Many thanks. A successful bearing change on my machine, which is the exact same one as in the video. I'm glad attitudes are changing to a less wsteful society now. If the fix hadn't worked for any reason, I would have bought an Ebac machine. English-made and fully repairable.
Thanks Andrea, and I totally agree with you regarding a wasteful society. When you see the videos on RUclips from third world countries where they have no choice but to improvise a repair (and they are successful with it too) here we are urged to discard and replace. and with manufacturers designing units this way to discourage your average DIY enthusiast, not good @ all. Regards.
Brilliant Just a few more tips on how to do this Job which takes time but is not difficult really. Watch all the Videos on this first As you dismantle the washing machine take video or photos at each stage before you unscrew things, disconnect wires or unbolt things, that way you won't be struggling when it comes to re assembling the machine. more is better than less, trust me. Before you cut the drum mark the drum with a Sharpie pen in several places this will aid re assembly, and drill 4mm holes at about 100mm (4inch) centres all round the lip where you are going to cut, you can buy a long, 4mm drill bit, 120mm long from Screwfix (about £3.00 for 2) while you are there buy the 4mm Stainless lock nuts (£3.00) and 30mm long Bolts (also about £3.00) You might need to buy some Vernier Calipers to accurately measure the old bearing sizes, more on this later. When you are drilling the holes test the first one with a nut and bolt to make certain you can get it in and do it up you when you come to re assemble, this will prevent you from drilling in the wrong vertical plane. Cutting the Drum. I opted for using a hacksaw, which will cut all the way round the drum, I have power tools but you are in better control with a hand tool. It took just under an hour, quick tea break included. You will need a waterproof sealant when you put the drum back together. I used Aqua Mate Sealant.(£5.00) Knock out the outer bearing first, so from the inside out, using a metal drift, it takes a bit of whacking before it comes out. Then from the outside knock out the inner bearing, the water seal comes out with the bearing when you do this. Now you have your bearings and seal out measure them with a good mm rule or the Verner capilers, you need, inner diameter, outer diameter and thickness in each case. I then ordered them from Wych Bearings (about £20.00 the lot)on line. I did this job in the morning about 11.00 and so was able to just get them the next day just using standard first class post. There is a helpline if you are not sure what you want. I put the new bearings in the freezer for a couple of hours (Metal contracts in cold) and kept the drum in the sun (Metal expands in heat) to make it easier to knock them in .follow the videos for this but use wood blocks because any metal on metal blows will damage your new bearings. Use loads of sealant on the drum before you put the two bits together. Line it all up and put in the nuts and bolts you have plenty of time to do them up tight. I let my drum and sealant cure for 24 hours after, but it can be done faster I think. Then just re assemble it all. Hope you took enough photoes......!!!
Hi Spark, I agree, had already brought a new machine to replace the broken one. Just had to make a statement with this one rather than just putting it out for the rag-n-bone man, Regards.
I was told by whirlpool that because the tub was sealed you could never get a new bearing etc and the tub would cost me around £200, which is very uneconomical. I sourced a bearing manufacturer gave them the bearing number..... £6.00 + VAT...Result. Always quote the bearing number and you can get a new bearing cheap as chips....
Thank you for the time and effort you have put in to helping others. I'm disgusted my Indesit has only lasted 2 years and they haven't even made the poor quality bearings more easily replaceable. I feel like giving this a go because I refuse to pay them £225 for a new drum!!
Hi Spencer, Thanx M8. I had already replaced our machine after realising that it had a Sealed Tub. This is the second time I am doing one of these as I done my first one two years ago ruclips.net/video/H4qycy9uoNE/видео.html just thought I would do a more detailed version which should hopefully answer a lot of previously asked questions... and to make a statement to Hotpoint, Indezit, Whirlpool.... ect. Kindest Regards.
Mines working great 3 months after fixing it by drill, cut, sealant and re bolting. the bearings were a (4 hours of pain) to remove, but you get what you want. be encouraged to try.
Great job, man! My suggestions for this operation : Door seal removed from chassis, not from tub (much easier to put back after), remove the water level sensor from chassis, otherwise you can damage it when extracting the tub; - never put down new bearings to the ground, dirt can get inside the bearing, reducing life. Also, first clean out the place of the bearings inside the drum, until you seat back the new bearings. The bronze ring which comes in contact with the seal must be examined, it could be worned out, so the new shaft seal won't seal enough and water could leak inside, if it's worn out, you need to replace it either put a speedy sleeve over, otherwise in a few months the bearings gonna fail again. The secret tip - older washing machine had a small hole in the tub, between the seal and the internal bearing, for the purpose of draining out the small amount of water which can leak in through the seal. This hole is not present on current tubs, but you can make it, with a 4 -6mm drill, which point from the inside to out, in the heating element's direction. This can add a few extra years life to bearings, since these are failing due to water which leaks to the bearing. Also - we use red silicone, which isn't as harmful, and also resistant to hot water and chemicals, we use 5*25mm stainless Allen screws with washers, they are easier to mount. And put first 4 screws to guide the two halves of tub on joining, without tghtening, and after 24h put the rest and tighten.
Also, keep in mind, that cutting the tub you will loose 1 - 1.5mm from the tub's dephts, so you must fill up the cutting surface at least this amount of glue, otherwise the drum can touch the door seal (not the case of Indesit, since the drum is about 5mm back from the rubber, but AEG - Electrolux machines got smaller gap.)
Great vid ,half way there with mine . Got the bearings/seal from that well known auction site but was unsure about the seal as it was different from the original, seeing this vid i see it does fit . Thanks for sharing . Got to stick it back together so fingers crossed no leaks . Cheers
Great clear vid thanks. Think I'm going to have to do this on my Indesit. Parts diagram and lists don't include bearings and seal, just complete drum unit. Any tips on how to find out what size bearings and seal I'll need before I take it apart?
Thanks Mr Matrix, there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Regards 😎.
Hi. Do you have the bearing dimensions and the company that you ordered them from. That would be really helpful. I took my machine tub out the day before going in for a heart operation. I can't finish the job until I feel fitter but it would be great if I could order the bearings and have them ready.
@@Woodfamily160 Hi Andy, there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Get well soon M8.
Hi Bill, there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Regards 😃
Got bearings and seal out! Found replacement bearings. How do I find the same seal using dimensions of the old one? (Whirlpool doesn’t sell for my model as it’s “not repairable”)
Hi Brendan, there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Wow, found this video after my indesit washing machine's bearings failed and thought I'd try doing the job myself. Whilst I admire your skills I think this particular job is beyond mine unfortunately.😢
Thanks Paul, flattered actually. Yes there was a lot involved in this process but had to perceiver. Pleased with the result though. We can only do what we can only do 😁. Regards.
Hi, tried to carry out this repair and a brass sleeve on the shaft of the drum wrecked my seal, if I get this brass sleeve off with I be able to get another of the same seal and fit it without it leaking? It’s on an Indisit very similar to this one and I removed the same looking seal as you and fitted one that looks the same as the one you fitted. Thank you for your video.
Hi Dent Chaser, Yes. I have done three of these so far, one the seal was so badly worn that it damaged the Brass Sleeve. Measured and managed to obtain a Seal and Bearings for the inner. Kind Regards.
Brutal mate, love it! Will give it a go with the heat gun. The machine in this video, is the shaft on the drum the same size where it seals as where the internal bearing sits (the bearing next to the seal). Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it!
Hi. Just did same job on my Hotpoint washing machine. But I've had one problem. My drum shaft is 35mm like yours so, ordered same set of bearings. But seal did not fit. My shaft has a cooper sleeve where seal is. So that seal from video was to small. And I couldn't find a set of bearings with good seal. Probably it's made on purpose, cos it's not designed for repair. Anyway I've ordered just a seal for Zanussi/Electrolux machines. Waiting for it now. Wish me good luck 🙂
Got the drum out ok, does anyone have the outer dimensions of the bearings ? Or do the inner dimensions automatically set the outer dimensions ? Many thanks
Hi Giles, You have to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller as there is no standard sizes. Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Thanks for the reply. Yes, I was hoping to measure compared to yours ... For example I've measured 64 OD X 30 ID. If they are the same as yours , i would be able to compare to you're order (I was going to ask that too...you're eBay supplier ) :) I'm enjoying this process, so happy to continue. Many thanks Giles
This appears to be an excellent video. I have exactly the same machine - I believe Indesit WIXL85 EX, with the same issue. Please could anyone advise as to where to purchase the drum bearing set, as the dealers I have contacted don't appear to stock it. Many thanks...
