Andile Mngxitama and Mike Sham get into the crux of the White Problem in South Africa

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024

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  • @KillingItForYears
    @KillingItForYears 9 месяцев назад +63

    As a white guy, I blame The Romans for the suffering of my ancestors and why I fail at things.

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 9 месяцев назад +2

      The Greeks have a lot more to answer for. They started the whole mess. Alexander put ideas in Romans' heads.

    • @itumelengpheeha9513
      @itumelengpheeha9513 9 месяцев назад +9

      You can go back to Italy and tell them to give u back your land.

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@itumelengpheeha9513 What's amazing is that this is actually a serious comment.

    • @lekgemelekgau7555
      @lekgemelekgau7555 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@dannyarcher6370 True

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад +1

      I thought it was the Vikings that caused us the most trouble? 😛

  • @craigpeacock1903
    @craigpeacock1903 9 месяцев назад +72

    You don't have a right to a decent life, you have a right to CREATE a decent life...

    • @Star-hg1kt
      @Star-hg1kt 9 месяцев назад +1

      Forget it this South African, positive rights rule here sadly

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      Yeah you right, creating a decent life for your White a55es by oppressing the natives of this country through your proxy the ANC

    • @Kush-Kemet
      @Kush-Kemet 9 месяцев назад

      All white people benefited from Apartheid

    • @caesar3909
      @caesar3909 9 месяцев назад

      That does not stand in a country like SA where the systems an individual needs to a create a decent life were rigged & to a large extent still are rigged against the majority of citizens.

    • @bafanapeter4138
      @bafanapeter4138 8 месяцев назад +4

      But how does one make a decent life if what they have has been dispossessed?

  • @olli1757
    @olli1757 9 месяцев назад +24

    Mike,don’t know where you get your patience from boet,rather you than me 🤨

  • @lamintouray7386
    @lamintouray7386 9 месяцев назад +25

    That boy is badly miseducated 😂

    • @siyabonganxumalo4574
      @siyabonganxumalo4574 9 месяцев назад

      All thanks to apartheid education system.

    • @lightningRatPack
      @lightningRatPack 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@siyabonganxumalo4574 Better than the education system you have now.

    • @expose_massive_banking_crime
      @expose_massive_banking_crime 7 месяцев назад

      if you can call it an education system. Seems like a de-educating system@@lightningRatPack

  • @allanfreedman2441
    @allanfreedman2441 9 месяцев назад +19

    This is a guy that must have failed grade 1

  • @mornelotter9026
    @mornelotter9026 9 месяцев назад +37

    Victim mentality same as the sassa generation !!!!!

  • @alkebulanafricanconversati1728
    @alkebulanafricanconversati1728 9 месяцев назад +28

    Eish Andile you were crucified bra 😮....im glad South Africans are having such conversation though, we all learn.

  • @Pack-ManT-B-Told
    @Pack-ManT-B-Told 9 месяцев назад +67

    When Andile walks into the room the average IQ halves

    • @shikomatlala
      @shikomatlala 9 месяцев назад +4

      I didn't see this coming 🤣

    • @amandadelport6394
      @amandadelport6394 9 месяцев назад

      Your comment is absolutely rude 😔 people like you are the one's with a very low IQ. Nobody knows everything, at least I have a learning spirit.

    • @itumelengpheeha9513
      @itumelengpheeha9513 9 месяцев назад

      An intelligent person will stop and listen because people like him resonate with many impoverished people, who will start a revolt like shat happened in July a few years ago.
      Imagine the entire black township population flooding into the suburbia as an angry militant force because we view their opinion as below us.

    • @hendrikperkins8741
      @hendrikperkins8741 9 месяцев назад

      Too Stupid even for the EFF

    • @Pack-ManT-B-Told
      @Pack-ManT-B-Told 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@itumelengpheeha9513 that wont be ideal, but 2 things to consider: 1. Do you really think most black people in rural areas, want to create chaos. Personally, I don’t.
      2. How well did it end for those who tried that BS in the Indian neighbourhoods of KZN….?

  • @daniel19530
    @daniel19530 9 месяцев назад +32

    Just like Malema, he is just trying to make excuses due to race........ its always about race

    • @shikomatlala
      @shikomatlala 9 месяцев назад +1

      That's a problem

    • @daniel19530
      @daniel19530 9 месяцев назад

      Yup unfortunately this is what politicians do, they scream and shout about things that get people upset, but don't solve anything or ever deal with real issue @@shikomatlala

  • @AndrewMcFarlane_1
    @AndrewMcFarlane_1 9 месяцев назад +13

    I agree to pay back all the money if Ghengis Khan and all the Roman Emperors pay back the money they stole from the places they conquered.

  • @user-ux5od5ik9p
    @user-ux5od5ik9p 9 месяцев назад +20

    Marxism/Communism and Democracy is a contradiction. Democracy implies freedom. The freedom of choice, freedom of speech, freedom of association etc. Julius Malema tried to illustrate how successful countries like Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam are under "Socialist" rule. That in and of itself is misleading. Those counties are either Communistic or dictatorships, and hardly successful.

    • @Alias-gy3tz
      @Alias-gy3tz 6 месяцев назад

      Vietnam is very successful.

