Excellent content! I drive electric renault kangoo in the city and had to change Hancock tyres after 18 months (did maximum 20k miles) which was shocking. Shame I haven't watched your video on tyre recommendation, but I hope continental EcoContact 6 will last longer. After reading comments, I guess my acceleration on traffic lights might cause this quick wear. 😅
I put Goodyear EfficiencyGrip Performance 2 tyres on the front of my e-Niro. They are A rated for fuel efficiency and I could swear I got an improvement in the efficiency - I get 5.1-5.2 miles per kW now from about 4.3.
Have tended to go for Michelin CrossClimates so far in 6 years of EV ownership, but good to be aware of other options. I'll take a slight efficiency loss for the sake of improved traction and stopping in cold or wet conditions.
Yes me too. No point on having great efficiency in the winter if you crash your car! When looking a all-season tyres, I tend to go for the quietest and the Goodyears were quieter and a little cheaper than the CC2.
i live in the states and have the '19 with the 28kWh pack on a set of Michelin CrossClimate 2s. i average about 4.7-5.2 mi/kWh; and they're rated for high rolling resistance due to being all-weather tires (basically all-season 2.0 because they have the 3 peak snowflake for severe snow service)
I have the Continental Allseason Contact 2 fitted to my Kona. They are quiet, comfortable, safe and this is why they have knocked the Michelin cross climates off the top spot.
I have them on my Ioniq since february. After 1 week I put hem on, I had collision on completely wet rainy day. The road was full of water. They were amazing and held car. I think I will buy the same next time or newer edition.
I drive a 71 reg Ioniq 5 RWD LR which is still on its original Michelin Primacy 4 tyres. I'm happy with summer tyres because I live on the south coast and we rarely get frost let alone snow. The Ioniq 5 is much bigger and heavier car than the Ioniq EV and I don't drive it slowly but I'm on track to get over 35K from the rears and over 50K from the front. I'm well pleased with that as I used to average 28K from my combustion car tyres.
My kona on original Michellins at 32k miles. Ive rotated twice so all pretty much the same tred depth of 3.5mm or thereabouts. So should last until winter arrives. Then consider either all season or efficient grip performance.
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I was watching another you tuber talking about all season tyres in slippery conditions.The results he found that it's better to have the more worn tyres on the front.Keeps the back of the car from stepping out.Any thoughts?
Yes, that's always been the case. The better tyres or new tyres should always be fitted on the rear. In this case on the Ioniq, I've left it a bit late to rotate the fronts to the rear, so we'll probably leave it and wear the fronts down, then fit a new pair and rotate them around then.
@@philipcrossley1279 Yes. Its safer to stability to have the best gripping tyres on the rear. Loosing traction on the front wheels is easier to handle.
Thanks for this. My experience with the Kia e-Niro (now on 106,000 km) is that EV tyres wear no quicker than tyres on an ICE car. I recently changed out my front tyres after 52,000 km (30,000 miles) of use. They were still at 4 mm but with winter coming and the CT (French MOT) coming next March I didn't want to take any chances. I plan to put those on the rear at 120,000 km and get another set of fronts which I estimate will come next spring/summer. I use Hanook Ventus Prime.
@@GoGreenAutos I'd imagine that going over mountain passes at speed frequently also wears them out quickly with all that weight being constantly accelerated, deccelerated and shifted around tight corners.
@@svr5423 abought 20% or 200kg lighter based on checking some vehicles with petrol and electric versions although the media likes to quote 30% which isn't representative.
I drive my Tesla model S 75D fast and get 25,000 miles from a set of tyres (all ware is equal ) I previously owned a CLS 55 that is a much lighter car. The two cars similar performance but the CLS would get 7000 miles from the rear and 10000 miles on the front. I believe the most important difference is the four wheel drive and it's electronic traction control.
A point I should have included in the video is that traction control systems are much better in EVs, just because an electric motor can react far quicker than an ICE engine & gearbox. So you get far less wheel spin (well virtually zero) in an EV if you push it hard and is another reason why EVs wear their tyres less.
