Get Out mocked performative wokeness. "Hey, we're making Juneteenth a national holiday!" "Wait, wouldn't it be better for Black people if you made Election Day a national holiday?" "Just say thank you and vote for us, okay? Sheesh..."
Hypothetical question: If Get Out had been released in say 2014, would the liberals get the message? It could still be set in a hypothetical future where a monstrous Republican is president, or even a techoncratic white Democrat lady who floats in a vat of spice mélange and has plans within plans. How would they have responded to it then?
The funniest thing about Get Out to me, to this day, is the "I would have voted for Obama for a third term" joke went right over Bradley Whitford's head.
If you're a retail worker or a food service worker, it doesn't matter what the national holidays are. The government would need the balls to force businesses to close on Election day and I can't see it doing that. Election day would become a long weekend like Labor day or MLK day: a holiday for those who can afford it, shitty labor for the workers. It's a ruse to boost travel and consumer spending.
The racism from those overly liberal people comes in the form of infantalizing and patronizing of black people. I've seen a lot of try hards doing theater and private acting gigs in Philly, and there is always that person that goes over the top to prove they're not one of the bad white people.
@@phanatic215 just makes me think of people who have no material reason for being left wing. Like people who grew up in six figure households and wanted for nothing, and now have notorious rbg shit or who think faucci is hot. They could’ve become psychopathic conservatives but just by sheer luck chose one aesthetic over another and who most likely vote republican once they buy a house in the suburbs.
Holy shit the whole 55:57-59:17 is so unlistenable it’s just them saying the same thing along the lines of “it was decent, but mediocre and I don’t get the hype”. They sound really snobby.
Parasite did an incredible job painting a panorama of modern class dynamics, gotta hard disagree with the haters on this one. Can’t help but feel that it was dismissed on the basis that a bunch of troglodytes pretended to understand it for twitter likes.
Most of Bong Jun-Ho's films are astutely aware of class struggle. Mother, The Host and Memories of Murder in particular are good but a lot of his films are meditations on what it is like to be poor as hell. The first in Park Chan-Wook's Vengeance trilogy too, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance. All worth checking out if you have the time.
Chewy Thomson I’ve seen a couple of his other works, but not the ones you’ve highlighted. I appreciate the insight and recommendations! I’ll be sure to add them to my watch list.
I'm always suspicious of claims that use "incredible". You literally could not believe it? You searched for some explanation as to how what you saw was even possible and could find none at all? Also, you do know that Parasite was not "dismissed", right? Even though, to me, it was just OK. It was like a less gory Borgman.
jfrsnjhnsn I mean, reducing terms to their denotation without any respect to colloquial usage is silly pedantry. As to your second point, I was specifically referring to Matt and Felix’s comments and how I think their opinions could’ve been influenced by their perception of the online reactions.
@@ExtremelyAverageMonster I think it started back around 2008. This political ghoul guy who worked for Sarah Palin was arguing with some newsanchor on TV and he said that Palin was "incredibly classy". I had a really bad cringe reaction to that. Ever since then, I have found myself unfavorably dissecting instances of usage of "incredible".
Hard disagree with some of the takes of the Chapos here. Also, their reading of Knives Out as "Rian Johnson complaining about incel Star Wars fans" is quite weird to me, considering that the only thing that comes close to that in the film is the alt right twitter kid, and he is basically a joke character that has something like two or three lines in the whole movie.
I don’t think that Johnson was calling out those Star Wars fans as much as that was just another group of people in his sight lines during the writing of the film. He went after, seemingly, everyone within the political conversation of the time but the people he sees himself being a part of😅
@@TheFlash-rh2el Well I was just going with what Will was saying, but I think it's also an unfair characterization to say it was just Johnson trying to own his political opponents. Again, there's a kernel of truth in this, but in the overall structure of the film political beefs play a fairly marginal role. The only other scene I recall explicitly referencing the then current discourse was the one where the family members are having a debate about the border wall or some related immigration policy. I'll give that it was very heavy handed and clumsy, but it was only a scene, and not without purpose either, because it's one of the ways the film establishes tension between the family and Marta, being daughter of an illegal immigrant. I don't know, I just think that's a very dismissive way of categorizing an imo pretty solid mystery movie.
@@dr.scrapjack2045 I dunno if I'm reading too much nuance into it, but when the douchey uncle with the dodgy politics claims how he loves Hamilton, that struck me as not just being a criticism of the uncle, but of the musical itself for allowing him to enjoy it without having his views challenged.
