I graduated as profesional photographer 5 years ago, and unfortunately the camera my father gave me for my graduation a D7100 got it stolen at one of my first commissions. Just two weeks ago after all this time I bought a Nikon D600. I feel like a complete person again. I tried to use my iPhone pro max as camera all this years but having a real camera back in my hands makes me feel alive again.
I bought a second hand D600 about a month ago now, for around 330 EUR, including 1 year warranty. I love the camera. No shutter oil issues here. The camera is a joy to work with and the results are, for a camera of over 12 years old, still stunning. It's a serious upgrade compared to the D70 I had before. The D600 renewed my love for photography that had been slumbering for a few years unfortunately.
@@Mr50mmish It absolutely is. I could recover some lenses I still had lying around from my old F80 (which I also used at my D70) which made it a no brainer to invest in, compared to a new mirrorless fullframe option. I hope this one can serve me for another decade. ;-)
I bought a new D600 when they first came out. It had the oil spots and I sent it to Nikon for cleaning but the oily goo came back after a short while. By the time I sent it back for a second time the D610 was out so Nikon sent me a new 610 and that solved all my issues. It has worked flawlessly ever since. I have every Nikon I’ve ever bought since my first one a: D70. Sometimes I; “get out the old camera” and shoot it for a day or so for kicks. The D610 never fails to bring a smile to my face. The D6 is especially wonderful, as is, the D800e. I find the portraits of people are outstanding to this day. Thanks for the review.
It sucks to hear that your D600 was affected but I'm glad Nikon took care of it with the d610! Oh the D800e is very neat I do want to get one of those later to review. If I remember right it was their first one without an AA filter right? The trendsetter!
I have an early D600 that did develop the oil spot issue and I sent it back for Nikon shutter replacement. I have put close to 100,000 frames through it since the service and all is good and it is still going strong. If buying used look inside the tripod screw socket on the bottom of the camera and if you see black Sharpie marker inside the screw socket then it has had the shutter replaced.
Well, great tip !!! I just bought a second hand D600 for a very good price, about 2 months ago and at around 8000 actuations. Looking now at the tripod screw socket and yes, the Sharpie mark is there, so shutter replaced and the 8000 actuations are probably on the new shutter. Great to know. BTW, no oil spot issues what so ever and all running great. Very happy !
I have the D610 and D700. I like the more modern features on the D610 but the colors are different on the D700. I think portraits are better with the D610 but flowers and landscapes look better on the D700. IMO. Thanks for the video!
Curious which colors you find to be most problematic? For example, I traded a D750 because I always disliked its blue and green tones and I spent way too much time adjusting those colors in post. With Fujifilm I don't even touch the HSL much. I'm interested potentially in a D700 or D610, so I'm curious about your experiences with each. Thank you in advance.
@@billb8262 I don't have a problem with colors. The D700 feels better in my hands and the file size is not too big. The D610 allows for tighter cropping. Both give excellent color rendition.
I had the D750 it being like the D600 an excellent camera but after dipping my toes into the world of mirrorless I decided after hearing about the D700 decided to purchase one. It may be an older camera but the colour produced from the D700 sensor is so good! I have a D810 as well but 99% of the time i use the D700. Excellent colour, small file sizes and so easy to edit the raw files.
You are very concise in your summation of this great camera. The top and back plate is magnesium alloy with the rest being mainly polycarbonate but tough as a squirrels 🐿️ nuts 🥜. The pictures from it are outstanding and make it one of the best cameras Nikon has ever made. I got my one in 2012 at launch with the kit 24 to 85 mm lens and battery grip and it fits like a glove. I am only a simple enthusiast photographer who just loves taking photographs , but have never experienced the oil spot problem touch wood. I can imagine that the D700 is an amazing piece of kit it has legendary status. In finishing I wish you big success with your channel Sir because it is of an understandable high standard level with none of the hype.
I picked up a D600 with all the cables, manuals, software, 2 remotes and the original carton for $283 USD. It had a 40050 shutter count and it appears to be well taken care of. I don’t see any issues with dust or oil and based on the shutter count, this would have been an issue a long time ago. So far, images are very very good.
Great video mate I own a d700 , and a d200 and d300 and they are all brilliant cameras which when they were new I couldn’t afford to own when new now they are much more affordable, after your review I might well look for a d600 being lighter to carry 😊👍🏻
I own a D610 and the only thing I am not fond of is it's lack of an exposure meter in the top LCD. I love the images it produces and will probably never sell it.
Thank you for your review. I’m not convinced that D600/D610 is a clear winner over D700. A couple of practical differences that make D600/D610 better: AutoISO implementation, Active D-Lighting now works with Contrast. But D700 feels like a different kind of beast. It has a dedicated AF-ON button, it has 1/8000s shutter speed it is a more solid body. I used D610 as my only camera for 8(?) years, and I have it along with a D700 with me now. To me, the best bargain on a full-frame Nikon is a D3/D3s. Now, these beasts are from a different league altogether. Totally agree with you on a D200. 👍
I have a D700 and I have a D3S. The truth is that although they say that the sensor is similar between both cameras, yes both have 12 MPX but they are worlds apart. The D700 generates soft and deep natural colors, achieves tones that I do not see in other cameras. Editing the D700 files is easy and the editing is minimal. As it is "soft" sometimes you have to barely touch the contrast and intensity if, for example, there is a very cloudy sky. On the other hand, the D3S generates files that even for my taste are quite warm, saturated and contrasted. RAW files already look edited when you first see them. I can simulate in editing making a D700 files like a D3S, but I can't do the opposite. Since the D700 is so special, I wonder whether to buy the D600 or have another D700 as a backup.
