INSANE! Truckers Working For 45 Cents Per Mile | Long Haul Trucking
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- INSANE! Truckers Working For 45 Cents Per Mile | Long Haul Trucking
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TRUCK DRIVERS!
Ronen is back at it again with analyzing recent trucking job postings found online.
In this video, Ronen shares his formulas for calculating driver wages & breaks down how some drivers out there are settling for working 45 cents per mile in the long haul trucking division!
What do you think of these job postings? Would you take a job that pays 45 cents per mile?
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction- Truck drivers working for 40-45 cents per mile
00:29 Today's National Average Rates for Trucking
00:41 Trucking job posting #1 - 22-25% gross
00:53 Long haul truck driver averages 11,000 miles per month
01:14 Calculating trucking miles by national average rate
01:25 22% gross trucking breakdown
02:00 25% gross trucking breakdown formula
02:35 Scam trucking job #2- breakdown gross pay
02:57 Trucking national average $2.25 per mile
03:40 How truck drivers are working for 50 cents per mile
03:57 Trucking company paying 65 cents per mile in Atlanta
04:44 Trucking job posting #3 breakdown - making $3500 per week
05:35 What rate would you need to run at as a trucker to make $3500 per week?
06:12 $2.75 per mile trucking job
07:00 Trucking job posting #4 - 25%- 30% gross
07:56 Running a truck at $2.71 per mile
09:12 30% gross trucking pay breakdown
09:38 National spot rates for flatbed trucking today
10:48 Trucking weekly pay $1800
11:46 Trucking job total gross pay $29,810
12:37 It's better to work on a rate per mile system
13:55 National spot rates for dry van trucking today
15:02 Let Ronen analyze your trucking job postings!
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The best trucking job I've ever had with $26.40 an hour plus overtime. average 60 hours a week driving a specialized construction vehicle called an agitator.
Average $1,890 a week and the government taxed the shit out of my check 😅.
It was dangerous as hell.
At the time I was under qualified and didn't have enough experience for that job.
The company loved me and gave me what I still think was a great opportunity.
Wait a second you say you pay $.65 per mile but when I was offered a job from your company you only offered me $.55 something seems fishy here
was that there brampton yard?
“UP TO” is the key word 😂
How many years do you have of driving experience?
@@DharszanM0moving a truck is moving a truck. Explain how experience plays into this!
@simpletruckerstuff9478 clearly you're new. I can move that truck more efficiently and reliably with my 26 years experience than a rookie with 1 year. Guaranteed. That's not being arrogant, that's facts. I will make more reliable money for the company and myself than a new guy. Companies pay for experience. Go get you some.
I was offered a job fresh outta school for 45 dry van I refused next place offered 65 flatbedding also came with 50 tarping fee and 250 a day for layovers. I took that I was raking in 2k a turnaround from PA to TX. Did that for a long while but I have a wife and young kids and was asked to stop. Now I work for DoT pay isnt great but the benefits are amazing.
I started with 17 cent a mile in 2017😂
@@jasmuzik9183 OMG really
After you drive for a bit, you'll find the type freight and specific stops you go to are just as important or more important than the per mile compensation. Haul a few groceries and you'll quickly see why..... sitting hours at a shipper/reciever with no Detension pay, or running on 95 and sitting in traffic for hours.. short trips, multiple stops, heavy traffic, and long waits.... it all factors in.
It's criminal and selfish greed to expect a long haul driver to carry $80,000 to $100,000 worth of product for any corporation anywhere in America this payment is substandard compensation and is creating a new category of welfare recipients. legislation must be introduced and approved that will guarantee long-haul drivers a minimum per-mile compensation, just like minimum wage for fast food workers.
Welcome to work visa
$100k worth of product, seems really low.
The Gov got their hands in the pot
Or you could start your own shipping company and pay the drivers $10 per mile. You'll cause all the drivers to leave their places of employment and come work for you. You'll have a monopoly in your area. That might be a better way to fixing this issue instead of demanding someone else do the work for you to make yourself feel better.
