Just imagining walking through the primordial jungle at night, and in the distance you see the light of a fire and hear a caveman laying down a sick-ass stone-core drum & bass beat.
The entire point of life: Jesus did not come to be served, but to serve. Mathew 20: 28. We are no different. This entire life is a representation of the spiritual warfare going on. Good vs evil. God isn't a flying man in the sky, but the actual representation of Love, Hope, Joy, Peace, Light, etc. Not metaphor, but literally, like an extra demintional wavelength of thought, emotions, and intent. The devil is the opposite wavelength, pain, fear, hate, anger, darkness, etc. Human life is serving one of these two. Not a man in the sky, actual sentient collective universal Love. However, humans are primatives, we make mistakes. It's in our nature, since the fall, to go down the wrong path. This means at some time each one of us has served darkness to some degree. God understands our limited understanding of our own actions, so he gave us forgiveness, though sacrificing himself in human form as Jesus Christ. It is our duty to accept that sacrifice, get the forgiveness, and be better, helping others be better, and spreading this wavelength of Love, Hope, Joy, Peace, Light, etc, thoughout the universe. But God had to make a way for us to get to this place spiritually, this is why evidence is not allowed. Evidence will make you believe, using the fear of absolute punishment to change your behavior, but that won't make you better, just scared. Faith makes you better. It is what redeemes us, not our works. Faith is the hope that things get better, that justice always prevails, that we're at least loved by our creator. But it has to be Faith in Jesus, because of his sacrifice. And there can't be evidence to point us to him, because Love had to be fair. If there were a code in our DNA, what about everyone born before genetic sequencing? If there were a book with the solar system thosands of years ago, what would stop an evil person from hiding/destroying it? If it were something you had to go to, what about the geographically isolated, imprisoned, or enslaved. If it were a train of logic, what about the uneducated, or mentally slow? Not to mention all the people born before schools. Love cannot give to one without giving to the other. So the key to salvation had to be something everyone has access to. The only thing is Faith. This is why God puts it upon your heart to learn about these things, even if it's only to criticize, or hate. God is everywhere, because Love is everywhere, and so is the devil, because hate is everywhere. They're in your head all the time, regardless of weather or not you accept that. They whisper inside your heart, giving you ideas. But more than that, they're inside everyone's heart. This is how they get things done. They corrordanate us like pieces on a chess board. The only difference is, we get to chose who's side we're playing for. At the end of our life, we go to that team's home base, Heaven, or Hell. A place where all that exists is those wavelengths. Hate, pain, anger, fear, darkness; or Love, Hope, Joy, Peace, Pleasure, Light. The choice is yours to make. But you cannot go to Heaven with hate in your heart. You must forgive, repent, and spread joy for those around you. These are sentient eternal controlling forces in our universe. Heaven and Hell are very real places, I've seen them. Those steps prime your soul for a meeting with God. Very literally. Once you've done all four, in that order, you get divine revelation, with all the evidence you'll ever need. They are, forgive your parents, brake down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read the Bible. Step four takes three books to get the revelation. I recommend Genesis, Mathew, and then either Luke, Psalms, or proverbs. The order of the steps is important, step 1 has to come before step 3. I can state that for an absolute certainty that these steps always work. Please, take your salvation seriously. See for yourself. Do those steps. Jesus Christ is Lord. It's all True.,
As a stone carver I know the ring of good marble, but outside a museum in Bangkok I came across an ancient stone gong and just rapping it with my knuckles produced a bell tone. I was amazed.
Interestingly, there are rare examples of stone ideophones (rock gongs) that have made their way into more recent music history.... Just not in the Western world. There are stone marimbas in Africa - though wood is far more common. There's also an ancient Chinese instrument which is tuned to the pentatonic scale - all rocks hung on a rack - the Bianzhong. It is played in certain traditional Chinese music, usually alongside a Chinese carillon.
Gotta love how they speculate over how these people played the music, one handed, two handed, squatting, seated, Meanwhile I'm just thinking, they hit it, it made sound, create a beat and play until you get bored.
They're trying to figure out what the culture was around it, though. There's a certain way you play a guitar, for example, and it's very recognizable and part of our cultural image of a guitar. It would be neat to know if our distant ancestors had a cultural image of a rock gong player. They're studying how our ancestors thought of the rock gong, not just how they used it.
I suppose even if they were mounted more authentically they'd still sound a bit different in that room than they would in a cave or wherever . . . but those metal stands though? I guess --I've-- _we've all_ got more important things to worry about *_`: \_*
The video really doesn't do the noise justice. I had an opportunity to play some of these on my uncle's farm in South Africa, they were surprisingly resonant and sounded closer to a wooden xylophone.
Long ago, jamming together must surely have been compulsive and addictive. People craved the bond that arises from collaborative effort. That was the success of people in all endeavors, collaboration and improvisation. Jamming is as Human as it gets.
Yes, I love this point of view!!! Connection through shared experience and collective consciousness! Small communities of people who shared their lives with one another and knew loyalty. People who worked hard for the collective and felt that connection 😌
Yeah! ... interesting possibility. Hummm. One thing I’ve noticed, archeologists some times jump into conclusions of the use of some artifact not knowing that much about the culture they are researching. It’s as if they want to ne the ones who gave the use instead of leaving the door open to other possibilities for latter findings where they’ll find or understand a bit more about it.
@@mitsuomits9077 I think there are those types in any field of science. There was a family in Turkey whose kids all walked on all fours and some highly regarded geneticists and others jumped to the conclusion that they had some missing link gene. They really just had abnormal cerebellums.
@@Skenderbeuismyhero That's true. And about the Turkish family, I think I saw a documentary about them, are they the ones that can walk with their knees almost all straight ( if I remember well)?.
and even then the rocks would still sound. and since most crafts are rhythm based, working these stones would most likely still generate music. check "FOLI (there is no movement without rhythm)" to get an idea of that... our societies are tuned into very different kinds of rhythms than most other who ever shared this planet, yet even our machines are music
@@DanJuega **Caveman sees computer monitor playing video** What this thing? Light come out! Me see mini people! Why can't me go inside?? **caveman destroys monitor out of curiosity** It magic! Light go away!
There are very similar gongs still around in Ethiopia at some of the older churches. Usually they are suspended from a small tree or something and give off pretty clear sounds.
