Hope you guys find the pocket hole setup useful for your own shop! If you have any tips or tricks for pocket hole drilling that you've found useful, make sure you share them here in the comments. Don't forget to use promo code POCKETHOLE to get 15% off MPT plans at www.danpattison.com/mptplans/
I really appreciate the fact that you tell us the dimensions and the screw sizes so we can get right to it! I want to build projects and the jig is a way to get there more quickly. So the easier it is for me to build the jig, the sooner I can play with projects! Keep up the good work and thanks!
I think the K5 is still Kreg's best pocket hole jig. I love vids like this one because they let me see what other people did and that helps me plan my own setups. I think when I watch, would I do it that way with my K5 in my particular shop area? Is there any way to improve on it for my situation? I also sometimes see things I didn't think about, but should have. I 8-32 x 1-1/2 machine-screwed my K5 and wings to 12x24 3/4 ACX plywood (because I usually prefer plywood to MDF when possible) with tee nuts countersunk under the plywood, so I can remove and reinstall the jig without thread erosion. My indoor bench doesn't have dog holes. I either trigger-clamp the base to my indoor bench or take it outside (I like outside when weather allows), horizontal-clamping it on a Worx Pegasus folding bench. I couldn't add any wood wing extensions on a 24" wide base. I liked your dust vac hose setup better than most I've seen with the K5 jig. The hard 1-1/4 wand angled down, instead of a fat 2-1/2 hose with a short adapter, makes for less obstruction of the hand on that side. I used a cheap plastic wand angled down to the edge of the base and connect a 1-7/8 hose to that, much like your setup. The easier and quicker this and other jigs are to get out, use, clean up, and put away, the more likely I am to use them.
Hey Dan, that's a really nice setup you have there. I'm still working with the K4 but it's always done the trick for me. I do like how the K5 has the clamp lever up front. Getting around to the back to pull the clamp can be a tricky deal sometimes with the K4. I will make a video about my pocket hole setup soon. It's a versatile setup, similar, yet quite different from yours. I really like your channel and the way you keep your shop. I like to keep a my shop the same way! 👊🙂
The K5 is great but can't find a connection for the dust port. Can you help with the connection between the dust port on the K5 and your shop vac hose? Glad I found your channel.
I use a metal adapter that I bought at a local vacuum supply store. I've tried searching online for the same adapter but haven't had any success. If you have a vacuum store locally you could try there.
The wireless charging never really caught on the way they were hoping. I think part of the reason is that battery runtimes just keep getting better so you have to charge less often anyway.
Good video Dan, your explanation and detail are very understandable. I didn't see any on your jig but one thing I did was drill a couple 3/4" holes in mine to hang on the wall... have a good one.. You just earned a subscriber.
I appreciate the subscription! I haven't decided for sure yet where I'm going to store my jig but I'll probably end up drilling some holes to hang it on the wall. Before I made the base plate it got stored in the cabinet under my assembly table but doesn't fit there now.
It really depends on the application and how much strength is required. For a typical melamine cabinet part I would go somewhere around every 12" or so.
Interesting. I wish I knew the safety tip at 3:18 before my accident. I accidently created a pocket hole next to my belly button. Being very OCD, the lack of symmetry was gnawing at me. So I also pocket holed my belly button. Now, perfect symmetry. But it was a painful episode in my life.
Dan I have had difficulty finding a dust connection adapter. I don't see a reference to the one your using for this K-5 setup. Thanks. Really nicely done videos.
I actually bought that metal vacuum adapter at a local vacuum shop. I was hoping to find a source online to link to but so far haven't been able to. If I find one I'll let you know though.
@@DPShopTalk thats nice of you to respond. The connection to the k-5 has been my biggest challenge, any tension and it snaps off. The style of your show is really enjoyable to watch. I appreciate it
It's a metal vacuum adapter I bought at a local vacuum supply shop. The shop has since gone out of business and I've never been able to find the adapter online. If you have a local vacuum supply store I would maybe try there.
