The buttons on the steering wheel were updated already on the 2023 model. They work a bit differently than before, and have a slightly different mold. I haven't managed to up the volume accidentally once while owning it. On an old 2022 model it happened on my first test-drive.
The issues with these cars like the Zeeker will be back up service and spare parts of these unknown brands.I keep my cars for around 10 years interesting to see if these new brands are still around and supplying back up service it's a huge unknown it's a risk are you a gambler?
Ford Ranger’s and Toyota Hilux’s with crappy four cylinder diesels, solid chassis and leaf springs are overpriced… This thing has the engineering and technology.
@@Secretlyanothername That's correct, it is an excuse now because the technology is coming down in price quickly, Chinese brands will just continue to undercut them with as good or sometimes better products.
I’m waiting for the AWD VZ version before I trade up my current fully optioned Cupra Born which is missing all the goodies that the Brits and European get. (Heads-up, built in GPS, phone app, sun roof and more) Despite missing all this I still love how my Born drives.
That’s a great looking car, but is there much of a support network in Australia? And seriously.. how much extra is it to put rear air vents in cars like this? Good review though.👍
Australian support is through VW since Cupra is part of the VW group. The Born shares the same bones as the VW ID 3. I drove past my local VW dealership the other day and noticed the Cupra signage was bigger than the VW signage.
The lack of rear air vents in a car this expensive is just asinine. Audi discontinued the Q2 which had the same problem, because unsurprisingly barely anyone bought Q2s due to missing such basic features…
Rented the base Cupra Born in Melbourne and it is a joy to drive. Love the handling and speed, practicality and technology. But the interior is cheap and god those capacitive buttons on the steering wheel were a big pain in the ass. They could have replaced them in this revision but they chose not to, even though people were complaining about it when VW first started that steering wheel.
Interior is absolutely not up to scratch for how much it's going to be. Had some time with the new similar sized Zeekr X which is about 15 grand less and the interior is in another league.
They’re joking if they think they can compete in the current small car EV market with prices like that for features like that. New small car EVs should be 40k max. The market needs a wake up call to make these wonderful drivers more available. And yeah like, for 30something k you can expect 400km+ range, comfort interior, rear fans, strong tech.
But there's a $15,000USD ID3 with LiFePO4 cells in China, why couldn't any of us get in on that action? VW cannot afford to becoming a premium brand, Skoda and SEAT had developed the same market trend
Drum brakes are coming back! Most EV’s have strong and effective regenerative breaking. Drum brakes only drawback compared to discs is they can’t keep braking if well too much heat builds up. Not an issue with regenerative braking as well. Drums also stop break dust emissions into the environment.
My opinion on EVs is "I don't mind electric engines, but why do all EV manufacturers insist that 'let's just take a board an glue an ipad in the middle and make everything touch-sensitive' is an acceptable interior/ergonomy design?" - and so far the Cupra Born hasn't changed that. :P
I agree, but it's because it's way cheap. Developing switchgear for new models is a big cost. In EVs, batteries are still an enormous expense, so in order to be able to build these cars and still be able to sell them for something remotely approaching a rational price, they streamline as much of everything else as they can (make it transferable from model to model). The super luxury brands like Rolls Royce almost use their heavy, chrome switchgear as a sign of the opulence of the vehicle these days.
@Bman1878 yeah, I know they do it for budget reasons and it makes a lot of sense in the cheap economy EVs, but something like Cupra Born or the more expensive Teslas could be slightly more expensive to get normal controls and it wouldn't make a big % difference in final price. I feel like reason they do it is not only price, but also they just think it will look more "modern and futuristic" - after all, Cupra does the same bullshit in their ICE cars (which is the main reason why I didn't buy a Leon last year and instead went for a Mazda 3) The Xiaomi car has a big touchscreen but it also has an optional accessory that connects to the screen and adds physical buttons and knobs - so maybe that's the best way to go for other manufacturers as well - keep the cost down, keep the minimalistic look, but allow buttons for those who want/need them.
So Cupra are spending lots of $$$ having aussie peeps review stuff in Catalonia...be nice if the interior trim wasn't falling off when the bonnet was initially opened.
As a car community can we please stop calling what this car has as a ‘defuser’. It’s just cosmetic and has no function to defuse. Just call it the back bumper cosmetic treatment… please! As a car person, I am offended whenever reviewers do this. Please educate yourself on what a defuser is
Note that this video was put out a couple of days too early. The existing 2024 non-VZ Born has just dropped down to AUD $47k driveaway for the base model. So add maybe $10k to $15k for the VZ perhaps?
