The absolute insanity of Takahashi canonizing 4 universes across 3 game seires owned by 3 sperate companies all with a freaking radio in one of the fianl cutscenes is both ridiculous yet perfectly on brand
It’s not really that insane. Dude has a track record of overcomplicating simple things and making it way too confusing. Kind of what the studio does honestly.
Well, Gears did not enter that canon, so you probably mean tbe 3 Sagas and XCX, right? Of course there is the argument that Saga is Gears canon but that's another story and not really officialized.
@Andy Witmyer I think you are overthinking. It's okay to disagree, his videos are cool regardless. I didn't like 3's ending that much but it was nice hearing a different opinion
@AndyWitmyer Eh, at the time he made that XC3 ending video there were a surprising amount of people who didn't really understand what was happening or overlooked vital details.
@AndyWitmyer I really don’t agree with him being obnoxious, I think all the things he tried to explain about the ending were what Takahashi intended for us to take away from the ending. Those of us who would really dig into the meaning of it, that is. It might be disappointing at first and you may not realize at first, but it’s pretty clear at the end of base game that the worlds do eventually merge back together correctly in the way Origin was intended. They just didn’t wanna straight up show that for some reason. Which, that part I understand being disappointed about. The whole thing of just not showing what’s being heavily implied anyway
About the Pneuma core thing: it's what causes the Ouroborous power. What's the biggest strength of Ouroborous? The ability to use any Blade. And what ability did Rex gain when he awakened Pneuma? The ability to use any Blade.
I ADORED seeing all the titans that you could just barely make out in the base game because they were mostly annihilated. ESPECIALLY Gormott. I KNEW that was its head we were fighting in at the opening of the base game.
Wait what? The battlefield was its head? I got none of that lol.. I did enjoy seeing Mor Ardain from a distance but I wish it had been closer at some point.. Apart from what we already knew to be Uraya but this time visible from its open mouth there wasnt that much new titan stuff was there? I need to go back and check 😂
@@ltb1345 Ohhhh right that. Yeah I saw its hollowed out head there. Just wasn't sure which region OP referred to. Wasn't it always kind of shown that Gormott was the snow region in base? At least that's what I always figured. Man I just wish they had us get a bit closer to Mor Ardain.. Though it was cool to see him from Colony 9. I liked that panoramic shot from the town.
It's crazy that I bought XC2 when it came out in 2017 on a whim, and now the Xeno series is my favorite series by FAR. I am so excited for the potential the series has in the future. Thank you Monolith for such great games
Wow. Glad I’m not alone in that exact experience. I had been getting into anime a bit beforehand, then got a Switch for BotW, but wanted to get another big game with greater battery life when BotW drained the OG model in 3 hours of handheld but then Xenoblade had up to 5 hours I heard and it at least looked interesting enough and had the first game on my bucket list. Now it’s my favorite game series ever. Oops.
same kinda, i first got xenoblade 2 because of etika and i was like this game seems kind of cool, but then i never ended up finishing it back then. then once xenoblade 3 was announced, i just went on a full xenoblade marathon playing the definitive edition and 2 and god now i love the series (still gotta play X eventually tho, and now xenosaga lmao)
Lol that's me as well. Saw XC2 in the Switch launch trailer and thought it looked like a cool world and decided to try it not knowing what I was getting into. Man what a ride. By far one of my favorite franchises now.
He completely missed how Takahashi himself confirmed they would be giving one part of the trinity processer to each nia, mio, and na'el to give us the xenosaga reboot where kos-mos is now a robot gormotti. I can't believe this.
Reading the statues in City after beating Future Redeemed was interesting, as I now knew the characters and such, and the random stuff about living for 80 years and mentors made sense now. Also kind of recontextualizes the ending too, as that was the last time anyone from Colony 9 saw or heard of Matty again, except Riku as he lived long enough to recognize his descendants returning
I love Future Redeemed and all the callbacks contained in it. The ending admittedly brought me to tears during the credits (clip show of all the past episodes/games during the credits always gets me emotional lol) While I agree I don't feel like any of the new characters in FR due to not spending a lot of time with them, they were all enjoyable and Matthew was a fun main protagonist. I think he or A were definitely my favorite additions to the cast. As someone who hasn't played any of the Xenosaga games and have next to no idea what they're about, I'm looking forward to taking a crash course on the lore to keep up with all the theories lol
can I say how much better Alpha is as a final boss than Z? This bizarre avant-garde unworldly elegant masked mech thing that oozes power and alien grace, versus a big face that screams. Such an upgrade.
Wish they made the game longer. The exp was so amazing, lore wise exploration, music and battle wise. This literally made my top xeno game tied with xc3. This also made the lore of the main game deeper than I originally thought about it.
I kind of have the opposite opinion on the gameplay progression. I played more casually with a 20+ hr playtime over multiple sessions to make it to the credits, so I never minded some of those kits being a little out the way. Although, I do agree it is annoying that everything was locked behind those kits. Except for Nikol, I ended with everyone’s affinity chart opened and completed and most other slots unlocked.
I’ve essentially scoured the entire map without a guide and have 100% in everything but Enemypedia, but I still ended up missing an Accessory Kit which feels really bad. I feel like they should have placed them within the big story portions because it felt like your group was half-baked for like 90% of the game unless you went out of your way to be an absolute completionist
I’m just super excited for the next game. Xenoblade 1 was my all time favorite game until 3. I can’t wait to see what they do now that the Klaus saga is over. The curiosity of one man really gave us the best video game series ever.
I'm taking the Project Exodus reference to be a simple declaration that "Xenoblade X isn't going to be left behind". It's extremely difficult for it to be directly related, but that doesn't mean we can't get the rest of that universe's ideas. Heck, Elma could even still show up as a character, just with a new backstory more friendly to Blade and Saga.
I mean, take it as when Klaus was doing his experiment the aliens showed up to continue that line and everyone needed to leave asap for some reason which rolled into X. Honestly I can see it that with in that 2 hour window in which Klaus was being Klaus lots of other stuff happened to create a branching effect.
My pet theory is that X Earth is an alternate Earth from the one seen in Xenoblade 1-3 but Mira is the world Alpha planned to take the city humans too.
@@the_maker1841 I haven't played Xenosaga so am not 100% sure about this, but isn't one of the like most important characteristics of Xenosaga's universe the fact that humans are all alone in the universe/no other intelligent life was found despite interstellar travel? That seems like a major conflict, but there's likely going to be a degree of synthesis of different aspects of each canon to make them fit. Like Xenoblade X &/or Xenosaga may not literally be made canon in their entirety but large portions of the ideas and story bits could be introduced to Xenoblade.
@@torrent5018 it is a good point of the xenosaga of the idea they are alone. I more follow the branch idea that Ina time frame or something caused different events. I have mostly spit ball. Yet I think X is either set as a simulation event that is being used when exodus is being planned out to see how well space colonization could go and of we could overcome another species (which ends up not caring much in the xenosaga line as they are alone). The earth blowing up and everything could be used to keep those in the simulation grounded in said simulated world. Yet they actually get to their given goal and that is where we find nothing is there. No lifehold, no computer to make real bodies. Just Elma's. The other side is that the event the Klaus triggered effected alot more than what we see and the aliens and such are a product to then go after earth and then the such of X happens. Much like how it was pointed out in this video, X has lots of contradictory lore but this also can point that X's world could very much be a product of something completely different than Xenosaga or Xenoblade 1,2, and 3. Then again, it could be the devs making a reboot to X as they now have a more solid direction and watch as all of the X cult fans die inside as our theories get thrown out.
Honestly, I've always thought they shared a universe- the war that resulted in Earth's destruction in X always felt weird to me, and after seeing in XC2 how the Artifices were fighting up in space, I can totally see a way to either 1. Retcon the nature of the battle or 2. Make those artifices effectively be Skells. It's not that much of a reach to make it work- a remake of XCX could easily patch up the holes.
As someone who has been on X copium for years, I understand there is little chance at a solid connection, but i will hold faith that Takahashi isn't just whipping out names that connect to X as just an easter egg in the same breath that he's connecting the blade games to saga, and that we may get something real sooner or later (aka, i'm upping the copium dosage)
I see it as both an easter egg and not. They cannot be talking about the same project here. It is not possible. The universe is just in an entirely different state. But that doesn't mean there is no connection whatsoever.
X remaster and sequel are an inevitability. The issue here is that it can not be the set in the same galaxy as the Klaus Trilogy. They will be probably connect it with the numbered title someday but not with the information FR is teasing, that’s moreso suggesting Saga will be play some sort of central role in the next saga of Xenoblade.
@@ZephyrK_ it absolutely can be in the same as the Klaus triolgy. We don’t really know anything about the surrounding universe. And we don’t know what the conflict that kicked everything off was
You can actually fit X if no need for retcons, only needing that they stick strong to the concept of eternal reocorrence. And it goes like this: On the merged "New Earth" (lets call it like that) from years after 3 ending, whose people (from 1 and 2) were already very tech advanced, go on to advance even more, and eventually depart to conquer galaxies, they are what eventually becomes the Samaarian federation (at the down of time, they came in from another plane, as per X, just like happened when the XC2 universe came in from another plane, to merge). They expand so much that at some distant future, the "New Earth" ends up forgotten/lost. They continue to evolve and change. Eventually at some point in the distant future, they decided to terraform yet a new Earth, or even, a new solar system (they have so much tech that they can make even this at this point), let´s call it Earth 2, and they make sure to guide evolution there to go as they see fit for their purposes, and then, bioengineer what is supposed to serve as their failsafe (Humans from Xenoblade X), and we know from X that the Samaarians have this level of bioengineering tech, from Xenoblade X quests. Or alternatively, they get to the point of technology of dimension travel (not far fetched, given what XC1/2 people tech did with Origin, and how much tech those people would have at this point I am describing, and the fact many universes is canon to blade), and apply all this to that dimension primitive Earth. More years passes by, Earth 2 evolved to the point where we see in the beggining of Xenoblade X. Earth 2, just like old "New Earth", also has get to a point of having a Coalition government (eternal reocorrence, so ok for the similarity actually), but Earth 2 does not have the Conduit nor the towers . Elma, who maybe could be a possibly modern Samaarian (maybe one of the few left, as the rest mixed and shaped to other races, as they expanded to become a mega galatic empire), that does not agree with the current path and ethics of modern Samaar federation, goes to Earth 2 and warns X humans of the imminent treat. White whale leaves Earth 2, and , "by coincidence" (there are quests that imply that may have actually be driven by some force), lands in none other then old "New Earth"/Lost Earth, there is, "New Earth" millions of year after 3 ending. Or in the other alternative I mentioned, this force that guided then to Earth 2 is what made them swap dimension (still believable given some of the phenomena surrounding Mira, like the Ganglion and the ma-non being led to there in a flash of light). Nopons were native of "New Earth" and unlike old Humans/now Samaarians, some remains there, which makes sense in this scenario. And the reason why humans did not die after the memory storage of the lifehold got wrecked, is because something in "New Earth" also has the capacity to store data and "souls", Origin, who was in "New Earth" since the merge between 1 and 2 eons in the past by now, (something about this planet). Meaning, that last shot in Future redeemed is indeed the white whale crashlanding, and those humans from X name the old "New Earth", Mira (the sequence gives no indication of how much time passed, could be on a cosmic scale as far as we know). Mira geology does lend it itself to this scenario, as, how merged XC1/2 worlds would look like after millenia has passed. As a extra, from the distance from "New Earth" of that shot in future redeemed, a human sized cyborg should not be possible to see, but a ship the size of the white whale could. So X happens millenia after the ending of 3, a time scale that has precedent in the franchise. And the eternal reocorrence do makes history in these two Earths flowing similar, credible, within what the franchise themes has worked on. Here is more believable than the retcons about Dimitri that and the others needed for Saga, for instance. This is just one example of possibly others where Monolith Soft, the actual creators of the franchise, could fit X without the need of retcons or minimal retcons, just the need to stick a bit strongly on eternal reocorrence.
If I had a nickel for every time the third entry in a Xeno franchise concluded with the credits song coming back for a final, solemn verse as we see something blue flying towards a planet, thus ending the game on a hopeful note with a semi-ambiguous hint of things to come...