@@GoGreenAutos Yes, I would guess that the reaction time could be as much as 1000 times faster, and that is why even the most powerful ICE cars cannot compete with the EV's 0 - 60 MPH times
Quick question about the Ioniq. Do the tyres have TPMS sensors or is tyre pressure done via ABS sensor. Just wondering before I buy an ioniq as I always have 2 sets of tyres for my cars. Thanks
Would guess that the tyre wear on something with a much bigger battery pack made from a less energy dense chemistry like LFP would be higher. Something like the MG4 would be interesting to know. The ioniq 38 is very light compared to most ev's.
I'll be doing a similar video on my Tesla Model Y with an LFP battery in due course. At 11,000 miles now, so it will be in about a year's time I would guess.
I put Michelin Cross Climate 2's on our ID.3 replacing the unevenly worn oem Continental summer tyres that it came with and the first owner seemed to neglect. I do check my tyres regularly and like to keep them inflated to around 2 psi above recommended. There has been no loss of economy which surprised me a little but also tyre wear is negligible. There is also no noticeable road noise difference either. I'm thinking at our rate of use that these tyres will be good for at least 8 years.
I have the same tyre on my cars and have had the same results as you. They are pretty amazing. One thing to note, personally I’d never keep them to 8 years because of degradation but that’s just me. However what you’ll find is that they’ll start cracking before that point and need changing even if there’s still some tread left. In my opinion 4-5 years life for car tyres maximum
@@AndyC2_ Yes many modern tyres will start to deteriorate and have sidewall cracking by then. They don't last as long as older tyres did. But the majority of drivers will wear them out and replace because of punctures before this is an issue.
I've been trying to decide between these and the crossclimate 2 ones on a Kona (finally given up on those borderline dangerous Nexans) - any recommendations?
I've used the Michelin CC2 and Goodyear Vector 4S on many vehicles now and they're both very similar. I think the Goodyears may last longer. But go for the quietest. Tyrereviews.com is a good source of information and also see their tyre tests on RUclips.
Continental AllSeason Contact 2 are IMO the best all weather tyres for the UK climate. They also seem to be at the top of the tyre reviews beating the Cross climates which are more snow biased.
Of course. As you say, exactly as an ICE car. Some EVs (esp Tesla's) are very high performance cars, so if you use it, it will wear the tyres....just the same as a similarly performance ICE car does.
@@GoGreenAutos You’re replying to someone with - 35 years of international car driving experience - 30 years as a UK Advanced driver with (Gold standard then ‘instructor’ with Royal Society for Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) - 30 with Institute of Advanced Motorists (First class, Masters with Distinction, ‘instructor’ with IAM/RoadSmart) - HPC (Gold award High Performance Club), Hairy Don’s ‘limit handling’, various skid pan, track days, technical handling …. - 25 as an Advanced driving instructor who has been tested by serving UK Police Advanced driving instructors every year and who has THE highest non-professional civilian car driving qualifications available in UK. Just to add some helpful context to my previous statement, I know how to drive safely and appropriately in every condition on roads and off roads. comparing like with like, EV tyres wear out quicker than ICE cars because of the weight of the car and torque from the motors, including during regenerative braking, which ICE cars do not do. Hope this helps.
@@LysanderLH Ok, as you went there.....You are replying to someone with 38 years of driving experience and 8 years of driving EVs and driven over 200 EVs. Its about how you drive, not the fact that its an EV. If you use the power, of course you'll rip through the tyres. But that is the same with any vehicle. Some EVs are heavier than ICE cars, some are not. The weight difference is much less than people assume and doesn't in reality make that much difference to the tyre wear. Yes, all EVs have more torque, but its down to how its driven, not that the powertrain. If you drive an EV the same as you drove an ICE vehicle, the tyres will last about the same.
How would the tyre wear compare to something like a C-Class 4matic or 3 series x-drive? They would have similar size/weight/power/awd so would be a fairer comparison rather than to an Ionic?
Your testing was so flawed. You used an EV that weighs the same as the petrol version. It’s very clear that the average EV weighs more than the equivalent pet version in the same class. EV’s absolutely do wear tires out quicker. Go hug a tree lol
Some do weigh more, but some don't. And its often not by the huge difference people assume. Its normally the weight of two people. But many EVs are not heavier. Teslas for example are light when you consider their size and comparable ICE vehicles.
