Two great thinkers. Leo Gura and Peter Ralston. I follow the work of both. It was some kind a surprise that the algoritms suggest me this interview. I think also it is usefull to introduce two concepts of Ken Wilber: Waking Up, yhe spiritual path to enlightment, and Growing Up, the path to mature ego and acquire knowledge. Thank you, great public service!
I've watched half of this video of Peter Ralston interview with Leo Gura, and it's been an eye-opening experience. The depth and profundity of their discussion have triggered a significant cognitive and emotional response in me. It's like layers of my previous understanding are being peeled away, revealing deeper truths and insights about consciousness and existence. This video is challenging my mental constructs and paradigms, leading to a profound sense of revelation and transformation. I'm feeling a mix of awe, excitement, and contemplation as I process these new perspectives.
I've noticed that too i currently have no technically accurate word to describe it but I've noticed the ripples just echoing, i feel Ralston has an interesting approach of verbally cutting through people's mental clutter
In the very beginning of this video Peter explains that "enlightenment is not about reaching for an answer, or arriving to a conclusion" (I add; or any "prefixed result"). And at 1:06:37 Peter is still trying to convey this to Leo...that still keeps making all sorts of questions...and expect answers. This is very basic and I would have loved a flowered blooming conversation between to enlightened guys. If you want to aim at anything; aim at detaching from everything, freeing your self, deconstructing the self, but still doing it in a conscious way in order to make yourself a meaningful life. There's really zero use to you to live an empty life where nothing matters; it is actually about finding the balance between detachment and falling in love with the immense opportunity you have here as a human being and appreciating everything and everyone. Americans can have huge problems with this work due to that a huge ego stands in your way. :)) Detach that and you are alright.
I've never watched a YT video before the second video came out, let alone immediately subscribed. These two are titanic heavyweights. As true as the ring of a bell.
@@XAnimazingX the distinctions of perceiving a thing “for me”, vs “for itself”, vs “as itself”. The 1st, “for me”, is relating to a thing solely through how it suits your survival needs. The 2nd, “for itself”, is the raw perception of a thing without any overlaying mentation such as calling it a name, or liking or disliking it, etc. This is a gigantic step towards truth, honesty, understanding. The 3rd is a direct experience that goes beyond experience as we conventionally understand it to be, and is more about “being” than perceiving.
Like 15-18 minutes… you’re there now. He really came to a good point there. i see it like We can kind of fall asleep not realizing that we are the whole of creation and in your ability to notice that you are actually everything and beyond everything you may gain vertigo and then with discipline maybe power and must learn to have have grace and not cruelty. You may choose to have cruelty at your own dismay. Much love everyone! ❤
As a matter of fact they have a lot of the same mannerisms. That's interesting that I'm not the only one that is noticing that. You are right this is some seriously deep deep deep shit I am just an amoeba when it comes to this stuff but I have such an open mind that I am a sponge
This guy is extremely advanced in what could be called “spiritual dynamics theory” or most simply philosophy. One of the most advanced teachers I’ve seen and I’ve seen a lot of them. Maybe that old saying “when the student is ready the teacher appears.” That always stuck with me.
What's enlightenment in a nutshell? You wake up to the fact that you are god. Pure consciousness beyond time and space. You created this physical realm to experience yourself through all things in existence.
Don’t be so certain. This perspective can be a slippery slope to delusions of grandeur. Not saying you’re wrong, but i feel like it should be tempered with the acknowledgement that all life ‘is god’ in the same way you, or I, are
@@somechrisguy I get the point you are trying to convey, but there is no need for grandeur in the perspective of the creator who cherishes everything he's created. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.
My truth shines through, I have no one left to prove. I am what I am. I am not a copy or a copy of a copy. I am one and just once. At my truest, I am not my name, face, taste, thoughts or place. Really at my truest, I am this moment. And so are you. And so is everyone else. Everyone is so uniquely unique, you just can't compare. I am my own category. I am the same in every room. I am the door, the window and the space that makes the room. Tiptoeing the edge of lines in between, I'm inside from the out and outside from the in. And as I am that I am, I ask for her grace. To give me a yes or a no. But Mother Nature is smart, she chooses between neither or both. She doesn't like parallels, platitudes templates or absolutes. Having nothing to lose, she breaks her own made-up rules. I read the greats, timeless, the self-mades. It lets me hope and permission to imitate. But the long starring wise men repeat the inevitability of this moment. I am that inexhaustible I AM. Truly, I am this moment. The horizontal NOW has no parallels, the vertical NOWs are infinite. I am nameless underneath. It is what it is not and it is not what it is. I predate all and then I precede it. Only bottom-up, never top-down. Contradictions produce consciousness. And faith is a bottomless ground,
Many of the things he says go around me like a satellite orbiting a planet (me). I am being influenced by them, I notice them, but still they are not landing on me and I am not fully integrating them onto my core. Still, I am ok with it.