So, $7.25 an hour? Like fast food workers get...
Some good pointers there sir keep giving us the info of what's going on out there I really like this one
Man imagine a barber getting paid more then truckers now
Pam Transportation is .35 CPM. It's the reason I'm quitting trucking after this year. Trucking has been a huge mistake. I drive as close to 11 hours as possible everyday and I still made more money washing dishes.
get experience and go somewhere else. where are you located?
@@brtecson OTR so I'm located anywhere. I can't just quit. I'm bound by contract for $6,000 if I quit. They take the money out of my check every week. But the balance will never go down until my year is up. The balance goes up by 8% each month. But if I stay the whole year I only pay 2000. If I quit at any point I owe 6000. Pam transportation is indentured servitude for people from low economic backgrounds.
K&B is 70 cents per mile. Tons of places that pay 60 cents per miles or more. Or get a local gig that pays hourly
@@JJason406 hard to do when your contract bound.
Get experience and go with usps, ups or fedex (not ground)
Ronen you said the key word "why are drivers accepting these low rate jobs" that is it. Companies know that and continue to pay .55 cpm or lower. Here in S Fl is a great example even with a spotless driving record and over 8 yrs experience that's what they pay. Until drivers stop accepting these jobs nothing will change.
Absolutely, the power is in the hands of the drivers
6yrs exp and Armellini told me with a straight face they'd pay me $17 an hour to start smh
Most are dam near homeless living in the truck anyways and off cash advances.
I started at 46 cpm and after 6 months at 50 cpm. We get annual raises of 5cpm. So 60cpm at 1 year experience, 65 cpm at 2 years, 70 at 3, and 75 at 4. They gave free schooling and a 1500 sign on bonus at 6 months.
And that is how you keep good drivers!
@joshuaroe3021 I have been considering other options but it really doesn't seem like I'm doing too bad here. If I leave at 2 years, I lose my accrual of vacation time, (which is 1.5weeks paid after 2 years with a bonus payout for expense travels) seniority, and relationships with dispatch.
It's a hard choice between getting hired on at 65cpm after 2 years and just remaining loyal to those that helped me get into this industry.
I would like to know what the channel owner thinks about it??
(Keep in mind that they might very well raise the cpm where I'm currently at to compete with the market. They will never go backwards.)
Nice , get it 😂
@stevefanslow3530 What does that mean. I'm generally curious. Does that seem unreasonable for a company driver, not an owner op?
You’re still getting cheated on pay because it’s not address to address which can be anywhere from 5-8K the company keeps because you’re driving extra miles, so that CPM they offer isn’t really that CPM
As a new driver, I can see somebody starting at that rate. But after 2 years of experience, no way. You're information is so unsightful and helpful and I really appreciate it!
@@someguyfromtheinternet5102If you are serious, please tell me the reason? Companies in mod west paying $.70 per mile for new drivers
.45is dambn good money better than colelge grads
@@donttruckhere At 125,000 miles, that's only $56,250/yr... same miles with 0.60/mile is 75k/yr.
Three years in, you should be touching 80k/yr.
Na youre a truck driver not someone higher up in corporate. You get to listen to music and talk on the phone all day. Chill with that. 75k MAX & you better be a good driver.@@thehomeless_trucker
unsightful? 😂
I love the content Ronen! So .45 is the east coast PEI Newfoundland Nova Scotia New Brunswick. Drivers out east are not paid fairly at all i make .48 in Canada & .54 in the US as a long haul company driver Reefer Van for a “mega carrier” in New Brunswick . I think with all the strikes going on around the US and Canada its only a mater of time before drivers revolt like all the workers in health care teachers auto worker UPS and on on are fighting and getting what they deserve.
Im a company driver and have many 3500/wk weeks. Team driving OTR splitting a dollar/mi on the truck with many 6k mile + weeks, plus tarp pay, live load pay, safety bonus. My ytd take home after taxes is just under 100k
wooow your videos are extremely helpful and interesting!
