This is the beginning of the spiral of Pheobe's character. Blaming everything on Cole even though he was possessed, don't take any responsibility for her role in it, and talking about how Cole saving a woman's life is upsetting for HER.
Trying to blame Phoebe? Phoebe didn't cause Cole to keep secrets from her. She didn't cause him to hide the fact that after they vanquished the Source and re-banished the Hollow he inherited the Source's powers. He could have told her and her sisters immediately, but he didn't. Phoebe wasn't the cause of Cole lying to her, of killing the innocents he targeted during season 4. Phoebe wasn't the cause of Cole hiring the Seer to poison Phoebe and her baby to make it become evil and cause her to start becoming evil as well. Phoebe was under the control of the Seer's potion, tonics and the baby's power in season 4 when she choose Cole over her sisters, when she began to dispose of the tonics, Phoebe began to want to help her sisters again and realized she had to vanquish Cole. Blaming Phoebe for it is ridiculous.
@@Liberal_From_Prairies689 It's not blaming Pheobe. It's her not taking responsibility for her part in it all. She acts like what happened to her was inflicted on her by Cole. She chose to kill the wizard when Cole was trying to give him his source powers. She chose to become the queen of the underworld. Cole couldn't tell the sisters because the source had taken him over. He didn't have a choice in his part. And when he died and the human part was trapped in the wasteland, she wanted to get rid of him for her own sake.
Phoebe's terrible treatment of Cole really pisses me off. She was a complete bitch to him. He tried everything to be good for her and it was never enough she kept pushing him away so evil was all he had left. Phoebe was such a selfish person
@Liberal_From_Prairies689 Phoebe chooses to be queen of the underworld it was HER CHOICE.... cole was under the influence of the source maybe it was preventing him to say anything to the sisters but regardless he was POSSESSED by the source....Phoebe lied to her sisters about vanquish cole, She doomed him again in season 3 episode 20 when she smashes the potion to strip his powers then 2 episode later she went to the underworld because she mentioned cole was under evil influence when he killed the innocent even Piper says she is NAIVE, Phoebe is WORSE than cole and is partially responsible for her actions in season 4 instead of blaming Cole for everything, she is just as horrible probably worse than Cole
Wyatt summoning grams and giving her a temporary body before the sisters learned how to just showed just how powerful he was from the womb and that if Piper really wanted to she could’ve probably tapped into his power more while she was pregnant.
Phoebe should of take responsibility for her actions in season 4, I would of like her character more but meh..... the writers did an awful job with the writing in season 5
@@sifilore great, because she acting like she didn't take part in the queen of the underworld storyline.... cole isn't innocent because she tried to kill the sisters in season 3 and Phoebe was totally OK with that because she choose to let him go in season 3 episode 8, then in season 4 she vanquish the wizard and ruined his chance to be good again, she ruined his chance in episodes 3x20 when she smashes the potion to strip his powers just to go to the underworld 2 episode later stating he was been influenced , very bad writing and selfish in Phoebes end... when i was a kid I use to love her because when I was watching I wasn't paying attention to the story line but as an adult she is selfish, but I still like her thou...
@@Rayon_Rayon Its nice to see other people realize how wrong Cole was done. The sisters (rightfully) never held eachother accountable for what they did or how they acted when being influenced by evil forces. But when it happens to Cole, they threw the book at the man.
Phoebe's terrible treatment of Cole really pisses me off. She was a complete bitch to him. He tried everything to be good for her and it was never enough she kept pushing him away so evil was all he had left. Phoebe was such a selfish person
I understand Julian M wanted to leave the show, where they had to killed off his character. But, I just think Cole’s departure from the show could’ve been better without Phoebe’s resentful and nasty attitude. Phoebe knew Cole had a rough childhood, where she had premonition about his mother killing her husband. Aside from loving Phoebe, Cole loved and cared for his father which was why he must have been very fixated on getting back Benjamin’s soul from the Triads and Reynor.