Sorry, for the "bad" comment. But I will never stop laughing at the one pattern: where one person is on a certain, higher or even very high level, and so many of them say: ok, this is it ("infinite" in this case) and then another person comes and they are asking questions /"doubting"/extending that (e.g. Freud, Jung, Adler etc.). But these people are so certain about their beliefs, be it "infinite" - no way to get around it. This has been the case with my lying mother, Peter Ralston and so many people in between where I observed this pattern often from the outside. Directly contradicting their own message/concept. Hybris and gaslighting is never going never stop!
Able to accept totally, without the slightest doubt, that all action, without exception, happens as an event which has to happen at that time and place, through a particular body-mind organism, according to God’s Will - Cosmic Law, and is not an action done by any individual human entity, then that is enlightenment. Ramesh Balshekar
In quantum physics, superposition means a particle exists in multiple states until observed, collapsing into a single state. Similarly, enlightenment is like mental superposition. When enlightened, you're aware of all thoughts and feelings without fixating on one. Observing or focusing on a specific thought or emotion causes you to collapse into it, limiting your broader awareness. Thoughts: Enlightenment lets you hold all thoughts at once; focusing on one reduces this awareness. Feelings: Enlightenment means experiencing all emotions simultaneously; feeling one collapses this state. Perspective: Enlightenment includes multiple viewpoints; focusing on one narrows your perspective. Environmental influences, like interactions with people, can cause you to collapse into specific thoughts or feelings, reducing your state of pure awareness.
@sonikwro never said i was scared of him. Just think what leo teaches is dangerous and delusional and has nothing to do with what Peter Ralston is saying in this video.
@@syno9211 Dangerous things are scary so who is delusional? Awakening isn't just something that you expirience and you are done. There are infinite levels of awakening to a degre that it is indescribeable. The funny thing is that people who has no awakening expiriences thinks that they know better what is truth and what is not. It is only your bias that comes from yours willing to survive as identification that you think you are. All identifications and constructs are pure fiction. So who are you then?
@@syno9211 Dangerous things are scary so who is delusional? Awakening isn't just something that you expirience and you are done. There are infinite levels of awakening to a degre that it is unimaginable. The funny thing is that people who has no awakening expiriences thinks that they know better what is truth and what is not. It is only your bias that comes from yours willing to survive as identification that you think you are.
@@Xboxlove1 yeah of course they do their best and I wasn't actually critiquing the spiritual concepts validity I was giving my opinion of the quality of the interview. Just so you know although I'm sure it's impossible to give clear explanations of enlightenment they're still making an interview and I've rarely felt this awkward watching an interview before
..nobody, or mind knows nor can unknow that which is referred to as consciousness. No matter what the label, the symbol or the totality of spacetime, energy and matter. Form cannot know or unknow that which is real. Think of consciousness as a language that the language of form cannot translate, yet the language of consciousness is fluent in the language of form. Give up looking to RUclips for that which is real. That which is real is observing the looking. There is no beginning nor is there an end, there is no more than nor is there less than, there is no knowing nor is there unknowing, there is no position nor is the position. There is just now, being. I am that I am. I am. I...
creepy? I mean, I don't know the guy so I could be wrong but I don't see him harming vulnerable creatures, so I wouldn't say creepy, maybe aloof? he does go to the dentist to have cavities drilled with no novacaine, thats extreme & intense, but I think that's cool, I'd want to be knocked out for any visit to the dental..
I can’t believe people comment negatives things on videos like this. It’s so ironic, what could you possibly gain from commenting this (other than making the world a slightly worse place)?
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First time I’ve heard Leo listen 🥹 the silence is so loud 😭
Two great thinkers. Leo Gura and Peter Ralston. I follow the work of both. It was some kind a surprise that the algoritms suggest me this interview. I think also it is usefull to introduce two concepts of Ken Wilber: Waking Up, yhe spiritual path to enlightment, and Growing Up, the path to mature ego and acquire knowledge.