@@dr.scrapjack2045 not to mention they criticize shape of water and knives out with largely moralistic arguments and neglect to give any praise or criticism on the actual filmmaking and aesthetic. Its hard to know if they dislike the movies purely for their message or if they actual hate the film beyond this. I assume they hate the movie for additional reasons because they all argue in this episode that you can like something with a bad or reactionary message
@@alanritchie7850 The Shape of Water criticism they gave was bewildering to me. As others have already pointed out, they seem to think that the movie is a transgender allegory, while the most obvious reading is a criticism of xenophobia and the segregation of minorities. But even if it was a transgender allegory... the keyword there is allegory! Their criticism basically reduced to "it's a bad look because some reactionary shithead once compared LGBT issues to beastiality", which as a criticism sounds equally silly as someone saying the Beauty and the Beast is a bad movie because someone said it promoted zoophilia. Also Matt describing del Toro's filmography as pure sentimentality was... something, especially when you are critiquing a piece of art in a medium that heavily relies on emotional response. And as you said, almost no word about the artistic side of his films. Honestly if this is all their criticism the only explaination I can come up with is that they are just being contrarian for the sake of it.
The Mafia Boss that Ran the Chicago Outfit for DECADES just now died at 91 years old and it was a small news blip….THATS how you professional gangster😎
its legit wild how much chapo complains about people liking or disliking films based entirely off of resentment while in the same breath doing the same thing, funny episode tho
Sometimes it’s just into getting it or people being cringe about it blurs perception. Ages ago Will said he didn’t like Sicario then later episodes mentioned liking it and on the same film Matt claimed Villeneuve has never made a successful film ignoring how Sicario and Prisoners were big hits. It’s just personal tastes that feels off because sometimes they have really great film takes I’m with them on how good Dragged across concrete is
@@GrimReader well I think broadly they have pretty good taste but I just think its kind of a shame when they shit on a talented director or fun film because they suspect them of being a lib lmao
@@memekingk373 oh yeah I get that Matt and Felix insane Wire take is roundly seen for what it is: "David Simon is cringe on twitter, the show is lib propaganda" I'm just a bit numb to it now and can tune out when it's a reach
The reason I like felix best is because he embraces his shitposter status. The others take themselves too seriously, especially for how flippantly they dismiss some of the best recent movies.
Dragged Across Concrete makes a mistake with the Jen Carpenter vignette, because that vignette in just a few minutes has more gravity than everything that comes before or after it. I didn't really care about what was going on with the cops or the dealer before her scene, and after her scene I didn't care at all about the rest of it. I agree that Bone Tomahawk and Cell Block 99 are amazing. An earlier movie by Zahler called Asylum Breakout is also really good.
Zahler should have made Jennifer CarPenter the lady who gets taKen hostage. It would have made her fate way more disturbing and Poignant, esPecially the Part where they asK the hostage if she has a family. Also Michael Jai White was criminally under used. I did love Tory Kittles just shaKing his head in disbelief and telling Mel Gibson "You FucKin DUMBAss!!" His Prejudice and mistrust got him Killed by a man with arguably more integrity than him.
this is just a natural outcome of being too contrarian. if you look at what he likes its a bunch of mainline horseshit but he talks himself into liking them because all the smart people hate them. the only exception is the Sopranos.
Den of Thieves is a poor man's "Heat." It lacks the style of Heat and is a bit ham fisted, which makes it a Trump film. Like the guest says, "It wears its rip-offs on its sleeve."
Rip-off is a bit unfair. There is plenty that separates two different works regardless of how similar their stories are. The stories can be identical and the identity of the writers and directors in charge would be enough to turn the direction of the vehicle just enough.
"Knives Out" Was a really fun take on Agatha Christie movies. I LOVE Jojo Rabbit. I personally didn't like "The Shape of Water" but I can see what it was getting at and for whom it was intended.
It's funny to hear Matt criticize so many movies when he consistently reveals he has the absolute worst taste in pop culture anything. Just leave Guillermo Del Toro alone!
Update: Saw Nightmare Alley. Didn't care for it. Del Toro maintains his penchant nose disfigurement, which is cool. I think they used squibs. CGI chicken though.
I love Del Toro. Pan's Labyrinth is a masterpiece of cinema. Shape of Water has none of Labyrinths subtly, none of its versimilitude. Shape of Water is a fine movie, but considering that Del Toro was its director? Its awful.
Hate to give the detractors of our beloved Dry Boys any credit, but having like half of all the eps in 2021 be weightless movie reviews does point to the gang being incredibly Tired and extremely Over It.
