FAQ My old Pinned Post was made in the heat of the moment so here's a general well together FAQ post to set a picture of what to expect with my content. Anything beyond this is ignored. Your responsible for making your own conclusions and thoughts. Unless said otherwise most claims are alledged. I'm not an CC RUclipsr. I'm a ranter. Q: What's wrong with Self Harm Art? It's Art. A: There's nothing wrong with it. On my adjacent Adult Series HFIL Mansion the main character has an issue with Self Harm that led to her eventual death. It depends on who the arts intended audience is and whether or not it's something not sexually graphic. Birdie had issues with Self Harm but has gradually began to use it as a sexual outlet which worsened because of DICE. The Self Harm was a constant thing present and minors who interacted with Birdie also began to draw characters with the same sexual thing. Birdie had posted self harm wounds on his public account and even admitted it was for sexual gratification (post on my community tab.) I'm safe to assume with likes such as DDLC and other things tied to Self Harm being sexualized (Esp when Yuri is a character most dedicated to that.) is a fan of sexualizing Self Harm. But no. Self Harm is bad and anyone who thinks this is censoring art. No it's not. Q: How old are you? A: 20. There's a general rule of thumb in my community. I do not allow Minors to comment on my channel nor do I specifically feel the need to. This channel is for adults or people adjacent to mentally mature enough which is adults. The reason why is because children or minors are very much not responsible people who can come to a proper conclusion or decision at all. And this comment section is example of that. But I can't just remove comments I suspect as being a minor because that's not realistic so most of the time I tend to be careful in my criticisms if there's a chance someone I'm talking to happens to be underage but this is for future reference. Don't interact if you're a child. Q: "What's wrong with BoJack?" A: Nothing. It's a comment jabbed at Birdie and not your fanbase. If you're not aware there's been similarities and comparison to Birdie and BoJack to an awful lot. Birdie has expressed interest in the show without knowing that he himself was making the same mistakes BoJack created and had brushed off or even shunned or alienated people who trusted him or tried to help him. If you think my jab was an insult then don't look further down my catalog of videos because you'd lose your shit over my Hazbin Hotel opinions. Seriously. Getting worked up over a one sentence is mildly lulz worthy. Q: Why are you Hostile. A: Simple. Multiple clashing Diagnosed Disorders, Harassment received from a different Platform as with a Fandom, Dealing with the fact a close friend was a groomer and essentially people in the comments making me feel like a idiot for repeating myself had to do it. I am diagnosed with DID, ADHD, Autism and SchizoEffective Disorder. Before you claim that's impossible I do have proof of diagnosis which my Mom archives a lot. It's an interesting combo but something that has to do with most pf my aperiodic episodes. I have tastes and dislikes and certain pet peeves like anyone else does. But it's generally dumb questions that receive a hostile response. Also lack of Tone Indicators. Q: Who are you to Birdie? A: A goofy jobber who was mirrored version (A Twilight Zone Birdie.) who was failed and groomed online because I had no real support system. I did self harm a lot and the difference is was because it was an attempt to end my life. I had my Internet cut off. Had several exes. But unlike Birdie I didn't dwell on the past. But then again rewatching the I'm Back video was enough proof I'm far from Birdie. Q: Where's [COMMENT]? A: Either deleted for being a stupid question, a Birdie Orbiter/Supporter/A-Logger or just deleted by RUclips. There's been one comment deleted that was someone admitting to have supported Birdie's scam. You play stupid games you win a mite from my channel. Q: What are your pronouns? A: He/Him. Q: Whose Birdie? What's This? A: Birdie is or was a pretty popular animation meme youtuber. Animation Meme is a community of animations that are similar to Gacha Edits. The main difference between the two is AMC animates their own without using rigged Gacha Models and Gacha itself. Birdie was well known as a Sans Fangirl. He was basically the founding father of Animation Meme. However it's recent where after four years of his I'm Back video he made himself out to look bad with exposing his roommate Synnibear03 known as ScootolooLovesSans. Birdie handled the situation badly and used the situation to scam people out of 12k and eventually caused such a shitshow that it led to him leaving. There's a lot of information about him including a MEGA Drive of all Birdie's misdeeds. But the short is this. Birdie was a person who lived for the internet. He based his whole life on the internet essentially terminally online as well as being too attached to the internet. He destroyed his relationship with his family for the approval of random strangers, falsely accused people of things they didn't do. And all in all confirmed that he was not ready to return. He is a unreliable narrator and someone who uses their disorders to excuse their actions. And this videos a shitpost meant to mock it. Q: Why is this tone deaf? A: Tone Deaf as if what Birdie did during the Synni situation wasn't tone deaf. If I was tone deaf I'd deliberately make the video criticizing Birdie's victims. This video is parody, satire and irony. It discusses the fact that Birdie despite being "changed" was ironically a bad person himself. My channel is satire. This video was made after seeing the fallout and this clip came to mind. Obviously there's people who don't understand humor thinking you need tone Indicators for everything. But I'm not your playground nor comfort place. I'm an adult. With varying levels of humor. If you can't understand that then you're not an adult.