When he said he was in an indie rock band, from the context I thought he meant these actual rocks. Thought it was the most hipster, Portlandia-ish shit I had ever heard
@@Not_actually_a_commie DNA changes SO EASILY, and never looked promising to anyone without black UV proof cryo storage units. Glass breaks WAY TOO EASY. Neither look promising.
@@D-Vinko I don't know if synthetic DNA is subject to the same changes as the organic stuff. To my knowledge, mutations come from transcription errors, so we'd only have a problem if we tried to copy the DNA (and even then, in a controlled environment we may be able to either fix the error or start over). Glass is actually much more durable than you would think, and stone is much more fragile.
It's all about crystal, more specifically, quartz memory. I won't post a link incase it's scrubbed, but if one pastes the following into a search engine the article should come up: '...There might now be a more elegant solution after a team reports how they managed to cram 360TB worth of five-dimensional (5D) digital data onto a small quartz disk. The researchers claim the data is stable for as long as 13.8 billion years at temperatures up to 190 degrees Celsius.' 🤙🏻
"How do we know this rock was used as an actual rock gong?" Easy: we just flip it over and see the ancient Ludwig drum manufacturing company logo, duh.
The Maori mastered Nephrite, and used the stone in a hollowed out Totara tree. A large green stone cylinder was hung inside. A slit was cut on the side of the tree. A green stone club was used to hit the slit and a gong sound would resonate for miles. One used be on one tree hill in Auckland New Zealand. It was cut down over a hundred years ago. It was thought it was already dead. But in fact it was a giant gong.
@@Olly676 ‘humans’ as in homosapiens have existed for roughly 300,000/400,000 years, but evolution is much more complicated than that and the earliest known human relative is anamensis’ around 4 million years ago.
@@jacobshabir2722 Recent estimates tend to place the emergence of modern humans somewhat more recently than that (see, for example, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6736881/ ), and arguably all cellular life is a known human relative, no? Our hominid ancestors were using stone tools up to a few million years ago, though, true. Were they doing it because they enjoyed the sound it made? Who knows, maybe.
Graknorke It’s just that I’m a rock breaker, and my father before me was a rock breaker, and his father before him, and his father before him....it’s in my blood to break rocks
I’m curious how they came to the conclusion that this was used as a gong and not possibly just a surface to crack buts or grind flower or something like that
She mentioned that they found small amounts of wear all over the rock, which wouldn’t have been the case if it were used to grind stuff, plus the wear pattern of a grinder is very different from hitting it like a drum, so they would’ve been able to tell if that was it’s purpose. Also, you don’t really need a rock that big in order to crack nuts or grind flower, the job can be done with much smaller and more transportable stones.
Obviously there's speculation here, but I think the position and wear pattern of the stones (vs known wheat grinding rocks) but it seems entirely reasonable that grinding stones led to drum stones once someone noticed the change in pitch.
It's fascinating how integral music has always been to mankind. We always have found a way to make sounds and rhythms, even with just rocks. I think that's cool.
Great. Eight minutes of hearing them talk about how ancient people hit these rocks, and virtually no playing of the rock. And when he does play, people are talking over it
If you are interested though give her paper a read on the Sudan rescue-archaeological dig if you want a bit more info :-) s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/30514902/Kleinitz2004_RockArtSudan_IshashiSurvey_Sudan-Nubia8.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1526989357&Signature=ftrwW2aaTwiqLSZ1nW%2FR%2Ft1xQMs%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DRock_art_and_rock_gongs_in_the_Fourth_Ni.pdf
It really does take the right person to come along to actuate on theory-craft to bring something like this to life. Liam was definitely the right person. Had this only been explained to me, I may have doubted it, as the direct evidence seems slim for saying that is absolutely what their purpose was. But seeing and hearing Liam actually go at those reinforces the idea a lot in my mind.
It would take an archeologist with an open mind to really discover the music in the stones. How they were mounted or placed originally would have a huge effect on how much they resonated. The size of and weight of the mallet object and the reflectivity of the surrounding area. It would be interesting to let a musician have a go at it without any input on how it is thought to have been played. Allow them to find the tones in the material. Super interesting.
I'm less annoyed by the cynical people in the comment section and more sad that they seem to have lost all sense of wonder and excitement about the possibilities for good things this world has to offer.
Everything's subjective, hence why we have opinions. If it weren't that way, we'd all be the same carbon copy of each other. Which is clear to everyone. They didn't assume anything, simply disappointed everything is a rebuttle and an argument not just "hey thats pretty cool" or even if you don't like it simply "eh im not interested *click*".
I had a really shitty day today because of witnessing the incredible negativity and stupidity of people for multiple times today. Your comment cheered me up, reminded me of the other type of people out there. Thanks man.
This is not about taste it's about curiosity. That's how people have been indoctrinated by their governments, they don't think, they don't go beyond anything they just see a rock, they don't see our ancestors expressing themselves and the beginning of music. People are uneducated and when presented with something new they don't understand (or that doesnt have a touchscreen on it), instead of being CURIOUS about it they dismiss it as stupid and not worthy of their time. You only need to see how a kid would react to this and how an adult that has been through the "education" system does.
Dliess Mgg thank you for saying exactly how I felt I agree but you know what there are some people that still have Wonder in their heart I'm one of them and I'm glad to know that you are too
@@absoluteunit8628 I'm not opposed to looking at research and, as a professional musician with a degree in vocal performance, am VERY interested in the origins of music. I'm human so I'm wrong all the time and am totally ok with being proven wrong again, but this just seems really vague. Also, why the name calling? What about what you know about me makes me a whore?
Damn, seems like I found something interresting in this vulgar burial ground that is the youtube comment section. Bit more digging is needed though, because the find seems incomplete. A piece of the comments seems to have gone missing. We'll probably never know what it said exactly....
@@paulagebhardt6018 It seems like our search has come to an end. After ten, long, sleepless minutes the missing piece to our lifeswork has been found. We can now die peacefully. Spread this story, of heroes and fallen commenters amongst your friends so that it can live on...forever...
would love to hear some recordings of them in their original environment....to hear the sound play of other surfaces in the vicinty; doing it in the museum gives you a basic notion, but the acoustics of the space are inevitably going to be strikingly different..
@@charlesalexanderable look up rock gongs. There are videos of people playing these type of rocks. Those aren’t metal reverberation chambers, they’re just mounting frames. They sound like they do acoustically because they contain high iron content.
