I wasn't shocked that Alyssa came back. I was expecting it, I just wasn't sure when. When she retired, that shocked me. I could see that there was pressure on her that season from so many sides, so I could understand her wanting to take an extreme step away from skating. But I could also see that deep down she loved skating, and if she disappeared for a while, long enough for those pressure forces to vanish, she would have breathing room to decide how she felt. And when she returned, it would be on her terms and for her love of skating.
I just have to say that if you label Tatiana M as a “village skater” you should acknowledge that she was an amazing village skater. Without a big fed backing her, coming back after injury and after losing her coach, and adjusting to a new country and a new culture at the end of her long career, she’s an inspiration. And of course she won two big titles and had some awesome jumps…
Dave, with his big stained gapped teeth and eyes that bulge from his head , who was teased for being an extremely effeminate boy, is so disgusting he created Aunt Joyce’s ice cream stand to bully skaters and spread vitriol hate. He is the same person today , using slurs to reference people while receiving therapy for his self esteem.
I wasn't familiar with what Alysa was saying about figure skating on her way out. But at the 2022 Olympics and every other competition I saw her in (even as the troubles were creeping in), she always genuinely looked like she enjoyed being out on the ice on center stage. She had a unique history and upbringing, she probably just needed to get out and vent pressure and expectations out of her system, but I think she has genuine love for figure skating.
Timestamps (update randomly) - 0:08 Dave Birthday (2/22?)🎉 - 3:08 Alysa Liu coming back - 18:12 Jason Brown - 23:33 Tammy Vs Raf - 27:31 Ilia Malilin - 30:26 Dance Party theme for next 2 season (for Ice Dance) - 37:23 Katlyn Weaver - 40:25 Junior Worlds Mao vs Jia - 50:01 Jonathan is going to Worlds!🎉
If Deanna can come back & make to the top in her late 30th, why can’t Alysa come back at 18? Just hope she comes back for the love of skating, not for other reason or pressured into.
Not a bad idea. I think we’ve seen how going to school full time doesn’t go super well with being at the top of the sport. Nathan was the closest & he even knew when it was time to take a break from school. She should just go to Northern California or Canada to train if she’s serious about this comeback.
41:22 -- "Drying out" in Russian has the same meaning as "cutting" in English, as used in bodybuilding etc. I.e. you are "cutting fat" while preserving muscle, and presumably strength. It's a euphemism for losing weight.
I have a tape of that 73 worlds. He was in rare form. He threw wire and flower petals at the judges. That was the world's where Irina Rodnina and her husband's music stopped midway in their program and they kept going. Now that's figure skating.
@@BnizzofashizzoAlysa is a strong competitor. I’ve never seen her fall on anything but a 3A or quad. She only popped jumps once or twice. Even with rotation issues because she lands things she can still score between 205 and 210. If she can get back into this form, she can easily be the top US lady.
Yeah, I feel like Isabeau (or her coaching team) is a bit complacent in fixing those jumps. I hope this will push her to actually do something about it.
@@Rachel-rs7jnprobably too late. The jump technique is bad as the worst Eteri girl. She looks horizontal and parallel with the ice at some points and she doesn't look like she has the muscle strength in her legs to change form 4:36 . Also, it seems like it is hard to reorient your muscle memory. Whomever is teaching the wrong texhnique should be ousted.
Agree about Ilia, get a professional involved ASAP. I’m worried they’re going to break him any day with him doing all these crazy combos all while not being able to keep his sh*t together during important competitions.
Dave: "Worlds will be fun!" Jonathan: "I guess.... "LOL. Love this episode, thanks guys! I think Alysa going to Raf is SUCH a good idea..hopefully someone from their camp will listen to this and be inspired.
I’m glad Alysa decided to come back, but I wonder why she went for the full retirement route so quickly after Olympics 2 years ago instead of just taking a break or laying low. But then again having a skater UNretire is quite exciting it makes it more dramatic in a way. 😂
She probably thought she was legit done with the sport and only changed her mind recently. I'm glad she's back either way. We need all the ladies we can get in US figure skating right now lol
I’m one of Jason’s biggest fans, flying from the UK to Montreal for Worlds because of him and I’m genuinely worried that a Nationals performance won’t have him make the free skate … I’m worried that he’s in Japan doing shows, even if I can see he is performing his Adios short. I’ll be watching through my fingers at worlds I think!
Nah it feels like 2022 was the last Olympics. An american man slam dunked the men’s event at beijing olympics and no one in america knows who he is. I expect the same out of Ilia in America.
Happy birthday Dave! I’m also a 2/22 birthday so I also experienced watching the Winter Olympics during my birthday. Michelle’s 2002 loss was a rough birthday to say the least.