@@LostProxyNevermore Did you know he encouraged minors to self harm? Don't normalize sexualizing self harm and please stop using his BPD as an excuse. I don't doubt he has it but using it as a excuse is very tiresome. There's no way to spin a narrative that will paint Birdie out as a good person. Also no, we're not cancelling Birdie over self harm like you said. If this were about cancelling them then you would see me not laid back. You're making a big deal out of a shit post. Also yes. There's proof I posted it on my community tab.
@@The16xOrion Thank you for clarifying. I think the problem with Birdie sexualizing self harm wasn't just that he was sexualizing self-harm, it's that he was doing it towards minors and he encouraged it. I haven't done self harm or made art about it but I would tell people making art about self harm to tag it properly and to keep it away from minors. Also, as a young adult, if I were to ever make videos, I would tell minors not to comment on my videos just because it makes me uncomfortable and I don't want them to be groomed or something.
I thought about this moment and used it. So Garnet is essentially the support that Birdie had. Ruby is the fan base that were aware that Birdie was a POS. Sapphire was the people who were their die hard fans that defended them but jumped ship and as you can guess it. Pearl is Birdie's ex friend group.
@@Bickndalls Synnibear03 was Birdie's groommate. Synni groomed a 14 year old named Eno. Birdie made a video on Synnibear03 in the other room from Synni needing help and scammed 12k from his fans. Synni situation generated 4 downfalls in the community. Kumo, Goblin, JAR and Nvrth. Meanwhile Birdie acted out after making the situation about them and thus was looked into. Then their I'm back video was heavily scrutinized more closely. There's been allegations that Birdie groomed KittyDog and not the other way around and now the cat situation and Izzy kicking Birdie out is ongoing.
Not sure about the other individuals dragged Down, but JAR was a wild rollercoaster. 1) SIMPed for her, while he was dating, saying something like, and don't quote me, but the vibe of, "She's a hot women, and I'm a straight guy, of course I find her hot." 2) "preformed" a horrible interview with her, and defended her pe-d0 file ways, because "She apologized/confessed, Real Ped-Dos don't do that. Another Internet personality, that was GUILTY denied their Ped-Do ways for a looong time." 3) and more mess, but I can't recall right now.
@@AuroraPaintBrush4444 Kumo did the same thing as JAR did. Essentially decided to go ahead and simp for Synni only THIS time his girlfriend was in the groupchat with them. After Synni went to JAR he dragged her into a call pulled a Rosa Rasmsey 2.0 call yelling at her and accusing JAR of trying to Rape Her. Basically too little too late deal when it came to him. After that. The Group Chat dismantled and Goblin was one of Kumo's associates. Nrvth was someone who reported on Synni and I was closely involved with him before he was exposed himself for sexting a 12 year old when he was 17. He deleted everything and left the internet.
Yeah this sums up how I feel about the situation better than I ever could “Hey I’m learning from my mistakes as a kid/teen I’m gonna be a better person-SIKE” like idk who to believe anymore.
I haven’t watched SU in like almost a decade and I low key haven’t realized how different the personalities of Ruby and Sapphire are than Garnet, literally being the fusion of them.
Look I like the show but like the main character purposefully in the wrong and I swear I remember him trying to screw someone underage. So like, yeah I see it.
Yeah I never really looked into all that because I’m pretty much not into watching animation memes as much as I used to, and seeing how much sh*t is going down with Birdie, I just didn’t want to risk hearing more about the deterioration he went through. I pretty much unsubbed him and Synni afterwards cuz seeing how Synni’s still believing that Birdie can be redeemed despite the conflict, I doubt that this would do any better considering how Birdie’s far from redemption. This is basically the cycle of harmful influence on the Internet, man 😔
Long story short, it's a youtube animator that's been a problem since literally 8 years ago. Like, I hope I'm not the only one old enough to remember his old drama
Okay I don’t like Birdie either but is your only indication that he had a SH fetish the fact that he drew his own scars sometimes??? Because people with scars existing and not trying to cover themselves up as much as possible isn’t fetishizing SH. (If there was any material that indicated that he had a real fetish feel free to correct me.)
