Thanks so much for sharing. I love the science that explains why certain techniques work. I am a jewelry maker (self taught) and have struggled with polishing and buffing. This will really help me now that I understand it better. Have you ever used radial discs on a dremel or flex shaft? I know everyone in the jewelry field loves them. I am curious if they are more for buffing or polishing.
Thanks Justin. It took 15:52 to teach that. Dar n! Guy knows a lot and takes forever to say it. Good speaking voice and easily understood but could have been done in half the time making it much more interesting thereby leaving us more time to watch some of his other vids. Lordy, mercy. Love ya.
Hi, I watch both videos 101 and 102. My hardwear store has 6 different compounds, 3 for soft metals and 3 for hard, can all 6 be used in a 6. Step cycle of buffing and polishing for hard metal? How do you know how high # of buffing with sandpaper do I go up to before polishing with compound? Is it all experimental or is there a formula, like your second video you sanded to 600 grit then you went to compound, and then how many compounds to get a mirror finish, I understand the theory more now from your videos but just trying to get a good system thankyou!!!
i used to sand aluminium bull bars for a job and all the sanders were air powered circular motion and that made the next finer grit sanding easier and the mirror finish at the end was amazing thank you roy love your chats
+grayem pepper that is a great piece of information I also use a angle grinder in my bowls with a sanding disc to remove a lot of the dings in there as it is not a flat object. I'm glad you enjoyed the video my friend God bless
grayem pepper yes, and the proper technique with a dual action sander is to not let it spin just oscillate. If you would draw a line with a sharpie it should not move. I used to weld, repair, aluminum panels and other pieces to a mirror finish. You could never achieve this with going across the grain. Only with the grain. Some guys doing plastics, use the same technique in this video, might work for them. Although if I go the same way can get the same results that is so deep it nearly sets off a halo. I think how ever you are taught plays a big role but in all the fabrication shops i've been in the last near thirty years practices what i have attempted to explain.
This video is so flawed, we don't bend nothing we remove, polishing and buffing are synonyms, you don't need to crosscut when sanding only last grit you using...
When we polish (material removal) and buff (not removing material) we have found that it's very important to work out all the grain from coarser grits before moving on to finer. Slightly switching directions allows the deepest score lines from coarser grits to be visible when working on the next finer grit. If you polish or grind in the same exact direction it's difficult to see the deep score marks. It's easy to make something shiny but not flat. We sometimes use belts and add Tripoli compound to a 600 grit belt to make it a bit finer. We also find that once buffing, the metal has to get really hot. Going to the finer compounds on a cold part just smears the compound on the part where it then solidifies. So the last stages in buffing are done 1-2-3 on the same part to keep it really hot. The hotter it is, the higher the polish. And the last two stages resist the temptation to load up the wheels with compound. A little goes a long way.
Hi there! I am trying to polish bronze plate for door pulls. So very flat surface and need a high polish on it. We have started with 240 grit and worked our way up to 3000 used tripoli and a rubbing/polishing compound. Cannot get the swirls out from the grits. SO frustrating not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Hi thanks for this. I needed this video because I am working on a metal arcade control panel that I am trying to restore. I have the material I need but still lack some knowledge. This is a great introduction into do my project.
Thank you for showing us. I've been struggling with multiple pieces I want to restore. I tried everything under the sun to get what you explained. Diolch
Pretty difficult to sand a knifeblade across the blade, I can see where youre coming from, perhaps you'd now like to tell me how to sand 'across' a blade!
Hi, I like to use copper sheet to cut out L bar style electrical contacts for Mechanical Mods (Vaping devices for those wishing to quit smoking) my question is this: I have two flat surfaces, one is copper, the other is stainless steel (unknown grade). How important is it for those electrical contacts to have a mirror finish for the connection areas? Basically can the electrical connection area have a well sanded and polished matte finish and still function well electrically? The maximum voltage load that will be traveling through them will be extremely small: no more than 4.2 Volts, usually around 3.8 V. I seem to be getting the same "performance" that I've gotten from very well polished sheet copper, and I would like to avoid doing any unnecessary work. Your, and anyone elses input is *greatly* appreciated. Thanks! ✌
A year late but anyway... any finishing you do beyond deburring (don't want one part to contact sooner than the main area, it'll arc), flattening (maximise surface contact area) and a light sanding (to remove oxidation and dirt), would be purely cosmetic (or quality of workmanship, depending on how you see things). Polishing and buffing won't make much difference electrically, not on a vape.
I decided to practice polish my Estwing hammer! I sanded in multidirection pattern. In no time it came up very nice. But I need to sand some more then buff?