Good to see you again. You were both on fire in this video! Looking forward to the dramas and disasters in a not so predictable Worlds. I thought Dave's talk about this being the last winter Olympics for Figure Skating has been crossing my mind as well. With the loss of audience popularity, the drugging and war controversies, the judging politics, shenanigans and other headaches, and fewer known superstars, Figure Skating would be a prime candidate to be dropped from the Olympics, which already has its own problems. Add in bad music choices, dance themes and obscure/debatable judging. Climate change is already effecting many of the winter sports, with less or no snow it what were once prime areas for skiing and other outdoor winter events.
You two were in rare form today! "Worlds will be fun...." "I guess." I snorted. I am so excited Alyssa is returning because I don't believe she will compete if she believes she's unprepared. Unlike this year's Nationals..... ;)
Dave, you are literally the first person I've heard point on the sad truth about fertility with years of elite skating. I noticed a long time ago there seemed to be some connection.
I can’t BELIEVE the Olympics will be at the end of July into early AUGUST!!! That’s gonna be the HOTTEST two weeks of the year!!! They SHOULD be having them at the very beginning of June at the LATEST!!
The fact that you were so young when the 6.0 system was in place really distorts your perspective. You post the very best skaters under the old system, of course people get excited. But I watched all those competitions when I was old enough to remember, and most of the skaters weren’t that memorable. Just the very top skaters were. As for Meghan not being successful under the 6.0 system (the implicit misogyny is really strong there, btw, you’re basically saying she wasn’t feminine enough), do you remember Tara Lipinski? Won solely on the basis of jumps, looked and skated like a child. Or Brian Boitano - his strength was purely technical, he was stiff as a board on the ice and Orser always out skated him in terms of being able to move and perform. And the judging system certainly wasn’t fairer. The Eastern Bloc bias was very strong. You could see that with the way someone like Katarina Witt was blatantly held up at the 1988 Olympics. And I also remember when the obsession over the quad started. The overall skating mattered far less than jumps and that also started way before the IJS system. You’re looking at things through rose colored glasses.
I have worried about Jason’s preparation because his IG shows him constantly doing shows. Shouldn’t he be spending more time just training before Worlds? He clearly wasn’t fully prepped for Nationals.
The question is if Jason really has any particular ambitions going into Worlds, or if he is just participating for the fun of it? Not that I would blame him, he did qualify fair and square. If anything, it goes to show the bad state of US figure skating in the men's category, the fact that a semi-retired show skater qualifies for the US team at Worlds. There is Ilia and then there is nothing. We really need a few younger skaters stepping up as serious challengers over the next few years.
omg. i don't live in the US; but your comment, about the high school music teacher being like the english teacher on steroids, was on point for me. I had two HS english teachers that fit this; and the one music teacher who was a combination of the two.
Loved this episode -- thank you! Hope to run into Jonathan at World's. Wondering how the Canadanes will be received. CBC published an article about the allegations the other day.
I think that Alyssa was burnt out when she took leave and she wanted to go home and explore some other things. Now she has matured and had some time to spend figuring out what she wants to do and wants back in the game, for a little while at least. She needs to find a coach who is compatible with her and her goals. She may need to take a year off of school though or go part-time so that she can concentrate on skating.
A big part of this dance party nonsense is federations not wanting to require a pattern because their teams can’t actually do them very well. I mean Chock/Bates and Fear/Gibson can’t possibly do one.
Chock and Bates literally have three World medals from seasons where a pattern was required in the short/rhythm dance (fun fact, they won the short dance in 2015…with a pattern), but being bitchy and uninformed is way more fun, right?
Ashley Wagner said on The Runthrough recently that Rafael hates traveling and wanted to hang up his full-time dedication to elite skaters after Nathan won. I’ve heard him say this himself, too. Perhaps throw some cash his way and his mind changes, but it seems he’s not wanting to take on full-time coaching of elite skaters as of now.
Good for Alysa for coming back! But I don’t see Alysa getting that many big sponsors even as a medalist. If she’s competing against Amber, Isabeau, and Ava for star attention, she needs to work on her ig game, her skating posture, hopefully better hair and make up than last time, etc.
I don’t see the other three with big sponsors either. Amber had some opportunities during the Olympic season, but those went away after she didn’t make the team. Alysa was a part of Team Toyota. Of course Toyota isn’t sponsoring USFS anymore, but they may decide to sponsor her still if she returns and does well.