1. He drew overly sexualized artwork. It's safe to make that assumption. Since I myself was a victim of SH. 2. BH is essentially Birdie's favorite thing. BoJack is a character that people have closely found ironic when dealing with people like Birdie. 3. Birdie likes DDLC. There's a character that had a sexual gratification for Self Harm. Birdie has not yet pointed out that if they didn't mean to sexualize it. Then he should have mentioned it. If I see sexualized artwork of self harm I'm going to assume as someone with a ex addiction to it that you are sexualizing it. They also iirc found sexual pleasure in SH too apparently by a leaked DM between GoatCatto and them. This video is just a shit post and not to be taken seriously. Hense the nitpicks. Edit: I like BoJack, I'm mocking Birdie and not the show. Hence the mention. If your taleaway is that I'm hateful of it. Then you won't like my takes on VivziePop and Hazbin lol.
@@MystamiSalamiprobably has a bad fan base, like goodnight pun pun fanbase, great series so far. But if you relate to some of the characters here then kinda sus
@@The16xOrion I'm still really lost about the SH thing. Did he like- draw NSFW about harming himself or something?? I don't like Birdie (nor have I ever really and have avoided the drama mostly for all these years) so I could be missing something but looking it up hasn't helped at all. I just don't wanna jump to any conclusions, because just because someone likes DDLC or any media with really twisted themes/characters doesn't mean they condone said things characters do or like it.
@pIasticrabbits most of the artwork comes pff as borderline fetishizing to me due to the fact it's seen as glorification or romanticizing especially when he wncouraged other kids to draw said SH stuff. There's one image of his character smirking and self harming. I won't deny Birdie has issues with SH but he's actively engaging in dangerous behavior with these self harm glorification and encouraging other minors to also draw this that it's self destructive and I'm fair to assume it's beyond venting and for other purposes.
i have an obsession with ddlc too ahm..😰😰😰😰 my future is in shambles real talk tho, i havent actually heard much about the birdie situation so can i be filled in
What's confusing me is the SH fetish thing. If it's just art, i dont see what's wrong from having a messed up fetish. Incredible amounts of people have messed up fetishes they never act upon (I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PEDOS BTW I AM _NOT_ TALKING ABOUT THEM). The only problem would be if he coerced others into doing it for his pleasure. Is that what's going on? But if it's Birdie who is doing the SH... then that's something i hope he can leave behind for his own good, not something to judge his morality with. I'm probably gonna check the situation out once i have more free time. I just vaguely remember his name from so many years back.
@carimeslockdownedtree2654 the problem is he roped his SH fetish in public where minors had access to. It's not okay regardless because Self Harm is not a fetish you should ne proud of. It's a aign you're mentally ill. And need help. Enabling or just downright dismissing it allows them to nearly die. Especially since if the person is aware of the area they can use to properly get the blood flow. Like I said before there was a time I do believe Birdie had issues with SH but instead of finding other ways of dealing with his issues he developed it into a unhealthy coping mechanism. Which is harmful. He already drew guro self harm porn and even interected with a 15 year old that made hypersexualsonas with him. Art can be harmful like how proshipping can harm people or glorify something. I'm assuming you're underage like everyone here but if a fetish is harming you then it's best to not to defend it. I'm the same age as Birdie and it's ridiculous how much of a hold that he has on children here. It's borderline unsafe and completely weird when there's been evidence and claims he talked to 12 year olds sexually when he was 15 or downright admitted it was for pleasure regarding Self Harm.
@The16xOrion I am an adult, btw. And jesus I did Not know he brought children into that jfc. My point was just that it confused me how the SH fetish would be something to judge his morality on. And now I see the problem extends beyond just that. Roping Children into sexual stuff is Not okay, and even more so when it's content that can teach them how to harm themselves and incite that behavior. Man.
@@The16xOrion adult here, fetishes are commonly physically harmful bit people have safe words or use the traffick light system. Bringing up someone's fetishes to judge their morality on that over them abusing kids isn't something you should do.
So can I still animate furry characters bopping their heads to catchy music, I haven’t actually gotten to do that yet, or am I gonna get ostracised or something?
Maybe since Im more mature and never blindly follow others but I always knew Birdie never changed They've been mosters before and their a monster now I honestly don't understand why any of you believed he changed
Never heard of any of the parties involved, including this channel here. Other than the clip used being snipped from SU, I can’t really tell why RUclips recommended it. I’m missing so much context!
