Bella Hadid, Anok Yai & Modeling’s Biggest Stars Speak Out: “Representation Is the Bare Minimum”

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  • Bella Hadid, Anok Yai , Kaia Gerber, Precious Lee, SooJoo Park and more get candid about the industry’s history of discrimination.
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    Bella Hadid, Anok Yai & Modeling’s Biggest Stars Speak Out: “Representation Is the Bare Minimum”
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  • @Vogue
    @Vogue  3 года назад +38

    Watch Part 2 here >> ruclips.net/video/BuE0o_Hi1X0/видео.html

  • @vandabiss
    @vandabiss 3 года назад +7937

    I feel like these conversations should involve those in the higher ups- agents, designers, photographers, editors; basically the ones who have the actual power. we can have all the models in the world talk about all the issues but, at the end, the final word is not theirs to make

    • @edgaralanhoe2942
      @edgaralanhoe2942 3 года назад +66

      Bravo!

    • @Dh-tc6pg
      @Dh-tc6pg 3 года назад +57

      Period

    • @ratnadipdas8219
      @ratnadipdas8219 3 года назад +7

      Based

    • @serafinaobi
      @serafinaobi 3 года назад +11

      Exactly

    • @poorvi3537
      @poorvi3537 3 года назад +47

      Yes but the models are the face of the show. They are the ones that show the clothes, show the diversity. True, models don’t have the final decision but the models that walk on the runway are seen by children. These children won’t feel disregarded or feel insecure because these children will seen themselves and not some person that is ‘idolized’ as the beauty standard.

  • @gade7944
    @gade7944 3 года назад +5584

    It’s interesting to see that Vogue is the one that is leading this conversation, when they have notoriously been known to be insidious to women who don’t fit the “beauty standard”….

    • @seerpou
      @seerpou 3 года назад +134

      theyre trying to tell us theyve "changed".... they havent. that corporation is evil and is trying to monetise 'wokeism'

    • @fafalimawutor7829
      @fafalimawutor7829 3 года назад +9

      Yeah 🤔

    • @dirtyhoney2418
      @dirtyhoney2418 3 года назад +11

      Exactly. .

    • @page394potter8
      @page394potter8 3 года назад +34

      They pretend they lead the conversation. The conversation is there since me too movement

    • @jadenpetersburg1431
      @jadenpetersburg1431 3 года назад +19

      It’s for da views

  • @jmaddstuff
    @jmaddstuff 3 года назад +5958

    when she said there’s brands that do inclusivity as a trend and i’m over here thinking vogue lol

    • @gorgeousguerilla
      @gorgeousguerilla 3 года назад +451

      and they made the most privileged girl in the industry talk about representation 😂

    • @alexia9815
      @alexia9815 3 года назад +255

      @@gorgeousguerilla nah that’s Kendall, but if they had put her it would’ve been too hypocritical

    • @qytj1182
      @qytj1182 3 года назад +218

      @@gorgeousguerilla nah thats deffo kendall. Bella has talent

    • @urmom-tx1mv
      @urmom-tx1mv 3 года назад +103

      and when one of them said sum like “everyone should see someone who looks like them be called a supermodel” i was thinking how vogue will literally call mostly yt ppl “supermodels” and poc “top models”😭

    • @algiersmuse
      @algiersmuse 3 года назад +9

      @@qytj1182 period

  • @roadworkaheadsign3707
    @roadworkaheadsign3707 3 года назад +4967

    Don’t mean to be negative, but Vogue’s marketing people will make this video and be all like “We accept + love all bodies and denounce all racism!!”… it’s a nice thought, but what truly changes here?

    • @curiouscharvi21
      @curiouscharvi21 3 года назад +153

      100%, saying and doing are two different things

    • @lysniepak9216
      @lysniepak9216 3 года назад +116

      the performative diversity😒

    • @SakhImad11
      @SakhImad11 3 года назад +32

      If u think about it we would never know, because u don’t see what goes behind doors. And we shouldn’t be judging based on a video(S) either.

    • @miha9338
      @miha9338 3 года назад +4

      these plateform ,like toutube,IG and else , have big influence on the community so it can make change

    • @jost1101
      @jost1101 3 года назад +4

      @@SakhImad11 Wtf, why shouldn’t people judge what happens inside the company according to rumors?
      That’s literally the first step to start an investigation against the company which is completely necessary.

  • @seerpou
    @seerpou 3 года назад +4043

    this has to be the biggest joke: vogue talking about racism, sexism and bodyshaming
    kendall jenner pepsi vibes

  • @mbm432
    @mbm432 3 года назад +2391

    Vogue you are literally the leader in the fashion industry. You can set a precedent. You set a standard of this, you have the power to change this but you’re having models who don’t have the power to make the change talk about this. Change is made when it starts at the highest level and unfortunately Condé Nast has a history of setting discriminatory practices in house as well as what the portray in their magazines.

    • @gl0hen
      @gl0hen 3 года назад +10

      EXACTLY!!!!!

  • @sirahhudson1826
    @sirahhudson1826 3 года назад +1571

    They’re saying all the right things, but what’s actually being done? What are vogue actually doing to implement these change instead of getting models working for them to talk about it? Show me a vogue issue with plus sized POC in a campaign shoot that isn’t to do with a stand alone “self love” article attached to it.

    • @malia1287
      @malia1287 3 года назад +14

      I 100% agree

    • @jaa2443
      @jaa2443 3 года назад +19

      Performative Activism

    • @Kiaranj
      @Kiaranj 3 года назад +6

      i never really thought of this but i totally agree

    • @xoseanaxo5538
      @xoseanaxo5538 3 года назад +3

      Exactly!

