Zuma, ANC saga: Andile Mngxitama
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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2024
- Black First Land First President Andile Mngxitama says former President Jacob Zuma has seen himself involved in what he calls a "parallel power praxis". In an opinion piece, Mngxitama asserts that the former ANC leader has set out to right what he perceives as some of the ANC's wrongs outside of the party because of what Mngxitama says is the capture of some of the state organs by external forces. Mngxitama joins for more on this.
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I'm a Pan Africanist revolutionary, I'll never change, I'll vote for Andile, I want to see him in parliament, he's the only person that can challenge Malema and the imperialists colonialists.
They must not challenge each but work together.
Andile, Malema, Floyd, Vuyo Zungula ✊🏼
Wake up from your colonized mind its black on black why challenge each other.when they can challenge the system and colonizers and get rid of WMC.dont be narrow minded
He challenged Julius Malema within EFF and failed, he formed party to challenge EFF and Julius Malema, he failed again. He again tried to challenge and tarnish Julius Malema in the media through podcasts and dialogues, still he failed
Andile,Floyd ,Zungula,Malema & Azapo for blacks
This is how black people should be understanding the Zuma approach or today's SA's politics.
Very interesting interview Mngxitama!
We do understand but at the same time it can be a tribal gain… so where does it leave other tribes… remember what happened in the east rand & Vaal during apartheid… so I’m scared of this “MK party” … why didn’t Zuma do all this during his time? Why now? & more so he shouldn’t worry much about Ramaphosa as elections are underway… does it mean MK party wants to take the state by bullying / coup or what?
@@keleohilebonyanaleahdithej7486 Nothing tribalistic about this Zuma approach however we need to see the bigger picture of the campaign which is now in fact eradicating White Supremacy.
The problem and curse in our Azania is White People and once you have them within your parameters it would simple mean the whole harvest is rotten.
I am not fan of ANC but I am in suppoort of any perspective that seem to put black first.
@keleohilebonyanaleahdithej7486 you are very lost. The discussion here was about Zuma as a person not MK.
@@keleohilebonyanaleahdithej7486 things were definitely better under Zuma
@@keleohilebonyanaleahdithej7486
Most of the time. Zulus don’t care about tribalism. We are just a bit arrogant because we take great offence when people insult our intelligence with propaganda and nonsense that makes no sense.
Andile, your depth of political apprehension is remarkably excellent and educational. You have elaborated the WMC vs Zuma ret and Zuma's ghosts to the tee
I am impressed with this analyst. He knows his game.
Zuma is a thicko
Very well
Fully agreed!!!
Tshepiso is just shining...
Andile is truly special, but unfortunately, he's a treasure that settler colonial powers consistently resist bringing into the mainstream. The current moment we're witnessing is genuinely valuable. The decision by Black media to publish Mgxitama's piece is of immense significance. Andile being given a platform by the SABC to express his rebellious philosophical ideas (Mabogo More) carries weight.
I've always believed that delving into the political contradictions surrounding Mr. Zuma requires careful study, a task that only Black intellectuals can authentically undertake. While Andile's analysis is useful, his analyses of Zuma's actions often lack strong criticism. It's crucial to subject Zuma to critique as well. Notwithstanding: For anyone engaged in the study of politics, he (Zuma) serves as a noteworthy figure to base lectures on Political Leadership at a global level. Zuma's politics should be part of any politics course.
I've always thought that the Gupta move wasn't simply a corrupt endeavour. It was. But I believe it was more than that. Here is a Black man attempting to shift economic control from the big-time controllers (Settlers) to a group of 'foreigners.' When you seriously consider the dynamics of settler colonialism and the need to 'decolonize' such a context, you must think about race.
Zuma was the first ANC president to see the South African economy as deeply racial, what is called in literature: Racial Capitalism. All prior presidents refused to assert this fact. Mbeki, for instance, doesn't even use that term. But this is the reality of the SA economy. Zuma's Gupta move still needs to be studied, and I repeat: an honest Black intellectual is yet to undertake this scholarly journey, and Andile is giving us the pointers.
However, a well-rounded analysis is crucial; we must not shy away from highlighting his genuine flaws as they form an integral part of the overarching contradictions. We must also name the effects of Zuma's moves on the lived experiences of ordinary people. We must say that Zuma's potentially revolutionary move took for granted the power of racial capitalism, a key constituent of capitalism. This move made life more difficult for Black people who are at the receiving end of the wrath of racial capitalism when threatened. It was during Zuma's time that the standard of living for Black people became too difficult to bear.
The amount of corruption from unscrupulous 'comrades' who saw his administration as an opportunity to make a quick buck turned Zuma's vision into a mystic one, making people sceptical. The media, of course, helped pump this negative narrative of Zuma that refused to provide any theoretical significance for his political moves.