@@SandViper94Gaming The supposed purpose of an electric car, the supposed reason governments have been trying to hard to push people into buying them, is to reduce emissions. That is completely negated if manufacturers keep offering us heavy, inefficient, low range, impractical vehicles that don't work as _replacements_ for ICE vehicles but only as additions to our (ICE) real car. This is a toy for accelerating surprisingly fast, surprising that is to the 9 people who don't already know that EVs accelerate fast - and that's all. This car might almost be viable here in NZ (if there weren't better similar cars for half the price) with shorter distances and a lower carbon electricity supply. There is Australia with huge distances and some of the world's dirtiest electricity the only thing it is good for is seeing the look on Nik's face (once) when you burn him in his lowered Golf off at the lights.
@@theosphilusthistler712 I drive an ioniq6 rwd in australia which i got for 60k. Drove melbourne to brisbane and back with 0 issues, charged a handful of times each way. Silent, comfortable, fast enough and just so so convenient. Don't know what you're yapping about because there are longer range cars available? No person in history can do 5 hours of driving without having to stop at least once, so just plan ahead and stop where you can charge, have a bite to eat etc. By the time you are done the car is ready for another 4 hours, in most cases in fact the car was ready before us. ICE cars have their place for towing and camping/offroad and I still miss the exhaust sound of my old I30N and Megane Rs but the ease of use of an EV along with the comfort just destroys any argument for an ICE car in literally 95% of use cases. So many people are parroting media fed news and literally all of it is incorrect but people are so close minded for god knows what reason. Maybe they are afraid of the EV taking away all their ICE cars? Simply won't happen for many more decades. This war between the two is very cringe, why can't we like what we like? In most cases EV owners like both even
If you care about brands then you care about the history of said brand and other brands. SEAT certainly has a colourful history, being instrumental for pre80s fascist Spain using FIAT tooling, when it was bought up by VW they had a few decent variants of VW models especially the Leon. In recent years they were the budget brand and the almost-duplicate of Skoda but with SEAT always having a taste for flare Now there's a CUPRA sports brand and like VW and Skoda there's almost no existence of affordable models left. For example the smallest SEAT Mii, Skoda Citigo and VW UP! GTI. They even had an electric version updated to 36kWh before unwisely discontinued shortly after.
@@r_dogger09that's why they tart them up so bad as a consequence of market failure because it's a "perceived" added quality value in comparison to other competitors trying to squeeze every ounce of profit while maintaining the narrative that small or cheap cars are no longer affordable to build, and we ask ourselves where inflation comes from...🤦♂️ There's a $15000USD ID3 with LiFePO4 cells in China, isn't that not good value for money??
Nah. Not good enough. The Volkswagen Group still has no clue when it comes to EVs. Too expensive, sub-par range, sub-par performance, sub-par interior quality, sub-par battery technology, janky infotainment and those stupid capacitive-touch buttons. Whatever the cheapest BYD Seal costss, this would have to come in _significantly underneath_ it to make _any_ sort of sense.
Byd seal is a bad car. Cheaply made, full of problems and what's worst, it's apparently the most dangerous car to drive of all the cars tested since 2015. According to nordic tests. It also failed the moose test spectacularly.
It is difficult to comprehend how they still haven't replaced these touch sensitive buttons on the steering wheel.
just watched a ID.7 review and like what are they thinking, had years to change it and yet still those bloody buttons which no one likes !!
The buttons on the steering wheel were updated already on the 2023 model. They work a bit differently than before, and have a slightly different mold. I haven't managed to up the volume accidentally once while owning it. On an old 2022 model it happened on my first test-drive.
I like Cupra styling. Wouldn't touch anything from Volkswagen AG anymore but still looks cool.
Cupra Born is now listed for under $50k driveaway on their website, I wonder if it’s to make room for this VZ model.
and also to make it competitive.
Looks nice, seems expensive though if north of 50K
Closer to $70k
Nice looking car but fot around $70,000 way over priced
240 kw/5xx nm for 70k puts it square against the Golf R, GR Corolla and Civic Type R which is about right.
@paulklp8262 they are currently selling the standard model for under 50 grand which I think would be better value for money.
@@tonytomassoni1973 I guess also the Volvo EX30 Twin / Zeekr X is now an option at this range.
The issues with these cars like the Zeeker will be back up service and spare parts of these unknown brands.I keep my cars for around 10 years interesting to see if these new brands are still around and supplying back up service it's a huge unknown it's a risk are you a gambler?
Ford Ranger’s and Toyota Hilux’s with crappy four cylinder diesels, solid chassis and leaf springs are overpriced… This thing has the engineering and technology.
70k, near rear vents and hard plastics on contact points, all manufacturers need to just add these in because every car tester mentions these things.
Or they could just go back to charging $40k and stop using EVs as an excuse to almost double the price
@@Secretlyanothername That's correct, it is an excuse now because the technology is coming down in price quickly, Chinese brands will just continue to undercut them with as good or sometimes better products.
