@@Ozymandias1 Are you kidding!? William Haig literally had two books in alphabetical order he'd bring to parliament and mad libs style he'd pick two random issues to throw at Tony Blair and unleash a fury attack of "where is the revenue from.... THE VAT TAX going to!" random combos In order to create maximum confusion in Blair. Some of the best parliament fights we've ever gotten.
@@agnel47 She didn't claim that he said that. She just pointed out the hypocrisy of caring more about the wealth gap instead of caring about how people are actually doing.
@@agnel47 No, he literally said it's worse off relatively for his constituents than it was in 1979, which is just a flat out lie. Everything else is statistical manipulation to serve a political purpose. Follow me here. In any time of prosperity, the gap between the rich and the poor widens because the poor can't get much more poor than nothing, so if the poor stay on the relatively low end of wealth - and I emphasize relative because poor in Africa and poor in Britain are two entirely different kinds of poor and the poor in Africa are much closer to the rich than the poor in Britain to their respective rich - but the rich are capable of creating a more abundant production of wealth than previously, you create a widened gap of what is possible, and it is very far from the case that increasing the gap is dishonorable or immoral; it is very often the opposite if such a thing can create jobs and secure necessities for more people than a previous time. In other words, you essentially are always arguing for a reduction in the total abundance of a nation, region or system when you are arguing for a gap reduction from rich and poor in a capitalist free market, and when you do that, you are definitely always arguing for the rich to be poorer, which makes the poor yet poorer still. It's just hard to recognize that until you unpack the sewage crust that is the "wage gap" statistic. What you call those who prosper from capitalism without becoming rich is in fact the middle-class. What you call those who for one reason or another fail to assimilate into the system are the poor, and surely they need help all the same as they are people who simply are not succeeding for one reason or another. The problem with comparing it to socialism is that the rich in capitalism can be compelled to pay greater amounts, and they can more than absorb such costs with free market principles, and in doing so can absolve much of the burden from the poor without ever having to directly offer them charity, but in socialism they cannot be compelled to pay greater amounts because the rich in socialism are those who govern themselves, and they will not dictate to themselves lesser means. They can only dictate to others, but inevitably they will nationalize, socialize or whateverize a business and essentially make it owned by the government, until there is no middle man to dictate, at which point collapse is inevitable due to the hubris inherent in all human governance systems.
I normally dislike the throwing around of gender and identity politics around for clout... but I'm not ignorant to the fact that it must have taken courage and unshakeable will on Mrs Thatcher's part to as you say, hold her own in a room of men in that era especially. Kudos to her and you for bringing that up.
A narcissist surrounded by yes men kept in power by a sycophantic media and a disorganised fragmented opposition. She couldn't have asked for it easier
@Cian McCabe "cultural backwash from the states" this shit started in Germany/France and has spread to the whole of the west from marxism to postmodernism they have spread like cancer I swear any idea spoken in german is by default a bad idea
I think it’s more this comes from era where people could disagree with each other and not think the other person was evil/bigoted/retarded for having a different opinion.
This was 30 years ago, when it was ok to hold a different opinion to the Left without being called a Nazi, and both sides could shake hands after a debate.
This was ALSO Americas Congress before the radical leftists and their media shills took to destroying ANYONE who didn't go along with them. The ones who stood for truth, didn't do enough to STOP the traitors who wanted ALL of our destruction,.so they could have their "one world government".......which will destroy EVERY single country. We don't WANT to be a " global society" with a "one man leader dictator". He will NOT have ANYONE but himself to answer to, and THAT is dangerous.
@@dede4004 left and right fucked up this world hand in hand, no side is innocent in this matter, both have been radicalized and emotions have taken over common sense. Both sides operate with mass hysteria, one side threatens with global warming, the other with migration. Both are real problems, but they only use them to gain political advantage and don't really want solutions. I pray that moderate politicians take back the control on both sides, otherwise our world is pretty much doomed.
@@82habbal30 The leftists are full blown socialists, which is the absolute worst of the sides. The death count of socialist policies in the past hundred years alone are already in the hundreds of millions. Capitalism related deaths doesn't even come close.
They still do all the time in UK, in the US the moment University professors started teaching that words equal violence and their weak-minded students believe it, it was all over...
They are all having a laugh here because she's just announced she is stepping down as PM. Most outgoing PMs have this kind of banter. The idea that they weren't as c*ntish to each other back then as they are now is a myth.
Socialism needs to be shot down with ill humor. Look at what Hilter did with socialism. It is a tool of war and conquest which fascists use to seize power and step into communism.
Honestly though, why can't Europe be a federative republic? It would be the richest, most powerful nation on the planet. Frankly, we talk so much about the rise of China, but how did they do it? By building a united "civilization state" out of two billion people. And now they seem poised to define the next century, while Europe is again torn by petty nationalistic squabbles.
@@damshek lol no, european union is effectively in a civil war already, and the conflict grows which each more authoritarian step, making it federaation would reasult in total colapse of it and id happily contribute, as a czech i wouldnt stand one filthy french in my country as my peer
I must agree with you, Miki. The sooner the undemocratic edifice that is the EU collapses, the better it will be for the rest of us (which of us wants to see a fourth reich) . I'm a proud Briton who likes his European neighbours, but doesn't want to be dictated to by them. Incidentally, describing the French as 'filthy' might be a bit strong, old chap. Best wishes, SeriousCuillin.
Honestly I dont care what you think of her politically but the way thatcher was able to handle herself doing battle with these men, both within her party and the opposition is admirable, especially when you remember this was the 1980s and that there were no other female cabinet ministers aside from a brief stint from 1981-3. She never made herself a victim. She never complained about "the patriarchy" or "sexism". She took the hand she was dealt and worked tirelessly to build herself up.
Absolutely true, she was at least the equal of any male politician at the time and quite often far superior. Love or loathe her you have to respect her.
@@globalist1990 yet, you are here? She was very well respected by other global leaders, held herself with dignity and was an ambassador for the UK. Is this true for any pm since? I can't remember any! She handled herself pretty well in my opinion
@@kingsrd1 the witch is dead. Sid Vicious did more for the UK outside the country than her. Do you mean all the greedy ghouls that would gladly be bumed to get a nod of approval from her?
Being a horrible person doesn’t make you strong, it makes you weak. Having the guts to stand up to what is put there by billionaire overlords to keep the masses down and say no to oppression and poverty is strength. Funnily enough, Thatcher doesn’t represent feminism or strong and independent women as many in this comments section seem to think. She represents a woman who is a member of the establishment, doing what the establishment want, while disguising how sexist the establishment really is. She was a good puppet really (both in real form and in her Spitting Image form). That’s an utmost sign of weakness, wouldn’t you say?
@@SH-ii6uo nope! Genuine right wing politician, deep in her heart, well aware of her cause and responsabilities. She was great because of her integrity and ambition without any of feminist of sexist bullshit flags that today hide incompetence. She was earning respect everywhere, including Russia despite her fight against the left. A true politician understands responsabilities, risks, sacrifices and has a vision. The ones who think they can put equal everywhere or, shouting bs and things like "he works because he is a white man" and other crap like nowadays, that "politician" is just fishing for stupidity, getying some votes and will never get things done well. I am very much against feminism for example and I have to tell you I bow to this woman. And that, not because she is "impressive as a woman" in politics, no, but because she was exactly what she had to be to fill up her positions - an excellent politician
SH99 She rebuilt the country from when it was one of the worst economy’s modern U.K. has ever seen to one of the best economy’s modern U.K. has ever seen. Isn’t that a sign of strength?
@@smellslikethinice1107 The only people who resented her were lifetime losers who never bothered to make something of themselves and expected others to rescue them. Envy is a bitch isn’t it.
You do realize what she is saying right? She is giving a horrible debate that makes no logical sense. The wealth distribution is the largest problem with Western society, and some of the socialist policies will ease the gap. The poor will not get poorer, they will just have more opportunities to obtain wealth and will have more social services. This will be paid by the government through taxation on the top 10%.
@@carlosb1 Absolutely right! she was never a feminist she see's people not males/females, bame or anything else, in fact she was not liked by feminist's one bit, she did take the free milk off the school children though :(
@A Cuba isn’t entirely a mixed economy which is what I would suggest. I’m saying adopting SOME socialist policies, not all. A mixed economy between socialism and capitalism is entirely beneficial
@@altt-check1-2 literally has no effect. Treaty of Lisbon ratified 2007, UK was in the EU in 2022, UK was still using the pound 15 years after treaty was signed. The pound was never going to be eliminated while the UK was (and is) still the home of one of the most important financial cities in the world. The only reason the pound if powerful at all is because of London and it’s use as the main forex trading city in the world. Nearly 40% of all currency trading happens in London. That’s twice as much as the next largest city, New York. London trades more Euros than every other European city combined. This is why the pound wasn’t going to disappear, not until the UK becomes too small to make an impact on it: own, which Brexit has actually helped accelerate.