Matthew is one of my most like characters for the length of the story. Chad-asorus-rex is awesome but in this story Mathew's persinality explains so much of how the city and the hope was carried on. The kids were awesome, it felt they were more devices to show rex's and shulk's character growth into fathers. Many small scenes at the camps or in the background just made the dad vibes awesome. I do feel they got shafted on character growth but what can you do in 10 hours worth of main story. Shulk and Rex are giga dads and love that at the end A reminds them they can't go to far, yet they want to so bad. The story was a great closure for the main game and a good epilog for the 1st and 2nd games. Specially that radio mind blowing info dump. The theories of Xeno games with mainly X in my mind, are going to get crazy. I think it strengthened my theory of how Klaus's experiment and actions were happening around the same time that X's alien invasion and a branch was created at that time frame. Klaus did his thing and made the Xenoblade 1, 2, and 3 arcs. At the same time i believe earth was in danger of some stuff from either ailen invasion to world collapsing actions. Either way it seems that Xenogears and X also had their kick off from there as well. I need to go back and play/look at Xc2 and Xc1 to verify if the station Klaus and Co were on was being attacked by something. Anyway, just rambling at this point but it looks good for the theoriests. Game play - Affinity system hit take, I like it. Yet i am not a speed runner or anything. I get distracted easily and curious about stuff. So i am glad i get more rewarded for my playstyle in this game. I didn't like Tora's implementation but Future redeemed's way of going about it was perfect for me. Music: the base combat OST is probably my favorite in the fanchise. It has such a cool vibe. My friend and I noticed how the chain attack music had a blend of Xc1 and Xc2 chain attack music which was awesome. I think noah throwing the sword is more symbolic. I don't think it really means anything of throwing the 2 wifes away. More of moving forward. But building on i did like how it showed the planets coming together and becoming one. Shows that we did thebright thing as at some point the worlds merge together. Overall i loved this and Xc3. I am looking forward to what is instore for us in the future. I now need to replay X to refresh my mind to better write a dissertation on everything that radio dropped.
I doubt we'll ever see it but I do love the mental image of KOSMOS falling to Earth, getting herself up and being very confused by the presence of Nopon and catpeople
I feel like this is gonna be a situation where the blue light ends up being something completely different from Kosmos or the White Whale/Elma and all us Saga and X fans will feel kinda silly afterwards but that might just be me being pessimistic. I seriously hope it's Kosmos though. That was my first thought when I saw it and it actually works in the lore of both series.
@@LainK1978 Tbh, is Xenogears even still on the radar? It feels like a lot of important things happened since that make the lore very awkward. The main thing being that Xenogears being canon would imply that the explanation for its Zohar would also logically apply to the Saga-Zohar and the Conduit, because they make it clear that the diffrent counterparts of the object share similar powers and meanings. And at that point, it gets very dicey.
All the implications and connections aside, I love how FR elevated the whole main game. Many gripes I had with XBC3 are now gone. Z got a few new aspects to him that make him more tangible, N got much more to his motivation and the whole 1st City thing makes sense. And even Noah being there although N exists makes now sense as well. The whole radio thing and that stuff is just the cherry on top. FR gave me everything I wanted.
It’s also worth mentioning that KOS-MOS’ Episode 3 Database Entry says: “A blue light penetrates her battered and faded figure. Perhaps that light will be the cause of a new awakening.” 🧐
I'd really love to see a Xenosaga reboot as someone that's never played it. With how Monolithsoft creates their games, I'm sure it'd be FANTASTIC Also, my headcanon is that Matthew left the city and encountered an iteration of Noah on his journey. He then gave the gauntlets to Noah and that's why his blade looks the way it does. I'm pretty sure it looked like that even before Riku gave him Lucky 7. Maybe Pneuma just latched onto Noah's soul and that's why he'd continue to have it
I agree that Shulk in future redeemed was a bit lackluster gameplay-wise, but when you unlock him and Rex in the base game, they change his skills and one of his new ones is gentleman's valor, when is a really easy party wide awakening, and he has good chain attack bonuses as well, so while Rex is the Masterful King in Future Redeemed, Shulk is Grand in the base game
@ObviousBaitAccount yeah, beat Future Redemed to unlock a challenge battle in the base game, and that unlocks shulk and rex as heroes in the base game. Unfortunately, you can't unlock their classes like you can with the rest of the heroes, but they are solid picks for party comps. Rex, especially for no-tank setups that abuse protecter's pride
A question I still have after all this is about Mythra's kid. I really don't remember there being any reference at all to her child and I'm genuinely curious. Given how they showed us Mio (Nia's), Glimmer (Pyra's), Nikol (Shulk/Fiora's), Panacea (Reyn/Sharla's) and Linka (Zeka/Pandoria's), it feels weird that one gets left out.
Honestly, my personal theory is that said child is male, and greatly resembles the younger version of Rex seen back in XC2, only with blond hair (kinda like a counterpart to Nikol, who greatly resembles the younger version of Shulk seen back in XC1, but with Fiora’s hair and eye color) …and that this character would be a party member in the theoretical next game
@@Dharengo Because they're the only one left out? Also, Future Redeemed seemed like a finale of sorts for the Xenoblade 1/2/3 arc, so it would give a bit of closure. Plus there's the fact that we've met the children of the other protagonists with ship tease, but not Mythra's.
@@cybertramon0012 Wdym only ones left out? What about Morag's children? Or do you just randomly assume she doesn't have any? Same goes for Reyn, Zeke, Tora, Juju, Mikail, the list continues. Your use of the word 'closure' implies some sort of unresolved issue or plot thread. But I have no idea what that could be.
I'm guessing 2 things. Either is Takahashi reimagining Saga's lore/events into Blade's or there's some strong story and timelines lore that we didn't know just yet between Blades, Saga, X. If it that was our original KOSMOS in FR post ending, does that mean that similar events between Saga and Blades are occurring at the same time, but in different timeline and universes? Also, they could start Saga 4 and Blade 4 together, by merging the plot that Takahashi was originally envisioned for Episode 4 into the new plot and new world for Xenoblade 4. This is just my mind creating something in between these
I actually liked how some power up’s were unlocked through exploration because it gave a pretty good incentive to explore the areas. I never really liked exploring until postgame in xenoblade because I didn’t really feel that compelled. It probably wouldn’t work in a full xenoblade game anyway, but for expansion story it’s not that bad of an idea.
Yeah the exploration for progression was something I really liked here, and I think it only really could work in something like Future Redeemed where it, like Torna before it, benefits from the much smaller map allowing for more tightly-designed and interesting areas to explore, and the X-reader was another crucial piece of that imo.
I still feel like Xenoblade X has to fit into this somehow. The radio is obviously what Takahashi meant about how Future Redeemed will hint at the future of the series, and it would be really weird for the radio's references to one game/series be direct connections while the references to the other game/series be just Easter eggs. It's something we can't really just pick and choose. My guess is Xenosaga, the main Xenoblade series, and Xenoblade X are all connected to each other in _some_ manner, but not within a shared, linear timeline. Maybe it's parallel universes with similar events up to when humanity finds the Zohar but then it splits from there. Maybe it's related to the Eternal Recurrence. Maybe it's in a manner we don't know yet. I'm not sure. But I'm looking forward to seeing what will come in the future, and I'm also hopeful we'll finally get something new Xenosaga-related, be it a remaster, remake, or a new game.
You can actually fit X if no need for retcons, only needing that they stick strong to the concept of eternal reocorrence. And it goes like this: On the merged "New Earth" (lets call it like that) from years after 3 ending, whose people (from 1 and 2) were already very tech advanced, go on to advance even more, and eventually depart to conquer galaxies, they are what eventually becomes the Samaarian federation (at the down of time, they came in from another plane, as per X, just like happened when the XC2 universe came in from another plane, to merge). They expand so much that at some distant future, the "New Earth" ends up forgotten/lost. They continue to evolve and change. Eventually at some point in the distant future, they decided to terraform yet a new Earth, or even, a new solar system (they have so much tech that they can make even this at this point), let´s call it Earth 2, and they make sure to guide evolution there to go as they see fit for their purposes, and then, bioengineer what is supposed to serve as their failsafe (Humans from Xenoblade X), and we know from X that the Samaarians have this level of bioengineering tech, from Xenoblade X quests. Or alternatively, they get to the point of technology of dimension travel (not far fetched, given what XC1/2 people tech did with Origin, and how much tech those people would have at this point I am describing, and the fact many universes is canon to blade), and apply all this to that dimension primitive Earth. More years passes by, Earth 2 evolved to the point where we see in the beggining of Xenoblade X. Earth 2, just like old "New Earth", also has get to a point of having a Coalition government (eternal reocorrence, so ok for the similarity actually), but Earth 2 does not have the Conduit nor the towers . Elma, who maybe could be a possibly modern Samaarian (maybe one of the few left, as the rest mixed and shaped to other races, as they expanded to become a mega galatic empire), that does not agree with the current path and ethics of modern Samaar federation, goes to Earth 2 and warns X humans of the imminent treat. White whale leaves Earth 2, and , "by coincidence" (there are quests that imply that may have actually be driven by some force), lands in none other then old "New Earth"/Lost Earth, there is, "New Earth" millions of year after 3 ending. Or in the other alternative I mentioned, this force that guided then to Earth 2 is what made them swap dimension (still believable given some of the phenomena surrounding Mira, like the Ganglion and the ma-non being led to there in a flash of light). Nopons were native of "New Earth" and unlike old Humans/now Samaarians, some remains there, which makes sense in this scenario. And the reason why humans did not die after the memory storage of the lifehold got wrecked, is because something in "New Earth" also has the capacity to store data and "souls", Origin, who was in "New Earth" since the merge between 1 and 2 eons in the past by now, (something about this planet). Meaning, that last shot in Future redeemed is indeed the white whale crashlanding, and those humans from X name the old "New Earth", Mira (the sequence gives no indication of how much time passed, could be on a cosmic scale as far as we know). Mira geology does lend it itself to this scenario, as, how merged XC1/2 worlds would look like after millenia has passed. As a extra, from the distance from "New Earth" of that shot in future redeemed, a human sized cyborg should not be possible to see, but a ship the size of the white whale could. So X happens millenia after the ending of 3, a time scale that has precedent in the franchise. And the eternal reocorrence do makes history in these two Earths flowing similar, credible, within what the franchise themes has worked on. Here is more believable than the retcons about Dimitri that and the others needed for Saga, for instance. This is just one example of possibly others where Monolith Soft, the actual creators of the franchise, could fit X without the need of retcons or minimal retcons, just the need to stick a bit strongly on eternal reocorrence.
@@joebilly3719I think it's easier just to have the people from Xenoblade X having left Earth immediately before Klaus's experiment. War had been ongoing on the planet at the time, effects from Klaus's experiment had impacts on the planet before the wiping out everyone. Or even not everyone was, but they quickly abandoned the planet before it was overran by the alien looking creatures seen in the Land of Morytha. Then things that they came across later were associated with those incidents.
Hey Enel, not sure if you were already planning on this, but I feel like it would be useful to many people if in a section of a future video, like the one about good accessories locations video if you would put the locations of the accessory/ gem/ art unlock locations as they are easy to miss and can take hours to find. Sorry if this was off topic and long but I just wanted to put this out, thank your for your time.
It was weird to me how Moebius and flame clocks, which were an imposing force in the original game, meant so little this time. Except N, since it's N. They had 3 people who could cut flame clocks this time, which is just... wild
Four people. Remember that A also has a monado. When your party is stacked with what is essentially the enemies' kryptonite, you know they're going to be a cake walk.
I mean you fight 2 Mobeuis at level 6. When did we fight the first official Mobius in K? His boss fight being lvl 17. 2 rather easy Mobieus at a combined level of 12 vs 17, which combined with the Ethel being 16. Yeah they were push overs
Connecting Blade, X, Saga and Gears in the end is a very bold move and while my fan heart was in awe I was also worried which direction this might lead to in the future. Time to replay Gears and Saga 2 and 3 (just replayed 1 recently) to prepare for the future :) also fingers crossed for an X port on Switch :)
Despite not playing saga or knowing anything about it despite kos-mos, I still got pretty hyped at the radio. I recognized project exodus, and could tell that they were referencing other games with all these name and organizations drops. So I couldn’t wait for someone to explain, like this video.
Honestly hope that given the lore present in the FR's radio, that a potential Xenosaga trilogy remaster/remake/port could come over to modern consoles. Having the games on modern consoles would be cool enough as is, but a remake could help out each game in the trilology imo with some QOL improvements. XS1 could use some speedups in battle animations, make enemy boost turns more fair/clearer rules, and streamline menus. XS2 ideally could tweek damage numbers/scaling, also speed up combat animations, and rework the games's artstyle and character designs to be less weird. XS3 needs the least changes, but a hard mode that pushes the games combat to its limit would be nice, given how utterly broken so many things in the game are.