I definitely agree about the Shape of Water like I felt the exact same way about the turtle fucking point and it sounded like the nonsense propaganda I was fed in conversion therapy. Get Out was way better. But Jojo Rabbit and Knives Out I felt were pretty good, like they felt like really well put together and a lot of fun. I don't understand what they did wrong. The performances cinematography music editing and all the other bits and pieces that make movies enjoyable were pretty good, like themes and what they're about are tierary to the audio visual experience of going to see them and both those movies were really tight pieces of work as a hollistic project. I don't care what they represent in a cultural and political context as I'm watching a movie, like... Hollywood is not gonna leftists anything they want so I feel like you're setting yourself up to hate something if that's how you interact with movies. Like meet the medium where it is don't have some whack ass standards that are unachievable that's just gonna make everything suck ass except a few exceptions every year. That's on them for having whack ass standards not on the movies that aren't lining up to please them if you ask me.
I'm not sure if I'm joking when I say this feels very postmodern. Also I love the fact that Chapo went from praising Joker a year or two ago to treating it as an average movie off the back of movie elitism.
I’d go back to the joker review. Only Matt really gushed over it everyone else either thought it was better than expected but not mind blowing and Amber brought up how a film about class consciousness can right now only be made through a comic book property because of how limited producers see the industry. I get what you mean but it’s not a full 180
I’ve gotta out myself in the anti Den of Thieves camp. All I heard was this kind of extreme hype, but it’s just dumb. A beat for beat ripoff of Heat does not become a great commentary because all the actors involved look like they have CTE.
A Field in England _is_ a super solid film though. I do think you need to be somewhat aquatinted with the time period in England that it's set in to fully appreciate it though. I noticed a lot of American reviewers seemed confused by its message/meanings.
Still don’t get why Uncut Gems is such a darling of the Brooklyn podcaster set. Might just be because I’m around habitual gamblers on a weekly basis so there’s nothing mystifying or interesting about their behavior to me. I liked the what’s-their-name brothers movie with Robert Pattinson a lot more.
Wow they like _Den of Thieves_ a lot more than I do. I just thought it was a very bad script directed as well as it possibly could have been (particularly in that central heist sequence).
Funny to see them quietly walk back takes like "Joker is the best thing to happen for the left" that Amber and Matt repeated endlessly in the review episode
Oh, god make them stop, two or three Marvel movies a year are cool with me, but every other movie, and we've got problems Huston. ( by the way that's my new catchphrase.)
I feel like there's never a mid movie with Chapo they're either verbally fallating it or it's total shit. I hated the Shape of Water, but Knives Out and Jojo Rabbit were mid and honestly I would prefer more artist driven cinema like those movies compared to algorithmically written migraine causing super hero movies so I don't understand the disdain. Just a waste of energy if you ask me.
Funny always hear references to Heat ,never any mention of one of the best movies ever, "Thief" James Caan ,James Belushi, Heat was it's seque ,lJames Caan kicks ass as highline pro diamond Thief, cameos by Willie Nelson, lol, chappo needs to review that!!!
Every time I forget to not listen to the eps where they talk about media lol fucking hour of "Gotti and Den of Thieves good, Knives Out and Jojo Rabbit bad"
I don’t think their take was that Gotti was good, they were making fun of it for most of their review here. It just sounds like they weren’t explicitly attacking it and instead were mostly riffing on it and talking about the Trump parallels. But I get what you mean with the other takes.
I cannot stand The Joker, or discussion about The Joker anymore. I somewhat like Matt’s take about it being commentary on how the character has gripped the American consciousness, but it’s frankly just reaching. Other critics, and certainly the audience don’t see it that way. I can’t really see it as anything other than a boring rehash of Taxi Driver made for rubes that refuse to watch anything made before the 1st Ironman.
Fuck the Fandom and the Canon they obsessed over. Star Wars fans don't even like the movies. I shouldn't have to listen to nerds rage about a space wizard movie I just wanna take my mushrooms and go to the movies.
These people remind me of RLM. "H-h-h-hey t-today I w-w-wanted to talk abo-abo-about a muh-muh-movie. *nervous laughter* Basically I'm, uh, I'm, like, um, a, uh, um, like, an authority on, uh, these kinds of things."
Joker is bland and average because it doesn't "do much" but a bland average action movie you've never heard of is perfect. I swear, these people come up with some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard
I think that when people liked Parasite, it was just because it was the first Asian film they'd seen. It's an OK movie, but to me it wasn't unusually good in any aspect. The house, maybe. The house was nice.