If Ilia loses gold to Kagiyama in OOGG 2026, it will be in no small part because of the striking contrast of the JPFed sending their prodigy to gain Olympic experience and the USFS sabotaging theirs in favor of a skater with cringe pop tenor programs and another skater without quads in his third Olympic cycle. And whether or not Ilia repeated his *2nd* place at 2022 Nationals is a mute point, because it’s insane to expect that he would be motivated after they benched him like that. Really hoping he gets there and stays skating for another cycle, too. Maybe Petr Gummenik (other than Shoma Uno) would be the one that would be nice to see win the whole thing.
I have to go on record that I LIKED Zingas and Kolesnik’s costumes for B&B. She’s the ”rose”, the beast is having sad dark thoughts, and Emilea looks better in red anyway. (I would have puked at another blue suit and yellow dress.) The costumes also had a distinct Tessa & Scott vibe. Good for Igor, he’s got to make up for lost time with this pair some way.
Hello guys. I know what you mean about Canada passive aggressiveness. It’s part of the culture here. Most people are so programmed they don’t even realize it. The indoctrination starts in school i think. 😢. Hopefully, skating can regain its glory one day. How far down can it fall. It needs sponsors and money. I would like to see a hybrid between government funding and personal. It’s just too expensive for most. It needs a change that’s for sure to gain exposure and interest amongst the general population
@@longarmoftheOOHLALA maybe sarcasm is different in French🤭It doesn’t bother me because I am used to it but I see where Dave is coming from. Americans seem to be generally more to the point
Talking about the 6.0 system and not rewarding big moves. Nancy’s 3/3 at the Olympics vs Oksana’s 2A 2T. In IJS that would’ve made up for her doubled flip that was supposed to be a triple.
Honestly it is tie to say farewell to alexa maybe. She has dragged on it feels and maybe it is time to focus on her marriage and family since allegedly that is a big thing for her. Training not in the same city as her husband is not the best thing for relationships. She has her world gold and olympic gold And if Russia comes back she might end up on her butt with all her unsold bags. To be clear it is her life and she has a right to do with it as she pleases but it seems Chris has compromised in the past and maybe it is Alexa turn. She is very fortunate to have world medals let a title though I thought she and Chris might do it ; it never happened. She should be happy with her many accomplishments.
Curling will have a Netflix BTS series before skating. Might be their last real hope to gain interest. Load up each scene, each and every damn scene with Smuckers, Pepsi, Lululemon PPL.
Finally a video from you guys! Idk about Alyssa’s return…in 2022 those jumps were not fully rotated and were pretty wanky. It’ll be great to see her technique now.
In defense of Tamara, the word that sounds like "intelligent" in Russia doesn't mean "smart" it's more about good manners which is a common stereotype about people from St. Petersburg (people having better manners than in Moscow).
@@b.reamsnider1328 honestly i wouldn't be mad at that! I was there and the pricing was good and I loved how easy it was going to see practices between competitions. It was a really well put together event
Question re: Nina Mozer (because I just had a flashback)... Why (whyyy) did Tatiana & Max always kiss her directly on the lips 💋 Did her other Russian skaters do that
If Alysa is in So. Cal., she should skate at Great Park w/Raf. A little drive, but she wouldn't have to drive down there daily. Or even at the Toyota Center there's Christa Fassi and Perry Jewel.
A little drive? It would take her almost 2 hours each way during the week from UCLA! The 405 would be involved. 🙄😁 On the weekends the drive down there isn't bad. But most of the top coaches don't teach on the weekend. 🤷♀️ Toyota would be her next/closest rink after Pickwick!
@@etherealtb6021 I think Pickwick has closed. All depends when she leaves Westwood. Classes until noon then drive down is totally do-able. Did that drive for 10 yrs.
@@joanmartinez8215 Pickwick hasn't closed, the bowling alley did. The drive down to deep Irvine would still be nightmarish after noon M-F. Not to mention trying to come back home during evening rush hour. 🤷♀️ Anyone who's tried driving that route at those times knows this.
What about Renee Rocca to coach Alysa? If she's a student at UCLA , Pickwick in Burbank is only a hop skip and a jump (an hour drive in traffic) away! 😁 🤷♀️ I love Paul, but we've got LOTS of top tier skating coaches here in L.A.!
@@joeyartkI just looked up her scores at the Olympics and 2022 Worlds. She had only 1 under-rotation (not including the 3A) and one Q, both on a 3T in 3Lz-3T combo. So of 20 triples (not including the 3A) and 6 3-3 combos, she had only 1UR and 1 Q.
@@skatefan9495 I'm not talking about how she was scored, I'm talking about what she actually does. We both know the US #1 at the Olympics and Worlds will not be scored the same as the average skater from most countries are.