Hi Roger, You won't find any Bearings sizes listed in any catalogue for your Indezit Washing machine because it has a sealed tub.which is not designed to be replaced. Not sure what size Bearings and Seal your particular machine has, I measured the old ones in from my unit (@) the Bearings sizes were; 30mm= outer, 35mm=inner and 38mm seal. Just ordered the sizes off eBay via a bearings supplier. Kindest Regards,
Hi Stephen, I ordered the Bearings and Seal after I removed and measured the old ones. I have done three of these so far and the sizes where always different. Kindest Regards.
@@stephenkelly5642 Thanks Stephen, I also brought a new machine initially, but this one triggered my curiosity, so I thought I would have a go at repairing it. Fortunately successful but not easy for everyone.
god job two questions, what exact glue you use, and if is that same glue good if I got washer/dryer machine, maybe use some silicone glues or sealenat will be better ? what you suggest ? thank you
Hi Mojkanal, the answer to your initial question is clearly visible @ 14:26.... And secondly sure you can try silicone sealant if you think it will be better. Regards.
Hi Felix, had the machine for two years before I sold it, never leaked over that period. Yes sometimes the Bearings assembly disintegrates whilst removing, the bearings outer ring is what you should be striking anyway. Good luck and all the best. Regards 😀.
@@jwoodard621 Sorry Jackie, only just seen this this 10 months on but... I ordered the Bearings and Seal after I removed and measured the old ones, then
hi many thanks for vids just gt round to trying my 1st one gt the bearings in ok but the seal im really struggling with as its a diffrent seal exsact same as urs in vid whats the bit u use from the car jack whats the measurements as just gt my bit but seems to small and i dont wanna damage anything
Hi Nick, Thanx, Stuggled with the Seal myself if you watch carefully as it did not go in straight @ first. Not sure of the dimension of the Car Jack Cup which I used, this was two years ago. If you could find something to fit around the rim of the Seal, And strike it home, some grease may help. Regards.
I have just given up on mine. It's a Hoover DYN8+. I cannot get the seal to be watertight. I have tried several times using a variety of sealants and mastic compounds and used over 20 stainless steel bolts around the perimeter but when I fill the tub with water to test it there is always a couple of small leaks. Part of the problem is the that on this particular machine there is hardly any room to get the bolts in, it's as if the flange isn't wide enough to make this type of repair feasible ie it's designed to be welded from the outset and not just a "screwable" tub that has been used without screws. Now having spent several days on the job (I am retired so have the time) I have given up and off to buy a new one. The winner out of this is my brother in law who has an identical machine and will inherit a lot of spare parts!
Commiserations Dennis, I assume the Seal you are referring to is the seal around where you have split the Tub and not the Bearings Seal. As i have stated in my video i used Gorilla glue because it expands as it dries, closing any gaps which had been overlooked, and yes i had to use tiny Nuts & Bolts as there is limited space in the lip around the rim of the Tub. Not much consolation @ this stage M8 but i suppose "nothing ventured" as they say. Regards.
Hi ThePetitcon, Thanx. There are no listed Bearings and Seal for your Sealed Tub washing Machine as they are obviously not designed to be replaced. What I did was measure the old ones once they were removed, then requested the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. The Gorilla glue can also be purchased online or from any major DIY store. Regards.
Such a shock to see you need to cut your drum open. Not done a bearing in years and grr what a eye opener. I had ago at cutting mine open and once apart noticed more damage to the drum. Thought shall I just tiger seal it and have my fingers crossed and hope it works and is good but it's now on the scrap heap
Thank you for the great video. How do you figure out what bearings to purchase before opening the machine apart? Because the tub is sealed, the assistance manual I found makes no reference to the bearings, just the tub.
mrvlhs Thanx Mrvlhs, Our original machines Bearings failed so I was shocked that these so called Eco-Tubs where not repairable which meant a new machine or a new £600 replacement tub. I had already replaced our machine however I thought there has to be a work around. After splitting the Tub and removing the Bearings and failed Seal I simply measured the old ones and requested a new set from an online Bearings supplier. Regards.
mrvlhs Done three so far, this is the second. As I said before I had already brought a replacement machine. But the old one was sat in the shed, begging for attention 😀
My zanussi has the same problem, I took the drum out yesterday but the lip on one side of the tub has a very thin ledge, too thin to get a small bolt in there, looks like the manufacturers are copping on to this fix.
Hi mate, great video, I'm gonna get round to doing mine as soon as i get the time. Only question I have is, regarding the bearing sizes, are the outside measurements standard or do you have to get the measurements for the outside too aswell as the inside measurement?
Hi Mark, Good question, I think they only go by the inner ( shaft ) sizes however when ordering I always state the inner, outer and width sizes just to be sure, the Seal size also. All the best with your project. Kindest Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 thanks and yes I did me the pulley wheel, I went blank when I was writing haha. The reason I ask is on mine it is closer to a T40 but it keeps slipping under pressure although neither part are rounded and I've tried a few different bits in case it was a dodgy part... I suppose my question is do they have some that have a bespoke fitment?
Hi Stephen, I ordered the Bearings and Seal after I removed and measured the old ones. I have done three of these so far and the sizes where always different. Kindest Regards.
I have an expensive Bosch machine. Recently it started making a noise and I knew it was the bearing. However when I attempted to get repair I was told it was a welded tub like this and that a replacement part fitted would cost £480 from Bosch as the whole tub must be removed and a new one fitted. The Machine was about £600.00 This is deliberate. They don't want you fixing things.
Totally agree HotTuber, they assume we all have five or six hundred in our back pockets, but as you see here there is always an alternative way around. Regards.
@@hottuber2688 good luck HotTuber, be aware that you have to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also, then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller as there is no standard sizes. You won't find Bearing and Seal listed for you machine as they are not "replaceable".
There are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub Gerard, as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Andrew Smith Hi Andrew, There are no replacement Bearings or Seal listed for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub Washing Machine as they are not designed to be replaced, hence why the unit is glued together where as conventionally they were bolted together. So you have to measure the old ones once you have removed them, then request the sizes (Bearings and Seal) from an online Washing Machine Bearings seller. Regards 😀.
Thanks for these videos, it's really helped give me the confidence to give it a go with our washer / dryer combo that just exploded in rust. One question though - how do you know what size bearings and seal to order before hand? Becasue it's a sealed drum, I can't find anywhere that can tell me what size bearings I need for my AEG washer / dryer. Many thanks :)
speedmatters Thanx Sppedmatters, There are no listed Bearings and Seal for a Sealed Tub as they are obviously not designed to be replaced. What I did was measure the old ones once they were removed, then requested the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Kindest Regards 😀
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 really good video, fixed my machine so many times theres not much leftof the original, latest fix was replacing a dead pcb with the control panel and motor pcb from a machine of the same family, zanlussi jetsystem, perfect only i didnt have the facia so the dial needed to be printed out and stuck on
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 well the prices for a new drum complete with bearings is £250 for my model so to have it even replaced with labour costs added to the bill it’s more cost effective to buy new as you say. I would have never considered splitting the sealed drum until I watched your video, so thanks and bye 👋.
Hi Two Cents, This is a Sealed Tub, as the Tub is not serviceable there are no parts listed only a new whole unit. Done three of these Sealed Tubs so far from different models. Bearings / Seal were never the same size. An online seller will be able to supply the sizes (Bearings / Seal) you request once you have measured the old ones Kind Regards.
My tub is the same as the one in your video. Great job you did. Man after my own heart with that cutter. Is the bearing set for this tub these HOTPOINT Washing Machine 35mm C00202418 ?