The D600 does have a prosumer body, which is from the D7000, simply. It also does have the D7000 (2010) DX 39-AF Point system, build into the FX D600/D610 bodies - hence therefore, the AF points are more crammed into the middle - after all, it's a 24 MP FX (35mm, or "fullframe") Sensor for sure - but handycap'ed lightly with the DX AF system - the 51 Point AF FX AF is faster, better than this. Albeit, i do enjoy shooting my D7000 with my 16-85 VR in particular, too. For my taste, 12 MP is way plenty, i don't shoot street ads, billboards, and i do rarely crop - for real. Therefore, even 6 MP DX via D70s/D40 (3000x2000 pixel) is sufficent, for at least DIN A3 prints here. With 12-16 MP, i've made 120x80cm on Canvas, for friends & family, a few ones during the years, and noone, nobody complained about resolution. The keypoint here is called viewing distance. No pixels visible, when planted onto the wall.
@@marcp.1752 Very interesting to read comments like yours, full of information. I made prints on paper of similar dimensions to the one you mention and I remember putting my nose to the print and couldn't find any pixel problems. Of course, this is not the way to look at a photograph, nor is it to enlarge the image to 300 percent on the monitor.
@@mistergiovanni7183 Just right. Into the end, it's all about the composition, and quality of light. Nobody does care, which gear one used for creating picture xyz. You don't ask the chef which brand of pots he used - because the food tastes so good. It's exactly the same. You can take great photos (image composition wise) with any camera, even with a 35mm disposable film camera and single Miniscus lens. Pixel peepers are not being photographers. Of course there are always people who have a >4-10k camera setup - I've also seen this into various forums, especially DPR. And then they simply use it to photograph cats or shoes, “peeping” F1.4 fixed focal lengths at 300-400% in the far corners to find all kind of optical flaws and defects. I don't watch images at 100, or even 200, or more percent, ever. I watch the whole picture. These are gearheads, not photographers. No offense intended. For myself, photography is a life time hobby, and you get sometimes an image right, the way you've visualized it into your mind's eye - but only sometimes. I also like certain cameras more than others. But I use many brands, not “the One”. "The Best Camera Is The One That's With You" ~ Chase Jarvis
I have one that my old man got around 2013 knowing about and watching for the oil issue. Luckily it's never come up and the camera still works superbly. Just killer image quality and a wonderful viewfinder in a relatively compact camera.
I have 2, D600 bodies and they work out just fine. The trick to getting a good used one is to look for a shutter count between 5K and 10K. Any shutter / sensor problems would have manifested by then. The D700 does live up to the hype. If you want the D700 experience but a much lower price, try a D300 APSC camera. You can get one in great shape for $120 to $150. The D300 is the best deal for a used camera out there. I have 7 of them because you just can't get enough of a good thing.
I recently got a D300 on ebay UK £48 had about 69k on shutter and have been impressed with it , my 1st dslr was a d90 based on the d300 and I always wanted to try the original rather than the scaled down copy , however my d600 still works fine and has never had any sensor problems in the 8 years I have owned it.
I had a D610 for years (9years) no complaints except the amateur viewfinder got to me. Exchanged the D610 for a D800 with the proper viewfinder. Great upgrade also in image quality
When I was starting out with photography, I bought a used D600 as my first full frame camera with a 50mm lens and thoroughly enjoyed it for many years. I was fortunate enough to not have been exposed to the oil issue and learned a lot about the aspects of photography as I was starting out as a beginner. Unfortunately adulting got in the way and sold it as I didn't have a lot of downtime to shoot around as much as I used to. The D600 is a great value camera for those who are getting into Full Frame or photography in general.
@@Mr50mmish I actually have the Nikon ZF with the 40mm F2 kit lens. The size is perfect for travel/street and love the retro dials. I miss having a camera with me so I got this set and loving it.
I bought one of these about 18months ago, on the offchance that the shutter had been replaced, and it was cheap. Plus, I wanted a way to use a drawerful of old Nikon glass from manual days, and most of the Nik DSLRs don't allow for that. This was the cheapest way of doing it. So far, I'm quite happy with it. The 24Mp is more than enough for my needs and I don't see me rushing out to buy anything larger any time soon.
I see two differences. The CCD camera has an orange cast (or the CMOS has a blue cast) since those are the complementary colors, approximately. The other difference is due to the color depth of the new sensor. Imagine a camera that can show two shades of blue and a camera that can show two million shades of blue. When you use the two million shades of blue camera, you can smoothly transition from slightly blue clear to blue so deep it looks black and see no dividing lines. With the two color rendering camera, you will see the light shade of blue and then the dark shade of blue with a sharp dividing line. Of course it is not as extreme in the real world case. On DXOMARK, the Portrait score is color depth. For the D600 the score is 25.1 and for the D200 it is 22.3 (photons to photos gives the exact same measures), and these numbers represent the number of bits in color rendition that are discernable. In the bokeh, the colors are very similar in many places, so you are seeing banding due to three fewer bits of color depth.
I just bought a minty, boxed D610. Seems pretty good so far. I think it is on a par with the canon 6D mk1 (which I thought was a really excellent and very usable camera.) Both are bargains I reckon. I don’t currently have a D700, but I have a D3S, D3X, & D200 (& I love them.)
I bought a D600 when they first came out and still have it. I think it is a very good camera. Mine did have the oil spots, but I cleaned the sensor and the spots did not return. In reality, there were only a couple of very small spots, but they could be seen when stopped down. Awesome camera!
Yeah it's kind of odd. I can get the logic. The D500 is the actual successor to the D300s many many years later. They probably skipped the D400 numbering for luck reasons. 4 being not a lucky number in many Asian culture. D600 is slotted below the d700 series because it had a more simplified control scheme and a worse AF module. Haha overall an odd naming scheme but workable.