    • @lungamhlongo7366
      @lungamhlongo7366 4 месяца назад

      Freedom of anything does not naturally translate the actual benefit. Democracy does not equal freedom

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 4 месяца назад

      @@Alias-gy3tz vietnam isn't a democracy - vietnam is a one party state

  • @dlwilkinson
    @dlwilkinson 9 месяцев назад +22

    Nothing that I give will ever be enough because Andile and his ilk say, "give give give."

    • @CuriousCattery
      @CuriousCattery 9 месяцев назад +2

      It's slavery basically.

    • @dlwilkinson
      @dlwilkinson 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes it's about exterminating western values. The culture of hard work, honesty, curiosity, private ownership and excellence creates wealth. Culture creates wealth.

  • @michaelwade4610
    @michaelwade4610 9 месяцев назад +27

    What he is trying to say is,
    " I believe in communism, so regardless of your level of education, your extremely impressive skills, your passion for hard work, your tireless effort and contribution to the business and regardless of my lack thereof, i demand that we recieve the same equal remuneration and respect because we are equal, we both bleed and we both hurt we both deserve a roof over our heads and food on our tables, even those that refuse to leave the comfort of their homes"
    REALLY !!!!!!!

    • @itumelengpheeha9513
      @itumelengpheeha9513 9 месяцев назад +3

      That is not what Communism speaks of.
      Communism simply means that we all do the work and we get paid equally for the work we do .
      Not that we earn based on who we are.

    • @michaelwade4610
      @michaelwade4610 9 месяцев назад +2

      @itumelengpheeha9513 that's exactly what I wrote ?????

    • @hendrikperkins8741
      @hendrikperkins8741 9 месяцев назад

      @@itumelengpheeha9513 BULLSHIT !!

    • @milmarQ
      @milmarQ 9 месяцев назад

      @@itumelengpheeha9513 yes, you will work, very hard...the top communists will watch you work,,,,give you just enough not to die then they'll have their Shivas Regal every night on the patio of their 30 bedroom mansions. You can have that, I will not be anybody s' slave!

    • @sizwemeyer6076
      @sizwemeyer6076 9 месяцев назад +1

      😂you want a Manager to earn same money as General Worker??

  • @colleenwerth6350
    @colleenwerth6350 9 месяцев назад +45

    Will your guest be asking the ANCfor reparations for ruining SA?

    • @beverleyuntiedt1777
      @beverleyuntiedt1777 9 месяцев назад +5

      Yes please

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      You people are hatred and hatred is you

    • @graphiricanbusinesssolutio1177
      @graphiricanbusinesssolutio1177 Месяц назад

      Reparations in any case are paid by government.
      Apartheid reparations must be paid by South African government.
      TRC in fact recommended reparations to apartheid victims. SA government has not paid in full.
      If they need reparations beyond what TRC recommended then they must approach South African government.
      SA government is the same institution that caused apartheid also.

  • @LindokuhleMnisi
    @LindokuhleMnisi 9 месяцев назад +30

    Andile, you used to have it. You've lost it. You've embarrassed all of us in this interview. Don't take anymore interviews.

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 9 месяцев назад +7

      He never had it. He just never came up against someone with a 70+ IQ until now.

    • @gxobinjasambemntungwa9694
      @gxobinjasambemntungwa9694 9 месяцев назад

      Lindokuhle are you black or you are an AI robot pretending to be black,or you are a choc ice black outside and white inside 😂😂😂noma uyancetheza kubelungu 😂😂😂

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад +2

      Ok Clever Black, the baas is very impressed with your comment

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 OK, nkwenkwe.

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      @@dannyarcher6370 Inkwenkwe unyoko

  • @garagepie
    @garagepie 9 месяцев назад +41

    I'm white and started my business in 2011 with savings that I worked hard to get together for 12 years working for other companies on a low pay grade.
    I then have worked my butt off day and night to keep my small business afloat.
    I now employ 25 people who are happy to come to work everyday!

    • @Kush-Kemet
      @Kush-Kemet 9 месяцев назад

      All white people benifited under apartheid

    • @mduduzinxumalo-fy6ns
      @mduduzinxumalo-fy6ns 9 месяцев назад +2

      So😂?

    • @fin2-em2mf
      @fin2-em2mf 9 месяцев назад

      @@mduduzinxumalo-fy6ns good question...

    • @khotsomahlobo3830
      @khotsomahlobo3830 9 месяцев назад

      Do u even know how to draft a CV?...the works that you claim you were doing did u even go to interviews?
      There won't be equality in this country as long as you do not admit that u have privileges compared to black people.

    • @mzansitrash
      @mzansitrash 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@mduduzinxumalo-fy6ns 🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-jk7ci3vt2q
    @user-jk7ci3vt2q 9 месяцев назад +7

    The ANC does not support poor black people at all, there are many poor starving people in South Africa because of the ANC.

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      Exactly. What i always say is the ANC is more loyal to Whites than to Black people

  • @lynettesmith2836
    @lynettesmith2836 9 месяцев назад +14

    So much negativity. This man has no idea.

    • @ColGaddafi
      @ColGaddafi 5 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂. Negativity??

  • @user-eg6xu3rs5t
    @user-eg6xu3rs5t 9 месяцев назад +7

    Andile since eff he fire him he don't have direction we don't take him seriously. I'm black south African person I work for white people. Mandela was make peace with white people.

