大洪水過後... 驚天駭俗的事發生了 \ Final generation 最後世代 \ DK
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- 上古時期，挪亞方舟，洪水過後發生了驚人的事件。 繼亞當與夏娃，挪亞一家八口成為人類第二次繁衍地球的唯一希望，挪亞三個兒子，閃，含，雅弗，肩負著重責大任。 然而含犯了一個滔天之罪，導致他的兒子迦南要付上代價。 究竟是發生了甚麼驚天動地的事? 本視頻將顛覆你的所有認知。
這位牧師有更完整的分析解說
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** 神當初提醒以色列人進入迦南時，一定不可照他們的惡俗行，然後就提到不可露你母親的下體、羞辱了你父親。 這是神再三提醒進入迦南前一定要記住的。**
利未記
18:1耶和華對摩西說、
18:2你曉諭以色列人說、我是耶和華你們的 神。
18:3你們從前住的埃及地、那裏人的行為、你們不可效法、我要領你們到的迦南地、那裏人的行為、也不可效法．也不可照他們的惡俗行。
18:4你們要遵我的典章、守我的律例、按此而行．我是耶和華你們的 神。
18:5所以你們要守我的律例、典章．人若遵行、就必因此活着．我是耶和華。
18:6你們都不可露骨肉之親的下體、親近他們．我是耶和華。
18:7不可露你母親的下體、羞辱了你父親．他是你的母親、不可露他的下體。
18:8不可露你繼母的下體、這本是你父親的下體。
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謝謝大衛弟兄的視頻。願慈愛的天父看顧您。
大衛！感谢您的講解👏👏💪🙏
谢谢大衛
父母是孩子一生中最重要的老師. 父母的言行必定會影響孩子的一生.
遗传包括看得见的及看不见的病理、意識形態等等.
成年的孩子人格已形成,不容易改變.
养出那样的孩子,最伤心的還是父母自己.
人的行爲由逐渐形成的心思意念和外在的因素决定.
如果人明白神在人的生命里如何工作,多會敬畏那大而可畏的神.
愿主而来的圣靈洁净人那污秽的灵,结出生命的果子.
谢谢大卫对传福音受挫的鼓励✌️
讚! 凡信主的就得赦免，阿門。David弟兄 沒有得罪我，我給您點讚。謝謝精闢解說，受益了，謝謝🥰😊
啟示錄 14:12
聖徒的忍耐就在此．他們是守 神誡命、和耶穌真道的。
啟示錄 12:17
龍向婦人發怒、去與他其餘的兒女爭戰、這兒女就是那守 神誡命、
為耶穌作見證的。那時龍 就站在海邊的沙上。
馬太福音 19:18
他說、甚麼誡命．耶穌說、就是不可殺人、不可姦淫、不可偷盜、不可作假見證、
馬太福音 19:19
當孝敬父母．又當愛人如己。
馬太福音 19:20 那少年人說、這一切我都遵守了．還缺少甚麼呢。
馬太福音 19:21
耶穌說、你若願意作完全人、可去變賣你所有的、分給窮人、就必有財寶在天上、你還要來跟從我。
哥林多前書 7:19
受割禮算不得甚麼、
不受割禮也算不得甚麼、
只要守 神的誡命就是了。
約翰一書 5:3
>>> 我們遵守 神的誡命、這就是愛他了．
喜欢您的解经👍🏻👍🏻
哇哇，第一次聽到這樣的演繹，讓我再想想🤔
我聽的版本是在我教會的主日學那兒說的，說是洪水以前，人犯錯是向前詛咒，所以地受到詛咒，洪水以後不能向前詛咒，所以向後詛咒，所以含的小兒子就受到詛咒了。
那個版本是說含的錯是沒有即時幫父親遮蓋身子，反而跑去告訴自己的兄弟，讓他的兩位兄弟去處理，自己反而什麼也不做，這版本的合理處在於，若是偷情的話，含是不會跑去通知他兩位兄弟；但不合理之處就是為什麼只詛咒迦南，而不是連迦南的弟兄也都詛咒了。有一說就是迦南也跟著含，他沒當場指正父親含，而是跟著父親一起跑去找閃和雅弗，所以才只詛咒他一人和他的後裔。
然而，神是知道迦南的後裔是無辜的，只是詛咒不能向前咒，只能向後咒，才會遭殃，所以祂藉耶穌的寶血洗淨了，化詛咒為祝福。
非常正确……他是要告诉两个哥哥说看看爸爸没有穿衣服，他只想让两个哥哥去看爸爸都丑态，根本没有想去帮他盖被子……咒诅后裔也是正确的
謝謝您，大衛牧師！
太精彩了👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Dk 喜欢你的讲解圣经，谢谢！赞👍
这几天一直在等大卫的视频
我也是
谢谢大卫弟兄的讲道❤
感謝主🥰🥰🥰
會不會拿瑪真的是該隱的後裔，其實表示在救贖中人的罪性仍然可以鑽進去方舟裡面，才導致了後來亂倫的發生，所以而後上帝才安排了耶穌的救贖，讓世人知曉真正的救贖不是因著種族（挪亞的家人或是以色列族）也不是行為（進入方舟或是努力遵守所有律法），而是真心的悔改才能杜絕罪的權勢。
谢谢你的分享，不一样的看见很棒的解析！
您要不说~我一直以为挪亚的儿子是怕他冻感冒了~给他盖上了呢~^_^
需要更正一下的是：雅弗可以进入闪的帐幕 应该是指雅弗可以从闪那里分享并一起得到来自神的救恩和祝福。
你的解释合理，认同
讚同！
another possibility: Canan went to Nova's tent, and found he was drunk, so he made fun of him by making him naked. His father Han later discovered this, and felt funny too, and told his brothers. That is why Canan was cursed specifically.