Can you please make a video comparing the aps-c and fullframe cameras in the budget range? I want to see what a normal non hyperactive youtuber would say.
Haha. That is actually a video idea I had, not sure when I'll get to it as there are a few scripts in the works but it is an idea! Especially now that I have a kind of reasonable bank of cameras haha.
Not only is the D600 one of Nikon's best used DSLR camera values, it's one of Nikon's best overall camera's period. Great image quality, dynamic range, size/weight, plus dual card slots. I do agree the AF system is nothing special, but still adequate. I have both the 6D and D600 and I think the D600 is the superior camera overall by a wide margin. I also have the sensor oil issue on mine, while annoying, I was able to solve the problem by getting a HQ sensor cleaning kit that wiped all of the oil speckles away. Just use this issue to your advantage and save some $$$.
@@Mr50mmish Cleaned it once after I got it (used copy) thoroughly and haven't needed to since. The oil spots are slowly coming back, but I haven't felt the need to clean it again after several thousand photos. These oil spots differ from sensor dust accumulation in several ways. 1 - They're pretty small spots, much smaller than dust spots, and only appear in the upper corner of the frame. 2 - Since they're so small, you can really only see them when you're shooting something stopped down closer to f/8 on a bright clear background (like a clear sky). If you shoot wide open or less than f/4, they're not visible at all.
I had a new D600 but it suffered badly from the oil on the sensor problem. Here in the UK we did not get the offer to exchange for a new D610 like in the US. Nikon Europe replaced the shutter with the one designed for the D610 free of charge. The camera was fine after that but I sold it and bought a D810 which is a superb camera.
@@Mr50mmish Yes I use the D810 and a D500 as my main cameras. I recently also bought an as new D850 which is to my mind the best DSLR EVER! I will never part with the D500 as it together with the Canon EOS 7D mk2 are the perfect wildlife cameras. The extra reach with the crop sensor cameras when using long lenses is so useful.
The D500 seems like a very competent APS-C camera. Since it's the successor to the D300 ergonomics looked excellent. The sensor on it looks like it's quite nice and it's video capabilities is very good although it can only record 4k using a 1.5x crop from it's already cropped sensor so there is that to consider. I haven't used one before so I can't directly comment. But it looks nice.
@17:10 I am not sure I would call it 'hype' (as it does it for real); I have both a 750 and a 700 and I mostly use the older cam - the 750's images are essentially boring. Nothing wrong with them. They clean up good. But it lacks a soul somehow, and the jpeg modes you can install in the 700 from NikonPC do not color or tone the same way in the 750 - I would agree the 700 has slower AF, but I would not say the 750 is fast enough - a lot of the time it lags annoyingly. I use Sonys for real speed - but again, they have no soul either! That's why we need lots of cams of course. The D600 is only a little cheaper than the 750 and about the same as the 700 (2-300 dollars) If I did not have my Sonys, or my Nikons and had to start from scratch again right now, I would probably buy a D4 or maybe a D500 - you might note I did not select a mirrorless; they're good and capable and all that, but man are they boring. Feelingless. lol
Haha that's fair there is a lot of chatter about the D700 color tuning. One day I'll be reviewing it. I admit when it comes to modern mirrorless I do pick them up less for fun, with the exception of the medium format stuff. Haha almost always have my gfx50 with me if I'm not carrying an older DSLR.
@@Mr50mmish Ah yes, I have a journo friend with one of those Fujis - wonderful b/w images As to the jpegs on the D700, I quite like the colors from the 5D2 formula on the aforementioned site - then one can adjust WB to taste for skin tone
Likely the D610 or D600 (they are the same module but the D610 has some minor updates to the camera overall). The 5D2 system is really basic, even for the time it was launched. It's a 9 point with 6 assist points and only the centre is a cross type with remaining points being single line type.
@@Mr50mmish ah i see. i keep debating my self for days for which one i should buy for wedding hahah because this is my 1st exp as 2nd shooter. i learned photography using 450D, so im used to with ancient autofocus points. but reviewers keep saying about the contrast detecting autofocus in d600 is no good in low light, so im worry hahaha. those 2 prices almost similar in here, but 5d mk2 only has 1 card, but if d600/d610 has better autofocus, i probably will be buying d600. thx you for your reply sir.
@@wingofwinter888 No problem! The D600 might be not as good compared to contemporary cameras but it is leaps better than the 5d2! Hopefully the wedding shoot goes well! Goodluck!
Don't listen to people who tell you the focus system of the 5dii is junk. Yes, the outer points are not good, but man, that center point is very very good. In low light is where the difference will depend on which lens you attach. So the question you should be asking yourself is, what glass am I going to get with my budget. That D600 will struggle in low light when not using the AF assist lamp & using glass that is not top notch.
@@alwynsmit3546 im planning to go with 50mm f1.8 and 35mm f2. yeah the autofocus in low light got me worry too hahaha i can do focus and recompose, learning with my old 450D, i can manual focus too because the kit has broken autofocus so for years im in manual. my daily camera is nx300 with kit lens and em5 mk2 with kit lens hahaha i know the limit of their autofocus. this is why im concern about the autofocus of 5d mkii and d600 because i never shot with full frame before. im leaning a bit to d600 because it has dual memory card slot.
I disagree with the AF being a BIG step up from the D90. I owned a D90 & a D7000. The D7000 is the same AF module as the D600, just adjusted for FX. With my D90 I rarely struggled with focus. When I got the D7000, I valued the 39 points up from the 11 in the D90. But that's where the awesomeness ended. In low light especially, the D7000 struggled & even shooting a subject in shade, would prove difficult for the D7000. People often think the number of focus points matter most, but that's not the case here. If Nikon did better with the AF, the D7000 would have gone down in history as the best APS-C body ever & the D600 would have been even nearer to perfect.
