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“I know what’s going on here. I know what’s going on here. Okay? I do. And if you want me to wander backstage to spill the beans... I’m the only one out of the loop, it would seem... and if we check my point total here- I don’t NEED to walk to the front, because I know what it is. It’s a big ol’ GOOSE EGG, GANG. It’s a FAT ZERO. HELLO!! A little LATE ADDITION to the numerical symbol chart brought to us from our friends in Arabia, a little bit of trivia that I happen to know about the history of numbers. That kind of little tidbit would serve me well in most trivia games, unless it had been RIGGED FROM THE BEGINNING! Oh, I’ve only just BEGUN to pull the thread-” “Hey Hemingway, let’s hear a little click clack on those keys while you fix some shit.” I have put it into words for your reading pleasure.
@@luisadesoveralbotelho5754 Yaaaayyy!!! I think I saw a NB TikTok with them in it, but I wasn’t sure, because sometimes you get off-topic or just allies.
Jacob Jimenez Ernest Hemingway was a famous American Novelist and Journalist, he wrote a few of the great literary classics. It would be like calling someone ‘Einstein’, where you’re asserting their intelligence bluntly. By saying ‘Hemingway’ instead, he’s saying he’s a good writer, rather than that he knows science or w/e. That help?
For everyone getting salty about the fact that Brennan broke his world to honor a Nat20, he didn’t. Yes, he said he had to change about 20% of his plans, but he still created a non-supernatural, scientific explanation, to explain the results of this roll. A story-line which, although I’m unsure exactly how improvised it was, was in part set up in the past with another ‘ghost’ sighting in the second episode. The results of this Nat20, when taken in the context of the subsequent story-line seems logical and completely fits into the world. Brennan is a top-tier improviser, and the subsequent story seems so organic and pre-planned that it doesn’t feel as though this roll broke the game at all.
yeah, from what he's said after, this was always going to be the case. So I wonder what he did change, if he wasn't lying about that. Maybe seeing the 'ghost' and moving up that reveal?
I there's a difference between "honor Nat20s" and "Nat20s allow you to declare facts about a setting." You can't roll a Nat20 and declare that ghosts are real if they aren't in the setting.
@@issiahslaughter6324 Yes, I'm saying the people criticizing Brenda for not just allowing "ghost are real" are off-base. Some players seem to feel that Nat20s should allow them to do basically anything.
It could've just been a perception check to see if ghosts are real. When you roll a nat 20 he just goes yep, you can see without a doubt that ghosts are not real.
"I check to see if ghosts are real" "roll" "Nat 20!" "After checking, you can say with 100% certainty, without a shadow of a doubt, that ghosts aren't real" "oh"
Not in modern Meme'ND, where nat 20's mean you teleport behind the BBEG and kill him in one shot and then convince the king he's a hobo and you're actually god.
"However, your studious observations were noticed by an unseen, cosmic power. The knowledge of what lies beyond has been granted to you by means you cannot fully comprehend, young Fhtagn."
@@fruitbatfox I sound like I have basic respect for the rules of the game, and the setting in which I'm playing. Both of which the majority of DnD actual plays blatantly ignore. Which is a problem, because every newcomer to the hobby now thinks that the rule book is meaningless, and the setting is never to be respected.
On one of my very first campaigns with my brother, waaaaay back in the '70s, he wandered off away from the party and fell in a pit trap. After realizing that nobody knew where he was and he couldn't climb out, he said "Fine. I tell my rope to go find something to tie itself to." When I told him to roll and gave him a 1% chance of success, he didn't get a nat 20; he got a nat 100! (i.e. two zeros on a pair of d10s). ...and that was how he discovered that he had a magic rope that he could command.
Damn, Brennan is a nice guy, they said “To see if ghosts are real” he could have just said “After strenuous research, you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that ghosts are not real, and the entire ghost believer community now hates you”
@@joan9180 Correct. He had to construct this super-elaborate way of making it _appear_ ghosts were real, even though they aren't, so the players would still be surprised by the twist. Of course, because he's Brennan, he pulled it off seamlessly.
I hope they have another short of just Brennan doing that, and then it cuts when he's pulled back into consciousness. .. Or you know him flirting with Matt Mercer in Pirates of Leviathan, that too would be cool.
As a DM these are the moments your proudest of but also the ones you dread the most cause it can screw up all your plans but you somehow feel proud your players though of something you didn’t
If he had said to roll for it then it's on him but she rolled unprompted meaning the roll took place completely outside of the game and should have no impact.
Mulligan doesn’t ask for or allow a roll unless he is fully willing to honor all possible outcomes. He may be surprised, but he goes in with open eyes. A GM who isn’t ready to suffer is a bad GM. Mulligan ain’t no bad GM.