@@GoGreenAutos you have to compare the weight of equal characteristics. My car weighs 1.4 tons and has a range of 600 to 1000km, depending on how I drive. A BEV with similar range would weigh a lot more than 1.4 tons. The Tesla Model 3 LR weighs around 1.8 tons, so already 400kg more, that's almost 30%. If I have my car heavy loaded with 400kg (people and luggage for example) additionally, it heavily influences the performance charakteristics and load on tires.
Great update, we chose these same tyres for our Mk1 KIA SOUL EV and Hyundai KONA EV
Excellent content!
I drive electric renault kangoo in the city and had to change Hancock tyres after 18 months (did maximum 20k miles) which was shocking.
Shame I haven't watched your video on tyre recommendation, but I hope continental EcoContact 6 will last longer.
After reading comments, I guess my acceleration on traffic lights might cause this quick wear. 😅
Bought these tyres on your recommendation. No regrets. Thanks for the videos 🙌🏼
Thanks. Glad you found them useful.
I put Goodyear EfficiencyGrip Performance 2 tyres on the front of my e-Niro. They are A rated for fuel efficiency and I could swear I got an improvement in the efficiency - I get 5.1-5.2 miles per kW now from about 4.3.
You probably do, but I'd be surprised it is that much or even noticeable. Sure you aren't forgetting about seasons & temperature?
Have tended to go for Michelin CrossClimates so far in 6 years of EV ownership, but good to be aware of other options. I'll take a slight efficiency loss for the sake of improved traction and stopping in cold or wet conditions.
Yes me too. No point on having great efficiency in the winter if you crash your car!
When looking a all-season tyres, I tend to go for the quietest and the Goodyears were quieter and a little cheaper than the CC2.
Thanks for all videos.
Thank you Jorgen. :-)
Very interesting, good to know
i live in the states and have the '19 with the 28kWh pack on a set of Michelin CrossClimate 2s. i average about 4.7-5.2 mi/kWh; and they're rated for high rolling resistance due to being all-weather tires (basically all-season 2.0 because they have the 3 peak snowflake for severe snow service)
I have the Continental Allseason Contact 2 fitted to my Kona.
They are quiet, comfortable, safe and this is why they have knocked the Michelin cross climates off the top spot.
Yes, I saw they did well in a more recent TyreReviews.com test, so will consider those next time.
I have them on my Ioniq since february. After 1 week I put hem on, I had collision on completely wet rainy day. The road was full of water. They were amazing and held car. I think I will buy the same next time or newer edition.
I drive a 71 reg Ioniq 5 RWD LR which is still on its original Michelin Primacy 4 tyres. I'm happy with summer tyres because I live on the south coast and we rarely get frost let alone snow. The Ioniq 5 is much bigger and heavier car than the Ioniq EV and I don't drive it slowly but I'm on track to get over 35K from the rears and over 50K from the front. I'm well pleased with that as I used to average 28K from my combustion car tyres.
Good to hear and the Ioniq 5 is a big car.
My kona on original Michellins at 32k miles. Ive rotated twice so all pretty much the same tred depth of 3.5mm or thereabouts. So should last until winter arrives. Then consider either all season or efficient grip performance.
Really good efficiency you’re getting. Better than my Tesla Model 3.
Yes the Ioniq is the most efficient EV...maybe also with the VW e-Up.
The Model 3 has a lot more power though.
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As shown in this video at 01:48
I've just check both the web and mobile version of RUclips and it's still like this.
I was watching another you tuber talking about all season tyres in slippery conditions.The results he found that it's better to have the more worn tyres on the front.Keeps the back of the car from stepping out.Any thoughts?
Yes, that's always been the case. The better tyres or new tyres should always be fitted on the rear.
In this case on the Ioniq, I've left it a bit late to rotate the fronts to the rear, so we'll probably leave it and wear the fronts down, then fit a new pair and rotate them around then.