@@Foxtail529withluck Usually it's because they formed a parasocial attachment to him. The people who defend this behavior also does not understand that these people need help and not whatever the fuck they do.
@@nerdyfan21 it's a shitpost. It's not meant to be taken seriously. I'm against tobe deaf posts but it's just to make fun of how long it took some people to generally find out that he's a bad person. Sarcasm Shitpost if you will. The fact that I have to explain that this is a joke is enough to me that you don't understand irony or sarcasm. Like "oh who would've thought this RUclipsr was bad." I'm sorry if you feel that way but many people honestly couldn't really care. I'm just here making fun of this situation for how dumb it is.
@The16xOrion I'll be honest, I could not comprehend what you were trying to say in that comment. There's so many typos, and it doesn't seem to follow any clear line of logic
@waste_of_paint that's a you issue. It seems you didn't read what I said. There's nothing wrong with BoJack it's the person who likes the show that is the problem. If you didn't notice Birdie spent most of his time using BoJack Quotes to describe themself "You're BoJack there's nothing to fix that." You're the third person to complain about this and it's quite frankly annoying. I don't like repeating myself so here's the last time I'm saying this: Birdie makes bad posts on BoJack People points out BoJack similarities in Birdie Just because I poke fun at it doesn't inherently mean there's something wrong with the show. If you never heard of birdie then don't comment.
@The16xOrion I have heard of Birdie, it just seemed like a strange thing to single out as something that would be an inherent warning flag for a person. You weren't clear in the pinned comment on what specifically he did with Bojack Horseman that was bad, you made it sound like other people were comparing him to Bojack. It's not a me issue that you weren't being specific.
@@The16xOriondude you've only got three comments about this, maybe take a chill pill. You're reacting to a pretty serious situation with a shitpost, maybe turn off notifications for comments if you can or switch to an alt you can browse yt on.
FAQ
My old Pinned Post was made in the heat of the moment so here's a general well together FAQ post to set a picture of what to expect with my content. Anything beyond this is ignored. Your responsible for making your own conclusions and thoughts. Unless said otherwise most claims are alledged. I'm not an CC RUclipsr. I'm a ranter.
Q: What's wrong with Self Harm Art? It's Art.
A: There's nothing wrong with it. On my adjacent Adult Series HFIL Mansion the main character has an issue with Self Harm that led to her eventual death. It depends on who the arts intended audience is and whether or not it's something not sexually graphic. Birdie had issues with Self Harm but has gradually began to use it as a sexual outlet which worsened because of DICE. The Self Harm was a constant thing present and minors who interacted with Birdie also began to draw characters with the same sexual thing. Birdie had posted self harm wounds on his public account and even admitted it was for sexual gratification (post on my community tab.) I'm safe to assume with likes such as DDLC and other things tied to Self Harm being sexualized (Esp when Yuri is a character most dedicated to that.) is a fan of sexualizing Self Harm. But no. Self Harm is bad and anyone who thinks this is censoring art. No it's not.
Q: How old are you?
A: 20. There's a general rule of thumb in my community. I do not allow Minors to comment on my channel nor do I specifically feel the need to. This channel is for adults or people adjacent to mentally mature enough which is adults. The reason why is because children or minors are very much not responsible people who can come to a proper conclusion or decision at all. And this comment section is example of that. But I can't just remove comments I suspect as being a minor because that's not realistic so most of the time I tend to be careful in my criticisms if there's a chance someone I'm talking to happens to be underage but this is for future reference. Don't interact if you're a child.
Q: "What's wrong with BoJack?"
A: Nothing. It's a comment jabbed at Birdie and not your fanbase. If you're not aware there's been similarities and comparison to Birdie and BoJack to an awful lot. Birdie has expressed interest in the show without knowing that he himself was making the same mistakes BoJack created and had brushed off or even shunned or alienated people who trusted him or tried to help him. If you think my jab was an insult then don't look further down my catalog of videos because you'd lose your shit over my Hazbin Hotel opinions. Seriously. Getting worked up over a one sentence is mildly lulz worthy.
Q: Why are you Hostile.