Yep, I remember that so well because he was one of my favorites and I was there. His short program that season was brilliant and his long was a cheesy Beatles medley that didn't do anything for him. It was such a huge mistake. Also, he skated right after Jason in the free. If you watch back the U.S. feed, the commentators say "I wouldn't want to have to be the guy that skates next." Welp, that was Ricky. He had a really lame program and couldn't rise to the pressure of following Jason. Too bad, because he was really an excellent skater.
Oh all my best friends are pisces. I love you for years so it all aligns. And the things you point out, and how are you pointing the things out, how you deliver things, and how many people/fans are not liking you (hate you ;) ). as I said all makes sance.
@@deirdrekiely6187 it’s not :he is doing great with Shae Lynn Bourne :he deserves it !Talking about Malinin skating skills ?you are laughable-I think someone can’t swallow his gay comments -which I did not like ,by the way
gabby's mom is a mess, gabby didn't deserve to be on the 2016 team, her 2016 season results speaks for itself, her mom and all the politicking and the fake narrative she was needed for bars (she wasn't) resulted in a lot of extra mess that followed her to the games and beyond..
I wasn't shocked that Alyssa came back. I was expecting it, I just wasn't sure when. When she retired, that shocked me. I could see that there was pressure on her that season from so many sides, so I could understand her wanting to take an extreme step away from skating. But I could also see that deep down she loved skating, and if she disappeared for a while, long enough for those pressure forces to vanish, she would have breathing room to decide how she felt. And when she returned, it would be on her terms and for her love of skating.
I just have to say that if you label Tatiana M as a “village skater” you should acknowledge that she was an amazing village skater. Without a big fed backing her, coming back after injury and after losing her coach, and adjusting to a new country and a new culture at the end of her long career, she’s an inspiration. And of course she won two big titles and had some awesome jumps…
Dave, with his big stained gapped teeth and eyes that bulge from his head , who was teased for being an extremely effeminate boy, is so disgusting he created Aunt Joyce’s ice cream stand to bully skaters and spread vitriol hate. He is the same person today , using slurs to reference people while receiving therapy for his self esteem.
I wasn't familiar with what Alysa was saying about figure skating on her way out. But at the 2022 Olympics and every other competition I saw her in (even as the troubles were creeping in), she always genuinely looked like she enjoyed being out on the ice on center stage. She had a unique history and upbringing, she probably just needed to get out and vent pressure and expectations out of her system, but I think she has genuine love for figure skating.
Timestamps (update randomly)
- 0:08 Dave Birthday (2/22?)🎉
- 3:08 Alysa Liu coming back
- 18:12 Jason Brown
- 23:33 Tammy Vs Raf
- 27:31 Ilia Malilin
- 30:26 Dance Party theme for next 2 season (for Ice Dance)
- 37:23 Katlyn Weaver
- 40:25 Junior Worlds Mao vs Jia
- 50:01 Jonathan is going to Worlds!🎉
Thank you ❤
If Deanna can come back & make to the top in her late 30th, why can’t Alysa come back at 18? Just hope she comes back for the love of skating, not for other reason or pressured into.
I wish Alysa would get together with Brian Orser. 2 years before the Olympics. He would gather a good team.
I wish this too and very much.
Not a bad idea. I think we’ve seen how going to school full time doesn’t go super well with being at the top of the sport. Nathan was the closest & he even knew when it was time to take a break from school. She should just go to Northern California or Canada to train if she’s serious about this comeback.
Brian Orser is supposed to be retiring soon.
She should get out of Nor Cal. Being realistic there is no body here who can coach her to a championship if that’s her goal. Southern California, yes!
41:22 -- "Drying out" in Russian has the same meaning as "cutting" in English, as used in bodybuilding etc. I.e. you are "cutting fat" while preserving muscle, and presumably strength. It's a euphemism for losing weight.
"Yes, you can now say, 'That's Olympic Champion Karen Chen.' Unless someone goes and watches the video." 😭😭😭
Just couldn’t do a triple loop to save her soul. Still trying to figure how she got on the top 6 in the short.
I have a tape of that 73 worlds. He was in rare form. He threw wire and flower petals at the judges. That was the world's where Irina Rodnina and her husband's music stopped midway in their program and they kept going.
Now that's figure skating.
Please convert that. It’s amazing. Do you have the 72 Olympics? Email me. theskatinglesson@gmail.com
I'm here for Alissa's return. I still wish they would have used her on the Team event at the Olympics for the long program.
Alyssa should shake things up with the US women’s team. I was so happy to hear about it.
Excited for Alyssa to return. This should light a fire under Amber, Isabeau, Lindsay, etc.
Why? Another skater they can’t fully rotate her jumps, returning to skating, should inspire others? This isn’t exciting at all.