Odd. Is it possible there was something funky with your D7000? It's not just number of points that's up, the number of cross type points and their distribution make it pretty useful compared to AF modules that only have the 1 centre cross type. Now I do admit I don't tend to massively tax the AF modules when I shot as it's a lot of fairly static objects and I'm not shooting sports lately. So I'm probably not the best example of a AF stress tester. That said when using the D200 (same AF module as the D90) I don't have a problem with that either, but I haven't directly compared AF performance. The only difference is that I am more comfortable using the D600's cross type sensors around the module. That said maybe I should have a better look at MultiCam1000!
@@Mr50mmish I had three different bodies. Yes, THREE. As you said yourself, you're not the best example of AF stress testing it. Now, I'm not saying it is totally unusable. What I am saying is, it was unreliable in low light without the AF assist lamp & even then, it wasn't perfect. It had a beautiful sensor & so does the D600, but Nikon really messed up with that AF system. Heck, they even put that in the DF. Also a beautiful sensor. I'm just not a fan of that AF module.
I would say it is. The 24MP sensor is still very competitive with current sensors especially in scenarios where your doing controlled lighting and the body's AF system is great on static well lit subjects. The only thing that might be a concern is if 24mp isn't enough. I generally would think your good unless the images are going to be reproduced at a very large scale while simultaneously meant to be viewed pretty close.
@@Mr50mmish thank you, what’s the best setting for something like this with light box lighting on a concrete floor. I did try but maybe the lens is what makes it looks off
@@solomonuptonjubber8059 you might need to be more specific there. But I'd probably want to stop down for good depth, some generally even lighting to start off then another less diffuse light to add in some depth. Product photog is all about the lighting, or mostly about that anyways. At any rate I'm probably not the best person to ask for this type of shooting haha. I haven't done that in maybe 12 years and I wasnt that good at it haha.
Yeah I've had a few comments that it's the weak spot on the camera, although I haven't personally had an issue with it, it's AF module was pretty disliked.
@@Mr50mmish it works good till you try to do a church service or a dim lit dance . And we are not saying dark just dim light the d300s and d750 are much better in those situations. But in good light it's great
I had the D600 and the D750, great cameras, but man I CANNOT STAND camera bodies that only offer 1/4000th sec shutter speed, it renders my 1.2 and 1.4 lenses somewhat useless outdoors
I bought the Nikon D600 when it first came out… Totally disappointed not just with the camera, but with Nikon the company!!!! Basically I will never buy a camera whenever it first hits the market, it better to wait 3-5 years.
Dang, that is a strong bad reaction, did the one you recieved end up with the sensor dust/oil accumulation issue? I don't know if a wait that long is needed but it is a good idea to wait till the dust settles on a new model.
"...but now it costs less than the D700!" Sorry dude, this is pure click bait B$. The D600 & D610 is always being more expensive, than the D700. And not being as robust as that. The D610 from 2012 always had an issue with the oily shutter mechanism, therefore it was 2013 fastly being replaced by the D610.
Is it though? Average prices for the D700 have consistently been higher than the D600/D610 as of drafting this video from what I can see both on eBay and at retail locations. Yes I did mention the shutter and it's replacement the D610. But even so I. Theory the D610/D600 is a lower their camera but both systems had the same rated shutter life and technically they are weather sealed to a similar level the main difference is the control layout on the D600 is considered less pro and the shutter itself isn't as fast 1/4000 vs 1/8000. But here's an example you can find of the prices at retail stores. www.henrys.com/used-nikon-d700-dslr-body/5637221162.p?srsltid=AfmBOorIzOsHYvAF05Xu5bxDNqIoKo7lbEvQgiam8p0GiB72jXFQZMSD&color=Black&size=NIKON+F&style=7 www.henrys.com/used-nikon-d600-dslr-body/5637221716.p?srsltid=AfmBOoqO-eScREezPGqwtfkq0dgQWQkRGtUA886Cu3NnVKhUYN3tDrUL&color=Black&size=NIKON+F&style=8 The D700 priced higher. If you look at KEH they also price similar condition D600s lower than. D700s. Additionally even if you consider launch prices D600 was also lower than D700, 2100 vs 3000.
I graduated as profesional photographer 5 years ago, and unfortunately the camera my father gave me for my graduation a D7100 got it stolen at one of my first commissions. Just two weeks ago after all this time I bought a Nikon D600. I feel like a complete person again. I tried to use my iPhone pro max as camera all this years but having a real camera back in my hands makes me feel alive again.
That's awful that your grad gift was stolen! Hopefully your enjoying the D600!
I bought a second hand D600 about a month ago now, for around 330 EUR, including 1 year warranty. I love the camera. No shutter oil issues here. The camera is a joy to work with and the results are, for a camera of over 12 years old, still stunning. It's a serious upgrade compared to the D70 I had before. The D600 renewed my love for photography that had been slumbering for a few years unfortunately.
Thats very excellent to hear! I'm glad the camera helped wake up your love of photography! It really is an awesome camera to this day still.
@@Mr50mmish It absolutely is. I could recover some lenses I still had lying around from my old F80 (which I also used at my D70) which made it a no brainer to invest in, compared to a new mirrorless fullframe option. I hope this one can serve me for another decade. ;-)
I bought a new D600 when they first came out. It had the oil spots and I sent it to Nikon for cleaning but the oily goo came back after a short while. By the time I sent it back for a second time the D610 was out so Nikon sent me a new 610 and that solved all my issues. It has worked flawlessly ever since. I have every Nikon I’ve ever bought since my first one a: D70. Sometimes I; “get out the old camera” and shoot it for a day or so for kicks. The D610 never fails to bring a smile to my face. The D6 is especially wonderful, as is, the D800e. I find the portraits of people are outstanding to this day. Thanks for the review.