A: Simple. Multiple clashing Diagnosed Disorders, Harassment received from a different Platform as with a Fandom, Dealing with the fact a close friend was a groomer and essentially people in the comments making me feel like a idiot for repeating myself had to do it. I am diagnosed with DID, ADHD, Autism and SchizoEffective Disorder. Before you claim that's impossible I do have proof of diagnosis which my Mom archives a lot. It's an interesting combo but something that has to do with most pf my aperiodic episodes. I have tastes and dislikes and certain pet peeves like anyone else does. But it's generally dumb questions that receive a hostile response. Also lack of Tone Indicators.
Q: Who are you to Birdie?
A: A goofy jobber who was mirrored version (A Twilight Zone Birdie.) who was failed and groomed online because I had no real support system. I did self harm a lot and the difference is was because it was an attempt to end my life. I had my Internet cut off. Had several exes. But unlike Birdie I didn't dwell on the past. But then again rewatching the I'm Back video was enough proof I'm far from Birdie.
Q: Where's [COMMENT]?
A: Either deleted for being a stupid question, a Birdie Orbiter/Supporter/A-Logger or just deleted by RUclips. There's been one comment deleted that was someone admitting to have supported Birdie's scam. You play stupid games you win a mite from my channel.
Q: What are your pronouns?
A: He/Him.
Q: Whose Birdie? What's This?
A: Birdie is or was a pretty popular animation meme youtuber. Animation Meme is a community of animations that are similar to Gacha Edits. The main difference between the two is AMC animates their own without using rigged Gacha Models and Gacha itself. Birdie was well known as a Sans Fangirl. He was basically the founding father of Animation Meme. However it's recent where after four years of his I'm Back video he made himself out to look bad with exposing his roommate Synnibear03 known as ScootolooLovesSans. Birdie handled the situation badly and used the situation to scam people out of 12k and eventually caused such a shitshow that it led to him leaving. There's a lot of information about him including a MEGA Drive of all Birdie's misdeeds. But the short is this. Birdie was a person who lived for the internet. He based his whole life on the internet essentially terminally online as well as being too attached to the internet. He destroyed his relationship with his family for the approval of random strangers, falsely accused people of things they didn't do. And all in all confirmed that he was not ready to return. He is a unreliable narrator and someone who uses their disorders to excuse their actions. And this videos a shitpost meant to mock it.
Q: Why is this tone deaf?
A: Tone Deaf as if what Birdie did during the Synni situation wasn't tone deaf. If I was tone deaf I'd deliberately make the video criticizing Birdie's victims. This video is parody, satire and irony. It discusses the fact that Birdie despite being "changed" was ironically a bad person himself. My channel is satire. This video was made after seeing the fallout and this clip came to mind. Obviously there's people who don't understand humor thinking you need tone Indicators for everything. But I'm not your playground nor comfort place. I'm an adult. With varying levels of humor. If you can't understand that then you're not an adult.
I mean its more fair to assume somewhere along the line you misunderstood Bojack more than assuming you dislike it
@@LostProxyNevermore
Did you know he encouraged minors to self harm? Don't normalize sexualizing self harm and please stop using his BPD as an excuse. I don't doubt he has it but using it as a excuse is very tiresome. There's no way to spin a narrative that will paint Birdie out as a good person. Also no, we're not cancelling Birdie over self harm like you said. If this were about cancelling them then you would see me not laid back. You're making a big deal out of a shit post.
Also yes. There's proof I posted it on my community tab.
CAMURAI HAS FALLEN 💀
@@The16xOrion Thank you for clarifying. I think the problem with Birdie sexualizing self harm wasn't just that he was sexualizing self-harm, it's that he was doing it towards minors and he encouraged it. I haven't done self harm or made art about it but I would tell people making art about self harm to tag it properly and to keep it away from minors. Also, as a young adult, if I were to ever make videos, I would tell minors not to comment on my videos just because it makes me uncomfortable and I don't want them to be groomed or something.
@yoylecake420 yeah the 16+ thing as well.
This entire year was just people constantly getting exposed for being horrible I am so disappointed in everyone
People should learn to keep their secrets better..
@@creativeartstudios6792 or keep it in your pants
I LOVE HOW ITS A STEVEN UNIVERSE VIDEO LMFAO
I thought about this moment and used it. So Garnet is essentially the support that Birdie had. Ruby is the fan base that were aware that Birdie was a POS. Sapphire was the people who were their die hard fans that defended them but jumped ship and as you can guess it. Pearl is Birdie's ex friend group.
HE LIED TO US. HE LIED ABOUT *EVERYTHING.*
Nobody is talking about how youtube thought Steven universe was Moral Orel.
@@CottenVee i mentioned it in the description lol which is why.
same thing
@@The16xOrionlol
I cant even keep up w all this anymore. Can someone be the paragraph guy and give a synopsis?