@@sweetcupcake408 apparently it was his idea for how he got written off. Also I disagree her attitude wasn't nasty especially with coles stalker ass, if anything she wasn't mean enough yeah he had a hard life so has she it's not an excuse for bad behavior. The only time I can agree with her attitude is the episode where she just wouldn't let miles die and he was actually trying to help, with no ulterior motive for once.
@@Tbird0724 even Alyssa Milano herself, supports Phoebe and Cole as a couple where she wanted Phoebe to get back together with Cole in the series finale when a fan asked her if she was satisfied with Phoebe’s storyline in the final season. Their relationship may have been built on deceit in the beginning, because Cole was very private about himself, not telling Phoebe the truth, and pushing her away after dating for a short period of time. Don’t get me wrong, I can understand why Phoebe had her concerns and confusions on Cole’s mixed signals that he was sending her. What Cole did to Phoebe wasn’t any different from how Phoebe treated Jason. They dated and lived together for a while, and she should’ve told him the truth about being a Charmed One early on in their relationship.
@@sweetcupcake408it's really not though, phoebe didn't lie to Jason about who she was, stalk him trick him into conceiving with chocolates lol they're nothing alike. It's cool that Alyssa feels that way, but I'm just going to respectfully disagree with her opinon. I do think they beat his story to death he should've remained dead in season 4
I lot of people have so much faith in Cole and want Phoebe to take him back. When you date a Cole like I have you understand why she was cold to him and didn't forgive him. Cole had to many chances. When you keep trying to help change people it gets tiring and at one point you have to give up and let go. You can't change people have to want to change. He could have told the sister's many times what was going on but he didn't. He could have done right and make amends when he got out of the waste lands but no instead he became evil again and went after Phoebe and the sisters. He just wouldn't leave her alone after she told him many times that she didn't want nothing to do with him. The only thing that stopped him was for the sister to vanquish him. I'm so glad the writers made it this way to let people know that they can escape from toxic relationships. I'm glad that she ended up with Coop because he was the better man.
The whole Phoebe/Cole obsession sort of ruined the show a bit I think!! Once again the show based its story lines around relationships rather than witches and magic which is what I thought the real essence of the show was about!!
Yup I do agree on that statement Because it’s pretty true And Cole turner he’s making me laugh every time even more Because I do Love ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ way 2 much he’s always Be my one of my favorites also he doesn’t deserve too die in The first place 🥇 it makes me feel sadder every single day and He does deserve wants he’s wife Back her name was phoebe Hollowell just like the good old days that he have with her he does loves her way 2 much and he always misses her very very much it’s being harder for him anyway I do feel he’s pain Because it’s pretty good for me and him But at least he did die like 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 a SuperHero 🦸 Long Live The King 👑 he will always Be The Almighty Good God I’m a Team Cole turner Fan Forever ♾️ for The Rest Of My Life
Hated cole, nobody ever wants to see he is not the perfect innocent everyone thinks he is, he couldve told the sisters he was possesed in season 4 like piper did her best to in coyote piper, he kept secrets from her, gas lit paige tricked phoebe into getting pregnant with choclates he did a lot & dont even get me started on season 5, he wouldn't take the hint or leave her alone & it got obsessive. Phoebe has her faults, she isn't even my fave sister, i think cole ruined her character & she could never fully recover. I liked her better in season 6. I did however like how he came back to help them in season 7, i still don't know why he came back an episode after his death it made no sense.
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This is the beginning of the spiral of Pheobe's character. Blaming everything on Cole even though he was possessed, don't take any responsibility for her role in it, and talking about how Cole saving a woman's life is upsetting for HER.