It sucks to hear that your D600 was affected but I'm glad Nikon took care of it with the d610! Oh the D800e is very neat I do want to get one of those later to review. If I remember right it was their first one without an AA filter right? The trendsetter!
I have an early D600 that did develop the oil spot issue and I sent it back for Nikon shutter replacement. I have put close to 100,000 frames through it since the service and all is good and it is still going strong. If buying used look inside the tripod screw socket on the bottom of the camera and if you see black Sharpie marker inside the screw socket then it has had the shutter replaced.
Oh nice! That's an awesome tip!
ah thx u for the tips
Well, great tip !!! I just bought a second hand D600 for a very good price, about 2 months ago and at around 8000 actuations. Looking now at the tripod screw socket and yes, the Sharpie mark is there, so shutter replaced and the 8000 actuations are probably on the new shutter. Great to know. BTW, no oil spot issues what so ever and all running great. Very happy !
@@COJANSTUDIO that's awesome to hear!
@@Mr50mmish well... I can confirm... your "tip" was perfectly right - Thanks !
I have the D610 and D700. I like the more modern features on the D610 but the colors are different on the D700. I think portraits are better with the D610 but flowers and landscapes look better on the D700. IMO. Thanks for the video!
Curious which colors you find to be most problematic? For example, I traded a D750 because I always disliked its blue and green tones and I spent way too much time adjusting those colors in post. With Fujifilm I don't even touch the HSL much. I'm interested potentially in a D700 or D610, so I'm curious about your experiences with each. Thank you in advance.
@@billb8262 I don't have a problem with colors. The D700 feels better in my hands and the file size is not too big. The D610 allows for tighter cropping. Both give excellent color rendition.
@@rongrantga awesome. Thank you much!
I had the D750 it being like the D600 an excellent camera but after dipping my toes into the world of mirrorless I decided after hearing about the D700 decided to purchase one. It may be an older camera but the colour produced from the D700 sensor is so good! I have a D810 as well but 99% of the time i use the D700. Excellent colour, small file sizes and so easy to edit the raw files.
You are very concise in your summation of this great camera. The top and back plate is magnesium alloy with the rest being mainly polycarbonate but tough as a squirrels 🐿️ nuts 🥜. The pictures from it are outstanding and make it one of the best cameras Nikon has ever made. I got my one in 2012 at launch with the kit 24 to 85 mm lens and battery grip and it fits like a glove. I am only a simple enthusiast photographer who just loves taking photographs , but have never experienced the oil spot problem touch wood. I can imagine that the D700 is an amazing piece of kit it has legendary status. In finishing I wish you big success with your channel Sir because it is of an understandable high standard level with none of the hype.
I picked up a D600 with all the cables, manuals, software, 2 remotes and the original carton for $283 USD. It had a 40050 shutter count and it appears to be well taken care of. I don’t see any issues with dust or oil and based on the shutter count, this would have been an issue a long time ago. So far, images are very very good.
That's awesome! A great price! Hope you enjoy it!
Great video mate I own a d700 , and a d200 and d300 and they are all brilliant cameras which when they were new I couldn’t afford to own when new now they are much more affordable, after your review I might well look for a d600 being lighter to carry 😊👍🏻
Nice! Sounds like an excellent trio you got there. If you do get the d600 hopefully you will like it as much as I do!
I own a D610 and the only thing I am not fond of is it's lack of an exposure meter in the top LCD. I love the images it produces and will probably never sell it.
Thank you for your review. I’m not convinced that D600/D610 is a clear winner over D700. A couple of practical differences that make D600/D610 better: AutoISO implementation, Active D-Lighting now works with Contrast. But D700 feels like a different kind of beast. It has a dedicated AF-ON button, it has 1/8000s shutter speed it is a more solid body.
I used D610 as my only camera for 8(?) years, and I have it along with a D700 with me now.
To me, the best bargain on a full-frame Nikon is a D3/D3s. Now, these beasts are from a different league altogether.
Totally agree with you on a D200. 👍
Ah I do agree the d3/d3s are awesome bargains now a days and if I remember right the sensor the same or very similar to the d700.
I have a D700 and I have a D3S. The truth is that although they say that the sensor is similar between both cameras, yes both have 12 MPX but they are worlds apart. The D700 generates soft and deep natural colors, achieves tones that I do not see in other cameras. Editing the D700 files is easy and the editing is minimal. As it is "soft" sometimes you have to barely touch the contrast and intensity if, for example, there is a very cloudy sky. On the other hand, the D3S generates files that even for my taste are quite warm, saturated and contrasted. RAW files already look edited when you first see them. I can simulate in editing making a D700 files like a D3S, but I can't do the opposite. Since the D700 is so special, I wonder whether to buy the D600 or have another D700 as a backup.
The D600 does have a prosumer body, which is from the D7000, simply. It also does have the D7000 (2010) DX 39-AF Point system, build into the FX D600/D610 bodies - hence therefore, the AF points are more crammed into the middle - after all, it's a 24 MP FX (35mm, or "fullframe") Sensor for sure - but handycap'ed lightly with the DX AF system - the 51 Point AF FX AF is faster, better than this. Albeit, i do enjoy shooting my D7000 with my 16-85 VR in particular, too. For my taste, 12 MP is way plenty, i don't shoot street ads, billboards, and i do rarely crop - for real. Therefore, even 6 MP DX via D70s/D40 (3000x2000 pixel) is sufficent, for at least DIN A3 prints here. With 12-16 MP, i've made 120x80cm on Canvas, for friends & family, a few ones during the years, and noone, nobody complained about resolution. The keypoint here is called viewing distance. No pixels visible, when planted onto the wall.