@@Bickndalls
Synnibear03 was Birdie's groommate. Synni groomed a 14 year old named Eno. Birdie made a video on Synnibear03 in the other room from Synni needing help and scammed 12k from his fans. Synni situation generated 4 downfalls in the community.
Kumo, Goblin, JAR and Nvrth. Meanwhile Birdie acted out after making the situation about them and thus was looked into. Then their I'm back video was heavily scrutinized more closely. There's been allegations that Birdie groomed KittyDog and not the other way around and now the cat situation and Izzy kicking Birdie out is ongoing.
Not sure about the other individuals dragged Down, but JAR was a wild rollercoaster.
1) SIMPed for her, while he was dating, saying something like, and don't quote me, but the vibe of, "She's a hot women, and I'm a straight guy, of course I find her hot."
2) "preformed" a horrible interview with her, and defended her pe-d0 file ways, because "She apologized/confessed, Real Ped-Dos don't do that. Another Internet personality, that was GUILTY denied their Ped-Do ways for a looong time."
3) and more mess, but I can't recall right now.
@@AuroraPaintBrush4444
Kumo did the same thing as JAR did. Essentially decided to go ahead and simp for Synni only THIS time his girlfriend was in the groupchat with them.
After Synni went to JAR he dragged her into a call pulled a Rosa Rasmsey 2.0 call yelling at her and accusing JAR of trying to Rape Her. Basically too little too late deal when it came to him.
After that. The Group Chat dismantled and Goblin was one of Kumo's associates.
Nrvth was someone who reported on Synni and I was closely involved with him before he was exposed himself for sexting a 12 year old when he was 17. He deleted everything and left the internet.
@@The16xOrion ahh so that’s why I couldn’t find Nrvth’s channel. Thats pretty ironic.
Wait which birdie???
Nvm I did a quick search
Yeah this sums up how I feel about the situation better than I ever could
“Hey I’m learning from my mistakes as a kid/teen I’m gonna be a better person-SIKE” like idk who to believe anymore.
Nobody!
Nobody. Enjoy the content, don't trust anyone on the Internet to be who they say they are
I haven’t watched SU in like almost a decade and I low key haven’t realized how different the personalities of Ruby and Sapphire are than Garnet, literally being the fusion of them.
steven universe was the perfect show to visualize this.
wow is this how my parents felt learning like half the music artists they enjoyed back in the day were dogshit people
0:26 you leave bojack horseman out of this 💀💀
Look I like the show but like the main character purposefully in the wrong and I swear I remember him trying to screw someone underage. So like, yeah I see it.
I knew it was "[name] slept with minor" a mile away and am still so pissed
IM GONNA SOB ITS A STEVEN UNIVERSE VIDEO
so this is how I find out huh?
who knew that he was doing even worse shit than the person he was exposing. man I'm pissed I fell for that shxt
Oof.. now I gotta go check to make sure I’m not following them.. (this was a rlly good video lol I love the subtitles sm)
From an outsider perspective this video is unbelievably hilarious
WHAT?! FUCKING WHAT?!
Yeah this also the case for a lot of art commentary channels I’m pretty sure every major one I’ve watched is now cancelled and gone lol
Sadly, some of us wanted to grow up and improve to become our idles. It's a total bummer that our idles turn out to be like this.
Yeah I never really looked into all that because I’m pretty much not into watching animation memes as much as I used to, and seeing how much sh*t is going down with Birdie, I just didn’t want to risk hearing more about the deterioration he went through. I pretty much unsubbed him and Synni afterwards cuz seeing how Synni’s still believing that Birdie can be redeemed despite the conflict, I doubt that this would do any better considering how Birdie’s far from redemption. This is basically the cycle of harmful influence on the Internet, man 😔
birdie was already super creepy bro how did yall not see this coming
Agreed. Obv people can change but that doesn't mean they deserve to have a space in my life/the same space on the Internet
Uhmmmm.... who is birdie?
Idk why.... but your pfp cracks me up for some reason lmao...
@@Mrcitrus246 awwwww thank you ☺️❤
@@darkleaf-zm8bpLois reminds me of the one "bird is the word" meme that Peter Griffin did. Which now makes this kinda funny
Its best for you not to mnow that much about him, Lois from the hit top animated series, Household Man.
Long story short, it's a youtube animator that's been a problem since literally 8 years ago. Like, I hope I'm not the only one old enough to remember his old drama
You know everything is messed up when Sapphire os the one who makes Garnet unfuse.