Kinda bummed out that I didn't get to lose my shit with the radio scene like I did in the "The Birth of a Universe" cutscene in XC2. I hope the Xenosaga series gets remakes for added context or I'll have to emulate it otherwise since there's no official way to obtain it today
I always see most people like Rex more because most modern Xenoblade players started with 2. I do like Shulk more than Rex mostly due to his personality and his story. Shulk is one of the main characters that is out for blood in the beginning of the game and is able to show a darker side until he develops as a character. Also Shulk has best VA no questions asked out if the main characters.
This DLC confirmed for me that the name “lucky seven” is a meta reference to the seven main xeno series games. Crazy that they might all come together in the future. We’ll have to wait and see!
It means a lot for Xenoblade, yes; but oh my is this the most hype thing I've ever played. I jumped out of my chair when I saw what looked like Fifth Jerusalem. I spiked my controller when I saw that Vector radio, then I squealed with glee at that Dimitri name-drop!!! And of course there was that blue light at the end of the credits...how about Project Exodus! Oh my, even the signal is reminiscent of X's intro. I'm still going wild...anybody want to talk about Philadelphia-class motherships?
Great analysis Enel, the radio was kind of shocking when I first got to the ending. I wouldnt be surprised if Monolith was working on a Saga remaster or remake to retcon it into the main Xenoblade series. The stories broadly fit together, so it wouldn't be difficult to make changes to the story, where the original Saga is one timeline of events, and another timeline leads to Xenoblade or something. My biggest worry about this radio was the Xenoblade X implications. Xenoblade X''s story and overall feel are very different from the main series, and I think adding things like the Ganglion or aliens into the main series in the way that X does it would sort of taint the original isolated story of Klaus and the Conduit. Overall I'm excited to see where the series goes, but I cant help but worry.
I wouldn't worry too much. Monolith always knows how to surprise us. My expectations are extremely high and they always surpass them. There isn't a saga that makes me nearly as happy as xenoblade
The original isolated story with Klaus was already tainted when they decided to connect it with XC2. As for X feeling different. It really doesn’t. And XC2 is a thing.
@@mrbubbles6468 dude that was the best thing. I was extremely happy when I saw 2's ending. Haven't seen many games do that. The whole Klaus saga is a masterpiece.
The main argument for an X connection is that Mira being Origin would very neatly wrap up the cliffhanger X ended on. Also I think the Earth wasn't actually destroyed but was sucked into a pocket dimension where 2 took place. 1 and 2's universes appear to be of similar size in 3 when colliding, so it would make sense for both to be pocket dimensions.
Klaus really screwed reality over, but from what i understood was that the reality was split but they are somehow running parralel to each other , so they technically are both earth just the time lines are different, as one is where Klaus succeded and the other is where crap hit the fan,infact you could say its like pyra and mithra both split from pneuma, both are her and not her, and for them to exist together pneuma had to go, so after three you could say earth is not the same earth anymore
I beat this game on the second night it came out (due to sadly being super tired from travelling across the UK that day, although I still managed to do half of the DLC's story before conking out) and I was freaking out about 'the radio' too. All of my friends have yet to beat FR so I still have had no one to truly talk about all the lore implications behind it, but I completely agree with your spoiler section on it.
If Mira and Origin are connected, it could very handily explain away the issues that crop up with the aliens. Entirely possible that the aliens are some weird construct created by a cast-out dying and/or corrupted Origin. After all, we know it's possible for it to alter memories.
I think FR really encapsulates the series and gives us everything we need to be satisfied, but also have hope for the future of the series. I would love the next Monolith game taking place on this world and giving context to how it developed after the merge. Because this could give more context to Noah disappearing or at least maybe mention it vaguely 1000s of years after the fact. I do like thinking about the gang from both 1 & 2 developing the world together without having to worry about moebius or annihilation events. The way Rex, Shulk, & "Alvis" walked out was awesome. The fact that they were there for a specific purpose makes sense why certain characters didn't show up but were mentioned. I do like how the song is like a heartfelt goodbye to Blade, but I really like the fact that the world's did come back together as one thanks to Origin. Which speaking of, is the only way for X to make sense because of the lifehold reference. Overall though, the organization in this game was so pleasing to 100%. I can tell how frustrating it will be to speedrun though. And the community was so much better than in Torna. Which makes me not want to forget how Riki gave us the greatest Nopon ever in Riku who just knew the assignment just like Rex and Shulk did. Anyway, I've never played Saga, but I kinda want to now 😂 especially with your explanation here. Looking forward to Luxin's deep dive. Now all I need to know is why are we getting Noah and Mio amiibos and what they will do if we're moving on 🤔
I don't know if you saw it, but there was also an interesting scene with Lucky Seven, where Riku told us what exactly it was, as well as telling us his Masterpon and implying who his father is
I've been super excited for a week and I have no one to talk to about it because I'm the only big Xeno fan in my friend group. I feel like I'm gonna explode having no one in my life who cares but what am I gonna do? Xenogears and Xenosaga are still incredibly fresh in my mind due to having just experienced them in the past couple months so yeah, I absolutely lost it at the radio scene and the post-credits scene. I was really hyped because of the X stuff too but now that some time has passed and I'm off the copium, it's probably just references sadly lol. Maybe one day X fans will get their day in the sun, they still got those cliffhangers after all. I think the Xenosaga stuff is still pretty hype though, I hope they at least bring the trilogy to Switch one day. Good video, can't wait for Luxin's feature-length film :)
The way character progression was handled, being tied to side content, reminded me a lot of how Persona handles things, especially since I was playing Persona 5 Royal just before the release date was announced. You can ignore the side content if you really want too, but you’re making things noticeably harder on yourself if you do so. You theoretically can finish P5R without doing Confidants, but you miss out on a lot of perks and Persona Fusions are all around weaker. By the same token, you can just follow the story path in FR, but then your party is much weaker because you can’t fill out their Skill Trees.
I loved all of the callbacks, especially when kids were requesting Na’el to play Gaur Plain, The Tomorrow With You, and Bringer of Chaos! Ultimate on the piano
Takahashi really just said "you know what this game needs? A complete mindfuck. I feel like the fans need a good one." And we were all like "YES PLEASE"
Oh man... the feeling i had when i saw that fucking radio. I was loud. Too loud. Thinking back on it I could cry. But the double whammy with Dmitri yuriev. Smashed that fucking home button and just jumped with joy. I love this fucking franchise bro. Great video
Funny thing about the radio scene: I wasn't paying attention to the radio at all, I was paying attention to the conversation between Na'el and Matthew, but I took a glance at the radio's subtitles RIGHT when Dmitri Yuriev was mentioned and I went "WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE HERE, WHAT!?!?" and had to rewatch the entire scene again but paying attention the the radio. It was pretty crazy, admittedly.
I haven't played Xenosaga but my eyes were glued to the radio the whole time because I knew something important was being said here lmao. Glad you could explain how significant it actually was
That dlc actually blew my mind. I didn’t expect them to show the things they did. I don’t know what this means for the lore. But (not actually a spoiler but kinda is if you use context) I wonder if X can somehow be connected seeing what they were willing to do.
Part of me wants the connection to Xenosaga to be kinda loose in the same way that Gears and Saga aren't direct sequels. They're alternate universes that share the same ideas. I don't see why Xenoblade can't just be using those terms as common world building elements. That said I would loooove a Xenosaga remaster.
I do still think that Xenoblade X could be connected. Honestly It's possible that X's universe is an alternate one created by the people of Xenoblade/Xenosaga. Because Xenoblade X has the Samaarians as progenitors, and the Samaarians are humans from another universe.
@@Dharengo yeah, I remember this fact from X too, although I can't remember exactly where it was mentioned. I think in one of Luxor's speeches? My original thought for all these years was that the Samaarians from X were a group of people who were thrown into the X universe with Klaus' experiment, while the rest went to Bionis. But in light of Future Redeemed idk anymore, gonna need to theorize some more, haha
You can actually fit X if no need for retcons, only needing that they stick strong to the concept of eternal reocorrence. And it goes like this: On the merged "New Earth" (lets call it like that) from years after 3 ending, whose people (from 1 and 2) were already very tech advanced, go on to advance even more, and eventually depart to conquer galaxies, they are what eventually becomes the Samaarian federation (at the down of time, they came in from another plane, as per X, just like happened when the XC2 universe came in from another plane, to merge). They expand so much that at some distant future, the "New Earth" ends up forgotten/lost. They continue to evolve and change. Eventually at some point in the distant future, they decided to terraform yet a new Earth, or even, a new solar system (they have so much tech that they can make even this at this point), let´s call it Earth 2, and they make sure to guide evolution there to go as they see fit for their purposes, and then, bioengineer what is supposed to serve as their failsafe (Humans from Xenoblade X), and we know from X that the Samaarians have this level of bioengineering tech, from Xenoblade X quests. Or alternatively, they get to the point of technology of dimension travel (not far fetched, given what XC1/2 people tech did with Origin, and how much tech those people would have at this point I am describing, and the fact many universes is canon to blade), and apply all this to that dimension primitive Earth. More years passes by, Earth 2 evolved to the point where we see in the beggining of Xenoblade X. Earth 2, just like old "New Earth", also has get to a point of having a Coalition government (eternal reocorrence, so ok for the similarity actually), but Earth 2 does not have the Conduit nor the towers . Elma, who maybe could be a possibly modern Samaarian (maybe one of the few left, as the rest mixed and shaped to other races, as they expanded to become a mega galatic empire), that does not agree with the current path and ethics of modern Samaar federation, goes to Earth 2 and warns X humans of the imminent treat. White whale leaves Earth 2, and , "by coincidence" (there are quests that imply that may have actually be driven by some force), lands in none other then old "New Earth"/Lost Earth, there is, "New Earth" millions of year after 3 ending. Or in the other alternative I mentioned, this force that guided then to Earth 2 is what made them swap dimension (still believable given some of the phenomena surrounding Mira, like the Ganglion and the ma-non being led to there in a flash of light). Nopons were native of "New Earth" and unlike old Humans/now Samaarians, some remains there, which makes sense in this scenario. And the reason why humans did not die after the memory storage of the lifehold got wrecked, is because something in "New Earth" also has the capacity to store data and "souls", Origin, who was in "New Earth" since the merge between 1 and 2 eons in the past by now, (something about this planet). Meaning, that last shot in Future redeemed is indeed the white whale crashlanding, and those humans from X name the old "New Earth", Mira (the sequence gives no indication of how much time passed, could be on a cosmic scale as far as we know). Mira geology does lend it itself to this scenario, as, how merged XC1/2 worlds would look like after millenia has passed. As a extra, from the distance from "New Earth" of that shot in future redeemed, a human sized cyborg should not be possible to see, but a ship the size of the white whale could. So X happens millenia after the ending of 3, a time scale that has precedent in the franchise. And the eternal reocorrence do makes history in these two Earths flowing similar, credible, within what the franchise themes has worked on. Here is more believable than the retcons about Dimitri that and the others needed for Saga, for instance. This is just one example of possibly others where Monolith Soft, the actual creators of the franchise, could fit X without the need of retcons or minimal retcons, just the need to stick a bit strongly on eternal reocorrence.
@@Galaxy40k I mean, maybe? It is stated that people and objects from earth vanished to somewhere else and we know they didn't get sucked into the Xenoblade 1 world because nothing showed up there besides Zanza, Mayneth and Ontos.(At least assuming no further retcons)
Honestly think both Lucky Seven and Matthew’s fist are powered by the Pneuma core instead of one being Logos. Literally based on Rex’s dialogue and the *they*, he refers too is Pyra and Mythra, because something similar happened to when Rex said if * Those two* were here. It makes clear that both are powered by the pneuma core.
The Logos core I believe is in N's weapon. Pneuma's core is in Matthew's. The swords forged from Origin merely act as conduits to unleash their full power. That's the implication I think. That blade is then either given to a version of Noah who then has it through his numerous cycles OR Matthew finds a way to essentially insert that blade into the network that all the various inhabitants draw their blades and the Pneuma core waited until the right user came along.
@@Nuvendil the problem with that is that it is stated in game that Matthew got the core from his grandfather, which he got it from his parents. And the shade/core was passed from father to son. So yes it’s implied that N’s sword is also pneuma.
So, coming from someone who hasnt played X, what if Project Exodus was reworked at the last moment to be the last ditch effort instead of the colonization of the universe? The dates not lining up is definitely a tell of the connection not being there, but in theory, dates and times could get jumbled during humanity's literal extinction event (if im reading into it correctly) to attempt to find a suitable planet/system to evacuate to and start anew. Im willing to be wrong, and I have only half of the story since again, I have not played X. Food for thought though, I found it interesting on how Monolith intertwined the whole of the Xeno series.