A great moment that showcases Brennan's mental agility as a DM. I wish I had the chops to respect nat-20s like he does. Also, watching Grant play D&D is super entertaining. He definitely needs to do more "nerd sh*t" in the future
I see those first two statements in opposition. to be honest i think he overplays his "frustration" when his players roll well some times, i think he stretches it to a point where you can tell he's just hyping them and making them think they just scored a big win. It also gives him a lot of time to stall and think about how he can play out the scene to satisfy the player while keeping the damage controlled. For instance for this particular roll Rekha didn't actually get the effect she wanted. Brennan only honored the "ghosts are real" bit and gave them even more questions, and didn't give the PCs any of the information she was trying to score by having the ghost move through the hole. Do I dislike Brennan as a DM for this? Hell no. Because THAT'S what i see as mental agility. He subverts the premise of the request while still making the players happy. A worse DM wouldn't be able to come up with something on the fly, and they'd have to either scrap a ton of prep for the mystery or just tell the player, "No, you can't do that." TL DR yes, it does show of his skill and mental agility as a DM. But it's because of how cleverly he ignores the nat 20, not because he honored it.
As the DM, you absolutely do not have to respect Nat20s the way he does. Skill checks have no crit successes, so if it's something you don't want to reveal you just don't
@@FrensKafka to prove a point, add dramatic stakes, or maybe guage how big of a failure it was. Like, right off the top of my head, an instance where you might do that would be if the BBEG is talking to you or something, and you try to roll intimidation. If they hit a nat 20, and still fail, that gives the party perspective into how daunting this guy really is, and can add a lot of drama to a situation
I love how Brennan just totally disregards the whole nat 20s don't work for ability checks or saving throw, he just does cool shit because why the fuck not.
@@louparis1909 oh for sure, my old homebrew campaign I allowed it. And it made for some very funny moments, but on the same note I also made nat 1's an auto fail as well.
I once was DM for an ametuer game, made a whole script and everything, one player killed an old man that was supposed to give them a clue and i didn't have a backup plan. So the script only lasted 20 minutes, but luckily i was able to improvise and made it into a 4 hour campaign
@@llen7489 Create the world first, figure out how all of the set pieces inside work, and put a bunch of different interesting stuff in it. THEN make the story around all of that, and if you need to adlib stuff, then you already know how everything functions and can wing it.
It's funny because it didn't actually break him at all. He masterfully used it to propel the story, hint at further mysteries, and intrigue the party. Ya know, like an absolute gangsta
@@ashenwuss1651 technically nat 20s don't work that way, I believe they're meant only for combat, but collectively we've all decided to overrule that but things don't have to be this dumb if the Dm doesn't want them to be.
I love Grant not giving a fuck, "Eat shit" right at the end made me laugh so hard. He's so blunt to people, and the way they torture him they can't even be mad.
The fact he didn’t just go “you now with 100% certainty that ghosts are not real” or something along those lines, and actually went with it because it was a fun and creative idea from a player that wasn’t completely outlandish, shows just how good of a DM he is
Brennan would later equate this request to summon a ghost for the purpose of looking in an office to asking “I would like the one true lord and savior Jesus Christ to appear to me and give me 2 pepperoni pizzas”
I once started a campaign where one of the players before we even started making character sheets asked the dm "is there any situation where you would allow somebody to roll for something that you had no intention in letting them succeed at even with a nat 20?" Probably the most helpful pre campaign question ever.
I mean, to be fair, what happened as a result has been explained in subsequent episodes, but like, it must have meant he had to change his original plan at least a little to make it work ❤️
"Hi! I'm Steven, the C.E.O. of 'That was a bullshit roll.' and I'm here to talk to you about how that roll was bullshit. I spent 3 months of the pandemic creating this elaborate trap for the party and my joy is ruined."
This is a dumb way to handle nat 20 anyways. "OMG nat 20!!! It only happens once every 20 rolls!!! A miracle!! Please give me reddit gold!!" So dumb. When "Rolling to see if ghosts are real" the roll should indicate if the character reads the situation correctly, not what the situation is. When a character rolls to "Find a sharp object", they could roll a 100 on a d20 and still not find shit if there was no sharp object in the room to begin with.
@@RDR911 there is nothing to defend them from, litterally y'all are complaining about a group of freinds playing pretend the "wrong" way like actually touch grass
Sometimes i dont let them roll for stuff i dont want them to do "I want to jump to the moon!" "...roll?" "Nat 20!" *sigh* "you jump. And just at the moment your jumpheight peaks a gust of Wind..."
I get that not every DM style works at every table, but man, it’s actually hilarious seeing people mad at Brennan being willing to roll with the result and do the fun and cool thing
Omg I didn't really know anything about Mice and Murder (I'm watching in release order and am still back on the unsleeping city season 1, gotta catch up) but wow this is a great cast of players!!!