    • @Kush-Kemet
      @Kush-Kemet 9 месяцев назад

      Being black is not a matter of pigmentation, being black is a reflection of mental attitude! You're a non-white not black 😂

  • @garagepie
    @garagepie 9 месяцев назад +10

    Andile is comparing private money to PUBLIC money!
    There is no comparison!

  • @ceveryonesboutique123ceb3
    @ceveryonesboutique123ceb3 9 месяцев назад +8

    One cannot argue with someone that cannot see the bigger picture

  • @lindylambis4828
    @lindylambis4828 9 месяцев назад +34

    Thank You Mike for giving this guy a much needed education.

    • @itumelengpheeha9513
      @itumelengpheeha9513 9 месяцев назад +4

      That was not an education my friend.
      Until one lives in abject poverty where u do not know where your next meal is coming from views from the capitalistic right will seem educational.

    • @lindylambis4828
      @lindylambis4828 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@itumelengpheeha9513 An education in pointing out that the policies this gentleman wishes to implement has not worked anywhere in the world. The policies this guy was suggesting would destroy the entire country and make poverty of the poor even worse. Politicians are only thinking wealth for themselves and not the general population. These policies only enhance the lives of those in power.

    • @itumelengpheeha9513
      @itumelengpheeha9513 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@lindylambis4828 actually policies are just a framework.
      If these were put in action as proposed and the western powers do not interfere with sovereign politics then these policies would work.
      The issue is that capital will attempt to protect itself even at the detriment of the global masses.
      This goes beyond our country.
      Many "poor" white people live the life of an "average working middle class" black person.
      Do you think many white people would survive in a township?
      This is what the policies aim to reform however such grand policies need benevolent leaders and we do not have such.

    • @EyanniiYannah
      @EyanniiYannah 8 месяцев назад +2

      But Andile is destroying him completely,who is teaching who?

    • @ColGaddafi
      @ColGaddafi 5 месяцев назад

      This is the only interview he was speaking more than the guest. Always trying to cut him off and quickly move away from critical issues being discussed.

  • @peterntuli7074
    @peterntuli7074 9 месяцев назад +19

    Well done Mike I appreciate your unbiase approach. True South Africa that wants nothing but the betterment of this country

    • @bafanapeter4138
      @bafanapeter4138 8 месяцев назад

      my problem is that white guys keep on running away from the fact that they illegally dispossessed the blacks and their land. In the first place on what did the white people establish what they obtain today? is it on a legitimately acquired land or on stolen land? Did they dispossess blacks of the land or not? My point is that yes they worked hard to establish businesses they have but what they say they have established was established on a stolen property. Its like a thief breaking into one's house and claim to have worked hard to have brought in his/her belongings into the property that he is not entitled to. So they work hard onto the land that they stole.

    • @expose_massive_banking_crime
      @expose_massive_banking_crime 7 месяцев назад

      some want to be dicatators...

  • @dannyarcher6370
    @dannyarcher6370 9 месяцев назад +24

    "Unearned. People just pitch up and give me money."
    LOL, Mike. Expose this idiot for what he is.

  • @ErrolWeidemann-xn4zv
    @ErrolWeidemann-xn4zv 9 месяцев назад +4

    The running of the country should be given back to the Boere, and it will be succesfull again, we all know that apardheid can never come back, let people who know how to rule succesfully rule, Boere.

  • @seanprinsen7265
    @seanprinsen7265 9 месяцев назад +21

    It's like talking to a child that doesn't know anything about the world. Wow.

  • @karthi7016
    @karthi7016 8 месяцев назад +4

    Cannot get a seat in parliament this guy

  • @ricardomachadodacruz3424
    @ricardomachadodacruz3424 9 месяцев назад +10

    Your guest is a total Monroe

  • @AndrewJFO
    @AndrewJFO 9 месяцев назад +6

    Ideologically blind, completely lacking in any real understanding. Even his understanding of Marx is flawed. This country doesn't need more victims crying about the sins of generations past. It needs people who are prepared to be enterprising, to knuckle down and work, to build for a country that's worth handing over to our children. Also, what slavery is he referring to exactly? The last time I checked, the only people in this country who could put forward a legitimate claim of being the descendants of slaves are members of the Cape Coloured community, the vast majority of whom are perfectly willing to get on and work hard to make tomorrow better than today.

  • @user-jk7ci3vt2q
    @user-jk7ci3vt2q 9 месяцев назад +9

    What does Andile feel about the black capitalist eg [Cyril Ramaphosa] and many of the current political leaders.

  • @TheBibi0602
    @TheBibi0602 9 месяцев назад +11

    Ooof.... this made me cringe, Im no economist... but this was hard for me. This guy would destroy the country in a year, and it would have NOTHING to do with the interference of America and Britain, but he wouldn't see it that way because his judgment is so clouded by victimhood and racism.

    • @wernerbecker3654
      @wernerbecker3654 9 месяцев назад

      Exactly, and so stuck in the past. And the country would get nowhere with a mentality like that. Create your own wealth and stop wanting other people's (white people's) assets, belongings, land, farms and the list goes on.

    • @0761ZoRO
      @0761ZoRO 3 месяца назад

      That's not true and you know it!

  • @mariaryke6737
    @mariaryke6737 9 месяцев назад +11

    Why are there so many white businesses successful who started after 1995 without any capital. I am one of those guys.