@@0927kira Simply put, it's a way for the EU government to sneak in and start taking over member states, effectively taking away their sovereignty and creating a federal government to rule all members. 1 government, 1 currency, 1 Army etc... just like they are trying to do now and the reason I voted to leave. Pretty much like Hitler, but without the bloodshed.
Yeah, she also predicted that Germany would have a place of power in Europe after reunification. It's why she asked the Soviets to station more troops in East Germany and tighten their control on the country.
She was su utterly narrow minded and stupid in regards to Europe. She never understood that a many reasons Europe can only survive qhen united and acting accordingly. She was a nationalist, ideologist, and deliberstely always split society and accelerated the moral and economical decline of tbe Uk.
Sdm 9137 She roasted nobody. Corbyn was around at this time and did on multiple occasions give her a hard time. Thatcher was a bitch and that’s all she’ll ever be. She didn’t roast anyone, she was just horrible and when a better argument was presented, she wouldn’t accept it and instead resorted to the kind of response more comprehensible to the lower minded Tory thralls who still sit there and clap like seals at her, without understanding how silly and school playground level the response really is. She put words in people’s mouths, presented no facts, and merely insulted people with no basis.
Thatcher expanded the middle Class, saved Manufactoring, saved democracy, helped end Commufacism, lowered a decade of poverty causing inflation. Thatcher was as cut above every other politican the UK has ever had.
Damn right. Thatcher was supremely intelligent and had grit. What I would give to see a modern woman of prominence now. Kamala is the BEST the left had in their shallow quiver. By the way, Kamala means "horrible" in Finnish.
I am writing this in 2024 and if ever there was a woman to admire and respect and have as a role model it was Margaret Thatcher. What a magnificent lady. Her wit was unparalleled and she never skipped a beat. She was unphased by the challenge and returned in kind. Thatcher knew what she stood for - a conviction politician. We don’t seem to have quality politicians anymore, with depth and intelligence.
It's required in the rules. An ordinary Member of the House of Commons is referred to verbally as "the honourable." If a barrister (a courtroom lawyer) he is called "the honourable and learned". If a veteran (or current member of the armed services) "the honourable and gallant". If a member of the clergy "the hounourable and reverend". If a member of the Cabinet (or of the opposition's Shadow Cabinet) or in some other way a member of the Privy Council he is "the right honourable". In the House of Lords, the three lower ranks (earl, viscount, baron) are "the right honourable", the next highest (marquess) is a "most honourable", and the top rank (duke) is a "most noble".
As someone coming from a post-Soviet East European state I have a lot of respect for a stance she took, this is what we looked up to when we wanted to join the West not spineless clowns and socialists we see today
A simple illustration: Start: poor 10, rich 50, gap 40 Finish: poor 30, rich 150, gap 120 Socialist: "The poor are 3x poorer!" Thatcher: "The poor are 3x richer!"
KalonOrdona2 If cost of living: start 20, finish 60 Then, start gap 10, finish gap 30 The poor are 3 x poorer Not a socialist, but society cannot advance if the less well off are left behind. She had some good ideas, but she went far too far!!
She's mischaracterizing the argument deliberately. Their gripe is clearly about the inequal distribution of the wealth, they aren't maligning wealth growth, but that the overwhelming majority of it is going to an overwhelming minority of Britons.
I love the British parliament. They're basically insulting each other but they're having a good laugh about it at the same time. Contrast this with the US Congress, which is loaded with a bunch of prima donnas who take offense at the slightest suggestion they might be wrong about something.
Try the parliament of South Africa.... its a total joke!!! THIS, this is politics! anc,eff, da, all of them, and if I may quote Boris..... "a bunch of Supine invertebrate protoplasmic jellies,” ...
Stormwatch153 Yet countries such as Greece, Republic of Ireland, Spain and Italy are losing out massively to the single currency. Exchange rate means nothing - it constantly fluctuates. Once Britain leaves the European Union the pound will mostly likely gain more again on the Euro.
Appart from being semicircular, the atmosphere is much more negative here, as debates are basically personal attacks between the different parties, instead of actually discussing important stuff. Also, turns are much longer here, which leads to the politicians just dismissing the interesting and more controversial questions, in order to focus on throwing shit back to the other groups.
I love the way she laughed when they said ‘Nah she’s gonna be the Governor’ and both parties are laughing together. It’s so much better than the Parliament nowadays.
Regardless of what you think of Thatcher’s policies, she’s one outstanding speaker. She’s the type of person who could say the most ridiculous thing but she says it with so much passion, inspiration (and a bit of humour) that I’d agree with her. No wonder she was considered the most powerful woman in the world
I think the exact opposite is the case, I totally agree with her political positions, but when I hear her speak she really sound to me like a person I would never said any trust into she speaks so loud and so aggressive as if she would have no self-control, and it seems to me that she does not have any ability to self reflecting as well
Wow you're a big fucking dumbass. I would agree with anyone who can succesfully convince and manipulate people! I am literally being manipulated and I love it!
eh if it was a debate where it wasnt about being in a room of people who agree with you but only logical arguments could be made instead of her strawmanning, i dont think she could debate any intellectual in the socialist world. She probably couldnt debate successfully just a post grad. She strawmanned the socialist argument then fed off the crowd the whole time.
@@yadadi4438 I think capitalism has run its course and did its job but it’s time to move past it. Socialism is the only real, viable answer we have right now but if something else is thought up then that would be fine. The underlining issue with capitalism is allowing for the same relationship we had back with slavery and feudalism to still be allowed and promoted. Slave/master, serf/lord, employee/employer. Same game, different name. It’s time to not allow abuse of labor and for everyone to get what they earned and worked for.
Troll Slayer she is the only reason your pound is not even lower that the Bulgarian coins because of her economic policies which attracted investors from all over the world
They rather keep the poor, poorer, as long as the richest don't get richer. This pattern of thought remains to this day. This woman is an inspiration to the 21st century
@@Freedomon832 Lmfao, I do see the truth: She was born into wealth, married into wealth and she was a criminal and warmonger. That's exactly why people like her should never be in power.
She has a point. Only the rich will get richer because of their resources and influences. The poor people can get out of poverty by striving and working hard without the assistants from the government.
@@Hjd10 lmao how is britains GDP doing ? How is your crappy military that was said to be "not fit for service and not capable of projecting power" your healthcare system is collapsing and half your country is striking 😂
Agree with her or not, she was indeed THE Iron Lady. If Hillary had even an ounce of the wit, conviction, and personal touch Lady Thatcher had maybe she would have won.
George Rothschild If hillary had the character of margaret thatcher, she wouldn't even be married to the person she was married to and therefore she would have never gotten as far as she did
I reject your view. Both are a result of their work ethic, and if she were not to marry Bill Clinton, who is to say she wouldn't marry another influential man? it's the mind set I believe. I do not believe if Hilary had the views of thatcher she would not be in politics or have a career, both were in politics and both were professional lawyers.
As an Irish Catholic patriot living 23 years in the U.K., I was still a teenager living in Rural Republic of Ireland when much beloved Mrs Thatcher was PM, but even then, I hugely respected her leadership and at age 53 now, over the decades, I’ve come to realise that she was correct on so many things that we see today - we sorely need a strong leader like her now in our times, as the beloved British people here in the U.K. are suffering hugely in so many ways, Tory & Labour alike 🇮🇪☘️🇬🇧❤️🙏
@ Ireland has become far worse than the U.K. in many respects since Covid and very soon, Ireland as a Sovereign nation state will collapse far sooner than the U.K. - my entire family in Ireland are totally brainwashed and indoctrinated as to the truth of what is really going on, as Ireland is more resembling the CCP and North Korea every day, with the Gardai resembling Nazi Stormtroopers
Mate whether its UK or Ireland our polticians are self serving cowards , her like with true conviction whether you liked her or hated her will not be seen in our life times ..
I absolutely love how the brits have their parliament set up, racous, loud, everyone laughs and cheers for what they like and boos what they dont, and even the prime minister sits down amongst her peers and others ask her and each other direct questions and interject and everybody sits close so as to have a flowing dialogue, really good show of democracy and being able to have your voice heard, yall limeys keep it up here here i say!
Love your comment but feel compelled to point out a minor error in your comment. Britain is not a democracy. It is legally a constitutional monarchy that is in essence a constitutional republic. America is also not a democracy but a constitutional republic.
+Donald Grab them by the pussy Trump - You're statement, that *_"American democracy is a joke"_*, is built on a false premise. America is not nor has it ever been a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. There's a critically significant difference between the two. One necessarily leads to a tyrannical majority oppressing the minority whilst the other is just about the best god damn way of avoiding such a heinous scenario. Furthermore, I'll hand you a blank check if you can find the word _"democracy"_ mentioned even once in the American declaration of independence or the American constitution.