A lot of people in this comment section are thinking they have full context from this short alone and are being very salty about things they obviously don't understand. Watch the full sidequest before complaining about "bad players" or "bad DMs"; obviously this clip was edited waaaay down. Brennan's doing fine, they're all still friends, the story continued on. It's frustrating to see how quickly people want to jump on the criticism bandwagon.
people love gatekeeping and shitting on other people lol. very specific with how they want their players to play or dms to dm. everyone has their own way to play the game because it's just a game, and it only matters that everyone has fun. idk how some people miss that aspect of it so badly
She actually asked to roll to see if a ghost could help her get stuff from a secret room. The "see if ghosts are real" was just chatting in-between. Telling her "ghosts are not real" would actually be failing in what she wanted to do
Would have broken the game even more than this. It was supposed to be a mystery and one of the big plot points was that ghosts aren’t real but it SEEMS like they might be. He managed to give her something without revealing that, but telling her ghosts aren’t real would have ruined that whole plot.
These are the moments I’m proud of my players cause they did something I didn’t predict they got me by the seat of my pants… but goddamit it’s the worst
For someone who doesn't know the context of this, could you explain? So the role was for her to figure out it ghosts were real? So why couldn't he just say, "You succefully found out that ghosts aren't real." Also isn't isn't a weird role? I feel like it would make more sense if I had the context
@@Jason_Bryant you say that, but they actually pulled that off in a newer episode. In essence, a bunch of bad guys from previous episodes got a castle or something, a natural reservoir of flammable gas, and set up a trap. The gang's task was to, y'know, escape, but Velma actually pointed out they could have sold the reservoir and made bank.
I am not satisfied with the provided context, so I will add my own. This is a murder mystery. They are all sleuths trying to figure out the mystery. It is supposed to be semi-realistic (the characters are all antropomorphic animals, so very much "semi"), so ghosts don't really fit well into the genre especially since they have gone to some lengths to remove spell casters using anything close to magic. That being said, this is a mystery set in a manor during a thunder storm, so the occult and ghosts are very much fitting for the theme, and several occurences previously in the show have hinted at or suggested that something supernatural might be going on. Daisy, Rehka's character, is in a Seance room, and she wants to see if she can use ghosts to get into a secret room without finding the secret entrance. She rolls a nat20, which in some campaigns is an automatic success. She didn't actually roll to see if ghosts are real, she rolled to get a ghost, whether they exist or not, to help her. An automatic success here really doesn't work if ghosts aren't real. So Brennan can either make ghosts real, tell her ghosts aren't real and make her fail despite getting a nat20, or let her succeed in some other way than making ghosts real. Brennan *really* cares about honoring nat20s. They are not automatic successes, you don't get everything you want, but they will pretty much always let you do something cool. So when faced with a nat20 that basically implies ghosts are real already, Brennan really has to struggle to honor the roll without ruining everything and I think he did a solid job
@@dig8634 i want the spoiler info🥺 just maybe put a “SPOILER ALLERT” at the beginning of the explanation so as to not ruin a random comment-surfers experience abruptly. haha, if u would like :) thx
My favorite part of this is Brennan was just going along with the bit, but there was already an explanation for this setup with the peppers ghost foreshadowing xD
Brennan is awesome. I wouldn't let a Nat 20 necessarily determine what happens or what reality is, but Brennan does and then rolls with it and makes up some crazy stuff on the fly
Brennan, as DM, had every right to shut this idea down or step around it but he rolled with it in his own way cuz it was more fun for the Players that way. Thats how Brennan works. Its his thing.
@@Firbolgdruid78 this is on their streaming site Dropout and the episode is like, 4 or 3 I can't remember. It's not on youtube if that's what you're asking, also also, i recommend watching the whole season if you can 👀
This reminds me of a game me and my friend played where we had to basically role nat 20s to jump across a cavern because plot stuff needed to happen down there and accidentally all rolled nat 20s in a statistical anomaly basically making our DM throw away like half of her story and just info dumping via the villain who was shocked as all hell to see us there many hours too early.
Brennan Lee Mulligan: “No nat 20 has ever been so untimely.” **Spoilers for Season One of Fantasy High** Kristen Applebees: *travels to corn heaven again*, *finds that god has been kidnapped and has had his identity stolen*, *creates a new god in the infinite abyss that is the literal embodiment of the word “YES!”*, *sneaks a lunatic out of corn heaven in her backpack*, *stops time*, profit???
Ah yes using the rules to balance the game and to help DMs from feeling stressed and pressured to do things they may not want to do. Such terrible people, I mean just the worst. They should be banned from ever touching DnD again. As we all know DMs are only good if they do exactly what we want them to do and must bend to their player's every demand. Even though the DMs put much more work into the game than the players as we all know the DMs wishes and enjoyment is insignificant as long as the players are having fun.
