DOES JINHSI DEAL THE MOST DAMAGE IN WUTHERING WAVES? | Jinhsi Damage Calculations
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
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Thanks for the google sheet, I have been looking for this.
One note: when I saw that big 120% Spectro dmg, I moved 30% to ATK and her damage is increased, and even moving 60% to ATK is better. So probably her best 3 slots are Spectro-ATK or ATK-ATK (but Verina will buff this), instead of Spectro-Spectro. This is a good news, making her easier to build.
da best!
Before you pull: Test her in trial if you like the gameplay
me with full prefarmed build 👀
Me too! lol
Thanks for advice
I loved her gameplay she's so smooth she's like a butterfly I got her in 30 pulls then right after I got her main weapon in my first single pull so I'm really happy with her I had fun destroying the monsters I struggled against before
@@Pookiesukuna
I was on 53 pity, pulled till 72... got Qiqi (Lingyand), got anoyed and i keep pulling with my free currency and i got her on 72... yezz that was not a good roll overall with 16 pulls till hard pity.
I trew rest of my shop currency and got 30 billets, pulled, got her weapon on 30 pity and i still have 7 billets left :D
Also whole patch of currency left so i have a pretty good chance on changli after (but 100% not weapon).
Holy crap, this is amazing! Thank you for doing the work on this. Ill definitely be subscribing
Thank you! Welcome!
Thank you for always bringing numbers, super valuable to me and I’ve been a subscriber since before 2.0 in hsr.
In term of how to improve: you can consider two routes, one to be more inclusive for casual and one to go deeper into hardcore which is your current audience.
1. Casual(relative, no true casual watch these type of vids): simplify language, a better presentation of numbers and a general idea of how it compares to meta. A presentation could be similar to the one pagers in genshin where it includes weapons material artifacts but instead it includes numbers and comparisons. Once a template is made it can be reusable
2. Details: your current content for calcs are based on one or two premise usually. Personally it’s enough for me to know where things stand but having presented real numbers in meetings irl, I find that people generally don’t grasp what data people grasp. It’s better to do comparisons and benchmarks. How much better than x? Bp weapon? F2P weapon? Sig weapon? Etc
Ok i see what youre saying! Thank you I will take this into consideration! Videos might be lo ger but yeah it makes sense to throw in a couple comparissons or benchmarks
Irrelevant fyi to anyone to cares - the letter q in Chinese prounounce as ch. qi is really chi, this is the best way I can explain to non speakers, for example Qing que from hsr - Ching chue.
Letter U prounounce as yu. Say it fast enough and you got it.
I need a Chinese tutorial cause the way I be butchering these names bro let me tell you lol
Thanks for the informations and calculations! You're the best! ❤
Naa youre the best! Appreciate the support!
Great to see you decided to cover WuWa calcs. I’m curious to see if Jinhsi will be the Acheron of early WuWa or if most future folks will be like her.
If you are looking for more content ideas, I’m really curious who her best supports will be. Folks initially say Taoqi, but I think E6 Spectro Rover may be comparable because of the 10% Spectro res shred to everything (instead of just resonance skill) and that they move alot quicker than Taoqi (never mind Yinlin!).
You forget incandescence stack. Taoqi builds more than Rover and if you wanna use Verina.
Jinhsi+Rover+Verina won't give enough stacks quickly.
Also depending on how many dupes you get Taoqi does more damage than Spectro Rover.
S6 Taoqi > S6 Rover. A lot of Taoqi gives/allow more damage.
Jinshi will probably be powercrept
@@dendenmushi9714 thanks for the explanation! Would then Yanwu be a better option for building stacks quickly, given his intro, quick attacks, and turret (or whatever it is) that he puts down?
Yeah Im planning on makin afew more videos soon!
Very likely being a DPS
Amazing content 👏🏼
I'm also probably going for her S2R1
Good luck!
I hope Magistrates are as op as Archons in genshin.
Emanators***... Screw anything genshin related
@@DeathWing572 This is like a metal fan saying "screw classic rock." Have some class and respect the OGs.