The interior is actually quite good. ive
I’m waiting for the AWD VZ version before I trade up my current fully optioned Cupra Born which is missing all the goodies that the Brits and European get. (Heads-up, built in GPS, phone app, sun roof and more) Despite missing all this I still love how my Born drives.
That’s a great looking car, but is there much of a support network in Australia? And seriously.. how much extra is it to put rear air vents in cars like this? Good review though.👍
Australian support is through VW since Cupra is part of the VW group. The Born shares the same bones as the VW ID 3. I drove past my local VW dealership the other day and noticed the Cupra signage was bigger than the VW signage.
The lack of rear air vents in a car this expensive is just asinine. Audi discontinued the Q2 which had the same problem, because unsurprisingly barely anyone bought Q2s due to missing such basic features…
I love this car ! Beautiful and huge ! ❤️❤️❤️
Not really a direct comparison, but a second hand Kia Stinger is now 25K…
3:30 funny way to ask me out, but ok!
Rented the base Cupra Born in Melbourne and it is a joy to drive. Love the handling and speed, practicality and technology. But the interior is cheap and god those capacitive buttons on the steering wheel were a big pain in the ass. They could have replaced them in this revision but they chose not to, even though people were complaining about it when VW first started that steering wheel.
The buttons on the steering wheel were updated already on the 2023 model. No problems now.
Interior is absolutely not up to scratch for how much it's going to be.
Had some time with the new similar sized Zeekr X which is about 15 grand less and the interior is in another league.
The European cars can simply only be better if they were built in China so it seems...
@@toyotaprius79100%
Zeekr is way, way worse to drive than a born.
Most underrated EV on the market , drives like a dream !
They’re joking if they think they can compete in the current small car EV market with prices like that for features like that. New small car EVs should be 40k max. The market needs a wake up call to make these wonderful drivers more available. And yeah like, for 30something k you can expect 400km+ range, comfort interior, rear fans, strong tech.
Same problem as all VAG electric product. 30% discount needed to make it value for money.
But there's a $15,000USD ID3 with LiFePO4 cells in China, why couldn't any of us get in on that action?
VW cannot afford to becoming a premium brand, Skoda and SEAT had developed the same market trend
You lost me at drum brakes at the rear... Nothing screams performance like 'drum brakes' 🤦🏻
Drum brakes are coming back! Most EV’s have strong and effective regenerative breaking. Drum brakes only drawback compared to discs is they can’t keep braking if well too much heat builds up. Not an issue with regenerative braking as well. Drums also stop break dust emissions into the environment.
You don't need brembos in every car let alone evs, i can count on 1 hand the number of times i pressed my brake pedal since I owned the I6
It's nice, but I wouldnt pay over 55K DA for that.
That interior is ass. 70k car and you get a couple of touch screens and shit material. Wow
My opinion on EVs is "I don't mind electric engines, but why do all EV manufacturers insist that 'let's just take a board an glue an ipad in the middle and make everything touch-sensitive' is an acceptable interior/ergonomy design?" - and so far the Cupra Born hasn't changed that. :P
I agree, but it's because it's way cheap. Developing switchgear for new models is a big cost. In EVs, batteries are still an enormous expense, so in order to be able to build these cars and still be able to sell them for something remotely approaching a rational price, they streamline as much of everything else as they can (make it transferable from model to model). The super luxury brands like Rolls Royce almost use their heavy, chrome switchgear as a sign of the opulence of the vehicle these days.
@Bman1878 yeah, I know they do it for budget reasons and it makes a lot of sense in the cheap economy EVs, but something like Cupra Born or the more expensive Teslas could be slightly more expensive to get normal controls and it wouldn't make a big % difference in final price. I feel like reason they do it is not only price, but also they just think it will look more "modern and futuristic" - after all, Cupra does the same bullshit in their ICE cars (which is the main reason why I didn't buy a Leon last year and instead went for a Mazda 3)
The Xiaomi car has a big touchscreen but it also has an optional accessory that connects to the screen and adds physical buttons and knobs - so maybe that's the best way to go for other manufacturers as well - keep the cost down, keep the minimalistic look, but allow buttons for those who want/need them.
Too expensive if is $70k, need to be $10k less to sell.
So Cupra are spending lots of $$$ having aussie peeps review stuff in Catalonia...be nice if the interior trim wasn't falling off when the bonnet was initially opened.
It’s that Made in Germany quality.
BYD SEAL GT will be a better deal
More than $60k isn't pretty good value. That's a heck of a lot of money
What's with EVs and hub caps? A fashion from the 1980's that we thought was destined to the dustbin of history, should not be making a comeback 👠
Keep the EV reviews coming!
Die Ladeleistung beträgt 185 kWh
at that price just get a formentor
Always a deal breaker when you can't put anything in the bum.