We were going to get another epic meltdown monologue and then, "Hey Hemmingway, let's hear a little click clack on those keys." LOL
“I know what’s going on here. I know what’s going on here. Okay? I do. And if you want me to wander backstage to spill the beans... I’m the only one out of the loop, it would seem... and if we check my point total here- I don’t NEED to walk to the front, because I know what it is. It’s a big ol’ GOOSE EGG, GANG. It’s a FAT ZERO. HELLO!! A little LATE ADDITION to the numerical symbol chart brought to us from our friends in Arabia, a little bit of trivia that I happen to know about the history of numbers. That kind of little tidbit would serve me well in most trivia games, unless it had been RIGGED FROM THE BEGINNING! Oh, I’ve only just BEGUN to pull the thread-”
“Hey Hemingway, let’s hear a little click clack on those keys while you fix some shit.”
I have put it into words for your reading pleasure.
@@talanium i love grant huhuhu
I have never witnessed a smoother murder of a human soul. Truly masterful.
i believe the full context for this was that he was just that morning hemingwaying it up apparently to adjust to something from the previous session.
i think of grant as the anti brennan. A gross idiot without a sincere bone in his body and a mean streak in his wit
That "watch you nat 20 on this" was actually a blessing in disguise, that was ally transferring their narrative nat 20s to rekha
question is ally nonbinary?
@@the_clumsy_wizard8910 yup
@@luisadesoveralbotelho5754 Yaaaayyy!!! I think I saw a NB TikTok with them in it, but I wasn’t sure, because sometimes you get off-topic or just allies.
If you dont want to be defined... why define yourself
@@yourenosey7604 what?
“Hey Hemingway” is the sickest way to interrupt someone
its good to see grants funny on the fly and not just in scripted videos
I don’t get it, someone help?
Jacob Jimenez Ernest Hemingway was a famous American Novelist and Journalist, he wrote a few of the great literary classics. It would be like calling someone ‘Einstein’, where you’re asserting their intelligence bluntly. By saying ‘Hemingway’ instead, he’s saying he’s a good writer, rather than that he knows science or w/e. That help?
@@remainprofane7732 or that he's verbose, but good summary
@@remainprofane7732 Hemingway
For everyone getting salty about the fact that Brennan broke his world to honor a Nat20, he didn’t. Yes, he said he had to change about 20% of his plans, but he still created a non-supernatural, scientific explanation, to explain the results of this roll. A story-line which, although I’m unsure exactly how improvised it was, was in part set up in the past with another ‘ghost’ sighting in the second episode. The results of this Nat20, when taken in the context of the subsequent story-line seems logical and completely fits into the world. Brennan is a top-tier improviser, and the subsequent story seems so organic and pre-planned that it doesn’t feel as though this roll broke the game at all.
yeah, from what he's said after, this was always going to be the case. So I wonder what he did change, if he wasn't lying about that. Maybe seeing the 'ghost' and moving up that reveal?
I there's a difference between "honor Nat20s" and "Nat20s allow you to declare facts about a setting." You can't roll a Nat20 and declare that ghosts are real if they aren't in the setting.
@@TacticusPrime isnt that exactly what happened tho
@@issiahslaughter6324 Yes, I'm saying the people criticizing Brenda for not just allowing "ghost are real" are off-base. Some players seem to feel that Nat20s should allow them to do basically anything.
It could've just been a perception check to see if ghosts are real. When you roll a nat 20 he just goes yep, you can see without a doubt that ghosts are not real.
lmao seeing everyone's haircut after mostly only watching pre-pandemic stuff is wild
Ally's haircut is the big one for me
Especially Ally's. If it were bot for the voice I definitely wouldn't have recognized them coming from The Unsleeping City
I love Ally
"I check to see if ghosts are real"
"roll"
"Nat 20!"
"After checking, you can say with 100% certainty, without a shadow of a doubt, that ghosts aren't real"
"oh"
Not in modern Meme'ND, where nat 20's mean you teleport behind the BBEG and kill him in one shot and then convince the king he's a hobo and you're actually god.
"However, your studious observations were noticed by an unseen, cosmic power. The knowledge of what lies beyond has been granted to you by means you cannot fully comprehend, young Fhtagn."
@@kilbert666 you sound fun 💀
@@fruitbatfox I sound like I have basic respect for the rules of the game, and the setting in which I'm playing. Both of which the majority of DnD actual plays blatantly ignore.
Which is a problem, because every newcomer to the hobby now thinks that the rule book is meaningless, and the setting is never to be respected.
@@kilbert666 that’s just untrue?
On one of my very first campaigns with my brother, waaaaay back in the '70s, he wandered off away from the party and fell in a pit trap. After realizing that nobody knew where he was and he couldn't climb out, he said "Fine. I tell my rope to go find something to tie itself to." When I told him to roll and gave him a 1% chance of success, he didn't get a nat 20; he got a nat 100! (i.e. two zeros on a pair of d10s).
...and that was how he discovered that he had a magic rope that he could command.
Damn!
I'm currently *thriving* now that I'm aware of this experience. 🙏 Thank you. Lol.