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阿們最後的結語：新約是一切咒詛的解套；"當信主耶穌你和你一家就必得救！"-阿們。
Moreover, if according to the theory of incest, it is irrational for Ham to tell his two brothers about his incest wt his mother. Could it be possible for someone who have done incest to tell his own ugly matter to his two brothers? So, the theory of incest is not proper.
大衛是看過NFS研究室的文章了嗎?喜歡你最後的重點!
+1 前半段跟NFS一樣，但後半段結論不同。另外，非常的感謝大衛的高產🙏
什么是nfs研究室？
第一次聽懂諾亞赤身的解説，好厲害的邏輯推理。
講得好！👍Amen
更新啦 谢谢讲解 圣经看不懂的地方 都会看大卫的讲解～～
耶穌就是道路與真理 約翰福音14:6
生命
ありがとー😉👍🎶
转场特效用多了可能会适得其反
受教導是迦南在給挪亞的酒內加料， 但忘記是那卷先知書，因有相關記載。
解的好，对不对不重要，因为无法正明，但能让别人认真去思考。
還是老話一句，耶穌強調我們要愛神愛人如己，直等到祂再來的日子❤
很多推断都很合理，感谢大卫弟兄的分享，但我有以下的疑问：
1、不敬虔的后裔肯定不能得救吗？那摩押女子路德，妓女喇合又如何解释？
2、以诺的女儿不一定指的是塞特一脉，没记错的话，该隐的儿子就叫以诺。
其实这些都不重要，细枝末节的东西，只是交流一下，希望别介意。
小编，我们都是小小的受造之物，我们应该得有寻求真理的心❤，请问圣经的启示录都好多预言了，你怎么不说呀，我们得多听听，寻求呀！不能按着自己的观念去做事，梦该醒了吧，现在也不看看现在是什么时候了。
The best keep to the last haha. It is an intrigue, a mystery. But the last point is the main point 😄
Thanks david
我好奇为什么同一个爸爸妈妈会生3个不同肤色的孩子呢？
DNA 在那時已經產生變化，因為大洪水前與後，人類壽命也都起了劇變。
大卫弟兄，我想提个问题，为何你的背景不能是更简单、更干净的背景呢？为何那么多元素？还有一个按摩椅。。。
我家任何一個角落對你來說都會是很多元素。
@@dkfinalgeneration 哦，好吧。辛苦了
「耶和華對 摩西 說： 「你曉諭 以色列 人說：我是耶和華－你們的神。
你們從前住的 埃及 地，那裏人的行為，你們不可效法，我要領你們到的 迦南 地，那裏人的行為也不可效法，也不可照他們的惡俗行。
你們要遵我的典章，守我的律例，按此而行。我是耶和華－你們的神。
所以，你們要守我的律例典章；人若遵行，就必因此活着。我是耶和華。
「你們都不可露骨肉之親的下體，親近他們。
我是耶和華。 不可露你母親的下體，羞辱了你父親。
她是你的母親，不可露她的下體。
不可露你繼母的下體；這本是你父親的下體。
你的姊妹，不拘是異母同父的，是異父同母的，無論是生在家生在外的，都不可露她們的下體。
不可露你孫女或是外孫女的下體，露了她們的下體就是露了自己的下體。
你繼母從你父親生的女兒本是你的妹妹，不可露她的下體。
不可露你姑母的下體；她是你父親的骨肉之親。
不可露你姨母的下體；她是你母親的骨肉之親。
不可親近你伯叔之妻，羞辱了你伯叔；她是你的伯叔母。
不可露你兒婦的下體；她是你兒子的妻，不可露她的下體。
不可露你弟兄妻子的下體；這本是你弟兄的下體。
不可露了婦人的下體，又露她女兒的下體，也不可娶她孫女或是外孫女，露她們的下體；她們是骨肉之親，這本是大惡。
你妻還在的時候，不可另娶她的姊妹作對頭，露她的下體。
「女人行經不潔淨的時候，不可露她的下體，與她親近。
不可與鄰舍的妻行淫，玷污自己。 不可使你的兒女經火歸與 摩洛 ，也不可褻瀆你神的名。我是耶和華。
不可與男人苟合，像與女人一樣；這本是可憎惡的。 不可與獸淫合，玷污自己。
女人也不可站在獸前，與牠淫合；這本是逆性的事。