All of these know-it-alls in this comment section saying that these weren't musical instruments annoy me to no end. First, these archaeologists obviously know what the difference between wear and tear from grinding up grain, building, and other such things, so clearly they wouldn't make another completely different explanation for the hell of it. Second, and probably most importantly, rock gongs are still made and played in some parts of the world today, so they would clearly have a reference point.
It's well known, that these "experts" have come up with utterly ludicrous bullshit over the years, that have later been proved to be absolutely false. The general problem with people who start to study history or archeology as a major, is that their motivation is often politically biased to begin with, not objective desire for increasing knowledge. People who actually have actual desire for increasing knowledge as motivation, usually study an actual science instead. Anyone who disagrees with this: 1) Has never studied at a university for significant period of time 2) Is poor judge of character 3) Is part of the problem Or some combination of those 3 Blind belief in authority is willful ignorance.
Erilaz could also try analysing "the general problem" with himself and others like him. "people who actually have actual desire...usually study an actual..." What???? Erilaz you cannot even speak and yet you want to criticise ALL archaeologists that EVER existed. Please go back to the school that told you you passed and get your money back :)
Well, how neat is that! I love, love learning about human culture, and in particular deep, pre-historical human behaviors. This video was right up my alley. Thanks for the content.
I would have expect we would hear the actual sound these rocks would produce in context where they were played instead of the metallic sound of the shelves holding them.
+Pedro “Dalannar” Marques That was a bit of a shame, however I did still get a sense for the method of play, and the ways in which sound variation were achieved, so the video certainly lived up to its name. That said, I would have liked to hear the instrument, if not in its natural habitat, in a habitat that allowed its sound to come through more authentically.
Are you a fan of Jean Auel's Earth's Children series? I don't recall any rock gongs from the books, but I would love to see how a mammoth skull drum was played. :)
Kendawg McAwesome It's an old series written by an amateur archeologist. It's fascinating, she completely reconstructed Stone Age Europe. I asked the OP because "Dalannar" is the name of one of the minor characters. :)
i love the sound it makes! i could totally see myself disappointing my prehistoric parents when I tell them I want to be a rock "gonger" instead of a hunter like my dad
do you think that the leather drum was met with opposition when invented? i mean, if these were used ceremoniously once they invented the drum with a completely different tone people would've felt it was out of place and maybe there was some people who spent a significant amount of time learning to produce the right sound on the stones, and the techniques didn't exactly translate to the drums so they bashed it as dumb, inefficient or a children's toy back in the day. idk, just a random thought i had.
It seems perfectly understandable for me. Just like people today claim that music sounds better on vinyl than on CD. But eventually leather drums would come out on top, because of their easy mobility.
If your ceremony calls for rock gongs, you use rock gongs, nor reason leather drums would win out since a ceremony does not need to be efficient. Keep in mind historical people might travel ridiculous distances to visit religious places. In france people would climb tje steps of mont sant michele on their knees and in tibet people will prostrate themselves for the full circuit of the Potala Palace and sometimes even the journey to and from the Potala Palace even.
A pilgrammage is all about the journey and making an effort. A ceremony on the other hand is a purely symbolic act and can (and will) be fitted for the situation.
JackhammerJesus that is a somewhat modern atitude, historically many people would have viewed the ritual al having very real importance. I should also point out that people still use rock gongs in some places so clearly leather drums did not completely replace them.
Falling in love with a percussionist served to make for a new way of hearing music. Thank you from a light sculptor in the Show Me state, for sharing this history of music. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. You gotta read the words "Tulips on an organ," to know a person is talking about flowers and music. The words may take on a different visual meaning in the listener's mind's eye.
Hi! My name is ot’geth’tsu, my ancestors played these stones called che’ bal’gi. This translates roughly to “announcing sound’ when we approached a settlement we played kl’p kl’p which let people know who we were and our intent❤
Hi, the right translate of "play a instrument" in brazil is "tocar" like "how to play drums" the right translate will be "como tocar bateria" Nice video btw 😀
Considering that classic rock, metal, and hard rock are all the most complex forms of "main stream music" you gotta love this. Music has always been an integral part of society and human development.
I’m trying to figure out just how they came up with an instrument from this. It seems more likely that these would have been used for making/sharpening tools. That seems way more logical than an instrument.
They are amazing!!! I would love to hear them playing in their natural inherent environment for echoing off the land!!! Mountain ears hear different than plains.
The stigma against Nickelback comes from wanting to distance yourself from actually having enjoyed their music when you were younger. And now you want to appear older and having progressed away from what actually still sounds good to you though you don't want to admit it since they sound too emotional for your tastes. Sort of how you feel bad when you see something you did a long time ago because it was childish, you now feel bad for having enjoyed Nickelback since the tastes of today are much less emotional and more "hardcore". When hardcore is really just about not having any feelings at all.
Thank you British Museum for making this video so that we get to hear what these ancient instruments sound like. It’s always tantalizingly frustrating to see old instruments lying silently in a museum case. I always want to hear what they sound like!
If your interested> Im a Geologist from Pennsylvania, USA. I found a very special type of blue stone here that rings like nothing you've ever hear so I started cutting tabs on these big stones which then really produces some crazy sounds
More than 2000 years ago. 2000 years ago was when Jesus was around and all that. The pyramids were made a few thousand years before that. They had flutes and even some version of the guitar
What a great example of how inter-disciplinary archaeology can be! Getting a musician to play ancient instruments isnt anything new, but its the first time Ive seen someone play some rock gongs! I can only imagine how amazing they mustve sounded in situ.
So, is that the only explanation they had for the "unnatural wear and tear"? How do you even notice something like that, and then decide it's a gong, that people played thousands of years ago..? I'm not doubting this at all btw, I just find it amazing how they figure out what stuff is, that they've never seen before!
Why does buddy look like he just got out of bed? He looks like he forgot that the landlord was coming over that day and is trying to hide his hangover.
She raises an interesting point about the context of the site toward the end. Were one were more interested in structuring an argument than I, one could make a compelling argument that maybe these should have stayed where they were found so people interesting in them could absorb that context for themselves in the future.
This is the only genre of music that can truly be called "classic rock"
It seems "heavy rock" to me
Ancient rock
I love this puns.
Classical Rock
True rock
Ancient bassplayer: - "Dude, I'm not moving your kit again."