I really think they're more so going to take ideas, concepts, and many other things from Xenosaga and Xenoblade X and even Xenogears (Stuff in Xenoblade 3 concepts from 3) and incorporate them into into Xenoblade. Rewrite/retell to make them all fit a little better and give a more conclusive vibe to those project that didn't get to reach their full ambition. Xenoblade 4 or whatever it will be called maube starts a new saga involving those concepts and ideas. Be interesting to experience a Xenoblade storyline set with space travel
Take the time u need I love ur guides!! Sometimes I still watch ur Fiora, Corvin, Cos Mos and qtPi guides just cuz I love breaking the game. Excited to see what u have in store!
I appreciate that I now have enough knowledge of xenosaga to also immediately think the blue light falling to the earth was a reference to Kos-mos. Never played xenosaga myself only watched the play through you did, so I knew damn well I was missing something in the radio when it started dropping names and talking bout space travel but at least I caught the big one at the end there.
I love this expansion so much, might be my favorite besides Torna given how much you’re rewarded for exploring. While this could be Shulk and Rex’s last appearance outside of spinoff games like Smash, it’s is sad but also a good farewell. They were really done amazing in FR and I had fun using them one last time. Takahashi took us for a wild ride and I can’t wait to see where his next trip takes us, definitely looking forward to Xenoblade Chronicles 4, or whatever he calls the next Xeno series!
Ever since I saw the conduit in XBC2 I had in my mind that Wilhem manipuleted Claus. I mean he could be behind Deus and other things. It would be interesting to see all 4 lines combine into one. XCX could be it's own pocket dimension aswell as the gears cast, only the saga one being outside of that.
Based on that one little conversation between elma, rex, kos-mos, and shulk in Xenoblade 2, I don't think Takahashi is going to directly exclude any of the series from this point forward whether that be saga or X. I would say we'll at least get an X DE and a xenosaga trilogy each with retcons kind of like xenoblade 1 got since the series has gained so much popularity. Heck Harada said xenosaga was going to get remastered at one point, it just wasn't financially viable at the time.
I was already a fan of Rex, but now he's goated for me. From his intro in the game I didn't stop using him! Not only is he a Gigachad, but he's an absolute unit in combat. His damage potential is ridiculous :D
Also, *SPOILERS* About the Logos implication. So would it be like Pneuma having used her data of him to recreate a core crystal to complete the processor? I know Malos kinda did that to restore himself at the Cliffs of Morytha, but at the end of 2, he was _destroyed._ Like completely. Also the worlds combining means Noah and Mio DO reunite definitively! :D Also I don't think it is stated at any point in 1 2 or 3 that there is no extra-terrestrial life.
Damn this one good discussion about Future Redeemed From Gameplay, Characters Features, Story, & Lore You Really Went in with the Lore halfway through the video Xenosaga Blade it sounded almost like you threw Xenoblade X under the BUS lol good vid 👍
There's a lot of stuff in Future Redeemed that just feels so cathartic to uncover, mostly because of how bluntly it just ties certain topics together. Just in case, I don't wanna spoil anyone wandering around in the comments; It's just stuff like "Yeah, Alvis was Ontos. Like, the whole time, as part of the Processor, in tow with Pneuma and Logos.", y'know, that thing we've speculated and all but confirmed, but never had an actual answer for for years now? There's no beating around the bush, just straight to the point, the writers respect the time and dedication of the long-time Xeno fans enough to simply hand the answer to you. Like, they already know that we know, but it's that little nugget of concrete evidence to reward that commitment that I appreciate the most. There's a bunch of those, like with how on the nose they were about Shulk and Rex's kids without straight up telling you (because they also respect that we're capable of putting two and two together), the radio broadcast making that nod towards XCX and Gears/Saga, but not completely letting on as to which one it references (it's nice to think that they haven't totally forgotten XCX), and Matthew's family name dropped right at the very end (I super appreciate that, ngl). It's just good, man. Some parts could obviously have been fleshed out a little more, but with how stacked the trilogy has been until this point, I feel like it's fine to leave it as it is. Anything more would be like being spoon-fed the answers, and it'd kind of ruin the loose sort of vagueness that has become something of a trademark for the series. As much as I appreciate how direct FR is in some aspects (in particular, being some of the longer running mysteries), some things are just better left unspoken. I had fun, I'm sad that it's over, but I'm elated to have been able to follow it from the beginning as this chapter finally reaches it's end. Part of me hopes we won't have to wait too long for whatever they're planning next, but more than anything, I'd want Monolith to take a well-deserved rest. They've been cranking out bangers for this long, not only on their own projects, but on everyone else's as well, they've definitely earned it.
I just finished the DLC and marathon it so I didn’t get spoiled and I loved when the radio was in the background just steadily dropping truth bombs. I never played xeno saga so thanks for explaining the connection.
I love what they did with the collect and enemy pedias and having community and everything pay into one pool of points that upgrades stats, arts and skills. But yeah I’d like the extra stages of the affinity growth charts, accessory and gem slots being tied to levelling up rather than lying around
Thank you so much for playing Xenosaga on your channel to give people like me a similar experience I totally overlooked the Vector logo and first thought Dimitri would just be an easter egg to tickle Xeno Fans Balls but also thought about KOSMOS in the end and all these discoveries afterwards lead to an interesting evening where me and a friend of mine would theorize the crap out of this. I hope we will get the Xenosaga Trilogy in new form on the Switch to share the amazement it sparked in me with others who never had the chance to experience that. Now one thing not to underestimate is that Xenoblade 1-3 are still taking place in Episode 1-3 of Perfect Works if they're parallel to these games. Which means X could still come at the end somehow. We should Not forget there are Xenosaga ships in one of the final cutscenes of the Main Story and lore wise Samaarians created Ganglion. My theory is they used Technology similar to the Lifehold to do that, it is canon that artificial bio life is creatable so who knows. At this point I would even believe X standing for 10. Though I'll be happy even if it boils down as its own thing and gets at least something one day. But Saga Fans waited even longer so feed them first
as a Xeno dweeb who's been not-so-low-key *obsessed* after their first playthrough of the first saga... the yelling. the flailing. the FERAL MONKEY SHRIEKING AND DESK-SLAPPING. about that logo and name drop and little blue sparkle. Really, really hoping we get a dovetail double dip and see these universes' lores merged somehow, but even if we don't? The kind of long-plan, ultrarich, emotionally nuanced and *healthy* (and psychically damaging at times, let's be real) story-weaving that went into the Klaus/Blade arc is so, so, so, incredibly rewarding even on repeat playthroughs. I just. After the narrative tour-de-force of XC3, imagining just how much more engrossing and obsession-inducing a redux of or return to XS could be is frankly ridiculous. Imagining the battle mechanics, the environments, the soundtrack, the story parallels and synergies... (monkey shrieking intensifies)!! so yeah. XC3, back with some hot new DLC (and a common variety Nopon) to a) rekindle an old hyperfixation, b) break my heart *again* after XC3 already did it, and then c) yeet said heart into fricken hyperspace with LORE IMPLICATIONS
As someone who hasn’t played Saga or Gears (I played a bit Saga 1 when it came out but have like zero story memories) and hasn’t played X I still could tell the radio was super important as it was happening and felt it at least had to have some connection to X if not more so for me it was more exciting knowing that some crazy shit must’ve been happening that o didn’t know but could eventually go online to find out!
I really hope they remake Xenosaga and Xenogears, it will be my first time playing them and I want to get hype by that radio as well and the post credit scene
Who knows if remakes/remasters will ever happen at all though. I seriously suggest playing the original titles if you're interested at all, these are some of the best games ever made in my eyes and emulating them is an extremely simple process.
i think the sweet spot for the kits is enough for everyone to have the first unlock of each thing at least around the main path that isnt to hard to find, that gives enough flexability with power, but to truly get the good stuff you need to hunt. i havnt gone through xenosaga yet my self, but i knew that radio had faaaar to much significants and was paying attention to it far to much for what was actually happening. i knew i was missing context, but theres something, and oh boy its a hell of a ride thats planned here
I've played 1, Future Connected, 2, Torna, 3 and Future Redeemed. I guess I just have to come to terms with the fact that I don't understand some of the important lore parts. I'm glad to see so many people are super hyped about the lore implication, but it would've been cool to also understand them myself.
When I first entered Yesterdale and heard that Colony 9 music from the original Xenoblade I was filled with a rush of nostalgia. This DLC made me so damn happy.
Great video, I'm super excited for what this series has to offer. The Vector logo literally made me jump out of my seat in surprise, and I still just cannot fathom it. Do you plan on speedrunning the DLC when you can? If so, do you think it's a better speedrun game than Torna? Would love to hear your thoughts.
Damn personally i was freaking out by project Exodus mention and the blue shooting star at the end that i thought might be the white whale crashing on mira, but after listening to you YOU BROKE MY DREAMS (lol no jk). I didn't play Saga but i watched the cutscene compilation so about 24h cinematic to get the lore, and i couldn't remember anything lol but what you said makes sense. I think there is still a possibility that somehow earth post and pre Aionios aren't the same, which would explain why in X there is no trace of the big orbital circle, like maybe SAGA is pre and during xenoblade arc and X takes place after the dimensions fused back together, and at this moment the place where the alien attack is either not the same earth, just a look alike with human life (and a coveniently named place "Los angeles" and USA lol) and Mira would be the place where xenoblade 1 & 2 fused back (coping on that cause it would give "explanation possibilities" of a shiton of weird stuff about mira), or is the same place and all the alien in X not appearing in SAGA is a coïncidence. I know a good part of what i said can be easily disproven by game lore but... PLEASE LET ME BELIEVE IN XENO X PORTAGE BRING IN SAGA TOO IF YOU WANT I DONT CARE (Hate the protag tho)
The absolute insanity of Takahashi canonizing 4 universes across 3 game seires owned by 3 sperate companies all with a freaking radio in one of the fianl cutscenes is both ridiculous yet perfectly on brand
It’s not really that insane. Dude has a track record of overcomplicating simple things and making it way too confusing. Kind of what the studio does honestly.
X IS ONE OF THOSE 4 UNIVERSES RIGHT, BOAH?
@@mrbubbles6468 he is the mentor to the developer of the heart of darkness so of course he has to have a similar style
I had to replay that while scene again as I was to focused in the radio. All my X theories were coming together so well.
Well, Gears did not enter that canon, so you probably mean tbe 3 Sagas and XCX, right?
Of course there is the argument that Saga is Gears canon but that's another story and not really officialized.
No matter what the series holds, one thing is certain...
Luxin will be there with 2 hour long videos on one trailer.
And i'll be waiting for them
@Andy Witmyer I think you are overthinking.
It's okay to disagree, his videos are cool regardless.
I didn't like 3's ending that much but it was nice hearing a different opinion
@Andy Witmyer you'd be surprised at how many people don't understand most things in Xeno games.
@AndyWitmyer Eh, at the time he made that XC3 ending video there were a surprising amount of people who didn't really understand what was happening or overlooked vital details.
@AndyWitmyer I really don’t agree with him being obnoxious, I think all the things he tried to explain about the ending were what Takahashi intended for us to take away from the ending. Those of us who would really dig into the meaning of it, that is. It might be disappointing at first and you may not realize at first, but it’s pretty clear at the end of base game that the worlds do eventually merge back together correctly in the way Origin was intended. They just didn’t wanna straight up show that for some reason. Which, that part I understand being disappointed about. The whole thing of just not showing what’s being heavily implied anyway
About the Pneuma core thing: it's what causes the Ouroborous power. What's the biggest strength of Ouroborous? The ability to use any Blade. And what ability did Rex gain when he awakened Pneuma? The ability to use any Blade.
Daaaamn you cracked it fr
ohhhh that makes a lot of sense.
Not only that, but what better blade is there that knows how to handle multiple personalities and shared memories?
Master Driver = Ouroboros? Rex was the legit FIRST Ouroboros.
@@themonkeyman2910 that's why he's the king.
My incredibly hot take is that the Xeno games are good
I agree with this radical and dangerous idea
HOW DARE YOU
Beat him
How can you say something so controversial, yet so brave?!
kill him, boys /j
I ADORED seeing all the titans that you could just barely make out in the base game because they were mostly annihilated. ESPECIALLY Gormott. I KNEW that was its head we were fighting in at the opening of the base game.
Wait what? The battlefield was its head? I got none of that lol.. I did enjoy seeing Mor Ardain from a distance but I wish it had been closer at some point.. Apart from what we already knew to be Uraya but this time visible from its open mouth there wasnt that much new titan stuff was there? I need to go back and check 😂
@@mikev8746 I saw Gormott's head connected to Captocorn Peak (you can see it from Prison Island), revealing that Captocorn Peak was its antlers.
