To be fair. Gegard only says his opponent were on steroids if he truly feels like that. If u go back and look he's been right... machida popped shortly after they fought; Gary goodridge( gegard won), hector Lombard (gegard won), king mo, shlemenko (gegard won). And if u just look at lovato from 3 years ago to now. Cmon on joe.
Joe knows exactly who's on steroids, he's an expert on it himself and probably has inside sources in all mma promotions. The UFC has covered up lots of failed drug tests until USADA came in, Bellator is still super shady.
Filthy Bidness he didnt get covered drug testing just progresses and learns more about whats actually helping fighters and they found out he didnt have enough in his system that it would help. same reason why years or even a decade later olympians lose their medals because they learned more to help them find the actual cheaters
My wife got me a Rafael Lovato Lucky Gi over 10 years ago. This is the first time I've actually heard him talk. For some reason I always assumed he was Brazilian with a Portuguese accent.
The only reason i think he could beat mousasi is because when they fought he beat mousasi. I cant put my finger on it but something about that day that he won convinced me that yeah, this guy can win.
If you for second think that any of them are clean then you are very naive. Every guy at that levels uses some sort of ped whether you want to believe it or not. Dont counter back with "well, so and so never got busted". That means nothing as shown by the jon Jones case. He got caught but still allowed to compete. I really do not care that they use ped. Makes for better fights.
Mr. Marshall You're an idiot....Not only do I workout, I actually kickbox...so I think I have some knowledge of what it takes to train in a combat sport. If you honestly think you have to be on something to compete at a high level you've just exposed yourself as having no knowledge of combat sports outside of watching it on TV. I'm not oblivious to the fact that a lot of fighters use PEDs, but a lot of them don't as well. Muay thai fighters and Boxers have trained and competed at the highest of levels decades ago at a time before steroids...how would you explain that?Since you need to be on something to "train that hard and recover". Fckin dumbass🤦🏽♂️😂
@Mr. Marshall No..plenty dont use dude. If ur entire career job time is dedicated to MMA u can get far more sleep, recovery planning in than a normal person. Mousasi is not on PEDs . Its just a casuals way of explaining fighters to lump em all in as using steroids cuz they thenself cannot train that way so are lazy and accuse everyone else...lots are on it and plenty are not
I am pretty sure Mousasi has kinda walked back the steroid shit. After he fought Machida the 2nd time, he basically said that he had one foot out the door, and took Lovato Jr. lightly. And that loss is what he needed to regain the hunger he earlier had. I think he still believes Lovato was juiced, but I think he kinda regrets the way he handled it.
Joshua Sasfire yeah. But I’m saying MMA fans that are just catching on are in denial any of the MMA fighters are roiding. Lovato falls in the class of most of the BJJ medalists roided to the gills. Including about 70% or more of the ufc guys. The scientist just get more creative with designer steroids and ways to cheat the system
Simon he is 36 years old. He trains constantly. Stressing both physically and mentally from years of optimal competition. He’s not some video game loser, masterbating everyday in his moms house.
If you look at the list of guys he's fought, a lot of them have been susepected of roid use. Hendo (TRT), Vitor (TRT), King Mo (Failed Test), Jacare (Always suspected), Lovato (Always suspected), Schlemenko (Failed Test), etc.
Lovato isnt on steroids.. I mean its normal for a guy in his late 30's to hit a crazy growth spurt, pack on crazy amounts of muscle, come in at like 4% body fat, while you looked like a regular guy just a year & a half ago. Its normal, it happened to Alistair Overeem, Vitor Belfort, and more... And on top of that its not even illegal what Lovato is doing, if you read his fight contract it says nothing about being on monkey steroids.