@@marcp.1752 Very interesting to read comments like yours, full of information. I made prints on paper of similar dimensions to the one you mention and I remember putting my nose to the print and couldn't find any pixel problems. Of course, this is not the way to look at a photograph, nor is it to enlarge the image to 300 percent on the monitor.
@@mistergiovanni7183 Just right. Into the end, it's all about the composition, and quality of light. Nobody does care, which gear one used for creating picture xyz.
You don't ask the chef which brand of pots he used - because the food tastes so good. It's exactly the same. You can take great photos (image composition wise) with any camera, even with a 35mm disposable film camera and single Miniscus lens.
Pixel peepers are not being photographers. Of course there are always people who have a >4-10k camera setup - I've also seen this into various forums, especially DPR. And then they simply use it to photograph cats or shoes, “peeping” F1.4 fixed focal lengths at 300-400% in the far corners to find all kind of optical flaws and defects.
I don't watch images at 100, or even 200, or more percent, ever. I watch the whole picture. These are gearheads, not photographers. No offense intended. For myself, photography is a life time hobby, and you get sometimes an image right, the way you've visualized it into your mind's eye - but only sometimes.
I also like certain cameras more than others. But I use many brands, not “the One”.
"The Best Camera Is The One That's With You" ~ Chase Jarvis
Hi, I got 2 of the D600. Awesome pictures made with these cameras.
They are excellent cameras!
I have one that my old man got around 2013 knowing about and watching for the oil issue. Luckily it's never come up and the camera still works superbly. Just killer image quality and a wonderful viewfinder in a relatively compact camera.
I have 2, D600 bodies and they work out just fine. The trick to getting a good used one is to look for a shutter count between 5K and 10K. Any shutter / sensor problems would have manifested by then. The D700 does live up to the hype. If you want the D700 experience but a much lower price, try a D300 APSC camera. You can get one in great shape for $120 to $150. The D300 is the best deal for a used camera out there. I have 7 of them because you just can't get enough of a good thing.
Love my D300 =)
Nice. Yeah I am sure one of these days I'll pick a d700 up!
I recently got a D300 on ebay UK £48 had about 69k on shutter and have been impressed with it , my 1st dslr was a d90 based on the d300 and I always wanted to try the original rather than the scaled down copy , however my d600 still works fine and has never had any sensor problems in the 8 years I have owned it.
I had a D610 for years (9years) no complaints except the amateur viewfinder got to me. Exchanged the D610 for a D800 with the proper viewfinder. Great upgrade also in image quality
When I was starting out with photography, I bought a used D600 as my first full frame camera with a 50mm lens and thoroughly enjoyed it for many years. I was fortunate enough to not have been exposed to the oil issue and learned a lot about the aspects of photography as I was starting out as a beginner. Unfortunately adulting got in the way and sold it as I didn't have a lot of downtime to shoot around as much as I used to. The D600 is a great value camera for those who are getting into Full Frame or photography in general.
Ah that's pretty good that you didn't get the oil issue. Think you'll hope back into photography at some point though?
@@Mr50mmish I actually have the Nikon ZF with the 40mm F2 kit lens. The size is perfect for travel/street and love the retro dials. I miss having a camera with me so I got this set and loving it.
@@davidgaritta9195 that's awesome! Haha I thought you had bowed out of it. I know for a while in my life I did have an extended hiatus from the hobby!
I bought one of these about 18months ago, on the offchance that the shutter had been replaced, and it was cheap. Plus, I wanted a way to use a drawerful of old Nikon glass from manual days, and most of the Nik DSLRs don't allow for that. This was the cheapest way of doing it.
So far, I'm quite happy with it. The 24Mp is more than enough for my needs and I don't see me rushing out to buy anything larger any time soon.
Awesome to hear the D600 worked out for ya! Yeah the D600 is an excellent way to us Nikon manual glass!
I see two differences. The CCD camera has an orange cast (or the CMOS has a blue cast) since those are the complementary colors, approximately. The other difference is due to the color depth of the new sensor. Imagine a camera that can show two shades of blue and a camera that can show two million shades of blue. When you use the two million shades of blue camera, you can smoothly transition from slightly blue clear to blue so deep it looks black and see no dividing lines. With the two color rendering camera, you will see the light shade of blue and then the dark shade of blue with a sharp dividing line. Of course it is not as extreme in the real world case. On DXOMARK, the Portrait score is color depth. For the D600 the score is 25.1 and for the D200 it is 22.3 (photons to photos gives the exact same measures), and these numbers represent the number of bits in color rendition that are discernable. In the bokeh, the colors are very similar in many places, so you are seeing banding due to three fewer bits of color depth.
I just bought a minty, boxed D610. Seems pretty good so far. I think it is on a par with the canon 6D mk1 (which I thought was a really excellent and very usable camera.) Both are bargains I reckon. I don’t currently have a D700, but I have a D3S, D3X, & D200 (& I love them.)
Good show,very helpful and informative,thanks
I'm happy with the D610
That's good to hear!
I bought a D600 when they first came out and still have it. I think it is a very good camera. Mine did have the oil spots, but I cleaned the sensor and the spots did not return. In reality, there were only a couple of very small spots, but they could be seen when stopped down. Awesome camera!
It's good to hear that the issue isn't actually too bad!
So D500 was APS-C and this is full frame... What's with Nikon and naming conventions?
Yeah it's kind of odd. I can get the logic. The D500 is the actual successor to the D300s many many years later. They probably skipped the D400 numbering for luck reasons. 4 being not a lucky number in many Asian culture. D600 is slotted below the d700 series because it had a more simplified control scheme and a worse AF module. Haha overall an odd naming scheme but workable.