@@ltb1345 Ohhhh right that. Yeah I saw its hollowed out head there. Just wasn't sure which region OP referred to. Wasn't it always kind of shown that Gormott was the snow region in base? At least that's what I always figured. Man I just wish they had us get a bit closer to Mor Ardain.. Though it was cool to see him from Colony 9. I liked that panoramic shot from the town.
It's crazy that I bought XC2 when it came out in 2017 on a whim, and now the Xeno series is my favorite series by FAR. I am so excited for the potential the series has in the future. Thank you Monolith for such great games
Wow. Glad I’m not alone in that exact experience. I had been getting into anime a bit beforehand, then got a Switch for BotW, but wanted to get another big game with greater battery life when BotW drained the OG model in 3 hours of handheld but then Xenoblade had up to 5 hours I heard and it at least looked interesting enough and had the first game on my bucket list.
Now it’s my favorite game series ever. Oops.
The exact same happened to me except it was with Xenoblade Chronicles X and had nothing else to play on the Wii U at the time
same kinda, i first got xenoblade 2 because of etika and i was like this game seems kind of cool, but then i never ended up finishing it back then. then once xenoblade 3 was announced, i just went on a full xenoblade marathon playing the definitive edition and 2 and god now i love the series (still gotta play X eventually tho, and now xenosaga lmao)
Lol that's me as well. Saw XC2 in the Switch launch trailer and thought it looked like a cool world and decided to try it not knowing what I was getting into. Man what a ride.
By far one of my favorite franchises now.
He completely missed how Takahashi himself confirmed they would be giving one part of the trinity processer to each nia, mio, and na'el to give us the xenosaga reboot where kos-mos is now a robot gormotti. I can't believe this.
Gotta get a car girl in there somehow
Pairing Mio with Malos is so cursed, but also I would pay to see that
The triumvirate of catgirls?!
It's pretty nice seeing Enel talking about lore :)
Reading the statues in City after beating Future Redeemed was interesting, as I now knew the characters and such, and the random stuff about living for 80 years and mentors made sense now.
Also kind of recontextualizes the ending too, as that was the last time anyone from Colony 9 saw or heard of Matty again, except Riku as he lived long enough to recognize his descendants returning
I love Future Redeemed and all the callbacks contained in it. The ending admittedly brought me to tears during the credits (clip show of all the past episodes/games during the credits always gets me emotional lol) While I agree I don't feel like any of the new characters in FR due to not spending a lot of time with them, they were all enjoyable and Matthew was a fun main protagonist. I think he or A were definitely my favorite additions to the cast. As someone who hasn't played any of the Xenosaga games and have next to no idea what they're about, I'm looking forward to taking a crash course on the lore to keep up with all the theories lol
If they do release Xenosaga Collection HD on Switch I would be very happy. I can't get enough of xeno games!
can I say how much better Alpha is as a final boss than Z? This bizarre avant-garde unworldly elegant masked mech thing that oozes power and alien grace, versus a big face that screams. Such an upgrade.
Z and Moebius sucked hard
The big screaming face was fitting or what Z represents tho.
@@Dharengo but was it good for a boss fight?
@@adamroquemore6410 For what he represents, yes.
I did not expect to fight Andross in a Xenoblade game.
Wish they made the game longer. The exp was so amazing, lore wise exploration, music and battle wise. This literally made my top xeno game tied with xc3. This also made the lore of the main game deeper than I originally thought about it.
I kind of have the opposite opinion on the gameplay progression. I played more casually with a 20+ hr playtime over multiple sessions to make it to the credits, so I never minded some of those kits being a little out the way. Although, I do agree it is annoying that everything was locked behind those kits.
Except for Nikol, I ended with everyone’s affinity chart opened and completed and most other slots unlocked.
I’ve essentially scoured the entire map without a guide and have 100% in everything but Enemypedia, but I still ended up missing an Accessory Kit which feels really bad. I feel like they should have placed them within the big story portions because it felt like your group was half-baked for like 90% of the game unless you went out of your way to be an absolute completionist
I’m just super excited for the next game. Xenoblade 1 was my all time favorite game until 3. I can’t wait to see what they do now that the Klaus saga is over. The curiosity of one man really gave us the best video game series ever.
I'm taking the Project Exodus reference to be a simple declaration that "Xenoblade X isn't going to be left behind".
It's extremely difficult for it to be directly related, but that doesn't mean we can't get the rest of that universe's ideas. Heck, Elma could even still show up as a character, just with a new backstory more friendly to Blade and Saga.
I mean, take it as when Klaus was doing his experiment the aliens showed up to continue that line and everyone needed to leave asap for some reason which rolled into X. Honestly I can see it that with in that 2 hour window in which Klaus was being Klaus lots of other stuff happened to create a branching effect.
My pet theory is that X Earth is an alternate Earth from the one seen in Xenoblade 1-3 but Mira is the world Alpha planned to take the city humans too.
@@the_maker1841 I haven't played Xenosaga so am not 100% sure about this, but isn't one of the like most important characteristics of Xenosaga's universe the fact that humans are all alone in the universe/no other intelligent life was found despite interstellar travel? That seems like a major conflict, but there's likely going to be a degree of synthesis of different aspects of each canon to make them fit. Like Xenoblade X &/or Xenosaga may not literally be made canon in their entirety but large portions of the ideas and story bits could be introduced to Xenoblade.
@@torrent5018 it is a good point of the xenosaga of the idea they are alone. I more follow the branch idea that Ina time frame or something caused different events. I have mostly spit ball. Yet I think X is either set as a simulation event that is being used when exodus is being planned out to see how well space colonization could go and of we could overcome another species (which ends up not caring much in the xenosaga line as they are alone). The earth blowing up and everything could be used to keep those in the simulation grounded in said simulated world. Yet they actually get to their given goal and that is where we find nothing is there. No lifehold, no computer to make real bodies. Just Elma's. The other side is that the event the Klaus triggered effected alot more than what we see and the aliens and such are a product to then go after earth and then the such of X happens.
Much like how it was pointed out in this video, X has lots of contradictory lore but this also can point that X's world could very much be a product of something completely different than Xenosaga or Xenoblade 1,2, and 3.
Then again, it could be the devs making a reboot to X as they now have a more solid direction and watch as all of the X cult fans die inside as our theories get thrown out.
Honestly, I've always thought they shared a universe- the war that resulted in Earth's destruction in X always felt weird to me, and after seeing in XC2 how the Artifices were fighting up in space, I can totally see a way to either 1. Retcon the nature of the battle or 2. Make those artifices effectively be Skells. It's not that much of a reach to make it work- a remake of XCX could easily patch up the holes.
As someone who has been on X copium for years, I understand there is little chance at a solid connection, but i will hold faith that Takahashi isn't just whipping out names that connect to X as just an easter egg in the same breath that he's connecting the blade games to saga, and that we may get something real sooner or later (aka, i'm upping the copium dosage)
I see it as both an easter egg and not. They cannot be talking about the same project here. It is not possible. The universe is just in an entirely different state. But that doesn't mean there is no connection whatsoever.
X remaster and sequel are an inevitability. The issue here is that it can not be the set in the same galaxy as the Klaus Trilogy.
They will be probably connect it with the numbered title someday but not with the information FR is teasing, that’s moreso suggesting Saga will be play some sort of central role in the next saga of Xenoblade.
@@ZephyrK_ it absolutely can be in the same as the Klaus triolgy. We don’t really know anything about the surrounding universe. And we don’t know what the conflict that kicked everything off was
You can actually fit X if no need for retcons, only needing that they stick strong to the concept of eternal reocorrence. And it goes like this: On the merged "New Earth" (lets call it like that) from years after 3 ending, whose people (from 1 and 2) were already very tech advanced, go on to advance even more, and eventually depart to conquer galaxies, they are what eventually becomes the Samaarian federation (at the down of time, they came in from another plane, as per X, just like happened when the XC2 universe came in from another plane, to merge). They expand so much that at some distant future, the "New Earth" ends up forgotten/lost. They continue to evolve and change. Eventually at some point in the distant future, they decided to terraform yet a new Earth, or even, a new solar system (they have so much tech that they can make even this at this point), let´s call it Earth 2, and they make sure to guide evolution there to go as they see fit for their purposes, and then, bioengineer what is supposed to serve as their failsafe (Humans from Xenoblade X), and we know from X that the Samaarians have this level of bioengineering tech, from Xenoblade X quests. Or alternatively, they get to the point of technology of dimension travel (not far fetched, given what XC1/2 people tech did with Origin, and how much tech those people would have at this point I am describing, and the fact many universes is canon to blade), and apply all this to that dimension primitive Earth. More years passes by, Earth 2 evolved to the point where we see in the beggining of Xenoblade X. Earth 2, just like old "New Earth", also has get to a point of having a Coalition government (eternal reocorrence, so ok for the similarity actually), but Earth 2 does not have the Conduit nor the towers . Elma, who maybe could be a possibly modern Samaarian (maybe one of the few left, as the rest mixed and shaped to other races, as they expanded to become a mega galatic empire), that does not agree with the current path and ethics of modern Samaar federation, goes to Earth 2 and warns X humans of the imminent treat. White whale leaves Earth 2, and , "by coincidence" (there are quests that imply that may have actually be driven by some force), lands in none other then old "New Earth"/Lost Earth, there is, "New Earth" millions of year after 3 ending. Or in the other alternative I mentioned, this force that guided then to Earth 2 is what made them swap dimension (still believable given some of the phenomena surrounding Mira, like the Ganglion and the ma-non being led to there in a flash of light). Nopons were native of "New Earth" and unlike old Humans/now Samaarians, some remains there, which makes sense in this scenario. And the reason why humans did not die after the memory storage of the lifehold got wrecked, is because something in "New Earth" also has the capacity to store data and "souls", Origin, who was in "New Earth" since the merge between 1 and 2 eons in the past by now, (something about this planet). Meaning, that last shot in Future redeemed is indeed the white whale crashlanding, and those humans from X name the old "New Earth", Mira (the sequence gives no indication of how much time passed, could be on a cosmic scale as far as we know). Mira geology does lend it itself to this scenario, as, how merged XC1/2 worlds would look like after millenia has passed. As a extra, from the distance from "New Earth" of that shot in future redeemed, a human sized cyborg should not be possible to see, but a ship the size of the white whale could. So X happens millenia after the ending of 3, a time scale that has precedent in the franchise. And the eternal reocorrence do makes history in these two Earths flowing similar, credible, within what the franchise themes has worked on. Here is more believable than the retcons about Dimitri that and the others needed for Saga, for instance. This is just one example of possibly others where Monolith Soft, the actual creators of the franchise, could fit X without the need of retcons or minimal retcons, just the need to stick a bit strongly on eternal reocorrence.
If I had a nickel for every time the third entry in a Xeno franchise concluded with the credits song coming back for a final, solemn verse as we see something blue flying towards a planet, thus ending the game on a hopeful note with a semi-ambiguous hint of things to come...
Matthew is one of my most like characters for the length of the story. Chad-asorus-rex is awesome but in this story Mathew's persinality explains so much of how the city and the hope was carried on.
The kids were awesome, it felt they were more devices to show rex's and shulk's character growth into fathers. Many small scenes at the camps or in the background just made the dad vibes awesome. I do feel they got shafted on character growth but what can you do in 10 hours worth of main story.
Shulk and Rex are giga dads and love that at the end A reminds them they can't go to far, yet they want to so bad.
The story was a great closure for the main game and a good epilog for the 1st and 2nd games. Specially that radio mind blowing info dump.
The theories of Xeno games with mainly X in my mind, are going to get crazy. I think it strengthened my theory of how Klaus's experiment and actions were happening around the same time that X's alien invasion and a branch was created at that time frame. Klaus did his thing and made the Xenoblade 1, 2, and 3 arcs. At the same time i believe earth was in danger of some stuff from either ailen invasion to world collapsing actions. Either way it seems that Xenogears and X also had their kick off from there as well. I need to go back and play/look at Xc2 and Xc1 to verify if the station Klaus and Co were on was being attacked by something. Anyway, just rambling at this point but it looks good for the theoriests.
Game play - Affinity system hit take, I like it. Yet i am not a speed runner or anything. I get distracted easily and curious about stuff. So i am glad i get more rewarded for my playstyle in this game. I didn't like Tora's implementation but Future redeemed's way of going about it was perfect for me.
Music: the base combat OST is probably my favorite in the fanchise. It has such a cool vibe. My friend and I noticed how the chain attack music had a blend of Xc1 and Xc2 chain attack music which was awesome.
