+Ponnusamy Muthaya: Unlike other issues championed by NDTV, in this case there is a clear cut authority on the matter: The legal fraternity, who has rejected the motion at the outset.
Fali Nariman says that the four judges should come out and clarify to the nation as to whether they doubted the integrity of the Chief Justice. Especially Gogoi who can perhaps be a next Chief Justice after the retirement of present Chief Justice. I do not think this is possible as Gogoi can never be a candidate for the next Chief Justice due to his misbehavior to demean the Chief Justice and inadvertently though demean the constitution of India and the National. Now regarding the desperate efforts of the sixty pro motion MPs my following comment may kindly be read: "CJI who is the highest judiciary power is a protector of law and justice and hence must have ability as well as purity in his personal, private as well as public life. Whereas in the article 124 clause 4 of the constitution the word "Incapacitated" relates to the Judge's ability (sound mental and physical condition) to perform his duty, the word "Proven Behavior" relates to the purity the judge has to show in his personal, private and public life. If a judge say is alcoholic (personal life) or say involves in domestic violence (private life) or say has committed public offence / crime so that local police has filed FIR against the judge (public life) then misbehavior can be considered as "Proven Misbehavior" So the word "Proven Misbehavior " according to my understanding is a deterrent so that a judge who is a protector of law and justice would show purity in his own life . If the judge shows "On Duty" misbehavior then it is the internal matter of the judiciary and they must be having internal mechanism to address such matter. So in my opinion there is no FIR against CJI and hence the notice for Impeachment has failed to satisfy the "proven Misbehavior" . No notice or writ petition can become admissible therefore on the basis of alleged misbehavior. Otherwise there would be political invasions in judiciary. Nation expect some strong resistance or deterrent to stop such political "proven Misbehavior" so that there won't be any dirty political attempt to damage the dignity and honor of the judiciary and the Nation. Probably some punishment to such over adventure can be contemplated. New India which has taken the birth need such reforms so that in future judiciary does not stand on political crutches or stick."
Chief Justice of India is a very authoritative and powerful figure. No agency or institution can investigate a matter regarding him with complete independence or effectiveness - precisely the reason, you can't wait for anything like a substantial proof to come up before impeaching him. Proof or No-proof will only come up after inquiry, which is not made to happen. It's the classic chicken or egg problem.
Kapil Sibbal has clarified that he didn't approach Dr Manmohan Singh or Devegauda or others who didn't sign because the required no of 50 was already complete.
He says " Impeachment motion" is very serious matter. Which needs to be resolved seriously. Wheather, the constitutional processes are followed or being followed to resolve such serious matter. If yes, what is the constitutional processes? Why it is not followed, If considered it as " Respectfull Institute! Is the chairman of Rajya sabha alone can reject the " Motion" without followed the due legal process? Is it not amounts to misuse of power arbitraterly? Are all elected members of parliament are useless? Is it the constitution provides previlage to MPs in India? So many doubts generated in minds of public by highest authorities of GOVT institutions. Is it fair?
She is not prepared for an interview. Nariman is frustrated because she is asking irrelevant questions. Important questions like the independence of the judiciary, political interference, public perceptions about the judiciary are not raise.
Serious Charges "existence" is more important than as to when it was raised. Merely because it was not listed by 4 Judges in their allegation or the Motion was not signed by former PMs is not relevant in entertaining the Motion. Higher the Position the Harsher are the standard of rectitude expected.
Kapil Sibal had answered already that Congress didn't go to Manmohan Singh for signing. Mr. Nariman backtracked on his stance that charges mentioned in petition are not serious.He then says that they are serious, but there's no substance in it. Also, he didn't answer whether VP is a quasi judicial or judicial authority to decide on the substance of the petition or not.And it's surprising that NDTV, even after getting the point of view of Kapil Sibal, as to why the VP order is illegal, did not ask Fali Nariman the same.
It's incorrect on part of nariman that next CJI would be within the 4 senior judges. Wait and watch the next CJI of A.C would certainly be " SIKRI". Confirms from past 2 years of his judgements.