Yall quit it with the arguin amongst each other, i will turn this comment around we'll head back to the house and everyone of yalls gettin a whippin, i mean it
I used to detest Maggie Thatcher but now I realize that she did more to help the poor out of poverty than all socialists and liberals and leftists put together. Socialism, communism, liberalism, leftism, whatever you call it, makes everyone poorer except politicians and dictators and civil servants and government apparatchiks. Neil Kinnock admitted that Thatcher had made the poor richer than ever and helped more people into the middle class than ever before. That's why Tony Blair adopted New Labour which decided to punish working class Brits who abandoned socialism by replacing us with mass immigration.
That's a loot of bullshit, they would be richer either way, the world was getting richer as a whole at that time. Anyways, socialism in norway and sweden prove her wrong.
BountyHunter7520 norway and sweden are socialist, and it's called the nordic model of socialism, use wikipedia at least, why do you need internet for anyways
lunghile theodore Because Margaret Thatcher is distorting the truth. Pure and simple. Socialism has never made people poor, it made some people poorer but all of the people generally richer by narrowing the living standard gap. warriorprince101010 Binding up Socialism and Communism with Fascism and monarchy shows your complete lack of even basic knowledge about this subject.
broadstreet21 strength for what purpose and reason from what perspective though? I can’t get over how the British idolise a couple of her character traits and completely ignore the horrible politics that she championed!
I grant the part of the Soviets and America , the war could not have been won without their assistance, but Sir Winston was a touchstone for the determination of the British people. Somehow I think neither of us were there at the time and can only judge through the prism of history.
Is she a feminist? No. Is she a good female PM? No. She is a good PM, that’s it, she doesn’t represent feminists. She shows what it should look like to be a PM.
Ironically, she's the most feminist leader, because she doesn't think she's any different than a regular PM for being a woman. That's what true feminism is about, not whatever Hillary Clinton was doing.
It was her last day in parliament so she had a full house. A formidable woman whether you liked her or not. Back in the day it was Reagan & Thatcher. Very soon it will be Boris & Kamala 🥱
She saw where things were going, right before they started. A germany to decide for all Europe, economically or politically. Be it that you have to accept an economical change, or accept 10 k immigrants.
Dr B, Yes! She would've been pro-Brexit! She saw the issues already way back then! She would've been strongly pro-trade, but she saw what the EU was turning into! Her going against the EU is probably one of the reasons she was forced out in 1990.
@@lukek1949 Her vision for a great country made modern UK a real powerful economy and many people understood that. Your is a solid argument against commies and SJWs conspiracy theory between AI and obscure forces creating the Brexit, lke this peach of an article. www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy
@@_o..o_1871 Romanians should build their country to be a place for a better life. Not to run to other countries and then say nothing changed in their home country. Working people can move to US from Europe too without being in a Union. The only thing needed is the for them to be needed there.
Notice when the "honorable gentleman" says that the poor are "relatively much poorer off than in 1979" his use of the word RELATIVELY. Relative to what? Not to their incomes before she took office (because they'd gone up) but relative to the income of the rich. Thatcher is dead on. It's not compassion for the poor that motivates him, it's hatred of the rich.
Maybe you should say that to the north of England, to Wales, to Scotland and to the Irish in the North. She devastated the economy and shut down industries that made us a manufacturing powerhouse. The guy who was speaking was a rich man himself who surrounds himself with rich people. He was hardly an ordinary man or a man who hates the rich.
@@Sawrattan That is true, but I and many of us do not hate rich people. In fact I applaud people who have worked hard their entire life and have become millionaires or billionaires. We just hate it when the rich come into power and make everything worse for the poor and better for the rich.
The one honest thing she did was die, and then she made sure she wouldn't pay for her funeral. She was as thick as 2 short planks and as tight as a shark's arse.
Can you imagine how she would have dealt with today’s politicians. Growing up Thatcher was a figure of contempt where I lived, but as the years go by its true that her star shines brighter and brighter!
"Well, she's going to be the governor...!" What a witty line. THEN Thatcher's response of, "What a good idea!", made the whole thing 10x better. She was truly naturally born to politics, "I'm enjoying this!" really says it all. Each question thrown at her wasn't beat around the bush but answered with due diligence and intelligence. Even her opponents can recognize this. The U.K. desperately needs a Prime Minister with a sense of duty to the nation as, as she did ultimately course-correct the U.K.'s downward spiral. Mind you, the Conservative Party in the U.K. nowadays is a complete shadow of its former self, how disappointing given that they boast the likes of Churchill & Thatcher.
Joel Skelley " "She's gonna be the governor." Yes, that remark broke the tension in the House immediately. I also had the oddest feeling at the time that Dennis S actually LIKED Maggie as a person (and vice-versa) - as much as he DESPISED her party.
@@marvinc999 Well, it is known that, despite their big differences in policy (New Labour vs. democratic socialism), Dennis Skinner always liked Tony Blair and he had even gave him some tips on rhetorical skills. So yes, it's definitely possible that he also liked Maggie.
Jim Callaghan apparently one said to her "I must congratulate the Right Honourable Lady for being the only man in her cabinet." Thatcher replied "That's one more man than you've got in yours"
Although I know many people hated her because of some of her policies. I actually like her as a person and as a politician, her poise, her stature, her speech, the way she was quick to think on her feet, the way when she argued her points she didn't just disprove her opponents she demolished them. She is one strong woman that you just don't mess with.
I agree. What would Lady Thatcher have to say about Brexit? What would Sir Winston Churchil have to say to the un-elected EU Commission, based in Brussels, and governed from Germany? I think they would be blunt, brief, and to the point.
Same here, although Thatcherism is a short-term based ideology that has proven itself wrong (according to me at least), she was an incredible and respectable woman. I believe that it is her all feminists would follow. Thatcher took a man's world and made it listen to her more than to any man, instead of complaining for year about bras and oppression like the Swedish feminist "experts" of the 70's 80s and till this day. I would have loved to know this incredible woman in person, and she certainly is an inspiration to me, although I am a man
al43811 I disagree that it is short term. Given unlimited time/power Thatcherism would end up looking somewhat similar to how we ran things in Hong Kong. Is that short term?
Whatever people may think of Mrs Thatcher... she was a lady of remarkable intellect and such a fantastic speaker.. parliament was so good and entertaining...Thank goodness for recordings.
She was no intellect. Average intelligence but incredibly repetitive in her message. Like Hitler, she said the same thing over and over again, until people believed it to be true. Unlike Hitler nobody in Britain is bigger than the establishment and when she started to think that she was invincible she was gone.
@staytunedfor have you ever lived in a Communist country? I bet you don't, go live in Cuba or North Korea for a year and then tell me you still want Communism
Her argument in opposition to a single European currency was so prescient, and no person should question her understanding of what was best for England.
Long before Margaret's rise to power, many of us traditional men knew that women could lead effectively. I would like to thank her for proving it conclusively.
@@davidkonevky7372 To me, “rise to power” is generally associated with a dictator, mainly because it’s so often used in that context (as in “Hitler’s rise to power”, “Stalin’s rise to power” etc)
@@henrybarber288 I mean, I understand that, but if you used it with someone that's not a dictator, I wouldn't necessarily assume that the person in question is being put on a negative light
Back when there was manners in politics, all the same people and loves just respected different views. Nobody and I mean nobody would intimidate this brave decent Lady.
That's not what he was saying at all. He was saying the poor ARE poorer since she took office, and the rich are richer. She built a red herring and ran with it.
Britain never lost its own country ffs. It had the cushiest deal in the whole of the EU. All the benefits and none of the downsides. Not one thing could be forced upon the uk by the EU. People are so easily manipulated by the propaganda of wealth.
How incredibly British! High energy, high risk but exceedingly classy and witty and restrained. Canadian politics are dumb and fake and so provincial compared to this. And what a force she was, standing up there commanding attention and staying on top. Remarkable! No government is this competent anymore.
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The British Parliament has the same energy as my local pub.
My exact thought
yeah like wtf is that i didnt expect it to be like this
Pub in medieval ages are place to exchange thought between scholars
@@ThunderMeow-r1q yup and then get into a good fight afterward.
If you've ever seen how cheap the Commons bar prices are then you'd see why!
I love the “honorable gentleman” before the insults. So british.
Haha it’s because you’re not allowed to reference someone in a rude way in parliament so it is customary to call someone the honourable gentleman
@@sheawineland1445 The antithesis is funny.
All parlaiments use that terminology. Its just procedure.
Unfortunately "to the right fuckwad of a gronk opposite i say..." just doesnt fly.
@@assajventress3204 oh man, if only it did!
Kinda like, “With all do respect. . .”
I like how British politicians aren’t afraid to laugh.
Yes even Dennis Skinner had a laugh it was fun back then not like now !
& get sniffed up in the toilets of parliament and split the country’s wealth between them gotta love the cheek
Watch the German Bundestag, they have a lot of fun there as well, thanks to the clowns of the AfD
Aren’t or weren’t?
@@Koshak87 I’ve never lived in the UK, so 🤷♂️
How they managed the insults without any profanities is beyond me.