I'm giving this a go, got the drum opened, I am just a little concerned about getting it sealed water tight, I noticed you used PU glue, do you find that's the best thing to use? I drilled plenty of holes to ensure I can get plenty of bolts in I'm just worried about it not being watertight when I get it back together. Great video.
Thanx David, a common question, some people use Silicone or Resin. I used this glue because of its water resistant qualities and it helps to adhere the two halves together like the manufacturer had done initially. Gorilla Glue also expands as it dries filling any gaps missed. All the best David, hope you're successful. Regards.
I want to give this a go. But how do you find out the part number for the bearing set. The website I usually use for spare parts don't sell them for my model as they say you need a whole new drum.
Hi Richard, You have to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller. You WILL NOT find a set of Bearings/Seal listed for your machine model as it is a sealed unit and they are not suppose to be replaceable. You have already split the Tub so when you knock the bearings out measure them and the seal. The sizes for this machine were: 30mm= outer / 35mm=inner / 38mm seal. Yours may differ as there is no standard size. Regards.
I saw a set on eBay that matched my measurements and also stated the model number. However when they arrived the bearings were spot on but the seal was different. Got it all back together last night hoping to test it later today or tomorrow. I decided to use PU glue as you have. Fingers crossed for no leaks. Thanks again for the great video.
The last time I changed bearings on a washing machine was about 20 years ago on an old Service machine. It was pretty straight forward. Today I learned the true nature of the business. I started taking the machine apart and once the drum was out it became clear that it was a sealed unit. I had no idea about sealed units prior to today. I have a Hoover DYN 8164 d. I couldn't find any information about which bearings I would need to get as a replacement. Anyone have a have any experience of this model? The drum is 41021082 00. It's a green disaster!
Hi Mike, I faced the same predicament prior. Never heard of a Sealed Drum either before this. So i had to measure the old Bearings and Seal and then requested the sizes from an online supplier. You won't find Bearings listed for a Sealed Tub machine as they are not designed to be replaced. Kindest Regards.
I have watch a couple of these videos , and I decided to have a bash at fitting new bearings to my Panasonic washing machine witch took all day , it now works perfect , I used a completely different method from this video , there are lots wrong with this method , I will just give three , 1 the gaiter that goes round the machine front must come off . 2 you should take the front of the machine off so you can take the drum housing through the front of the machine , 3 the nut that keeps the pulley in place is not its main job , it is there to pull the shaft on the inner drum into the seal and if this is not tighten enough it will fail and you will be back to square one , there is more and I will try to upload a video .
Hi Tricky, Congratulations on replacing the Bearings on your Panasonic washing machine. Tricky the Indesit washing machine demonstrated here is manufactured as 1: a spot welded housing unit so it is not possible to undo the front as there are no screws, so, 2: there was no need to completely remove the front Gaitor or Tub Bellows Seal from the entire unit. 3: The pulley will fall off its shaft if the 8mm torx bolt is not fitted. Kindest Regards.
I am about to have a go at doing this job on a Hoover DYN 8144D but my concern is that I won't know the size of the bearings and seal until I get it all apart and no one seems to sell the bearing/seal kit as it's got a sealed tub. I guess I will just have to take measurements and contact a number of suppliers and hope that bearings/seals are available.
Hi Dennis, You are correct, as the Tub is not serviceable there are no parts listed only the whole unit. Done three of these Sealed Tubs so far from different models. Bearings / Seal are never the same size. An online seller will be able to supply the sizes you request. Regards.
hey man, did the fix hold up? i didn't cut very well because i used a angle grinder, i'm wondering if it's worth to buy bearings, sand down the thing and try to make it stick together
Hi Los, I have repaired three so far. Used it for about 18 month’s then sold it on eBay. There are no replacement Bearings or Seal listed for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub Washing Machine as they are not designed to be replaced, hence why the unit is glued together where as conventionally they were bolted together. So you have to measure the old ones once you have removed them, them request the sizes (Bearings and Seal) from an online Washing Machine Bearings seller. 😀.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 no luck sadly, I Couldn't get the bearings out, even with wd 40,there was too much corrosion. Well it probably wasn't even worth it anyways since I didn't cut it properly. Guess it will be. For next time thanks
@@LosSerpent Nothing Ventured and all that Los Serpent, the old Bearings can be stubborn sometimes to remove. I used a Saw to split the unit because the blade is thin.Better luck next time.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 yeah honestly i just rushed the process a bit because i didn't have much time, if my next washing machine breakes down like this i'll fix it properly. thanks... about all the piaces i have from this one, engine etc, do you think they're worth keeping? for spare parts for another washing machine? or are the pieces much different in every other brand?
He is not pulling or hammering or pressing the axle into the bearingsseat. I can see it clearly that he has got min 5 mm to go. I am trying now at trhis moment and i cant get it in its correct place. It is only 3-4 mm but i cant get it done.
Hi Dave, Thank you for the Nice video! Mine Indesit Model IWC 8125 (UK) I would know its as big "ask", but can anyone please help to instruct me in the right bearing and seal order to my country in Vietnam? Regards,
Hi Tran, Wow... All the way from Vietnam. Not sure what size Bearings and Seal your particular machine has, I have done three of these Sealed Tubs so far, one Hotpoint and two Indezit. All coincidently had the same sizes: 30mm= outer / 35mm=inner / 38mm seal. Just ordered the sizes off eBay via a bearings supplier.
Dear Bro! Really appreciate your quick reply and support! I would like to have more question if possible give me the link of your bearing order on ebay or any part numbers or your Indesit model numbers? Thanks again! Regards,
Hi Dave, I just found the parts on the site in UK as the link in below! Can you help to check whether is correct or not? www.indesitspares.co.uk/washing-machine/30mm-bearing-seal-kit-6205z-6206-2rs/product.pl?pid=1111685&path=601906&refine=bearing Regards,
Hi Tran, You have to request the sizes once you have measured the bearings. Just because they are from Indezit does not mean that they will fit. You are replacing the Bearings and Seal on a machine with a Sealed Tub, and as they are not designed to be replaced, THERE ARE NO BEARINGS SET LISTED OR CATALOGUED FOR YOUR MACHINE ONLY A. NEW TUB. Hence why you had to cut the Tub open. My method is to contact a couple of eBay sellers who sell bearings, and ask them for washing machine Bearings and Seal sizes which I had measured from the old ones. Never paid more than about £15.00p for the set either. The bearings should look some thing like this: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INDESIT-Genuine-Washing-Machine-Drum-Bearing-Kit-6204Z-6205Z-C00251855/273341509875?epid=7010916782&hash=item3fa46c70f3:g:X7QAAOSw6QpbP4sz:rk:29:pf:0 Kindest Regards.
I have done that the same from another video I saw for u But there was some leak So it did not work properly coz the water switch dose not stop I think j need to put glue again 😑
Hi Akramlool, You can check the Tub for leaks while you still have the unit out, just pour some water in block the Sump and rotate the whole Tub. Regards.
Good video mate, made me cringe a bit when you were hitting the bearing so hard. Been doing mine today, 6 hrs later and I still not got the outer plastic cut away fully. Will order the bearing tomorrow, bolts, nuts and washes too. Good point using Gorilla glue, I have a bottle in the cub board.Cheers
Great video. My bearings have just gone (rumbling noise past couple of weeks and now oil on the clothes), so took apart and found it was a sealed tub. Have spent literaly hours trying to find the bearings on Ebay, but can't find anything that ties to the model. Any ideas how I find this out (I'm practical + okay with tools etc, but rubbish on a computer). It's an Indesit Eco Time Energy Saver 8KG Model IWE 81481 ECO (UK) S/N 209085226 30788300000 I know its a big "ask", but can anyone please steer me in the right direction? Cheers, Dave
Hi Dave, You won't find any Bearings sizes listed in any catalogue for your Indezit Washing machine because it has a sealed tub.which is not designed to be replaced. Not sure what size Bearings and Seal your particular machine has, I measured the old ones in from my unit (10:25) the Bearings sizes were; 30mm= outer, 35mm=inner and 38mm seal. Just ordered the sizes off eBay via a bearings supplier. Kindest Regards, Dave.