We the people are forgetting who we are.. legislature is weakest leg.. out of four.. judiciary has it's own business.. they are not teachers of this nation..
Mr. Nariman knowingly and unknowingly killed respect that public has on him. How he knows what public is unhappy now? And why public should not know about the all the conspiracy behind the back of public.
Other side of the coin needs to be seen.... Can't there be silent inquiry carried out as to charges leveled against CJI without paralyzing his functioning... Plz anyone enlight on this
Sabuj Jana :- i get it as this respected expert is from minority u dont want to listen. thts ur choice. but i will rather hear a 50 yr experience guy thn ur blubbering have nice day & bye
Shashidharan ---- when some say that certain benches are fixed without proof they ARE FRAUDS. In cases heard by more than one judge -- often different conclusions are given by individual judges AND THE MAJORITY VIEW PREVAILS ----- that may not be always right --- BUT THAT IS THE LAW AND WE HAVE DECIDED TO ACCEPT THAT
Mr.Nariman , let allegations against CJI should be forwarded to inquiry committee to decide the Merritt of allegations, suitable or not for furthering the requested process . Rather motivated opinions of some authorities .
Some of the opposition parties led by Congress do not have any people's support and have now come up desperately with some vague, unproven and facetious charges for their own ulterior political motives without any regard to the harm it is trying to bring to the country's top Judiciary in the process. How low can our some politicians go. SHAME SHAME;;;
Cris Angle what's wrong if it's investigated without prejudice in mind. Specifically if some one is sitting at such an important post. Dismissing the petition shows arrogance.
Ajay Yadav Dismissing everything under the law , even monmohan , salman khurshid alike not supporting , i have seen signature of MP retired one month before this movement so they have signed this before month which tells what , this whole game has been played by sibbal to .....
Ashika Raut who's funding now? If allegations of Members of parliament will not be investigated by Government because they consider there fellow parliamentarians as kutta, saap, chachundar then what to expect for petitions of citizens which they may have perceived not more than insects.
He is looking like not followed anything in this regard. I respect him a lot, but not in this context. He should have some thought for the interest of public beyond all process and norms. He should be serious beyond his 'knowledge' and some fancy views.
Uday Bhaskar yes Fali s reasoning is absurd, he says CJ is retiring in few months and opposition have no numbers, it’s like saying if a 90 year murder accused on trial shouldn’t be tried because he will die before the trial completed Lol
NDTV appears to be very disappointed.
Muthaya -- naturally !
+Ponnusamy Muthaya: Unlike other issues championed by NDTV, in this case there is a clear cut authority on the matter: The legal fraternity, who has rejected the motion at the outset.
Ponnusamy Muthaya i can understand the how difficult situation is being faced by the great laal journalist ravish kumar. I pity on you
Ponnusamy Muthaya ,because nervous is anti BJP and anti Indian Chanel
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Ponnusamy Muthaya nothing is above democracy or law , not even CJI
SUNETRA TRIED HER BEST , BUT LOST TO FAALI
Fali Nariman says that the four judges should come out and clarify to the nation as to whether they doubted the integrity of the Chief Justice. Especially Gogoi who can perhaps be a next Chief Justice after the retirement of present Chief Justice. I do not think this is possible as Gogoi can never be a candidate for the next Chief Justice due to his misbehavior to demean the Chief Justice and inadvertently though demean the constitution of India and the National. Now regarding the desperate efforts of the sixty pro motion MPs my following comment may kindly be read: "CJI who is the highest judiciary power is a protector of law and justice and hence must have ability as well as purity in his personal, private as well as public life. Whereas in the article 124 clause 4 of the constitution the word "Incapacitated" relates to the Judge's ability (sound mental and physical condition) to perform his duty, the word "Proven Behavior" relates to the purity the judge has to show in his personal, private and public life. If a judge say is alcoholic (personal life) or say involves in domestic violence (private life) or say has committed public offence / crime so that local police has filed FIR against the judge (public life) then misbehavior can be considered as "Proven Misbehavior" So the word "Proven Misbehavior " according to my understanding is a deterrent so that a judge who is a protector of law and justice would show purity in his own life . If the judge shows "On Duty" misbehavior then it is the internal matter of the judiciary and they must be having internal mechanism to address such matter. So in my opinion there is no FIR against CJI and hence the notice for Impeachment has failed to satisfy the "proven Misbehavior" . No notice or writ petition can become admissible therefore on the basis of alleged misbehavior. Otherwise there would be political invasions in judiciary. Nation expect some strong resistance or deterrent to stop such political "proven Misbehavior" so that there won't be any dirty political attempt to damage the dignity and honor of the judiciary and the Nation. Probably some punishment to such over adventure can be contemplated. New India which has taken the birth need such reforms so that in future judiciary does not stand on political crutches or stick."