I'm sooo confused by this
This might be my favorite thing ever actually
Lmaoooooooo
"Yeah, hey Hemingway? Let's hear a little click clack on those keys while you fix some shit." THAT is a baller line
Damn, Brennan is a nice guy, they said “To see if ghosts are real” he could have just said “After strenuous research, you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that ghosts are not real, and the entire ghost believer community now hates you”
Nah that would’ve messed things up even more actually. Ghosts ended up not being real and it was a HUGE plot point
@@joan9180 Correct. He had to construct this super-elaborate way of making it _appear_ ghosts were real, even though they aren't, so the players would still be surprised by the twist. Of course, because he's Brennan, he pulled it off seamlessly.
I'm late but also he didn't say they can roll for it. So technicaly he could have just ignored it completely.
@@andraskovacs5431 Also, the roll wasnt for "are ghosts real?" It was for "Can a ghost do this for me?"
@@andraskovacs5431 You're also wrong, this is not the full scene.
This season had some crazy Nat20s, but that one was on another level.
i think it'd be safe to call it...supernatural
@@CubanSpartan You son of a spirit! I see what you have just pulled and I acknowledge it *fully!*
Wich seaso n was this
@@nickgames1892 Mice and Murders
@@CubanSpartan I am literally yelling right now oh my GOD that was good
I love how they had to cut out so much of Brennan just staring into the ether
I hope they have another short of just Brennan doing that, and then it cuts when he's pulled back into consciousness.
.. Or you know him flirting with Matt Mercer in Pirates of Leviathan, that too would be cool.
“This is the end of my life”
That’s okay, because of nat 20 that just means you’re a ghost now
After Allie pulled that in FHSY, Brennan really needs to stop going "sure you can roll for that" unless he's ready to suffer the consequences.
As a DM these are the moments your proudest of but also the ones you dread the most cause it can screw up all your plans but you somehow feel proud your players though of something you didn’t
he is ready! brennan is the best
If he had said to roll for it then it's on him but she rolled unprompted meaning the roll took place completely outside of the game and should have no impact.
@@Jason_Bryant ahh OK I haven't watched this game yet just recently finished misfits and magic
Mulligan doesn’t ask for or allow a roll unless he is fully willing to honor all possible outcomes. He may be surprised, but he goes in with open eyes.
A GM who isn’t ready to suffer is a bad GM. Mulligan ain’t no bad GM.
That Hemingway diss is marvelous.
A great moment that showcases Brennan's mental agility as a DM. I wish I had the chops to respect nat-20s like he does.
Also, watching Grant play D&D is super entertaining. He definitely needs to do more "nerd sh*t" in the future
I see those first two statements in opposition. to be honest i think he overplays his "frustration" when his players roll well some times, i think he stretches it to a point where you can tell he's just hyping them and making them think they just scored a big win. It also gives him a lot of time to stall and think about how he can play out the scene to satisfy the player while keeping the damage controlled. For instance for this particular roll Rekha didn't actually get the effect she wanted. Brennan only honored the "ghosts are real" bit and gave them even more questions, and didn't give the PCs any of the information she was trying to score by having the ghost move through the hole.
Do I dislike Brennan as a DM for this? Hell no. Because THAT'S what i see as mental agility. He subverts the premise of the request while still making the players happy. A worse DM wouldn't be able to come up with something on the fly, and they'd have to either scrap a ton of prep for the mystery or just tell the player, "No, you can't do that."
TL DR yes, it does show of his skill and mental agility as a DM. But it's because of how cleverly he ignores the nat 20, not because he honored it.
As the DM, you absolutely do not have to respect Nat20s the way he does. Skill checks have no crit successes, so if it's something you don't want to reveal you just don't
@@JaxonUm Preach
@@JaxonUm If a nat 20 wouldn't work then why would you have them roll in the first place?
@@FrensKafka to prove a point, add dramatic stakes, or maybe guage how big of a failure it was. Like, right off the top of my head, an instance where you might do that would be if the BBEG is talking to you or something, and you try to roll intimidation. If they hit a nat 20, and still fail, that gives the party perspective into how daunting this guy really is, and can add a lot of drama to a situation
Brennan: "This is the end of my life."
Me: "Well, good news for you, you're coming back as a ghost "
I love how Brennan just totally disregards the whole nat 20s don't work for ability checks or saving throw, he just does cool shit because why the fuck not.
Homebrew man. Those can getcha
@@louparis1909 oh for sure, my old homebrew campaign I allowed it. And it made for some very funny moments, but on the same note I also made nat 1's an auto fail as well.
@@hustlerbojenkins2543 Same, You got to have balance.
Crit successes/fails are in the 5e DMG as optional it's not homebrew
@@dunkindognuts3345 yes.
Therapist: Ghosts aren't real, they can't hurt you
The ghost:
I got a nat 20 to eat a fire elemental as a fireproof character once
OH MY GOD HAHA
Did it work?