I commend you on your attention to safety. Dust collection, cartridge respirators, safety glasses, hearing protection, push sticks - all go a long way to making sure you will get to enjoy your old age in good health. You might want to think about removing your wedding ring. A ring can change a minor table saw mishap from a "nick" needing a few stitches into a ripped off finger. I have a special cup hook in my shop that I hang my ring from - that way my wife knows it's for safety :)
That's a great point. I keep meaning to take my ring off when I'm working but usually forget. It's one of those things that you forget you're wearing because it's always on. I like the cup hook idea👍
Thanks! I haven't tried the K4 jig so I can't compare the two from experience but the main reason I went with the K5 was the front mounted clamp handle where as the K4 has a rear mounted handle.
I have tried both and I now have the K5. Ease of adjusting the clamp on the K5 is one thing in it's favor but the biggest thing is the location of the clamp handle. It is in front of the work piece, not BEHIND the work piece as with the K4. So, on large pieces where it would be difficult to reach around the work piece and secure the clamp using the K4, it is within easy reach with the K5. Very quick process putting in pocket holes on large pieces. Just my 2 cents.
Have you looked into getting a Kreg foreman? Since you’re a professional and build a lot of cabinets it would probably be worth it to you. Their low end “home owner” mode is $400USD I think. I’ve got the bigger industrial pneumatic one in my shop and keep a k5 in my box truck. The clamp on jig still has its place in the shop though when you forget to drill pocket holes prior to assembly.
I have looked at the Kreg Foreman but I don't really do enough pocket holes in my cabinets to make it worth while. For the amount that I do I've found this setup is a perfect balance for me between speed and cost.
Hi Dan, It's a very slick setup. Maybe you could rotate the drill stand so that the bit is pointing the corner of the table. Aside from being more safe you'd get the benefit of a better arm/hand position to grab the drill.
That's a great suggestion. Originally I mounted the wireless charger on the side of the MPT when I first made the mounting bracket but then found that it worked better having it on the front. So it was more designed for being side mounted. A slight turn in angle would definitely be helpful though for the front mount position.
I was thinking flipping it upside down and have the bit pointed towards the table, but under it. It's a wireless charger, so there's no charging contacts making it like a tool holder with a cool benefit.
You might also be able to rotate the charger 90 degrees (around the vertical axis) so that the bit is over the jig's base plate. There are a lot of possible approaches.
That would be great to keep the bit out of the way. The only downside to that setup would be that you would have to flip the drill right side up every time you went to grab it. If you were only going to put it on the charger occasionally though that would be a great setup.
I had thought about doing that but was concerned that the work pieces might end up accidentally hitting the bit in that orientation though. It would make for a more ideal grabbing position though.
I just recently got a K5 and love it, but one of the things that's really different is seeing where I marked the pocket hole location. Is there an easier way to see the mark at the end of the board or you just need to run a line further up above the actual jig to line it up? I went from the R3 to a K5, so definitely different from marking the end of the board for easy line up versus this. Great jig you made and I'll be making one soon myself.
Most of the time when I'm using the K5 I don't bother marking locations. I generally just use a reference point or points on the jig itself to line up the edge of the work piece with to make all the holes consistent from piece to piece. For anything that does require marks I would just extend the marks up high enough that you can reference them at the top of the jig. With a material like melamine that won't be sanded to take marks away I use masking tape to serve as temporary marks.
Thanks Will! I looked online for the vacuum adapter but couldn't find it. I bought it at a local vacuum supply store. If I happen to find it online I will let you know. It works great for adapting from the Bosch hose to common vacuum attachments and the K5 jig.
@@DPShopTalk Wanted to let you know that Amazon does have the iVac 115 Volt, 20 Amp Pro switch on their website and it is less expensive than the Lee Valley site. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/iVac-Pro-Switch-115-Volt/dp/B004JK7SWK?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
What is the drill attachment you use to make countersunk holes. I've seen several youtube videos with something like that, but never seen anyone explain what they are. Also, I don't believe I've seen them in my big box store, so maybe they're a special order thing?
It's a carbide tipped countersink bit with a low friction disc for the depth stop. They are great bits and by far my favorite countersink that I've used. I'll put the link below. amzn.to/2LQ9oSV
Just for different hole spacing. The two holes that are closer together work well for making double holes in narrower work pieces without having to reposition it to make the second hole.