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This hit far too close to home. lol
Is this why no one helps the drummer now? Lol
It was really tough to find good roadies in those days.
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RUclips is really pushing the whole 'return to monke' thing with these recommendations.
monke brain like rock go smash
oki
As it should be
LOL!
Everyone is watching return to monke videos!
Thanks for the tutorial, just got my giant rock gong and had no idea how to play. This one saved my rock gong band
Bangin
Lol
I got a newb one from Amazon for £39.99, and am starting out. Those Franks won't even know what hit them.
@@neilwilson5785 them flint stones are such a strange family you know wanna play boulder ball?
Bang a Gong
this is real rock, not like the garbage you hear nowadays
Omg best comment lol
There is True Kult.... And then, there is True Rock
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@@seanowbo lmao good one
Now this is what people want to vibe to when they say they're "born in the wrong generation"
Just imagining walking through the primordial jungle at night, and in the distance you see the light of a fire and hear a caveman laying down a sick-ass stone-core drum & bass beat.
*When the ayahuasca kicks in*
And these ancient ravers have shrooms and complain about the scene being better last year
"...tink-tink-tink, God save Queen! Fascist regime! Tink-tink-tink..."
The entire point of life:
Jesus did not come to be served, but to serve. Mathew 20: 28. We are no different. This entire life is a representation of the spiritual warfare going on. Good vs evil. God isn't a flying man in the sky, but the actual representation of Love, Hope, Joy, Peace, Light, etc. Not metaphor, but literally, like an extra demintional wavelength of thought, emotions, and intent. The devil is the opposite wavelength, pain, fear, hate, anger, darkness, etc. Human life is serving one of these two. Not a man in the sky, actual sentient collective universal Love. However, humans are primatives, we make mistakes. It's in our nature, since the fall, to go down the wrong path. This means at some time each one of us has served darkness to some degree. God understands our limited understanding of our own actions, so he gave us forgiveness, though sacrificing himself in human form as Jesus Christ. It is our duty to accept that sacrifice, get the forgiveness, and be better, helping others be better, and spreading this wavelength of Love, Hope, Joy, Peace, Light, etc, thoughout the universe. But God had to make a way for us to get to this place spiritually, this is why evidence is not allowed. Evidence will make you believe, using the fear of absolute punishment to change your behavior, but that won't make you better, just scared. Faith makes you better. It is what redeemes us, not our works. Faith is the hope that things get better, that justice always prevails, that we're at least loved by our creator. But it has to be Faith in Jesus, because of his sacrifice. And there can't be evidence to point us to him, because Love had to be fair. If there were a code in our DNA, what about everyone born before genetic sequencing? If there were a book with the solar system thosands of years ago, what would stop an evil person from hiding/destroying it? If it were something you had to go to, what about the geographically isolated, imprisoned, or enslaved. If it were a train of logic, what about the uneducated, or mentally slow? Not to mention all the people born before schools. Love cannot give to one without giving to the other. So the key to salvation had to be something everyone has access to. The only thing is Faith. This is why God puts it upon your heart to learn about these things, even if it's only to criticize, or hate. God is everywhere, because Love is everywhere, and so is the devil, because hate is everywhere. They're in your head all the time, regardless of weather or not you accept that. They whisper inside your heart, giving you ideas. But more than that, they're inside everyone's heart. This is how they get things done. They corrordanate us like pieces on a chess board. The only difference is, we get to chose who's side we're playing for. At the end of our life, we go to that team's home base, Heaven, or Hell. A place where all that exists is those wavelengths. Hate, pain, anger, fear, darkness; or Love, Hope, Joy, Peace, Pleasure, Light. The choice is yours to make. But you cannot go to Heaven with hate in your heart. You must forgive, repent, and spread joy for those around you. These are sentient eternal controlling forces in our universe. Heaven and Hell are very real places, I've seen them. Those steps prime your soul for a meeting with God. Very literally. Once you've done all four, in that order, you get divine revelation, with all the evidence you'll ever need. They are, forgive your parents, brake down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read the Bible. Step four takes three books to get the revelation. I recommend Genesis, Mathew, and then either Luke, Psalms, or proverbs. The order of the steps is important, step 1 has to come before step 3. I can state that for an absolute certainty that these steps always work. Please, take your salvation seriously. See for yourself. Do those steps. Jesus Christ is Lord. It's all True.,
@@jamesmayle4712 Did Jesus ever rock on a rock gong?
They should record him playing a loop and just have it quietly going in that room.
Top idea, would be soothing and interesting. Not to mention a paycheck for a young artist.
"who the fuck is banging the stones"
Perfect ambiance.
That's a great idea, it would really help bring the exhibition to life 👌
after reading, im disappointed they didnt...
As a stone carver I know the ring of good marble, but outside a museum in Bangkok I came across an ancient stone gong and just rapping it with my knuckles produced a bell tone. I was amazed.
certain igneous rocks seem to have enough tension to ring when struck
I bet the rap was lit 🔥🔥🔥🔥
"what instrument do you play?"
"rock"
"that's genre. i asked what instrument."
"rock"
I am Ugg.
I play notched stick.
Rock player gets all the pvssy.
This make Ugg mad.
Interestingly, there are rare examples of stone ideophones (rock gongs) that have made their way into more recent music history.... Just not in the Western world. There are stone marimbas in Africa - though wood is far more common. There's also an ancient Chinese instrument which is tuned to the pentatonic scale - all rocks hung on a rack - the Bianzhong. It is played in certain traditional Chinese music, usually alongside a Chinese carillon.
@@ems7623 stoner rock :v defo extremely interesting 🥁🗿
if you play the temple blocks in an orchestra you can say wood and get away with it
pioneers used to play these babies for hours
woah ok Im glad i stumbled upon this comment 😂
thank you
Gimme that pizza!!!!
And they're in great shape!
It’s not a boulder, it’s a slab ;)
They don’t make them like they used to anymore
XD made my day
Reliced vintage gear is always so expensive.
A Netflix Nerd Girl now you're the 3rd :)
A Netflix Nerd Girl lmao why so salty? It's a funny joke
A Netflix Nerd Girl looks like he got 500+ more likes than you by saying something
Gotta love how they speculate over how these people played the music, one handed, two handed, squatting, seated, Meanwhile I'm just thinking, they hit it, it made sound, create a beat and play until you get bored.