We must also ask questions about the allegations of the quick rise to economic power of his son, including other family members such as Khulubuse. When reflecting on the above, we must be in a position to say that Zuma also contributed to the mess that we find ourselves in. Perhaps agents of racial capitalism before him, such as Mbeki and Mandela, played the game so well that the racial capitalism of SA felt confident to remain in the country. Zuma's moves, though radical, did, in fact, downplay the power of racial capitalism.
I love you Andile. Thanks to Tshepiso for a great moment of television.
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Well articulated
That's why I always say we must bring the Guptas back if possible.
Mngxitama is too brilliant
My dear friend, if he is as intelligent as you profes then surely he would have garnished more than 300 odd votes in the last election where he was on the ballot....
The problem with these adhoc, previously disadvantaged people is that that want microwave success and have that feeling of entitlement, without wanting to do a days work.
Buddy, it ain't gonna work...
Well articulated, Amelie knows what’s happening nd his analysis sums all ,the media always asks questions that only suit their narrative, nice interview
She doesn't want to hear the truth
Bashwebile basazoshweba
😂 She tried very hard to sway him to their script. Unfortunately for her it didn't work.
And worse when things expose the president they change quickly and try to convinced the analysis.journalist they know Axactly the true but bacenge isonka bayaxelelwa mababuze ntoni and bangayi intertain izinto exovula umntu omnyama amehlo.
Mgxithama learned from Zuma with magaqa.a leader who never change because they pocket will be affected.
Zuma was our president and he betrayed us like the anc what’s new
We welcome Cde Mgxidema to join MK Party Leader
Master Teacher!
ABSOLUTELY ❤❤
FIRE right here!!!!🔥🔥🔥
Wisdom + inelligence=Andile Mngxitham🎉🎉🎉
So this clearly means that Zuma is no enemy of the anc. It simple means that most of the anc leaders also do not comprehend this dialectic principle/ theory. What a brain on this man! Genius
This sound so moronic
KGB and they'll say he's uneducated. Those guys don't play.
Oh man Oh man this is FIRE 🔥🔥🔥 right there!!!!!
That's why I rate you highly Mr mngxitama ❤
Do you think he cares! Why would you hate your black brother for telling the truth
Rate not hate @@sbonisowisemenluthuli695
Idiot... He said rate not hate... Eish😂
@@sbonisowisemenluthuli695 But did you read well the comment?
@@sbonisowisemenluthuli695 english papa it is rate not hate
Dankie andile u articulated it very well ❤❤❤
President Zuma was trained by the KGB; he is the real deal😎I heard he plays chess with President Putin when he visits Russia, We are grateful to President Putin for saving the life of President Zuma when he was poisoned by his enemies.
I'm sure those Soviets were wondering how daft that guy must be
@@JosiahManganyi-xs8bi I do not know but I suspect he can because I know some former MK soldiers in my area who trained in Russia and have pictures from the time, they were in the Soviet Union who do speak Russian. I know Zuma once sent SA.n teachers to China to learn Mandarin, so he seems to understand that when you live with people it's important to know their language. This is a concept most white people in SA are too arrogant to comprehend.
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 You are exposing your IQ. Zuma is very smart; he will wipe the floor with Ramaphosa if the 2 played a game of chess😂😂 In fact, at the end of 2023 Zuma had Ramaphosa and ANC on checkmate and even now in 2024 Ramaphosa and the ANC cannot make a move against Zuma.
He is fluent in the Russian language...but keep thinking that he can't even count@@JosiahManganyi-xs8bi
@@biko8229 If you add up all MK, ANC an EFF member IQs you will still fall 300 points below mine. Dont come here with your communist deranged claims
Please stop interrupting the man he is trying to explain
She don't wanna hear it. He must stick to their script. 😅
Andile Mngxitama is very smart she don't even understand what he's saying😀
She doesn't understand because he is spewing word salad.
She knows the true meaning of dialectics, he doesn't
She is not a politician
She understands him very well, he is just off their script. 😅
@@EO199no personal she understands but the script in front of her does not allow her to let Mr Mgxithama off the hook
I must say, with analysts like Mr Mgxitama we will all be able to understand any labirynth political agendas
Well articulated Analysis🤝
Guess my brother you are one of the people who must change their names because some South Africans can go at all lengths to acquire foreign accents but no diligence in knowing the names of their fellow citizens. Andile you are one of the few formidable true Pan African mind in our country.
Mngxitama speaks again! I missed watching this great intellectual speak. It's been long, long overdue. He and Shivambu were born a three decades too late for the South African political landscape.