    • @lashaunbond1405
      @lashaunbond1405 3 года назад +3

      That's is so true tho

  • @timbosubs7622
    @timbosubs7622 3 года назад +140

    its so ridiculous how "hairstylists" dont know how to do black hair, if u cannot do ALL hair types u arent a professional period

  • @haltertopbabe
    @haltertopbabe 3 года назад +261

    “it’s afro or cornrows or nothing” YES !!

  • @kaiabondarenko9590
    @kaiabondarenko9590 3 года назад +402

    Love what Bella said “sometimes you have to mess up, to be able to move forward”.
    So true.

    • @huhnahmai934
      @huhnahmai934 3 года назад +13

      unless your POC, fat, part of the LGBTQ+, or disabled. then you don’t get to mess up at all. It’s true for her cause she’s cis het white woman. we don’t get to do that. We have to bow our heads and let ourselves get mistreated to move forward.

    • @erossore8500
      @erossore8500 3 года назад

      @@huhnahmai934 right :-/ like

    • @nisatanrkulu207
      @nisatanrkulu207 3 года назад +1

      @@huhnahmai934 she isn't white?

    • @koostattoos-8859
      @koostattoos-8859 3 года назад +5

      @@nisatanrkulu207 they are mostly white with arab, according to a dna test that gigi hadid did. and regardless, she is white passing which is a privilge in itself.

    • @missvida6251
      @missvida6251 3 месяца назад

      @@nisatanrkulu207what does her face have to do with anything? Y'all are blatantly racist towards yt people and it's hypocritical. Don't shed one tear if someone is that way towards you. Or you will be laughed at as usual. No ones buying this in 2024. You Think you're at the bottom now…

  • @Xenuwilleatyoursoul
    @Xenuwilleatyoursoul 3 года назад +84

    Anok Yai is so brave to refuse to straighten her hair

  • @samanthaharper9522
    @samanthaharper9522 3 года назад +805

    This video is nice but I also think it’s important to acknowledge that the representation on the runway needs to carry into the offices , boardrooms, and creative staff as well .

    • @bettydaniel5143
      @bettydaniel5143 3 года назад +10

      YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!!

    • @triciamnd
      @triciamnd 3 года назад +3

      🎯🎯

    • @samanthaharper9522
      @samanthaharper9522 3 года назад +3

      @@bettydaniel5143 omg thank you!!!

    • @itsnesee
      @itsnesee 3 года назад +1

      THIS

    • @gl0hen
      @gl0hen 3 года назад +3

      BINGO!!! It doesn't start and end at the runway. Didn't they have the first black person shoot a vogue cover within the last two years? and that was ONLY because Beyonce used her influence to make that happen.

  • @carolinam4361
    @carolinam4361 3 года назад +754

    Diversity as long as you are 5'9+, with a perfectly symmetrical face and flawless skin!

    • @triciamnd
      @triciamnd 3 года назад +123

      Ideally white because we love POC but not too much you know 🙃

    • @user-rj7ky8yg6r
      @user-rj7ky8yg6r 3 года назад +175

      @@triciamnd a couple darkskin black women, few pale east asians, one passing transgender women, one plus size but not too fat. yup checks all the boxes for diversity 😍

    • @mightytaiger3000
      @mightytaiger3000 3 года назад +28

      yes, that's part of the job. You want diversity of doctors where some didn't finish high school?

    • @triciamnd
      @triciamnd 3 года назад +9

      @@user-rj7ky8yg6r 😭😭😭

    • @carolinam4361
      @carolinam4361 3 года назад +26

      @@mightytaiger3000 lmao what …that doesn’t correlate at all 😂

  • @ayyylmao8434
    @ayyylmao8434 3 года назад +66

    Anok's comment on natural hair is such a powerful statement - I love it!

  • @sadiatabassum6691
    @sadiatabassum6691 3 года назад +847

    Bella is not here to talk about her she talked on behalf of others those who she saw facing descrimantion and racism .. as one of the powerful model her being in this video and supporting and talking about others struggle made this conversation a lil bit more powerful to me Idk why everyone is complaining !

    • @mehnaznaseem1218
      @mehnaznaseem1218 3 года назад +61

      People just need something to moan and complain about. Im very glad that all of these women are speaking out about what they feel and experience in this industry❤️ a lot more power to them and every genuine person in the industry 💜

    • @gorgeousguerilla
      @gorgeousguerilla 3 года назад +85

      lol, her appearance here is another opportunity made by the industry to promote her (nepotism model with a designed face), instead of those models who are really struggling & are underrepresented. I feel like Vogue used the wrong voice - not for the first time tho

    • @rodtherichest
      @rodtherichest 3 года назад +24

      @@gorgeousguerilla ...Right!! Her nose job helped her out completely🗣💯.

    • @Gg-fe5by
      @Gg-fe5by 3 года назад +66

      Bella is basically here to bring more attention to the video, since people are more likely click on Bella than on other less known models. It’s that simple, idk why some people are so mad

    • @hohoho3660
      @hohoho3660 3 года назад +5

      She's the "perfect" model. Idk

  • @hungrypony123
    @hungrypony123 3 года назад +521

    Let's be real, if it wasn't for Rihannas lingerie line, we would not be having these talks. Rihanna proved that marketing to all body types and all cultures is profitable (emphasis on profitable) so now of course brands are going to change their strategy

    • @ED-ie3et
      @ED-ie3et 3 года назад +13

      THIS

    • @agbekosprivatestories6505
      @agbekosprivatestories6505 3 года назад +16

      yes, her makeup line too!