@@TheMcDeal lmaooo at jacre and lavoto "always suspected"😂 When talk about TRT Why do people never bring up the fact that It was *Legal* at the time ( but you can't use too much and Bigfoot silva who needed trt for medical reasons had his fight with Mark hunt a No contest for going over the limit) All those fights Hendo and vitor competed in are legit and when trt was illegal They stopped . cheating means breaking the rules which they did not As for king mo and Schlemenko did fail test so i cant defend them
Anyone else find it funny when a fighter says they are "ready to die?" These fighters are getting massages, eating banana smoothies, and resting a lot in their hotel suites. Probably not willing to die in a sweaty octagon.
I live in Oklahoma City (his gym “Lavato’s is in OKC and he lives here) and I know a few people that train with him/ know him personally and even they have said that they thought he was juicing. There is a reason Joe kept on about it.
Despite Joe giving him plenty of opportunities, Lovato refusing to elaborate on the steroid issue to clear himself says it all. Having said that, what did Mousasi think, fighting for an organization that doesn't have a testing system for doping? That everyone is going to fight fair? Give me a break....
Wrong. Belllator does test. Both fighters were tested for PED's before and after the fight. Both fighters tested negative. Facts. DO you're research casual.
Only one that's cringe of those 3 is Kamaru. Izzy is just different and Jorge is a gangster. The Cringe Master belt should be between Snoozeman and Henry "Cringe" Cejudo.
Gegard after his last win said Lovato looked like a horse lmao. This guy is clearly on steroids and only beat Mousasi due to his strength advantage and Mousasi not having the killer instinct to finish him when he dropped him. Look at the guys nippes lmao, not even girls have that.
Jad Takieddin can you got to fuck off His name is joe rogan not rohan . Conor and joe aren’t cool with each other to the point where he will come to talk with joe .
LukeZeFool I’m interested to hear his take on the helicopter and all that. I know he’s talked about Kobe in the past too. Not sure if they had a relationship.
Why does mousasi have the expression & emotional state when hes getting attacked by a grizzly bear, just winning the lottery or on a rollercoaster. Luckily hes not an actor or hed just have to pray that they continually make sequels to his 1st movie, cuz his range maybe a lil limited.
@@powerman2610 let's get out the rope for the lynching. Man, 'stumbled' on his words. I hope none of you ever have jury duty. If Mousasi didnt cry about losing - as he always does - no one would be talking about steroids.
@@powerman2610every fool thinks he isnt a fool. What you didnt see was him 'stumbling' over his words. I just watched the interview again. There was none of that unless you have a different definition to that of the dictionary.
In my country basketball is not a "thing" and most of people here in Scandinavia people wont know who was Kobe Bryant. But I am fan of Joe Rogan. Why Joe wont say anything about Kobe?
@Mr. Marshall we're not talking about you champ. we're talking about a professional athlete who fights in a weight class and has professional trainers. If he could have been that ripped natural when he was younger, he probably would have.
I totally believe his character but still can't get behind him. I can health wise to see him heal and find himself a cure. But if anything Mousasi fought a uphill battle the entire time man. Btw that last RD was for sure his motivation but also your supplements Mr Lovato
Get Gegard Mousasi on the podcast!!! He's hilarious and a raw real OG.
Yes. I'm still waiting for that. That would be funny
I think they had him on before. They said they didnt know if he was asleep or not, so it never aired
Why so he can cry about losing the fight some more?
@@jodyjackson51 LOLOL
To be fair. Gegard only says his opponent were on steroids if he truly feels like that. If u go back and look he's been right... machida popped shortly after they fought; Gary goodridge( gegard won), hector Lombard (gegard won), king mo, shlemenko (gegard won). And if u just look at lovato from 3 years ago to now. Cmon on joe.
Most accurate comment so far!
ben STFU! Did Lovato pop? No, Gerard got beat. That’s that. He lost my respect by making the steroid excuse
Machida poped for a weight loss supplement geigard its just the saltiest fighter ever
I could tell just by looking at his skin 😂
i think joe kept on going about the steroids on purpose, the way he says it and looks at rafael when asked it says it al
Joe knows exactly who's on steroids, he's an expert on it himself and probably has inside sources in all mma promotions. The UFC has covered up lots of failed drug tests until USADA came in, Bellator is still super shady.