@@Squashua2727Genshin too is a copy yk right
Probably not, she is a magistrate when we still haven’t seen the empress who is probably the archon of wuwa.
Heck hierarchy wise, Changli ranks higher than her iirc.
@@Radiant450Changli is her mentor yes.
wow, i hope you do more of these for future characters! looking forward to your uploads, it helps a lot :D
Thats the plan! Thank you for watching!
I'm building my Taoqi right now! I got her up to level 65 but my echo's still need work. I am holding off until the QoL changes, to save some resources.
Anyway, good video!
The animations alone already convinced me
Super sick animations
Thanks for the spreadsheet, looks fun to experiment with until I pull her!
Enjoy!
Good stuff, will have to see ingame how her s2 works cause some translations suggest she gets 50 stacks when out of combat (not off field in combat), and that would mean its one instance only of 50 stacks in tower and that would be a god awful sequence, so it can be either godlike or trash, lets hope its the former cause im going for the same (2 jinhsis pulled + 1 copy from shop).
how much of those corals you got already
@@lemonadestandclips3349 Not much cause i skipped both Jiyan and Yinlin, so im going all in on Jinhsi and Changli.
Why bother with a 4 second cooldown if it only triggered when the whole team goes out of combat?
@@thefox1799 Because it could be an overworld sequence (which would make s2 trash), and her sequence 3 giving incandescence is giving me bad vibes, cause if s2 meant 50 stacks every 5 secs off field then they wouldnt bother giving you incandescence on her intro with s3.
If its out of combat i dont see why they state that it can be activated once every 4 secs. But hopefully its the way I think it works instead of you actually have to be completely out of combat for 4 secs that would be garbage ngl
great video as always. the only suggestion i'd make is if you don't plan on making multiple videos for the same character with for different weapons and team comps, maybe showing different weapons beside's their sig would be nice. i'm still thinking if i should try to get her sig, or use the BP one which i should be able to upgrate it to S4 by in 1.1
I am looking to make another video shwoig which weapons are better. Probably tomorrow
For the video! Definitely pulling for her and her weapon. 🙌🏼
Just as a note since you're probably going to have to say her name a ton more times in upcoming videos - Taoqi is two syllables, tow like you saw cow, and chi like when you're referring spiritual energy, so tow-chi. Thanks for all the calcs! I'm super hype of Jinhsi.
THANK YOU I WAS GOING INSANE HEARING TA OO KI
Thank you! I have no idea how to say any of these names tbh and being hispanic we hard pronounce vowels so I just went with it 😂
@@iSUMMONYT For sure - I struggle a lot too since I don't speak Chinese at all, just Korean and English. I know that awkward feeling of "I think I'm pronouncing this wrong but idk" but I'm not making videos for the public so just wanted to help lol.
@@FlyingPancake0390 aye I appreciate you looking out!
I really want to understand how she'll play in game
I take sheet maths with a grain of salt because it's a totally different ball game when you try to do it practically
That's a skill issue. Math usually assumes you are playing at an optimal level.
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 ok
You can also add the 22.5% atk and 10% dmg bonus coming from Taoqi with thr Moonlit set with Impermanence Heron, Aditional 10% dmg bonus from the Verina turtle too
Are you calculating this correct? Bcs yeas there is something like skill dmg boost and it only boost skil dmg but its the same type/its addative to simple spectro dmg bonus, so its not rly a separate multiplayer.
All the dmg bonuses on the "build" side are additive but they are separate since they buff diff parts of her kit
Great analysis
Also please how good do you think her weapon will be on Calcharo?
Basically should i consider getting it for calcharo?
If you could also explain the power difference between he's BiS and hers that would help alot thanks
Ok i'll keep this in mind!
@@iSUMMONYT thank you
Waiting for dmg calcs for changli, love your content brother
She coming after my Jinhsi calc videos!
@@iSUMMONYTthanks bro, I'm waiting 😌
It would be nice if there was a comparison of her to Jiyan, I wonder overall how much higher damage she does compared to him.