    • @NinohBrown
      @NinohBrown 9 месяцев назад +4

      Systems were put in place for you to be 'succesful' by the apartheid government, you were in the right place, have access to great supply chains, access to capital (I was in banking and trust me banks are reluctant to give business loans to people of color), more importantly your customers have the economic power to make sure your business is successful.

    • @mariaryke6737
      @mariaryke6737 9 месяцев назад +2

      You live in a false uninformed world with no clue what my situation was before I started my own business which had nothing to do with colour capital but hard work and perseverance. Say no more!

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад +2

      What, without capital? What a true Karen talk. Weasel

    • @mitchvsally9646
      @mitchvsally9646 2 месяца назад

      That's just a stupid person. How do you build a business without capital 😂😂😂😂. I guess colour of skin doesn't determine your level of thinking 🤔

    • @user-nu2we2sl8i
      @user-nu2we2sl8i 2 месяца назад

      @@NinohBrown Delusional and you dont even know it

  • @TheDefenseIsUpNext
    @TheDefenseIsUpNext 9 месяцев назад +6

    If you can't regulate the taxi industry, then don't talk about governance because you can't even solve the problems of your own immediate community.

  • @JohnKirsten-qt6mf
    @JohnKirsten-qt6mf 9 месяцев назад +18

    The sad part is that people vote for Mr Mngxitama. He may have good intentions but based on this interview his reality is very far from what actually happens in South Africa.

    • @Kush-Kemet
      @Kush-Kemet 9 месяцев назад

      All white people benefited from Apartheid

    • @EyanniiYannah
      @EyanniiYannah 8 месяцев назад

      Andile Mngxitama is taking white people deep down in a deepest water where none of them can swim.He is telling nothing but the truth and he is most hated for it.

    • @ColGaddafi
      @ColGaddafi 5 месяцев назад

      He exposed the level of arrogance of wmc.

    • @0761ZoRO
      @0761ZoRO 3 месяца назад

      Hypocrisy of the highest order! Right now every white person is rooting for Israel to take over every square inch of Palestinian land apparently because it belongs to Israel, and yet none of them is willing to turn over clearly stolen land in SA🚮

  • @sabinekoch3448
    @sabinekoch3448 9 месяцев назад +8

    I wish people wouldn’t make personal, rude comments in the comment section. There is a lot to develop in this country and rudeness goes nowhere.

    • @vnlpat001
      @vnlpat001 9 месяцев назад +4

      I will be rude to someone who wants to kill people via their race! I agree with you normally but Mike should not have gotten this psychopath on studio. I'm shocked he did and even though I didn't watch it (because via comments and I know this racist - I know how it went) I just hope Mike was ok physically even after the interview - cause if this racist went into any kind of rage - Mike would be in danger. FACTS

    • @MmetxaRuth-sp7km
      @MmetxaRuth-sp7km 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@vnlpat001how did you get to that conclusion that Andile wants to kill anyone? Rationality says when you do a bad thing to someone they are bound to want revenge, here are words of wisdom Africans in particular black people will never kill white people because we don't want generations to come to carry the guilt of our actions. relax no will kill you, but I can't speak on behalf of criminals. Rationality also says we need to be honest to truly solve problems. And people are not being honest yet alone being human about the issues of this country

    • @vnlpat001
      @vnlpat001 9 месяцев назад

      @@MmetxaRuth-sp7km I'm ALL for listening to anyone regarding ALL these issues you saying. But I will never forget when this guy said on a stage "We will kill those Boere, even down to their last cats!"

    • @MmetxaRuth-sp7km
      @MmetxaRuth-sp7km 9 месяцев назад

      @@vnlpat001 I'm sorry to hear that someone should have opened a case. Sometimes I ask myself what will be the end game of humanity. I wonder what it will take for people to see that the beauty of existence lies in shared love for humanity and nature. Sometimes I asked myself what would have been like if Europeans came to Africa with good faith, we go around the bush the problems of this world are all created by European greed.look how Palestinians are dying, how the Jews have suffered in the world. Africans have lost sense of desire as the world has been a cruel place, the whole world submits to the desire of the Europeans the British in particular, I wonder what is the end game

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for your positive comments. But unfortunately there's nothing SA can build if Whites are still here. White people are full of hatred they can never change they've reached expiry date. I've realised that Nazism is not limited to Nazis, all Whites have a Nazi in them and are fascists

  • @sfisomlondo6699
    @sfisomlondo6699 9 месяцев назад +18

    Lol Andile is so lost,I love him though but his crazy ideas and beliefs are beyond shocking

  • @garagepie
    @garagepie 9 месяцев назад +6

    Education is the only equalizer and it failed miserably!
    81% of South African learners in grade 4 cannot read for meaning.
    Only 6% of SA schools have after-school activities like sports, choir, chess, dancing, acting etc
    What did you expect the outcome was going to be?

    • @CuriousCattery
      @CuriousCattery 9 месяцев назад +2

      Completely agree. I don't think it's in the best interest of the ANC to educate the population. Keep them stupid and starving for handouts come election day.

  • @helenduplessis4166
    @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад +7

    Once the land is expropriated, what exactly is this party going to do with it? Will all farming in RSA be reduced to subsistence farming? Where are we getting our food from? Farming is a profession that requires skill and experience.

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад +1

      So, we're all going to be working 9 - 5 and then farming when we get home...