I used a metal adapter that I bought at a local vacuum shop. I tried finding the same one online so I could post a link but haven't been able to find it yet.
Ohmygosh… I landed here after following videos on how to use the K5 jig, and then endured (most of) your video that ended up being adverts for *ANYTHING BUT*... I would normally scroll on-by, but dude - seriously... if you're going to make a video, and title/tag it to make it relevant to the stream I'm/others are following... STAY ON POINT! Stop trying to sell your shit! (and seek attention/free shit from vendors that have their OWN gazllion-dollar marketing budgets!). I watched almost the whole thing before realising this really WASN'T so much a post about the K5 (despite the title), rather it was you, seeking sales for your own table plans, and free shit from vendors. There's 8:31 of my life irretrievably lost. So thanks for that (lesson learned).
If you look at the title it says ultra efficient setup FOR the Kreg K5 jig. The video wasn't meant to be about how to use the jig nor does it claim to be. It's about the setup that I use with my K5 to enhance it. The MPT is part of that setup hence the plug for the plans. Plan sales is also a huge part of what supports the channel and makes it possible for me to take the time away from my work and offer free video content. Sorry you misunderstood the title.
Until I watched this video I did not think that any company would be stupid enough to make a non-removal recharging a battery for a cordless drill as all batteries at some point shit themselves!
The battery is removable the same as the regular batteries. You can even charge these batteries on the regular Bosch charger. They are the exact same batteries as the normal Bosch 18V except with the wireless charging option added.
I honestly cannot figure why anyone would willingly work with MDF or particle board. I do not see a reason to build stuff yourself using the same materials mass produced disposable furniture is made from. Seems to me the big advantage to building ourselves is making things to last generations.
be nice to stay with the header subject matter rather than putting your ads and everything else first wasting the time of those who came here for a specific purpose.. like knowing about the Kreg K5 Pocket-Hole Jig With Sk03 Pocket Hole Screw Kit
The video isn't about the K5 jig, it's about my setup for using it. The MPT is a big part of my setup which is why I talked about it and plan sales for the MPT is a big part of what makes it possible for me to offer free content and take time away from my local work.
Hope you guys find the pocket hole setup useful for your own shop! If you have any tips or tricks for pocket hole drilling that you've found useful, make sure you share them here in the comments. Don't forget to use promo code POCKETHOLE to get 15% off MPT plans at www.danpattison.com/mptplans/
I really appreciate the fact that you tell us the dimensions and the screw sizes so we can get right to it! I want to build projects and the jig is a way to get there more quickly. So the easier it is for me to build the jig, the sooner I can play with projects! Keep up the good work and thanks!
I think the K5 is still Kreg's best pocket hole jig. I love vids like this one because they let me see what other people did and that helps me plan my own setups. I think when I watch, would I do it that way with my K5 in my particular shop area? Is there any way to improve on it for my situation? I also sometimes see things I didn't think about, but should have.
I 8-32 x 1-1/2 machine-screwed my K5 and wings to 12x24 3/4 ACX plywood (because I usually prefer plywood to MDF when possible) with tee nuts countersunk under the plywood, so I can remove and reinstall the jig without thread erosion. My indoor bench doesn't have dog holes. I either trigger-clamp the base to my indoor bench or take it outside (I like outside when weather allows), horizontal-clamping it on a Worx Pegasus folding bench. I couldn't add any wood wing extensions on a 24" wide base.
I liked your dust vac hose setup better than most I've seen with the K5 jig. The hard 1-1/4 wand angled down, instead of a fat 2-1/2 hose with a short adapter, makes for less obstruction of the hand on that side. I used a cheap plastic wand angled down to the edge of the base and connect a 1-7/8 hose to that, much like your setup.
The easier and quicker this and other jigs are to get out, use, clean up, and put away, the more likely I am to use them.
Thanks Dan very informative...by the way your shop is cleaner than most operating rooms.
Your clean shop causes me so much guilt! Good work.
Efficient dust collection goes a long way in keeping it that way.
Love this a lot! Thank you.