Thank you for digging into this! What about tanker drivers, is their an average to expect?
Currently with allot of companies going belly up - it would be wise to be at a stable company- any income is better than no income.
Best to sit back and wait for better times
Parked my truck after a stay in the hospital and took a company job 1826 a week home weekend 100 safety bonus each week 1250 for orientation 2000 sign on bonus first 1000 after 30 days next 1000 after 90 days. 3 weeks vacation holiday off base pay 95 thousand a year 5200 in bonus and a longevity bonus of a 1000 dollars. Now as a o/o my average per week was 4200 take home. After fuel and what the company got . I didn't hang up the o/o do to rates i did it for my health.
Im a relatively new driver still at my first job. Make base 44c/mile in canada 65c/mile base in usa. Only doing dry and reefer. Im usually averaging 68 with my bonuses
I started in 1999 at .32 per mile now I make 25% and am averaging so far .74 per mile. That will change depending on the load. I run quite a few loads at 4.50 per mile but the back load is usually about 2.00 per mile or less depending where I go and yes I run conestoga. My latest 3 runs my average was .74 compared to my previous was.50
quick question do you work with contracts or on the spot market?
@@santiagoc1489 both, we have contracts with 3 companies and the rest spot.
USX paid .19 cent a mile back then. Yes, 19 cents.
You are the Best Bro..... thank You
I was getting .42 cents per mile plus .10 cents for per diem. And that was back in the early 90's when fuel was .98 cents a gallon and some places a little higher.
Unfortunately, there are carries out there that do pay that. I myself get $.45 a mile running western, Canada, from Dawson Creek, BC over as far as just inside the northern Manitoba border. That really sucks, believe me. My abstract is as clean as a whistle and I’ve been driving consecutively since 2008. It’s just the way freight rates are sometimes.
Solid Ronen. I'm with a company doing 88% of gross, my 2018 freightliner is paid for. Doing ok, could be doing better.
Hey Ronan Bison Transport in Canada pays only 45-48 cents per mile when they have loads for them lol their pay for turnpikes isonly 57 - to 59 pullinbg 2 trailers in western camnada
When I was out of work, I called Schneider about a dedicated job. I have 2 years experience and all endorsements. They quoted me .41 a mile!!!!! I could not believe it!!!!???
thats crazy
Yea I can!I drove for 18 cents a Mile and when I got a raise to 25 cents a mile I thought I was a rich man! Running 3 log books running 4 to 5000 miles a week.the good old days.back in the late 80’s i had my own truck I wouldn’t touch a load if it didn’t pay 3$ a mile! I wouldn’t drive one now for less than 3$ a mile now…
3 for long hauls? Or short hauls?
Thats crazy, i wss grossing 30-45k a month a few years ago as on o/o. The lowest i ever ran was when it was getting bad and thatvwas still over 3 dollars a mile on the load. Good luck
Only last for 2 years. Now we are back to crappy rates.
JB HUNT paying us here only
$.38 cpm, intermodal in California.
Yeah california sucks, I'm with Cr England, 53cpm
Hub miles
thanks for your video .. empowering....
Glad you liked it!
When I started I was making .32 CPM as a flatbed driver. Western Express 🤣
Don't work for Fraiser dedicated in Dallas,TX was paid .52 cents a mile and was fired for having type 2 diabetes and speaking up about issues ran like a fool
After 12 years i was let go in favor of new drivers who work for half the pay and they hired third-party power units to pull their trailers while company drivers with experience were let go..after 30 plus years i ve come to hate this industry
Currently getting.45 cpm and 20 per stop. Easy work regional ltl. I can’t survive though barely enough to get gas in personal car. Looking for something else like a run down south from nc everyweek that pays 65cpm or more
I've been driving 45 yrs and the company I drive for pays 53 cpm.