    • @huh-o9r
      @huh-o9r 3 года назад +19

      No honey, I like riri but other brands did it first aka agent provocateur. Riri is just more famous.

    • @hungrypony123
      @hungrypony123 3 года назад +8

      @@huh-o9r hey Hun, I have never heard of that brand. Lingerie has existed for all body types but what I was explaining is that RiRi made it a trend to cater to all body types and cultures. A lot of lingerie lines will have skinny, white women as the face of majority of their campaigns. But RiRi made sure to include every ethnicity and body type in her shows, website and instagram. Being able to market your brand on a wider scale is important. If plus sized, and ethnic women were not marketed on a larger scale, big companies like Vogue would not be having conversations about representation. It had to take a brand like riri's (because of the heavy marketing) for conversations like this to be possible. That's what my post was meant to convey.

    • @kimvidem7845
      @kimvidem7845 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/kA6yH3O8KZg/видео.html

  • @IdiomofSad
    @IdiomofSad 3 года назад +252

    We’re having this talk… And yet still shorter people are constantly dismissed as if they have nothing to offer the beauty world. If we’re going to have this discussion about exclusion. Then every shape, size, gender, age and color should be included. You can’t just completely dismiss one body type and pretend that they don’t exist and then behave as if you’re accepting of all types. Give me a break. What shorter person have we seen on the runway other than Johnny Depp’s daughter? I’m pretty sick of this. Other people exist in this world that aren’t 5’9”. Acknowledge them!!

    • @aprilchow-chee5281
      @aprilchow-chee5281 3 года назад +9

      Facts

    • @lily-zv2fb
      @lily-zv2fb 3 года назад +29

      I totally agree with you. Diversity should be normal not something rare. I want to be a runway model and i am 5ft1. I will not give up until i am on a runway and on the cover of vogue. I want to show that short people are beautiful too even if they arent represented in the modelling industry. We are all beautiful and deserve to be represented. 🙂✊💙💙💙

    • @zfox4743
      @zfox4743 3 года назад +2

      .

    • @QUARTERMASTEREMI6
      @QUARTERMASTEREMI6 3 года назад +11

      Amen! The “shortest” person is Devon Aoki! Honestly, all this talk about “being diverse” is just a load of rubbish, and make it seem like the whole culture is changing.
      But like where is the short representation?! 🤔🤨

    • @lisa-montanafritzsch403
      @lisa-montanafritzsch403 3 года назад +5

      A hundred percent agreed !!!! There are a tone of beautiful small people out there

  • @fatimahalnaqi8261
    @fatimahalnaqi8261 3 года назад +542

    I feel like they're just telling us what we want to hear

    • @crubbythebeagle57
      @crubbythebeagle57 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/cMoAFU0Cqos/видео.html,
      ruclips.net/video/3bVExezIkoY/видео.html,ruclips.net/video/zXBGWPs7MIg/видео.html

    • @potatoeswithmuscles
      @potatoeswithmuscles 3 года назад +5

      Yeah exactly they aren’t actually doing it

  • @phe.mp3
    @phe.mp3 3 года назад +127

    As important as these conversations are, Vogue isn’t seeing the subtle irony here. They have so much power over the fashion industry & culture.

  • @uneedahug912
    @uneedahug912 3 года назад +161

    Talk about how agents take advantage of their new faces not giving them their money yet still want them to be perfect!

  • @LernerMara
    @LernerMara 3 года назад +678

    I’d be curious on the statistics of how many woman quit in the modeling industry? This industry sounds like the most miserable job you can have. I guess the only perks would be traveling the world and meeting new people.

    • @jbak87
      @jbak87 3 года назад +41

      Probably very high. Only a handful are supermodels at any given time. In mainstream modelling, a model's shelf life is only a few years or shorter(supermodels are an exception). They like them very young. I remember watching ANTM and one girl was 25. She was told at one go-see in Japan that she was old.

    • @underrated5210
      @underrated5210 3 года назад +5

      How about the massive amounts of money they accumulate for 2h shows/events? Though the only ones making massive amounts of money are white or Naomi Campbell or Tyra🤦🏿‍♀️

    • @abbeyoconnell4841
      @abbeyoconnell4841 3 года назад +29

      Personally, I quit after after a fashion week where I was at a fitting while the designer left me standing there in nothing but a nude g-string while he and his team absolutely berated my body right in front of me but acted like I wasn't there. Stuff like that messed me up, especially considering at the time I was only 17 and didn't feel like I had the power to stand up for myself. It's so weird when you're a model, you're treated like an object not a human (by some people in the industry anyway).

    • @belenvalenzuela2281
      @belenvalenzuela2281 3 года назад +5

      @@abbeyoconnell4841 l’m sorry you went through that

    • @daniellafrias5667
      @daniellafrias5667 3 года назад +7

      I know right. And what’s so funny is that all of these girls on tiktok think they’re going to become super models lmao

  • @j.laycraft2483
    @j.laycraft2483 3 года назад +201

    Let’s be honest, Kaia Gerber should not have been given any time whatsoever in this video on issues of diversity, representation, and prejudice in the fashion industry.

    • @christianurena510
      @christianurena510 3 года назад +20

      neither do Carla Bruni

    • @j.laycraft2483
      @j.laycraft2483 3 года назад +10

      @@christianurena510 Bella Hadid? While I mostly agree, she is half Palestinian, so that makes her position more relevant.

    • @cutlers3618
      @cutlers3618 3 года назад +20

      @@j.laycraft2483 No not really! Nobody sees Bella as Palestinian, she is using this narrative to also so say she is part POC/Minority. But we all know she is just a rich privileged white women.