I think noah throwing the sword is more symbolic. I don't think it really means anything of throwing the 2 wifes away. More of moving forward. But building on i did like how it showed the planets coming together and becoming one. Shows that we did thebright thing as at some point the worlds merge together.
Overall i loved this and Xc3. I am looking forward to what is instore for us in the future. I now need to replay X to refresh my mind to better write a dissertation on everything that radio dropped.
What can you do in 10 houes of story?
A lot. Good films have way less time.
And that’s before you remember that FR has side content
I doubt we'll ever see it but I do love the mental image of KOSMOS falling to Earth, getting herself up and being very confused by the presence of Nopon and catpeople
I feel like this is gonna be a situation where the blue light ends up being something completely different from Kosmos or the White Whale/Elma and all us Saga and X fans will feel kinda silly afterwards but that might just be me being pessimistic. I seriously hope it's Kosmos though. That was my first thought when I saw it and it actually works in the lore of both series.
Everyone overlooks the Xenogears connection possibility.
@@LainK1978 Tbh, is Xenogears even still on the radar? It feels like a lot of important things happened since that make the lore very awkward. The main thing being that Xenogears being canon would imply that the explanation for its Zohar would also logically apply to the Saga-Zohar and the Conduit, because they make it clear that the diffrent counterparts of the object share similar powers and meanings. And at that point, it gets very dicey.
All the implications and connections aside, I love how FR elevated the whole main game. Many gripes I had with XBC3 are now gone.
Z got a few new aspects to him that make him more tangible, N got much more to his motivation and the whole 1st City thing makes sense.
And even Noah being there although N exists makes now sense as well.
The whole radio thing and that stuff is just the cherry on top.
FR gave me everything I wanted.
It’s also worth mentioning that KOS-MOS’ Episode 3 Database Entry says: “A blue light penetrates her battered and faded figure. Perhaps that light will be the cause of a new awakening.” 🧐
I'd really love to see a Xenosaga reboot as someone that's never played it. With how Monolithsoft creates their games, I'm sure it'd be FANTASTIC
Also, my headcanon is that Matthew left the city and encountered an iteration of Noah on his journey. He then gave the gauntlets to Noah and that's why his blade looks the way it does. I'm pretty sure it looked like that even before Riku gave him Lucky 7. Maybe Pneuma just latched onto Noah's soul and that's why he'd continue to have it
I agree that Shulk in future redeemed was a bit lackluster gameplay-wise, but when you unlock him and Rex in the base game, they change his skills and one of his new ones is gentleman's valor, when is a really easy party wide awakening, and he has good chain attack bonuses as well, so while Rex is the Masterful King in Future Redeemed, Shulk is Grand in the base game
You can get them in the base game now?
Shulk was basically just my party-wide Armor Veil buff the whole time. It's good, but that's about the only thing he does.
@ObviousBaitAccount yeah, beat Future Redemed to unlock a challenge battle in the base game, and that unlocks shulk and rex as heroes in the base game.
Unfortunately, you can't unlock their classes like you can with the rest of the heroes, but they are solid picks for party comps. Rex, especially for no-tank setups that abuse protecter's pride
A question I still have after all this is about Mythra's kid. I really don't remember there being any reference at all to her child and I'm genuinely curious. Given how they showed us Mio (Nia's), Glimmer (Pyra's), Nikol (Shulk/Fiora's), Panacea (Reyn/Sharla's) and Linka (Zeka/Pandoria's), it feels weird that one gets left out.
Honestly, my personal theory is that said child is male, and greatly resembles the younger version of Rex seen back in XC2, only with blond hair (kinda like a counterpart to Nikol, who greatly resembles the younger version of Shulk seen back in XC1, but with Fiora’s hair and eye color)
…and that this character would be a party member in the theoretical next game
Why is it such a stretch that this individual was never and is never going to be relevant?
@@Dharengo Because they're the only one left out? Also, Future Redeemed seemed like a finale of sorts for the Xenoblade 1/2/3 arc, so it would give a bit of closure. Plus there's the fact that we've met the children of the other protagonists with ship tease, but not Mythra's.
@@cybertramon0012 Wdym only ones left out? What about Morag's children? Or do you just randomly assume she doesn't have any? Same goes for Reyn, Zeke, Tora, Juju, Mikail, the list continues. Your use of the word 'closure' implies some sort of unresolved issue or plot thread. But I have no idea what that could be.
My theory is that they'll show up as the protagonist for the inevitable warriors spinoff this series will get.
I'm guessing 2 things. Either is Takahashi reimagining Saga's lore/events into Blade's or there's some strong story and timelines lore that we didn't know just yet between Blades, Saga, X. If it that was our original KOSMOS in FR post ending, does that mean that similar events between Saga and Blades are occurring at the same time, but in different timeline and universes? Also, they could start Saga 4 and Blade 4 together, by merging the plot that Takahashi was originally envisioned for Episode 4 into the new plot and new world for Xenoblade 4. This is just my mind creating something in between these
I actually liked how some power up’s were unlocked through exploration because it gave a pretty good incentive to explore the areas. I never really liked exploring until postgame in xenoblade because I didn’t really feel that compelled. It probably wouldn’t work in a full xenoblade game anyway, but for expansion story it’s not that bad of an idea.
Yeah the exploration for progression was something I really liked here, and I think it only really could work in something like Future Redeemed where it, like Torna before it, benefits from the much smaller map allowing for more tightly-designed and interesting areas to explore, and the X-reader was another crucial piece of that imo.
This !!
I still feel like Xenoblade X has to fit into this somehow. The radio is obviously what Takahashi meant about how Future Redeemed will hint at the future of the series, and it would be really weird for the radio's references to one game/series be direct connections while the references to the other game/series be just Easter eggs. It's something we can't really just pick and choose. My guess is Xenosaga, the main Xenoblade series, and Xenoblade X are all connected to each other in _some_ manner, but not within a shared, linear timeline. Maybe it's parallel universes with similar events up to when humanity finds the Zohar but then it splits from there. Maybe it's related to the Eternal Recurrence. Maybe it's in a manner we don't know yet. I'm not sure. But I'm looking forward to seeing what will come in the future, and I'm also hopeful we'll finally get something new Xenosaga-related, be it a remaster, remake, or a new game.
You can actually fit X if no need for retcons, only needing that they stick strong to the concept of eternal reocorrence. And it goes like this: On the merged "New Earth" (lets call it like that) from years after 3 ending, whose people (from 1 and 2) were already very tech advanced, go on to advance even more, and eventually depart to conquer galaxies, they are what eventually becomes the Samaarian federation (at the down of time, they came in from another plane, as per X, just like happened when the XC2 universe came in from another plane, to merge). They expand so much that at some distant future, the "New Earth" ends up forgotten/lost. They continue to evolve and change. Eventually at some point in the distant future, they decided to terraform yet a new Earth, or even, a new solar system (they have so much tech that they can make even this at this point), let´s call it Earth 2, and they make sure to guide evolution there to go as they see fit for their purposes, and then, bioengineer what is supposed to serve as their failsafe (Humans from Xenoblade X), and we know from X that the Samaarians have this level of bioengineering tech, from Xenoblade X quests. Or alternatively, they get to the point of technology of dimension travel (not far fetched, given what XC1/2 people tech did with Origin, and how much tech those people would have at this point I am describing, and the fact many universes is canon to blade), and apply all this to that dimension primitive Earth. More years passes by, Earth 2 evolved to the point where we see in the beggining of Xenoblade X. Earth 2, just like old "New Earth", also has get to a point of having a Coalition government (eternal reocorrence, so ok for the similarity actually), but Earth 2 does not have the Conduit nor the towers . Elma, who maybe could be a possibly modern Samaarian (maybe one of the few left, as the rest mixed and shaped to other races, as they expanded to become a mega galatic empire), that does not agree with the current path and ethics of modern Samaar federation, goes to Earth 2 and warns X humans of the imminent treat. White whale leaves Earth 2, and , "by coincidence" (there are quests that imply that may have actually be driven by some force), lands in none other then old "New Earth"/Lost Earth, there is, "New Earth" millions of year after 3 ending. Or in the other alternative I mentioned, this force that guided then to Earth 2 is what made them swap dimension (still believable given some of the phenomena surrounding Mira, like the Ganglion and the ma-non being led to there in a flash of light). Nopons were native of "New Earth" and unlike old Humans/now Samaarians, some remains there, which makes sense in this scenario. And the reason why humans did not die after the memory storage of the lifehold got wrecked, is because something in "New Earth" also has the capacity to store data and "souls", Origin, who was in "New Earth" since the merge between 1 and 2 eons in the past by now, (something about this planet). Meaning, that last shot in Future redeemed is indeed the white whale crashlanding, and those humans from X name the old "New Earth", Mira (the sequence gives no indication of how much time passed, could be on a cosmic scale as far as we know). Mira geology does lend it itself to this scenario, as, how merged XC1/2 worlds would look like after millenia has passed. As a extra, from the distance from "New Earth" of that shot in future redeemed, a human sized cyborg should not be possible to see, but a ship the size of the white whale could. So X happens millenia after the ending of 3, a time scale that has precedent in the franchise. And the eternal reocorrence do makes history in these two Earths flowing similar, credible, within what the franchise themes has worked on. Here is more believable than the retcons about Dimitri that and the others needed for Saga, for instance. This is just one example of possibly others where Monolith Soft, the actual creators of the franchise, could fit X without the need of retcons or minimal retcons, just the need to stick a bit strongly on eternal reocorrence.
@@joebilly3719I think it's easier just to have the people from Xenoblade X having left Earth immediately before Klaus's experiment. War had been ongoing on the planet at the time, effects from Klaus's experiment had impacts on the planet before the wiping out everyone. Or even not everyone was, but they quickly abandoned the planet before it was overran by the alien looking creatures seen in the Land of Morytha. Then things that they came across later were associated with those incidents.
@@LainK1978 problem with this one is that it requires some retcons. While the scenario I described is complicated, at least it requires not retcons.
After finishing the DLC yesterday, I've been fiending for videos like these
After seeing rex in future redeemed, replays of xenoblade 2 will never feel the same again
Hey Enel, not sure if you were already planning on this, but I feel like it would be useful to many people if in a section of a future video, like the one about good accessories locations video if you would put the locations of the accessory/ gem/ art unlock locations as they are easy to miss and can take hours to find. Sorry if this was off topic and long but I just wanted to put this out, thank your for your time.
It was weird to me how Moebius and flame clocks, which were an imposing force in the original game, meant so little this time. Except N, since it's N. They had 3 people who could cut flame clocks this time, which is just... wild
Probably because of the "truce" between Z and Rex/Shulk/the city folks until the "Alpha matter" is solved.
Four people. Remember that A also has a monado. When your party is stacked with what is essentially the enemies' kryptonite, you know they're going to be a cake walk.
I mean you fight 2 Mobeuis at level 6. When did we fight the first official Mobius in K? His boss fight being lvl 17. 2 rather easy Mobieus at a combined level of 12 vs 17, which combined with the Ethel being 16. Yeah they were push overs
Connecting Blade, X, Saga and Gears in the end is a very bold move and while my fan heart was in awe I was also worried which direction this might lead to in the future. Time to replay Gears and Saga 2 and 3 (just replayed 1 recently) to prepare for the future :) also fingers crossed for an X port on Switch :)
matthew saying 'ow my face' in battle endeared him to me immediately
I laughed every time he said "I'm feeling full of beans"
It's actually 'Get outta my face', but it really does sound like that 🤣
Despite not playing saga or knowing anything about it despite kos-mos, I still got pretty hyped at the radio. I recognized project exodus, and could tell that they were referencing other games with all these name and organizations drops. So I couldn’t wait for someone to explain, like this video.
Honestly hope that given the lore present in the FR's radio, that a potential Xenosaga trilogy remaster/remake/port could come over to modern consoles.
Having the games on modern consoles would be cool enough as is, but a remake could help out each game in the trilology imo with some QOL improvements. XS1 could use some speedups in battle animations, make enemy boost turns more fair/clearer rules, and streamline menus. XS2 ideally could tweek damage numbers/scaling, also speed up combat animations, and rework the games's artstyle and character designs to be less weird. XS3 needs the least changes, but a hard mode that pushes the games combat to its limit would be nice, given how utterly broken so many things in the game are.
Kinda bummed out that I didn't get to lose my shit with the radio scene like I did in the "The Birth of a Universe" cutscene in XC2.