They're trying to figure out what the culture was around it, though. There's a certain way you play a guitar, for example, and it's very recognizable and part of our cultural image of a guitar. It would be neat to know if our distant ancestors had a cultural image of a rock gong player. They're studying how our ancestors thought of the rock gong, not just how they used it.
Very insightful, Tobias - I can see why you became an anthropologist
Hey, that's just what I do with soda bottles.
That’s why you’re not a scientist.
But the sounds would be TOTALLY different with the rocks on rocks rather than the tinny sound of the metal shelf it’s on.
I suppose even if they were mounted more authentically they'd still sound a bit different in that room than they would in a cave or wherever . . . but those metal stands though?
I guess --I've-- _we've all_ got more important things to worry about *_`: \_*
no the rocks really do sound like metal when you bang them...no matter what you set them on
ruclips.net/video/3kr1D5-GW44/видео.html
@@umbertopaggi3006 ^this video is enlightening. I thought the metal mounting bracket was affecting the sound too, but that video suggests otherwise.
I think its actually the "town bell" and not a musical instrument.
It could be heard for miles and used to call people in for dinner or worship.
The video really doesn't do the noise justice. I had an opportunity to play some of these on my uncle's farm in South Africa, they were surprisingly resonant and sounded closer to a wooden xylophone.
Is there something special about these rocks? Is it just that they are the right shape for playing? Thanks :)
Travis Jones just a guess, but perhaps the high silica content might contribute to it's resonance
Jon Dunham most commonly diorite ( I googled it)
Finn Driver
Cool
They sound like garbage because they're in a museum. The acoustics of that room is atrocious. Imagine that played in an open field or a cave.
Museum sign: "Please, do not touch"
This guy:
Long ago, jamming together must surely have been compulsive and addictive. People craved the bond that arises from collaborative effort. That was the success of people in all endeavors, collaboration and improvisation. Jamming is as Human as it gets.
Yes, I love this point of view!!! Connection through shared experience and collective consciousness! Small communities of people who shared their lives with one another and knew loyalty. People who worked hard for the collective and felt that connection 😌
True
well, whales and birds (and probably some other animals) also like a good jam, it's not exclusively human but still...
later the guitar was invented and so created greed and selfishness 😂😂😂 now everyone is a show off they don't want to do teamwork...
We are a song
Only 15000 BCE kids will remember
GINNVNGAGAP LoooL this is too nostalgic
😂😂😂
Lolwtf
Was expecting a comment like this lol
@ScaryFawn no BCE works
It would be hilarious if these were just used to work leather or something.
A young artist and an experienced archaeologist, ten thousand years from now, trying to figure out how to play an anvil XD
Yeah! ... interesting possibility. Hummm. One thing I’ve noticed, archeologists some times jump into conclusions of the use of some artifact not knowing that much about the culture they are researching. It’s as if they want to ne the ones who gave the use instead of leaving the door open to other possibilities for latter findings where they’ll find or understand a bit more about it.
@@mitsuomits9077 I think there are those types in any field of science. There was a family in Turkey whose kids all walked on all fours and some highly regarded geneticists and others jumped to the conclusion that they had some missing link gene. They really just had abnormal cerebellums.
@@Skenderbeuismyhero That's true. And about the Turkish family, I think I saw a documentary about them, are they the ones that can walk with their knees almost all straight ( if I remember well)?.
and even then the rocks would still sound. and since most crafts are rhythm based, working these stones would most likely still generate music. check "FOLI (there is no movement without rhythm)" to get an idea of that... our societies are tuned into very different kinds of rhythms than most other who ever shared this planet, yet even our machines are music
I'm only in my 40s and I think Neolithic music is the best music ever.
So if you were 80 you would like them more ???
@@kaptainplanet7203 you’re dumb
I don't believe you sorry.
What's next?
@@urdumb2772 username checks out
*caveman see’s this*
:why they beat table?
"Ug... It called _rock_
It be big some day"
@Brian Holtzman **Caveman sees comment**
:what's picture?
@@DanJuega **Caveman sees computer monitor playing video**
What this thing? Light come out! Me see mini people! Why can't me go inside??
**caveman destroys monitor out of curiosity**
It magic! Light go away!
Caveman: uh it do be fire
Lol
There are very similar gongs still around in Ethiopia at some of the older churches. Usually they are suspended from a small tree or something and give off pretty clear sounds.
not indie enough for me
this comment is under rated
I only listen to Mongolian throat singing
drhoneybadger thats so mainstreem!
Me i only listen to yaks mating.
best comment
When he said he was in an indie rock band, from the context I thought he meant these actual rocks. Thought it was the most hipster, Portlandia-ish shit I had ever heard
Rock is still the best long term data storage medium we have.
"Written in stone" is no joke
I don't know, glass and DNA are both pretty promising
@@Not_actually_a_commie DNA changes SO EASILY, and never looked promising to anyone without black UV proof cryo storage units.
Glass breaks WAY TOO EASY.
Neither look promising.
@@D-Vinko I don't know if synthetic DNA is subject to the same changes as the organic stuff. To my knowledge, mutations come from transcription errors, so we'd only have a problem if we tried to copy the DNA (and even then, in a controlled environment we may be able to either fix the error or start over).
Glass is actually much more durable than you would think, and stone is much more fragile.
It's all about crystal, more specifically, quartz memory.
I won't post a link incase it's scrubbed, but if one pastes the following into a search engine the article should come up:
'...There might now be a more elegant solution after a team reports how they managed to cram 360TB worth of five-dimensional (5D) digital data onto a small quartz disk. The researchers claim the data is stable for as long as 13.8 billion years at temperatures up to 190 degrees Celsius.'
🤙🏻
imagine if this guy was actually not allowed to be there and he just started smacking the rocks while the camera people were making documentaries
And modern drummers are trying to call their kits “vintage” smh 😤😤😤
"How do we know this rock was used as an actual rock gong?" Easy: we just flip it over and see the ancient Ludwig drum manufacturing company logo, duh.
Wade Guidry 😂🤣😂🤣🤟🏻 “im rick harrison and this is my rock shop”
I know this is a reference from somewhere
These were produced by Remo.