「在這一切的事上，你們都不可玷污自己；因為我在你們面前所逐出的列邦，在這一切的事上玷污了自己； 連地也玷污了，所以我追討那地的罪孽，那地也吐出它的居民。
故此，你們要守我的律例典章。
這一切可憎惡的事，無論是本地人，是寄居在你們中間的外人，都不可行，（ 在你們以先居住那地的人行了這一切可憎惡的事，地就玷污了，）
免得你們玷污那地的時候，地就把你們吐出，像吐出在你們以先的國民一樣。
無論甚麼人，行了其中可憎的一件事，必從民中剪除。
所以，你們要守我所吩咐的，免得你們隨從那些可憎的惡俗，就是在你們以先 的人 所常行的，以致玷污了自己。我是耶和華－你們的神。」」
利未記 18:1-30 CUNP-神
這是我有史以來第一次聽到這樣亂倫的解法。也佩服連挪亞的妻子可能是該隱的後人也查到出來。 感謝主，凡在方舟裡(在基督裡)的都必得救。
大选结果有点失望，别的都好说红母牛不能等。
猜测民主党会和ccp搞在一起最后变成一个敌基督统治世界的局势，这样最有利于推广兽印不是吗？
Hallelujah
兄弟，你的声音频率很高，可以给个联系方式吗？
DK，请问有没有视频讲说挪亚的这些后裔都代表着现在世界的哪个区域或民族呀？
最簡化簡單的說就是 白色系:雅弗 黃土色系:閃 咖啡黑色系:含
全世界都是他们的后裔啊
哈哈，诺亚传福音的成功率为：零……
难道他家人的福音不是诺亚传的？
阿們🙏
全垒打😂
想问DK《邪恶力量》美剧里面上帝的妹妹在圣经上是否有记载？
Of course not！
神沒有妹妹，沒有媽媽，沒有哥哥，沒有弟弟。 神是自有永有，昔在今在以後永在的獨一真神。
我已不停傳、真的或只有兩三人信、
要让他们扎根……是很难的，因为天国的门是很窄的。自己尽力而为
可否解釋聖經出埃及記第4章24節，耶和華要殺摩西？25節，摩西的妻子為什麼知道要割下兒子的包皮？謝謝．
行割禮是以色列人與神所立的約。 摩西頒布律法當然知道，現在身為領袖的他，卻沒有以身作則，好在摩西的老婆馬上補救。 摩西當然也曾告訴過他老婆，身為男人的幫助者，在千鈞一髮之際，救了他。
给力了
To see or uncover someone's nakedness, according to Biblical point of view, it surely refers to having intimate relationship with someone. But the same phrase to see someone's nakedness sometimes refers to simply see someone's nakedness..even to uncover someone's nakedness doesnt absolutely refers only to having intimacy with someone, instead, it sometimes simply uncover or reveal someone nakedness. Below are the proof.
Ezekiel 16:36 Thus says the Lord Jehovah, Because your lust was poured out and your nakedness was uncovered through your fornications with your lovers and with all your abominable idols and because of the blood of your children, whom you gave to them,
16:37 Therefore I am about to gather all your lovers whom you have pleased, indeed, all those whom you loved, with all those whom you hated; thus I will gather them against you from all around, and I will uncover your nakedness to them so that they may see all your nakedness.