@@BnizzofashizzoAlysa is a strong competitor. I’ve never seen her fall on anything but a 3A or quad. She only popped jumps once or twice. Even with rotation issues because she lands things she can still score between 205 and 210. If she can get back into this form, she can easily be the top US lady.
@@daffygirl4591 dude.
Yeah, I feel like Isabeau (or her coaching team) is a bit complacent in fixing those jumps. I hope this will push her to actually do something about it.
@@Rachel-rs7jnprobably too late. The jump technique is bad as the worst Eteri girl. She looks horizontal and parallel with the ice at some points and she doesn't look like she has the muscle strength in her legs to change form 4:36 . Also, it seems like it is hard to reorient your muscle memory. Whomever is teaching the wrong texhnique should be ousted.
Agree about Ilia, get a professional involved ASAP. I’m worried they’re going to break him any day with him doing all these crazy combos all while not being able to keep his sh*t together during important competitions.
Dave: "Worlds will be fun!" Jonathan: "I guess.... "LOL. Love this episode, thanks guys! I think Alysa going to Raf is SUCH a good idea..hopefully someone from their camp will listen to this and be inspired.
I’m glad Alysa decided to come back, but I wonder why she went for the full retirement route so quickly after Olympics 2 years ago instead of just taking a break or laying low. But then again having a skater UNretire is quite exciting it makes it more dramatic in a way. 😂
She probably thought she was legit done with the sport and only changed her mind recently. I'm glad she's back either way. We need all the ladies we can get in US figure skating right now lol
@@candyc3314 yes definitely 💯🙂
Is there any practical difference between retirement and a break? I'd say none, so there isn't any actual difference.
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Not sure either but she’s still young so she has options. Russians are also gone which can make comps a bit easier. I hope to see her back on top!
I’m happy about Alyssa return. Healthy competition is good for the US ladies. They need to step up.
I’m one of Jason’s biggest fans, flying from the UK to Montreal for Worlds because of him and I’m genuinely worried that a Nationals performance won’t have him make the free skate … I’m worried that he’s in Japan doing shows, even if I can see he is performing his Adios short. I’ll be watching through my fingers at worlds I think!
i've been thinking for a couple weeks now, when is jason going to actually start training for worlds lol eeeek
I second holding US Nationals in Lithuania. 😂😂😂
Nah it feels like 2022 was the last Olympics. An american man slam dunked the men’s event at beijing olympics and no one in america knows who he is. I expect the same out of Ilia in America.
Oh, lordy, how I've missed you guys! Happy Birthday, Dave!
Thank you!
Happy birthday Dave! I’m also a 2/22 birthday so I also experienced watching the Winter Olympics during my birthday. Michelle’s 2002 loss was a rough birthday to say the least.
lol I am very nervous for Jason tbh. Also nervous for Deanna and Max but just because I want them to win so much:)
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i'm nervous for jason because he's still doing shows and not training for worlds yet eeeeks lol
Happy belated birthday, Dave! This was, as usual, an excellent This and That episode.
I missed you guys! Thanks for making my Saturday!
Our pleasure!
The pair guy who is coached by Trudy in MN is Danil Siianystsia, not Martynov. Daniel Martynov just skated at Junior Worlds in the men's event.
Ah yes. Thank you.
Noooo not guitar mass, a long buried memory 😂😂
Johnathan, so glad you are going. It might be Shoma’s last world’s. Have fun, Montreal is a great city for cultural & food.
Good to see you again. You were both on fire in this video! Looking forward to the dramas and disasters in a not so predictable Worlds. I thought Dave's talk about this being the last winter Olympics for Figure Skating has been crossing my mind as well. With the loss of audience popularity, the drugging and war controversies, the judging politics, shenanigans and other headaches, and fewer known superstars, Figure Skating would be a prime candidate to be dropped from the Olympics, which already has its own problems. Add in bad music choices, dance themes and obscure/debatable judging. Climate change is already effecting many of the winter sports, with less or no snow it what were once prime areas for skiing and other outdoor winter events.
Belated Happy Birthday David!!!🎉🎂🎁
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You two were in rare form today! "Worlds will be fun...." "I guess." I snorted. I am so excited Alyssa is returning because I don't believe she will compete if she believes she's unprepared. Unlike this year's Nationals..... ;)
I hope Polina announces her comeback next!!
Would love to see her compete again even if she won't make it to Worlds. She has a more balletic line now and would be an interesting competitor.
I would love to see Polina return too!!
Solo dance!
Dave, you are literally the first person I've heard point on the sad truth about fertility with years of elite skating. I noticed a long time ago there seemed to be some connection.
I can’t BELIEVE the Olympics will be at the end of July into early AUGUST!!! That’s gonna be the HOTTEST two weeks of the year!!! They SHOULD be having them at the very beginning of June at the LATEST!!