Same thing I said unfair
Trying to blame Phoebe? Phoebe didn't cause Cole to keep secrets from her. She didn't cause him to hide the fact that after they vanquished the Source and re-banished the Hollow he inherited the Source's powers. He could have told her and her sisters immediately, but he didn't. Phoebe wasn't the cause of Cole lying to her, of killing the innocents he targeted during season 4. Phoebe wasn't the cause of Cole hiring the Seer to poison Phoebe and her baby to make it become evil and cause her to start becoming evil as well. Phoebe was under the control of the Seer's potion, tonics and the baby's power in season 4 when she choose Cole over her sisters, when she began to dispose of the tonics, Phoebe began to want to help her sisters again and realized she had to vanquish Cole.
Blaming Phoebe for it is ridiculous.
@@Liberal_From_Prairies689 It's not blaming Pheobe. It's her not taking responsibility for her part in it all. She acts like what happened to her was inflicted on her by Cole. She chose to kill the wizard when Cole was trying to give him his source powers. She chose to become the queen of the underworld. Cole couldn't tell the sisters because the source had taken him over. He didn't have a choice in his part. And when he died and the human part was trapped in the wasteland, she wanted to get rid of him for her own sake.
Phoebe's terrible treatment of Cole really pisses me off. She was a complete bitch to him. He tried everything to be good for her and it was never enough she kept pushing him away so evil was all he had left. Phoebe was such a selfish person
@Liberal_From_Prairies689 Phoebe chooses to be queen of the underworld it was HER CHOICE.... cole was under the influence of the source maybe it was preventing him to say anything to the sisters but regardless he was POSSESSED by the source....Phoebe lied to her sisters about vanquish cole, She doomed him again in season 3 episode 20 when she smashes the potion to strip his powers then 2 episode later she went to the underworld because she mentioned cole was under evil influence when he killed the innocent even Piper says she is NAIVE, Phoebe is WORSE than cole and is partially responsible for her actions in season 4 instead of blaming Cole for everything, she is just as horrible probably worse than Cole
Wyatt summoning grams and giving her a temporary body before the sisters learned how to just showed just how powerful he was from the womb and that if Piper really wanted to she could’ve probably tapped into his power more while she was pregnant.
But as a mother or person doing that to your child unborn /born is kinda wrong
@@Outyourspacegaming_ I don’t see how it would be wrong I’m pretty certain that tapping into his powers wouldn’t harm him whatsoever.
She did she became indestructible when fighting with Cole.
Phoebe never trusted Cole after he returned from the demonic wasteland
*Justice for Cole.*
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Phoebe should of take responsibility for her actions in season 4, I would of like her character more but meh..... the writers did an awful job with the writing in season 5
In the comics they reunite and she finally owns up to her faults in their failed relation. Thus a true reconcile.
@@sifilore great, because she acting like she didn't take part in the queen of the underworld storyline.... cole isn't innocent because she tried to kill the sisters in season 3 and Phoebe was totally OK with that because she choose to let him go in season 3 episode 8, then in season 4 she vanquish the wizard and ruined his chance to be good again, she ruined his chance in episodes 3x20 when she smashes the potion to strip his powers just to go to the underworld 2 episode later stating he was been influenced , very bad writing and selfish in Phoebes end... when i was a kid I use to love her because when I was watching I wasn't paying attention to the story line but as an adult she is selfish, but I still like her thou...
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Its nice to see other people realize how wrong Cole was done. The sisters (rightfully) never held eachother accountable for what they did or how they acted when being influenced by evil forces. But when it happens to Cole, they threw the book at the man.
Its true, phoebe should of taken responsibility in that season
Phoebe not taking responsibility for her actions towards Cole = Alyssa not taking responsibility for her actions towards Shannen: coincidence?
Who else wishes they could summon their relative from Heaven.
Why'd you skip the rest of season 2 and 3 and 4?
Phoebe's terrible treatment of Cole really pisses me off. She was a complete bitch to him. He tried everything to be good for her and it was never enough she kept pushing him away so evil was all he had left. Phoebe was such a selfish person
Respectfully going to have to disagree with you lol.