Brits
"Unparliamentary language" is strictly forbidden in the House of Commons.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unparliamentary_language
@@d.esanchez3351no it’s just called having a vocabulary
Education.
@@1984isnotamanual pffft, there is no interjection like an expletive.
British Parliament looked pretty fun before the 2000s.
Still being a funny mess
Before 1997 to be precise.
AvariceUntied of course you say that
@@azark101 They're not as wholesome as this.
@@Ozymandias1 Are you kidding!? William Haig literally had two books in alphabetical order he'd bring to parliament and mad libs style he'd pick two random issues to throw at Tony Blair and unleash a fury attack of "where is the revenue from.... THE VAT TAX going to!" random combos In order to create maximum confusion in Blair. Some of the best parliament fights we've ever gotten.
"So long as the gap is smaller, they'd rather have the poor poorer." She would have been great on Twitter.
But that's is not what the guy said. He was literally saying the gap between rich and poor has widened.
Mrs. Thatcher very slyly twisted his words.
@@agnel47 She didn't claim that he said that. She just pointed out the hypocrisy of caring more about the wealth gap instead of caring about how people are actually doing.
@@BjornMoren bruh, how did she know "he didn't really care".
The man simply pointed out a fact and she replied with nonsense.
@@agnel47 I guess it had been a long standing issue, debated to death, and she was tired of it. By the way, it still goes on to this day.
@@agnel47 No, he literally said it's worse off relatively for his constituents than it was in 1979, which is just a flat out lie. Everything else is statistical manipulation to serve a political purpose. Follow me here. In any time of prosperity, the gap between the rich and the poor widens because the poor can't get much more poor than nothing, so if the poor stay on the relatively low end of wealth - and I emphasize relative because poor in Africa and poor in Britain are two entirely different kinds of poor and the poor in Africa are much closer to the rich than the poor in Britain to their respective rich - but the rich are capable of creating a more abundant production of wealth than previously, you create a widened gap of what is possible, and it is very far from the case that increasing the gap is dishonorable or immoral; it is very often the opposite if such a thing can create jobs and secure necessities for more people than a previous time.
In other words, you essentially are always arguing for a reduction in the total abundance of a nation, region or system when you are arguing for a gap reduction from rich and poor in a capitalist free market, and when you do that, you are definitely always arguing for the rich to be poorer, which makes the poor yet poorer still. It's just hard to recognize that until you unpack the sewage crust that is the "wage gap" statistic. What you call those who prosper from capitalism without becoming rich is in fact the middle-class. What you call those who for one reason or another fail to assimilate into the system are the poor, and surely they need help all the same as they are people who simply are not succeeding for one reason or another.
The problem with comparing it to socialism is that the rich in capitalism can be compelled to pay greater amounts, and they can more than absorb such costs with free market principles, and in doing so can absolve much of the burden from the poor without ever having to directly offer them charity, but in socialism they cannot be compelled to pay greater amounts because the rich in socialism are those who govern themselves, and they will not dictate to themselves lesser means. They can only dictate to others, but inevitably they will nationalize, socialize or whateverize a business and essentially make it owned by the government, until there is no middle man to dictate, at which point collapse is inevitable due to the hubris inherent in all human governance systems.
My god this woman was a legend. Imagine if feminists made Thatcher their icon instead of Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama.
What a Joke and disgust those people are.
You realize hillary Clinton and Margaret thratcher are literally politically aligned
@@myklfan9738 fuck no
lool, michelle obama is a man, he is a transvestite. dont get fooled
Well, she's British, she's against socialism, and most important of all, she is... dead.
Ladies and gentlemen, The first female British Prime Minister. She has more balls than any of the men in that room.
Yoshi but kage Kira. You are right, that's the reason she was called "The Iron Lady".
@@danielherbozo6598 as I understand the nickname was not meant as a compliment!
@@duncanmills391 The fact is, she is admirable!
@@danielherbozo6598 totally agree!
Ah yes because that's important and makes her a better politician.
Bollocks
She held her own in that room full of men. Regardless of her politics she was an amazing speaker and presence.
I normally dislike the throwing around of gender and identity politics around for clout... but I'm not ignorant to the fact that it must have taken courage and unshakeable will on Mrs Thatcher's part to as you say, hold her own in a room of men in that era especially. Kudos to her and you for bringing that up.
do you understand you're talking about Margaret Thatcher? that lady went through wars: is she gonna scared "because they're men"?!?!?!?!?
Maggie would not have approved of this sentiment
A narcissist surrounded by yes men kept in power by a sycophantic media and a disorganised fragmented opposition. She couldn't have asked for it easier
"They can call me whatever they like"
When politics was still Charming even though the whole room hated each other, they didn't really show it, they just joked about it
@Cian McCabe ;- You clearly live on another planet - your own, in a galaxy far, far away...!!!!
When you've seen everything or atleast heard everything, humour is all you have. It's a good sign, no leftist would understand.
@Cian McCabe "cultural backwash from the states" this shit started in Germany/France and has spread to the whole of the west from marxism to postmodernism they have spread like cancer
I swear any idea spoken in german is by default a bad idea
No, they definitely showed it. Thatcher definitely did.
I think it’s more this comes from era where people could disagree with each other and not think the other person was evil/bigoted/retarded for having a different opinion.
British politics seems so fun, like every single person just yells and laughs at shit
This was 30 years ago, when it was ok to hold a different opinion to the Left without being called a Nazi, and both sides could shake hands after a debate.
This was ALSO Americas Congress before the radical leftists and their media shills took to destroying ANYONE who didn't go along with them. The ones who stood for truth, didn't do enough to STOP the traitors who wanted ALL of our destruction,.so they could have their "one world government".......which will destroy EVERY single country. We don't WANT to be a " global society" with a "one man leader dictator". He will NOT have ANYONE but himself to answer to, and THAT is dangerous.
@@dede4004 left and right fucked up this world hand in hand, no side is innocent in this matter, both have been radicalized and emotions have taken over common sense. Both sides operate with mass hysteria, one side threatens with global warming, the other with migration. Both are real problems, but they only use them to gain political advantage and don't really want solutions. I pray that moderate politicians take back the control on both sides, otherwise our world is pretty much doomed.
@@82habbal30 The leftists are full blown socialists, which is the absolute worst of the sides. The death count of socialist policies in the past hundred years alone are already in the hundreds of millions. Capitalism related deaths doesn't even come close.
@@thathandsomedevil0828 yet another moron who has his own definition for what socialism is...
Back then when civil discourse actually happened and opposite parties could share humor and intellectual exchange.
Indeed, love when Thatcher can’t stop laughing when someone that she is going to be the governor of some european financial institution.
When England was Caucasian 😅
Imagine if politicians today could joke and laugh about their differences like they’re doing here
But liberals can’t take a joke.
They still do all the time in UK, in the US the moment University professors started teaching that words equal violence and their weak-minded students believe it, it was all over...
They are all having a laugh here because she's just announced she is stepping down as PM. Most outgoing PMs have this kind of banter. The idea that they weren't as c*ntish to each other back then as they are now is a myth.
Make no mistake, this lot had some VERY heated arguments at times. This is a one off moment that's laced with quipperies and banter.
Socialism needs to be shot down with ill humor. Look at what Hilter did with socialism. It is a tool of war and conquest which fascists use to seize power and step into communism.
“A single Euro currency is a federal Europe by the back door”
Like her or loathe her, she was a smart lady
and she was right.. isn't that what happened?
Hristo Bachvarov bingo. As I say, whether you like or loathe her, no one can deny that she could see what was going to happen. Even back in 1990
Honestly though, why can't Europe be a federative republic? It would be the richest, most powerful nation on the planet.
Frankly, we talk so much about the rise of China, but how did they do it? By building a united "civilization state" out of two billion people. And now they seem poised to define the next century, while Europe is again torn by petty nationalistic squabbles.
@@damshek lol no, european union is effectively in a civil war already, and the conflict grows which each more authoritarian step, making it federaation would reasult in total colapse of it and id happily contribute, as a czech i wouldnt stand one filthy french in my country as my peer
I must agree with you, Miki. The sooner the undemocratic edifice that is the EU collapses, the better it will be for the rest of us (which of us wants to see a fourth reich) . I'm a proud Briton who likes his European neighbours, but doesn't want to be dictated to by them. Incidentally, describing the French as 'filthy' might be a bit strong, old chap. Best wishes, SeriousCuillin.
This woman has been either adored or hated. One fact remains : she was a BOSS.
i hate her guts but she was tough as old boots. never backed down
in that room she had the biggest dick
lean towards hating her, but she earned her nickname and she wore it well
So was Hitler, Stalin & Pol Pot! What's your point?
@CAMPOS Diego - I HATED that bastard, Thatcher, for being more of a FASCIST politician in her country because of her conservative policies!
Honestly I dont care what you think of her politically but the way thatcher was able to handle herself doing battle with these men, both within her party and the opposition is admirable, especially when you remember this was the 1980s and that there were no other female cabinet ministers aside from a brief stint from 1981-3.