Filthy Bidness he didnt get covered drug testing just progresses and learns more about whats actually helping fighters and they found out he didnt have enough in his system that it would help. same reason why years or even a decade later olympians lose their medals because they learned more to help them find the actual cheaters
Obviously rattled when joe kept asking about roids. What a juicer.
My wife got me a Rafael Lovato Lucky Gi over 10 years ago. This is the first time I've actually heard him talk. For some reason I always assumed he was Brazilian with a Portuguese accent.
That must be ome bad ass GI 😂😂
with a few seringes on the inside of the collar (dont know how to write it)
If this guy was a dog, it would be Shar Pei
sidewinder2057 thank you
he looks like a real like grinch
I like his shirt, but i think he forgot to iron his face.
I said the same thing
Joe is clearly asking him about the use of steroids and all he does is avoid answering the questions directly. Looks guilty as fuck.
When gegard said he on steroids I believed him straight away
Me too, With all the fights mousasi has had in pride then skip to usada days, im pretty sure he can tell if his opponent is on something or not
@Richard Carr bullshit, he doesn't make excuse when he loses to non cheaters
I know right. I mean look at his forehead.
He said that before lyoto fight in media scrum
@@oalvarez5486 lolz. He always makes excuses when he loses.
Rafael ‘Juicehead Turkey’ Lovato
Joe "I'm going to do all MMA shows so I don't have to talk about Ari" Rogan
Lmaooo. Ari was probably high on some designer drugs when he made those tweets
What happened?
He dug his own damn grave
ari was hacked as well...
Sounds good to me lmao I could go the rest of my life without hearing shit about that
He had to juice up to beat Mousasi though!
AGFB40 any proof of what you are saying?
@@scottishjimmy9813 yes my eyes. You can't tell that he juices?
AGFB40 hes been juiced up idiot
Ross Geller, PhD that saying was from before the days of the internet. That does not apply these days.
Ross Geller, PhD I understand that reference
He looked roided up when he fought mousasi.
Omar Carranza he was. (:
no shit. it's bellator.
Ummm duhhh
He was juiced
Nipples.
It’s no secret this guy has been juicing for years. Heck of a nice guy but do you honestly think you would have beat Mousasi without steroids? 🤷🏼♂️
yes
100
The only reason i think he could beat mousasi is because when they fought he beat mousasi. I cant put my finger on it but something about that day that he won convinced me that yeah, this guy can win.
So if i take roids and take on an mma fighter i have a chance to win?
David Pierce If 2 equally skilled fighters fought and one was taking peds I’d bet on the peds guy every time.
Dude was juiced to the gills fighting Gegard and did nothing but lay on him in top position dealing no damage
*MOUSASI THE GOAT*
He looks like he's old enough to be Demi Lovato's dad
Both drug users
This is kind of random but I would love to see Valentina Shevchenko on the show!
She has the charisma of a potatoe
Classic Jon I should knock you out for saying that
You and what army ?
Dont get me wrong shes cool but she doesnt look like she will be all that entertaining lol
Classic Jon you saying that tells me you don’t know shit about her
Lol as soon as steroids come up everyone’s guilty until proven innocent 😂
Retired straight after and it showed in his appearance from 1 fight to another
This dude looks like an old lonzo ball
He really does.
Yes he looks over a decade older than he actually is. I've seen him face to face in Oklahoma city.
Seems like a nice guy but it's hard to respect a juicehead turkey
If you for second think that any of them are clean then you are very naive. Every guy at that levels uses some sort of ped whether you want to believe it or not. Dont counter back with "well, so and so never got busted". That means nothing as shown by the jon Jones case. He got caught but still allowed to compete. I really do not care that they use ped. Makes for better fights.
Slick Silver no not everyone uses steroids...a lot of fighters do, a lot of them don't.