Thank you for the Steven universe video
Okay I don’t like Birdie either but is your only indication that he had a SH fetish the fact that he drew his own scars sometimes??? Because people with scars existing and not trying to cover themselves up as much as possible isn’t fetishizing SH.
(If there was any material that indicated that he had a real fetish feel free to correct me.)
Bojack Horseman was also a weird point. Like it's a good show?
1. He drew overly sexualized artwork. It's safe to make that assumption. Since I myself was a victim of SH.
2. BH is essentially Birdie's favorite thing. BoJack is a character that people have closely found ironic when dealing with people like Birdie.
3. Birdie likes DDLC. There's a character that had a sexual gratification for Self Harm. Birdie has not yet pointed out that if they didn't mean to sexualize it. Then he should have mentioned it.
If I see sexualized artwork of self harm I'm going to assume as someone with a ex addiction to it that you are sexualizing it. They also iirc found sexual pleasure in SH too apparently by a leaked DM between GoatCatto and them. This video is just a shit post and not to be taken seriously. Hense the nitpicks.
Edit: I like BoJack, I'm mocking Birdie and not the show. Hence the mention. If your taleaway is that I'm hateful of it. Then you won't like my takes on VivziePop and Hazbin lol.
@@MystamiSalamiprobably has a bad fan base, like goodnight pun pun fanbase, great series so far. But if you relate to some of the characters here then kinda sus
@@The16xOrion I'm still really lost about the SH thing. Did he like- draw NSFW about harming himself or something?? I don't like Birdie (nor have I ever really and have avoided the drama mostly for all these years) so I could be missing something but looking it up hasn't helped at all. I just don't wanna jump to any conclusions, because just because someone likes DDLC or any media with really twisted themes/characters doesn't mean they condone said things characters do or like it.
@pIasticrabbits most of the artwork comes pff as borderline fetishizing to me due to the fact it's seen as glorification or romanticizing especially when he wncouraged other kids to draw said SH stuff. There's one image of his character smirking and self harming.
I won't deny Birdie has issues with SH but he's actively engaging in dangerous behavior with these self harm glorification and encouraging other minors to also draw this that it's self destructive and I'm fair to assume it's beyond venting and for other purposes.
the accuracy, I'm sobbing-
EDIT: I wanna dub over this now
i have an obsession with ddlc too ahm..😰😰😰😰 my future is in shambles
real talk tho, i havent actually heard much about the
birdie situation so can i be filled in
I think it’s a certain character they’re obsessed with. (Ahem ahem, yuri during part 2)
@ im obsessed with sll of them :,,)
@@fluffysongsss then it’s ok
What's confusing me is the SH fetish thing. If it's just art, i dont see what's wrong from having a messed up fetish. Incredible amounts of people have messed up fetishes they never act upon (I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PEDOS BTW I AM _NOT_ TALKING ABOUT THEM). The only problem would be if he coerced others into doing it for his pleasure. Is that what's going on? But if it's Birdie who is doing the SH... then that's something i hope he can leave behind for his own good, not something to judge his morality with.
I'm probably gonna check the situation out once i have more free time. I just vaguely remember his name from so many years back.
@carimeslockdownedtree2654 the problem is he roped his SH fetish in public where minors had access to. It's not okay regardless because Self Harm is not a fetish you should ne proud of. It's a aign you're mentally ill. And need help. Enabling or just downright dismissing it allows them to nearly die.
Especially since if the person is aware of the area they can use to properly get the blood flow. Like I said before there was a time I do believe Birdie had issues with SH but instead of finding other ways of dealing with his issues he developed it into a unhealthy coping mechanism. Which is harmful.
He already drew guro self harm porn and even interected with a 15 year old that made hypersexualsonas with him. Art can be harmful like how proshipping can harm people or glorify something.
I'm assuming you're underage like everyone here but if a fetish is harming you then it's best to not to defend it. I'm the same age as Birdie and it's ridiculous how much of a hold that he has on children here. It's borderline unsafe and completely weird when there's been evidence and claims he talked to 12 year olds sexually when he was 15 or downright admitted it was for pleasure regarding Self Harm.
@The16xOrion I am an adult, btw. And jesus I did Not know he brought children into that jfc.
My point was just that it confused me how the SH fetish would be something to judge his morality on. And now I see the problem extends beyond just that. Roping Children into sexual stuff is Not okay, and even more so when it's content that can teach them how to harm themselves and incite that behavior. Man.