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
打错了抱歉，是指含的后裔迦南的后裔西尼人，实在抱歉，打错了。
聖經敘述秦國是一大族的人將來要來投靠神，敬拜神的。 是一大族，因為其他族類都是用方位來表示，唯獨秦國卻是將他們單單挑出來說。 至於秦國是希尼人的後裔，是否此希尼就是迦南的後裔? 聖經常有同名的情況發生。 基因譜現今已經很難完全區分，以色列消失的十支派也有移民到中國的，通婚的也有，論膚色，中國人比較接近猶太人的膚色，含的後裔一般說是比較黑色系的。 所以大部份的說法中國人是屬於閃的後裔，不是含的後裔，含的後裔受咒詛的也只有迦南的後裔，含的其他兒子並沒有受咒詛。 至於中國人是含的後裔，迦南的後裔，還是閃的後裔??? 我認為已經不重要了，中國從歷史來觀察 ，從來也不是誰的奴僕的奴僕，反而是歷史五千年的大國，現今世界的No.2. 作奴僕的奴僕應該很難變作世界第二吧! 所以從結果論來看，中國人應該不像是受到咒詛的後裔。 總而言之，即便是受到咒詛的，信了主耶穌基督，都變成了亞伯拉罕的後裔，成為神國的子民。
加拉太書
3:29 你們既屬乎基督、就是亞伯拉罕的後裔、是照着應許承受產業的了。
@@dkfinalgeneration 谢谢解惑
挪亞咒詛太重，令人費解。如今，大衛牧師這麼一點撥，倒是豁然開朗。我不能確定含是否真的與父親妻子通姦，但應該與性方面犯罪有關。流便上了父親的妾，所受的咒詛都沒有迦南來得嚴重，可見含的罪大過與父親的妾通姦。那是什麼罪呢？莫過於亂倫了。
迦南褻玩祖父挪亞的生殖器並把酒醉不省人事的挪亞給雞姦了！因為迦南大逆不道，所以挪亞酒醒之後才會勃然大怒，狠狠地咒詛自己的孫子迦南。
現今南非祖魯族黑人據中國基督徒的考證，與聖經上所記載的迦南七族有極其緊密的血緣關係，生性邪穢異常、熱衷性犯罪，跟台灣人死也要拜偶像一樣邪穢，是上帝以戰火清洗的目標。南非祖魯族黑人與拜偶像的台灣人都是上帝首先要滅絕的族類，然後南非與台灣才能承接聖職成為末世避難所與東島方舟。
流便支派彻底消亡 迦南后裔却还有存留
雅煞珥书第五章14 节耶和华对挪亚说：“你娶过一个妻子来，生儿养女，因我看见你在这个世代在我面前为义。”
15 你要在地上养育你的儿女；挪亚便去娶了一个妻子，他挑选了以诺的女儿拿玛，拿玛580岁。
16 挪亚498岁时娶了拿玛作他的妻子。
这段我觉得，有点过度解读。圣经基本上阐述人类犯罪时都很直白。比如罗得醉酒后发生的事。创世纪如果是摩西所整理，那前后文风格应该比较一致。我还是支持你的DK。加油！
纯粹个人的观察: 圣经一开始在创世纪第六章介绍挪亚这号人物时，称他为义人。从那之后一直到他们一家人出方舟之间，很多重复提到凡神所吩咐的，挪亚都照样行。可见神是多么喜悦挪亚，并拣选了他，以至他们一家八口得救。我个人观察到，自从他们出了方舟后筑了一座坛献祭后，圣经再也没有提起任何挪亚做了什么是合神喜悦，又或者他遵从神所吩咐的。所以个人觉得挪亚之后是否仍然是义人或合神喜悦就不得而知了。所以也有可能挪亚性格有所改变，我相信他栽了葡萄园，也应该不是第一次醉酒，到底是醉到什么程度以至赤身。我也相信醉酒并不是神所喜悦的事，神即然吩咐我们不可醉酒，相信祂的话语是永不改变的。所以有可能挪亚在愤怒中或者在不合神心意的情况下，咒詛了含的后代，当时迦南很有可能是含的最小儿子。要知道依据华人文化，咒詛别人后代或者绝子绝孙是很严重的话，我不敢相信这些话出自于一个神所喜悦的义人会说的话。起初查了其他资料，我也想用影片里的说法说服自己。但是想到若圣经写的目的，不就是要让大家世世代代读得容易理解。再看看摩西写的文字，多么丑陋和淫乱的事情，他都写得很清楚明白的。如果挪亚咒詛迦南有隐藏的真相，摩西的风格应该会写得蛮清楚直白的。以上纯粹个人观察，无意得罪任何人 🙏🏻🙏🏻
又或者，摩西的寫法是摩西時代的人都會聽得懂的隱晦寫法。
我几乎要批评大卫了：你研究这些乱七八糟的干什么？！可是到最后我笑了，大卫还是我喜欢的那个大卫。
亂七八糟？聖經寫的是真的啊，同運就是用聖經來批評基督徒啊。
但迦南都是無辜的
外行人
外行人
简单的因为看见父亲的下体，不仅不帮忙遮羞，还去给兄弟说，态度应该也是嬉笑，取笑的，这就足以让诺亚咒诅他和他的儿子了……也许迦南是他最爱的儿子，所以咒诅了迦南... 简单道理，非要牵强的说出妈和儿子苟且的猜想……他妈是木偶吗？不会动吗？荒唐...
This is what I thought
就因为以色列人曾经大规模的屠杀过迦南人，后来为了给自己的屠杀寻找历史合法性，写历史的时候就拼命的抹黑迦南，仅此而已。同理还有关于索多玛和蛾摩拉的起源的记载
笨拙
大卫讲讲美国大选吧 我认为川普真的是神选之子！
他可是敵基督的其中一個候選人
雅煞珥書5:15 Noah went and took a wife, and he chose Naamah the daughter of Enoch.