This is absolutely 100% correct 👍🏼
Most tread always on the rears
@@philipcrossley1279 Yes. Its safer to stability to have the best gripping tyres on the rear. Loosing traction on the front wheels is easier to handle.
Yes, after watching that Petrol Ped video I realised I had been mistaken about this for the last 45+ years of motoring.
@@briangriffiths114 Yes I think his recent video will change a lot of people's views.
Thanks for this. My experience with the Kia e-Niro (now on 106,000 km) is that EV tyres wear no quicker than tyres on an ICE car. I recently changed out my front tyres after 52,000 km (30,000 miles) of use. They were still at 4 mm but with winter coming and the CT (French MOT) coming next March I didn't want to take any chances. I plan to put those on the rear at 120,000 km and get another set of fronts which I estimate will come next spring/summer. I use Hanook Ventus Prime.
Good to hear.
Great video. Good to see you don't take much of a hit with all season tyres. Just wondering if you have to reset the TPMS when you do a tyre rotation?
Normally you don't need too. Just drive and the vehicle sorts it out after a few minutes.
Would love that sort of efficiency on my standard tyres 😊
Yes, the Ioniq is probably the most efficient EV. Next is probably the VW e-Up.
Ours wear out pretty quickly on our 22 plate Kona but my Wife does like to launch at the traffic light Grand Prix!!
Yep, tyre wear on the driving wheels is proportional to the accelerator pedal.
@@GoGreenAutos I'd imagine that going over mountain passes at speed frequently also wears them out quickly with all that weight being constantly accelerated, deccelerated and shifted around tight corners.
@@svr5423 as it would in an ICE vehicle
@@GoGreenAutos not really, they are lighter.
@@svr5423 abought 20% or 200kg lighter based on checking some vehicles with petrol and electric versions although the media likes to quote 30% which isn't representative.
I drive my Tesla model S 75D fast and get 25,000 miles from a set of tyres (all ware is equal )
I previously owned a CLS 55 that is a much lighter car. The two cars similar performance but the CLS would get 7000 miles from the rear and 10000 miles on the front. I believe the most important difference is the four wheel drive and it's electronic traction control.
A point I should have included in the video is that traction control systems are much better in EVs, just because an electric motor can react far quicker than an ICE engine & gearbox. So you get far less wheel spin (well virtually zero) in an EV if you push it hard and is another reason why EVs wear their tyres less.
@@GoGreenAutos Yes, I would guess that the reaction time could be as much as 1000 times faster, and that is why even the most powerful ICE cars cannot compete with the EV's 0 - 60 MPH times
Quick question about the Ioniq. Do the tyres have TPMS sensors or is tyre pressure done via ABS sensor. Just wondering before I buy an ioniq as I always have 2 sets of tyres for my cars. Thanks
TPMS sensors.
@@GoGreenAutos Thanks. Great videos and very informative.
Would guess that the tyre wear on something with a much bigger battery pack made from a less energy dense chemistry like LFP would be higher. Something like the MG4 would be interesting to know. The ioniq 38 is very light compared to most ev's.
I'll be doing a similar video on my Tesla Model Y with an LFP battery in due course. At 11,000 miles now, so it will be in about a year's time I would guess.
@@GoGreenAutos yes that would be interesting thank you
Really puts to bed the rubbish about EVs needing tyres more often and giving off more particles etc
It does, but of course very few will actually see this and the media will keep printing the lies.
I put Michelin Cross Climate 2's on our ID.3 replacing the unevenly worn oem Continental summer tyres that it came with and the first owner seemed to neglect. I do check my tyres regularly and like to keep them inflated to around 2 psi above recommended.
There has been no loss of economy which surprised me a little but also tyre wear is negligible. There is also no noticeable road noise difference either. I'm thinking at our rate of use that these tyres will be good for at least 8 years.
Good to hear
I have the same tyre on my cars and have had the same results as you. They are pretty amazing.
One thing to note, personally I’d never keep them to 8 years because of degradation but that’s just me. However what you’ll find is that they’ll start cracking before that point and need changing even if there’s still some tread left.