If ur insight from the movie is the house was nice I don’t think u were paying that much attention to like the characters, story, or setting. Also a movie about class relations and ur insight is wow the rich ppl have a killa house
Its definitly a good movie but I thought it was insane that many unironically considered it the best movie ever and gave it super high ratings. It had a very weird tone and out of place humor. Also analysing rich people/poor people dynamics really isnt that deep anymore.
@@flippinflitz2773 I'm sorry that you don't like my thoughts on the only Asian movie you've ever seen. Other Asian movies have nice houses in them also. Enjoy!
@@tomtomtom6970 For me, the tonal swerves from comedy to horror were what held it together - they prevented it from becoming an out and out farce and spotlighted the seriousness of the class themes. I was discombobulated, but in a good way.
Get Out mocked performative wokeness.
"Hey, we're making Juneteenth a national holiday!"
"Wait, wouldn't it be better for Black people if you made Election Day a national holiday?"
"Just say thank you and vote for us, okay? Sheesh..."
Hypothetical question: If Get Out had been released in say 2014, would the liberals get the message? It could still be set in a hypothetical future where a monstrous Republican is president, or even a techoncratic white Democrat lady who floats in a vat of spice mélange and has plans within plans. How would they have responded to it then?
The funniest thing about Get Out to me, to this day, is the "I would have voted for Obama for a third term" joke went right over Bradley Whitford's head.
If you're a retail worker or a food service worker, it doesn't matter what the national holidays are. The government would need the balls to force businesses to close on Election day and I can't see it doing that. Election day would become a long weekend like Labor day or MLK day: a holiday for those who can afford it, shitty labor for the workers. It's a ruse to boost travel and consumer spending.
The racism from those overly liberal people comes in the form of infantalizing and patronizing of black people. I've seen a lot of try hards doing theater and private acting gigs in Philly, and there is always that person that goes over the top to prove they're not one of the bad white people.
@@phanatic215 just makes me think of people who have no material reason for being left wing. Like people who grew up in six figure households and wanted for nothing, and now have notorious rbg shit or who think faucci is hot. They could’ve become psychopathic conservatives but just by sheer luck chose one aesthetic over another and who most likely vote republican once they buy a house in the suburbs.
Movies mentioned:
1:56 Gotti (2018)
19:11 Joker (2019)
28:13 Den of Thieves (2018)
31:27 Internal Affairs (1990)
40:36 Dragged Across Concrete (2018)
47:35 Get Out (2017)
51:25 Richard Jewell (2019)
51:40 Parasite (2019)
55:57 Jojo Rabbit (2019)
56:04 The Shape of Water (2017)
58:06 Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
58:40 Knives Out (2019)
59:17 Uncut Gems (2019)
1:03:49 Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021)
thanks!
Holy shit the whole 55:57-59:17 is so unlistenable it’s just them saying the same thing along the lines of “it was decent, but mediocre and I don’t get the hype”. They sound really snobby.
@@samsca8529 To be fair, JoJo Rabbit is abysmal
Cheers
as a gregghead it fills me with joy that you took the time to honour muncher #movies
I give it five bags of popcorn and, uh, a baseball crank bobble head so
@@Kaanfight with houses like chapo trap in them, you can't lose!
I found my people
Parasite did an incredible job painting a panorama of modern class dynamics, gotta hard disagree with the haters on this one. Can’t help but feel that it was dismissed on the basis that a bunch of troglodytes pretended to understand it for twitter likes.
Most of Bong Jun-Ho's films are astutely aware of class struggle. Mother, The Host and Memories of Murder in particular are good but a lot of his films are meditations on what it is like to be poor as hell. The first in Park Chan-Wook's Vengeance trilogy too, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance. All worth checking out if you have the time.
Chewy Thomson I’ve seen a couple of his other works, but not the ones you’ve highlighted. I appreciate the insight and recommendations! I’ll be sure to add them to my watch list.
I'm always suspicious of claims that use "incredible". You literally could not believe it? You searched for some explanation as to how what you saw was even possible and could find none at all?
Also, you do know that Parasite was not "dismissed", right? Even though, to me, it was just OK. It was like a less gory Borgman.
jfrsnjhnsn I mean, reducing terms to their denotation without any respect to colloquial usage is silly pedantry.
As to your second point, I was specifically referring to Matt and Felix’s comments and how I think their opinions could’ve been influenced by their perception of the online reactions.
@@ExtremelyAverageMonster I think it started back around 2008. This political ghoul guy who worked for Sarah Palin was arguing with some newsanchor on TV and he said that Palin was "incredibly classy". I had a really bad cringe reaction to that. Ever since then, I have found myself unfavorably dissecting instances of usage of "incredible".