You straight up Natsu-ed his ass lol
That's pretty hot
"I roll to vore the fire elemental"
*Dead silence*
I once was DM for an ametuer game, made a whole script and everything, one player killed an old man that was supposed to give them a clue and i didn't have a backup plan. So the script only lasted 20 minutes, but luckily i was able to improvise and made it into a 4 hour campaign
How did you improvise? I often run into problems like this lol
Old man didn't have a twin hiding in the corner? 🤣
To be fair could have had another old man somewhere else.
@@llen7489 Create the world first, figure out how all of the set pieces inside work, and put a bunch of different interesting stuff in it. THEN make the story around all of that, and if you need to adlib stuff, then you already know how everything functions and can wing it.
@@llen7489 the thing about improvising is that if there was one right way to do it, it wouldn’t be improv. Just make shit up my dude.
"Hey Hemingway, let's hear a little click clack on those keys" I'm dead lmaooo i love grant
Brennan's face literally shown him debating the pros and cons of renting a high rise apartment just so he could fall further
A cruel dm would make them fight a couple ghosts later on
A great*
You misspelled "fair"
You misspelled out of context
0:48 "This is the end of my life." Well, I mean...we know ghosts are real now, so it can't be so bad, right?
It's funny because it didn't actually break him at all. He masterfully used it to propel the story, hint at further mysteries, and intrigue the party. Ya know, like an absolute gangsta
Katie seeming genuinely concerned about Brennan is unexpectedly wholesome
Katie is exceptionally wholesome and immaculately cursed
I love how mid-episode also gets sad cos Ally keeps getting interrupted huhu and she tells the cast to let them finish huhu
@@jadeyu7197 huhu?
I can't believe that a Nat 20 can bring a ghost into existence, where ghost's dont exist.
"Ghosts are real"
Well yes, but actually no
This is when d&d/ttrpg can be dumb. If there's no ghost, how does a nat 20 change that?
Technically the Nat 20 didn't do that. The Dm can do that though.
@@ashenwuss1651 technically nat 20s don't work that way, I believe they're meant only for combat, but collectively we've all decided to overrule that but things don't have to be this dumb if the Dm doesn't want them to be.
@@P4rz1va1 I know this lol. It's how people feel obligated to break story and world settings because of a roll of a die. So dumb
I love the domino effect of Vicar Ian having a real crisis of faith from this point forward.
Ally looks like a young handsome Dwight Schrute in this.
Isn't Dwight a young handsome Dwight Schrute?
@@P4rz1va1 Nah he old
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Identity theft is not a game, Ally! Millions of people suffer every year!
Would you call them… Maculine Fertile?
DMs be like
1-19: "Okay so here's what happens..."
Nat. 20: "Okay so tell me what happens..."
How it should be
In the adventuring shorts he goes on to describe how he worked in the new changes to the home so that he could honor her nat 20. What an amazing DM
I love Grant not giving a fuck, "Eat shit" right at the end made me laugh so hard. He's so blunt to people, and the way they torture him they can't even be mad.
The fact he didn’t just go “you now with 100% certainty that ghosts are not real” or something along those lines, and actually went with it because it was a fun and creative idea from a player that wasn’t completely outlandish, shows just how good of a DM he is
Grant is truly the king of back-handed compliments.
They didn't wait for the DM to confirm the roll, Brennan could've just "Noped" on them super hard. XD
Nah this clip is just edited down. He asked for a religion check if I remember correctly
It’s a good job they found out ghosts are real. Since that Nat20 ended his life, he can still continue his campaign as a ghost!
Brennan would later equate this request to summon a ghost for the purpose of looking in an office to asking “I would like the one true lord and savior Jesus Christ to appear to me and give me 2 pepperoni pizzas”
"hey Brennan, eat shit" is my favourite line from RUclips shorts this far
brennan leaves the call.
Cut to: this weeks episode of Fantasy high Junior year and the K2 mess😂😂😂
I once started a campaign where one of the players before we even started making character sheets asked the dm "is there any situation where you would allow somebody to roll for something that you had no intention in letting them succeed at even with a nat 20?" Probably the most helpful pre campaign question ever.
I mean, to be fair, what happened as a result has been explained in subsequent episodes, but like, it must have meant he had to change his original plan at least a little to make it work ❤️
He said in a recent adventuring party that this roll forced him to have to rework about 20% of the campaign
@@rachelgrubman4606 That’s wild
"Hi! I'm Steven, the C.E.O. of 'That was a bullshit roll.' and I'm here to talk to you about how that roll was bullshit. I spent 3 months of the pandemic creating this elaborate trap for the party and my joy is ruined."
1) You clearly didn't watch the episode
2) Hello railroader
It's funny how they thought Brennan wasn't already broken
You believe whole heartedly that ghosts exist no matter what. You spend the next five minutes mumbling and humming.
"This is literally the end of my life" it's OK, ghosts are real.
Brennan becomes the ghost that has to go through the tiny hole and is unofficially a new party member that gets summoned to help with stuff
His face looks as defeated as the CEO character in the Tide Pods skit from College Humor.