Mr. Marshall You're an idiot....Not only do I workout, I actually kickbox...so I think I have some knowledge of what it takes to train in a combat sport. If you honestly think you have to be on something to compete at a high level you've just exposed yourself as having no knowledge of combat sports outside of watching it on TV. I'm not oblivious to the fact that a lot of fighters use PEDs, but a lot of them don't as well. Muay thai fighters and Boxers have trained and competed at the highest of levels decades ago at a time before steroids...how would you explain that?Since you need to be on something to "train that hard and recover". Fckin dumbass🤦🏽♂️😂
@Mr. Marshall No..plenty dont use dude. If ur entire career job time is dedicated to MMA u can get far more sleep, recovery planning in than a normal person. Mousasi is not on PEDs . Its just a casuals way of explaining fighters to lump em all in as using steroids cuz they thenself cannot train that way so are lazy and accuse everyone else...lots are on it and plenty are not
@@julianhicks401 lol u may kickbox but ur not kickboxing at a high level 🤫
joe asked him 6 different ways if he was in steroids and he chose not to answer - THAT says it all!!
Invite mousasi to your podcast
I am pretty sure Mousasi has kinda walked back the steroid shit. After he fought Machida the 2nd time, he basically said that he had one foot out the door, and took Lovato Jr. lightly. And that loss is what he needed to regain the hunger he earlier had. I think he still believes Lovato was juiced, but I think he kinda regrets the way he handled it.
Well known in Jiu jitsu community he’s been roiding for years. Hell of a Jiu jitsu player though
Almost all of the top bjj guys arr
RyanG almost all of the bellator guys are, why is this a surprise to anyone
@@nvm7438 the drug testing in almost all sports is shit
It's well known that all the top bjj guys juice!
Joshua Sasfire yeah. But I’m saying MMA fans that are just catching on are in denial any of the MMA fighters are roiding. Lovato falls in the class of most of the BJJ medalists roided to the gills. Including about 70% or more of the ufc guys. The scientist just get more creative with designer steroids and ways to cheat the system
Came for the juice comments
OKC behind u Rafael. Such a class act and great guy in the community
Emotional cause his roids throw his hormones off.
He has a fucking hole in his brain and he’s fighting for a world championship. You fucking incel
he has this young old man steroid user face :)
Simon he is 36 years old. He trains constantly. Stressing both physically and mentally from years of optimal competition. He’s not some video game loser, masterbating everyday in his moms house.
@@AngelGarcia-di6ux So basically what are you trying to say is that he is not you?
But jokes aside, yes I understand what you mean :)
Yes steroids or not the guy looks 20 years older than he actually is.
All these JRE MMA podcasts and still no Conor McGregor, come on Joe
You look like Steve from Blue's Clues.
Duchess yes... yes he does.
Its the shirt
Ya, Steve.
Conor ain’t interested
If joe doesn’t think that this man is on juice Then I’m un subbing
Ive never been so hyped in my life to see ari shaffir on here
This is 1 emotional guy it's like hes about to brake down and cry his heart out
Dude never would have been able to recover so well between rounds if he weren’t juicing like mad.
No proof he was juicing
@@Blkglssjw His nipples don't lie
It looks like mousasi says everyone he fights is on steroids, so he sounds like a sore loser, but i really think hes just laying out the truth.
If you look at the list of guys he's fought, a lot of them have been susepected of roid use. Hendo (TRT), Vitor (TRT), King Mo (Failed Test), Jacare (Always suspected), Lovato (Always suspected), Schlemenko (Failed Test), etc.
Lovato isnt on steroids.. I mean its normal for a guy in his late 30's to hit a crazy growth spurt, pack on crazy amounts of muscle, come in at like 4% body fat, while you looked like a regular guy just a year & a half ago. Its normal, it happened to Alistair Overeem, Vitor Belfort, and more... And on top of that its not even illegal what Lovato is doing, if you read his fight contract it says nothing about being on monkey steroids.