    • @j.laycraft2483
      @j.laycraft2483 3 года назад +12

      @@cutlers3618 I can understand why you think her being white and privileged makes her an unsuitable fit for this video; her economic privilege alone is fair disqualifier. But, she is literally half-Palestinian and has been vocal about Palestine's plight. It ultimately doesn't matter what people see her as being; you probably wouldn't say this about a mixed race person that was half-Black but white passing.

    • @cutlers3618
      @cutlers3618 3 года назад +10

      @@j.laycraft2483 I actually wouldn't care if she had the same part in the video like Kaia G. but she is even opening and ending the conversation and thats not okay. She really had almost no struggles in the industry, cause her sister paved her the way.
      And yes, she is kind vocal about Plaestinian issues but as said before, it is more like using it to be relatable to minorities. And yes it is important how the world sees you. If we wouldn't know that she has a Palestinian Father you would never think that she isn't a "fully white us- american".
      Also yeah I would say almost the same thing to white passing mixed black person. I have done it already.

  • @phoebe109.
    @phoebe109. 3 года назад +103

    Vogue is giving very much “my best friend is a POC” I’m inclusive

    • @naobe5
      @naobe5 3 года назад +2

      😅exactly

  • @TheMichaellaangel02
    @TheMichaellaangel02 3 года назад +48

    I hate it when people are talking about diversity in size and that means just measurements.What about models who are shorter than 5'9 and get rejected all the time?

  • @georgiareed7743
    @georgiareed7743 2 года назад +23

    “Diversity” in modeling is a joke. To succeed, you must be 5’9”, thin, have perfect skin, and a symmetrical face. You have to look essentially perfect.

  • @jorrosmith164
    @jorrosmith164 3 года назад +176

    So does this mean if a plus-size or short person walks into fashion castings they’d be able to make it ?Changes have to be made at the root level rather than models being spiked to talk about this.

    • @gorgeousguerilla
      @gorgeousguerilla 3 года назад +10

      It's called PR, gurl 😂

    • @persiaazuree
      @persiaazuree 2 года назад +1

      @@hislord1 because fashion to you idiots is being white skinny tall and basic looking💀 I’m a 1000% sure you’re white so you don’t even get to talk

    • @jorrosmith164
      @jorrosmith164 2 года назад +1

      @@persiaazuree ikkr giving off extreme white energy 🥺

  • @oparahw
    @oparahw 3 года назад +34

    Lol I do not understand why Kaia and Bella Hadid are on this. Nepotism got them into the industry, so what do they really know about representation?

    • @oparahw
      @oparahw 3 года назад +4

      @@gg0496 re-read what I wrote.

    • @genevaxo
      @genevaxo 3 года назад +5

      @@gg0496 so? She honestly looks full blown European.

    • @asli9812
      @asli9812 3 года назад +1

      @@genevaxo do you not know how Palestinians look lol? Even Gigi can pass for being full Palestinian.

    • @tuopsy
      @tuopsy 2 года назад +2

      @@asli9812 yeah. i thought it was obvious that they were palestinian. why are people acting like they’re random white people lol

    • @asli9812
      @asli9812 2 года назад

      @@tuopsy People are stupid lmao

  • @sofia-rp4yz
    @sofia-rp4yz 3 года назад +42

    vogue literally has the power to change the fashion industry. they decide to make these videos to make their image seem so bright when we all know that’s not true.

  • @priyac7054
    @priyac7054 3 года назад +154

    It's so true about Asian identity.. and people thinking ASIAN looks a certain way, but often forget about South Asia or the Middle East

    • @chanelghostin6060
      @chanelghostin6060 3 года назад +6

      middle eastern ppl are not asian

    • @priyac7054
      @priyac7054 3 года назад +15

      @@chanelghostin6060 PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE AS A WHOLE. PERIOD.

    • @chanelghostin6060
      @chanelghostin6060 3 года назад +4

      @@priyac7054 they’re not asian tho?

    • @emmmyyy
      @emmmyyy 3 года назад +6

      @@chanelghostin6060 of course they are... the middle east is in asia (except for egypt)

    • @chanelghostin6060
      @chanelghostin6060 3 года назад +4

      @@emmmyyy i mean race not geography. they’re not racially asian.

  • @faerydefault
    @faerydefault 3 года назад +58

    These big stars can speak out against abuse, because they have power. Others cannot. Make it make sense

    • @JupiterSlim
      @JupiterSlim 3 года назад +9

      Exactly what I thought. Bella saying she speaks up now & won’t put up with certain things anymore. Like yeah YOU can do that bc of your name and status.. others can’t. Anyone else would be thrown off set for speaking out

    • @eliasuga4676
      @eliasuga4676 3 года назад

      She can be their voice

    • @softnpure
      @softnpure 2 года назад +1

      @@JupiterSlim yeah so she's speaking out for those who can't

  • @FreakyFreakyBaby
    @FreakyFreakyBaby 3 года назад +143

    condé nast owns vogue. condé nast is one of the most discriminatory conglomerates out there. recklessly performative.

    • @cosmefulanito7470
      @cosmefulanito7470 3 года назад +1

      Can you tell me more about that? I never thought Condé Nast could be like that

  • @musically_insane
    @musically_insane 3 года назад +61

    let't talk about vogue has actively perpetuated these beauty standards and the exclusion of anyone who isn't a cis white thin woman for decades!!!

    • @visualbeauty3427
      @visualbeauty3427 3 года назад +2

      Especially back then i remember 'skinny is fit' you know i'm saying celebrities back then are pressuring of standard 😐

    • @IdiomofSad
      @IdiomofSad 3 года назад

      You forgot to also add, tall. Cis, white, thin, and tall.