Thank you, great public service!
Brilliant conversation with Peter. Found it riveting! I sensed we are ALL Making it so difficult on ourselves to figure out this awareness.
Nobody’s asking … when the hell did Leo do interviews?
Seriously?!?
About 7 years ago; search for "Peter Ralston: What is Consciousness Work? (1 of 29)"
This is many years old. I saw it probably 7 years ago.
Around 2014/15
From now on
By far the bestestest deep topic interview I have ever heard. If you truly understand what is said here… you are there my friend.
I've watched half of this video of Peter Ralston interview with Leo Gura, and it's been an eye-opening experience. The depth and profundity of their discussion have triggered a significant cognitive and emotional response in me. It's like layers of my previous understanding are being peeled away, revealing deeper truths and insights about consciousness and existence. This video is challenging my mental constructs and paradigms, leading to a profound sense of revelation and transformation. I'm feeling a mix of awe, excitement, and contemplation as I process these new perspectives.
You and I both brother.
I am mindblown. How am I just seeing this now
How can you have possibly seen this at any other time?
Uk wht I just finished meditating and this question seems 10x more profound then it usually would.
This was an amazing listen. You can really tell the influence it had on leo in his later teachings
I've noticed that too i currently have no technically accurate word to describe it but I've noticed the ripples just echoing, i feel Ralston has an interesting approach of verbally cutting through people's mental clutter
wow, peak content. Thankful this was captured and uploaded
In the very beginning of this video Peter explains that "enlightenment is not about reaching for an answer, or arriving to a conclusion" (I add; or any "prefixed result"). And at 1:06:37 Peter is still trying to convey this to Leo...that still keeps making all sorts of questions...and expect answers. This is very basic and I would have loved a flowered blooming conversation between to enlightened guys. If you want to aim at anything; aim at detaching from everything, freeing your self, deconstructing the self, but still doing it in a conscious way in order to make yourself a meaningful life. There's really zero use to you to live an empty life where nothing matters; it is actually about finding the balance between detachment and falling in love with the immense opportunity you have here as a human being and appreciating everything and everyone. Americans can have huge problems with this work due to that a huge ego stands in your way. :)) Detach that and you are alright.
One of those talks I’m so into I don’t want it to end…, so good
I've never watched a YT video before the second video came out, let alone immediately subscribed.
These two are titanic heavyweights. As true as the ring of a bell.
Thanks for putting together this video!
His book on not knowing is the best book that I have read on Non Dual material.
Seems you never tried Kierkegaard.
What are the most important things you learned from it?
@@XAnimazingX everything is a thought
@@XAnimazingX the distinctions of perceiving a thing “for me”, vs “for itself”, vs “as itself”.
The 1st, “for me”, is relating to a thing solely through how it suits your survival needs.
The 2nd, “for itself”, is the raw perception of a thing without any overlaying mentation such as calling it a name, or liking or disliking it, etc. This is a gigantic step towards truth, honesty, understanding.
The 3rd is a direct experience that goes beyond experience as we conventionally understand it to be, and is more about “being” than perceiving.
His books are among my favorites
Dude, you need to do wayyyyyy more interviews with these types of dudes, dude. Love me sum Ralston
Like 15-18 minutes… you’re there now. He really came to a good point there. i see it like We can kind of fall asleep not realizing that we are the whole of creation and in your ability to notice that you are actually everything and beyond everything you may gain vertigo and then with discipline maybe power and must learn to have have grace and not cruelty. You may choose to have cruelty at your own dismay. Much love everyone! ❤
This is a great work from you guys! Really appreciate it!
This man has to be Leo's dad.
You are right this would make the perfect father son
As a matter of fact they have a lot of the same mannerisms. That's interesting that I'm not the only one that is noticing that. You are right this is some seriously deep deep deep shit I am just an amoeba when it comes to this stuff but I have such an open mind that I am a sponge
I really love with this guy has to say, but him and Eckhart Tolle giggle way too much
Hahahaha that was funny man😂
Good man. Thank you.
This man has the vibe of a clear quartz crystal.
What...does that mean?😂
Wow, you are so smart
@@djanmiumiun9500 ?
It was a joke@@briangroboski3429
Science is also something we dreamed up
This guy is extremely advanced in what could be called “spiritual dynamics theory” or most simply philosophy. One of the most advanced teachers I’ve seen and I’ve seen a lot of them. Maybe that old saying “when the student is ready the teacher appears.” That always stuck with me.