She never made herself a victim. She never complained about "the patriarchy" or "sexism". She took the hand she was dealt and worked tirelessly to build herself up.
Absolutely true, she was at least the equal of any male politician at the time and quite often far superior.
Love or loathe her you have to respect her.
Who tf cares about how a politician handles themselves. The policies is what matters. I get my entertainment from elsewhere, thanks.
@@globalist1990 yet, you are here? She was very well respected by other global leaders, held herself with dignity and was an ambassador for the UK.
Is this true for any pm since? I can't remember any!
She handled herself pretty well in my opinion
@@kingsrd1 the witch is dead. Sid Vicious did more for the UK outside the country than her. Do you mean all the greedy ghouls that would gladly be bumed to get a nod of approval from her?
So true, compare that to Sturgeon nowadays...
This is what a strong person looks like, not like many today bringing out their sex or race as an excuse when men laugh at them.
Meh, she's putting words in his mouth. You see that as strength, for me it's weakness.
Being a horrible person doesn’t make you strong, it makes you weak. Having the guts to stand up to what is put there by billionaire overlords to keep the masses down and say no to oppression and poverty is strength. Funnily enough, Thatcher doesn’t represent feminism or strong and independent women as many in this comments section seem to think. She represents a woman who is a member of the establishment, doing what the establishment want, while disguising how sexist the establishment really is. She was a good puppet really (both in real form and in her Spitting Image form). That’s an utmost sign of weakness, wouldn’t you say?
@@SH-ii6uo nope! Genuine right wing politician, deep in her heart, well aware of her cause and responsabilities. She was great because of her integrity and ambition without any of feminist of sexist bullshit flags that today hide incompetence. She was earning respect everywhere, including Russia despite her fight against the left. A true politician understands responsabilities, risks, sacrifices and has a vision. The ones who think they can put equal everywhere or, shouting bs and things like "he works because he is a white man" and other crap like nowadays, that "politician" is just fishing for stupidity, getying some votes and will never get things done well.
I am very much against feminism for example and I have to tell you I bow to this woman. And that, not because she is "impressive as a woman" in politics, no, but because she was exactly what she had to be to fill up her positions - an excellent politician
You are right brotha! Strong intelligent lady
SH99 She rebuilt the country from when it was one of the worst economy’s modern U.K. has ever seen to one of the best economy’s modern U.K. has ever seen. Isn’t that a sign of strength?
"I'm enjoying this" I truly believe she did.
@@smellslikethinice1107 The only people who resented her were lifetime losers who never bothered to make something of themselves and expected others to rescue them. Envy is a bitch isn’t it.
She looks so natural, strong woman.
She's pissed
Hell yeah she did, she was an orator through and through.
I'm enjoying her speech, whatever she says; there's something with her convinient 'aura' of speech: coinfidence, humor and making clear her points...
Look at that scene. One single woman against all those men. Love her or hate her, she knew how to handle every single one of them.
This has nothing to do with her being a woman. If a person is qualified and has rational thought that person will know how to handle opposing views.
You do realize what she is saying right? She is giving a horrible debate that makes no logical sense. The wealth distribution is the largest problem with Western society, and some of the socialist policies will ease the gap. The poor will not get poorer, they will just have more opportunities to obtain wealth and will have more social services. This will be paid by the government through taxation on the top 10%.
@@carlosb1 hear, hear
@@carlosb1 Absolutely right! she was never a feminist she see's people not males/females, bame or anything else, in fact she was not liked by feminist's one bit, she did take the free milk off the school children though :(
@A Cuba isn’t entirely a mixed economy which is what I would suggest. I’m saying adopting SOME socialist policies, not all. A mixed economy between socialism and capitalism is entirely beneficial
"no single currency"..... then it happened later..... and then there was Brexit....which proved that she was correct.
The UK was Never part of the single currency.
@@mazibukomailIt was going to be if we voted to stay
@@EyeOfTheCat2002no it wasn’t. The GBP is incredibly powerful, by voting to stay nothing would have changed.
@@elliotlewis9333 - no chance. Look up the treaty of Lisbon
@@altt-check1-2 literally has no effect. Treaty of Lisbon ratified 2007, UK was in the EU in 2022, UK was still using the pound 15 years after treaty was signed. The pound was never going to be eliminated while the UK was (and is) still the home of one of the most important financial cities in the world. The only reason the pound if powerful at all is because of London and it’s use as the main forex trading city in the world. Nearly 40% of all currency trading happens in London. That’s twice as much as the next largest city, New York. London trades more Euros than every other European city combined. This is why the pound wasn’t going to disappear, not until the UK becomes too small to make an impact on it: own, which Brexit has actually helped accelerate.
A single currency is about “federal Europe by the back door” astonishing prophetic.
can someone explain me that sentence :( i dont understand it
@@0927kira Simply put, it's a way for the EU government to sneak in and start taking over member states, effectively taking away their sovereignty and creating a federal government to rule all members. 1 government, 1 currency, 1 Army etc... just like they are trying to do now and the reason I voted to leave. Pretty much like Hitler, but without the bloodshed.
@Cian McCabe the EU is the Fourth Reich.
Yeah, she also predicted that Germany would have a place of power in Europe after reunification. It's why she asked the Soviets to station more troops in East Germany and tighten their control on the country.
@@surfinbird84 European Federation = Hitler 👋👋👋
Oh my god, she was so right about Europe.
Yup. She was so "right". We love her for the fact that she was "right". 😉
everything turned out as she said. hopefully people learn before it gets worse.
@@naimilgandhi9060 Right in all meanings. Rightly right and economic right.
So she was Britain’s “Reagan”?
She was su utterly narrow minded and stupid in regards to Europe. She never understood that a many reasons Europe can only survive qhen united and acting accordingly.
She was a nationalist, ideologist, and deliberstely always split society and accelerated the moral and economical decline of tbe Uk.
Anyone else sent here a few decades in the future? I'm from 2020.
Guarantee we'll be talking about this in 2030 too
killerlightning - me too!!! Man, 89-90 was a great time!
How far we have fallen
@@flashevolflayor Impossible Wi-Fi doesn't exist in the 50's.
Sdm 9137 She roasted nobody. Corbyn was around at this time and did on multiple occasions give her a hard time. Thatcher was a bitch and that’s all she’ll ever be. She didn’t roast anyone, she was just horrible and when a better argument was presented, she wouldn’t accept it and instead resorted to the kind of response more comprehensible to the lower minded Tory thralls who still sit there and clap like seals at her, without understanding how silly and school playground level the response really is. She put words in people’s mouths, presented no facts, and merely insulted people with no basis.
'You could wipe the floor with these people" at the end. Made me laugh.
"You might not like her, but you've got to admit - Thatcher's got style"
Cian McCabe she wasn’t an aristocrat
She was da man, makes RR look like a square faced chipmunk.
*points finger*
"I understood that reference"
And the pure guts to go with it, what a sad load of pathetic politician,s we have now, to scared to speak up about anything that's really important.
The 'magician' of the British parliament.
Smartest thing Britain ever did was not adopt the Euro. She is a 100% right. EU is backdoor federalism.
wtf the eu made britain its bitch, its not your choice the eu is the best thing we've got
***** ok...
FutuVidbrawl
Only small minds can only see what is presented in front of them. Especially if it is failing.
hows federalism bad? i dont understand this stupid tendency to separate yourself from everybody on your tiny little ground
The Euro is now stronger than the £?
So why in God's name isn't she a Role Model to Feminist?
Because she's not a victim.
And because she's not a socialist.
Conservative.
This is a real female role model.
Regardless of politics, Thatcher took her stand and got results. Not that they all are perfect and great.
Because feminism is just a mask for Socialism and Communism.
Thatcher expanded the middle Class, saved Manufactoring, saved democracy, helped end Commufacism, lowered a decade of poverty causing inflation. Thatcher was as cut above every other politican the UK has ever had.
"she'd be the gov'nor!"
"- what a great idea!"
epic.
My dumb arse really heard gardener. LOL
Definitely! She turned the insult around and made a joke of it. Pure class.
@@garrett69 evil witch
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@@chop098 growl
There’s the woman feminists should be honouring
Thatcher had no time for feminism. She was about as womanly as Bernard Manning
If by feminism you mean Northern Irish death squads then yes your correct
@@padricbrady6775 ?????????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@petergreen2552 🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Handsome Sauce yet she was
Thatcher's last stand against socialism.
2.3 million people: Interesting.
Lol
Damn right. Thatcher was supremely intelligent and had grit. What I would give to see a modern woman of prominence now. Kamala is the BEST the left had in their shallow quiver. By the way, Kamala means "horrible" in Finnish.
@@swesleyc7 or lotus in sanskrit
@@swesleyc7 surely she has more african blood than indian blood
Already watched it when this was filmed
I am writing this in 2024 and if ever there was a woman to admire and respect and have as a role model it was Margaret Thatcher.