They didn’t have time 🕰️
The fact that you were so young when the 6.0 system was in place really distorts your perspective. You post the very best skaters under the old system, of course people get excited. But I watched all those competitions when I was old enough to remember, and most of the skaters weren’t that memorable. Just the very top skaters were. As for Meghan not being successful under the 6.0 system (the implicit misogyny is really strong there, btw, you’re basically saying she wasn’t feminine enough), do you remember Tara Lipinski? Won solely on the basis of jumps, looked and skated like a child. Or Brian Boitano - his strength was purely technical, he was stiff as a board on the ice and Orser always out skated him in terms of being able to move and perform. And the judging system certainly wasn’t fairer. The Eastern Bloc bias was very strong. You could see that with the way someone like Katarina Witt was blatantly held up at the 1988 Olympics. And I also remember when the obsession over the quad started. The overall skating mattered far less than jumps and that also started way before the IJS system. You’re looking at things through rose colored glasses.
I was just wondering where you guys had been for the last few weeks!
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I have worried about Jason’s preparation because his IG shows him constantly doing shows. Shouldn’t he be spending more time just training before Worlds? He clearly wasn’t fully prepped for Nationals.
The question is if Jason really has any particular ambitions going into Worlds, or if he is just participating for the fun of it? Not that I would blame him, he did qualify fair and square. If anything, it goes to show the bad state of US figure skating in the men's category, the fact that a semi-retired show skater qualifies for the US team at Worlds. There is Ilia and then there is nothing. We really need a few younger skaters stepping up as serious challengers over the next few years.
omg. i don't live in the US; but your comment, about the high school music teacher being like the english teacher on steroids, was on point for me. I had two HS english teachers that fit this; and the one music teacher who was a combination of the two.
Loved this episode -- thank you! Hope to run into Jonathan at World's. Wondering how the Canadanes will be received. CBC published an article about the allegations the other day.
So excited for Audrey Shin!
I hope to see Jonathan at Worlds. I will be upstairs because, yes, those tickets were expensive.
Why are they sending people to Tammy?
I think that Alyssa was burnt out when she took leave and she wanted to go home and explore some other things. Now she has matured and had some time to spend figuring out what she wants to do and wants back in the game, for a little while at least. She needs to find a coach who is compatible with her and her goals. She may need to take a year off of school though or go part-time so that she can concentrate on skating.
The politics of the dark arts 😂😂😂
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Tammy gambill picks bland music and coaches chronic underrotaters. I really don’t get it.
Is it an ep of the skating lesson if you dont gasp a few times listening 😂
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A big part of this dance party nonsense is federations not wanting to require a pattern because their teams can’t actually do them very well. I mean Chock/Bates and Fear/Gibson can’t possibly do one.
Chock and Bates did it for years, although never were the best at it.
Chock and Bates literally have three World medals from seasons where a pattern was required in the short/rhythm dance (fun fact, they won the short dance in 2015…with a pattern), but being bitchy and uninformed is way more fun, right?
The Chock and Bates haters continue. 🤷🏻♀️
Ashley Wagner said on The Runthrough recently that Rafael hates traveling and wanted to hang up his full-time dedication to elite skaters after Nathan won. I’ve heard him say this himself, too. Perhaps throw some cash his way and his mind changes, but it seems he’s not wanting to take on full-time coaching of elite skaters as of now.
He told me he would travel for the right student with complete commitment. I talked to him about two weeks ago.
Good for Alysa for coming back! But I don’t see Alysa getting that many big sponsors even as a medalist. If she’s competing against Amber, Isabeau, and Ava for star attention, she needs to work on her ig game, her skating posture, hopefully better hair and make up than last time, etc.
I don’t see the other three with big sponsors either. Amber had some opportunities during the Olympic season, but those went away after she didn’t make the team. Alysa was a part of Team Toyota. Of course Toyota isn’t sponsoring USFS anymore, but they may decide to sponsor her still if she returns and does well.
20th Century Dance Party feels like a recipe for those wild medleys of the 80s. I feel like the best case scenario will be NCAA style floor medleys
Aqua net and shoulder pads…, oh how I miss this era! 😢
If Ilia loses gold to Kagiyama in OOGG 2026, it will be in no small part because of the striking contrast of the JPFed sending their prodigy to gain Olympic experience and the USFS sabotaging theirs in favor of a skater with cringe pop tenor programs and another skater without quads in his third Olympic cycle. And whether or not Ilia repeated his *2nd* place at 2022 Nationals is a mute point, because it’s insane to expect that he would be motivated after they benched him like that.
Really hoping he gets there and stays skating for another cycle, too. Maybe Petr Gummenik (other than Shoma Uno) would be the one that would be nice to see win the whole thing.