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呃...是要強調得罪了多少宗派嗎？看了五篇卻聽到兩次強調得罪了其他宗派(太會挑了我@@...希望我是想太多了）
可能是他的作風吧…給我個人感覺滿強調自我跟帶了點挑釁..。雖然我也好不到哪裡去啦，所在以我需要主耶穌來愛，被主耶穌愛的人，總是滿滿的愛散發給別人，說話也柔軟了呢❤️❤️ 要是滿滿的愛的主耶穌，不知道會如何講這議題呢？我想當然是說真話並且是滿滿的愛的那種的😆
我還是喜歡不強調自己，客觀而且是無論做哪機種推測，最終總會導到高舉主耶穌的真理視頻，時刻有主耶穌一同探討總是好的。高談闊論不說了～祝福你
因為我被太多人攻擊了，我說了教會絕不會說的。
雖然是假說。 不過邏輯正確。 會咒詛迦南。因為他就是含與挪亞妻子的孽種.......唉
含大嘴巴啊，說給他們家人，說老爸赤裸在睡覺，真好笑。
你看圣经七十士译本最准确
硬凹有理！大洪水過後，全人類死光光，一家8口自體繁殖過盛！厲害了，我的上帝！奇怪了，第四代是怎麼來的？媽啊！含是迦南的父親！迦南的母親搞不好是，，，，，，含的母親！迦南的妻子呢？哦！原來，，，，，，，，，，，，，如此！
Genesis 9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it upon both their shoulders, and they walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father. And their faces were turned backward, so that they did not see their father’s nakedness.
From this verse, we clearly see that Shem and Japheth's faces were turned backward, so that they did not see their father's nakedness. According to your video, bro David, to see someone's (female) nakedness is to see his father's nakedness. In other words, it means to have incest with his own mother. But, Shem and Japheth turned theird faces backward, the verse clearly mentioned "so that they did not see their father's nakedness". Can we interprete not to see their father's nakedness as not to sleep with their mother, which is according to your video? It is clear to us, they did not see their father's nakedness simply means they did not see their father's nakedness. How can we relate turn their face backward and even walked backward to cover their father's nakedness to having incest woth their mother? Do you mean that they turned their faces backward so that they wouldn't be able to sleep with their mother? This is not logical. This one simple verse proves stronngly that the theory of incest is improper.
Then why Canaan was the one cursed, not Ham? And why Moses in his writting mentioned earlier two times Ham, the father of Canaan? This is because Moses wrote this under inspiration from God. And according to God's governmental dealing with human history, eventually the descendants of Shem, Abraham and his descendants will enter the land of Canaan by defeating the Canaanites, Amorites etc which were the descendants of Canaan. That is why Noah in his prophetic blessing to his sons, he mentioned Canaan only was cursed. This was prophesy from God through Noah. And in Genesis 9:26, he mentioned the God of Shem. But in his blessing towards Japheth, he didnt mentioned the God of Japheth, instead, he mentioned may God enlarge Japheth in Genesis 9.27. this proves that the mentioning of the God of Shem was under inspiration from God to prophesy concerning the descendants of Shem, Abraham and God will be the God of Shem and particularly also the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacod. This is why Cannan was the one cursed by Noah, not his father Ham. This is because God didnt want to curse Ham's first three sons. Only the forth son, Canaan was cursed according to God's foreseeing and predestination and selection. God didnt want to curse all Ham's descendants.
I know this event predates this verse, but I think GOD's law steadfast.
Ezekiel
18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
@@dkfinalgeneration Amen to this verse. I am totally agree. Each and everyone is responsible for his own sins. Thanks bro David. I am glad tht we can have healthy fellowship (在基督里交通) in Christ..Nice to know you.
If we read further in Ezekiel 18, we can see tht God is willing to forgive the wicked ones if they repent. The principle in Ezekiel 18 mainly is tht God, on one hand, is righteous; He couldnt tolerate sins and wickedness; but on the other hand, He is also love, loving to forgive them if they repent.
Yet, we must study the Bible in a thorough way in this matter. According to 2 Samuel 12:13-14, the record concerning the sins commited by king David resulted in God's governmental dealing with him, yet the judgement was upon his newborn son. His son became very sick and eventually died. The verses clearly reveal tht king David will surely not die, but his newborn son of Bath-sheba surely died because king David's sins gave the enemies of Jehovah much ocassion to blaspheme Him. So, how come David sinned againts God, but his son was the one died because of his sinful deeds? It is hard for us to apply Ezekiel 18 here. The same is seen in Genesis 9. Ham was the one exposing the failure and nakedness of his father Noah, but his son Cannan was the one cursed.