What a magnificent lady. Her wit was unparalleled and she never skipped a beat. She was unphased by the challenge and returned in kind.
Thatcher knew what she stood for - a conviction politician.
We don’t seem to have quality politicians anymore, with depth and intelligence.
She was the last true leader of Britain, everything she did advanced the lives of ALL people in Britain.
Say what you want but this lady had BALLS!!!
Had, my dude had
Before she betrayed us
Before she joined the corporatists
I love how they give a compliment of how honorable the other is before shredding them apart hahahaha
The Honourable is a title given to politicians after reaching a certain level of stature in Parliament. It's like having a Dr or Sir before your name.
It's required in the rules. An ordinary Member of the House of Commons is referred to verbally as "the honourable." If a barrister (a courtroom lawyer) he is called "the honourable and learned". If a veteran (or current member of the armed services) "the honourable and gallant". If a member of the clergy "the hounourable and reverend". If a member of the Cabinet (or of the opposition's Shadow Cabinet) or in some other way a member of the Privy Council he is "the right honourable".
In the House of Lords, the three lower ranks (earl, viscount, baron) are "the right honourable", the next highest (marquess) is a "most honourable", and the top rank (duke) is a "most noble".
Because your not directly allowed to reply to the person who has just spoke and who your answering. There is no one honourable in parliament today.
"you can wipe the floor with these people" LUL
As someone coming from a post-Soviet East European state I have a lot of respect for a stance she took, this is what we looked up to when we wanted to join the West not spineless clowns and socialists we see today
How'd that go LOL. Population decline and economies gutted. Have fun continuing to be low wage shitholes!
When the PM said anything: *british noises*
MP? as in Mine Primister?
@@MRGCProductions20996 As in Member of Parliament
Woah... your name is British these days! WTF 🤩
her manner of speaking and choice of words were extra extra extraordinary,
A simple illustration:
Start: poor 10, rich 50, gap 40
Finish: poor 30, rich 150, gap 120
Socialist: "The poor are 3x poorer!"
Thatcher: "The poor are 3x richer!"
KalonOrdona2
If cost of living: start 20, finish 60
Then, start gap 10, finish gap 30
The poor are 3 x poorer
Not a socialist, but society cannot advance if the less well off are left behind. She had some good ideas, but she went far too far!!
She's mischaracterizing the argument deliberately. Their gripe is clearly about the inequal distribution of the wealth, they aren't maligning wealth growth, but that the overwhelming majority of it is going to an overwhelming minority of Britons.
If economics were that simple... The gap between rich and poor grows exponentially and not linearly.
No matter how you try to sell it. Socialism doesn't work.
@@atxfinest20 I know right. Total waste of money social security, universal health care, and public education. Who'd want that?
She was such a good speaker , amazing lady.
"A single currency is a federal Europe through the back door." That's absolutely right, the euro is all about politics, not economics.
My country has no Euro and what I guess never will. Our politicians working hard to keep the country in poverty and devalue our currency 👏💩
And the Euro much stable, than the Pound
Poland still has the zwaty and its the most stable country economy in all of europe. Even during the 2008 recession. Google check me.
Don't even lie and think or say the euro makes or keeps european countrys stable.
@@PolishBehemoth I just Googled your claim. Eurozone inflation 1991-2020 average 1.9 % Polish zloti 3,1%average inflation.
I love the British parliament. They're basically insulting each other but they're having a good laugh about it at the same time. Contrast this with the US Congress, which is loaded with a bunch of prima donnas who take offense at the slightest suggestion they might be wrong about something.
If we had parliaments like Ukraine and South Korea we would actually see politicians fist fight :)
Parliament is designed specifically so that people still look and talk like people. US politics is like showbiz. Expensive and slick.
Try the parliament of South Africa.... its a total joke!!! THIS, this is politics!
anc,eff, da, all of them, and if I may quote Boris..... "a bunch of Supine invertebrate protoplasmic jellies,” ...
It's all about the wit. If you haven't a sense of humour, you will collapse in the House of Commons.
She already predicted the fate of the single currency, amazing.
Donald Lee No, she did not.
"Stormwatch153", is clearly not aware of the current situation of the Euro
You are not aware that Euro is 25% more worth than the Dollar and Pound lost almost 25% value to Euro since the Brexit. Think about it.
Stormwatch153 Yet countries such as Greece, Republic of Ireland, Spain and Italy are losing out massively to the single currency. Exchange rate means nothing - it constantly fluctuates. Once Britain leaves the European Union the pound will mostly likely gain more again on the Euro.
And you are an economic expert just like Nigel Farage, right?
she never had to say "I'm speaking," because she actually said things.
I fucking love the British parliament, I wish we had something like that in Spain. Long live Britain.
Thank you. We want this for Spain, too. You deserve it. Everyone does.
You don't have anything like this? How does it work in Spain?
Yes, the British parliament is truly great. I have been in the chamber, such an amazing place.
Appart from being semicircular, the atmosphere is much more negative here, as debates are basically personal attacks between the different parties, instead of actually discussing important stuff. Also, turns are much longer here, which leads to the politicians just dismissing the interesting and more controversial questions, in order to focus on throwing shit back to the other groups.
You must be joking
Me :Finishes The Crown season 4
RUclips algorithm: let's recommend this and show the guy how creepy we are!
I watched only a video about 👑 S4. And here we are.
Same !! 😂
They did her dirty, as we all knew they would. Nothing they produced about her was at all true to life besides GA's acting.
@@jmcknight00 fully agree with you!
Yup! 😂😳
I love the way she laughed when they said ‘Nah she’s gonna be the Governor’ and both parties are laughing together. It’s so much better than the Parliament nowadays.
Regardless of what you think of Thatcher’s policies, she’s one outstanding speaker. She’s the type of person who could say the most ridiculous thing but she says it with so much passion, inspiration (and a bit of humour) that I’d agree with her. No wonder she was considered the most powerful woman in the world
Except she's correct
I think the exact opposite is the case, I totally agree with her political positions, but when I hear her speak she really sound to me like a person I would never said any trust into she speaks so loud and so aggressive as if she would have no self-control, and it seems to me that she does not have any ability to self reflecting as well
Wow you're a big fucking dumbass. I would agree with anyone who can succesfully convince and manipulate people! I am literally being manipulated and I love it!
She was a dreadful public speaker. Clunking ... unsophisticated arguments. Her style would not pass today.@@shrekshyakhadka
Say what you want about thatcher she’d absolutely wreck you in an argument
Cameron was good at that too! Quick witty responses!
So very well said, sir!
eh if it was a debate where it wasnt about being in a room of people who agree with you but only logical arguments could be made instead of her strawmanning, i dont think she could debate any intellectual in the socialist world. She probably couldnt debate successfully just a post grad. She strawmanned the socialist argument then fed off the crowd the whole time.
@@florida12341000 you think socialism is better than capitalism?
@@yadadi4438 I think capitalism has run its course and did its job but it’s time to move past it. Socialism is the only real, viable answer we have right now but if something else is thought up then that would be fine. The underlining issue with capitalism is allowing for the same relationship we had back with slavery and feudalism to still be allowed and promoted. Slave/master, serf/lord, employee/employer. Same game, different name. It’s time to not allow abuse of labor and for everyone to get what they earned and worked for.
I really like that despite being political adversaries they could still make witty jokes and all laugh together. Today I don’t see that.
@Tom Smith We pay for the club's utility bills.
Because there is an assault on conservative views it is not funny anymore.
@@lazpolar72 if the view is that children deserve to starve for being working class then they deserve to be attacked
because we are under attack
People can say what they like about Thatcher, at the end of the day she could give her opponents a tongue lashing they would never live to forget.
She certainly broke the glass ceiling.
Troll Slayer she is the only reason your pound is not even lower that the Bulgarian coins because of her economic policies which attracted investors from all over the world
I'm socialist but I admit she had brilliant wit, this video has me cracking up
They rather keep the poor, poorer, as long as the richest don't get richer. This pattern of thought remains to this day. This woman is an inspiration to the 21st century
Yes love her!! May everyone see the truth
@@Freedomon832 Lmfao, I do see the truth: She was born into wealth, married into wealth and she was a criminal and warmonger. That's exactly why people like her should never be in power.
She’s looking up at us.
She has a point. Only the rich will get richer because of their resources and influences. The poor people can get out of poverty by striving and working hard without the assistants from the government.
🙄
"A federal policy by the back door". How right she was.
Not really, Europe is doing far better
@@TheSMR1969, really? How is Germany's energy policy working out?
@@TheSMR1969 are u kidding me?
@@TheSMR1969 either way it takes power from individual nations and centralize it in a kind of federal government which i don't particularly like
@@Hjd10 lmao how is britains GDP doing ? How is your crappy military that was said to be "not fit for service and not capable of projecting power" your healthcare system is collapsing and half your country is striking 😂
omg when Thatcher would manage the Brexit :-)
You realise she campaigned for the UK to join the EEC, if she hadn't we probably would have left in the 70s
Skyebadoo well hence her comments about monetary policy and the central bank. She didn't intend for the current EU to rule Britain.