Hard disagree with some of the takes of the Chapos here. Also, their reading of Knives Out as "Rian Johnson complaining about incel Star Wars fans" is quite weird to me, considering that the only thing that comes close to that in the film is the alt right twitter kid, and he is basically a joke character that has something like two or three lines in the whole movie.
I don’t think that Johnson was calling out those Star Wars fans as much as that was just another group of people in his sight lines during the writing of the film. He went after, seemingly, everyone within the political conversation of the time but the people he sees himself being a part of😅
@@TheFlash-rh2el Well I was just going with what Will was saying, but I think it's also an unfair characterization to say it was just Johnson trying to own his political opponents. Again, there's a kernel of truth in this, but in the overall structure of the film political beefs play a fairly marginal role. The only other scene I recall explicitly referencing the then current discourse was the one where the family members are having a debate about the border wall or some related immigration policy. I'll give that it was very heavy handed and clumsy, but it was only a scene, and not without purpose either, because it's one of the ways the film establishes tension between the family and Marta, being daughter of an illegal immigrant. I don't know, I just think that's a very dismissive way of categorizing an imo pretty solid mystery movie.
@@dr.scrapjack2045 I dunno if I'm reading too much nuance into it, but when the douchey uncle with the dodgy politics claims how he loves Hamilton, that struck me as not just being a criticism of the uncle, but of the musical itself for allowing him to enjoy it without having his views challenged.
@@dr.scrapjack2045 not to mention they criticize shape of water and knives out with largely moralistic arguments and neglect to give any praise or criticism on the actual filmmaking and aesthetic. Its hard to know if they dislike the movies purely for their message or if they actual hate the film beyond this. I assume they hate the movie for additional reasons because they all argue in this episode that you can like something with a bad or reactionary message
@@alanritchie7850 The Shape of Water criticism they gave was bewildering to me. As others have already pointed out, they seem to think that the movie is a transgender allegory, while the most obvious reading is a criticism of xenophobia and the segregation of minorities. But even if it was a transgender allegory... the keyword there is allegory! Their criticism basically reduced to "it's a bad look because some reactionary shithead once compared LGBT issues to beastiality", which as a criticism sounds equally silly as someone saying the Beauty and the Beast is a bad movie because someone said it promoted zoophilia.
Also Matt describing del Toro's filmography as pure sentimentality was... something, especially when you are critiquing a piece of art in a medium that heavily relies on emotional response. And as you said, almost no word about the artistic side of his films. Honestly if this is all their criticism the only explaination I can come up with is that they are just being contrarian for the sake of it.
Will doing an unprompted Joker laugh after hearing EW wouldn't rate the Joker is comedy gold.
The Mafia Boss that Ran the Chicago Outfit for DECADES just now died at 91 years old and it was a small news blip….THATS how you professional gangster😎
its legit wild how much chapo complains about people liking or disliking films based entirely off of resentment while in the same breath doing the same thing, funny episode tho
Yeah but Chapo resents multi-billion companies and people who have had their brains fried resent cable news nonsense
Right, I don't get their Knives Out take at all.
Sometimes it’s just into getting it or people being cringe about it blurs perception. Ages ago Will said he didn’t like Sicario then later episodes mentioned liking it and on the same film Matt claimed Villeneuve has never made a successful film ignoring how Sicario and Prisoners were big hits. It’s just personal tastes that feels off because sometimes they have really great film takes I’m with them on how good Dragged across concrete is
@@GrimReader well I think broadly they have pretty good taste but I just think its kind of a shame when they shit on a talented director or fun film because they suspect them of being a lib lmao
@@memekingk373 oh yeah I get that Matt and Felix insane Wire take is roundly seen for what it is: "David Simon is cringe on twitter, the show is lib propaganda" I'm just a bit numb to it now and can tune out when it's a reach
That Harrold Ramis prediction was on point lmao
predictions are easy, just go for the dumbest possible thing and it will always happen
There’s a whole lot of “I dislike this movie because I’ve seen annoying guys online like it” going on here
Yeah their take on parasite felt really undeserved
welcome to the trap house
Moviebros!!!!! They're TTTTTTOxiC
@dezessete yeah its a problem a lot of people have from exposure to the internet unfortunately
good. iots nmeeds to be the norm. people need to fight more online
The reason I like felix best is because he embraces his shitposter status. The others take themselves too seriously, especially for how flippantly they dismiss some of the best recent movies.