This was the BEGINNING, like one of if not the FIRST rolls in this session y'all. And let tell you, it only gets more bananas from here.
“This is the end of my life”
Are YOU the ghost?
Cuts to: *”Brennan and Shane just crying in the corner together”*
The moment you realize all the ceos sketches are how he is in real life
Ally willed it and so it was.
“I am ruined”
Proceeds to spin ghosts into the story in a plausible and thematically appropriate way
the face of a man who has sO much rewriting ahead of him
This is a dumb way to handle nat 20 anyways. "OMG nat 20!!! It only happens once every 20 rolls!!! A miracle!! Please give me reddit gold!!" So dumb. When "Rolling to see if ghosts are real" the roll should indicate if the character reads the situation correctly, not what the situation is. When a character rolls to "Find a sharp object", they could roll a 100 on a d20 and still not find shit if there was no sharp object in the room to begin with.
@@AKKK1182 they are just having fun
@@roxystanton7060 damn you're really in every comment defending them, huh? They'lre not gonna notice you lol.
@@RDR911 huh? i replied to two people lol
@@RDR911 there is nothing to defend them from, litterally y'all are complaining about a group of freinds playing pretend the "wrong" way like actually touch grass
Ally Beardsley really is a Bard with that Inspiration they just threw at Rekha. God, I love them 🤣
i really want to know what brennan had planned before this happened, because surely this changed the course of the campaign at least a bit
Sort of? The episode after this had some fucking crazy explanation for ghosts, which was some how both completely ridiculous and super believable.
Month late, by he legit had to change abt 20% of the script
This season of d20 really cemented Brennan as my dm inspiration
Sometimes i dont let them roll for stuff i dont want them to do
"I want to jump to the moon!"
"...roll?"
"Nat 20!"
*sigh* "you jump. And just at the moment your jumpheight peaks a gust of Wind..."
I get that not every DM style works at every table, but man, it’s actually hilarious seeing people mad at Brennan being willing to roll with the result and do the fun and cool thing
Ghost are real. Brennan played a civil war one in an improv skit. He knows what's up.
That's the face of a DM who just realized he has changed his entire world lol
Omg I didn't really know anything about Mice and Murder (I'm watching in release order and am still back on the unsleeping city season 1, gotta catch up) but wow this is a great cast of players!!!
Sam's maniacal cackle gets me every time
A lot of people in this comment section are thinking they have full context from this short alone and are being very salty about things they obviously don't understand. Watch the full sidequest before complaining about "bad players" or "bad DMs"; obviously this clip was edited waaaay down. Brennan's doing fine, they're all still friends, the story continued on. It's frustrating to see how quickly people want to jump on the criticism bandwagon.
people love gatekeeping and shitting on other people lol. very specific with how they want their players to play or dms to dm. everyone has their own way to play the game because it's just a game, and it only matters that everyone has fun. idk how some people miss that aspect of it so badly
“Hey hemmingway” LMAO
She said "roll to see if ghosts are real" and Brennan could respond with a ghosts aren't real
She actually asked to roll to see if a ghost could help her get stuff from a secret room. The "see if ghosts are real" was just chatting in-between.
Telling her "ghosts are not real" would actually be failing in what she wanted to do
Would have broken the game even more than this. It was supposed to be a mystery and one of the big plot points was that ghosts aren’t real but it SEEMS like they might be. He managed to give her something without revealing that, but telling her ghosts aren’t real would have ruined that whole plot.
@@joan9180 Thank you
These are the moments I’m proud of my players cause they did something I didn’t predict they got me by the seat of my pants… but goddamit it’s the worst
Every time I see this thumbnail it looks like Brennan is wearing gigantic hoop earrings 😂😂
For someone who doesn't know the context of this, could you explain? So the role was for her to figure out it ghosts were real? So why couldn't he just say, "You succefully found out that ghosts aren't real." Also isn't isn't a weird role? I feel like it would make more sense if I had the context
@@Jason_Bryant you say that, but they actually pulled that off in a newer episode. In essence, a bunch of bad guys from previous episodes got a castle or something, a natural reservoir of flammable gas, and set up a trap. The gang's task was to, y'know, escape, but Velma actually pointed out they could have sold the reservoir and made bank.
I am not satisfied with the provided context, so I will add my own.
This is a murder mystery. They are all sleuths trying to figure out the mystery. It is supposed to be semi-realistic (the characters are all antropomorphic animals, so very much "semi"), so ghosts don't really fit well into the genre especially since they have gone to some lengths to remove spell casters using anything close to magic.
That being said, this is a mystery set in a manor during a thunder storm, so the occult and ghosts are very much fitting for the theme, and several occurences previously in the show have hinted at or suggested that something supernatural might be going on.