Can you please make a video comparing the aps-c and fullframe cameras in the budget range? I want to see what a normal non hyperactive youtuber would say.
Haha. That is actually a video idea I had, not sure when I'll get to it as there are a few scripts in the works but it is an idea! Especially now that I have a kind of reasonable bank of cameras haha.
@@Mr50mmish Thanks. Your yt channel is refreshing, keep it up!
Not only is the D600 one of Nikon's best used DSLR camera values, it's one of Nikon's best overall camera's period. Great image quality, dynamic range, size/weight, plus dual card slots. I do agree the AF system is nothing special, but still adequate. I have both the 6D and D600 and I think the D600 is the superior camera overall by a wide margin. I also have the sensor oil issue on mine, while annoying, I was able to solve the problem by getting a HQ sensor cleaning kit that wiped all of the oil speckles away. Just use this issue to your advantage and save some $$$.
Agreed. It's an awesome camera. That sucks, the sensor oil on yours how often do you tend to have to clean it?
@@Mr50mmish Cleaned it once after I got it (used copy) thoroughly and haven't needed to since. The oil spots are slowly coming back, but I haven't felt the need to clean it again after several thousand photos. These oil spots differ from sensor dust accumulation in several ways. 1 - They're pretty small spots, much smaller than dust spots, and only appear in the upper corner of the frame. 2 - Since they're so small, you can really only see them when you're shooting something stopped down closer to f/8 on a bright clear background (like a clear sky). If you shoot wide open or less than f/4, they're not visible at all.
@@craigmckernan4056 ah, cool, that's good to know that it's not a huge deal if it does show up! Thanks!
fixed D610 FTW, I would dispute "D700 hype" wording.
I had a new D600 but it suffered badly from the oil on the sensor problem. Here in the UK we did not get the offer to exchange for a new D610 like in the US. Nikon Europe replaced the shutter with the one designed for the D610 free of charge. The camera was fine after that but I sold it and bought a D810 which is a superb camera.
Ah, well it does seem like the d610's only real update from the d600 was the shutter so, of call that a ghost d610! Do you still shoot the d800?
@@Mr50mmish Yes I use the D810 and a D500 as my main cameras. I recently also bought an as new D850 which is to my mind the best DSLR EVER! I will never part with the D500 as it together with the Canon EOS 7D mk2 are the perfect wildlife cameras. The extra reach with the crop sensor cameras when using long lenses is so useful.
How about the D500? I plan to swap it with a Sony RX100 VII.
The D500 seems like a very competent APS-C camera. Since it's the successor to the D300 ergonomics looked excellent. The sensor on it looks like it's quite nice and it's video capabilities is very good although it can only record 4k using a 1.5x crop from it's already cropped sensor so there is that to consider. I haven't used one before so I can't directly comment. But it looks nice.
@17:10 I am not sure I would call it 'hype' (as it does it for real); I have both a 750 and a 700 and I mostly use the older cam - the 750's images are essentially boring. Nothing wrong with them. They clean up good. But it lacks a soul somehow, and the jpeg modes you can install in the 700 from NikonPC do not color or tone the same way in the 750 - I would agree the 700 has slower AF, but I would not say the 750 is fast enough - a lot of the time it lags annoyingly. I use Sonys for real speed - but again, they have no soul either! That's why we need lots of cams of course.
The D600 is only a little cheaper than the 750 and about the same as the 700 (2-300 dollars)
If I did not have my Sonys, or my Nikons and had to start from scratch again right now, I would probably buy a D4 or maybe a D500 - you might note I did not select a mirrorless; they're good and capable and all that, but man are they boring. Feelingless. lol
Haha that's fair there is a lot of chatter about the D700 color tuning. One day I'll be reviewing it. I admit when it comes to modern mirrorless I do pick them up less for fun, with the exception of the medium format stuff. Haha almost always have my gfx50 with me if I'm not carrying an older DSLR.
@@Mr50mmish Ah yes, I have a journo friend with one of those Fujis - wonderful b/w images
As to the jpegs on the D700, I quite like the colors from the 5D2 formula on the aforementioned site - then one can adjust WB to taste for skin tone
which one better for autofocus d600, d610, and 5d mark ii?
its for shooting on wedding
Likely the D610 or D600 (they are the same module but the D610 has some minor updates to the camera overall). The 5D2 system is really basic, even for the time it was launched. It's a 9 point with 6 assist points and only the centre is a cross type with remaining points being single line type.
@@Mr50mmish ah i see. i keep debating my self for days for which one i should buy for wedding hahah because this is my 1st exp as 2nd shooter.
i learned photography using 450D, so im used to with ancient autofocus points.
but reviewers keep saying about the contrast detecting autofocus in d600 is no good in low light, so im worry hahaha.
those 2 prices almost similar in here, but 5d mk2 only has 1 card, but if d600/d610 has better autofocus, i probably will be buying d600.
thx you for your reply sir.
@@wingofwinter888 No problem! The D600 might be not as good compared to contemporary cameras but it is leaps better than the 5d2! Hopefully the wedding shoot goes well! Goodluck!
Don't listen to people who tell you the focus system of the 5dii is junk. Yes, the outer points are not good, but man, that center point is very very good. In low light is where the difference will depend on which lens you attach. So the question you should be asking yourself is, what glass am I going to get with my budget. That D600 will struggle in low light when not using the AF assist lamp & using glass that is not top notch.