Black first Land first we see you Mr Mngxitama we love you my black leader ❤❤
I'm happy he is back look healthy Andile he is intelligent.
the greatest political brain of South Africa
The dumbest political brain of South Africa ,Zuma
Andile never disappoint, Excellent,
BLACKNESS IS FIRST BEFORE LIGHT❤❤❤
We are blessed
Indeed
he said the most important thing for everybody to understand - Zuma was trained by the KGB. This sums up everything in this country - from state capture to corruption to incompetence. All makes sense know.
You mean sense as nonsense and vice versa 😅
Andile at his best
Andile Qualifies to be an MK Spokesperson
Andile Mgxitama for Secretary General of MK💚
Yes please. Two idiots together will double the stupidity.
That will be wonderful. He will reduce the collective IQ of MK more so than Mbalula has for the ANC
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1like your opinion matters 😂😂😂
Truely, no shallow mind without some sort of formal political science academical education would ever understand Prez Zuma's strategies, persona and animus
He was born with it no one will take it away from him it in his soul ...
Mm… he’s unpredictable
Absolutely important analysis.
I'm impressed by this journalist...She has an idea of Dialectics
She has an idea about it but she doesn't understand it.
You mean dialectics
@@solorion1234 yes she doesn't understand them,that's why Andile must educate.
@@sabathaboyana9742 Andile doesn't understand it himself.
She did her homework, you can't host a person like Mngqitama and not be well read. I'm so impressed by her, a breath of fresh air unlike that lazy journalist that's calling himself lord of the media, and clueless criminal that leaked private medical records, Karyn maughan or something like that.
Indeed very smart
Then some come about and say Msholozi is not educated, when they cant even understand his application of Pavlov theory 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
Mastermind😊
SIYABONGA MONGAMELI MSHOLOZI ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I'm glad Mgxitama finally found a suitable home in the MK. Viva Msholozi, Viva MK 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
Thank you Baba Zuma ngokuzosivula amehlo wethu nemiqondo yethu and u Andile Mgxithima siyabonga
This women she is not happy at how Andile responses 😂
She tried very hard to sway him to their script. Unfortunately for her it didn't work.
As long as we do not vote for ANC this time around
How can MK recruit Andile,i really like this guy.I only black first land first could merge with MK.🎉
Do you seriously think Andile will work with Zuma we know him he was our president . remember Nkandla hahaha
@@Minathi-bw9rt They both have the same motive,to demolish white monopoly capital besides BLF look up to(inspired) Zuma
I like the fact that the host allowed the speaker to finish his train of thought even when it was radical. Kudos to her, she's a brilliant host
Excellent analysis Mngxitama ,
Which opinion piece are they referring to here in this interview?
It’s the truth but problem is that the ANC is messed up, Zuma is part of the mess in the ANC because he is playing a factional game. ANC factions are hindering progress in this country, he should have rather quit wholeheartedly
Its this skeleton nyana in the closest thing they have over one another
So in your scenario, Ankole should be undisturbed in his tail waging job and destroying the middle-class? 😂😂
They're fighting to loot.Saxonwald shabeen and Stellenbosch phalaphala.Two big bulls fighting Indians and Whites. Black pple to suffer bcz we are grass.
ooooohhhhhhhh SHUT UP
There was no way president would allow anc failures to use he's name to justify their failure. Which ANC brought to itself by allowing media lies and narrative that JZ is corrupt. Hostile media used nkandla matter and state capture which were never been found to be true. No evidence of Zuma looting and stealing money. Not even one tender given to Guptas that was influence by Zuma.
We forget that a billion rand was raised by the WMC to buy the ANC conference and promote Ramaphosa It was a shock that this man Zuma is moving directly opposite the established white capital monopoly. Now, why is it so difficult to comprehend where all these Zuma enigmatic demise erupt from. Andile educate the nation
Best analyst ever
Amongs all the analysis of people only this guy speaks the truth....
Think why the former president Thabo Mbeki exposed the ANC , I really don’t know why blacks don’t like each other like this, poor people of South Africa support the former president Zuma including all African countries around the world, just because are suffering because of the corruption in the current government system and many blacks and whites and Indian people have lost hope 😊
Thank you for giving Andile this opportunity,indeed he is a smartest individual among black apologists and whitemen glorifiers.
Black land first can't get even a single seat yet Andile is a intellectual
Thank you Mhlonishwa.
Viva Zuma ❤
Just because he is Zulu ? Because he was a president before and he caused a mess 😂😂😂
Well said sir
Just came back from the dictionary. Im super confused with the definition and the logic from Andile. Must l go back to school again 😂😂.