Driving for a company based in Vancouver, Canada. Driving triangles and east runs, approximately 10-12000 miles per month. Being paid 40c (CAD) / mile; ~ 0.29c (USD) / mile. 😔
@@dogdazetruckin Yes it is
Awesome video. Most of the lies exposed. Numbers are used to lie. At 14:22 if the Owner Operator has to pay for the vehicle note of about $2000.00 and a drivers pay of $7150.00, the net pay would be $1813.83 per month! Of course, there could be other expenses besides the driver and the note, for example, a breakdown. With this insanity going on, I see more bankruptcies all over. It will take a while to weed out this kind of insane people from trucking, but it is necessary to make the industry viable. As it is, it is not viable.
Our company runs double loads in a dry van . I gross 35-40k a month and make 28 percent . My take home is about 2500 a week. single loads are for suckers and you guys can run for you 65 cents a mile . I’m averaging about 90 cents a mile .
What company are you with? And are they hiring a new driver?
90 cpm isn't All that great.
@@GhostruckerX I agree. once I get rid of my home mortgage I'm saying good bye to OTR. Only doing this to pay off my home faster so I can be a somewhat free man.
I need a stable pay ,because I need to make my new Ram TRX 😂
Yes I work as a new driver in Vancouver 47 cents per mile single 😅
I did a run from Wisc. to Tex making 1.03 per mile, my run back paid about .47 cents per mile. Out is great, but back sucks. I run normally northeast Wisc, to the Southwest, West or South east. Never have I seen a decent rate on the return. Best rate was Wis. to Wis. run that paid by mile (.50 per mile) 1.90 per mile taking 25% gross after broker 8%. What sucks is that if we get paid more, we pay more at the store. Driver rates go up and store prices go up. We will never get paid enough to cover the cost of raising a family.
Tell your dispatch there is no such thing as a back haul. The only exception is if a customer is paying you to come back empty to be on time for the next load.
All your figures make sense except the national averages from what i find on DAT. Are you talking about CONTRACT averages? The spot market shows $2.12, 2.52 and 2.48 for vans, flatbeds and reefers respectively as of today - 10/9/23. We're around .50-.55 here in South Texas. The market is what it is. I never fail to laugh when an applicant acts insulted when I tell him the pay rate and he tells me he was making .60cpm at his former position. "Why did you leave?"..." Well, they shut down and still owe me 2 paychecks." ...... Exaaaaactly.
30yrs ago i was on $1.20 Aus per Kilometre + $40 to $60 per extra drop + 2 meals per day covered m8! I had a good Boss and thats how you enjoyed your work.
Good stuff
Hey Ronan, OO here! Quick question, when you say that a driver does 10k miles / month…is that loaded miles or total miles? (Loaded + DH) ?? THANKS!
I do know some drivers driving intermodal for Dole in the west Coast do make 3k per week.
Respect 🙏
30 years ago i got 23 cents er mile wages havent went up much in all them years .
This is so funny I started driving in the 90’s for .23 cpm
Personally I'd take less pay per mile if the company had good benefits like covering all insurance cost for driver and family a high😂deposit into a 401k good weekly home time and good vacation pay holiday pay ect let you pick the truck you want not just a fleet style truck and run how you want to run
I’m good with 45cents since I am new and only have 2 months under my belt
There seems to be more new drivers at large companies that are not in a position to get hired for a good paying job till they get 2 years experience and have a good driving record.
What is a good driving record now these days if they are stuck with a trainer that will only us them for a log book and not teach them nothing but the company put them solo then a load to NYC the student rookie screw up accident then get fired then he or she is stuck with a loan.
45 cents per mile is a disheartening trend in the trucking industry. Drivers deserve fair compensation for their hard work and dedication. It's crucial for us to advocate for better wages and conditions. Let's support initiatives that prioritize fair pay and uplift the trucking community.
Not all of them deserve it though. Some of these dudes are more of a liability than reliable. Too many trucks on the road not enough good experience drivers. This is why I’m leaving the industry all together.
When I started as a rookie cub. Installing siding was around $100/square.
Add 25 tears of experience and they'll pay you $50/square today.