Hey Dan, that's a really nice setup you have there. I'm still working with the K4 but it's always done the trick for me. I do like how the K5 has the clamp lever up front. Getting around to the back to pull the clamp can be a tricky deal sometimes with the K4. I will make a video about my pocket hole setup soon. It's a versatile setup, similar, yet quite different from yours. I really like your channel and the way you keep your shop. I like to keep a my shop the same way! 👊🙂
Awesome setup!💥 Nicely done Dan!👍🏻
Paul Peck DrywallTube pretty cool setup .
The K5 is great but can't find a connection for the dust port. Can you help with the connection between the dust port on the K5 and your shop vac hose? Glad I found your channel.
I use a metal adapter that I bought at a local vacuum supply store. I've tried searching online for the same adapter but haven't had any success. If you have a vacuum store locally you could try there.
Your videos are clean, your shop is clean, you are clean. 100% your the type of guy with a Bidet in your house. :)
Lol, I do like to be clean but I can assure you there is no bidet in the house😁
From woodworking to surgery rooms to pants and bidets. This one has it all! LOL Thanks for sharing...the woodworking.
Hola, una consulta te quedaron los agujeros limpios sin astillar ? Saludos
Dan you are very good at making an idea a reality. Love your content. 👍 Lou
I like your tablesaw sled.Dan you are a top woodworker. A smart thinker
Pretty nice setup. That Bosch charging system is pretty darn cool. Never knew they even had this technology for their cordless tools.
The wireless charging never really caught on the way they were hoping. I think part of the reason is that battery runtimes just keep getting better so you have to charge less often anyway.
@Dan Pattison - I see. Interesting ! Thank you for the response.😊👍🏾
Good video Dan, your explanation and detail are very understandable. I didn't see any on your jig but one thing I did was drill a couple 3/4" holes in mine to hang on the wall... have a good one.. You just earned a subscriber.
I appreciate the subscription! I haven't decided for sure yet where I'm going to store my jig but I'll probably end up drilling some holes to hang it on the wall. Before I made the base plate it got stored in the cabinet under my assembly table but doesn't fit there now.
Is their a rule of thumb that you use as to how many pocket holes are necessary for a given side length? Say every 6 inches or something like that?
It really depends on the application and how much strength is required. For a typical melamine cabinet part I would go somewhere around every 12" or so.
Interesting. I wish I knew the safety tip at 3:18 before my accident. I accidently created a pocket hole next to my belly button. Being very OCD, the lack of symmetry was gnawing at me.
So I also pocket holed my belly button. Now, perfect symmetry. But it was a painful episode in my life.
If only I had released the episode sooner, you would have been spared the pain...😯😁
But if you pocket holed next to and on belly button, you lack symmetry. You need one more.....JK
Nice shop setup. Very efficient, well done.
I'd like to know more about that power block.
Anything in particular?
I was watching the video and thought "what pants are those" 10 seconds later you explained it. I will stick with my quick removable apron. Good video.
I was reading your mind😄
Dan I have had difficulty finding a dust connection adapter. I don't see a reference to the one your using for this K-5 setup. Thanks. Really nicely done videos.
I actually bought that metal vacuum adapter at a local vacuum shop. I was hoping to find a source online to link to but so far haven't been able to. If I find one I'll let you know though.
@@DPShopTalk thats nice of you to respond. The connection to the k-5 has been my biggest challenge, any tension and it snaps off. The style of your show is really enjoyable to watch. I appreciate it
What did you use to connect the dust extractor hose to the Kreg jig vacuum fitting?
It's a metal vacuum adapter I bought at a local vacuum supply shop. The shop has since gone out of business and I've never been able to find the adapter online. If you have a local vacuum supply store I would maybe try there.
I commend you on your attention to safety. Dust collection, cartridge respirators, safety glasses, hearing protection, push sticks - all go a long way to making sure you will get to enjoy your old age in good health. You might want to think about removing your wedding ring. A ring can change a minor table saw mishap from a "nick" needing a few stitches into a ripped off finger.
I have a special cup hook in my shop that I hang my ring from - that way my wife knows it's for safety :)
That's a great point. I keep meaning to take my ring off when I'm working but usually forget. It's one of those things that you forget you're wearing because it's always on.