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад

      Ag, ja, who cares about the millions who died from STARVATION thanks tor Mao Zedong and his crazy ideas.

    • @MoreThanRuan
      @MoreThanRuan 6 месяцев назад

      More baling out like with every state enterprise. I’ve met so many white tea & nut farmers who lease reclaimed land from black owners for next to nothing because they have zero interest or drive to farm. They just want the money.

  • @mauritzvandenheever2780
    @mauritzvandenheever2780 9 месяцев назад +26

    As much as l am for the upliftment of the previous disadvantage, whites, coloureds and Indians have the same right to live in this country. As much as he would wish the other colour groups would disappear it will not happen. Majority of black farmers who got land and some very lucrative farms from previous white owners through land claims were unsuccessful and land now just used for sustaining farming. The whole ANC model wrong but too late to correct now, maybe.

    • @MmetxaRuth-sp7km
      @MmetxaRuth-sp7km 9 месяцев назад +7

      I don't understand why White people only believe they can relate to black people through the ANC that they decided to support instead of the PAC strange. Personally I don't have a problem with Afrikaners or British people. I just don't understand why it's difficult for them to co-exist without the need for a sense of superiority over others. I mean I'm Zulu my ancestors had a superior attitude towards other non Zulu but we have made a conscious decision and an effort to reconcile with everyone. My ancestors did horrible things but we have decided on a different path.

    • @itumelengpheeha9513
      @itumelengpheeha9513 9 месяцев назад +1

      The reason for the failure is that the black farmcworker is not a manager.
      We need to build managers out of the people who receive these lands before we even give this land back to the people .
      We will not see eye to eye on this because if you come from a point of privilege.
      My son will not know what the child in the township is going through by looking at them.

    • @theodorecobernneels2377
      @theodorecobernneels2377 9 месяцев назад

      @@MmetxaRuth-sp7km The PAC is a pan-Africanist party why on earth would any white person try and relate to black people through them. they hate whites to the core. They don't want whites in the country let alone the whole continent. But I would agree some whites form their perceptions of us through what they see in the ANC and I am frustrated that they don't realise that we are not a homogenous group. there certainly are competent black farmers out there who are not blasted over the news airways by our media. I would also say I grew up in white areas and went to white schools. The number of them who actually think they are superior is surprisingly very low. Or maybe its because i dont see them as superior to me that I don't see their supposedly "superiority complex"

    • @Mikeeassay
      @Mikeeassay 9 месяцев назад +1

      But uplifting of previously disadvantaged includes Coloureds and Indians they were not immune to the apartheid.

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@MmetxaRuth-sp7km These people(Whites) have blurred the line between Black people and the ANC. And it's calculated, painting Black people as ANC makes them "victims", and the real victims of the ANC which are ordinarily Black people become villians just like how they see the ANC

  • @FictionHubZA
    @FictionHubZA 9 месяцев назад +14

    This is the most unexpected interview this channel has had.
    Also where is the interview with Mpho Phalatse.

  • @tshidisomosoeu
    @tshidisomosoeu 9 месяцев назад +12

    This was unexpected. Should be interesting

  • @shikomatlala
    @shikomatlala 9 месяцев назад +6

    I didn't expect Mr Mngxitama to be this collected.
    They get a little heated towards the end of the interview

  • @helenduplessis4166
    @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад +3

    What? We have a MAJORITY black middle class. Andile, please do your homework.

  • @halinaleonowicz8038
    @halinaleonowicz8038 9 месяцев назад +9

    Andile M.. is the biggest intelligence pretended, intellectually orientated, pretentious politician.
    😂😢😂

    • @normaday6289
      @normaday6289 9 месяцев назад

      Intellectually, really !!!!

  • @shombela2
    @shombela2 9 месяцев назад +19

    I'm a fan of this show. Just gotta love the respectful penetrating robust dialogue. I learnt a lot. Good on ya both!

  • @mmuelediletang7552
    @mmuelediletang7552 9 месяцев назад +4

    These Debate dearly needed Malema, Floyd, Dr Ndlozi, Mike would turn Pink, Andile is blinded by survival tactics and love/hate between Capitalists/Thieves who is a better Devil

    • @mikesham3204
      @mikesham3204 9 месяцев назад

      Hello sir, if you could possibly help me to get hold of any of the leadership in the EFF to invite them on to The State of the Nation, I would gladly turn pink! If you have any contact details, you can send the my email address: mike@streamin.co.za Thank you for watching the show. Mike Sham

    • @0761ZoRO
      @0761ZoRO 3 месяца назад

      Malema would tell Mike he is such a weak, weak representative of whiteness😂

  • @MrSpitfirebrothers
    @MrSpitfirebrothers 9 месяцев назад +8

    Hard to listen to this guy

  • @petermeyer5626
    @petermeyer5626 9 месяцев назад +8

    Black's must also pay for Khoi San land.

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      We didn't take Khoisan land you just rewriting history. Blacks and Khoisans fought side by side against your murderous and your rapist forefathers. The rape products called Coloureds from that mass rape by your forefathers are the ones pushing that agenda of Blacks taking Khoisans land in partnership with you

    • @theninjainvestor1235
      @theninjainvestor1235 9 месяцев назад

      What is makes you think khoisan ain't black Afrikans?