They're contrarians basically. That's it.
I think I've listened to every chapo episode and I swear to God I've never heard them mention den of thieves once
Dragged Across Concrete makes a mistake with the Jen Carpenter vignette, because that vignette in just a few minutes has more gravity than everything that comes before or after it. I didn't really care about what was going on with the cops or the dealer before her scene, and after her scene I didn't care at all about the rest of it. I agree that Bone Tomahawk and Cell Block 99 are amazing. An earlier movie by Zahler called Asylum Breakout is also really good.
Jennifer Carpenter is a really underrated actress.
Zahler should have made Jennifer CarPenter the lady who gets taKen hostage. It would have made her fate way more disturbing and Poignant, esPecially the Part where they asK the hostage if she has a family. Also Michael Jai White was criminally under used. I did love Tory Kittles just shaKing his head in disbelief and telling Mel Gibson "You FucKin DUMBAss!!" His Prejudice and mistrust got him Killed by a man with arguably more integrity than him.
Is this an On Cinema crossover episode?
wtf the comments disagree with my favorite opinion dispensary podcast?
I will fight Felix on his Taika Watiti take. What We Do in the Shadows was great
this is just a natural outcome of being too contrarian. if you look at what he likes its a bunch of mainline horseshit but he talks himself into liking them because all the smart people hate them. the only exception is the Sopranos.
@Shinshocks Yep, it's Dr. Tenma!
Um, do you really want to fight a man who thought about being a Green Beret for over two years while he was in high school??
Hunt for the wilderpeople slaps too
To be fair, Jojo Rabbit was pretty underwhelming.
Den of Thieves is a poor man's "Heat." It lacks the style of Heat and is a bit ham fisted, which makes it a Trump film. Like the guest says, "It wears its rip-offs on its sleeve."
Rip-off is a bit unfair. There is plenty that separates two different works regardless of how similar their stories are. The stories can be identical and the identity of the writers and directors in charge would be enough to turn the direction of the vehicle just enough.
It was better than heat in one part: the shotouts
@UC_WKcsDZh8tiId7Q7eobIlQ You’re a moron if you think the shootouts in Den Of Thieves are better than the ones in Heat.
@@jimtreebob2096 the one in heat ended with one of the robbers dead because he wanted to try and book it with his cut of the heist.
Shut. Up.
It's way better than Heat. Zero fakeass emotional bull weighing things down
"Knives Out" Was a really fun take on Agatha Christie movies. I LOVE Jojo Rabbit. I personally didn't like "The Shape of Water" but I can see what it was getting at and for whom it was intended.
19:33 Heath Ledger had already won an Oscar for playing the Joker
It was a joke, Einstein.
It's funny to hear Matt criticize so many movies when he consistently reveals he has the absolute worst taste in pop culture anything. Just leave Guillermo Del Toro alone!
Matt also doesn’t like David Lynch. Dude’s got a lot of great political takes but his film opinions always read as hipster contrarian.
It's weird hearing this if you've ever scanned through his letterboxd account. He used to be way better at least communicating his bad movie take.
Update: Saw Nightmare Alley. Didn't care for it. Del Toro maintains his penchant nose disfigurement, which is cool. I think they used squibs. CGI chicken though.
I love Del Toro. Pan's Labyrinth is a masterpiece of cinema. Shape of Water has none of Labyrinths subtly, none of its versimilitude. Shape of Water is a fine movie, but considering that Del Toro was its director? Its awful.
@@adamtherock2008 I don’t get his take on Joker, he praised it in their original review but in this one he just adopts Felix’s take on it.
that Harold Ramis prediction is spooky as shit
Hate to give the detractors of our beloved Dry Boys any credit, but having like half of all the eps in 2021 be weightless movie reviews does point to the gang being incredibly Tired and extremely Over It.
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close
They got some ass opinions on a lot of movies but this was hilarious
Predicting a CGI ghost of Harold Ramis in the new Ghostbusters, fucking bravo fellas, doffing my cap so hard rn
A Field in England fucking rules.
I definitely agree about the Shape of Water like I felt the exact same way about the turtle fucking point and it sounded like the nonsense propaganda I was fed in conversion therapy. Get Out was way better.