I like the cup hook idea👍
Hi Dan, a really nice set up & I love the tidy nature of your shop, do you prefer the K5 over the K4 & if so why ?, thanks for posting great videos 🍻👍
Thanks! I haven't tried the K4 jig so I can't compare the two from experience but the main reason I went with the K5 was the front mounted clamp handle where as the K4 has a rear mounted handle.
I have tried both and I now have the K5. Ease of adjusting the clamp on the K5 is one thing in it's favor but the biggest thing is the location of the clamp handle. It is in front of the work piece, not BEHIND the work piece as with the K4. So, on large pieces where it would be difficult to reach around the work piece and secure the clamp using the K4, it is within easy reach with the K5. Very quick process putting in pocket holes on large pieces. Just my 2 cents.
Always a pleasure your videos. Great work
Have you looked into getting a Kreg foreman? Since you’re a professional and build a lot of cabinets it would probably be worth it to you. Their low end “home owner” mode is $400USD I think. I’ve got the bigger industrial pneumatic one in my shop and keep a k5 in my box truck. The clamp on jig still has its place in the shop though when you forget to drill pocket holes prior to assembly.
I have looked at the Kreg Foreman but I don't really do enough pocket holes in my cabinets to make it worth while. For the amount that I do I've found this setup is a perfect balance for me between speed and cost.
bro love your videos!!! so much inspiration for me. cant wait to do alot in my own shop
Hi Dan,
It's a very slick setup. Maybe you could rotate the drill stand so that the bit is pointing the corner of the table. Aside from being more safe you'd get the benefit of a better arm/hand position to grab the drill.
That's a great suggestion. Originally I mounted the wireless charger on the side of the MPT when I first made the mounting bracket but then found that it worked better having it on the front. So it was more designed for being side mounted. A slight turn in angle would definitely be helpful though for the front mount position.
I was thinking flipping it upside down and have the bit pointed towards the table, but under it. It's a wireless charger, so there's no charging contacts making it like a tool holder with a cool benefit.
You might also be able to rotate the charger 90 degrees (around the vertical axis) so that the bit is over the jig's base plate.
There are a lot of possible approaches.
That would be great to keep the bit out of the way. The only downside to that setup would be that you would have to flip the drill right side up every time you went to grab it. If you were only going to put it on the charger occasionally though that would be a great setup.
I had thought about doing that but was concerned that the work pieces might end up accidentally hitting the bit in that orientation though. It would make for a more ideal grabbing position though.
Very nice setup
I just recently got a K5 and love it, but one of the things that's really different is seeing where I marked the pocket hole location. Is there an easier way to see the mark at the end of the board or you just need to run a line further up above the actual jig to line it up? I went from the R3 to a K5, so definitely different from marking the end of the board for easy line up versus this. Great jig you made and I'll be making one soon myself.
Most of the time when I'm using the K5 I don't bother marking locations. I generally just use a reference point or points on the jig itself to line up the edge of the work piece with to make all the holes consistent from piece to piece. For anything that does require marks I would just extend the marks up high enough that you can reference them at the top of the jig. With a material like melamine that won't be sanded to take marks away I use masking tape to serve as temporary marks.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Dan, great video, thanks for sharing. Would you recomend K5 or Armor tool?
Thanks! I've only ever used the K5 jig so I can't really comment on how the two compare unfortunately.
As usual, your video is one of the best on any given subject. Loads of great ideas. Where can I get that vacuum adaptor?
Thanks Will! I looked online for the vacuum adapter but couldn't find it. I bought it at a local vacuum supply store. If I happen to find it online I will let you know. It works great for adapting from the Bosch hose to common vacuum attachments and the K5 jig.
Dna, you mention the iVac switch attached to your Bosch Vacuum. I did not see a link for either one of those in your related links.
Just emailed you a link for the i Vac at Lee Valley
@@DPShopTalk Wanted to let you know that Amazon does have the iVac 115 Volt, 20 Amp Pro switch on their website and it is less expensive than the Lee Valley site. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/iVac-Pro-Switch-115-Volt/dp/B004JK7SWK?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
Nice setup Dan, Kudos. Thank you for sharing. All the best from North London UK.