Daisy, Rehka's character, is in a Seance room, and she wants to see if she can use ghosts to get into a secret room without finding the secret entrance. She rolls a nat20, which in some campaigns is an automatic success. She didn't actually roll to see if ghosts are real, she rolled to get a ghost, whether they exist or not, to help her. An automatic success here really doesn't work if ghosts aren't real.
So Brennan can either make ghosts real, tell her ghosts aren't real and make her fail despite getting a nat20, or let her succeed in some other way than making ghosts real.
Brennan *really* cares about honoring nat20s. They are not automatic successes, you don't get everything you want, but they will pretty much always let you do something cool.
So when faced with a nat20 that basically implies ghosts are real already, Brennan really has to struggle to honor the roll without ruining everything and I think he did a solid job
@@dig8634 ooooo! That makes so much more sense! I love it, hahahaha. What did Brennan do?
@@wx7fm You want the spoiler information, or should I try to keep it non-spoiler for you?
@@dig8634 i want the spoiler info🥺 just maybe put a “SPOILER ALLERT” at the beginning of the explanation so as to not ruin a random comment-surfers experience abruptly. haha, if u would like :) thx
Brennan thinking this is the worst bag 20 moment she hilariously.
Ally’s crooked glasses while saying “ghosts are real” is a whole gender
My favorite part of this is Brennan was just going along with the bit, but there was already an explanation for this setup with the peppers ghost foreshadowing xD
Brennan is awesome. I wouldn't let a Nat 20 necessarily determine what happens or what reality is, but Brennan does and then rolls with it and makes up some crazy stuff on the fly
When it cuts back to Ally and their glasses are all wonky, that was really funny
Anyone Else notice how many videos with the same name as this exist?
There's just the Adventuring Party right?
First clip I’ve ever seen of these guys… this is great, and I need more!
I love it when GMs pretend that they have been thwarted by the players.
That did it for me,finally subscribed to Dropout. Here, take my money for this awesome content!
Ally is ridiculously attractive
EDIT: That nat 20 was pree crazy too
Brennan, as DM, had every right to shut this idea down or step around it but he rolled with it in his own way cuz it was more fun for the Players that way. Thats how Brennan works. Its his thing.
Wait till Brennan hears about the time I got a nat 20 in sleight of hand and successfully hid a full sized dead body behind my hand
I once Nat 20’d to learn the squirrel language.
Bu-bu-bu-buh, some people should check out the episode on dropout before taking this as full context dodooodooo
What is the episode I just finished fantasy high and was going to start another season
@@Firbolgdruid78 this is on their streaming site Dropout and the episode is like, 4 or 3 I can't remember. It's not on youtube if that's what you're asking, also also, i recommend watching the whole season if you can 👀
every time i see the thumbnail of this video, i always think that it’s brennan wearing some cool hoop earrings when in fact it’s just wired earphones
This is the end of my life
Sooooo he's a ghost now?
"This is the end of my life" well at least we know he's coming back as a ghost.
This reminds me of a game me and my friend played where we had to basically role nat 20s to jump across a cavern because plot stuff needed to happen down there and accidentally all rolled nat 20s in a statistical anomaly basically making our DM throw away like half of her story and just info dumping via the villain who was shocked as all hell to see us there many hours too early.
The evolving expression on Brennan’s face is priceless.
what episode is this from?
So i guess with a nat 20, not only are ghosts real but they also prove their existence by kicking Brennan in the mouth
Brennan Lee Mulligan:
“No nat 20 has ever been so untimely.”
**Spoilers for Season One of Fantasy High**
Kristen Applebees:
*travels to corn heaven again*, *finds that god has been kidnapped and has had his identity stolen*, *creates a new god in the infinite abyss that is the literal embodiment of the word “YES!”*, *sneaks a lunatic out of corn heaven in her backpack*, *stops time*, profit???
"This is the end of my life"
Well, good thing ghosts are real
What was that, a history check? If she nat 20s that she would just know for sure whether ghosts are real
Yes but it's more entertaining the other way
It was a religion check to channel the spirits
Oh, that’s like totally fair game then 😂
Brennan shouldn’t have let her roll if he didn’t want ghosts
The editing of this makes it feel like a feverdream and I hate it
He never said she could roll, tbf 😂
Grant: “people think I’m heartless. But this is actually pay back for that true actual facts video.”
Y'all seem to have a basic misunderstanding of their friendship dynamic. He didn't really mean it ruined him. Y'all need to take several chill pills
I imagine his head going "If I allow this to happe, what else can they abuse this for?"
Every bad GM in the comments: He doesn't have to honor that! That's not RAW! She rolled on her own!
Every good GM: Oh no.
Ah yes using the rules to balance the game and to help DMs from feeling stressed and pressured to do things they may not want to do. Such terrible people, I mean just the worst. They should be banned from ever touching DnD again. As we all know DMs are only good if they do exactly what we want them to do and must bend to their player's every demand. Even though the DMs put much more work into the game than the players as we all know the DMs wishes and enjoyment is insignificant as long as the players are having fun.
^Worst GM