  • @shikhavyas7028
    @shikhavyas7028 3 года назад +239

    The identity of the models who are "inclusive" is basically just their race or color or size, not their personality and charm. Its like - "since you are a model that has to be represented, we are required to hire you."

    • @duke759
      @duke759 3 года назад +1

      True, but also for every model there is another thousand that look similar so you'd want enough personality and charm to be the one they remember when they are looking to be "inclusive". But you are right in that it isn't the main reason they're hired.

    • @mightytaiger3000
      @mightytaiger3000 3 года назад +6

      that's what you guys asked for. racial profiling disguised as altruism.

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 2 года назад

      Nobody cares about your personality when they’re racist dear.

    • @february6
      @february6 2 года назад

      why would we care about a MODEL'S personality lmfaooo y'all just be saying anything

  • @wo5416
    @wo5416 3 года назад +87

    “My boundaries are something that can not be crossed, can never be pushed” Ahh I love this!!!

    • @chisomo8088
      @chisomo8088 3 года назад +3

      She’s only saying that cause of who she is. She’s famous so if she says Sth people are more likely to act accordingly. What about the other girls who have no say in things concerning them and who are forced to do certain things just to have a career

  • @elleb3478
    @elleb3478 3 года назад +48

    Bella Hadid literally changed her entire face because societal beauty standards had obviously convinced her that her natural features weren’t good enough. What’s the point in this video?

    • @qytj1182
      @qytj1182 3 года назад +2

      Wheres the proof of that? Also you really gonna judge someone even if they got surgery?

    • @marielamela4243
      @marielamela4243 3 года назад +2

      @@qytj1182 just look at the comments...theres' people who called her ugly duckling and made fun of her pre-surgery but now that she had the surgery there's plenty of shallow people complimenting how much better she looks now

    • @jazzy5410
      @jazzy5410 2 года назад

      @@qytj1182 ruclips.net/video/wBC9JVdKuzI/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/UQDaYpa0Uwk/видео.html.

  • @seerpou
    @seerpou 3 года назад +211

    vogue: makes video about racism + representation
    also vogue: uses mostly white skinny models to talk about racism + representation

    • @lottaa4822
      @lottaa4822 3 года назад +26

      WTF. Your comment makes no sense. There are many black models for vogue. Ofc on skin color is More dominant. Gosh dumbest comment

    • @roxc453
      @roxc453 3 года назад +22

      @@lottaa4822 how is it dumb? I do not want to hear a white woman give her opinion on racism. I do not want to hear a woman that fits the standard give her opinion on representation. I want to hear the women who actually struggled and were victims of this to speak and give their opinions and advice bc that's the only way change will happen.

    • @lottaa4822
      @lottaa4822 3 года назад +13

      @@roxc453 you Know nothing what happend to her and her story. Black ppl can also get racist. I do not want to her a black woman talk about racism. Black ppl say always white ppl are racist and black ppl are never. When they talk about white ppl. White ppl can talk about them too.

    • @lottaa4822
      @lottaa4822 3 года назад +18

      @@bambi-se1kg And you Must be racist. Telling someone they have no rights and can’t talk bc they are white. and also stop liking your own comment. That’s embarrassing

    • @Rectumwarrior
      @Rectumwarrior 3 года назад +3

      @@lottaa4822 what’s ur point exactly

  • @beepbeep-m6m
    @beepbeep-m6m 3 года назад +104

    Genius strategy Vogue. Perpetuate existing beauty standards, continue to churn out new standards, and then pretend to speak up against them. If you really wanted change, you'd hold YOURSELVES accountable first. WE'RE TIRED OF THE HYPOCRISY.
    On that note, maybe Bella should stop denying having done any surgeries before speaking out against discrimination and unrealistic standards in the beauty industry. You're simultaneously lying to girls and perpetuating unrealistic beauty standards while pretending to speak about about said standards. Unbelievable.

  • @eyeamwema
    @eyeamwema 3 года назад +63

    Is it weird that this is about representation and Bella Hadid,,, essentially the face one womens beauty is headlining the video? Even Anoks name is second. Obviously it doesn’t NEED to be first. But wouldn’t the “bare minimum” be representing the minorities over the most paid cookie cutter beauty standard? (Cookie cutter not as in she’s generic. But as in everyone wants to look like Bella)

    • @deborahkapeo6951
      @deborahkapeo6951 3 года назад +9

      I agree but they probably did this to attract as much viewers as they can, since Bella is the most famous one. This happens all the time and every where

    • @finnlinnsone
      @finnlinnsone 3 года назад +2

      I don't think it's weird considering she's the most known out of all the other women. She's very marketable on the internet, and RUclips is no different. Whoever manages Vogue's channel did it intentionally to maximize clicks.

    • @tuopsy
      @tuopsy 2 года назад +2

      @@deborahkapeo6951 unfortunately, that’s most likely the case. i only found this video because i searched up “Bella Hadid.” i’m also a fan of Anok and when i searched her up, it took a bit of scrolling to find this video.

  • @leaan4974
    @leaan4974 3 года назад +160

    vogue isn’t the reason you/we are insecure. it’s the whole fashion industry, which vogue is a part of obviously. but they are evolving and that is amazing. they are constantly changing but vogue can’t control what dior, prada and chanel do, you know?

  • @alexinacenan3404
    @alexinacenan3404 3 года назад +25

    Anok Yai, I am super proud of you for standing your ground on keeping your hair natural, and all of you ladies, we are all humans 😍

  • @jorrosmith164
    @jorrosmith164 3 года назад +243

    It’s like they’re being spiked to put forward this narrative by Vouge. wish there was actual representation at the root level to models who’re just starting out !