I hope the Xenosaga series gets remakes for added context or I'll have to emulate it otherwise since there's no official way to obtain it today
There's always ebay, and PS2 systems are still around. Admittedly, price of entry will be higher than most can do in this economy
Really glad I played Saga a year and a half or so ago. I did the same as you and had to press the Home button when Yuriev's name was dropped
I always see most people like Rex more because most modern Xenoblade players started with 2. I do like Shulk more than Rex mostly due to his personality and his story. Shulk is one of the main characters that is out for blood in the beginning of the game and is able to show a darker side until he develops as a character. Also Shulk has best VA no questions asked out if the main characters.
This DLC confirmed for me that the name “lucky seven” is a meta reference to the seven main xeno series games. Crazy that they might all come together in the future. We’ll have to wait and see!
It means a lot for Xenoblade, yes; but oh my is this the most hype thing I've ever played.
I jumped out of my chair when I saw what looked like Fifth Jerusalem. I spiked my controller when I saw that Vector radio, then I squealed with glee at that Dimitri name-drop!!! And of course there was that blue light at the end of the credits...how about Project Exodus! Oh my, even the signal is reminiscent of X's intro.
I'm still going wild...anybody want to talk about Philadelphia-class motherships?
Great analysis Enel, the radio was kind of shocking when I first got to the ending. I wouldnt be surprised if Monolith was working on a Saga remaster or remake to retcon it into the main Xenoblade series. The stories broadly fit together, so it wouldn't be difficult to make changes to the story, where the original Saga is one timeline of events, and another timeline leads to Xenoblade or something. My biggest worry about this radio was the Xenoblade X implications. Xenoblade X''s story and overall feel are very different from the main series, and I think adding things like the Ganglion or aliens into the main series in the way that X does it would sort of taint the original isolated story of Klaus and the Conduit. Overall I'm excited to see where the series goes, but I cant help but worry.
I wouldn't worry too much. Monolith always knows how to surprise us. My expectations are extremely high and they always surpass them.
There isn't a saga that makes me nearly as happy as xenoblade
The original isolated story with Klaus was already tainted when they decided to connect it with XC2.
As for X feeling different. It really doesn’t. And XC2 is a thing.
@@mrbubbles6468 dude that was the best thing. I was extremely happy when I saw 2's ending.
Haven't seen many games do that.
The whole Klaus saga is a masterpiece.
The main argument for an X connection is that Mira being Origin would very neatly wrap up the cliffhanger X ended on. Also I think the Earth wasn't actually destroyed but was sucked into a pocket dimension where 2 took place. 1 and 2's universes appear to be of similar size in 3 when colliding, so it would make sense for both to be pocket dimensions.
2 wasn’t sucked into a pocket dimension. Or took place in one. 2 literally took place in the remains the original dimension
1 is the pocket dimension. Alrest is literally Earth.
From what we saw at the end of FR Earth was no longer in the solar system, so probably Earth was also transported to a pocket dimension
Klaus really screwed reality over, but from what i understood was that the reality was split but they are somehow running parralel to each other , so they technically are both earth just the time lines are different, as one is where Klaus succeded and the other is where crap hit the fan,infact you could say its like pyra and mithra both split from pneuma, both are her and not her, and for them to exist together pneuma had to go, so after three you could say earth is not the same earth anymore
Shulk:"Cool, we saved the world. Now nothing bad can happen again."
Alrest:"Kek"
I beat this game on the second night it came out (due to sadly being super tired from travelling across the UK that day, although I still managed to do half of the DLC's story before conking out) and I was freaking out about 'the radio' too. All of my friends have yet to beat FR so I still have had no one to truly talk about all the lore implications behind it, but I completely agree with your spoiler section on it.
The dlc already won me over by mentioning my favourite song from the XC2 OST (Tomorrow with you)
If Mira and Origin are connected, it could very handily explain away the issues that crop up with the aliens. Entirely possible that the aliens are some weird construct created by a cast-out dying and/or corrupted Origin. After all, we know it's possible for it to alter memories.
After finishing Future Redeemed I was glad I recently watched your LP for Xenosaga. Because seeing the name Dmitri Yuriev shocked the hell out of me
Honestly, Dimitri's Existence certainly explains why Klaus went against against orders and triggered the Conduit instead of Aion
I think FR really encapsulates the series and gives us everything we need to be satisfied, but also have hope for the future of the series.
I would love the next Monolith game taking place on this world and giving context to how it developed after the merge. Because this could give more context to Noah disappearing or at least maybe mention it vaguely 1000s of years after the fact. I do like thinking about the gang from both 1 & 2 developing the world together without having to worry about moebius or annihilation events.
The way Rex, Shulk, & "Alvis" walked out was awesome. The fact that they were there for a specific purpose makes sense why certain characters didn't show up but were mentioned.
I do like how the song is like a heartfelt goodbye to Blade, but I really like the fact that the world's did come back together as one thanks to Origin. Which speaking of, is the only way for X to make sense because of the lifehold reference.
Overall though, the organization in this game was so pleasing to 100%. I can tell how frustrating it will be to speedrun though. And the community was so much better than in Torna. Which makes me not want to forget how Riki gave us the greatest Nopon ever in Riku who just knew the assignment just like Rex and Shulk did.
Anyway, I've never played Saga, but I kinda want to now 😂 especially with your explanation here. Looking forward to Luxin's deep dive.
Now all I need to know is why are we getting Noah and Mio amiibos and what they will do if we're moving on 🤔
This dlc should've been called 'Xenoblade Chronicles 3: All Your Ships Are Now Canon'
0/10 false advertising no Mòrag/Brighid, Lanz/Taion, Eunie/Ashera, Mwamba/Hackt, Ethel/Bolearis/Cammuravi OT3 or Melia/literally anybody confirmation 😪
Enel feels like a reseacher who made a huge scientific discovery but can't tell anyone because it requires too much maths knowledge to understand it
Lore-Dump Radio is my favourite radio station.
I don't know if you saw it, but there was also an interesting scene with Lucky Seven, where Riku told us what exactly it was, as well as telling us his Masterpon and implying who his father is
8:00 hmm once you realize Matthew is Na'el's brother, it's similar to the Euden and Zethia dynamic in Dragalia Lost
Aww yeah, this is what ive been waiting for! Thanks for the content Enel!
I've been super excited for a week and I have no one to talk to about it because I'm the only big Xeno fan in my friend group. I feel like I'm gonna explode having no one in my life who cares but what am I gonna do?
Xenogears and Xenosaga are still incredibly fresh in my mind due to having just experienced them in the past couple months so yeah, I absolutely lost it at the radio scene and the post-credits scene. I was really hyped because of the X stuff too but now that some time has passed and I'm off the copium, it's probably just references sadly lol. Maybe one day X fans will get their day in the sun, they still got those cliffhangers after all. I think the Xenosaga stuff is still pretty hype though, I hope they at least bring the trilogy to Switch one day.
Good video, can't wait for Luxin's feature-length film :)
The way character progression was handled, being tied to side content, reminded me a lot of how Persona handles things, especially since I was playing Persona 5 Royal just before the release date was announced. You can ignore the side content if you really want too, but you’re making things noticeably harder on yourself if you do so. You theoretically can finish P5R without doing Confidants, but you miss out on a lot of perks and Persona Fusions are all around weaker. By the same token, you can just follow the story path in FR, but then your party is much weaker because you can’t fill out their Skill Trees.
I loved all of the callbacks, especially when kids were requesting Na’el to play Gaur Plain, The Tomorrow With You, and Bringer of Chaos! Ultimate on the piano
Takahashi really just said "you know what this game needs? A complete mindfuck. I feel like the fans need a good one." And we were all like "YES PLEASE"
Oh man... the feeling i had when i saw that fucking radio. I was loud. Too loud. Thinking back on it I could cry. But the double whammy with Dmitri yuriev. Smashed that fucking home button and just jumped with joy. I love this fucking franchise bro. Great video
Funny thing about the radio scene:
I wasn't paying attention to the radio at all, I was paying attention to the conversation between Na'el and Matthew, but I took a glance at the radio's subtitles RIGHT when Dmitri Yuriev was mentioned and I went "WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE HERE, WHAT!?!?" and had to rewatch the entire scene again but paying attention the the radio.
It was pretty crazy, admittedly.
I haven't played Xenosaga but my eyes were glued to the radio the whole time because I knew something important was being said here lmao. Glad you could explain how significant it actually was
That dlc actually blew my mind. I didn’t expect them to show the things they did. I don’t know what this means for the lore. But (not actually a spoiler but kinda is if you use context)
I wonder if X can somehow be connected seeing what they were willing to do.
Part of me wants the connection to Xenosaga to be kinda loose in the same way that Gears and Saga aren't direct sequels. They're alternate universes that share the same ideas. I don't see why Xenoblade can't just be using those terms as common world building elements. That said I would loooove a Xenosaga remaster.
I do still think that Xenoblade X could be connected. Honestly It's possible that X's universe is an alternate one created by the people of Xenoblade/Xenosaga. Because Xenoblade X has the Samaarians as progenitors, and the Samaarians are humans from another universe.
Wait, are they?
@@Dharengo yeah, I remember this fact from X too, although I can't remember exactly where it was mentioned. I think in one of Luxor's speeches?
My original thought for all these years was that the Samaarians from X were a group of people who were thrown into the X universe with Klaus' experiment, while the rest went to Bionis. But in light of Future Redeemed idk anymore, gonna need to theorize some more, haha
You can actually fit X if no need for retcons, only needing that they stick strong to the concept of eternal reocorrence. And it goes like this: On the merged "New Earth" (lets call it like that) from years after 3 ending, whose people (from 1 and 2) were already very tech advanced, go on to advance even more, and eventually depart to conquer galaxies, they are what eventually becomes the Samaarian federation (at the down of time, they came in from another plane, as per X, just like happened when the XC2 universe came in from another plane, to merge). They expand so much that at some distant future, the "New Earth" ends up forgotten/lost. They continue to evolve and change. Eventually at some point in the distant future, they decided to terraform yet a new Earth, or even, a new solar system (they have so much tech that they can make even this at this point), let´s call it Earth 2, and they make sure to guide evolution there to go as they see fit for their purposes, and then, bioengineer what is supposed to serve as their failsafe (Humans from Xenoblade X), and we know from X that the Samaarians have this level of bioengineering tech, from Xenoblade X quests. Or alternatively, they get to the point of technology of dimension travel (not far fetched, given what XC1/2 people tech did with Origin, and how much tech those people would have at this point I am describing, and the fact many universes is canon to blade), and apply all this to that dimension primitive Earth. More years passes by, Earth 2 evolved to the point where we see in the beggining of Xenoblade X. Earth 2, just like old "New Earth", also has get to a point of having a Coalition government (eternal reocorrence, so ok for the similarity actually), but Earth 2 does not have the Conduit nor the towers . Elma, who maybe could be a possibly modern Samaarian (maybe one of the few left, as the rest mixed and shaped to other races, as they expanded to become a mega galatic empire), that does not agree with the current path and ethics of modern Samaar federation, goes to Earth 2 and warns X humans of the imminent treat. White whale leaves Earth 2, and , "by coincidence" (there are quests that imply that may have actually be driven by some force), lands in none other then old "New Earth"/Lost Earth, there is, "New Earth" millions of year after 3 ending. Or in the other alternative I mentioned, this force that guided then to Earth 2 is what made them swap dimension (still believable given some of the phenomena surrounding Mira, like the Ganglion and the ma-non being led to there in a flash of light). Nopons were native of "New Earth" and unlike old Humans/now Samaarians, some remains there, which makes sense in this scenario. And the reason why humans did not die after the memory storage of the lifehold got wrecked, is because something in "New Earth" also has the capacity to store data and "souls", Origin, who was in "New Earth" since the merge between 1 and 2 eons in the past by now, (something about this planet). Meaning, that last shot in Future redeemed is indeed the white whale crashlanding, and those humans from X name the old "New Earth", Mira (the sequence gives no indication of how much time passed, could be on a cosmic scale as far as we know). Mira geology does lend it itself to this scenario, as, how merged XC1/2 worlds would look like after millenia has passed. As a extra, from the distance from "New Earth" of that shot in future redeemed, a human sized cyborg should not be possible to see, but a ship the size of the white whale could. So X happens millenia after the ending of 3, a time scale that has precedent in the franchise. And the eternal reocorrence do makes history in these two Earths flowing similar, credible, within what the franchise themes has worked on. Here is more believable than the retcons about Dimitri that and the others needed for Saga, for instance. This is just one example of possibly others where Monolith Soft, the actual creators of the franchise, could fit X without the need of retcons or minimal retcons, just the need to stick a bit strongly on eternal reocorrence.