I had a kitchen Island made at a metal shop. The maker said he tumbled the piece. It is not the same finish as the corbels I had made by someone else. My husband wants me and him to correct the finish . I can send pictures I want a buff finish.
lol Just use EXL nylon wheels itll knock everything down and leave a great finish. no matter the direction. Then finish it up with hi-grit sandpaper or rouge and cotton wheel.
When you say that you should run the buffer the opposite way to the sanding scratches, are you referring to the first set of scratches from the low-grit sanding, or the last set of scratches from the highest grit?
How many compounds do you use to buff and polish hard metal, and how high number sand paper do you go to, I ask you some questions before and i didn't get a response, just want to collect as much knowable information as posible, thankyou!!!
Hard metal compounds come in about three grades made for the purpose same as the copper or soft metal ( i.e coarse,medium,fine...). with hard metals you need to bring the peice up to as high a grit as possible with grinding before going to buffing and polishing compounds..usually about 800-1,000 grit to get a really nicely polished peice. Hope this helps God bless
You mentioned, grind one way, buff the opposite and then polish the same way you ground. Do you alternate the direction through the different grits and then just buff the opposite way of the last grit?
Thank you, Professor Christ, this is the best explanation of metal finishing I've listened to.
I’ve spent countless hours trying to understand what I was doing wrong. Thank you. You don’t know how much I appreciate this.
Thanks so much for sharing. I love the science that explains why certain techniques work. I am a jewelry maker (self taught) and have struggled with polishing and buffing. This will really help me now that I understand it better.
Have you ever used radial discs on a dremel or flex shaft? I know everyone in the jewelry field loves them. I am curious if they are more for buffing or polishing.
Thanks! Good stuff to know!
Excellent
Do you recommend going both ways polishing the piece? i understand the grit just was seeing how u sanded your pieces.
Respect who taught u
"scientifical" lol
Jesus. Just polish something.
Thanks Justin. It took 15:52 to teach that. Dar n! Guy knows a lot and takes forever to say it. Good speaking voice and easily understood but could have been done in half the time making it much more interesting thereby leaving us more time to watch some of his other vids. Lordy, mercy. Love ya.
As a woodworker trying to work some metal to a mirror finish, this video compared to others finally helped and made a lot of sense. What a difference!
Glad you found it helpful
Hi, I watch both videos 101 and 102. My hardwear store has 6 different compounds, 3 for soft metals and 3 for hard, can all 6 be used in a 6. Step cycle of buffing and polishing for hard metal? How do you know how high # of buffing with sandpaper do I go up to before polishing with compound? Is it all experimental or is there a formula, like your second video you sanded to 600 grit then you went to compound, and then how many compounds to get a mirror finish, I understand the theory more now from your videos but just trying to get a good system thankyou!!!
2:24 Lumpies or Bumpies, are those scientific terms? :)
Or when he gets "scientifical" about "refracting" light off a parabolic surface 😏
So if I'm using 600 grit one way do I use 600 the other way? Then repeat with 800, 1000 e.t.c? Or do I use 600 one way and 800 the other way?
i used to sand aluminium bull bars for a job and all the sanders were air powered circular motion and that made the next finer grit sanding easier and the mirror finish at the end was amazing thank you roy love your chats
+grayem pepper that is a great piece of information I also use a angle grinder in my bowls with a sanding disc to remove a lot of the dings in there as it is not a flat object. I'm glad you enjoyed the video my friend God bless
grayem pepper yes, and the proper technique with a dual action sander is to not let it spin just oscillate. If you would draw a line with a sharpie it should not move.
I used to weld, repair, aluminum panels and other pieces to a mirror finish. You could never achieve this with going across the grain. Only with the grain. Some guys doing plastics, use the same technique in this video, might work for them. Although if I go the same way can get the same results that is so deep it nearly sets off a halo.
I think how ever you are taught plays a big role but in all the fabrication shops i've been in the last near thirty years practices what i have attempted to explain.
This video is so flawed, we don't bend nothing we remove, polishing and buffing are synonyms, you don't need to crosscut when sanding only last grit you using...
🥇 6:34 the best explanation "ever" on youtube about Polish Metal ! Best regards !
Have you ever polished a brass bell? I'm trying to polish a brass locomotive bell
When we polish (material removal) and buff (not removing material) we have found that it's very important to work out all the grain from coarser grits before moving on to finer. Slightly switching directions allows the deepest score lines from coarser grits to be visible when working on the next finer grit. If you polish or grind in the same exact direction it's difficult to see the deep score marks. It's easy to make something shiny but not flat. We sometimes use belts and add Tripoli compound to a 600 grit belt to make it a bit finer. We also find that once buffing, the metal has to get really hot. Going to the finer compounds on a cold part just smears the compound on the part where it then solidifies. So the last stages in buffing are done 1-2-3 on the same part to keep it really hot. The hotter it is, the higher the polish. And the last two stages resist the temptation to load up the wheels with compound. A little goes a long way.