I'll make that video soon!
wow nice I wasn't expecting these numbers
Just uploaded new calcs comparing to Jiyan
@@iSUMMONYT I'll check it
did they change the incandescense multiplier again from 44% to 32% ?
Thats for lvl 6. For lvl 10 its 44%
@@iSUMMONYT ah so it scales good info brother
Would be nice if you mentioned how her damage compares to other meta carries like Jiyan, Havoc MC, etc. When you mention Jinshi does 100k damage it's difficult for me to put in perspective what that really means. None of my characters do anything near 100k so it's hard for me to relate how good she is.
I have another video coming that compares the most relevant DPS characters! It just takes a while to set these up
My havoc rover deals 120k damage
Very indepth overview and it's nice that you included lvl 6 skills. But please, it's Tao-chi. Just a little distracting.
My bad lol idk how to pronounce any of them names tbh
I CANNOT WAIT FOR JINHSI 😭😭😭😭
Why would the crit multiplier be only 1.4x instead of 1.8x?
200% crit damage is effectively 2x damage.
Cuz 50% crit rate means the multiplier is effective half of the time
@@qlqjd856 Understandable, but he is doing the math for what she could potentially be doing so those numbers are actually lower than actual ingame numbers with the same build stats
Its because i have to average out the times that she crits and the times that she doesnt to calculate crit mult more accurately. Its the regular way that crit numbers are calculated in sheets not in-game ofc.
@@iSUMMONYT Ah fair enough, thank you for the information, your work is appreciated! :D
Compare with another character, or else it's just a number like with (Jiangli) both are main dps
Yeah im doing Jiyan and Yinlin comparison soon
Very cool! But I am waiting Changli
She's liked me
Coming Soon!
Waiting for the same thing buh for Changli ngl
Highest I've hit on havoc rover was like 130k she is insane
yeah people been hitting for a lot of dmg! I cant get that high lol
You don’t want to run Verina before RS2 because of her stacks. It might better to run Baizhu or a gauntlet user w/ healer set.
Yo summon me and you got to chop it up some time I feel like you one of the best Calcs guide makes out there with Smack
Im down! Add me on Discord
@@iSUMMONYT Bet I will send you a request soon let me get out of work in a few
Thank you bro, both 1.1 characters look really good especially Changli😏
Nice video! Only thing i noticed is her basic attack doesnt increase with skill dmg in incarnation state. Iirc her basics in incarnation count as skill damage!
is that a good thing or a bad thing
@@jamesloopin641 Good because her signature weapon gives 48% skill damage bonus
The site doesnt say anything about her Incarnation counting as Skill DMG but if thats the case then shes even better than I thought!
how badly does she need her signature? I accidentally pulled Jiyan's signature would it work okay or is the standard 5 star weapon better?
Her signature is around 27% stronger than standard 5 star while its 17% stronger than verdant summit
I have already decided that I will pull for her and her weapon, but I want to wait for the first day reviews first
Need short answer
Is she stronger then Jiyan at S0 with standart 5star broadsword?
Jinshi with her signature is better than jiyan with his signature. Idk what the standard weapon banners broadblade is so can't say
I will make the comparison video soon
@@idoodle7629how much better?
Waiting on changli 👀
علاوي حبيب كلبي ابو حسين
I goit afew Jinhsi Videos to make first but shes coming too!
The banner says 1 day left but they said 1.1 comes out on June 28th. So is she actually releasing tomorrow?
had the same question
This is weird, i didnt noticed it said 1 day left wth lol
I think it will just have no limited banner until 1.1. Genshin does this too, although with much less time inbetween.
my jinshi is gonna have 95 crit and 230 cdmg i got really lucky with sets , obviusly with her weapon
So you're not using juè?
@@DeathWing5724 cost is the easiest piece to farm
Cant wait to play jinshi 😭 and im planning to use the standart weapon, is it good? Or there good 4star?
If you like her get her sig. the standard 4 stars are dogshit.
Just like in Genshin or HSR, you can use the F2P weapons but Gacha ones are usually 20 to 40% stronger
Battlepass autumntrace is the best cheaper version
Me too!