Excuse me ...put your own siding on muthafucka
45 cents after the rate gets photoshoped and double brokered or before ? 😁
The pay went down while inflammation went up since the 1980s it was 110k now its 50k 😂
A little sore?
@@andyackerman7123 yeah twits creepy and slavery
I started in 2008 and it was 25 cents per mile when I started with a big company.
At schneider i started around that price, Otr 2 weeks out 2 days home. Within 6 months i jump on dedicated which is 5 days out, 2 home but cpm is 68 but 72 with bonus. went from 300-400$ weekly to 1100 to 1300 avg now
The truck company name highlights near you pays 0.52 per mile, I force new employee 1 year contract where if they get fire or quit they need to pay them 2,500
Ronen is innocent to the fact that lots of drivers do make $3500 a week. They running like 3 log books but they are doing it.
Are these owner operator? Who sre making $3500 weekly
@@muxcan956company tweakers
@@muxcan956he's talking about ghost drivers... the truck illegally runs like a team as a solo driver.... these people don't last long before they are caught with their meth stash.
Come on man you should be doing that but good for thems and keep on trucking
@thehomeless_trucker eld isl editable, and unless it reads 'I'm doing 120 mph', it still flies with road pirate inspections
I started back at .40 because I was off for back surgery so it was my only offer for a job 😢
Company in Manitoba bulk aggregate MB to BC bringing in TFWs at 38cpm
My good man in Canada the on going rate for long haul driver going cross border we are getting pay 53C per mle. i did work in my 1990 time 25 c per miles,.
I'm betting that people who choose gross get the long runs, and people who choose per mile get the short runs. In other words, it doesn't matter what they choose; they still get screwed. Just don't go to those types of companies that offer both.
There are some companies with crazy contracts, but that's because they were locked in during 2020 or 2021 when prices were good. Personally, I work for Schneider on a dedicated account where I was guaranteed a minimum of 1600 per week, plus a raise after one year, regardless of whether I moved or not. However, since the contract ends at the beginning of next year, I don't think it will be the same anymore, and I'll have to say goodbye to the guaranteed pay. Let me add we were 20 drivers so you make math how much Schneider probably was profiting if they pay us that much.
They're bullshiting people out there
The only way you're making more than $3,000 a week(net) is if you are leasing owner operator who is a trainer. Something seems off with this 65 cents per mile and seems fishy How many miles are you drivers driving per week? When I was driving solo, I was averaging 3300 miles a week
I wouldn’t get out of bed for that !!
Can you do a breakdown for tanker
I actually gross $3500 a week as a company driver.
I drove for 5 years 24 years ago. What company with a school would you recommend that pays the most and has team freight?
I thought you in Canada 🇨🇦 only ..are you guys hiring..I’m in Houston TX …just over 18 years of CDL experience 1st 8 years car hauler/ reefer and finally machinery move
Work in oilfield driving. Lots of $2500 to 3500 dollar weeks. Also some $1500 to be honest.
Where are all these companies that are paying 65-70? Really curious. I am a flatbedder in my forst year, seems like 60-65 is where wage is at for 1 year exp.
I started 80cpm for flat bed with 100 tarp pay for every load that needs to be tarped one company I know pays 80cpm for fresh out of school and 85-90 with 6 months experience is OCMC based in Chicago, didn't work there but know some people that do
@@myroslavgrynyuk7011I've got no Flatbed experience & do they offer Flatbed training?
@@myroslavgrynyuk7011 no one cares one upper
I'm 34 years of age with 14 years experience (4 years light weight truck and 8 extra heavy trucks) , I'm a Trinidadian, In my country if you don't have experience, you can not driver for a company ... First time in my life I see company looking for 1 year experience for a driver .. No experience, no job but if your experienced your top quality (salary + first person they call out)
That’s all of us at May trucking Company
Like working fast food and sleeping by the fryers.