Cupras are great value for what they offer but not the Born! Way too overpriced for what it is! Imo anyway cause it seems to be selling anyway
As a car community can we please stop calling what this car has as a ‘defuser’. It’s just cosmetic and has no function to defuse. Just call it the back bumper cosmetic treatment… please! As a car person, I am offended whenever reviewers do this. Please educate yourself on what a defuser is
*Diffuser
Dat is one ugly car for potentially that amount of $$. Jesus christ.
For $55k drive away, you can get a BYD Seal with 230kw, RWD and a bigger body. This car is way, way overpriced.
Note that this video was put out a couple of days too early. The existing 2024 non-VZ Born has just dropped down to AUD $47k driveaway for the base model. So add maybe $10k to $15k for the VZ perhaps?
Well that ACTUALLY fully confirmed my opinion on EVs; completely pointless waste of natural resources and money.
how
@@SandViper94Gaming How indeed can they expect people to keep buying EVs that negate the rationale for having EVs.
@@theosphilusthistler712 what are you talking about
@@SandViper94Gaming The supposed purpose of an electric car, the supposed reason governments have been trying to hard to push people into buying them, is to reduce emissions. That is completely negated if manufacturers keep offering us heavy, inefficient, low range, impractical vehicles that don't work as _replacements_ for ICE vehicles but only as additions to our (ICE) real car. This is a toy for accelerating surprisingly fast, surprising that is to the 9 people who don't already know that EVs accelerate fast - and that's all. This car might almost be viable here in NZ (if there weren't better similar cars for half the price) with shorter distances and a lower carbon electricity supply. There is Australia with huge distances and some of the world's dirtiest electricity the only thing it is good for is seeing the look on Nik's face (once) when you burn him in his lowered Golf off at the lights.
@@theosphilusthistler712 I drive an ioniq6 rwd in australia which i got for 60k. Drove melbourne to brisbane and back with 0 issues, charged a handful of times each way. Silent, comfortable, fast enough and just so so convenient. Don't know what you're yapping about because there are longer range cars available? No person in history can do 5 hours of driving without having to stop at least once, so just plan ahead and stop where you can charge, have a bite to eat etc. By the time you are done the car is ready for another 4 hours, in most cases in fact the car was ready before us.
ICE cars have their place for towing and camping/offroad and I still miss the exhaust sound of my old I30N and Megane Rs but the ease of use of an EV along with the comfort just destroys any argument for an ICE car in literally 95% of use cases.
So many people are parroting media fed news and literally all of it is incorrect but people are so close minded for god knows what reason. Maybe they are afraid of the EV taking away all their ICE cars? Simply won't happen for many more decades. This war between the two is very cringe, why can't we like what we like? In most cases EV owners like both even
lol 70k for this, what a joke
Does anyone care about this brand? Just a question.
I like them, but it's value for money is terrible.
If you care about brands then you care about the history of said brand and other brands. SEAT certainly has a colourful history, being instrumental for pre80s fascist Spain using FIAT tooling, when it was bought up by VW they had a few decent variants of VW models especially the Leon. In recent years they were the budget brand and the almost-duplicate of Skoda but with SEAT always having a taste for flare
Now there's a CUPRA sports brand and like VW and Skoda there's almost no existence of affordable models left. For example the smallest SEAT Mii, Skoda Citigo and VW UP! GTI. They even had an electric version updated to 36kWh before unwisely discontinued shortly after.
@@r_dogger09that's why they tart them up so bad as a consequence of market failure because it's a "perceived" added quality value in comparison to other competitors trying to squeeze every ounce of profit while maintaining the narrative that small or cheap cars are no longer affordable to build, and we ask ourselves where inflation comes from...🤦♂️
There's a $15000USD ID3 with LiFePO4 cells in China, isn't that not good value for money??
@@toyotaprius79 not really
@@r_dogger09Welp
I dare you to go to Indian review the Toyota Fortuner Legender and it has sequential indicators 🎊 🎉.
it doesnt look good at all
Nah. Not good enough. The Volkswagen Group still has no clue when it comes to EVs. Too expensive, sub-par range, sub-par performance, sub-par interior quality, sub-par battery technology, janky infotainment and those stupid capacitive-touch buttons. Whatever the cheapest BYD Seal costss, this would have to come in _significantly underneath_ it to make _any_ sort of sense.
Byd seal is a bad car. Cheaply made, full of problems and what's worst, it's apparently the most dangerous car to drive of all the cars tested since 2015. According to nordic tests. It also failed the moose test spectacularly.
@mogwaix666 none of that is true. It aced the moose test too. Don't know where you got your information, but it's bad
@@Bman1878 Just like Han before it, seal struggles with the moose test. Also, isn't a real 4wd.
@@mogwaix666 no. The Han struggled, the Seal didn't at all... do you work for Tesla or something?
hate the way the born looks