Thanks Dave for getting back to me so quickly. Yep, I'd guessed after a while of looking that it may be because it's not classed a a replacement part, but nice that you have confirmed this. Got the tub apart, but wish I'd had an electric saw like yours - a semi-blunt panel saw was the best that I could muster today as I didn't think I'd get away with using my jigsaw (fear of twanging the inner drum). It took ages :) Wish I'd videoed the removal of the bearings as they were very tight and had to resort to using a lot of brutality, especially with the inners. Measured the bearings and they are the same as in your video, but I need to check the seal (will need to try to re-shape it as it was a bit buckled by the time I'd finished with it). Hopefully get this finished before the missus orders a new machine :) Thanks again for your inspirational video, Dave
No worries Dave, Cutting the Tub apart is the hardest part of the whole process, tried my Jigsaw also but found the big one easier. Dave the video has been edited to make it look easy, I also had to get lively with the hammer and cold-chisel to remove the bearings. I had already brought a new machine prior to attempting this project. Hope you are successful with your project also. Regards.
The manufacturing processes should be regulated. Consumer right to repair etc. I think the EU is forcing manufactures to provide spares and cater for people to repair rather than replace from 2021, but it shouldn't have had to come to that.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Yep, washing machines used to last 20+ years before they got scrapped, as they were easily repairable. Now most of them are scrap after 5 years, if that..
Hi green crocs,have a indesit xwa 71451 and I know you've been asked quite a few times but am the end of my tether,am determined to get it working again.ordered off amazon because the picture of the bearings where exactly like the ones I took out , the seal has ball bearings in it so I thought I would gamble and by them but what arrived were completely different so sending back . The outer bearing has a 25mm diameter which Amazon sent me was right and the inner bearing which should have been 35 mm dia with oa size at 62 mm same as seal, I've looked on e bay but they don't give any sizes . The pictures right but comes up with part no co251855 and compatible parts numbers but this is same as Amazon which was incorrect. Can you please help me out I would be very grateful. Good video
Hi Simon, Had to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller. You WILL NOT find a set of Bearings/Seal listed for your machine model as it is a sealed unit and they are not suppose to be replaceable. Simon your machine is not exactly the same as mine so you cannot use this as a guide for your specific parts. It is imperative that you measure the removed Bearings/Seal. Hope this helps. Kindest Regards, Dave.
@@franchise123ful Hi Felix, there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Regards 😀.
mines just gone ,,,i am supposed to have a 10 yr parts warranty so rang them oh no our fitters have to fit them ok how much for 1 hrs work 120 quid ,,, ok so send me the parts i will fit cant do that ,,so they make a sealed drum so they expect u to throw away the washing machine or the entire drum because of bearing failure ,,, and u wonder about our planet the throw away society has to stop...
Hi Phil, Strongly recommend that you persue this one as they are legally obliged to honour their warranty. Maybe contact Watchdog or Rip Off Britain television programs (if your UK). Seems as though the prefer consumers to purchase a new machine these days rather than repairing it, and then there's Landfill. Kindest Regards.
Hi Jackie, The problem is there are no Bearings Seal listed for your machine as they are not replaceable. As this is a sealed unit. You have to measure the old ones and then request the sizes from an online Bearings seller Regards.
No they're not, plus it's the principle. Tubs are only welded by manufacturers to force you to replace them when the bearings go. It's something that will be probably outlawed in the EU soon. (Look up planned obsolescence)
Thats the problem with society.. replace it attitude. My mrs has a 2007 imac. The GPU failed. I didnt bin it, i reflowed the solder in the oven by baking the board. 3 years later and its still working. Any fool can spend money and buy new.
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Many thanks. A successful bearing change on my machine, which is the exact same one as in the video. I'm glad attitudes are changing to a less wsteful society now. If the fix hadn't worked for any reason, I would have bought an Ebac machine. English-made and fully repairable.
Thanks Andrea,
and I totally agree with you regarding a wasteful society. When you see the videos on RUclips from third world countries where they have no choice but to improvise a repair (and they are successful with it too) here we are urged to discard and replace. and with manufacturers designing units this way to discourage your average DIY enthusiast, not good @ all.
Regards.
Brilliant
Just a few more tips on how to do this Job which takes time but is not difficult really.
Watch all the Videos on this first
As you dismantle the washing machine take video or photos at each stage before you unscrew things, disconnect wires or unbolt things, that way you won't be struggling when it comes to re assembling the machine. more is better than less, trust me.
Before you cut the drum mark the drum with a Sharpie pen in several places this will aid re assembly, and drill 4mm holes at about 100mm (4inch) centres all round the lip where you are going to cut, you can buy a long, 4mm drill bit, 120mm long from Screwfix (about £3.00 for 2) while you are there buy the 4mm Stainless lock nuts (£3.00) and 30mm long Bolts (also about £3.00) You might need to buy some Vernier Calipers to accurately measure the old bearing sizes, more on this later. When you are drilling the holes test the first one with a nut and bolt to make certain you can get it in and do it up you when you come to re assemble, this will prevent you from drilling in the wrong vertical plane.
Cutting the Drum. I opted for using a hacksaw, which will cut all the way round the drum, I have power tools but you are in better control with a hand tool. It took just under an hour, quick tea break included. You will need a waterproof sealant when you put the drum back together. I used Aqua Mate Sealant.(£5.00)
Knock out the outer bearing first, so from the inside out, using a metal drift, it takes a bit of whacking before it comes out. Then from the outside knock out the inner bearing, the water seal comes out with the bearing when you do this.
Now you have your bearings and seal out measure them with a good mm rule or the Verner capilers, you need, inner diameter, outer diameter and thickness in each case. I then ordered them from Wych Bearings (about £20.00 the lot)on line. I did this job in the morning about 11.00 and so was able to just get them the next day just using standard first class post. There is a helpline if you are not sure what you want.
I put the new bearings in the freezer for a couple of hours (Metal contracts in cold) and kept the drum in the sun (Metal expands in heat) to make it easier to knock them in .follow the videos for this but use wood blocks because any metal on metal blows will damage your new bearings.
Use loads of sealant on the drum before you put the two bits together. Line it all up and put in the nuts and bolts you have plenty of time to do them up tight. I let my drum and sealant cure for 24 hours after, but it can be done faster I think. Then just re assemble it all. Hope you took enough photoes......!!!
Thanx
You are a braver man than me. Good job
well done on the fix. stopping these robbing companies from making me throw it away
Hi Spark,
I agree, had already brought a new machine to replace the broken one. Just had to make a statement with this one rather than just putting it out for the rag-n-bone man,
Regards.
I was told by whirlpool that because the tub was sealed you could never get a new bearing etc and the tub would cost me around £200, which is very uneconomical. I sourced a bearing manufacturer gave them the bearing number..... £6.00 + VAT...Result. Always quote the bearing number and you can get a new bearing cheap as chips....
Thank you for the time and effort you have put in to helping others. I'm disgusted my Indesit has only lasted 2 years and they haven't even made the poor quality bearings more easily replaceable. I feel like giving this a go because I refuse to pay them £225 for a new drum!!
Hi Spencer,
Thanx M8. I had already replaced our machine after realising that it had a Sealed Tub. This is the second time I am doing one of these as I done my first one two years ago ruclips.net/video/H4qycy9uoNE/видео.html just thought I would do a more detailed version which should hopefully answer a lot of previously asked questions... and to make a statement to Hotpoint, Indezit, Whirlpool.... ect.
Kindest Regards.
Exactly ! Nice to get around a company's design in poor build quality ethos (that they hope will make them extra profit on spares).
Mines working great 3 months after fixing it by drill, cut, sealant and re bolting. the bearings were a (4 hours of pain) to remove, but you get what you want. be encouraged to try.
Could not have said it better Beautiful Small. Nothing ventured and all that. Well Done.
What sealant is best ?
Great job, man!