@@TheMcDeal lmaooo at jacre and lavoto "always suspected"😂
When talk about TRT Why do people never bring up the fact that It was *Legal* at the time ( but you can't use too much and Bigfoot silva who needed trt for medical reasons had his fight with Mark hunt a No contest for going over the limit)
All those fights Hendo and vitor competed in are legit and when trt was illegal They stopped . cheating means breaking the rules which they did not
As for king mo and Schlemenko did fail test so i cant defend them
His hamstring injury is typical of steroid abuse.
Why
Comments like this is why this happened. patents.justia.com/patent/10130701
“steroid and win.” Napoleon hill - think and grow rich.
I don’t even care that he used roids, that’s my favorite thing about bellator anyway
The brain issues are just neurotoxicity from the steroids. Dudes acting like such a victim it makes me sick
Such a crybaby juicehead
Salty Mousasi fanboys crying about roids when Mousasi chose to fight in Bellator by his own fucking will... lol
Dudes so sauced up
Anyone else find it funny when a fighter says they are "ready to die?" These fighters are getting massages, eating banana smoothies, and resting a lot in their hotel suites. Probably not willing to die in a sweaty octagon.
Juiced baby.
"After of steroids im emocional"
Lovato is a legend, especially around here in Oklahoma city.
Damn everyone hating on the man for getting juiced. Kinda feel for him
I live in Oklahoma City (his gym “Lavato’s is in OKC and he lives here) and I know a few people that train with him/ know him personally and even they have said that they thought he was juicing. There is a reason Joe kept on about it.
I was thinking of joining. I live in OKC too.
Who? Name the people that said they thought he was juicing. I’d like to ask them about it at training.
Despite Joe giving him plenty of opportunities, Lovato refusing to elaborate on the steroid issue to clear himself says it all. Having said that, what did Mousasi think, fighting for an organization that doesn't have a testing system for doping? That everyone is going to fight fair? Give me a break....
Wrong. Belllator does test. Both fighters were tested for PED's before and after the fight. Both fighters tested negative. Facts. DO you're research casual.
Kamaru, Jorge, and Israel should fight for the “Cringe King” belt because every time they talk it’s like hearing a superhero/villain give a speech
Jorge don't belong to this conversation but I feel you on this one
Only one that's cringe of those 3 is Kamaru. Izzy is just different and Jorge is a gangster. The Cringe Master belt should be between Snoozeman and Henry "Cringe" Cejudo.
Really well spoken guy
Test this fool lol
Whoa, Joe had never heard of Think and Grow Rich? Isn't that one of the biggest self-advancement books ever?
I was really looking forward to the rematch between him and Mousasi. Too bad it will never happen.
Rogans podcast has had a tough start to the year
MMA must change scoring 10-9sistem (gegard had 2 knock down in 2diffrent round and close to finish fight)
nah lavato won clearly
Lovato won that fight and it was obvious to anyone.
- “Luke Thomas”
Joe: I like that guy a lot.
He's pathetic, sux so does Ariel
Gegard after his last win said Lovato looked like a horse lmao. This guy is clearly on steroids and only beat Mousasi due to his strength advantage and Mousasi not having the killer instinct to finish him when he dropped him. Look at the guys nippes lmao, not even girls have that.
Ahhh its Rafael Lovato Juicer
Okie power brothers is something about okie ppl they always go hard!!
so powerful! all the respect
That was beautiful! success to you.
playing the victim. and he was the one who cheated. look at the pictures.
He's not from Amsterdam, he's from Leiden .
who here wants mcgregor to be on joe rohan’s podcast
Jad Takieddin can you got to fuck off
His name is joe rogan not rohan . Conor and joe aren’t cool with each other to the point where he will come to talk with joe .
I liked this comment because my name is Rohan
@@mindforcombat9316 lol
@@Yusufsanad hhh indian kid ...take the jokes seriously..
Haha Kaka im not indian , i was joking you stupid slow minded one
He's from Amsterdam' Its called the Netherlands.
If he's from amsterdam he's from amsterdam too
Where’s Holland?!
Neantherthlands*
Hey I have a question I'm 15 years old I wanna be a mma fighter should I start doing karate or do kickboxing?