  • @chelseasparrow2903
    @chelseasparrow2903 3 года назад +47

    As two white, conventionally beautiful, thin, cis-gendered women, what was the purpose Bella and Kaia in this conversation? Why give people a platform to speak on *behalf* of diverse communities rather than just letting the diverse communities speak for themselves?

    • @ivy3723
      @ivy3723 3 года назад +17

      Bella is half Palestinian, she has every right to speak about it just as much as everybody else. Stop finding a problem when there is no actual problem. If there were no white people in this video, it wouldn’t be inclusive. Stop basing people’s intentions on being white, thin, beautiful. What does that matter? At least they’re speaking out and using their platform for good, I see Bella and others, I click, if I see unknown models, I don’t. That’s the point

    • @TA12002
      @TA12002 3 года назад +7

      @@ivy3723 still white. lol, bella wasn’t “half palestinian” 3 years ago. it’s all performative

    • @ellen8961
      @ellen8961 3 года назад +1

      Because people will listen to them

    • @qytj1182
      @qytj1182 3 года назад +1

      @@TA12002 even years ago I remember her speaking up regardless of how recent she has started talking about it on her platform and going to protests and that's made a difference as more people are hearing about it

    • @chelseasparrow2903
      @chelseasparrow2903 3 года назад

      @@ivy3723 if you came here to see ‘known models’ and not marginalized women speak their truths, maybe the video wasn’t for you beloved.

  • @stayhappylittlemermaid
    @stayhappylittlemermaid 3 года назад +361

    No one is born with Positive Passion. This Power is ignited by Inspiration!

  • @peckser5alltheway
    @peckser5alltheway 3 года назад +49

    We need to see more MALE models talking about diversity. and being represented in general

  • @clintangelogamboa1519
    @clintangelogamboa1519 3 года назад +45

    Short models must also be represented! But I love the fact that we are now on the road for change!

    • @bootyhole5354
      @bootyhole5354 3 года назад +5

      Exactly! I always wanted to be a model but because of my height it's difficult ig but I'd love to see short models also

    • @1tim3_JB
      @1tim3_JB Год назад

      Same I thought about modeling once upon a time but I just felt like I’m too short

  • @lea3049
    @lea3049 3 года назад +40

    In all her 7 yrs, Bella has never seen someone being degraded in the fashion industry??

    • @garyrobinson6007
      @garyrobinson6007 3 года назад

      That’s lovely ..I’m just new here .how re you doing

    • @timbosubs7622
      @timbosubs7622 3 года назад +21

      she probably didnt realise tbh, micro agressions wont be noticed to the untrained eye aka a white skinny girl

    • @48677
      @48677 Год назад

      ​@@timbosubs7622 She’s only half white.

  • @lake2096
    @lake2096 3 года назад +86

    Hm... all I hear are affirmations. I would have preferred some more statistics about the modelling industry included. Also lets not pretend america is the only modelling industry, asia has amazing modelling industry too. Maybe they could have specified countries or brands

  • @tinkerbell34
    @tinkerbell34 3 года назад +22

    Lol ofc Bella's the one to talk about breaking the beauty standards when she modified herself to fit them perfectly 💀

  • @anareginacoronado1147
    @anareginacoronado1147 3 года назад +16

    Soo Joo Park, age 36, what a beautiful model you are. Well everyone is obviously super pretty but she's just beyond pretty.

  • @marckkenethsebastian6849
    @marckkenethsebastian6849 3 года назад +43

    "I need to fit the clothe and not the clothe to fit me."
    Omg these words are beyond my realizations.

  • @vm4532
    @vm4532 3 года назад +3

    The irony here is that they speaking against discrimination and racism and yet, Vogue gave the black models less speaking time. Wow.

  • @milaamour
    @milaamour 3 года назад +12

    so glad y'all don't have Kendall on here , Bella is genuine

  • @chloestevens4607
    @chloestevens4607 3 года назад +60

    They should talk to people who are not celebrities to get their opinion on this.

  • @tinkerbell34
    @tinkerbell34 3 года назад +5

    Not Bella stealing someone's complete Identity and talk about destructing beauty standards and inclusivity yea okay sis

  • @gorgeousguerilla
    @gorgeousguerilla 3 года назад +57

    the most privileged girl in the industry talks about representation 😂 what's wrong with you Vogue??

    • @Angela-hp2sk
      @Angela-hp2sk 3 года назад +5

      Being a nepo baby doesn’t mean u don’t make mistakes or feel insecure 💯💯😈😈😈😔🤣🤣

    • @vixxp2856
      @vixxp2856 3 года назад

      In case u didn't notice, she is not talking about herself but about other model's struggles and how she will help and stand up for them, what's unclear here or do you always have something to criticise about one of the nicest celebs out there just because her parents are rich?

  • @therealbe
    @therealbe 3 года назад +38

    Long overdue conversations

  • @CarlosG96
    @CarlosG96 3 года назад +11

    I feel like it’s also important to bring male models as well.

  • @agnescordeiro980
    @agnescordeiro980 3 года назад +23

    Bella and kaia dont suffer any kind of prejudice to be included in this issue if the idea was inclusion for non normative beauties, there are many sisters out there that could be included in this issue!

  • @sidraalmidani4191
    @sidraalmidani4191 3 года назад +72

    Vogue please we want another bueaty secrets video with Bella! Her last one was before 4 years😭

  • @leahswenson7776
    @leahswenson7776 3 года назад +9

    Let's be really honest here they don't care! they just want to sell us something. I don't believe the industry cares about body positivity or including all different kinds of people of different colors. Bella and Gigi have gotten plastic surgery to fit the industry and are super skinny. Only reason there's the tiniest bit of change is because we are sick of it but the industry most certainly couldn't care less.