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      @@theninjainvestor1235 Don't mind this person, he's just a great grandchild of the rapists who came here to colonize us. Real Khwe Xam people don't hate Black people

    • @petermeyer5626
      @petermeyer5626 9 месяцев назад

      They have title deeds of their land in this country

    • @theninjainvestor1235
      @theninjainvestor1235 9 месяцев назад

      @@petermeyer5626 so since Zulus have and Sothos and Xhosa and Pedis etc. Have title deeds on their land here in the highest edge of Afrika, according to your analogy, they are not black Africans?

  • @helenduplessis4166
    @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад +3

    A bit of pension - sheesh! We all invest for YEARS in order to have a comfortable retirement. After our medical aids, the government will go after our pensions. The last HUGE pot of gold...

  • @ErrolWeidemann-xn4zv
    @ErrolWeidemann-xn4zv 9 месяцев назад +3

    110 IQ cannot argue against 70 IQ it does not understand.

  • @ncedisampemnyama1150
    @ncedisampemnyama1150 9 месяцев назад +5

    Dankie Andile

    • @Kush-Kemet
      @Kush-Kemet 9 месяцев назад

      Niqhabile maqhabane

  • @gpdally-tupa
    @gpdally-tupa 8 месяцев назад +2

    South Africa needs to keep education as a priority

    • @nivob4076
      @nivob4076 3 месяца назад

      ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @janewhite572
    @janewhite572 9 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you Mike 🙏 for taking the time to educate.

  • @johnmills9360
    @johnmills9360 9 месяцев назад +6

    The problem is those pesky bits and bytes on disk drives in banks around the world that can move at the speed of light to where they are treated best . Unless you understand their propensity to seek out where they are treated best , you cant begin to position yourself as a beneficiary of their movements.

  • @convo-spreaders
    @convo-spreaders 9 месяцев назад +2

    Mr Mngxitama, l have to be honest with you brother.
    What you are advocating is not practical and therefore will never materialize.
    I admire your vision, however, it is pie in the sky, unfortunately, some of our people listen to guys like you and the Red Brigade and are hoodwinked into believing that somehow you are capable of bringing about real and meaningful change to their lives. Well, the truth is you do not have the answers.
    You guys are very adept at pointing to all the problems, but with respect, your solutions are fanciful.

    • @MoreThanRuan
      @MoreThanRuan 6 месяцев назад

      It’s simple. They say what they say for votes. Maybe they even believe some of it, maybe not. But all they care about is enough votes for a seat in Parliament. That’s the jackpot. Using their naive voters to advance their own personal goals.

  • @davidclowes2280
    @davidclowes2280 9 месяцев назад +7

    Very well done Mike!!!

  • @alanyoung-pugh832
    @alanyoung-pugh832 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks Mike. This man is mostly incoherent based on his answers or lack thereof. Just keep neutral. His own utterances are sufficient without much rebuttal.

  • @seanprinsen7265
    @seanprinsen7265 9 месяцев назад +8

    Andile doesnt know the definition of 99.9% of the words he uses. Smf!

  • @sakhiledlomo9685
    @sakhiledlomo9685 9 месяцев назад +4

    To make regress the best place to help is township creche school and university

  • @grumpygamer5163
    @grumpygamer5163 9 месяцев назад +5

    Next episode. Resolving the black issue in south africa.

  • @allanfreedman2441
    @allanfreedman2441 4 месяца назад +2

    Mike you should have given the man KFC street wise and he will agree with you

  • @hlawulekamaswanganyi6438
    @hlawulekamaswanganyi6438 9 месяцев назад +2

    What a painful interview to endure. What on earth is Andile talking about?

  • @chaser1242
    @chaser1242 9 месяцев назад +5

    Now I believe you when you say EFF doesn't want to come to the channel

    • @mikesham3204
      @mikesham3204 9 месяцев назад

      Do you think that they are too scared to come onto the channel?

    • @lightningRatPack
      @lightningRatPack 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@mikesham3204 EFF cant debate people. They never go on channels that are not pro EFF.

  • @Tinker8531
    @Tinker8531 9 месяцев назад +2

    If Jooste gave him money tommorrow, he would be his best friend, he loves money, but money does not love him.

  • @Kuhlekonke02
    @Kuhlekonke02 5 месяцев назад +2

    Really wiping the floor with Andile

  • @garagepie
    @garagepie 9 месяцев назад +3

    I'm an Irish, South African, my people were ruled by the English for around 400 years! 🤣

  • @allanfreedman2441
    @allanfreedman2441 4 месяца назад +2

    Mike i must thank you for this
    Most entertaining and to know that there's 19500 of them around is very surprising
    I assume that they are still in grade R for the past 30 years

  • @user-lf5ze5fj6k
    @user-lf5ze5fj6k Месяц назад

    They killed our families, our chiefs, our brothers and sisters, our children. They must bring them back

  • @jagoz9367
    @jagoz9367 9 месяцев назад +10

    Andile has a wish that will never be fullfilled. This need for land is not going to happen at least in the next 100 years. For starters the issue is not about land but a citizenry not geared for progress. It boils down to culture and you find the majority of SA are not in that frame of mind. Ordinary citizens are not willing to sacrifice their time and a few rands a month to work toewards a specific goal. It all boils down to priorities and the popular culture is around instant gratification, booze and a good time. We can blame apartheid for this general apathy, bantu education annd all the rest of it, but at the end of the day the culture has to change or someone has to change this thing of people prioritising booze and a nice time at the expense of self improvement. I myself am not immune from thissituation as I am not educated, I didnt work hard and I am today unemployed or am rather informally employed and earn peanuts. I cant buy drinks for potential girlfriends due to my past laziness and decisions that were based on laziness and a victim mentality

  • @simphiwemarule2803
    @simphiwemarule2803 9 месяцев назад +4

    It pains me to watch it. I can feel the pain from my stomach.