Vladislav Dikidzhi could be the “quad god” if he’s smart with his brand. Hopefully things work out for Ilia
Who had cringe pop tenor programs? Yuma went to 4 Conts 2020 as a senior..for the record..
Right on! The dislike is evident, Now you add parents? Is this still about his response to a stupid question 2 years ago?
Question for Jonathan! What is that amazing art piece behind you? I love it!
It’s actually a framed piece of fabric wall paper from Arte :)
Jonathan, you're going to Worlds! I hope you don't mind if I fangirl you if I see you! 😍
Mark Militano skated with great posture and a nice spread eagle..no bent legs!
Yes indeed!
32:40 Will we at least get to see the pattern in juniors next season? Hoping for a waltz in the near future 🤞
I have to go on record that I LIKED Zingas and Kolesnik’s costumes for B&B. She’s the ”rose”, the beast is having sad dark thoughts, and Emilea looks better in red anyway. (I would have puked at another blue suit and yellow dress.) The costumes also had a distinct Tessa & Scott vibe. Good for Igor, he’s got to make up for lost time with this pair some way.
Hello guys. I know what you mean about Canada passive aggressiveness. It’s part of the culture here. Most people are so programmed they don’t even realize it. The indoctrination starts in school i think. 😢. Hopefully, skating can regain its glory one day. How far down can it fall. It needs sponsors and money. I would like to see a hybrid between government funding and personal. It’s just too expensive for most. It needs a change that’s for sure to gain exposure and interest amongst the general population
@@longarmoftheOOHLALA maybe sarcasm is different in French🤭It doesn’t bother me because I am used to it but I see where Dave is coming from. Americans seem to be generally more to the point
If they are doing a 20th Century dance party does the Lindy Hop to Sing Sing Sing count?
Wait, what? Am I hearing right, that dance party is next season's Rhythm dance same question mark
Correct.
Talking about the 6.0 system and not rewarding big moves. Nancy’s 3/3 at the Olympics vs Oksana’s 2A 2T. In IJS that would’ve made up for her doubled flip that was supposed to be a triple.
I never clicked so fast!
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Honestly it is tie to say farewell to alexa maybe. She has dragged on it feels and maybe it is time to focus on her marriage and family since allegedly that is a big thing for her. Training not in the same city as her husband is not the best thing for relationships. She has her world gold and olympic gold And if Russia comes back she might end up on her butt with all her unsold bags. To be clear it is her life and she has a right to do with it as she pleases but it seems Chris has compromised in the past and maybe it is Alexa turn. She is very fortunate to have world medals let a title though I thought she and Chris might do it ; it never happened. She should be happy with her many accomplishments.
Her husband could coach her.
Curling will have a Netflix BTS series before skating. Might be their last real hope to gain interest. Load up each scene, each and every damn scene with Smuckers, Pepsi, Lululemon PPL.
Glad she's going back to Massimo, he gave her the most beautiful programs in the last olympics. Paul would be a great addition.
Jonathan Montreal is so pretty! Regardless of the world's you'll have a fun time. Also the weather is excellent now 😊
Finally a video from you guys!
Idk about Alyssa’s return…in 2022 those jumps were not fully rotated and were pretty wanky. It’ll be great to see her technique now.
I still have faith in Jason! 😊
Yes! I still have my campbell soup mug!
I don’t know who’s Tammy?
"I woke up on my birthday, Kristi had won, and the rest is history" 😹😹😹
PS: I named my doggy Kristi
Great taste!
It was such a big deal to be allowed to stay up to watch Kristi skate!🎉
So what do we have to do to get this Mark Militano 73 footage on the channel, b/c that sounds hysterical!!!
Patreon
Great show!!! 👏 👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Quote of the video: "it's just a dirty world, and the longer people stay in it, the longer they go nuts and lose sense of who they are as people".
could you make a video about the debut of the couple kaganovskaya/nekrasov at the russian challenge?
Did y’all say that Chock and Bates have left Marie and Patrice and them?! Boy have I not been keeping up!! Or did I misunderstand??
No. We did not say that.
In defense of Tamara, the word that sounds like "intelligent" in Russia doesn't mean "smart" it's more about good manners which is a common stereotype about people from St. Petersburg (people having better manners than in Moscow).
Do you know the clip we are referring to?
@@TheSkatingLesson no, but I would gladly check it. I've just seen the mistake enough times
I’ve been curious about the nationals 2025…
Not a great sign.
Maybe Columbus, Ohio again? 🤞🏾
@@b.reamsnider1328 honestly i wouldn't be mad at that! I was there and the pricing was good and I loved how easy it was going to see practices between competitions. It was a really well put together event
Timothy and Alexa YAS!!!!