Chief Justice of India is a very authoritative and powerful figure. No agency or institution can investigate a matter regarding him with complete independence or effectiveness - precisely the reason, you can't wait for anything like a substantial proof to come up before impeaching him. Proof or No-proof will only come up after inquiry, which is not made to happen. It's the classic chicken or egg problem.
Kapil Sibbal has clarified that he didn't approach Dr Manmohan Singh or Devegauda or others who didn't sign because the required no of 50 was already complete.
Share the entire program NDTV... Don't act smart... You or anyone else CANNOT save Congress...!!
One of the great legal mind in India. God bless you sir.
He says " Impeachment motion" is very serious matter. Which needs to be resolved seriously.
Wheather, the constitutional processes are followed or being followed to resolve such serious matter. If yes, what is the constitutional processes?
Why it is not followed, If considered it as " Respectfull Institute!
Is the chairman of Rajya sabha alone can reject the " Motion" without followed the due legal process? Is it not amounts to misuse of power arbitraterly?
Are all elected members of parliament are useless? Is it the constitution provides previlage to MPs in India?
So many doubts generated in minds of public by highest authorities of GOVT institutions. Is it fair?
Sad for the lady . She was promised a bonus if she could put words in Mr Nariman's mouth . Sad for her he was firm .... !☺️
Haha ..egg on the face of NDTV, the wire and congi Pappus. When their own renowned supporters give them up
exactly
Vikas Ahlawat "EGG ON FACE"
FD DEMOCRACY, U THINK JUSTICE LOHIA HAD A NATURAL DEATH ; LOL
ASK Mr Shah
Don't you get that this testifies that NDTV is doing neutral journalism.
The interviewer of NDTV seems to be biased
She is not prepared for an interview. Nariman is frustrated because she is asking irrelevant questions. Important questions like the independence of the judiciary, political interference, public perceptions about the judiciary are not raise.
Serious Charges "existence" is more important than as to when it was raised.
Merely because it was not listed by 4 Judges in their allegation or the Motion was not signed by former PMs is not relevant in entertaining the Motion.
Higher the Position the Harsher are the standard of rectitude expected.
Kapil Sibal had answered already that Congress didn't go to Manmohan Singh for signing.
Mr. Nariman backtracked on his stance that charges mentioned in petition are not serious.He then says that they are serious, but there's no substance in it.
Also, he didn't answer whether VP is a quasi judicial or judicial authority to decide on the substance of the petition or not.And it's surprising that NDTV, even after getting the point of view of Kapil Sibal, as to why the VP order is illegal, did not ask Fali Nariman the same.
Without investigating the allegations the motion is rejected?
Really you kicking on face
It's incorrect on part of nariman that next CJI would be within the 4 senior judges.
Wait and watch the next CJI of A.C would certainly be " SIKRI".
Confirms from past 2 years of his judgements.
We the people are forgetting who we are.. legislature is weakest leg.. out of four.. judiciary has it's own business.. they are not teachers of this nation..
Mr. Nariman knowingly and unknowingly killed respect that public has on him. How he knows what public is unhappy now? And why public should not know about the all the conspiracy behind the back of public.