  • @nedor64
    @nedor64 9 месяцев назад +12

    I wonder how the situation would have been in South Africa now if the colonizers had been black. The point I want to make is that white people developed themselves over many years and I doubt if any cultural group will develop any other which differs in many ways from themselves. How can that be unethical like Mngxitama claims it is?

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 9 месяцев назад +4

      What do you mean by 'if'? The majority ARE colonisers....from Cameroon!

    • @0761ZoRO
      @0761ZoRO 3 месяца назад

      No need to imagine anything. White Jews were oppressed and then duly compensated. Even today America and Western Europe are still behind them in their quest to take back 'their' land. Why does it suddenly become difficult to understand such logic when it comes to blacks demanding the same kind of justice?

  • @phillipshepherd1465
    @phillipshepherd1465 9 месяцев назад +3

    I will not pay you or anyone for something I did not do.

  • @AlettaMostert
    @AlettaMostert 9 месяцев назад +5

    Andile hate on whites are not the answer. There's a place for all of us in SA. Pray either for peace and love for everyone on earth.

    • @levikalombo1630
      @levikalombo1630 6 месяцев назад

      Nope there's a place for you in Holland. Not here. VIVA EFF

  • @demongs7481
    @demongs7481 Месяц назад

    You will be shocked at how much unused land is in the hands of the state

  • @GodfreyWitbooi
    @GodfreyWitbooi Месяц назад

    This guy didnt even live in the apartheid era i dont even have to watch the interview 2 know what he will say lets pray for our brother for peace of heart he need it

  • @Mafikizolo-ft8qi
    @Mafikizolo-ft8qi 9 месяцев назад +2

    The host of the show should of gotten another person to be the interviewer and he must also be a guest. He interrupts, asks questions and don't give you time to answer. Andile was too patient with him in my view

  • @zinhledlomo7486
    @zinhledlomo7486 9 месяцев назад +2

    The key to change South Africa is Education we need to invest in township creche schools and university

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад +1

      You right Zinhle but that's a revolution wearing white gloves. We still gonna be oppressed by these Whites on our land until we sacrifice our lives fighting. No revolution was won by negotiating on the table in European wars that's why they were completely freed

  • @Ssdorobi
    @Ssdorobi 9 месяцев назад +2

    It's such a shame that Andile is such a low level thinker

  • @seanprinsen7265
    @seanprinsen7265 9 месяцев назад +25

    So in summary: We need to solve past racial crimes with new racial crimes. And this from someone who despises racists but is one himself. LOL!

    • @sizwemeyer6076
      @sizwemeyer6076 9 месяцев назад

      😂

    • @seanprinsen7265
      @seanprinsen7265 9 месяцев назад

      @@sizwemeyer6076 Sarcasm?

    • @CuriousCattery
      @CuriousCattery 9 месяцев назад +2

      EFF in a nutshell 😂

    • @mduduzinxumalo-fy6ns
      @mduduzinxumalo-fy6ns 9 месяцев назад +1

      What happened on the left must happen on the right. Did you think were just gonna get away with evil deeds just like that?😮

    • @CuriousCattery
      @CuriousCattery 9 месяцев назад +1

      @mduduzinxumalo-fy6ns you do realize the people responsible are long dead? Do you hold every German accountable for the deeds of Hitler. Or every Russian for the actions of Stalin? Or is every Chinese person responsible for what Mao did?
      If we went by your logic, 99% of humans would be killed. Please study history and then tell me this is not so.

  • @luyoloradebe2849
    @luyoloradebe2849 9 месяцев назад +5

    Mike is talking more than Andile, why did'nt he just interview himself?

    • @mikesham3204
      @mikesham3204 9 месяцев назад +5

      I am not a journalist. I am a patriot that wants the country to succeed. If what any of my guests says needs challenging, they will be challenged

  • @stevenphiri8041
    @stevenphiri8041 9 месяцев назад +2

    Andile, please next do some research. You fell off mate. You misrepresenting us sir.

  • @mariahkamogelomoloisane6276
    @mariahkamogelomoloisane6276 9 месяцев назад +8

    He wiped the floor with Andile

    • @Kush-Kemet
      @Kush-Kemet 9 месяцев назад

      Self hating non-white

    • @lightningRatPack
      @lightningRatPack 9 месяцев назад

      Ya it was like watching someone getting bullied.

  • @dannyarcher6370
    @dannyarcher6370 9 месяцев назад +4

    Proudly problematic!! 💪🏻💪🏻

  • @user-nu2we2sl8i
    @user-nu2we2sl8i 2 месяца назад +1

    Mike wiping the floor with Andile!

  • @melusimpofu8984
    @melusimpofu8984 2 месяца назад

    Ngxithama south Africa needs people like you bra

  • @kevinkatzke5350
    @kevinkatzke5350 9 месяцев назад +3

    Well handled Mike thank you 🙏

  • @siyabongamazibuko7368
    @siyabongamazibuko7368 9 месяцев назад +3

    LoL but Mikes perspective of the PIC is inaccurate.