@@alwynsmit3546 im planning to go with 50mm f1.8 and 35mm f2.
yeah the autofocus in low light got me worry too hahaha
i can do focus and recompose, learning with my old 450D, i can manual focus too because the kit has broken autofocus so for years im in manual.
my daily camera is nx300 with kit lens and em5 mk2 with kit lens hahaha i know the limit of their autofocus.
this is why im concern about the autofocus of 5d mkii and d600 because i never shot with full frame before.
im leaning a bit to d600 because it has dual memory card slot.
I disagree with the AF being a BIG step up from the D90. I owned a D90 & a D7000. The D7000 is the same AF module as the D600, just adjusted for FX. With my D90 I rarely struggled with focus. When I got the D7000, I valued the 39 points up from the 11 in the D90. But that's where the awesomeness ended. In low light especially, the D7000 struggled & even shooting a subject in shade, would prove difficult for the D7000. People often think the number of focus points matter most, but that's not the case here. If Nikon did better with the AF, the D7000 would have gone down in history as the best APS-C body ever & the D600 would have been even nearer to perfect.
Odd. Is it possible there was something funky with your D7000? It's not just number of points that's up, the number of cross type points and their distribution make it pretty useful compared to AF modules that only have the 1 centre cross type. Now I do admit I don't tend to massively tax the AF modules when I shot as it's a lot of fairly static objects and I'm not shooting sports lately. So I'm probably not the best example of a AF stress tester. That said when using the D200 (same AF module as the D90) I don't have a problem with that either, but I haven't directly compared AF performance. The only difference is that I am more comfortable using the D600's cross type sensors around the module. That said maybe I should have a better look at MultiCam1000!
@@Mr50mmish I had three different bodies. Yes, THREE. As you said yourself, you're not the best example of AF stress testing it. Now, I'm not saying it is totally unusable. What I am saying is, it was unreliable in low light without the AF assist lamp & even then, it wasn't perfect. It had a beautiful sensor & so does the D600, but Nikon really messed up with that AF system. Heck, they even put that in the DF. Also a beautiful sensor. I'm just not a fan of that AF module.
Is this camera any good for product photography ?
I would say it is. The 24MP sensor is still very competitive with current sensors especially in scenarios where your doing controlled lighting and the body's AF system is great on static well lit subjects. The only thing that might be a concern is if 24mp isn't enough. I generally would think your good unless the images are going to be reproduced at a very large scale while simultaneously meant to be viewed pretty close.
@@Mr50mmish thank you, what’s the best setting for something like this with light box lighting on a concrete floor. I did try but maybe the lens is what makes it looks off
@@solomonuptonjubber8059 you might need to be more specific there. But I'd probably want to stop down for good depth, some generally even lighting to start off then another less diffuse light to add in some depth.
Product photog is all about the lighting, or mostly about that anyways.
At any rate I'm probably not the best person to ask for this type of shooting haha. I haven't done that in maybe 12 years and I wasnt that good at it haha.
I been using a d610 for years if it had better low light auto focus it would be amazing low light autofocus is its downfall
Yeah I've had a few comments that it's the weak spot on the camera, although I haven't personally had an issue with it, it's AF module was pretty disliked.
@@Mr50mmish it works good till you try to do a church service or a dim lit dance . And we are not saying dark just dim light the d300s and d750 are much better in those situations. But in good light it's great
I had the D600 and the D750, great cameras, but man I CANNOT STAND camera bodies that only offer 1/4000th sec shutter speed, it renders my 1.2 and 1.4 lenses somewhat useless outdoors
That's fair. The top shutter speed is a bit limiting on the d600. Cost of making a budget FF camera I suppose.
I bought the Nikon D600 when it first came out… Totally disappointed not just with the camera, but with Nikon the company!!!!
Basically I will never buy a camera whenever it first hits the market, it better to wait 3-5 years.
Dang, that is a strong bad reaction, did the one you recieved end up with the sensor dust/oil accumulation issue? I don't know if a wait that long is needed but it is a good idea to wait till the dust settles on a new model.
"...but now it costs less than the D700!" Sorry dude, this is pure click bait B$. The D600 & D610 is always being more expensive, than the D700. And not being as robust as that. The D610 from 2012 always had an issue with the oily shutter mechanism, therefore it was 2013 fastly being replaced by the D610.
Is it though? Average prices for the D700 have consistently been higher than the D600/D610 as of drafting this video from what I can see both on eBay and at retail locations.
Yes I did mention the shutter and it's replacement the D610. But even so I. Theory the D610/D600 is a lower their camera but both systems had the same rated shutter life and technically they are weather sealed to a similar level the main difference is the control layout on the D600 is considered less pro and the shutter itself isn't as fast 1/4000 vs 1/8000.
But here's an example you can find of the prices at retail stores.
www.henrys.com/used-nikon-d700-dslr-body/5637221162.p?srsltid=AfmBOorIzOsHYvAF05Xu5bxDNqIoKo7lbEvQgiam8p0GiB72jXFQZMSD&color=Black&size=NIKON+F&style=7
www.henrys.com/used-nikon-d600-dslr-body/5637221716.p?srsltid=AfmBOoqO-eScREezPGqwtfkq0dgQWQkRGtUA886Cu3NnVKhUYN3tDrUL&color=Black&size=NIKON+F&style=8
The D700 priced higher.
If you look at KEH they also price similar condition D600s lower than. D700s.
Additionally even if you consider launch prices D600 was also lower than D700, 2100 vs 3000.
One camera I will never buy. Complete disaster.
Fair enough, its reputation is a bit tainted, but it leads to pretty good used prices!
@@Mr50mmish That is true but for the same money you can have a D700. For a bit more a D800. Those are still real professional camera's.
Constantlzy looking down at your script is not cool
Haha that is true, might be time to buy a teleprompter
Nothing wrong with looking at notes. What is wrong with you?