    • @chisomo8088
      @chisomo8088 3 года назад +1

      Gigi hasn’t gotten plastic surgery but Bella is at her doctor’s office every other day.

    • @leahswenson7776
      @leahswenson7776 3 года назад

      @@chisomo8088 you're right I actually watch something just a day ago saying that

  • @maramma4780
    @maramma4780 3 года назад +13

    Anok is so beautiful, what an amazing woman

  • @juuliaxox
    @juuliaxox 3 года назад +6

    vogue, the fact that you included Bella Hadid in this is nothing short of laughable and just plain disrespectful to the cause

  • @Eden13_
    @Eden13_ 2 года назад +2

    I'm sorry but it is always easier when you have famous parents...Kaia, Kendall, Gigi and Bella, they don't have to suffer the industry`s abuse...

  • @jesuisdiv
    @jesuisdiv 3 года назад +77

    As a person who wants to get into this industry, it made me cry.
    We love it when models get real! It shows a lot of courage and bravery!
    🥺💕🤗

  • @ellerose94
    @ellerose94 3 года назад +26

    I really have doubts about the legitimacy of Bella Hadid in this video ... How can one be so offended by the harsh reality of the persisting standards of beauty and have had recourse to aesthetic surgery several times, as well as having lost a lot of weight to start modeling ...?

  • @annietayenjam5189
    @annietayenjam5189 3 года назад +30

    I have always wanted to be runway model ever since I knew what a modelling was and I have never been so right about making this decision of becoming a model but BECAUSE of my HEIGHT I have a lot of disadvantage but after seeing a lot a plus size model walking the ramp, breaking the stereotype of only tall, skinny models can walk the ramp, that gives me hope that one day in the further, there will be petite size model walking the ramp aswell.

    • @annietayenjam5189
      @annietayenjam5189 3 года назад +4

      @star It will.

    • @annietayenjam5189
      @annietayenjam5189 3 года назад +3

      @star but designer are starting to make clothes for the plus size models to fit so why would it be not possible for designers to start making clothes for petite size models and besides nobody is going to be 5'8 or 5'9 or any feet just like the models, half of the people coming to watch the show would be of various sizes so instead of portraying just one single size and a height why not make it more diverse. It's just my opinion but I'm sure there will be more petite size models walking the ramp. And u don't agree with me it's okay because it's your opinion and I respect that.

    • @annietayenjam5189
      @annietayenjam5189 3 года назад +3

      @star EVERYBODY'S DREAM is valid and even if the industry is not going to be changing the stereotype then I will be the one to be breaking that stereotype. I am not going to be giving up my dream just because of my height and I will prove that to everyone, mark my words.

    • @marielamela4243
      @marielamela4243 3 года назад +5

      @star maybe when they realize that around 75% of women in the world are considered ''short'' according to their standards, and those short women wont buy clothes that they have no idea how they would look like on them, maybe, just maybe, these fashion industry workers will realize who the real buying power is.

    • @misskimmy223
      @misskimmy223 2 года назад +2

      Sadly that will never happen plus, the plus size models are also tall

  • @th3rrr
    @th3rrr 3 года назад +21

    Putting Bella's name first in a conversation about representation is part of the problem

    • @asli9812
      @asli9812 3 года назад

      Shes half Arab? There are more races out there besides black and white...

  • @miagonzalez5578
    @miagonzalez5578 3 года назад +13

    It’s kinda oh hard when they talk about diversity in the modeling industry saying we have so many ppl here yet we don’t really see and Hispanic/Latinos

  • @aquamarine7705
    @aquamarine7705 3 года назад +9

    Bella is a Good hearted person. But honestly, models nowadays are more likely to be Dolls and just manequins not REAL MODELS

  • @mbr7156
    @mbr7156 3 года назад +25

    well, the "big" names can speak up and out-- their careers are already "there", but what about the ones just starting out? being "new" should never be synonymous with having no agency, regardless of profession, but it is.

    • @ipeachmango
      @ipeachmango 3 года назад +1

      I agree. Knowing that established models would stand up for what's right is so inspiring however, we do know their careers will be just fine even if they choose to decline projects. 😔

  • @rabbit5000
    @rabbit5000 3 года назад +10

    anon has one of the best faces of ALL the model generations thus far, and I believe the reason she isn't more famous is because she's not white.

  • @poppysilk365
    @poppysilk365 3 года назад +11

    It seems like this video was more to inform than to actually try to make a change. But the thing is, we’ve known about this problem in the industry. I feel like they could’ve done more. It felt a bit performative but I appreciate hearing everybody’s experiences regarding their profession.

  • @mandid1901
    @mandid1901 3 года назад +28

    they’re all so beautiful

  • @eltornado4552
    @eltornado4552 3 года назад +17

    We need more content with Bella, please 🙏 She such a sweetheart! ☺️

  • @valeriealexandra3709
    @valeriealexandra3709 3 года назад +9

    to the girl that said that she doesn’t fit into some of the same clothes at other models wear it’s not that your different. It’s just exactly the way God wanted it and that’s not a problem at all. You are not different at all. You are still a child of God and a Women❤️.