Kickboxing
"If you could believe it you could achieve it," Luke Rockhold
Conceive, believe, achieve.....STFU.
LOL
I know Vitor Belfort very well. So this guy over here has much in common with him i can tell lmao
How did he pass his medical?
I’m surprised they haven’t acknowledged Kobe at all
Soon.
LukeZeFool I’m interested to hear his take on the helicopter and all that. I know he’s talked about Kobe in the past too. Not sure if they had a relationship.
He juiced up 4gegard fight
Somebody get this man a Costco sized tub of Oil of Olay.
Can we get some non MMA fighter on the podcast. We've had like 10 in the past 2 weeks
maybe if this ari thing get's lie low....
Juicer.
I can't believe Joe has never heard of this book - hope it does him some good
On a different note, glad you went back to where you come from.
You guys are awesome!!!
Why does mousasi have the expression & emotional state when hes getting attacked by a grizzly bear, just winning the lottery or on a rollercoaster. Luckily hes not an actor or hed just have to pray that they continually make sequels to his 1st movie, cuz his range maybe a lil limited.
he never said "no" to taking steroids, such a bad liar also.
Why would he have to? His entire language makes it clear he was disappointed in Mousasi accusing him of being on steroids.
@@trugrit7210 he stumbled on his words for like 30 seconds
@@powerman2610 let's get out the rope for the lynching. Man, 'stumbled' on his words.
I hope none of you ever have jury duty. If Mousasi didnt cry about losing - as he always does - no one would be talking about steroids.
@@trugrit7210 I already saw all signs of juicing . I saw how dagger like nipples he had and knew that's the first sign
@@powerman2610every fool thinks he isnt a fool. What you didnt see was him 'stumbling' over his words. I just watched the interview again. There was none of that unless you have a different definition to that of the dictionary.
Wait what is the story about the roids??? Everyone is calling him a roidhead
Nerds and virgins as Colby would say ^^
In my country basketball is not a "thing" and most of people here in Scandinavia people wont know who was Kobe Bryant. But I am fan of Joe Rogan. Why Joe wont say anything about Kobe?
Steroids or not...Lovato is an absolute beast
Anyone else get bored....?!!
Beautiful stuff
you could float a rubber ducky down that center divide in his abs. old age onset of unbelievable testosterone?
@Mr. Marshall explain to me, how he's 5x more ripped now than when he was in his normal physical prime. thanks.
@Mr. Marshall we're not talking about you champ. we're talking about a professional athlete who fights in a weight class and has professional trainers. If he could have been that ripped natural when he was younger, he probably would have.
@Mr. Marshall whatever you say boomer. future mister olympia.
Has joe addressed the Ari incident yet?
What is Joe talking about? Moussasi has said that about most of the people he's lost to
Dream probs
jo you need too have this kid on your show
Taylor Wilson
Get your boy Ari, Joe
This guys biggest dream was to fight in bellator
It’s in London yeno mousasi is from Amsterdam....
He looks like Alex Honnold’s dad.
Kobe.
When are you going to address the shit Ari said about Kobe and his daughter Joe?
Talk about Ari, Joe.
I totally believe his character but still can't get behind him. I can health wise to see him heal and find himself a cure. But if anything Mousasi fought a uphill battle the entire time man. Btw that last RD was for sure his motivation but also your supplements Mr Lovato
Somebody check out my book. I’ll feed you celery
Bellator VS UFC VS ONE CHAMPIONSHIP CHAMP VS CHAMP
He sounds like a pathological liar and manipulator; but totally transparent.
Who TF is this, wheres Kanye or Connor or Stephen Fry??
@@rhhas casual yeah
@@rhhas Who TF are you?
I don't like the guy but he was a nobody that beat a legend that night.
Is the Athletic Commission conducting the same strict drug Test on every fighter before each fight also fighting in BELLATOR ?
Nah, they're not working with USADA. Guess why all the veteran fighters join Bellator.