She campaigned to keep the UK IN Europe and signed the SEA in 1986 that paved the way for UK membership of the EU,so no,your statement has no merit.
How? She's inside an urn. Do keep up.
@@Skyebadoo if the UK had voted Labour in 83,it wouldn't be in the current mess
Agree with her or not, she was indeed THE Iron Lady. If Hillary had even an ounce of the wit, conviction, and personal touch Lady Thatcher had maybe she would have won.
Justin Curtis nope if she did she wouldn't even be in politics
why not?
here, here!
George Rothschild
If hillary had the character of margaret thatcher, she wouldn't even be married to the person she was married to and therefore she would have never gotten as far as she did
I reject your view. Both are a result of their work ethic, and if she were not to marry Bill Clinton, who is to say she wouldn't marry another influential man? it's the mind set I believe.
I do not believe if Hilary had the views of thatcher she would not be in politics or have a career, both were in politics and both were professional lawyers.
As an Irish Catholic patriot living 23 years in the U.K., I was still a teenager living in Rural Republic of Ireland when much beloved Mrs Thatcher was PM, but even then, I hugely respected her leadership and at age 53 now, over the decades, I’ve come to realise that she was correct on so many things that we see today - we sorely need a strong leader like her now in our times, as the beloved British people here in the U.K. are suffering hugely in so many ways, Tory & Labour alike 🇮🇪☘️🇬🇧❤️🙏
You best not go home ant time soon.
@ Ireland has become far worse than the U.K. in many respects since Covid and very soon, Ireland as a Sovereign nation state will collapse far sooner than the U.K. - my entire family in Ireland are totally brainwashed and indoctrinated as to the truth of what is really going on, as Ireland is more resembling the CCP and North Korea every day, with the Gardai resembling Nazi Stormtroopers
Mate whether its UK or Ireland our polticians are self serving cowards , her like with true conviction whether you liked her or hated her will not be seen in our life times ..
She didn’t need feminism or tittle 9 or all those stupid laws , pure merit. Total respect.
Without feminism she would have never reached the stature she did. This comment makes no sense.
Feminism is no longer about women rather about other feminist and challenging the musculinity of men. In my opion, this wave is toxic.
Amen. She was the iron lady and all the while, a lady. I so respect her for that. No gender confusion there.
@@courtney2823 She didn't need feminism. She was her own person.
@hohohoho Amen to that.
I absolutely love how the brits have their parliament set up, racous, loud, everyone laughs and cheers for what they like and boos what they dont, and even the prime minister sits down amongst her peers and others ask her and each other direct questions and interject and everybody sits close so as to have a flowing dialogue, really good show of democracy and being able to have your voice heard, yall limeys keep it up here here i say!
Love your comment but feel compelled to point out a minor error in your comment. Britain is not a democracy. It is legally a constitutional monarchy that is in essence a constitutional republic. America is also not a democracy but a constitutional republic.
DrR1pper I concur friend.
+Donald Grab them by the pussy Trump - You're statement, that *_"American democracy is a joke"_*, is built on a false premise. America is not nor has it ever been a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. There's a critically significant difference between the two. One necessarily leads to a tyrannical majority oppressing the minority whilst the other is just about the best god damn way of avoiding such a heinous scenario. Furthermore, I'll hand you a blank check if you can find the word _"democracy"_ mentioned even once in the American declaration of independence or the American constitution.
Yall quit it with the arguin amongst each other, i will turn this comment around we'll head back to the house and everyone of yalls gettin a whippin, i mean it
its like a bunch of mates at a pub talking about politics.
I used to detest Maggie Thatcher but now I realize that she did more to help the poor out of poverty than all socialists and liberals and leftists put together. Socialism, communism, liberalism, leftism, whatever you call it, makes everyone poorer except politicians and dictators and civil servants and government apparatchiks.
Neil Kinnock admitted that Thatcher had made the poor richer than ever and helped more people into the middle class than ever before. That's why Tony Blair adopted New Labour which decided to punish working class Brits who abandoned socialism by replacing us with mass immigration.
That's a loot of bullshit, they would be richer either way, the world was getting richer as a whole at that time. Anyways, socialism in norway and sweden prove her wrong.
***** norway and sweden arent socialist. They're mixed economy social democracy and moderate capitalism.
BountyHunter7520 norway and sweden are socialist, and it's called the nordic model of socialism, use wikipedia at least, why do you need internet for anyways
does not make sense , why would a policy(socialism) which is primarily designed to help the poor be the same one making them "poor"?
lunghile theodore Because Margaret Thatcher is distorting the truth. Pure and simple. Socialism has never made people poor, it made some people poorer but all of the people generally richer by narrowing the living standard gap.
warriorprince101010 Binding up Socialism and Communism with Fascism and monarchy shows your complete lack of even basic knowledge about this subject.
Next to Churchill, she was the greatest PM Great Britain ever had, period.
In the opinion of a bunch of nuts you mean.
@@stephensharp3033 I can't help it if you're a Communist. Now, who are the nuts?
This woman was arguably Britain's toughest PM not named Winston Churchill. Few leaders, man or woman, ever showed this kind of strength and reason.
broadstreet21 strength for what purpose and reason from what perspective though? I can’t get over how the British idolise a couple of her character traits and completely ignore the horrible politics that she championed!
You would be making that statement in German but for Winston S. Churchill.
you mean great politics, She brought up the entire UK economy.
I grant the part of the Soviets and America , the war could not have been won without their assistance, but Sir Winston was a touchstone for the determination of the British people. Somehow I think neither of us were there at the time and can only judge through the prism of history.
Churchill is a midget next to this woman
Is she a feminist? No.
Is she a good female PM? No.
She is a good PM, that’s it, she doesn’t represent feminists. She shows what it should look like to be a PM.
She isn't a good pm
She fucked the country and made the rich richer. That's all.
(claps ecstatically) HERE, HERE!!!!!!
Ironically, she's the most feminist leader, because she doesn't think she's any different than a regular PM for being a woman. That's what true feminism is about, not whatever Hillary Clinton was doing.
She wrecked Ireland, killed civillians and tore everything.
British politics is definitely more lively than American....also looks like everyone shows up!!
Only for the important stuff.
It was her last day in parliament so she had a full house. A formidable woman whether you liked her or not. Back in the day it was Reagan & Thatcher. Very soon it will be Boris & Kamala 🥱
@@SM-cz5od dont compare reagen and thatcher to those clowns plsssss 😭
@@RKhere97. Sorry. I meant to point out how low we have sunk
Yeah Presidential system sucks
I'm Portuguese and i love this woman. Europe needs a lady this as fast as possible to save this Country UK and Europe
She’s not turning in her grave she’s doing somersaults knowing just how pathetic the conservatives have become.
How is that?
@@voltsgenesis8002 your not very old are you?
MRBRIGHTSIDE UK care to elaborate?
Are you talking about conservatives in general or the ones in the UK
Margaret Thatcher is saying SOCIALIST does not work..
This is when Brexit started, I guess.
She saw where things were going, right before they started. A germany to decide for all Europe, economically or politically. Be it that you have to accept an economical change, or accept 10 k immigrants.
Dr B, Yes! She would've been pro-Brexit! She saw the issues already way back then! She would've been strongly pro-trade, but she saw what the EU was turning into! Her going against the EU is probably one of the reasons she was forced out in 1990.
@@lukek1949 Her vision for a great country made modern UK a real powerful economy and many people understood that. Your is a solid argument against commies and SJWs conspiracy theory between AI and obscure forces creating the Brexit, lke this peach of an article.
www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy
cristi neacsu Yet our country decided politically that fellow Romanians shall move abroad for a better life. How ironic...🙄
@@_o..o_1871 Romanians should build their country to be a place for a better life. Not to run to other countries and then say nothing changed in their home country.
Working people can move to US from Europe too without being in a Union. The only thing needed is the for them to be needed there.
Notice when the "honorable gentleman" says that the poor are "relatively much poorer off than in 1979" his use of the word RELATIVELY. Relative to what? Not to their incomes before she took office (because they'd gone up) but relative to the income of the rich. Thatcher is dead on. It's not compassion for the poor that motivates him, it's hatred of the rich.
We are a jealous species of animal. Envy is in our blood.
Exactly, and that's always been the doctrine of the left. Punish success.
@M. Woller actually my point was envy is very natural. We cannot have a big rich-poor gap and expect people to be fine with that.
Maybe you should say that to the north of England, to Wales, to Scotland and to the Irish in the North. She devastated the economy and shut down industries that made us a manufacturing powerhouse. The guy who was speaking was a rich man himself who surrounds himself with rich people. He was hardly an ordinary man or a man who hates the rich.
@@Sawrattan That is true, but I and many of us do not hate rich people. In fact I applaud people who have worked hard their entire life and have become millionaires or billionaires. We just hate it when the rich come into power and make everything worse for the poor and better for the rich.