Please 🤣😂😂
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U Baba should retire to play with his grandchildren. So do many many of these old uneducated politicians . There hundreds and hundreds of inteligent young and bright minds to take this country forward .
If this does not happen its gonna be all downhill for South Africa. Cry the beloved Country .
Vote Arise SA
One of the most brilliant politicians in SA.
Excellent analysis
Very true.anc is captured
This hypothesis is the profound analysis and elaborate view of Prez Zuma's strategies and stance
You talking crab wena I can see you siding with ukhala elikhulu ugaze ubhale iNovel engaka ukhuluma umsangano Zuma is the only black
President that's fighting white Capital monopoly uRamaphosa uluthiwe islima kuphela esingaboni
Your understanding is shallow
Brains on point Mr Mngxitama...✊✊✊
Here in this election is all about wmc versus Zuma.
Viva RET ❤
It doesn’t exist 🤡
Viva
Viva
Well articulated Mr Mgxithama. Thank you 👍
My Tower 💚❤🖤✋🏿
This interview needed adv Flo...
Useless academic analysis, as this country slowly grinds to failure-state status!
He is a real EFF comrade. He just needs to be careful of who is the enemy to destroy his mission. I hope he can come back.
I think he knows the real enemy. There’s no confusion in that regard
Iyo. So much philosophy 😂. But he makes sense.
I thank Baba Zuma to be open to us about politics,i learn a lot
Well articulated
FREEDOM LOVERS ❤❤❤❤
Great analysis by Mr Mgxitama....always appreciate your insight 👍
Wow!Mgxitama!!!!
Ngu Mngxi lo! He will politically mesmerise you full time.
Mgxitama uyinkunzi my brother ngiyakuhlonipha
So, the long and short of this is the hypothesis that the current ANC is poxy to the established wcm
PRESIDENT ZUMA OF SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦 IS THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD 🌎 ❤❤❤❤❤❤
He is not a saviour of the world because he is a coward to leave prison too early
Eish, i dont think the lift is going all the way to the top...
I expected this hubris from Mnxitama!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Whahooooo! The Domkop Reporter forgot to take of the adjustable test glasses when she went for an eye test !!!!🙄🙄🙄
Thank you, Andile
Sabc please take ur pple back to school 😂.
Air...
Please don't entertain someone who can't get a seat in Parliament
What are you going to do with the land ?
He forgets to mention that RET champion Des van Rooyen was a minister of finance for 48 hrs-- a weekend Cadre. 🙄
This one always takes his own direction
ANC will always lie, this analyst is very intelligent
Two forces here,stealing for oneself and stooge for monopoly capital. People are left at their own peril.
Mqxithama is one of the individuals who are looking for an opportunity to be remunerated and his support to Zuma is not a surprise rather expected...
please elaborate on the remuneration perspective?
Julius Malema said Andile Mngxitama was swimming in a pool of debt and that’s how he was captured by the Gupta family who are also Zuma’s funders and business partners. He said Mngxitama gets orders from Gupta lieutenant Santosh Choubey as a soldier of fortune to fight Zuma/Gupta battles. He does not necessarily believe in some of the things he says or writes about.
@@khaltsharivist365 is there evidence for these allegations or they are just hearsays, that Julius said... Julius said... just show one piece of evidence.
Please stop interrupting, you are annoying.
Salute Andile
The presenter is unprepared
BABA❤❤❤❤❤
Pure khoisan this one
Yes we are singaMaxhosa it’s in our blood v
@@user-bz7vt6gm6o I know .....✊
Finally one of you gets us pleasing
Yebethu
The anchor was brilliant
The ego killed this man political career
Killed? Politics just as it is true of life, is a marathon not a sprint. It has many twists and turns. Ramaphosa left politics for many years only to return as DP and then President.
So….
Yes,the ego of being against white monopoly capitalist.
@@sihletngcobo Mngxitama is not coming back to politics greater than what he was in the EFF. It will never happen. He was given a chance to sit with one of the best young polical leaders democratic dispensation has ever produced and he thought if he by then spoke nice English. He is better than everyone. He then decided to be ungovernable. They lied to him and it cost him and his kids a future that he will only dream off. It's super sad. Today he is out of the game giving analysis to things he was supposed to compete on. You dnt understand how deep this man cursed himself. EFF is about to enter a pivotal exponential growth curve never seen in the politics of SA.
@@geschenk2537 I can't argue endlessly
@@sihletngcobo Ramaphosa did not just return by the way, Zuma went to call him back coz he needed him in Mangaung, we have not forgotten sithule nje siyabuka sekuthiwa yi sell out, so he wasn't one in 2009???
Dialectics misinterpreted by this guy
Please educate the masses