My suggestions for this operation : Door seal removed from chassis, not from tub (much easier to put back after), remove the water level sensor from chassis, otherwise you can damage it when extracting the tub; - never put down new bearings to the ground, dirt can get inside the bearing, reducing life. Also, first clean out the place of the bearings inside the drum, until you seat back the new bearings. The bronze ring which comes in contact with the seal must be examined, it could be worned out, so the new shaft seal won't seal enough and water could leak inside, if it's worn out, you need to replace it either put a speedy sleeve over, otherwise in a few months the bearings gonna fail again.
The secret tip - older washing machine had a small hole in the tub, between the seal and the internal bearing, for the purpose of draining out the small amount of water which can leak in through the seal. This hole is not present on current tubs, but you can make it, with a 4 -6mm drill, which point from the inside to out, in the heating element's direction. This can add a few extra years life to bearings, since these are failing due to water which leaks to the bearing.
Also - we use red silicone, which isn't as harmful, and also resistant to hot water and chemicals, we use 5*25mm stainless Allen screws with washers, they are easier to mount. And put first 4 screws to guide the two halves of tub on joining, without tghtening, and after 24h put the rest and tighten.
Also, keep in mind, that cutting the tub you will loose 1 - 1.5mm from the tub's dephts, so you must fill up the cutting surface at least this amount of glue, otherwise the drum can touch the door seal (not the case of Indesit, since the drum is about 5mm back from the rubber, but AEG - Electrolux machines got smaller gap.)
Regarding the condensate drain hole: Did I understand this correctly? Possible condensate should drain off to the inner tub’s external?
This is a great reply. Do you have any tips for figuring out what bearings to purchase before opening the machine apart?
Thanx
Thanx
Great vid ,half way there with mine . Got the bearings/seal from that well known auction site but was unsure about the seal as it was different from the original, seeing this vid i see it does fit . Thanks for sharing . Got to stick it back together so fingers crossed no leaks . Cheers
Hi Rich,
Well done M8, hope all goes well. Thanx.
Can I ask how did you figure out what bearings to get?
Great clear vid thanks.
Think I'm going to have to do this on my Indesit. Parts diagram and lists don't include bearings and seal, just complete drum unit.
Any tips on how to find out what size bearings and seal I'll need before I take it apart?
Thanks Mr Matrix,
there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Regards 😎.
This is a great video. I have exactly the same problem. Many thanks for making this. With appreciation. Andy
Thanks Andy,
Appreciate the appreciation.
Regards.
Hi. Do you have the bearing dimensions and the company that you ordered them from. That would be really helpful. I took my machine tub out the day before going in for a heart operation. I can't finish the job until I feel fitter but it would be great if I could order the bearings and have them ready.
@@Woodfamily160 Hi Andy,
there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Get well soon M8.
Great video but how do you know what bearngs to order i have a beko 8kg model WTG820M1W LOOKED all over to find the bearings. Can you help
Hi Bill,
there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Regards 😃
Got bearings and seal out! Found replacement bearings. How do I find the same seal using dimensions of the old one? (Whirlpool doesn’t sell for my model as it’s “not repairable”)
Hi Brendan,
there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Hi I wonder if I can use aquarium silicone because it for water and safe for fish, so it safe on clothes too??? Thank you everyone
Hi Husky,
not sure if it can cope with high temperatures but sure why not.
Brilliant video. Well explained. Crucial bits like drilling before splitting. On with mine now 👍😊
Thanks Rich,
good luck and all the best with yours.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 subscribed as it looks like you are to mending rather than throwing away. Good on you 👍😊
Wow, found this video after my indesit washing machine's bearings failed and thought I'd try doing the job myself. Whilst I admire your skills I think this particular job is beyond mine unfortunately.😢
Thanks Paul,
flattered actually. Yes there was a lot involved in this process but had to perceiver. Pleased with the result though. We can only do what we can only do 😁.
Regards.
Hi, tried to carry out this repair and a brass sleeve on the shaft of the drum wrecked my seal, if I get this brass sleeve off with I be able to get another of the same seal and fit it without it leaking? It’s on an Indisit very similar to this one and I removed the same looking seal as you and fitted one that looks the same as the one you fitted. Thank you for your video.
Hi Dent Chaser,
Yes. I have done three of these so far, one the seal was so badly worn that it damaged the Brass Sleeve. Measured and managed to obtain a Seal and Bearings for the inner.
Kind Regards.
Green-Crocs-Fixes thanks for your reply, I will order another kit and heat the ring off, do you just use a heat gun?
The Dent chaser Hi I used a Blow Torch to remove mine 😐.
Brutal mate, love it! Will give it a go with the heat gun. The machine in this video, is the shaft on the drum the same size where it seals as where the internal bearing sits (the bearing next to the seal). Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it!
The Dent chaser Sorry I meant a gas heat gun, what they use to Solder pipes.
Hi. Just did same job on my Hotpoint washing machine. But I've had one problem. My drum shaft is 35mm like yours so, ordered same set of bearings. But seal did not fit. My shaft has a cooper sleeve where seal is. So that seal from video was to small. And I couldn't find a set of bearings with good seal. Probably it's made on purpose, cos it's not designed for repair.
Anyway I've ordered just a seal for Zanussi/Electrolux machines.
Waiting for it now. Wish me good luck 🙂
All the best Bikerski,
Yes there is a Brass ring on the Shaft for the Seal. This can be heated off and a larger seal fitted.
Regards.
Can use silicone sealant instead of gorilla glue? To seal the drum back together?
Hi Mike,
Sure silicone, whatever gets the job done I suppose.
Well done ! Excellent .. I'm having fun doing mine, knowing it's possible. Thank you.
Got the drum out ok, does anyone have the outer dimensions of the bearings ? Or do the inner dimensions automatically set the outer dimensions ?
Many thanks
Hi Giles,
You have to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller as there is no standard sizes.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I was hoping to measure compared to yours ... For example I've measured 64 OD X 30 ID. If they are the same as yours , i would be able to compare to you're order (I was going to ask that too...you're eBay supplier ) :)
I'm enjoying this process, so happy to continue.
Many thanks
Giles
This appears to be an excellent video. I have exactly the same machine - I believe Indesit WIXL85 EX, with the same issue. Please could anyone advise as to where to purchase the drum bearing set, as the dealers I have contacted don't appear to stock it. Many thanks...
Hi Roger,
You won't find any Bearings sizes listed in any catalogue for your Indezit Washing machine because it has a sealed tub.which is not designed to be replaced. Not sure what size Bearings and Seal your particular machine has, I measured the old ones in from my unit (@) the Bearings sizes were; 30mm= outer, 35mm=inner and 38mm seal. Just ordered the sizes off eBay via a bearings supplier.
Kindest Regards,
My Hotpoint washing machine has gone the same way. How did you know what size bearings you needed and where did you get them from.
Hi Stephen,
I ordered the Bearings and Seal after I removed and measured the old ones. I have done three of these so far and the sizes where always different.
Kindest Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 fantastic thanks again for your reply.
By the way without people like yourself finding these things out we would just keep buying new washing machines. Again many thanks
@@stephenkelly5642 Thanks Stephen,
I also brought a new machine initially, but this one triggered my curiosity, so I thought I would have a go at repairing it. Fortunately successful but not easy for everyone.
Indesit owned the Hotpoint brand until recently, they ruined the brand's reputation imo (used to be owned by GEC UK).
god job
two questions, what exact glue you use, and if is that same glue good if I got washer/dryer machine, maybe use some silicone glues or sealenat will be better ?
what you suggest ?
thank you
Hi Mojkanal,
the answer to your initial question is clearly visible @ 14:26.... And secondly sure you can try silicone
sealant if you think it will be better.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 thank you, I cant buy that gorilla glues where I live, but I will find the replace for gorilla :)
thx again
@@mojkanal212 i think that's polyurethane pur
Nice one, my bearing came out and left the outer bearing stuck inside, struggling to get it out. Have there been any leakage since then?
Hi Felix,
had the machine for two years before I sold it, never leaked over that period. Yes sometimes the Bearings assembly disintegrates whilst removing, the bearings outer ring is what you should be striking anyway. Good luck and all the best.