Furthermore, if we really apply Ezekiel 18 on both Genesis 9 and 2 Samuel 12, the iniquity of father cant be shared by son and the iniquity of son also cant be shared by father, how come Ham's iniquity and king David's iniquity had been shared by their son? According to the theory of incest, if we said this was because Ham having incest with his mother and produced Canaan, which was the product of their incest deed and this caused Canaan to be cursed. But, why Bath-sheba's son died merely because of king David's personal sin? Is it because the newborn son was the product of king David's fornication? The verse clearly reveals the real reason..it was because king David's iniquities gave much ocassion for God's enemies to blaspheme God. This is the principle of God's govermental and dispensational dealing and punishment. So, sins can be sins tht touch God's governmental dealing and sins tht does not. If really Ezekiel 18 is applied strictly on Genesis 9 and 2 Samuel 12, we also can say it was Ham's iniquity and king David's iniquity and according to Ezekiel, no matter it was due to fornication or incest, both sons should neither be cursed nor punished.
However, God's principle has never changed. God is unchanged, and His law and principle also are unchanged. Frm study, we could say tht God is righteous and on the other hand He is also love, always ready to forgive. In Genesis 9, God cursed Canaan through Noah because Ham violated God's governmental principle. Ham should not expose his father's failure. Noah was the represantative of God on the earth at that time. He became loose and enjoyed too much worldly amusement, ie wine in his case till he became drunken and naked in his tent. Noah as the leader should not have such failure. But Ham exposed his father's nakedness to his two brothers, and this violated the principle of the headship, just like in the case of Miriam and Korah in Numbers. In 2 Samuel 12, even though God forgave king David after he repented, but God still need to displine David by judging his newborn son. God in His sovereignty, He foresaw and foreknew Canaan's descendants after many hundreds years later, and that is why He prophesied through Noah concerning Canaan to be cursed, not because of merely Ham's iniquity, but also God's predestination and selection. Just like in the case of Jacob and Esau, God has chosen Jacod and hated Esau. In Genesis, Canaan was not chosen by God. This is God's governmental dealing with Ham. Ham was forgiven, but just like in the case of king David, God dealt wt Canaan governmentally. Just like one man sinned, all mankind was cursed. This is God's govenmental dealing wt Adam's descendants. God forgave Adam, but God still discpline his descendants.
If a person violates secular law, he will be punished. But he repented to God, and God surely will forgive him, but he still need to be discplined by God through secular law. He couldnt escape the law. Similarily, God forgive, but He will still sometimes discipline and chastise us for our own good. Just like in Ezekiel 18, each is responsible for own sin, and if we repent, God will forgive and not punish. But in the cases tht violate the headship of God and the governmental administration of God, God will forgive, but will still punish and even deal govermentally. King David's sins was forgiven, but God punished him governmentally and this was upon his newborn son, not because of he was the product of fornication, but it was due to God's governmental dealing with king David according to the verse. Similar principle applied to Ham and Canaan. But in the case of Canaan, another factor was God's predestination and selection. The entire Genesis and even the books of Moses mainy tell us the selection of God's people as the descendants of Abraham entering the land of Canaan. That is the main reason Moses emphasized two times, Ham, the father of Canaan and the record of Ham's violating the headship established by God at tht time brings us to the focus of Canaan being cursed and eventually Noah's prophesy mentioned Shem was the only one blessed in the way God was the God of Shem (Japheth was blessed, but God was not the God of Japheth). Why all these are emphasized? It is to bring us gradually to the matter of Shem's descendant, Abraham was chosen and the matter of the descendants of Abraham entering into the land of Canaan, the land of the descendants of cursed Canaan.
@@dkfinalgeneration Sorry bro David..i hv too much explanation to say..
Furthermore, if we apply Ezekiel 18 on Genesis 9, it doesnt make sense too. Why? Father's iniquity cant be shared by son. If really this, how come Canaan shared his father's iniquty? Ham should be the one cursed by God, not Canaan. Even we guess Canaan was the product of incest between Ham and his mother, but sin was still sin of Ham, not Canaan. According to Ezekiel 18, Ham's sin cant be shared by Canaan. But the reality was Canaan was the one really cursed. We cant conclude thst just because Canaan was the product of incest and thats why Canaan sinned against God and be cursed. Canaan was innocemt. Ham should be the one cursed by God, not Canaan, if we really apply Ezekiel 18 strictly. So, if God's word in Ezekiel 18 is unchanging, and the record in Genesis 9 (even in 2 Samuel 12) are also true and not contrary to God's word in Ezekiel, the theory of incest cant stand firm. No matter what sin by Ham, Canaan was innocent and he should not be cursed, if it is according to the theory of incest and based on Ezekiel 18's principle. So, with or without the theory of incest, Canaan was still cursed by God. The only explanation is that it is God's prophesy over Canaan, through Noah's prophecy, according to God's predestination, selection, foreknowledge, and God's governmental dealing with Ham, forgiveness and yet issues in God's discipline. That was why Ham's other three sons were not cursed. One of them was Mizraim, who was ancestor of Eygtian., And according to God's sovereignty, Eygpt helped Joseph at the end of Genesis. Mizraim was not cursed. Only Canaan was cursed..this is according to God's selection (神的拣选). The matter of cursing by forefather is also recorded in Genesis 49. In Genesis 49:7, Jacob cursed Simeon and Levi, prophesied their division among the children of Israel. Because of their cruelty Simeon and Levi received no blessing from Jacob. Rather, Jacob exercised judgment over them to scatter them among the children of Israel so that they would not be able to behave cruelly according to their disposition. Later in Exodus, Levi, because of his absoluteness, desperation, and faithfulness toward God, Levi received the blessing of the priesthood. And eventually in Numbers 35:8, forty eight cities were given to Levites. This kind of scattering, in reality turning Jacod's curse in Genesis 49:7 to blessing. So, the matter of Canaan being cursed should apply the same principle of the matter of Simeon and Levi being cursed by Jacob. So, it was prophetic. It has nothing to do with sin of Canaan. Canaan was cursed, most accurately speaking, because the land of Canaan will be cursed.