  • @Nevilledpsn
    @Nevilledpsn 9 месяцев назад

    I saved a business where the Shareholders were going to close it down 13 years ago, it’s still alive Buddy. I used my pension and loans to do so it, still employs 20 people and I have established another outsourcing business from the UK which employs 27 and mainly not white ie 82%. It’s too small for government subsidies because they favour big business, so I went it alone and that has been running for two years.What have you done? How many jobs have you created?

  • @helenduplessis4166
    @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад +1

    But, SAA was bought by a black company... And we, as tax payers, are STILL paying for SAA.

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад

      ANC isn't capitalist at all... this is why they are destroying our economy.

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 9 месяцев назад

      Actually, I am not sure what ANC is... seems they are just in it for themselves... They aren't even socialist or communist.

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      Hey stray Karen that company is not Black, it happens to have a Black name. Ramaphosa would never give an SOE to a Black company only Whites and indians. Ok stray Karen

  • @kobusswanepoel6447
    @kobusswanepoel6447 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Chinese is not lazy and they work without supervision. The anc caders get paid without showing up for work!!! When they ate at work they sit on their hands!! Or stare at cellphone srceens!!!

  • @chrisvanzyl8671
    @chrisvanzyl8671 6 месяцев назад

    So I watched this discussion with interest. Any white person over the age of fifty who denies that they were a beneficiary of the apartheid is being disingenuous. Conversely they were also victims of the propaganda fed to them, leading to an unfounded belief that they were in some way superior to other races. What I got out of the system was a first class education to the detriment of other races.
    Andile wants reparation. Nothing wrong with the concept but how? I did it by creating a business that employs 50 people and educates them and their children. No way in the world that I would ever line the pockets of a distant authority who is a liberty to use the funds as they please. There is only one way. Share your success with those around you. They are after all the ones who enabled it. White male 68 years old!

  • @intellifly747
    @intellifly747 9 месяцев назад +1

    Due to rich capitalists in the middle east and the british I blame them why my white skin is not being respected. I went to school and got a degree through a student loan but I want a ferrari and a G-wagon like the Dubai rich people and King Charles for my oppression because I only have a BMW.
    The people in shacks will blame the rich people with houses.
    The people with houses will blame the evil rich poeple with mansions.
    The people with mansions will blame the evil people who have mensions and private jets.
    Thus, any political party or class of people who are the lowest will likely blame the rest of the world for their problems without understanding that every person on earth is just trying to make a living.

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      Just like when your forefathers came here and murdered , raped and robbed, just like how you manipulated Mandela for your benefit to keep the wealth of this for your White race and not distribute equally you were trying to make a living

  • @laurentduplessis2109
    @laurentduplessis2109 2 месяца назад

    I am a white South African. I have never and will never apologise to any race or racist. I am proud and diginified. I have not committed a crime against any person or group. Everyone who could be blamed is dead. Dead people are not talking. Thus, apologies won't be upcoming

  • @thami.rubushe
    @thami.rubushe 8 месяцев назад +2

    Ya nee. Andile lost this one.

  • @davidclowes2280
    @davidclowes2280 9 месяцев назад +1

    I am tired of white monopoly capital. It is just monopoly capital. Black monopoly is worse. Countless examples!!!

  • @thapelomotsoeneng4897
    @thapelomotsoeneng4897 9 месяцев назад +1

    Mike why did you kept on interrupting Andile when he was speaking? Is it because he was spitting facts? I've never experienced you talking so much more than a guest in your interview

    • @mikesham3204
      @mikesham3204 9 месяцев назад

      Hi Thapelo, I do talk a lot, just ask my wife! It is hard to keep quiet in situations like this. I am not a journalist and this is a platform designed to make SA a better place for all of us. Thank you for watching.

    • @fanambatha1690
      @fanambatha1690 9 месяцев назад +1

      B'cos he s talking an infinite deal of nothing and he doesn't mind abt time

  • @rmanne7703
    @rmanne7703 8 месяцев назад +1

    What did they take from you? The land? Do you use it? Oh my God!

  • @mitchvsally9646
    @mitchvsally9646 2 месяца назад

    Some people are privileged and of course they won't accept it.

  • @cashandramara2867
    @cashandramara2867 9 месяцев назад +1

    Shame. His ignorance runs deep. Andile, go and put yourself through a short course on how the JSE works. Not with someone else's money, but with your own, otherwise you'll never appreciate it.

  • @davidclowes2280
    @davidclowes2280 9 месяцев назад +2

    Black people need to look inwards before crying victim. I watch their young males being sent to circumcision schools as decent respectful youngsters with a dream and countless returning as abusers of all sorts from women to substance. They won't even talk of their experiences. Society then has to beat them into some sort of functionality if they are still able to function to have them holding down a job by the age of 30. Please let's bring this into the light and stop walking on eggs around culture that creates systematic poverty and is taboo blaming everything but not looking at its self and its own flaws.

    • @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964
      @ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 9 месяцев назад

      That's rich coming from you when your White government had many programs to help your race get ahead. When a Black government tries the same for Black people so they can catch up you send your dogs like the Helen Suzman Foundation to challenge those programs in courts than you say we playing victim. We understand accusing us of playing victim is still part of your racist script