Ooh what a find
But Leo.......
;)
But Leo ? He's doing the best he can, he's that of a kind.
It's a joke leo always says @olatalleras8845
Super interesting talk!! Im very happy youtubes algorithm led me down this hidden little gem. But... It has obviously been cut? On several parts? :D
What do you mean with :
been cut ?
What's enlightenment in a nutshell? You wake up to the fact that you are god. Pure consciousness beyond time and space. You created this physical realm to experience yourself through all things in existence.
Don’t be so certain. This perspective can be a slippery slope to delusions of grandeur.
Not saying you’re wrong, but i feel like it should be tempered with the acknowledgement that all life ‘is god’ in the same way you, or I, are
I don't think he was wrapped up in ego, he was trying to describe the indescribable using words
@@somechrisguyYes, everything is god. If you had the experience it's no longer about believing.
@@somechrisguy I get the point you are trying to convey, but there is no need for grandeur in the perspective of the creator who cherishes everything he's created. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.
@@onimusha13 I’m with you, but I’ve personally known several people who get this insight and end up with delusions of grandeur
I believe everything is sentient. There is only God that we see, everywhere
How the hell is being shown to us in 2024! Damn Leo Gura
But Leo😢
You can see the influence, leo says the exact same ways "you see.." "see.." "giggles" "stare into space for a moment" "what is not knowing" etc
@@Xboxlove1You missed “ta-daaa” 😅
What’s interesting is that Peter looks like an old version of Leo
The two “most” enlightened beings :-)
Father Son meet
My truth shines through,
I have no one left to prove.
I am what I am.
I am not a copy or a copy of a copy.
I am one and just once.
At my truest, I am not my name, face,
taste, thoughts or place.
Really at my truest,
I am this moment.
And so are you.
And so is everyone else.
Everyone is so uniquely unique,
you just can't compare.
I am my own category.
I am the same in every room.
I am the door, the window
and the space that makes the room.
Tiptoeing the edge of lines in between,
I'm inside from the out and outside from the in.
And as I am that I am,
I ask for her grace.
To give me a yes or a no.
But Mother Nature is smart,
she chooses between neither or both.
She doesn't like parallels, platitudes
templates or absolutes.
Having nothing to lose,
she breaks her own made-up rules.
I read the greats, timeless, the self-mades.
It lets me hope and permission to imitate.
But the long starring wise men
repeat the inevitability of this moment.
I am that inexhaustible I AM.
Truly, I am this moment.
The horizontal NOW has no parallels,
the vertical NOWs are infinite.
I am nameless underneath.
It is what it is not and it is not what it is.
I predate all and then I precede it.
Only bottom-up, never top-down.
Contradictions produce consciousness.
And faith is a bottomless ground,
Many of the things he says go around me like a satellite orbiting a planet (me). I am being influenced by them, I notice them, but still they are not landing on me and I am not fully integrating them onto my core.
Still, I am ok with it.
Disclaimer: Smoke weed before watching.
Definitely. It’ll hit you much deeper and might actually help you to grasp some of this.
I am who I am, I AM sent me
Sorry, for the "bad" comment. But I will never stop laughing at the one pattern: where one person is on a certain, higher or even very high level, and so many of them say: ok, this is it ("infinite" in this case) and then another person comes and they are asking questions /"doubting"/extending that (e.g. Freud, Jung, Adler etc.). But these people are so certain about their beliefs, be it "infinite" - no way to get around it. This has been the case with my lying mother, Peter Ralston and so many people in between where I observed this pattern often from the outside. Directly contradicting their own message/concept. Hybris and gaslighting is never going never stop!
Was this an in person interview I wonder? He has a background that Leo would use ..
Leos Big Brother.
Fuckin hilarious!
🙏
Able to accept totally, without the slightest doubt, that all action, without exception, happens as an event which has to happen at that time and place, through a particular body-mind organism, according to God’s Will - Cosmic Law, and is not an action done by any individual human entity, then that is enlightenment.
Ramesh Balshekar
Meh. I am in this state 24/7. Imagine reaching a state where you kill your entire body and respawn it.
Is this an unadvertised alt channel of Leo's?
Are rocks conscious? 😂 Leo is really caught up on that one.