@@The16xOrion adult here, fetishes are commonly physically harmful bit people have safe words or use the traffick light system. Bringing up someone's fetishes to judge their morality on that over them abusing kids isn't something you should do.
Im not even surprised anymore
Isnt this like the second or third time birdie got involved in drama or am i thinking of someone else?
apparently im living under a rock cuz i didnt understan a single thing...... some1 care to fill me in?
Good lord, I've never watched Birdie as much, but god damn
Would it be okay if I made a dub to this? I really want to now. 😭
@@tylerlyons1812 sure I was going to do it but feel free to.
@@The16xOrion I’m not actually fully sure if I’m going to post it, so you can still definitely do it yourself. Lol
Idek who Birdie is. Why is RUclips showing this to me?
_Ena!_
@ Thank goodness Joel G is a decent person!
Me too lol. It’s like I stumbled on some kids’ clubhouse
Is it bad that I wanted to do more art and looked up to some of these people while I was a depressed middle schooler😶😐
So can I still animate furry characters bopping their heads to catchy music, I haven’t actually gotten to do that yet, or am I gonna get ostracised or something?
Patrick already said:"Never trust your heroes"(specially bc you never met them in real life 🤦♂️🤦🏻♂️).
Maybe since Im more mature and never blindly follow others but I always knew Birdie never changed
They've been mosters before and their a monster now
I honestly don't understand why any of you believed he changed
I never knew this guy existed, but was he the one that spent all his donation money on MLP merch?
Never heard of any of the parties involved, including this channel here. Other than the clip used being snipped from SU, I can’t really tell why RUclips recommended it. I’m missing so much context!
Me whos never heard of the drama : 😶
Idk who that is or what this drama about and I’m as shocked as y’all
STEVEN UNIVERSE 💜💜
Mmmm nah proof is needed
WAIT, are there any screenshots or evidence of what he did? I didn't know about any of this until now since there are no other videos about it
Who the hell is birdie?
Birdie has been weird for a looooooooooooong time. Long time. Idk why anyone fw him.
@@Foxtail529withluck Usually it's because they formed a parasocial attachment to him. The people who defend this behavior also does not understand that these people need help and not whatever the fuck they do.
Why does using this clip to sum up such a serious situation feel really tone deaf?
@@nerdyfan21 it's a shitpost. It's not meant to be taken seriously. I'm against tobe deaf posts but it's just to make fun of how long it took some people to generally find out that he's a bad person. Sarcasm Shitpost if you will. The fact that I have to explain that this is a joke is enough to me that you don't understand irony or sarcasm.
Like "oh who would've thought this RUclipsr was bad." I'm sorry if you feel that way but many people honestly couldn't really care. I'm just here making fun of this situation for how dumb it is.
WHY IS MOREL OREL HERE LMAOO
_What's happened?_
Groomer Bingo for December (birdie)
What's wrong with liking Bojack Horseman?
@@waste_of_paint rwad the pinned message.
@The16xOrion I'll be honest, I could not comprehend what you were trying to say in that comment. There's so many typos, and it doesn't seem to follow any clear line of logic
@waste_of_paint that's a you issue. It seems you didn't read what I said. There's nothing wrong with BoJack it's the person who likes the show that is the problem.
If you didn't notice Birdie spent most of his time using BoJack Quotes to describe themself "You're BoJack there's nothing to fix that."
You're the third person to complain about this and it's quite frankly annoying. I don't like repeating myself so here's the last time I'm saying this:
Birdie makes bad posts on BoJack
People points out BoJack similarities in Birdie
Just because I poke fun at it doesn't inherently mean there's something wrong with the show. If you never heard of birdie then don't comment.
@The16xOrion I have heard of Birdie, it just seemed like a strange thing to single out as something that would be an inherent warning flag for a person. You weren't clear in the pinned comment on what specifically he did with Bojack Horseman that was bad, you made it sound like other people were comparing him to Bojack. It's not a me issue that you weren't being specific.
@@The16xOriondude you've only got three comments about this, maybe take a chill pill. You're reacting to a pretty serious situation with a shitpost, maybe turn off notifications for comments if you can or switch to an alt you can browse yt on.
True
Goo wake up and enjoy life
😂😂😂😂 oh lord
he what
Read more
how could u do this
I hate you
ive been bamboozled
Animation Memes have always been cringe as fuck anyways, so I’m not too upset about that.
Agreed
oh no... anyways
Animation memes sucked so, who cares?
I never knew this guy existed, but was he the one that spent all his donation money on MLP merch?