@@nerychristian those hand rocks were made by Vic Firth 😂😂
Hahaha that was a good one😄
The Maori mastered Nephrite, and used the stone in a hollowed out Totara tree. A large green stone cylinder was hung inside. A slit was cut on the side of the tree. A green stone club was used to hit the slit and a gong sound would resonate for miles. One used be on one tree hill in Auckland New Zealand. It was cut down over a hundred years ago. It was thought it was already dead. But in fact it was a giant gong.
Waiting for Toto Africa being played on this
How the hell can this be an instrument while mayonnaise isn't?
because it’s a fucking house
What do you mean "mayonnaise isn't"?
Mayonnaise is always an instrument
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@@meganlodon thank you!
Humans millions of years ago: banging on rocks
Humans now: banging on rocks on RUclips
Humans didn't exist millions of years ago. Just FYI.
@@Olly676
Modern humans didn't. But similar creatures did, and I'm sure they banged on rocks for fun too
@@ElectricAlien577 I don't think there's any evidence that they did? But sure, whatever
@@Olly676 ‘humans’ as in homosapiens have existed for roughly 300,000/400,000 years, but evolution is much more complicated than that and the earliest known human relative is anamensis’ around 4 million years ago.
@@jacobshabir2722 Recent estimates tend to place the emergence of modern humans somewhat more recently than that (see, for example, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6736881/ ), and arguably all cellular life is a known human relative, no? Our hominid ancestors were using stone tools up to a few million years ago, though, true. Were they doing it because they enjoyed the sound it made? Who knows, maybe.
I would probably accidentally break it
Osama Bin Laden lmao
Damn, what kind of arms you got on you to break a 30cm slab of rock.
Mountaindew ii
Graknorke It’s just that I’m a rock breaker, and my father before me was a rock breaker, and his father before him, and his father before him....it’s in my blood to break rocks
Mountaindew "probably accidentally"
“We even know a few of the songs that the first people played, they left their demo tape underneath and called themselves the Rolling Stones”
Ugh.
Derek Wall 😂😂😂
the band got off to a rough start - until they took the corners off
Just the Stones?
Keith Richards original name was 'grog grog".
I’m curious how they came to the conclusion that this was used as a gong and not possibly just a surface to crack buts or grind flower or something like that
Thats what i thought dude
She mentioned that they found small amounts of wear all over the rock, which wouldn’t have been the case if it were used to grind stuff, plus the wear pattern of a grinder is very different from hitting it like a drum, so they would’ve been able to tell if that was it’s purpose. Also, you don’t really need a rock that big in order to crack nuts or grind flower, the job can be done with much smaller and more transportable stones.
A lof of anthropology is an hoax.
I'm not trying to be a nitpick here dearies but it's Flour*
Obviously there's speculation here, but I think the position and wear pattern of the stones (vs known wheat grinding rocks) but it seems entirely reasonable that grinding stones led to drum stones once someone noticed the change in pitch.
Yes. Finally a good instructional video to play my rock gongs
If she hasn't played the rock gong before...she's too young for you bro!
It's fascinating how integral music has always been to mankind. We always have found a way to make sounds and rhythms, even with just rocks. I think that's cool.
Great. Eight minutes of hearing them talk about how ancient people hit these rocks, and virtually no playing of the rock. And when he does play, people are talking over it
I was thinking exactly this. I want to hear him play uninterrupted.
@@rorqualmaru ik and she even invited him back @britishmuseum give us more!
It sounds to me like most of the sound comes form those metal stands that hold the rocks :/
Nurpus That's exactly where it's coming from.
can't believe more people haven't noticed that
without the stands it would just be like beating you living room wall. I doubt these were used for musical purposes
read the description c:
If you are interested though give her paper a read on the Sudan rescue-archaeological dig if you want a bit more info :-)
s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/30514902/Kleinitz2004_RockArtSudan_IshashiSurvey_Sudan-Nubia8.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1526989357&Signature=ftrwW2aaTwiqLSZ1nW%2FR%2Ft1xQMs%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DRock_art_and_rock_gongs_in_the_Fourth_Ni.pdf
A tip on the Pt-br translation: use "tocar" instead of "jogar", "jogar" is about playing a game while "tocar" is playing an instrument.
wonder if they got that wrong in Spanish too
Rock music.
k
Classic Rock.
The Original ""ROCK" Music"!
Finally!!
experimental folk noise?
"Ma'am?? Ma'am!! Please stop!!"
Me, jamming on King Tut's sarcophagus: "it's ok, it's fine. I been at this 15 years."
Thanks a lot, now I've got Steve Martin's King Tut stuck in my head. yay. "... Born in Arizona, moved to Babalonia. King Tut"
I know right 😂
"What's your favorite type of music?"
Rock.
No literally. *Rock.*
Now that was some real hard rock
Aaron Nako oh no you didnt
Progressive as fuuuuuck
*regressive rock
He's white, by the law of the progressive, wouldn't this be some kind of racism?
@@enizle5 progressive in the musical context...
What band would use these? Maybe Thank you Scientist?
I would want to see an uncut session of him just messing around with the rock gong
It really does take the right person to come along to actuate on theory-craft to bring something like this to life. Liam was definitely the right person. Had this only been explained to me, I may have doubted it, as the direct evidence seems slim for saying that is absolutely what their purpose was. But seeing and hearing Liam actually go at those reinforces the idea a lot in my mind.
Plot twist. It's just a normal rock
@@joeykangaroo8396 That's a wooden shelf that's painted grey my dude.
Omaha Joe and were just a normal organic accident.
@@cooliodiablo6117 the British Museum doesnt have 600 lb caveman instruments on "wooden shelves" my dude.
@@joeykangaroo8396 there is no way the components of the rock make it sound like a metal. That's the sound of the metal base the rock is set on.
@@AnaVerona_ you clearly never played with rocks, or pottery tiles, same ringing high pitched sound
It would take an archeologist with an open mind to really discover the music in the stones. How they were mounted or placed originally would have a huge effect on how much they resonated. The size of and weight of the mallet object and the reflectivity of the surrounding area. It would be interesting to let a musician have a go at it without any input on how it is thought to have been played. Allow them to find the tones in the material. Super interesting.
I'm less annoyed by the cynical people in the comment section and more sad that they seem to have lost all sense of wonder and excitement about the possibilities for good things this world has to offer.