He sounds like Jiddu Krishnamurti
In quantum physics, superposition means a particle exists in multiple states until observed, collapsing into a single state.
Similarly, enlightenment is like mental superposition. When enlightened, you're aware of all thoughts and feelings without fixating on one. Observing or focusing on a specific thought or emotion causes you to collapse into it, limiting your broader awareness.
Thoughts: Enlightenment lets you hold all thoughts at once; focusing on one reduces this awareness.
Feelings: Enlightenment means experiencing all emotions simultaneously; feeling one collapses this state.
Perspective: Enlightenment includes multiple viewpoints; focusing on one narrows your perspective.
Environmental influences, like interactions with people, can cause you to collapse into specific thoughts or feelings, reducing your state of pure awareness.
So what's with the laughing? I think this is the guy that Leo gets his drugs from.
😂😂😂😂
I cant stop laughing lol
What happened to actualized chanel and website?
Thankfully Gone
@@syno9211 Why are you so scared of him?
@sonikwro never said i was scared of him. Just think what leo teaches is dangerous and delusional and has nothing to do with what Peter Ralston is saying in this video.
@@syno9211 Dangerous things are scary so who is delusional? Awakening isn't just something that you expirience and you are done. There are infinite levels of awakening to a degre that it is indescribeable. The funny thing is that people who has no awakening expiriences thinks that they know better what is truth and what is not. It is only your bias that comes from yours willing to survive as identification that you think you are. All identifications and constructs are pure fiction. So who are you then?
@@syno9211 Dangerous things are scary so who is delusional? Awakening isn't just something that you expirience and you are done. There are infinite levels of awakening to a degre that it is unimaginable. The funny thing is that people who has no awakening expiriences thinks that they know better what is truth and what is not. It is only your bias that comes from yours willing to survive as identification that you think you are.
I wonder if this guy has thoughts going on or is it just a no mind type of thing happening
This interview kind of sucks i feel a lot of tension between the two and the answers are very inclear sometimes
i dont feel any tension, it seems like two people exploring some questions and answers together
Disagree
Enlightment can never be clear to those who aren't enlightened I think but they do their best
@@Xboxlove1 yeah of course they do their best and I wasn't actually critiquing the spiritual concepts validity I was giving my opinion of the quality of the interview. Just so you know although I'm sure it's impossible to give clear explanations of enlightenment they're still making an interview and I've rarely felt this awkward watching an interview before
I swear i saw this interview years ago.
Anyone know what im talking about?
Yes, it’s on Peter Ralston’s RUclips channel, split into 30 parts, and was loaded to RUclips about 7 years ago
5 meo when you know you know
..nobody, or mind knows nor can unknow that which is referred to as consciousness. No matter what the label, the symbol or the totality of spacetime, energy and matter. Form cannot know or unknow that which is real. Think of consciousness as a language that the language of form cannot translate, yet the language of consciousness is fluent in the language of form. Give up looking to RUclips for that which is real. That which is real is observing the looking. There is no beginning nor is there an end, there is no more than nor is there less than, there is no knowing nor is there unknowing, there is no position nor is the position. There is just now, being. I am that I am. I am. I...
But Leo 😢
Somehow it looks like U. G…with different words.
Language is something dangerous 😬
43:13
Is this going to be 1 and a half hour of psychobabble about seeing an apple?
Yes, dont watch it ;)
No, watch it ;)
@@schauganzgenauhin it was sarcasm
Human intelligence causes ignorance.
I love nothing
You are nothing
@@R3l3ntl3sss If I am nothing how am I able to say something?
Nothing (no-thing) is everything given forth
@sandjvj911
or they love not loving..🤷🏼
A whole load of nothing.... embarrassing how devoid of anything of substance.
Creepy guy, little warmth.
creepy? I mean, I don't know the guy so I could be wrong but
I don't see him harming vulnerable creatures, so I wouldn't say creepy, maybe aloof?
he does go to the dentist to have cavities drilled with no novacaine, thats extreme & intense, but I think that's cool, I'd want to be knocked out for any visit to the dental..
I can’t believe people comment negatives things on videos like this. It’s so ironic, what could you possibly gain from commenting this (other than making the world a slightly worse place)?
@@gdtetra208He/she thinks Peter is creepy and wanted to comment about it.
@@BrezHurley thank you for your insight
Disagree
even tough its hip to be square, its more hip to be conscious....lol
I'm a sexy model.