@@Galaxy40k I mean, maybe? It is stated that people and objects from earth vanished to somewhere else and we know they didn't get sucked into the Xenoblade 1 world because nothing showed up there besides Zanza, Mayneth and Ontos.(At least assuming no further retcons)
noah throwing the sword now that we know pyra and mythra reside within is like, oh god
The beginning of Chapter 5 certainly made me feel full of beans.
Honestly think both Lucky Seven and Matthew’s fist are powered by the Pneuma core instead of one being Logos. Literally based on Rex’s dialogue and the *they*, he refers too is Pyra and Mythra, because something similar happened to when Rex said if * Those two* were here.
It makes clear that both are powered by the pneuma core.
The Logos core I believe is in N's weapon. Pneuma's core is in Matthew's. The swords forged from Origin merely act as conduits to unleash their full power. That's the implication I think. That blade is then either given to a version of Noah who then has it through his numerous cycles OR Matthew finds a way to essentially insert that blade into the network that all the various inhabitants draw their blades and the Pneuma core waited until the right user came along.
@@Nuvendil the problem with that is that it is stated in game that Matthew got the core from his grandfather, which he got it from his parents. And the shade/core was passed from father to son. So yes it’s implied that N’s sword is also pneuma.
So, coming from someone who hasnt played X, what if Project Exodus was reworked at the last moment to be the last ditch effort instead of the colonization of the universe? The dates not lining up is definitely a tell of the connection not being there, but in theory, dates and times could get jumbled during humanity's literal extinction event (if im reading into it correctly) to attempt to find a suitable planet/system to evacuate to and start anew. Im willing to be wrong, and I have only half of the story since again, I have not played X. Food for thought though, I found it interesting on how Monolith intertwined the whole of the Xeno series.
I am just so freaking happy I watched your playthrough for this specific moment in the series
I really think they're more so going to take ideas, concepts, and many other things from Xenosaga and Xenoblade X and even Xenogears (Stuff in Xenoblade 3 concepts from 3) and incorporate them into into Xenoblade. Rewrite/retell to make them all fit a little better and give a more conclusive vibe to those project that didn't get to reach their full ambition. Xenoblade 4 or whatever it will be called maube starts a new saga involving those concepts and ideas. Be interesting to experience a Xenoblade storyline set with space travel
Take the time u need I love ur guides!! Sometimes I still watch ur Fiora, Corvin, Cos Mos and qtPi guides just cuz I love breaking the game. Excited to see what u have in store!
I appreciate that I now have enough knowledge of xenosaga to also immediately think the blue light falling to the earth was a reference to Kos-mos. Never played xenosaga myself only watched the play through you did, so I knew damn well I was missing something in the radio when it started dropping names and talking bout space travel but at least I caught the big one at the end there.
I love this expansion so much, might be my favorite besides Torna given how much you’re rewarded for exploring. While this could be Shulk and Rex’s last appearance outside of spinoff games like Smash, it’s is sad but also a good farewell. They were really done amazing in FR and I had fun using them one last time.
Takahashi took us for a wild ride and I can’t wait to see where his next trip takes us, definitely looking forward to Xenoblade Chronicles 4, or whatever he calls the next Xeno series!
That radio sets up so many new stories
Ever since I saw the conduit in XBC2 I had in my mind that Wilhem manipuleted Claus.
I mean he could be behind Deus and other things.
It would be interesting to see all 4 lines combine into one. XCX could be it's own pocket dimension aswell as the gears cast, only the saga one being outside of that.
Based on that one little conversation between elma, rex, kos-mos, and shulk in Xenoblade 2, I don't think Takahashi is going to directly exclude any of the series from this point forward whether that be saga or X. I would say we'll at least get an X DE and a xenosaga trilogy each with retcons kind of like xenoblade 1 got since the series has gained so much popularity. Heck Harada said xenosaga was going to get remastered at one point, it just wasn't financially viable at the time.
I was already a fan of Rex, but now he's goated for me.
From his intro in the game I didn't stop using him!
Not only is he a Gigachad, but he's an absolute unit in combat.
His damage potential is ridiculous :D
Didn't get a chance to watch until now, but this video dropped literally the instant I finished the DLC last night. Great timing for me specifically!
I think another amazing part of the DLC was that ending montage of all the big moments from each game and the music 😭😭
Can't wait for the future offering from Monolith Soft as they continue to prove why Nintendo invested resources to pick them up back in the day.
Because they liked their games. It wasn’t because of a successful track record or even that the games were good.
Don't forget Monolith been working on Nintendos big releases since they where acquired from Bandai
@@mrbubbles6468 The games were good though.
@@FelixS. I wouldn’t say so much good rather they are interesting and unique and often have very unique gameplay and storytelling structures.
@@mrbubbles6468 No. Good like very good. especially XS1, XS3 and Baten Kaitos.
Also, *SPOILERS*
About the Logos implication. So would it be like Pneuma having used her data of him to recreate a core crystal to complete the processor? I know Malos kinda did that to restore himself at the Cliffs of Morytha, but at the end of 2, he was _destroyed._ Like completely. Also the worlds combining means Noah and Mio DO reunite definitively! :D
Also I don't think it is stated at any point in 1 2 or 3 that there is no extra-terrestrial life.
I mean logos is just an object, it can be recreated
The craziest part is that means that the computer tied to the Trinity Processor must've had Data on KOS-MOS and thus she was made as a Blade in 2
Damn this one good discussion
about Future Redeemed
From Gameplay, Characters Features, Story, & Lore
You Really Went in with the Lore halfway through the video Xenosaga Blade
it sounded almost like you threw Xenoblade X under the BUS lol
good vid 👍
There's a lot of stuff in Future Redeemed that just feels so cathartic to uncover, mostly because of how bluntly it just ties certain topics together.
Just in case, I don't wanna spoil anyone wandering around in the comments;
It's just stuff like "Yeah, Alvis was Ontos. Like, the whole time, as part of the Processor, in tow with Pneuma and Logos.", y'know, that thing we've speculated and all but confirmed, but never had an actual answer for for years now? There's no beating around the bush, just straight to the point, the writers respect the time and dedication of the long-time Xeno fans enough to simply hand the answer to you. Like, they already know that we know, but it's that little nugget of concrete evidence to reward that commitment that I appreciate the most.
There's a bunch of those, like with how on the nose they were about Shulk and Rex's kids without straight up telling you (because they also respect that we're capable of putting two and two together), the radio broadcast making that nod towards XCX and Gears/Saga, but not completely letting on as to which one it references (it's nice to think that they haven't totally forgotten XCX), and Matthew's family name dropped right at the very end (I super appreciate that, ngl).
It's just good, man. Some parts could obviously have been fleshed out a little more, but with how stacked the trilogy has been until this point, I feel like it's fine to leave it as it is. Anything more would be like being spoon-fed the answers, and it'd kind of ruin the loose sort of vagueness that has become something of a trademark for the series. As much as I appreciate how direct FR is in some aspects (in particular, being some of the longer running mysteries), some things are just better left unspoken.
I had fun, I'm sad that it's over, but I'm elated to have been able to follow it from the beginning as this chapter finally reaches it's end. Part of me hopes we won't have to wait too long for whatever they're planning next, but more than anything, I'd want Monolith to take a well-deserved rest. They've been cranking out bangers for this long, not only on their own projects, but on everyone else's as well, they've definitely earned it.
I love seeing you mash screenshot during those scenes
I just finished the DLC and marathon it so I didn’t get spoiled and I loved when the radio was in the background just steadily dropping truth bombs. I never played xeno saga so thanks for explaining the connection.
I love what they did with the collect and enemy pedias and having community and everything pay into one pool of points that upgrades stats, arts and skills. But yeah I’d like the extra stages of the affinity growth charts, accessory and gem slots being tied to levelling up rather than lying around
Thank you so much for playing Xenosaga on your channel to give people like me a similar experience I totally overlooked the Vector logo and first thought Dimitri would just be an easter egg to tickle Xeno Fans Balls but also thought about KOSMOS in the end and all these discoveries afterwards lead to an interesting evening where me and a friend of mine would theorize the crap out of this. I hope we will get the Xenosaga Trilogy in new form on the Switch to share the amazement it sparked in me with others who never had the chance to experience that.
Now one thing not to underestimate is that Xenoblade 1-3 are still taking place in Episode 1-3 of Perfect Works if they're parallel to these games. Which means X could still come at the end somehow. We should Not forget there are Xenosaga ships in one of the final cutscenes of the Main Story and lore wise Samaarians created Ganglion. My theory is they used Technology similar to the Lifehold to do that, it is canon that artificial bio life is creatable so who knows. At this point I would even believe X standing for 10. Though I'll be happy even if it boils down as its own thing and gets at least something one day. But Saga Fans waited even longer so feed them first
Xenoblade Saga being the next series title would bring things full circle
as a Xeno dweeb who's been not-so-low-key *obsessed* after their first playthrough of the first saga... the yelling. the flailing. the FERAL MONKEY SHRIEKING AND DESK-SLAPPING. about that logo and name drop and little blue sparkle.
Really, really hoping we get a dovetail double dip and see these universes' lores merged somehow, but even if we don't? The kind of long-plan, ultrarich, emotionally nuanced and *healthy* (and psychically damaging at times, let's be real) story-weaving that went into the Klaus/Blade arc is so, so, so, incredibly rewarding even on repeat playthroughs.
I just. After the narrative tour-de-force of XC3, imagining just how much more engrossing and obsession-inducing a redux of or return to XS could be is frankly ridiculous. Imagining the battle mechanics, the environments, the soundtrack, the story parallels and synergies... (monkey shrieking intensifies)!!
so yeah. XC3, back with some hot new DLC (and a common variety Nopon) to a) rekindle an old hyperfixation, b) break my heart *again* after XC3 already did it, and then c) yeet said heart into fricken hyperspace with LORE IMPLICATIONS
As someone who hasn’t played Saga or Gears (I played a bit Saga 1 when it came out but have like zero story memories) and hasn’t played X I still could tell the radio was super important as it was happening and felt it at least had to have some connection to X if not more so for me it was more exciting knowing that some crazy shit must’ve been happening that o didn’t know but could eventually go online to find out!
I really hope they remake Xenosaga and Xenogears, it will be my first time playing them and I want to get hype by that radio as well and the post credit scene
Who knows if remakes/remasters will ever happen at all though. I seriously suggest playing the original titles if you're interested at all, these are some of the best games ever made in my eyes and emulating them is an extremely simple process.
i think the sweet spot for the kits is enough for everyone to have the first unlock of each thing at least around the main path that isnt to hard to find, that gives enough flexability with power, but to truly get the good stuff you need to hunt.
i havnt gone through xenosaga yet my self, but i knew that radio had faaaar to much significants and was paying attention to it far to much for what was actually happening. i knew i was missing context, but theres something, and oh boy its a hell of a ride thats planned here
I've played 1, Future Connected, 2, Torna, 3 and Future Redeemed. I guess I just have to come to terms with the fact that I don't understand some of the important lore parts. I'm glad to see so many people are super hyped about the lore implication, but it would've been cool to also understand them myself.
I am So Happy getting to reach this age and play xenoblade games.
When I first entered Yesterdale and heard that Colony 9 music from the original Xenoblade I was filled with a rush of nostalgia. This DLC made me so damn happy.
I 100% missed everything that was going on with the radio. However, I have decided to start Xenosaga now.
Great video, I'm super excited for what this series has to offer. The Vector logo literally made me jump out of my seat in surprise, and I still just cannot fathom it.
Do you plan on speedrunning the DLC when you can? If so, do you think it's a better speedrun game than Torna? Would love to hear your thoughts.
Damn personally i was freaking out by project Exodus mention and the blue shooting star at the end that i thought might be the white whale crashing on mira, but after listening to you YOU BROKE MY DREAMS (lol no jk). I didn't play Saga but i watched the cutscene compilation so about 24h cinematic to get the lore, and i couldn't remember anything lol but what you said makes sense.
I think there is still a possibility that somehow earth post and pre Aionios aren't the same, which would explain why in X there is no trace of the big orbital circle, like maybe SAGA is pre and during xenoblade arc and X takes place after the dimensions fused back together, and at this moment the place where the alien attack is either not the same earth, just a look alike with human life (and a coveniently named place "Los angeles" and USA lol) and Mira would be the place where xenoblade 1 & 2 fused back (coping on that cause it would give "explanation possibilities" of a shiton of weird stuff about mira), or is the same place and all the alien in X not appearing in SAGA is a coïncidence.
I know a good part of what i said can be easily disproven by game lore but...
PLEASE
LET ME BELIEVE IN XENO X PORTAGE
BRING IN SAGA TOO IF YOU WANT I DONT CARE (Hate the protag tho)