In my opinion 4-5 years life for car tyres maximum
@@AndyC2_ Yes many modern tyres will start to deteriorate and have sidewall cracking by then. They don't last as long as older tyres did. But the majority of drivers will wear them out and replace because of punctures before this is an issue.
Are they 3MPSF ratted e.g. you can use them in Europe ski areas in the winter?
Yes I believe so.
Not in my persnal experience over three and a half years of EV ownership having travelled some 40k miles.
I've been trying to decide between these and the crossclimate 2 ones on a Kona (finally given up on those borderline dangerous Nexans) - any recommendations?
I've used the Michelin CC2 and Goodyear Vector 4S on many vehicles now and they're both very similar. I think the Goodyears may last longer. But go for the quietest. Tyrereviews.com is a good source of information and also see their tyre tests on RUclips.
@@GoGreenAutos Awesome, thanks for the link
Continental AllSeason Contact 2 are IMO the best all weather tyres for the UK climate.
They also seem to be at the top of the tyre reviews beating the Cross climates which are more snow biased.
It all depends how much we enjoy the accleration!! Same as an ICE car.
Of course. As you say, exactly as an ICE car. Some EVs (esp Tesla's) are very high performance cars, so if you use it, it will wear the tyres....just the same as a similarly performance ICE car does.
Yes they do.
Model 3 Long Range on second set of tyres after 2 ½ years
40,000 kms
Same as an equivalent ICE vehicle with the same power & performance.
@@GoGreenAutos You’re replying to someone with
- 35 years of international car driving experience
- 30 years as a UK Advanced driver with (Gold standard then ‘instructor’ with Royal Society for Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA)
- 30 with Institute of Advanced Motorists (First class, Masters with Distinction, ‘instructor’ with IAM/RoadSmart)
- HPC (Gold award High Performance Club), Hairy Don’s ‘limit handling’, various skid pan, track days, technical handling ….
- 25 as an Advanced driving instructor who has been tested by serving UK Police Advanced driving instructors every year and who has THE highest non-professional civilian car driving qualifications available in UK.
Just to add some helpful context to my previous statement, I know how to drive safely and appropriately in every condition on roads and off roads. comparing like with like, EV tyres wear out quicker than ICE cars because of the weight of the car and torque from the motors, including during regenerative braking, which ICE cars do not do. Hope this helps.
@@LysanderLH Ok, as you went there.....You are replying to someone with 38 years of driving experience and 8 years of driving EVs and driven over 200 EVs. Its about how you drive, not the fact that its an EV. If you use the power, of course you'll rip through the tyres. But that is the same with any vehicle. Some EVs are heavier than ICE cars, some are not. The weight difference is much less than people assume and doesn't in reality make that much difference to the tyre wear. Yes, all EVs have more torque, but its down to how its driven, not that the powertrain. If you drive an EV the same as you drove an ICE vehicle, the tyres will last about the same.
@@GoGreenAutos Regenerative braking causes more tyre wear than engine braking. Six years of owning EVs here.
How would the tyre wear compare to something like a C-Class 4matic or 3 series x-drive? They would have similar size/weight/power/awd so would be a fairer comparison rather than to an Ionic?
Your testing was so flawed. You used an EV that weighs the same as the petrol version. It’s very clear that the average EV weighs more than the equivalent pet version in the same class. EV’s absolutely do wear tires out quicker. Go hug a tree lol
Some do weigh more, but some don't. And its often not by the huge difference people assume. Its normally the weight of two people. But many EVs are not heavier. Teslas for example are light when you consider their size and comparable ICE vehicles.
I bet your kids are proud of you big 'man'.
@@AlanTov the fact you got a tree as your profile pic 😂😂😂😂
@@GoGreenAutos you have to compare the weight of equal characteristics. My car weighs 1.4 tons and has a range of 600 to 1000km, depending on how I drive.
A BEV with similar range would weigh a lot more than 1.4 tons. The Tesla Model 3 LR weighs around 1.8 tons, so already 400kg more, that's almost 30%.
If I have my car heavy loaded with 400kg (people and luggage for example) additionally, it heavily influences the performance charakteristics and load on tires.
My 2021 Kona weighs 1.68t. How much does your car weigh?