Ah, the wit of the man, when he goes quite right while the journalist is saying quite naive when it comes to matters of law
Impeachment is not right all 31 judges of supreme Court should resolve this matter by discussing and meeting chill indians
ANTINATIONAL NDTV IS NOT HAPPY WITH SENIOR ADVOCATE FALI NARIMAN
Who is this anchor to say the charges are serious AFTER THE CHAIRMAN OF THE RAJYA SABHA has clearly shown they are wild allegations without any proof
Impeach those four judges
The Complainant/s CAN NEVER BECOME THE JUDGE/S TOO in any case
Other side of the coin needs to be seen.... Can't there be silent inquiry carried out as to charges leveled against CJI without paralyzing his functioning... Plz anyone enlight on this
Priti Pande:- its already done whn cong government was in power
it's cong. government who appoint judge Mishra as sc judge nt present government !!
No it can't be done according to Judge's Inquiry Act
Sabuj Jana :- is tht why cong. government appoint him as SC Judge in 1st place? here respectable expert telling u it's wrong still u accusing VP
Sabuj Jana :- i get it
as this respected expert is from minority u dont want to listen. thts ur choice.
but i will rather hear a 50 yr experience guy thn ur blubbering
have nice day & bye
Mishra has left a legacy of fixing and spineless judiciary duly followed by his successors
Nariman Sir abuses NDTV People and Congress intention very badly..
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NDTV is showing its true colour
This testifies that unlike the chaddi supporting news channel, NDTV is doing a decent, neutral & fair journalism.
BJP & Congress are two faces of same coin .. which is ruled by same class, so we need find alternative way
Nariman is not right in his analysis
Retired MPs only sing on the petition
Music
This man is not worried about the alleged bench fixing by the CJI and the corruption charges against the CJI?
Shashidharan ---- when some say that certain benches are fixed without proof they ARE FRAUDS. In cases heard by more than one judge -- often different conclusions are given by individual judges AND THE MAJORITY VIEW PREVAILS ----- that may not be always right --- BUT THAT IS THE LAW AND WE HAVE DECIDED TO ACCEPT THAT
Sashidharan -- what are the corruption charges against the CJI ?
This Anchor needs a Class from Rajpeep...bcoz it is very apparent wat she is trying to do here. 😂😂
Big slap on you NDTV
Mr.Nariman , let allegations against CJI should be forwarded to inquiry committee to decide the Merritt of allegations, suitable or not for furthering the requested process . Rather motivated opinions of some authorities .
Some of the opposition parties led by Congress do not have any people's support and have now come up desperately with some vague, unproven and facetious charges for their own ulterior political motives without any regard to the harm it is trying to bring to the country's top Judiciary in the process. How low can our some politicians go. SHAME SHAME;;;
If applications of MPs are put in dustbin . Then what would happen to application of common man can imagine.
* politically motivated application. Many mps, judges support cji.what would happen to their applications?
Cris Angle what's wrong if it's investigated without prejudice in mind. Specifically if some one is sitting at such an important post. Dismissing the petition shows arrogance.
Ajay Yadav
Dismissing everything under the law , even monmohan , salman khurshid alike not supporting , i have seen signature of MP retired one month before this movement so they have signed this before month which tells what , this whole game has been played by sibbal to .....
Ajay Yadav who will fund that investigation? You?if we start investigating all allegation, all our resources will be wasted in investigation.
Ashika Raut who's funding now? If allegations of Members of parliament will not be investigated by Government because they consider there fellow parliamentarians as kutta, saap, chachundar then what to expect for petitions of citizens which they may have perceived not more than insects.
Looser Congress
He is looking like not followed anything in this regard. I respect him a lot, but not in this context. He should have some thought for the interest of public beyond all process and norms. He should be serious beyond his 'knowledge' and some fancy views.
Uday Bhaskar yes Fali s reasoning is absurd, he says CJ is retiring in few months and opposition have no numbers, it’s like saying if a 90 year murder accused on trial shouldn’t be tried because he will die before the trial completed Lol
Uday Bhaskar -- which is why you ARE WHERE YOU ARE and he is where he is