Dave: “Russians have all African American gymnasts, which is comedy in itself…” 😕 huh? Context?
Yes, more details please!
I think he means the Russian coaches and African American athletes (gymnasts).
Haha, I'm an English teacher and a music teacher.
Question re: Nina Mozer (because I just had a flashback)... Why (whyyy) did Tatiana & Max always kiss her directly on the lips 💋 Did her other Russian skaters do that
If Alysa is in So. Cal., she should skate at Great Park w/Raf. A little drive, but she wouldn't have to drive down there daily. Or even at the Toyota Center there's Christa Fassi and Perry Jewel.
A little drive? It would take her almost 2 hours each way during the week from UCLA! The 405 would be involved. 🙄😁 On the weekends the drive down there isn't bad. But most of the top coaches don't teach on the weekend. 🤷♀️ Toyota would be her next/closest rink after Pickwick!
@@etherealtb6021 I think Pickwick has closed. All depends when she leaves Westwood. Classes until noon then drive down is totally do-able. Did that drive for 10 yrs.
@@joanmartinez8215 Pickwick hasn't closed, the bowling alley did.
The drive down to deep Irvine would still be nightmarish after noon M-F. Not to mention trying to come back home during evening rush hour. 🤷♀️ Anyone who's tried driving that route at those times knows this.
What about Renee Rocca to coach Alysa? If she's a student at UCLA , Pickwick in Burbank is only a hop skip and a jump (an hour drive in traffic) away! 😁 🤷♀️ I love Paul, but we've got LOTS of top tier skating coaches here in L.A.!
She could definitely help her skating skills
@@TheSkatingLesson Exactly! And choreograph some decent programs!
Will Liu be able to rotate her triples? She really couldn't do it before.
I think she will be stronger. She was probably training off ice.
She rotated her triples before, except the 3A.
@@skatefan9495 certainly not her 3/3 combos.
@@joeyartkI just looked up her scores at the Olympics and 2022 Worlds. She had only 1 under-rotation (not including the 3A) and one Q, both on a 3T in 3Lz-3T combo. So of 20 triples (not including the 3A) and 6 3-3 combos, she had only 1UR and 1 Q.
@@skatefan9495 I'm not talking about how she was scored, I'm talking about what she actually does. We both know the US #1 at the Olympics and Worlds will not be scored the same as the average skater from most countries are.
Ricky had a great sp at 2014 US Champs..then bombed the FS
Correct. He wasn’t able to put it all together ever again.
Yep, I remember that so well because he was one of my favorites and I was there. His short program that season was brilliant and his long was a cheesy Beatles medley that didn't do anything for him. It was such a huge mistake. Also, he skated right after Jason in the free. If you watch back the U.S. feed, the commentators say "I wouldn't want to have to be the guy that skates next." Welp, that was Ricky. He had a really lame program and couldn't rise to the pressure of following Jason. Too bad, because he was really an excellent skater.
Beatles medley should be banned.
Worked for Adam Rippon!
@@deirdrekiely6187
Let's be honest, without Russian figure skating, it doesn't matter. The ISU does nothing to promote the popularity of this sport.
Tammy's never coached a champion besides Karen, and Karen's a headcase.
how is karen a headcase
Omg is Dave pisces?
I undesrand now.
lol. How so?
Oh all my best friends are pisces. I love you for years so it all aligns.
And the things you point out, and how are you pointing the things out, how you deliver things,
and how many people/fans are not liking you (hate you ;) ). as I said all makes sance.
Pisces are extra.
omg... this one is so juicy haha
Ilya Does not need -Rafael :he needs -Shae Lynn Bourne-that’s who and all he needs !
LOL :can’t help :you do hate Malinin -so obvious
Zero hate
@@TheSkatingLesson why would you digging into what judge gave him what and the connections ?
@@TheSkatingLessonhe is more appealing if you overslept:thanks to Shae Lynn Bourne 👌
@ingai7014 He's "digging in" because he's 100% right. Ilia is not anywhere near a 9.0 in skating skills so to get a score near 10 is laughable.
@@deirdrekiely6187 it’s not :he is doing great with Shae Lynn Bourne :he deserves it !Talking about Malinin skating skills ?you are laughable-I think someone can’t swallow his gay comments -which I did not like ,by the way
Someone please tell Jason to stop doing shows and start training for worlds he's making me so nervous lol
gabby's mom is a mess, gabby didn't deserve to be on the 2016 team, her 2016 season results speaks for itself, her mom and all the politicking and the fake narrative she was needed for bars (she wasn't) resulted in a lot of extra mess that followed her to the games and beyond..