  • @acapannn
    @acapannn 3 года назад +11

    Im glad vogue bringing variety models to talk about diversity, inclusivity and representation. I would like to suggest to vogue that They should include agents, agency, creative directors, fashion designers etc that are pioneers in fighting of bringing diversity into high fashion to talk about this matter

  • @carpools5434
    @carpools5434 3 года назад +2

    i think a deeper conversation should be had around the need for women to be seen as beautiful. we can redefine beauty all we want but at the end of the day fashion is still about capitalizing on women as a product

  • @yxxng1z943
    @yxxng1z943 3 года назад +18

    im pretty sure some of them models do believe what they are saying but vogue just does this for moral obligation

  • @alexissilva8310
    @alexissilva8310 3 года назад +7

    Not Kia Gerber talking about bing little and deserving to look like some of these supermodels when she looks like her mom lols I live for her

  • @zunairaimran9842
    @zunairaimran9842 3 года назад +5

    They're all so beautiful, in their own ways. And everybody needs to be open to that.

  • @jacobolson3120
    @jacobolson3120 3 года назад +7

    I'm sure it's been soooo difficult for Kaia and Bella.

  • @joergkurth4073
    @joergkurth4073 3 года назад +7

    Ok, so all these models talk about their insecurities, lack of representation, racism, abuse, overstepping boundaries in the fashion industry. Great. But the oppressors are THE people hired by Vogue, the teams, the decision makers. It’s like you’re making your victim talk about their trauma but the abuser is still not held accountable or continues to have the freedom to continue this vicious cycle. Change comes when you start admitting you have a problem and being transparent. Why decision makers at Vogue aren’t coming out and taking responsibility to make that change? Diversity and respect is not that complicated

  • @bubeudeh
    @bubeudeh 3 года назад +4

    8:05 bella ended it perfectly.

  • @AMG92.
    @AMG92. 3 года назад +3

    The irony of Vogue making this video and *literally* setting the industry standard that these women are speaking out against. Nobody in the comments seems to be buying this performance.

  • @hannah-abbysimon2854
    @hannah-abbysimon2854 2 года назад +1

    The irony of kiah saying this as if her mother wasn’t literally the worlds most famous supermodel at one point

  • @arijansumanti
    @arijansumanti 3 года назад +4

    Thank you for put Soo Joo in this interview. She knows how speak diversity and hardworking in this fashion industry.

  • @goldenfox6451
    @goldenfox6451 3 года назад +19

    Models are back! Thanks Vogue💜🧡

  • @stanbalo
    @stanbalo 3 года назад +7

    Bella the girl who gets job instantly talks about discrimination and hardships in the industry?!?!?!

    • @Sakura-pu9sk
      @Sakura-pu9sk 3 года назад +1

      proof that u don’t know what happens behind the scenes idiot she can go through hardships especially after her supporting her country so many ppl hated on her she didn’t talk abt it tho

  • @djshockafrica4330
    @djshockafrica4330 3 года назад +3

    Vogue could become the ultimate platform in helping to break stereotypes about race and women, opening people's minds to the beauty of diversity

  • @PastelEase_Art
    @PastelEase_Art 3 года назад +13

    Vogue always supportive with female models. Where those male models. they also have issues like this.

    • @jessg101
      @jessg101 3 года назад +2

      lol, nope the extend of problems male models go through is nothing to the issues girls face. And just making videos by vogue is not "vogue doing something for girls". There is still No actual change. Unless the top level change its attitude nothing will change.

  • @huangyu-wen2530
    @huangyu-wen2530 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for this month’s issue, make me so proud of how far I came, as a little girl with ambition in fashion industry

  • @faerydefault
    @faerydefault 3 года назад +10

    Vogue says all of this, but nothing actually changes !!!

    • @MaxMustermann-hd7oe
      @MaxMustermann-hd7oe 3 года назад +1

      This is just a trend. In a few years, everything will go back to "normal".

  • @arianemariano3807
    @arianemariano3807 3 года назад +2

    This is so ridiculously hypocritical. Vogue sets all the standards & rules CHANGE.

  • @naurrrre
    @naurrrre 3 года назад +26

    bella got discriminated?
    her mom had made racist remarks, let’s just say that

    • @sadaf6275
      @sadaf6275 3 года назад +8

      Exactly, I remember watching a video where she asks Gigi's makeup artist to make her eyes look more round because she didn't "want her daughter to look Chinese"

    • @TA12002
      @TA12002 3 года назад +6

      bella too have said racist stuff towards black people. they’re all the same, it’s a family thing.

    • @qytj1182
      @qytj1182 3 года назад

      @@TA12002 could I have the links for this?

    • @qytj1182
      @qytj1182 3 года назад

      Yeah I'm assuming its because of her middle eastern side, as middle easterns have also gotten a bit of hate which is unfortunate

  • @shade5263
    @shade5263 3 года назад +37

    as much as i love videos like this, as long as anna stays at the head of vogue i’ll see it as opportunism

    • @shade5263
      @shade5263 3 года назад +3

      especially when i see how little vogue us is working with models rn, each time one of them is one the cover they already have a celebrity, i feel like they should give the newer ones a chance !

  • @vishakhasingh5295
    @vishakhasingh5295 3 года назад +12

    At no place can one size fit all. The modeling industry has made an appreciable progress but still there's a long way to go.

  • @trp8347
    @trp8347 3 года назад +3

    This video is about representation in the industry yet there isn’t even one Indian or South East Asian model included

  • @irinaermolaeva5520
    @irinaermolaeva5520 3 года назад +3

    Precious Lee can be one of the most gorgeous women i’ve ever seen so far. Can’t believe how breathtaking her beauty is!

  • @Picacommunityhub
    @Picacommunityhub 3 года назад +10

    The idea of this video is amazing ! but just look at the people in the video , most of them fit the standard that they created and that disappoints me :(