But Jojo Rabbit and Knives Out I felt were pretty good, like they felt like really well put together and a lot of fun. I don't understand what they did wrong. The performances cinematography music editing and all the other bits and pieces that make movies enjoyable were pretty good, like themes and what they're about are tierary to the audio visual experience of going to see them and both those movies were really tight pieces of work as a hollistic project. I don't care what they represent in a cultural and political context as I'm watching a movie, like... Hollywood is not gonna leftists anything they want so I feel like you're setting yourself up to hate something if that's how you interact with movies. Like meet the medium where it is don't have some whack ass standards that are unachievable that's just gonna make everything suck ass except a few exceptions every year. That's on them for having whack ass standards not on the movies that aren't lining up to please them if you ask me.
Very well said, completely agree with you here
I'm not sure if I'm joking when I say this feels very postmodern.
Also I love the fact that Chapo went from praising Joker a year or two ago to treating it as an average movie off the back of movie elitism.
Well they SHOULD praise Joker, it’s a movie about class consciousness and class solidarity.
@@grahamcarpenter691 The issue isn't that they praise Joker. They did. But now they treat it dismissively solely because of its comic book origins.
@@alexcypher4794 Why did they change their opinion?
@@grahamcarpenter691 Hell if I know
I’d go back to the joker review. Only Matt really gushed over it everyone else either thought it was better than expected but not mind blowing and Amber brought up how a film about class consciousness can right now only be made through a comic book property because of how limited producers see the industry. I get what you mean but it’s not a full 180
Dude everyone knew that get out was about liberals
I’ve gotta out myself in the anti Den of Thieves camp. All I heard was this kind of extreme hype, but it’s just dumb. A beat for beat ripoff of Heat does not become a great commentary because all the actors involved look like they have CTE.
Love the new Chapo speed boat dope 666 logo!!!
holy shit they called ghost ramis
3 billboards was great also, but its too uplifting to reflect the trump era
Banshees of Inisherin was great
A Field in England _is_ a super solid film though.
I do think you need to be somewhat aquatinted with the time period in England that it's set in to fully appreciate it though. I noticed a lot of American reviewers seemed confused by its message/meanings.
damn, this one a big oinker. cut out an extra fat line
Still don’t get why Uncut Gems is such a darling of the Brooklyn podcaster set. Might just be because I’m around habitual gamblers on a weekly basis so there’s nothing mystifying or interesting about their behavior to me. I liked the what’s-their-name brothers movie with Robert Pattinson a lot more.
Good Time was such an amazing movie. i liked Uncut Gems but not even close to Good Time
Good Time is definitely the superior film.
oh, piss off. Robert Pattingsons movie was terrible. any guy like him would have been shot in the first hour. uncut gems was at least funny
Good Time is definitely the better one, but both are really good I think
anytime movies or going to the movies is brought up chapo is exposed as an unfun club
Yes but Will brings up so many good lesser known films.
How I feel when they talk about Joker
@@samsca8529 That movie is horrible.
"Criminal Squad" is that famous german subtlety
I've never seen any of these movies.
enjoyed that :)
Wow they like _Den of Thieves_ a lot more than I do. I just thought it was a very bad script directed as well as it possibly could have been (particularly in that central heist sequence).
Damn Felix is trying so hard to make sure people know that he didn’t like Joker
Funny to see them quietly walk back takes like "Joker is the best thing to happen for the left" that Amber and Matt repeated endlessly in the review episode
Why would they do that? It’s one of the most leftist movies I’ve ever seen
Yeah, you're right, because clearly the Lady Ghostbusters was the best thing to happen for the left.
@@feydrautha012 if you say so bud
@@Gil-Galad865 I was laughing but okay sweetie
@@Gil-Galad865 two letters aren't worth my tears. Better luck next life, buttercup
Marvel movies define the Trump Era. Bloated, pointless and overrated
Edgy
Oh, god make them stop, two or three Marvel movies a year are cool with me, but every other movie, and we've got problems Huston. ( by the way that's my new catchphrase.)
Like you! Except the overrated part.
@@jfrsnjhnsn Go soyjack elsewhere
@@jfrsnjhnsn lmfao what kind of absolute loser gets defensive over Disney
I love it when they talk about media because it makes me feel better about my own terrible opinions
So now, Chapo guys are now poo pooing on Joker? Just contrarian drivel.
hmm, my stupid memory thought they were talking about Richard Jewell in this ep
I feel like there's never a mid movie with Chapo they're either verbally fallating it or it's total shit. I hated the Shape of Water, but Knives Out and Jojo Rabbit were mid and honestly I would prefer more artist driven cinema like those movies compared to algorithmically written migraine causing super hero movies so I don't understand the disdain. Just a waste of energy if you ask me.
I dont understand why people take dragged across concrete so seriously, much of it is so silly and funny - especially the Jen Carpenter sequence.