@@timothytiong4341 good theology, may I ask which church system or denomination are you from?
Bro, may i know also in which denomination you meet? Let me guess, may b you meet at 长老教会。因为通常卫理教会没有教导这样深的神学。你是改革宗吗？
拜登就是敌基督的。
哈哈 被洗腦的很成功嘛
這樣的經文故事講解，太像法輪大法，聽者絕不能有獨立思想。
今天早晨读经，正好也是我疑虑的地方，打开电脑，正好是你的这个解说，好巧合，虽然都是猜测
就算你不信上帝，也会有这样的巧合。在心理学上这个叫共识性。
還好 您一開始就說是「假說」 不然真的會認為「為賦新詞強說愁」。讀經最重要的是「聖經沒有說的 不要自己添加」解經最重要的是「按著正意分解 不要斷章取義」。願主賜福您。
有一些可以推論出來的
像大衛十之八九應該是腎功能衰竭😂😂😂，完全可以想像他平時絕對玩的相當兒少不宜😂😂😂
我也曾经想過咒詛迦南的事，當然是想不通啦。现在你這樣説，都有這个可能。
其實有不ㄧ樣觀察點我覺得很好，只是總會有宗派覺得被得罪，而且探索問題才能發現更奧秘的事物。
根據《雅煞珥書》5：15和3：13，挪亞的妻子是與神同行的以諾的女兒拿瑪，而非拉麥和洗拉的女兒拿瑪(雅煞珥書2：16-17、23-25)，同名不同人。
但是，該隱的兒子也叫以諾（創4: 17）
以諾的女兒可以解為女後裔吧
@@SionSheva5756 同名同姓的人很多，但以诺一定是合神心意的那个第七世子孙的后代，第八世拿玛和第十世诺亚因为年龄相仿。第四世和第十世诺亚年龄相差悬殊
DK, 謝謝你的分享!!
那么这个理应为奴的迦南的后裔在现实生活中究竟是什么人呢？你也明白，我也明白，大家都心里有数，只是不能说，不让说。
中国人？？
黑人，因为政治正确。所以涉及种族歧视。因为“含”的意思就是“黑”的意思。
但无论怎样，基督的福音也包括拯救黑人啊，因为所有人都犯了罪，并不一定强调黑人有问题，所有人都有问题。
@@Whiskywood 你看今天的世界，中国人才是为奴最多的族群
中國人綜觀歷史可以說是從帝王主義演變共產主義到現階段發展成社會主義趨勢。 當然有領導人想變回帝王主義的態勢，尚未成功，免強算是一種極慢速的對外開放，不過不是任何其他國家的奴僕，反而漸漸成為世界第二大國，威脅著第一強國，美國。 聖經說中國人是秦國人，是有一大群將來要敬拜神的。 有人刻意將中國人閃的後裔，導向說成是含的後裔，然後說服你不要信神，這些很明顯是出於那惡者的計謀，因為從歷史來看中國就從來都不能說是奴僕的奴僕，另外含的後裔也只有迦南被咒詛，不是所有含其他的後裔，含就不只一個兒子。 不能說所有含的後裔都被咒詛，即便有被咒詛的，主耶穌也成為所有人的贖價，成為那被咒詛的，就斷開一切咒詛，成為祝福，從此不管是閃，含，雅弗的後裔，都因著信耶穌基督，成為了亞伯拉罕的後裔，進到應許裡。
個人覺得無需刻意去做如此推論，一方面太過駭人，一方面也無助於對聖經真理的了解，如此的解經，就顯其多餘了，聖經中有些暫時不明白的地方，實無強加解釋的必要，否則不但無法使人獲益，反有誤導之嫌，宜慎之！
同意是拉麦的孩子 - 洗拉（这个跟亚大双胞胎的女人是塞特一支的，好像是雅列的女儿）老年得的孩子， 土巴 该隐的妹妹。BOOK OF 雅煞耳书里， 以诺的女儿， 比诺亚大很多，（是他的奶奶吧， 以诺生玛土撒拉，玛土撒拉生拉麦，拉麦生诺亚）。有人说拿玛 of 以诺是诺亚的妻子，生了三个孩子， 但是她不是方舟里的拿玛，方舟里的拿玛是该隐支派的拿玛。
不要曲解圣经好吗？必须扭曲经文才能吸收其中的意义吗？
有趣的探讨，推测，解说和结语!