I love this woman, how much we need someone like her like now.
When the British Parliament was still British.
What do you mean it still is
@@masterknife8423 Nah
@@firefly3196 Ok wise guy you tell me why it's no longer British
Curious what you mean by that there, Joppe.
when the british parliament wasnt like this: YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA boi
“A Federal Europe through the backdoor”. Maggie was the modern day Nostradamus.
She was quoting Nigel Lawson
@Mr Spoon Still is, by the French mostly.
Thatcher knew how to hold her own in that "boy's club" of a parliament! What a fantastic leader, she is greatly missed.
RyHerbs a real feminist...one i can actually admire
AdeToz Actually, no. Thatcher criticised feminism and wanted no part of it.
RyHerbs But we're all improving our aim!
The one honest thing she did was die, and then she made sure she wouldn't pay for her funeral. She was as thick as 2 short planks and as tight as a shark's arse.
Sorry, I was unaware that so many people disliked the old cow.
There will never be another person like her ever!!!
Can you imagine how she would have dealt with today’s politicians. Growing up Thatcher was a figure of contempt where I lived, but as the years go by its true that her star shines brighter and brighter!
@DnB and Psy Production so very true
new labour meant new danger
Maggie today would say.
Holdy beer
God how I'd LOVE a Thatcher in the United States!
You have a socialist one already :v (Ocasio Cortez)
@@manuelcalderon5863 You know, AOC is about to get kicked out by her own party.
Youve got candace owens shes great.
Jason Weakley if we had a woman who was like her... I’d be honored to have her as the first female President!
*Wrong*
-Trump 2016
Now, I know why Thatcher was called "The Iron Lady". May she RIP.
rest in piss
@@Rapture582 You majored in originality, we all see. Gender studies?
"Well, she's going to be the governor...!" What a witty line.
THEN Thatcher's response of, "What a good idea!", made the whole thing 10x better.
She was truly naturally born to politics, "I'm enjoying this!" really says it all. Each question thrown at her wasn't beat around the bush but answered with due diligence and intelligence. Even her opponents can recognize this. The U.K. desperately needs a Prime Minister with a sense of duty to the nation as, as she did ultimately course-correct the U.K.'s downward spiral. Mind you, the Conservative Party in the U.K. nowadays is a complete shadow of its former self, how disappointing given that they boast the likes of Churchill & Thatcher.
I love Margaret Thatcher, she’s quick witted and no one gets the better of her.
I love Dennis skinner. "She's gonna be the governor."
Joel Skelley
" "She's gonna be the governor."
Yes, that remark broke the tension in the House immediately.
I also had the oddest feeling at the time that Dennis S actually LIKED Maggie as a person (and vice-versa) - as much as he DESPISED her party.
He was always gobbing-off, but I always knew he had a grudging respect for her.
What a good idea.
@@marvinc999 Well, it is known that, despite their big differences in policy (New Labour vs. democratic socialism), Dennis Skinner always liked Tony Blair and he had even gave him some tips on rhetorical skills. So yes, it's definitely possible that he also liked Maggie.
I love Margaret, we need a woman like her in this world again
She was disgusting neoliberal hack who defended a brutal military dictator, she can stay where she is, in hell (if there is any that is)
Rodriguista memer There isn’t a hell anymore. She’s put all the furnaces out once again.
@@rodriguistamemer4406 you have no word in british life country etc...
@@gabrielbritovieira9933 too bad i can employ my freedom of speech, well, that and my knowledge
@@rodriguistamemer4406 do you have any idea how bad socialism is
"The Lady's not for turning."
God bless you, Maggie.
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Greatest female politician to have ever walked the face of this earth.
Nah, AOC. :-)
@@Gloriath1 lol
You can take gender out of it. One of the best Politicians in history.
Good thing she's rotting in hell, along with her all the retarded supporters.
Certainly better than Mrs. May
2:45
"No, she's gonna be the governor"
"What a good idea!"
loool
I thought he said gardener
2:45
Killer reply; faultless delivery. She rocked that house.
That was old school Socialist Dennis Skinner. A foil to Thatcher on every issue other than Europe. He is vehemently anti EU and a massive Brexiteer
Loved it. Expected her to say that. Am sure the rest of Parliament did, too.
God, I love the English
Glub Glob true... it's sad
Mark Greer
No such thing. Martians exist?
Mark Greer Dios ama el mundo
Yet, I would love to see some accomplishments on the last point made by Her
Have some tea and you can be one
Gosh she was good. Smart, smart woman. Well read. Thoughtful. Clever PM
Incredible lady. I’d almost forgotten how she could totally take over a room.
Thatcher: Breathes
Everyone: YEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHH YEHH YEHHHH
Me: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!!!!
It’s hear hear
Whether some like It or not, England Will Always be the women,s Island!!
Wow, even her opponents are dazzled by her, love it!
The last uk politician worth a damn.
I agree.
Jim Callaghan apparently one said to her "I must congratulate the Right Honourable Lady for being the only man in her cabinet."
Thatcher replied "That's one more man than you've got in yours"
@@splinterbyrd She was quick at come backs on her feet and witty with it.
Although I know many people hated her because of some of her policies. I actually like her as a person and as a politician, her poise, her stature, her speech, the way she was quick to think on her feet, the way when she argued her points she didn't just disprove her opponents she demolished them. She is one strong woman that you just don't mess with.
I agree. What would Lady Thatcher have to say about Brexit? What would Sir Winston Churchil have to say to the un-elected EU Commission, based in Brussels, and governed from Germany? I think they would be blunt, brief, and to the point.
What if the EU existed all throughout the Cold War and was as overruling as it is now? World War 3.
Same here, although Thatcherism is a short-term based ideology that has proven itself wrong (according to me at least), she was an incredible and respectable woman. I believe that it is her all feminists would follow. Thatcher took a man's world and made it listen to her more than to any man, instead of complaining for year about bras and oppression like the Swedish feminist "experts" of the 70's 80s and till this day. I would have loved to know this incredible woman in person, and she certainly is an inspiration to me, although I am a man
al43811 I disagree that it is short term. Given unlimited time/power Thatcherism would end up looking somewhat similar to how we ran things in Hong Kong. Is that short term?
as a person she was nasty. very cold and uncaring
Whatever people may think of Mrs Thatcher... she was a lady of remarkable intellect and such a fantastic speaker.. parliament was so good and entertaining...Thank goodness for recordings.
She was no intellect. Average intelligence but incredibly repetitive in her message. Like Hitler, she said the same thing over and over again, until people believed it to be true. Unlike Hitler nobody in Britain is bigger than the establishment and when she started to think that she was invincible she was gone.
There is equality in socialism: equality of misery.
Yup
In capitalism it's misery for 90% of the people and heaven for the top 10%, but sure, blame socialism :)
@@djdoubleu1 are you delusional? Even better, have you ever lived in a Communist country?
@@djdoubleu1 Right, that's super adjusted to reality. How observant must you be.
@staytunedfor have you ever lived in a Communist country? I bet you don't, go live in Cuba or North Korea for a year and then tell me you still want Communism
"What a good idea" - Margaret Thatcher
Her argument in opposition to a single European currency was so prescient, and no person should question her understanding of what was best for England.
Long before Margaret's rise to power, many of us traditional men knew that women could lead effectively. I would like to thank her for proving it conclusively.
Lol “rise to power” you make her sound like Hitler
@@henrybarber288 rise to power has no negative connotations, I don't understand where would you get that?
@@davidkonevky7372 To me, “rise to power” is generally associated with a dictator, mainly because it’s so often used in that context (as in “Hitler’s rise to power”, “Stalin’s rise to power” etc)
@@henrybarber288 I mean, I understand that, but if you used it with someone that's not a dictator, I wouldn't necessarily assume that the person in question is being put on a negative light
גולדה מאיר שלנו היה אשת הברזל של ישראל 10 שנה לפני ת'אצ'ר להיות את ראש הממשלה 🇮🇱
Back when there was manners in politics, all the same people and loves just respected different views.
Nobody and I mean nobody would intimidate this brave decent Lady.
That's not what he was saying at all. He was saying the poor ARE poorer since she took office, and the rich are richer. She built a red herring and ran with it.
“YOU CAN WIPE THE FLOOR WITH THIS PEOPLE”
Omg I almost started crying 😂
Its amazing She was warning of an EU take over and here we are today with brexit, Britain trying to reclaim their own Country back from the EU!
Britain never lost its own country ffs. It had the cushiest deal in the whole of the EU. All the benefits and none of the downsides. Not one thing could be forced upon the uk by the EU. People are so easily manipulated by the propaganda of wealth.
She is one of the few politicians that I could trust. They don’t make em like her these days
How incredibly British! High energy, high risk but exceedingly classy and witty and restrained. Canadian politics are dumb and fake and so provincial compared to this. And what a force she was, standing up there commanding attention and staying on top. Remarkable! No government is this competent anymore.