Regards 😀.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 I had to buy new chisel to get it out.
All done mine is working perfectly no leakage would like to paste videos to show all
@@franchise123ful Sure why not.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 ruclips.net/user/shortsp5tlEAyi8us?feature=share here is the video of it spinning
We're just doing ours thankyou so much for this video and well explained
Thanks Jackie,
and all the best with your project.
Hi there were trying to find the bearings for a 9kg drum and was told we had to buy a whole new machine can you help us please thankyou
@@jwoodard621 Sorry Jackie,
only just seen this this 10 months on but... I ordered the Bearings and Seal after I removed and measured the old ones, then
hi many thanks for vids just gt round to trying my 1st one gt the bearings in ok but the seal im really struggling with as its a diffrent seal exsact same as urs in vid whats the bit u use from the car jack whats the measurements as just gt my bit but seems to small and i dont wanna damage anything
Hi Nick,
Thanx,
Stuggled with the Seal myself if you watch carefully as it did not go in straight @ first. Not sure of the dimension of the Car Jack Cup which I used, this was two years ago. If you could find something to fit around the rim of the Seal, And strike it home, some grease may help.
Regards.
Excellent video.
nightstrangler Hey thanx Strangler.
why cant these manufacturers make things to be repaired at least once?!. cheers for the video I need to adventure inside my growling whirlpool :-) gaz
Thanks Gaz,
totally agree, your expected to have a spare £300+ in your back pocket for a new one, then send your old unit to Landfill... I think ! 😀.
I have just given up on mine. It's a Hoover DYN8+. I cannot get the seal to be watertight. I have tried several times using a variety of sealants and mastic compounds and used over 20 stainless steel bolts around the perimeter but when I fill the tub with water to test it there is always a couple of small leaks. Part of the problem is the that on this particular machine there is hardly any room to get the bolts in, it's as if the flange isn't wide enough to make this type of repair feasible ie it's designed to be welded from the outset and not just a "screwable" tub that has been used without screws. Now having spent several days on the job (I am retired so have the time) I have given up and off to buy a new one. The winner out of this is my brother in law who has an identical machine and will inherit a lot of spare parts!
Commiserations Dennis,
I assume the Seal you are referring to is the seal around where you have split the Tub and not the Bearings Seal. As i have stated in my video i used Gorilla glue because it expands as it dries, closing any gaps which had been overlooked, and yes i had to use tiny Nuts & Bolts as there is limited space in the lip around the rim of the Tub. Not much consolation @ this stage M8 but i suppose "nothing ventured" as they say.
Regards.
Hello
top video
which site did you find the glue and the bearings and the seal?
my model is an indesit pwc8148w (fr) tank of a block.
Hi ThePetitcon,
Thanx.
There are no listed Bearings and Seal for your Sealed Tub washing Machine as they are obviously not designed to be replaced. What I did was measure the old ones once they were removed, then requested the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. The Gorilla glue can also be purchased online or from any major DIY store.
Regards.
Such a shock to see you need to cut your drum open. Not done a bearing in years and grr what a eye opener. I had ago at cutting mine open and once apart noticed more damage to the drum. Thought shall I just tiger seal it and have my fingers crossed and hope it works and is good but it's now on the scrap heap
Hi Gino,
Most unfortunate, nothing ventured nothing gained I suppose. Maybe in the future you will have more success.
Hey nice video, question: would it be ok to use a really thin angle grinder disc to separate the tub?
Thanx Steve,
whatever gets the job done I suppose, I have seen a couple of videos using grinders.
Thank you for the great video. How do you figure out what bearings to purchase before opening the machine apart? Because the tub is sealed, the assistance manual I found makes no reference to the bearings, just the tub.
mrvlhs Thanx Mrvlhs,
Our original machines Bearings failed so I was shocked that these so called Eco-Tubs where not repairable which meant a new machine or a new £600 replacement tub. I had already replaced our machine however I thought there has to be a work around. After splitting the Tub and removing the Bearings and failed Seal I simply measured the old ones and requested a new set from an online Bearings supplier.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 how long did that take you? I'm not sure I can be without the tub for long :)
mrvlhs Done three so far, this is the second. As I said before I had already brought a replacement machine. But the old one was sat in the shed, begging for attention 😀
My zanussi has the same problem, I took the drum out yesterday but the lip on one side of the tub has a very thin ledge, too thin to get a small bolt in there, looks like the manufacturers are copping on to this fix.
Thanks Michael,
this has triggered my curiosity, gonna be on the lookout for one of those type to possibly find a work around 🤓.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 thanks
Great video - total respect to anyone who can do this. Worried about disappearance of Green Crocs from 8'40" to 16'42" :)
Kate & Fergus Nicoll Thanx Kate and Fergus,
This was due to Health & Safety issues. 😎
Hi great video and well explained but the seal you replaced at 13:33 is in the wrong way around!! thanks again for the video though 👍
Thanks Matt,
the replacement Seal is different to the original but it is in correctly. Not possible to fit it the other way.
Regards.
Hi mate, great video, I'm gonna get round to doing mine as soon as i get the time. Only question I have is, regarding the bearing sizes, are the outside measurements standard or do you have to get the measurements for the outside too aswell as the inside measurement?
Hi Mark,
Good question, I think they only go by the inner ( shaft ) sizes however when ordering I always state the inner, outer and width sizes just to be sure, the Seal size also. All the best with your project.
Kindest Regards.
What size bit did you use to remove the wheel from the back?
Terry Morgan Hi Terry,
I assume you are referring to the Pulley Wheel. It was a T30 Torx Key, I have a set so it may be different.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 thanks and yes I did me the pulley wheel, I went blank when I was writing haha. The reason I ask is on mine it is closer to a T40 but it keeps slipping under pressure although neither part are rounded and I've tried a few different bits in case it was a dodgy part... I suppose my question is do they have some that have a bespoke fitment?
Terry Morgan Hi Terry,
Not sure if there is a standard head bolt that fits. Maybe wacking with a hammer, might shock it free ?
How did you know what bearings to get before opening the machine up??
Hi Stephen,
I ordered the Bearings and Seal after I removed and measured the old ones. I have done three of these so far and the sizes where always different.
Kindest Regards.
Cheers mate 👍
Great video!Thanks.Smoothed the way big time!
Thank Crushedz
I have an expensive Bosch machine. Recently it started making a noise and I knew it was the bearing. However when I attempted to get repair I was told it was a welded tub like this and that a replacement part fitted would cost £480 from Bosch as the whole tub must be removed and a new one fitted. The Machine was about £600.00 This is deliberate. They don't want you fixing things.
Totally agree HotTuber,
they assume we all have five or six hundred in our back pockets, but as you see here there is always an alternative way around.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Thanks mate. I'm going to attempt this. This video is awesome.
@@hottuber2688 good luck HotTuber,
be aware that you have to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also, then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller as there is no standard sizes. You won't find Bearing and Seal listed for you machine as they are not "replaceable".
Anyone know what bearings for Indesit edw18432 e spares don’t stock them it seems
There are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub Gerard,
as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
How did you know the size of bearing required to fit for your machine
Andrew Smith Hi Andrew,
There are no replacement Bearings or Seal listed for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub Washing Machine as they are not designed to be replaced, hence why the unit is glued together where as conventionally they were bolted together. So you have to measure the old ones once you have removed them, then request the sizes (Bearings and Seal) from an online Washing Machine Bearings seller.
Regards 😀.
Thanks, just thought you could of saved me taking it apart before hand. 👍
Great video very informative
Thanks you very very Whelan 😀
thanks for the video here we go then time to try it out
ian coupe20v Thanx Ian , good luck, hope you are successful.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 worked a treat thanks for the video and keep up the good work
@@iancoupe20v43 Top man,
well done.