Very nice!!!
What is the drill attachment you use to make countersunk holes. I've seen several youtube videos with something like that, but never seen anyone explain what they are. Also, I don't believe I've seen them in my big box store, so maybe they're a special order thing?
It's a carbide tipped countersink bit with a low friction disc for the depth stop. They are great bits and by far my favorite countersink that I've used. I'll put the link below.
amzn.to/2LQ9oSV
Does the charging the battery at all times effect the life of the battery?
Since they are lithium ion batteries it's not supposed to. I've never noticed any negative effects from the charging.
Why 3 holes on the jig?
Just for different hole spacing. The two holes that are closer together work well for making double holes in narrower work pieces without having to reposition it to make the second hole.
What did you use there to connect the extractor hose to the kreg dust Port?
I used a metal adapter that I bought at a local vacuum shop. I tried finding the same one online so I could post a link but haven't been able to find it yet.
@@DPShopTalk glad it's not just me finding it hard to bridge that Gap!
If I happen to find the same adapter online I'll let you know
6 out of 8 mins we talked about MPT, pants, Drill but no pocket holing...
The 2 #8 inch & 1/8th inch screws: What methodology did you use to come up with 1" & 1/8th" screw length?
I use that screw length all the time doing cabinet installs so I have lots of them on hand which is why I used that length.
@@DPShopTalk Thanks ☺
What?! Do you mean to tell me you don't have metric screws up there in the Great White North?!
Ohmygosh… I landed here after following videos on how to use the K5 jig, and then endured (most of) your video that ended up being adverts for *ANYTHING BUT*... I would normally scroll on-by, but dude - seriously... if you're going to make a video, and title/tag it to make it relevant to the stream I'm/others are following... STAY ON POINT! Stop trying to sell your shit! (and seek attention/free shit from vendors that have their OWN gazllion-dollar marketing budgets!). I watched almost the whole thing before realising this really WASN'T so much a post about the K5 (despite the title), rather it was you, seeking sales for your own table plans, and free shit from vendors. There's 8:31 of my life irretrievably lost. So thanks for that (lesson learned).
If you look at the title it says ultra efficient setup FOR the Kreg K5 jig. The video wasn't meant to be about how to use the jig nor does it claim to be. It's about the setup that I use with my K5 to enhance it. The MPT is part of that setup hence the plug for the plans. Plan sales is also a huge part of what supports the channel and makes it possible for me to take the time away from my work and offer free video content. Sorry you misunderstood the title.
Until I watched this video I did not think that any company would be stupid enough to make a non-removal recharging a battery for a cordless drill as all batteries at some point shit themselves!
The battery is removable the same as the regular batteries. You can even charge these batteries on the regular Bosch charger. They are the exact same batteries as the normal Bosch 18V except with the wireless charging option added.
WHAT? Those pants are $98 bucks? No wonder you always wear them! :D
Lol yeah they aren't cheap but I've had the same 3 pairs for the past 5 years and they're still going so in my opinion they're worth the cost.
Warning: He doesn't start talking about the K5 till 2:26.
I'd probably just cut 4 pieces off of 3/4 inch dowel stock for the locating dogs.
That would also work.
backing clack sound is super annoying tho
Not sure what you mean
I honestly cannot figure why anyone would willingly work with MDF or particle board. I do not see a reason to build stuff yourself using the same materials mass produced disposable furniture is made from. Seems to me the big advantage to building ourselves is making things to last generations.
It all depends on what the client wants. I definitely prefer real wood but most jobs call for MDF and melamine now unfortunately.
I swear, overzelous, paranoid safety nazis along with PC police have sucked every iota of joy out of this life!
be nice to stay with the header subject matter rather than putting your ads and everything else first wasting the time of those who came here for a specific purpose.. like knowing about the Kreg K5 Pocket-Hole Jig With Sk03 Pocket Hole Screw Kit
The video isn't about the K5 jig, it's about my setup for using it. The MPT is a big part of my setup which is why I talked about it and plan sales for the MPT is a big part of what makes it possible for me to offer free content and take time away from my local work.
lol meh