Everything's subjective, hence why we have opinions. If it weren't that way, we'd all be the same carbon copy of each other. Which is clear to everyone. They didn't assume anything, simply disappointed everything is a rebuttle and an argument not just "hey thats pretty cool" or even if you don't like it simply "eh im not interested *click*".
I had a really shitty day today because of witnessing the incredible negativity and stupidity of people for multiple times today. Your comment cheered me up, reminded me of the other type of people out there. Thanks man.
This is not about taste it's about curiosity. That's how people have been indoctrinated by their governments, they don't think, they don't go beyond anything they just see a rock, they don't see our ancestors expressing themselves and the beginning of music. People are uneducated and when presented with something new they don't understand (or that doesnt have a touchscreen on it), instead of being CURIOUS about it they dismiss it as stupid and not worthy of their time. You only need to see how a kid would react to this and how an adult that has been through the "education" system does.
Dliess Mgg thank you for saying exactly how I felt I agree but you know what there are some people that still have Wonder in their heart I'm one of them and I'm glad to know that you are too
Why does everyone have to be a skeptic lmao...
A lot of this evidence seems extremely circumstantial....
@@absoluteunit8628 I'm not opposed to looking at research and, as a professional musician with a degree in vocal performance, am VERY interested in the origins of music. I'm human so I'm wrong all the time and am totally ok with being proven wrong again, but this just seems really vague.
Also, why the name calling? What about what you know about me makes me a whore?
Sorry
@@absoluteunit8628 I appreciate your apology. Thank you.
Damn, seems like I found something interresting in this vulgar burial ground that is the youtube comment section. Bit more digging is needed though, because the find seems incomplete. A piece of the comments seems to have gone missing. We'll probably never know what it said exactly....
@@paulagebhardt6018 It seems like our search has come to an end. After ten, long, sleepless minutes the missing piece to our lifeswork has been found. We can now die peacefully. Spread this story, of heroes and fallen commenters amongst your friends so that it can live on...forever...
I really didn't expect to end this day on a rock gongcert.
would love to hear some recordings of them in their original environment....to hear the sound play of other surfaces in the vicinty; doing it in the museum gives you a basic notion, but the acoustics of the space are inevitably going to be strikingly different..
The original environment is meters deep underwater now, a dam was built.
I wonder if they have much sound at all when not mounted to steel reverberation chambers.
@@charlesalexanderable look up rock gongs. There are videos of people playing these type of rocks.
Those aren’t metal reverberation chambers, they’re just mounting frames. They sound like they do acoustically because they contain high iron content.
All of these know-it-alls in this comment section saying that these weren't musical instruments annoy me to no end. First, these archaeologists obviously know what the difference between wear and tear from grinding up grain, building, and other such things, so clearly they wouldn't make another completely different explanation for the hell of it. Second, and probably most importantly, rock gongs are still made and played in some parts of the world today, so they would clearly have a reference point.
It's well known, that these "experts" have come up with utterly ludicrous bullshit over the years, that have later been proved to be absolutely false.
The general problem with people who start to study history or archeology as a major, is that their motivation is often politically biased to begin with, not objective desire for increasing knowledge. People who actually have actual desire for increasing knowledge as motivation, usually study an actual science instead.
Anyone who disagrees with this:
1) Has never studied at a university for significant period of time
2) Is poor judge of character
3) Is part of the problem
Or some combination of those 3
Blind belief in authority is willful ignorance.
So what you're saying is Libtards are full of shit, and they lie :P
How do you know someone's political affiliation? Also, liberals won the US Revolutionary War and Civil War, as well as WWII.
Using cliches is a way of avoiding thinking for yourself.
Erilaz could also try analysing "the general problem" with himself and others like him. "people who actually have actual desire...usually study an actual..." What???? Erilaz you cannot even speak and yet you want to criticise ALL archaeologists that EVER existed. Please go back to the school that told you you passed and get your money back :)
You can tell she would LOVE for him to come regularly and serenade her rock-specialist heart out...
Well, how neat is that! I love, love learning about human culture, and in particular deep, pre-historical human behaviors. This video was right up my alley. Thanks for the content.
"What instrument do you play?"
"Its complicated..."
“I’m in a rock band, we’re pretty underground”
what if they bring back the cave man and they just be like “nah thats just a rock man”
I would have expect we would hear the actual sound these rocks would produce in context where they were played instead of the metallic sound of the shelves holding them.
+Pedro “Dalannar” Marques That was a bit of a shame, however I did still get a sense for the method of play, and the ways in which sound variation were achieved, so the video certainly lived up to its name. That said, I would have liked to hear the instrument, if not in its natural habitat, in a habitat that allowed its sound to come through more authentically.
Are you a fan of Jean Auel's Earth's Children series? I don't recall any rock gongs from the books, but I would love to see how a mammoth skull drum was played. :)
Never heard of them, might check them out though :)
Kendawg McAwesome It's an old series written by an amateur archeologist. It's fascinating, she completely reconstructed Stone Age Europe. I asked the OP because "Dalannar" is the name of one of the minor characters. :)
LagiNaLangAko23 Haha! Yup, that's the one. :)
But could they play smoke on the water?
i love the sound it makes! i could totally see myself disappointing my prehistoric parents when I tell them I want to be a rock "gonger" instead of a hunter like my dad
😄 most underrated comment
Being gonger is not a real job. You will go to the hunt with your dad tomorrow, young man. I dont want any complaints, end of the discussion.
do you think that the leather drum was met with opposition when invented?
i mean, if these were used ceremoniously once they invented the drum with a completely different tone people would've felt it was out of place and maybe there was some people who spent a significant amount of time learning to produce the right sound on the stones, and the techniques didn't exactly translate to the drums so they bashed it as dumb, inefficient or a children's toy back in the day.
idk, just a random thought i had.
Diego R. Huh good question
It seems perfectly understandable for me. Just like people today claim that music sounds better on vinyl than on CD. But eventually leather drums would come out on top, because of their easy mobility.
If your ceremony calls for rock gongs, you use rock gongs, nor reason leather drums would win out since a ceremony does not need to be efficient. Keep in mind historical people might travel ridiculous distances to visit religious places. In france people would climb tje steps of mont sant michele on their knees and in tibet people will prostrate themselves for the full circuit of the Potala Palace and sometimes even the journey to and from the Potala Palace even.
A pilgrammage is all about the journey and making an effort.
A ceremony on the other hand is a purely symbolic act and can (and will) be fitted for the situation.