谢谢大卫! ;)
Thanks, God bless you!
诺亚的诅咒也许是因为从小事看人性，父母是孩子最大的榜样，以此看出含的后代会因这样的带领而得出的后果……为要提醒做父母的人要谨慎，要将自己和孩子都带到主的面前，降服谦卑受教行为
Amen! May God Bless You.
大衛，我猜想你的推測是很有可能的。含可能是對母親作了苟且之事，而加南就是果，當被咒詛。不過，也沒有其他經文加於證明。最後還是跟您一樣，沒有結論，只有“你說呢？”
解釋得很好，我喜歡💕
含是挪亚的二儿子，迦南是含的小儿子。9：24的里的小儿子是指迦南。这样理解可能就容易理解为什么迦南受咒诅了
大衛 我想問一下，
民主黨，傳媒，社交媒體，華爾街，布什家族
是否都是 光明 共濟會 ?
第4獸，十角
是否說明是 十个領域呢？
拜灯应该是光明会的。
是
感谢赞美主！阿们！
真的不可思議~😱
您好
有些可以思考的地方
首先是先有挪亞的故事才有利未記的戒律
再來我個人認為
其實甚麼事也沒發生
只是不禮貌
不該露出來的地方露出來本就很危險
況且當時人的心智發展都很原始
應該也沒有倫常觀念
也容易發生血氣衝動的事吧
最後
最妙的是
為何挪亞這麼生氣
就像我們一般人天生對性的相關種種的制約是很嚴謹的
(西方人的濫交是性解放運動後才開始的
如今又回歸了)
感谢大卫的分享，呼应结尾的经文
【加3:13】基督既为我们受了咒诅（“受”原文作“成”），就赎出我们脱离律法的咒诅，因为经上记着：“凡挂在木头上都是被咒诅的。”
人既然無法因為行為稱義,為何聖經又要強調信心跟行為的關係.保羅又說人要努力棄絕私慾,但羅馬書又說行出來是由不得我.怎麼這麼矛盾?
@@shine9001 请参看 雅各书
@@shine9001 這裡講到兩種狀態，一種是還未信主狀態下的老我生命，行出來由不得我，另一種是信主後的生命，活出好行為。 因為保羅傳講的是:因信稱義的根基。 雅各傳講的是: 因信稱義的結果。 兩者並行，並無矛盾。 意思就是強調信主後，靠著那加給我們力量的聖靈，必能結果，也就是聖靈的果子，也就是好行為。 然而這些行為不能使我們得救，這些果子不能使我們得救，這些果子，這些行為，使基督徒看見自己有聖靈的工作運行在我們裡面，自己實在是被聖靈所引導的，就是得救的確據，有聖靈的印記。
79:1 （亚萨的诗）神阿，外邦人进入你的产业，污秽你的圣殿，使耶路撒冷变成荒堆。
O GOD, the heathen are come into thine inheritance; thy holy temple have they defiled; they have laid Jerusalem on heaps.
79:2 把你仆人的尸首，交与天空的飞鸟为食，把你圣民的肉，交与地上的野兽。
The dead bodies of thy servants have they given to be meat unto the fowls of the heaven, the flesh of thy saints unto the beasts of the earth.
79:3 在耶路撒冷周围流他们的血如水，无人葬埋。
Their blood have they shed like water round about Jerusalem; and there was none to bury them.
79:4 我们成为邻国的羞辱，成为我们四围人的嗤笑讥刺。
We are become a reproach to our neighbours, a scorn and derision to them that are round about us.
79:5 耶和华阿，这到几时呢。你要动怒到永远吗。你的愤怒要如火焚烧吗。
How long, LORD? wilt thou be angry for ever? shall thy jealousy burn like fire?
79:6 愿你将你的愤怒倒在那不认识你的外邦，和那不求告你名的国度。
Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name.
79:7 因为他们吞了雅各，把他的住处变为荒场。
For they have devoured Jacob, and laid waste his dwelling place.
79:8 求你不要记念我们先祖的罪孽，向我们追讨。愿你的慈悲快迎着我们。因为我们落到极卑微的地步。
謝謝大衛
迦南地有巨人是不是迦南的后裔？
不是
讀到這段經文時,一直以為是迦南對挪亞做了甚麼不可描述的事.....