Thanks for these videos, it's really helped give me the confidence to give it a go with our washer / dryer combo that just exploded in rust. One question though - how do you know what size bearings and seal to order before hand? Becasue it's a sealed drum, I can't find anywhere that can tell me what size bearings I need for my AEG washer / dryer. Many thanks :)
speedmatters Thanx Sppedmatters,
There are no listed Bearings and Seal for a Sealed Tub as they are obviously not designed to be replaced. What I did was measure the old ones once they were removed, then requested the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Kindest Regards 😀
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Right, that makes sense! Thanks for the videos and the quick reply. Much appreciated 👍
another wrench in the wheel of disposables👍
georgio jansen Thanx Georgio
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 really good video, fixed my machine so many times theres not much leftof the original, latest fix was replacing a dead pcb with the control panel and motor pcb from a machine of the same family, zanlussi jetsystem, perfect only i didnt have the facia so the dial needed to be printed out and stuck on
@@onlyme972 sounds very innovative. Well done.
It wasn’t so long ago the drum used to split into two halves with a foam rubber gasket between and m10 bolts all around.
Very true Ferencz,
maybe manufactures prefer that we by another one of their machines rather than repair the existing.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 well the prices for a new drum complete with bearings is £250 for my model so to have it even replaced with labour costs added to the bill it’s more cost effective to buy new as you say. I would have never considered splitting the sealed drum until I watched your video, so thanks and bye 👋.
can anyone kindly link where this exact set of bearings can be bought? Is it a set?
Hi Two Cents,
This is a Sealed Tub, as the Tub is not serviceable there are no parts listed only a new whole unit. Done three of these Sealed Tubs so far from different models. Bearings / Seal were never the same size. An online seller will be able to supply the sizes (Bearings / Seal) you request once you have measured the old ones
Kind Regards.
My tub is the same as the one in your video. Great job you did. Man after my own heart with that cutter. Is the bearing set for this tub these HOTPOINT Washing Machine 35mm C00202418 ?
two cents Hi,
Yes 35mm. Just emailed a Bearings seller on eBay the sizes, Cost about £16.
Nice! ❤
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Does Fisher & Paykel sell them green crocs?
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I'm giving this a go, got the drum opened, I am just a little concerned about getting it sealed water tight, I noticed you used PU glue, do you find that's the best thing to use? I drilled plenty of holes to ensure I can get plenty of bolts in I'm just worried about it not being watertight when I get it back together. Great video.
Thanx David,
a common question, some people use Silicone or Resin. I used this glue because of its water resistant qualities and it helps to adhere the two halves together like the manufacturer had done initially. Gorilla Glue also expands as it dries filling any gaps missed. All the best David, hope you're successful.
Regards.
I want to give this a go. But how do you find out the part number for the bearing set. The website I usually use for spare parts don't sell them for my model as they say you need a whole new drum.
Hi Richard,
You have to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller. You WILL NOT find a set of Bearings/Seal listed for your machine model as it is a sealed unit and they are not suppose to be replaceable. You have already split the Tub so when you knock the bearings out measure them and the seal. The sizes for this machine were: 30mm= outer / 35mm=inner / 38mm seal. Yours may differ as there is no standard size.
Regards.
I saw a set on eBay that matched my measurements and also stated the model number. However when they arrived the bearings were spot on but the seal was different. Got it all back together last night hoping to test it later today or tomorrow. I decided to use PU glue as you have. Fingers crossed for no leaks. Thanks again for the great video.
Which Indesit model is this?
Hi User-ey,
cannot remember as it has been a few years.
The last time I changed bearings on a washing machine was about 20 years ago on an old Service machine. It was pretty straight forward. Today I learned the true nature of the business. I started taking the machine apart and once the drum was out it became clear that it was a sealed unit. I had no idea about sealed units prior to today. I have a Hoover DYN 8164 d. I couldn't find any information about which bearings I would need to get as a replacement. Anyone have a have any experience of this model? The drum is 41021082 00. It's a green disaster!
Hi Mike,
I faced the same predicament prior. Never heard of a Sealed Drum either before this. So i had to measure the old Bearings and Seal and then requested the sizes from an online supplier. You won't find Bearings listed for a Sealed Tub machine as they are not designed to be replaced.
Kindest Regards.
Many thanks.
You are welcome!
Top man.
Gee,
Thanks Rod.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Welcome
I have watch a couple of these videos , and I decided to have a bash at fitting new bearings to my Panasonic washing machine witch took all day , it now works perfect , I used a completely different method from this video , there are lots wrong with this method , I will just give three , 1 the gaiter that goes round the machine front must come off . 2 you should take the front of the machine off so you can take the drum housing through the front of the machine , 3 the nut that keeps the pulley in place is not its main job , it is there to pull the shaft on the inner drum into the seal and if this is not tighten enough it will fail and you will be back to square one , there is more and I will try to upload a video .
Hi Tricky,
Congratulations on replacing the Bearings on your Panasonic washing machine. Tricky the Indesit washing machine demonstrated here is manufactured as 1: a spot welded housing unit so it is not possible to undo the front as there are no screws, so, 2: there was no need to completely remove the front Gaitor or Tub Bellows Seal from the entire unit. 3: The pulley will fall off its shaft if the 8mm torx bolt is not fitted.
Kindest Regards.
I am about to have a go at doing this job on a Hoover DYN 8144D but my concern is that I won't know the size of the bearings and seal until I get it all apart and no one seems to sell the bearing/seal kit as it's got a sealed tub. I guess I will just have to take measurements and contact a number of suppliers and hope that bearings/seals are available.
Hi Dennis,
You are correct, as the Tub is not serviceable there are no parts listed only the whole unit. Done three of these Sealed Tubs so far from different models. Bearings / Seal are never the same size. An online seller will be able to supply the sizes you request.
Regards.
hey man, did the fix hold up? i didn't cut very well because i used a angle grinder, i'm wondering if it's worth to buy bearings, sand down the thing and try to make it stick together
Hi Los,
I have repaired three so far. Used it for about 18 month’s then sold it on eBay.
There are no replacement Bearings or Seal listed for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub Washing Machine as they are not designed to be replaced, hence why the unit is glued together where as conventionally they were bolted together.
So you have to measure the old ones once you have removed them, them request the sizes (Bearings and Seal) from an online Washing Machine Bearings seller.
😀.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 no luck sadly, I Couldn't get the bearings out, even with wd 40,there was too much corrosion. Well it probably wasn't even worth it anyways since I didn't cut it properly. Guess it will be. For next time thanks
@@LosSerpent Nothing Ventured and all that Los Serpent, the old Bearings can be stubborn sometimes to remove. I used a Saw to split the unit because the blade is thin.Better luck next time.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 yeah honestly i just rushed the process a bit because i didn't have much time, if my next washing machine breakes down like this i'll fix it properly. thanks...
about all the piaces i have from this one, engine etc, do you think they're worth keeping? for spare parts for another washing machine? or are the pieces much different in every other brand?
He is not pulling or hammering or pressing the axle into the bearingsseat. I can see it clearly that he has got min 5 mm to go. I am trying now at trhis moment and i cant get it in its correct place. It is only 3-4 mm but i cant get it done.
Hi Sonata,
there is no Axle here ?
Very good job sir
Thanks فضيلة الشيخ أبو تابانادا الياباني.
hope it served useful.
Regards.
Hi Dave,
Thank you for the Nice video!
Mine Indesit
Model IWC 8125 (UK)
I would know its as big "ask", but can anyone please help to instruct me in the right bearing and seal order to my country in Vietnam?
Regards,
Hi Tran,
Wow... All the way from Vietnam. Not sure what size Bearings and Seal your particular machine has, I have done three of these Sealed Tubs so far, one Hotpoint and two Indezit. All coincidently had the same sizes: 30mm= outer / 35mm=inner / 38mm seal. Just ordered the sizes off eBay via a bearings supplier.
Dear Bro!
Really appreciate your quick reply and support! I would like to have more question if possible give me the link of your bearing order on ebay or any part numbers or your Indesit model numbers?
Thanks again!
