when pressing the lock button on the key.
3. Tailgate not automatically opening, when the car is unlocked. When carrying something, passing the car, the doors unlock. Then I'm standing at the tailgate and it doesn't. :( Don't have enough space to make a big circle around the car first.
4. The Bose Sound System - weak system and far away from any premium sound. Sounds also like the crossover has some issue with the mid frequencies (the only reason I miss my previous BMW with a harman/kardon system - way better).
5. Rain sensor has it's own life - normal rain it sometimes goes on interval, low rain it panics (probably remembering heavy rain 10 minutes prior :D)
My EV6 got totalled a few months ago and we don't have the means to replace it right now. 😭 Definitely plan on getting a new one when we can.
I like auto because it reacts faster than I do if traffic slows or stops abruptly.
Question: does anyone simply use a splitter on the same 240v socket as their dryer (rather than having to hire an electrician to create a new one)? If so, any recommendations or strategies?
Yep. For my Ioniq 6 in the garage where the dryer is also located. I use the Parkworld 60325 Dryer Splitter to EV, NEMA 14-30 Male Plug to 14-30. Has worked great with the AIMILER Level 2 Electric Vehicle (EV) Charger(32Amp, 220V-240V, NEMA 14-50 Plug), 25ft Cable ETL Listed Portable Indoor/Outdoor EVSE SAE J1772 EV Car Charging Station. Both purchased through Amazon.
Great info. My Mom still rocks a flip phone like your Dad.
i like the survey idea!! just disappointed you didn't advertise it more/earlier... i missed out!
There were some youTube videos about two owners in Canada who owned Ionic 5s. In both cases, their cars got some road damage to the armor plate under the battery from road debris and on the basis of that (not an examination of the battery) the dealers said the batteries had to be replaced and Hundai had decreed that that damage voided the owner's warranty and the 5 figure replacement cost would not be covered. This resulted in the car being totaled by the insurance company. Do you know about these stories and if so, what might you have discovered by investigating it? Thanks.
Hyundai this week cut prices of Ioniq 5 and 6 in Ireland by €10k. A question on if price cuts have happened since you bought/leased would be useful. It would be an interesting question for Tesla owners for sure 😊
Although I'm in the southern hemisphere I have owned two Hyundai EV's, now on the 2024 Kona EV which I'm really enjoying although would love if Hyundai followed Kia in the headrest department.
Level auto is best for efficiency so I always go with that to maximize range
Hi Ioniq Guy, what a nice list with data.. really valuable, also to me as Ioniq 5 owner. Have you ever thought about a 12v battery protector, that can shut down the 12v battery usage at a certain voltage level and maybe other conditions. At the time the protector has detected a certain level and had to shut down, the battery will remain to have power to still start your car via a reset/maybe manual reset? Until today, I have also the 12v battery problem, that seems to occur when the main car battery has power left but below 20% for 1 or 2 days without driving… greetings from the Netherlands 🙏🏼
i'm waiting for the EV3 to launch and i have saved up enough for a 20% down, ill get the GT-line, this will be my first EV
How long did the factory tyres last in miles would be a good question and if they were replace with an EV specific tyre or not.
@@MrBucko1990 I’ve just changed my tyres. They did 45,000 miles. Unbelievable
please add more color choices for the ioninq 5
Agree 100% about auto regen . I don’t like it at all it’s unpredictable
I honestly would have gotten the Ioniq 6 if it was a liftback...I just can't stomach buying a car that isn't a hatchback or psudo-hatchback like a liftback. I don't need the cargo room all the time, but when I need it, I really need it to be available.
I have a question for E-GMP owners. I have a 2024 EV6 Standard RWD. It started making this high-pitched noise at 60 mph when I accurate or go uphill. Now it does that in 50s as well. The dealer said all EV6s on the lot make the same noise and think it is normal and won't do anything about it. Does anyone have the same issue? Thanks.
The fact that you need to turn on one pedal every time shows you how dumb Hyundai is. What if all your settings had to be reset every time you turned it off. What a dumb design decision by their software team but not surprised cause a lot of other companies also do that for other settings. I'd return the car the second I found that out. Imagine if that applies to a computer or phone and you had to reset all settings every time. All Hyundai owners should email them to save if after you change it.
nice work!
First Thing, Great video, Love the stats.
I'm one of the Auto Re Gen Users. I use level 1 & the left hand paddle to stop the car, I don't always wait for the car to do it by itself so I guess it's a partnership I drive 40 miles a day of highway & city to work. It gives me a more connected driving feel & both motors are not always on therefore more efficient. People think there is only Re Gen Mode 0,1,2,3. But in auto there are extra modes under Smart Re Gen System called Slower, Med, Strong. This might be why people are using it.
I found this video that explains it.
ruclips.net/video/sdxsRhLaYgY/видео.htmlsi=UzuphfBPbFfNeeL0
Keep up the good info
I used an AI tool to cluster the responses to the question "What would you like to see in future software updates?" into 20 different categories, because it is hard to distill something out of the many individual statements. I already tried to post the result twice here and both of my comments were deleted.
So, I can probably only tell you that it works nicely. 😕
Not sure why it's getting deleted. I don't see it in the pending approval section. You can email me at theioniqguy@gmail.com
A majority is more than half. If there's no majority, the largest subset is called a plurality.
Why don't you recommend the Ohmmu?
Because it’s extremely overpriced for what it is. People have taken them apart and they are poorly built.
@@TheIoniqGuy That's too bad. Is there a better LFP 12V option out there? What would you recommend for a replacement 12V battery, if paying out of pocket? AGM deep cycle?
I've been using an Amazon AGM for I think 6 or 7 months now with zero issues. I could buy 4 of them for the price of the Ohmmu.
One factor probably playing into the number of people who don't plan to trade in/upgrade is the combination of folks who purchased/leased and the used EV market absolutely tanking this year. If you bought your car before January there's a good chance you're still years away from breaking even on selling or trading in because you lost $10k-plus in trade-in value.
nice
Few thing are more boring than waiting for someone to read a bunch of stats. Jump to whatever interesting conclusions there might be.
New question…If you have access to an OBD2 device, what is your indicated SoH and categorise in 10a% increments eg 90%-100%; 80%-89% etc
If you answer this question also allow them answer on their current mileage.