I understand Julian M wanted to leave the show, where they had to killed off his character. But, I just think Cole’s departure from the show could’ve been better without Phoebe’s resentful and nasty attitude. Phoebe knew Cole had a rough childhood, where she had premonition about his mother killing her husband. Aside from loving Phoebe, Cole loved and cared for his father which was why he must have been very fixated on getting back Benjamin’s soul from the Triads and Reynor.
@@sweetcupcake408 apparently it was his idea for how he got written off. Also I disagree her attitude wasn't nasty especially with coles stalker ass, if anything she wasn't mean enough yeah he had a hard life so has she it's not an excuse for bad behavior. The only time I can agree with her attitude is the episode where she just wouldn't let miles die and he was actually trying to help, with no ulterior motive for once.
@@Tbird0724 even Alyssa Milano herself, supports Phoebe and Cole as a couple where she wanted Phoebe to get back together with Cole in the series finale when a fan asked her if she was satisfied with Phoebe’s storyline in the final season. Their relationship may have been built on deceit in the beginning, because Cole was very private about himself, not telling Phoebe the truth, and pushing her away after dating for a short period of time. Don’t get me wrong, I can understand why Phoebe had her concerns and confusions on Cole’s mixed signals that he was sending her. What Cole did to Phoebe wasn’t any different from how Phoebe treated Jason. They dated and lived together for a while, and she should’ve told him the truth about being a Charmed One early on in their relationship.
@@sweetcupcake408it's really not though, phoebe didn't lie to Jason about who she was, stalk him trick him into conceiving with chocolates lol they're nothing alike. It's cool that Alyssa feels that way, but I'm just going to respectfully disagree with her opinon. I do think they beat his story to death he should've remained dead in season 4
She over him
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Whaat does caporal to boot means???? Thank you
Did they use the same set for the police station and the paper?
I lot of people have so much faith in Cole and want Phoebe to take him back. When you date a Cole like I have you understand why she was cold to him and didn't forgive him. Cole had to many chances. When you keep trying to help change people it gets tiring and at one point you have to give up and let go. You can't change people have to want to change. He could have told the sister's many times what was going on but he didn't. He could have done right and make amends when he got out of the waste lands but no instead he became evil again and went after Phoebe and the sisters. He just wouldn't leave her alone after she told him many times that she didn't want nothing to do with him. The only thing that stopped him was for the sister to vanquish him. I'm so glad the writers made it this way to let people know that they can escape from toxic relationships. I'm glad that she ended up with Coop because he was the better man.
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I can blame that seer in red that have cause this blaming everything on Cole like that come on it's that seer's fault.
The whole Phoebe/Cole obsession sort of ruined the show a bit I think!! Once again the show based its story lines around relationships rather than witches and magic which is what I thought the real essence of the show was about!!
Skip over the Phoebe relationship stuff and focus on the good parts instead
Yup I do agree on that statement Because it’s pretty true And Cole turner he’s making me laugh every time even more Because I do Love ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ way 2 much he’s always Be my one of my favorites also he doesn’t deserve too die in The first place 🥇 it makes me feel sadder every single day and He does deserve wants he’s wife Back her name was phoebe Hollowell just like the good old days that he have with her he does loves her way 2 much and he always misses her very very much it’s being harder for him anyway I do feel he’s pain Because it’s pretty good for me and him But at least he did die like 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 a SuperHero 🦸 Long Live The King 👑 he will always Be The Almighty Good God I’m a Team Cole turner Fan Forever ♾️ for The Rest Of My Life
Hated cole, nobody ever wants to see he is not the perfect innocent everyone thinks he is, he couldve told the sisters he was possesed in season 4 like piper did her best to in coyote piper, he kept secrets from her, gas lit paige tricked phoebe into getting pregnant with choclates he did a lot & dont even get me started on season 5, he wouldn't take the hint or leave her alone & it got obsessive. Phoebe has her faults, she isn't even my fave sister, i think cole ruined her character & she could never fully recover. I liked her better in season 6. I did however like how he came back to help them in season 7, i still don't know why he came back an episode after his death it made no sense.
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