Regards,
Hi Dave,
I just found the parts on the site in UK as the link in below! Can you help to check whether is correct or not?
www.indesitspares.co.uk/washing-machine/30mm-bearing-seal-kit-6205z-6206-2rs/product.pl?pid=1111685&path=601906&refine=bearing
Regards,
Hi Tran,
You have to request the sizes once you have measured the bearings. Just because they are from Indezit does not mean that they will fit. You are replacing the Bearings and Seal on a machine with a Sealed Tub, and as they are not designed to be replaced, THERE ARE NO BEARINGS SET LISTED OR CATALOGUED FOR YOUR MACHINE ONLY A. NEW TUB. Hence why you had to cut the Tub open. My method is to contact a couple of eBay sellers who sell bearings, and ask them for washing machine Bearings and Seal sizes which I had measured from the old ones. Never paid more than about £15.00p for the set either. The bearings should look some thing like this:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INDESIT-Genuine-Washing-Machine-Drum-Bearing-Kit-6204Z-6205Z-C00251855/273341509875?epid=7010916782&hash=item3fa46c70f3:g:X7QAAOSw6QpbP4sz:rk:29:pf:0
Kindest Regards.
Dear Bro,
Nice to get your detail guide!
Really helpful for your information!
Thanks and Best Regards,
Has anyone done this on a hotpoint washer / dryer bhwd129 ?
Hi David,
should be the same procedure if Sealed.
I have done that the same from another video I saw for u
But there was some leak
So it did not work properly coz the water switch dose not stop
I think j need to put glue again 😑
Hi Akramlool,
You can check the Tub for leaks while you still have the unit out, just pour some water in block the Sump and rotate the whole Tub.
Regards.
WHAT KIND OF GLOU YOU USE?
Hi see 14.27
Omg I have the same cursed machine and I think it has a bearing issue (I recently replaced a snapped spring)
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What kg is your machine thanks
Let me check
Good video mate, made me cringe a bit when you were hitting the bearing so hard. Been doing mine today, 6 hrs later and I still not got the outer plastic cut away fully. Will order the bearing tomorrow, bolts, nuts and washes too. Good point using Gorilla glue, I have a bottle in the cub board.Cheers
Thank Cbf1A,
and all the best with your project. Hope you are successful,
Kindest Regards.
Great video.
My bearings have just gone (rumbling noise past couple of weeks and now oil on the clothes), so took apart and found it was a sealed tub.
Have spent literaly hours trying to find the bearings on Ebay, but can't find anything that ties to the model. Any ideas how I find this out (I'm practical + okay with tools etc, but rubbish on a computer).
It's an Indesit Eco Time Energy Saver 8KG
Model IWE 81481 ECO (UK)
S/N 209085226 30788300000
I know its a big "ask", but can anyone please steer me in the right direction?
Cheers,
Dave
Hi Dave,
You won't find any Bearings sizes listed in any catalogue for your Indezit Washing machine because it has a sealed tub.which is not designed to be replaced. Not sure what size Bearings and Seal your particular machine has, I measured the old ones in from my unit (10:25) the Bearings sizes were; 30mm= outer, 35mm=inner and 38mm seal. Just ordered the sizes off eBay via a bearings supplier.
Kindest Regards,
Dave.
Thanks Dave for getting back to me so quickly. Yep, I'd guessed after a while of looking that it may be because it's not classed a a replacement part, but nice that you have confirmed this.
Got the tub apart, but wish I'd had an electric saw like yours - a semi-blunt panel saw was the best that I could muster today as I didn't think I'd get away with using my jigsaw (fear of twanging the inner drum). It took ages :)
Wish I'd videoed the removal of the bearings as they were very tight and had to resort to using a lot of brutality, especially with the inners.
Measured the bearings and they are the same as in your video, but I need to check the seal (will need to try to re-shape it as it was a bit buckled by the time I'd finished with it).
Hopefully get this finished before the missus orders a new machine :)
Thanks again for your inspirational video,
Dave
No worries Dave,
Cutting the Tub apart is the hardest part of the whole process, tried my Jigsaw also but found the big one easier. Dave the video has been edited to make it look easy, I also had to get lively with the hammer and cold-chisel to remove the bearings. I had already brought a new machine prior to attempting this project. Hope you are successful with your project also.
Regards.
I'm taking my old Samsung apart and turning the tub into a garden planter
Superb Zannah,
recycling is good.
The manufacturing processes should be regulated. Consumer right to repair etc. I think the EU is forcing manufactures to provide spares and cater for people to repair rather than replace from 2021, but it shouldn't have had to come to that.
I agree Sammy,
as the Steel from your old unit may be recycled but the is just Land Fill.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Yep, washing machines used to last 20+ years before they got scrapped, as they were easily repairable. Now most of them are scrap after 5 years, if that..
Hi green crocs,have a indesit xwa 71451 and I know you've been asked quite a few times but am the end of my tether,am determined to get it working again.ordered off amazon because the picture of the bearings where exactly like the ones I took out , the seal has ball bearings in it so I thought I would gamble and by them but what arrived were completely different so sending back . The outer bearing has a 25mm diameter which Amazon sent me was right and the inner bearing which should have been 35 mm dia with oa size at 62 mm same as seal, I've looked on e bay but they don't give any sizes . The pictures right but comes up with part no co251855 and compatible parts numbers but this is same as Amazon which was incorrect. Can you please help me out I would be very grateful. Good video
Hi Simon,
Had to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller. You WILL NOT find a set of Bearings/Seal listed for your machine model as it is a sealed unit and they are not suppose to be replaceable. Simon your machine is not exactly the same as mine so you cannot use this as a guide for your specific parts. It is imperative that you measure the removed Bearings/Seal. Hope this helps.
Kindest Regards,
Dave.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 mine is exactly like yours, where can I buy same, the one I bought came smaller in the outer diameter
@@franchise123ful Hi Felix,
there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Regards 😀.
mines just gone ,,,i am supposed to have a 10 yr parts warranty so rang them oh no our fitters have to fit them ok how much for 1 hrs work 120 quid ,,, ok so send me the parts i will fit cant do that ,,so they make a sealed drum so they expect u to throw away the washing machine or the entire drum because of bearing failure ,,, and u wonder about our planet the throw away society has to stop...
Hi Phil,
Strongly recommend that you persue this one as they are legally obliged to honour their warranty. Maybe contact Watchdog or Rip Off Britain television programs (if your UK). Seems as though the prefer consumers to purchase a new machine these days rather than repairing it, and then there's Landfill.
Kindest Regards.
INCREDIBIL SCRIE SI IN ROMANA
Mulțumesc Andrei Preda, încercând să ajungă la un public mai larg. 😎
Lucky this unit is still looks new,how bout if the bearings are rusted
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Fuck that for a game of soldiers...
But Very interesting
Thank you
Erm... thanks Raddis,
happy to catch your interest at least 😊.
Thanks🍎🍎🍎🍎
Welcome 😊
We've done what you've done but the bearing I got didn't fit our machine type is INDESIT IWC 91482ECO THANKYOU PLEASE HELP THANKYOU
Hi Jackie,
The problem is there are no Bearings Seal listed for your machine as they are not replaceable. As this is a sealed unit. You have to measure the old ones and then request the sizes from an online Bearings seller
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 thankyou for that anyways for all your help
ممتاز💞💞💞
Ok Thanks.
daca scrie in romana cumva esti din romania 😃
Bună nu română. Am folosit Google pentru a traduce, deoarece românii urmăresc foarte mult acest videoclip. Mulțumiri.
It's 9kg machine
OK
umple semeringul cu vaselina
cam intarziat Marius dar multumesc 😎.
what a palava, get a new one , they are cheap
No they're not, plus it's the principle. Tubs are only welded by manufacturers to force you to replace them when the bearings go. It's something that will be probably outlawed in the EU soon. (Look up planned obsolescence)
@@ek8710 Top response Sausage.
Thats the problem with society.. replace it attitude. My mrs has a 2007 imac. The
GPU failed. I didnt bin it, i reflowed the solder in the oven by baking the board. 3 years later and its still working. Any fool can spend money and buy new.
As a society we need to learn to repair instead of renew otherwise there will be problems for future generations
VTR SILICONE may be better?