Just as Teflon doesn't stick,. neither did the charges during. Several murder trials he initially beat.
You don’t say? I wonder why nobody ever gave him a clever Teflon-related nickname. Huge missed opportunity on that one.
I would love a deep dive into Dragged Across Concrete. Love that film
Funny always hear references to Heat ,never any mention of one of the best movies ever, "Thief" James Caan ,James Belushi, Heat was it's seque ,lJames Caan kicks ass as highline pro diamond Thief, cameos by Willie Nelson, lol, chappo needs to review that!!!
I'm sorry but Gerard Butler is a terrible actor and den of thieves is crap.
sorry you hate fun
I think he's good, but is in a lot of bad movies.
Every time I forget to not listen to the eps where they talk about media lol fucking hour of "Gotti and Den of Thieves good, Knives Out and Jojo Rabbit bad"
i liked knives out and jojo rabbit
I don’t think their take was that Gotti was good, they were making fun of it for most of their review here. It just sounds like they weren’t explicitly attacking it and instead were mostly riffing on it and talking about the Trump parallels. But I get what you mean with the other takes.
They were right, joker stays overrated a bit. I agree w Felix 100% Joaquin Phoenix is amazing
I would really like to buy a Tshirt with this graphic
I cannot stand The Joker, or discussion about The Joker anymore. I somewhat like Matt’s take about it being commentary on how the character has gripped the American consciousness, but it’s frankly just reaching. Other critics, and certainly the audience don’t see it that way. I can’t really see it as anything other than a boring rehash of Taxi Driver made for rubes that refuse to watch anything made before the 1st Ironman.
The Last Jedi was terrible for the canon and fandom, but it was the most cinematic and kino film of the Disney trilogy.
Fuck the Fandom and the Canon they obsessed over. Star Wars fans don't even like the movies. I shouldn't have to listen to nerds rage about a space wizard movie I just wanna take my mushrooms and go to the movies.
@@zehsackett6132 why are you wasting mushrooms on a movie? Go outside
Capitalists are against a planned economy, but the new Star Wars trilogy perfectly illustrates what happens when you don't have a five-year plan. ;)
@@sunnohh Lord of the rings on mushrooms is an experience.
@@jf1573 The planned economy is the richest get trillions in corporate welfare and everyone else gets fucked.
I thought uncut gems was dogshit
Den of Thieves >>>
These people remind me of RLM.
"H-h-h-hey t-today I w-w-wanted to talk abo-abo-about a muh-muh-movie.
*nervous laughter*
Basically I'm, uh, I'm, like, um, a, uh, um, like, an authority on, uh, these kinds of things."
Movies suck 😜
it's true
Knives Out was fun if you didn’t think about it too much
Who cares how morons misinterpreted parasite that’s a great movie
You misspelled boring.
37:09
they just sound bored, cant even get worked up over the libs. all good things don't last i guess
Parasite, you say?
I prefer Borgman....
*arrogantly sips a martini
Can‘t wait for movies of the Biden era! Can‘t imagine how bland that video is going to be.
Cornpop directed by David Lynch
Joker is bland and average because it doesn't "do much" but a bland average action movie you've never heard of is perfect. I swear, these people come up with some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard
I think its in how it presents itself. Joker sets itself up to be some profound, dangerous movie, but it was in truth pretty toothless.
I think that when people liked Parasite, it was just because it was the first Asian film they'd seen. It's an OK movie, but to me it wasn't unusually good in any aspect. The house, maybe. The house was nice.
If ur insight from the movie is the house was nice I don’t think u were paying that much attention to like the characters, story, or setting. Also a movie about class relations and ur insight is wow the rich ppl have a killa house
Its definitly a good movie but I thought it was insane that many unironically considered it the best movie ever and gave it super high ratings. It had a very weird tone and out of place humor. Also analysing rich people/poor people dynamics really isnt that deep anymore.
@@flippinflitz2773 I'm sorry that you don't like my thoughts on the only Asian movie you've ever seen. Other Asian movies have nice houses in them also. Enjoy!
@@tomtomtom6970 For me, the tonal swerves from comedy to horror were what held it together - they prevented it from becoming an out and out farce and spotlighted the seriousness of the class themes. I was discombobulated, but in a good way.
I liked the family and their little routines in Parasite, then it became some kind of horror movie thing? Completely lost me once that happened
Weird how the only people who understand the real subtext of popular movies are champagne socialists who've never had a real job.
I normally like Chapo, but they're so smug in this one. They have a knee jerk contempt of anything that liberals on twitter liked.