Oh yeah, lately I have on average a 100 mile deadhead, which sucks.
i get 53cpm in Toronto. 2 year exp. seems good to me, im happy
You should be at 55-60 on Americas for 2yr experience
The company I drive for I believe is in the top five highest paying companies for company drivers. Our company drivers get $1.10 a mile for all miles whether they are that heavy or low. Driver is not responsible for any expenses. It is easy to average 3000 miles per week.
Los pollos hermanos?
@@ivonivan1169 ?
Liar thanks for sharing one upper.
Ronan. Do you hire drivers out of chiciago, IL. I have 1 1/2 years of experience
I know of drivers making 4k to 5k a week... Not long haul. But working in the North Dakota Oilfields.
Yeah that's crazy. When I first started my pay was 30 cents a mile. That's crazy isn't it? But I thought that was good money
Most companies that's all they offer it's insane
I was making .31 per mile at transam otr but they did have guaranteed 1000 dollars a week I'm a yard hustler now making 27.00 an hr
Well try driving long haul. For .28 cents a mile. Out 5 & 8 weeks at a time.
I finely had to quit.
Yep I liked the job & didn't want to quit.
But now retired.
I apologize for asking, but are you stating revenue, cost, and pay in USD or Canadian currency rates? Thank you and forgive my ignorance, I just wanted to make sure.
Trucking is not what it use to be. .45 cpm is insane when you consider the cost of living today. .65 cpm is not that much better either. Glad I left the industry after 18 years.
So is the national average they are talking about from the load boards?
23 years experience and an Idaho company has us locked in at 50 cents per mile.
Dont do it....80cpm minimum
I started .35c/m in 2017 at werner which made me almost quite trucking, some companies have the mindset of slavery.
I was doing otr for only 3 weeks w Werner at .48 cents and even that sucks
.45 cents is disrespectful these days. Minus well be a store manager
I’m making .40 cents per mile but I’m a brand new driver and only been driving about 10 months hopefully i can find something better in time
I drove for $.24 a mile. That was a team split that was back in 2017.
😂😢
Extremely bad
At that time I was getting $.35 😂😂😂
I called up my brother who runs northern Wisconsin he said everyone gets paid hourly 18 to 21
I just got my first driving job 60 cents a mile
Congrats, hopefully you're running often and they raise your rate
Ashamed to say I'm working for much less than 0.45 cents per mile 😕
😂 sorry I laugh.. don’t be ashamed.. you are working, industry will take another big turn this year.. we will be thankful to
Have a job.
I get pay 43 cent and i still get more money at the end of my 2 weeks than a lot of people that getting 55 cents because i keep moving 😂these companies that says they're paying more per miles thats only layovers 😢
So you’re only getting paid”more” bc your slaving every day lol
Do you have a good otr company that pays 75cpm van or Reefer?
I'm a company driver but im treated as aO/O o only take loads that I want stay home as much as I want making 33%
Oh yeah 45 cpm!!! Sounds great!!!
Funny thing is take 100 drivers nowadays, there not worth the .45 @ mile, dont show up, run late, never hear from them, etc.. been at this 43 yrs, never have i seen the likes of premadonna's in trucks, that refuse to brace the load, want paid to open there doors to load or unload...thats part of the job description... not 1 driver out there nowadays is worth anywhere near what the babies think there worth... and oh yes i have 130 trucks of my own so I know what I'm talking about, go ahead and bash dont care....truth hurts... drivers nowadays are whiners not drivers.
Why not pay for lumpers. Many owners want the drivers to be loaders/ mechanics/truck washers/night drivers but refuse to pay accordingly. The money nowadays is not worth an injury waiting to happen for loading/tarping. I knew a guy who was getting paid 27% as a car transporter because he was also the truck mechanic, until one day an injury happened on the trailer and is sufficient to say he was gone at 48 yrs old.
Jeez even BJ and the Bear got a buck fifty a mile.... And that was 1978.
Cr England started there drivers back in 2019 at 21cpm
Maritimes is 47c (CAD) a mile, it's like being homeless with extra steps.
These are still acceptable because it sounds good that 25% of gross but i have seen companies that actually pay 45 cents per mile on payroll, I don't know why people work there.