S0R1 Jiyan vs S0R1 Yinlin vs S0R1 Jinhsi vs S0R1 Changli which does the most damage?
Thats a meaty video right there lol
@@iSUMMONYT yep would actually love that !
who are you summoning for?
Jinhsi 🔥
@@iSUMMONYT goodluck on your summons, me personally Changli
It s interesting in comparison changli
3 more days. Good luck everyone🍷🗿
Good Luck!
Most wont be using Toaqi, her concerto takes to long to build. Most will use Yinlin or another coordinated attacker for her stack building.
That's where Jihnsi kit comes in. Obviously, you don't know the leaks. Jihnsi has a "neglect concert energy/alternative proc outro intro" passive on her kit.
@@russlmao7091 Yeah thats not how that works. Its only a free outro for her.
@@weslawrence888 you're right, my bad
Monster Hunter Days, fatalis rip
Hyped for Wilds
Hows her damage compared to jiyan?
Thats coming soon!
i love your explanation as always
Thankss for watching!
Ta-Yow-Ki. Bro turn Chinese name into Japanese.
Aye man idk either language I say it how I read it 😂
Verinaisu! TY
You don't get 50 stacks on swap in with S2. Just start a fight with 50 stacks. Info says out of combat not off field.
Oh i gotta look into that
Our man is a grammar teacher. ❤❤❤ Needa clarify right
Jinhsi may be powerful. But her attack animations are a tad bit bland, Changli just looks waaay fun to play with like its not even close..
BASED
my man, i couldn't disagree more. i think both are looking amazing but jinhsi has a slightly advantage for me bacause she summons a fucking dragon
Both their animations are equally beautiful. That's why I skipped 1.0 and will be getting both
I guess the big question for me is, is she better than Jiyan?
On paper, yes. We just need gameplay to see otherwise.
she might have the highest damage but her gameplay might be not as comfortable as jiyan
This has me a bit worried because if she can only gain 1 stack per second, you need 50 secs to do her big nuke so it would actually be a DPS loss trying to min max over that aspect. We need her to release and to test her out to see how reliab,ly can we get her stacks up
SO ult will hit as hard as rover ult not bad
Who gonna tell him that not how the S2 work
Someone already pointed it out. Kind of disappointed tbh. I liked it more how I thought it worked
Is this r0-r6?
R0
Taoqi is pronounced Taow (Ta like tamarind, ow like ow that hurts) then Chee (like beginning of cheese). Rly butchered that one.
I know approximately 0 chinese how am I supossed to know how to perfectly pronounce all these names 😂
@@iSUMMONYT Its not hard to learn how to pronounce them. Some people even make videos on youtube to help others lmaoo. Google translate might say it right too.
@@melon2378 I got too much going on to be doing all that. Yall are here to correct me anyways lol
wheres the sheet
Thanks for reminding me
Its on the description and pinned comment
@@iSUMMONYT thanks man
I seriously have 0 words. About being wrong with your math skills . Jianshi + weapon its 50% critical rate with 0 rolls. Literally same mistake about calculating Jiyan and 44111 . 😢
Im not sure what you mean. Youre saying im wrong or that youre wrong? Lol
@@iSUMMONYT As a player i have full respect for you and i watch videos about game i like. But your calculations are about 15% to 20% off from the calculator maths . Again full respect 🙏 But your max rolls looks like mine with no tuning .
@@BloodyVeel oh no those are not max rolls at all i just rather have less stats on the sheet for people that would have less stats. Also what calculator are you talking about?
@@iSUMMONYT Ill put it so simple to end this . Jinshi critical rate echo + weapon 0 rolls 45%+ critical rate . Jinshi 3 mid rolls its 69% your max was 60% so my calculator came with 9 % more with 3 mid rolls.
@@BloodyVeel well no, Jinhsi (8%) with Crit Rate 4 Cost (22%) + Weapon lvl 70 (20%) = 50%
i did 60% so its about 2 min rolls so its more relatable for most people.