Hi there! I am trying to polish bronze plate for door pulls. So very flat surface and need a high polish on it. We have started with 240 grit and worked our way up to 3000 used tripoli and a rubbing/polishing compound. Cannot get the swirls out from the grits. SO frustrating not sure what I'm doing wrong.
@@erikabodine6230 just curious if you ended up resolving the issue?
Does anyone have a link to the video that follows up on this with him polishing bowls?
Hi thanks for this. I needed this video because I am working on a metal arcade control panel that I am trying to restore. I have the material I need but still lack some knowledge. This is a great introduction into do my project.
Interesting I will try this with my knives I will leave the edge alone though.
Nice, that was really useful. thanks!
+bmud first you're welcome thank you for taking the time to watch God bless you
A bit long winded are we?
You have no idea 😉 lol
Thank you for showing us. I've been struggling with multiple pieces I want to restore. I tried everything under the sun to get what you explained. Diolch
Pretty difficult to sand a knifeblade across the blade, I can see where youre coming from, perhaps you'd now like to tell me how to sand 'across' a blade!
Hi, I like to use copper sheet to cut out L bar style electrical contacts for Mechanical Mods (Vaping devices for those wishing to quit smoking) my question is this: I have two flat surfaces, one is copper, the other is stainless steel (unknown grade). How important is it for those electrical contacts to have a mirror finish for the connection areas? Basically can the electrical connection area have a well sanded and polished matte finish and still function well electrically? The maximum voltage load that will be traveling through them will be extremely small: no more than 4.2 Volts, usually around 3.8 V. I seem to be getting the same "performance" that I've gotten from very well polished sheet copper, and I would like to avoid doing any unnecessary work. Your, and anyone elses input is *greatly* appreciated. Thanks! ✌
A year late but anyway... any finishing you do beyond deburring (don't want one part to contact sooner than the main area, it'll arc), flattening (maximise surface contact area) and a light sanding (to remove oxidation and dirt), would be purely cosmetic (or quality of workmanship, depending on how you see things). Polishing and buffing won't make much difference electrically, not on a vape.
I decided to practice polish my Estwing hammer! I sanded in multidirection pattern. In no time it came up very nice. But I need to sand some more then buff?
Criss crossing with the same grit or changing the direction only when you move to a new and higher grit? Which one are you talking about here?
Excellent teaching thank you
I had a kitchen Island made at a metal shop. The maker said he tumbled the piece. It is not the same finish as the corbels I had made by someone else. My husband wants me and him to correct the finish . I can send pictures I want a buff finish.
thanks for the share , God Bless you sir : )
Im a crude welder with 9"grinder.looks shiney when im done but never learned polishing. Thx x
lol Just use EXL nylon wheels itll knock everything down and leave a great finish. no matter the direction. Then finish it up with hi-grit sandpaper or rouge and cotton wheel.
im a microfinishing technician and I can make mirror finishes on anything. 2> surface finishes.
On the naked eye of the human level. Прекрасная фраза.
Thanks for the good information.
Our pleasure!
That was awesome but I don't see the 2nd part to this video
Yes I watched the whole thing... very informative
Good explanation, I am using it at work, ignore arrogant comment
When you say that you should run the buffer the opposite way to the sanding scratches, are you referring to the first set of scratches from the low-grit sanding, or the last set of scratches from the highest grit?
+hellbirdsflight the last grit that is applied or your highest grit is the one that you run opposite to when buffing.
Brad Pitts brother Stu?
thanks
great information
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How many compounds do you use to buff and polish hard metal, and how high number sand paper do you go to, I ask you some questions before and i didn't get a response, just want to collect as much knowable information as posible, thankyou!!!
Hard metal compounds come in about three grades made for the purpose same as the copper or soft metal ( i.e coarse,medium,fine...).
with hard metals you need to bring the peice up to as high a grit as possible with grinding before going to buffing and polishing compounds..usually about 800-1,000 grit to get a really nicely polished peice.
Hope this helps
God bless
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You mentioned, grind one way, buff the opposite and then polish the same way you ground.
Do you alternate the direction through the different grits and then just buff the opposite way of the last grit?
10 seconds into the video i notice the christ thing 🤢 no thanks, ill view someone's else video tutorials. Bye 👎🏼and dislike
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