JackhammerJesus that is a somewhat modern atitude, historically many people would have viewed the ritual al having very real importance. I should also point out that people still use rock gongs in some places so clearly leather drums did not completely replace them.
Person - Hits rock
Random guy - oh wow
Ok, this is super cool and awesome! This kind of archeology and art is just amazing! Marvellous!!
Finally! I’ve had this thing on me for about 7000 years and I’m finally able to play it
“I HEAR THE ROCKS ECHOING TONIGHT, but she hears only whispers of some quiet monke”
Falling in love with a percussionist served to make for a new way of hearing music. Thank you from a light sculptor in the Show Me state, for sharing this history of music. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. You gotta read the words "Tulips on an organ," to know a person is talking about flowers and music. The words may take on a different visual meaning in the listener's mind's eye.
That’s a nice boulder.
Civilian: "Ah, they blew up my house again. Why do we have wars? All I see are ruins"
RockDrummer: "I see potential"
Hi! My name is ot’geth’tsu, my ancestors played these stones called che’ bal’gi. This translates roughly to “announcing sound’ when we approached a settlement we played kl’p kl’p which let people know who we were and our intent❤
Hi, the right translate of "play a instrument" in brazil is "tocar" like "how to play drums" the right translate will be "como tocar bateria"
Nice video btw 😀
Scientist - we are trying to figure out how the would have played then
Dummer - hold my sticks
Considering that classic rock, metal, and hard rock are all the most complex forms of "main stream music" you gotta love this. Music has always been an integral part of society and human development.
I’m trying to figure out just how they came up with an instrument from this. It seems more likely that these would have been used for making/sharpening tools. That seems way more logical than an instrument.
I'm an audio engineer...I'm just imagining someone coming to the studio with this. Like "Hey, can you mic up my rock?!"🙃
Sorry, Gibson doesn't make a pickup for that.
They are amazing!!! I would love to hear them playing in their natural inherent environment for echoing off the land!!! Mountain ears hear different than plains.
Still better rock than Nickelback.
YOU TALK SHIT BOUT NICKELBACL???
Howdy Justice same
Good One *Cousteau voice*
The stigma against Nickelback comes from wanting to distance yourself from actually having enjoyed their music when you were younger. And now you want to appear older and having progressed away from what actually still sounds good to you though you don't want to admit it since they sound too emotional for your tastes. Sort of how you feel bad when you see something you did a long time ago because it was childish, you now feel bad for having enjoyed Nickelback since the tastes of today are much less emotional and more "hardcore". When hardcore is really just about not having any feelings at all.
I can't help but wonder what those would sound like on rocks or the earth rather than that hollow ish metal platform that is reverberating.
it's the sound of the rock, I was studying geology when in college, that's the same sound when out hammer and pickaxes hit a quartz based rock
Hiroko Kaku it would sound different on different stand. Go put a rock on the ground and smack it then put it on a countertop and smack it.
AdamOrnelles read the description
Lol Im with adam, that has to effect the tone...
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Thank you British Museum for making this video so that we get to hear what these ancient instruments sound like. It’s always tantalizingly frustrating to see old instruments lying silently in a museum case. I always want to hear what they sound like!
me: "time to sleep"
youtube: BUT ROCK GONG
Friend : Do you play music?
Me : Yes, i play rock!
Friend : Rock music? Nice! What instrument do you play?
Me : A Rock
If your interested> Im a Geologist from Pennsylvania, USA. I found a very special type of blue stone here that rings like nothing you've ever hear so I started cutting tabs on these big stones which then really produces some crazy sounds
ok but can we have some undisturbed footage of liam playing the gongs.... please?
Right felt like i was in history class
2000 years ago.."I'm bored, I'm gonna sit here and hit this rock for awhile..."
More than 2000 years ago. 2000 years ago was when Jesus was around and all that. The pyramids were made a few thousand years before that. They had flutes and even some version of the guitar
@@zzodysseuszz ancient greeks even had organs
@@shneancy220 yep. The Hebrews had some very interesting instruments like the Oboe and some variants of the modern guitar.
2000 years ago ? are you serious ?
Ah I remember this kit, drummer Ogg Gogbahgon and AC/BC were touring on the summer of 50000 BC where I watched them live.
I was there too! I still have my concert fur.
@@SquidzitAce MammothStruck is one of their songs that stood the test of time
Back in my days we had real music. Then they started hitting at the edges
I remember back when my grandparents were being chased by
Styracosaurus and end up bringing back rocks that sound good aahh good times
What a great example of how inter-disciplinary archaeology can be! Getting a musician to play ancient instruments isnt anything new, but its the first time Ive seen someone play some rock gongs! I can only imagine how amazing they mustve sounded in situ.
Cavemen: "that's that real music right there"
Music with rocks in!
The Root Boy Cooks ! - Pterry !
You know you're old when this brings back memories
What if they were just banging on a random rock
JItterRy PoKERy then that's some damn good sounding rocks
@Santi Chasca They're on flat plates and wooden shelves... you can't make that sound hollow like the rocks do
@Santi Chasca shelves
@Santi Chasca rekt
@Santi Chasca ruclips.net/video/3kr1D5-GW44/видео.html
So, is that the only explanation they had for the "unnatural wear and tear"? How do you even notice something like that, and then decide it's a gong, that people played thousands of years ago..? I'm not doubting this at all btw, I just find it amazing how they figure out what stuff is, that they've never seen before!
the wear patterns for natural wear vs use for grinding grain/tools vs this are all different
Oh, you most definitely should find it amazing.
Oh, the pioneers used to play these for hours, _and it's in great shape!_
Cavemen beating a rock:
Uhg... So primitive
Modern man beating a rock:
ART
Why does buddy look like he just got out of bed? He looks like he forgot that the landlord was coming over that day and is trying to hide his hangover.
He's a drummer, they all look like that
She raises an interesting point about the context of the site toward the end. Were one were more interested in structuring an argument than I, one could make a compelling argument that maybe these should have stayed where they were found so people interesting in them could absorb that context for themselves in the future.
Me: shows new electronic drum kit to grandfather
Also me: can I get this for my birthday?
Grandfather: back in my day...
But mom we have Rock concert at home.
rock concert at home:
:)
Rock and Roll is a lot older than we thought
reading comments is more entertaining than the videos.
What video? Oh yea