Exactly they played who were in front of them. How can they be slighted for playing two 8th seeds when they were the 1st seed in their conference and the Celtics and Bucks weren’t good enough to beat them.
Bob was right tho. Why are we acting like Miami wasn’t missing their 20ppg scorer? The team had a bunch of scoring droughts where no one could do anything. Tyler’s entire role on the team has been to be that guy for those situations. He’s a microwave player. He would absolutely help Miami
@@ithinkimanaries2620 you can do that for every championship team in history regardless of the sport. They didn’t choose their comp they just beat them
Exactly. If Butler actually showed up the series may have went in their favor. Playoff Jimmy shit the bed now they’re finding an excuse to slight Jokic
Comparing AG and Herro is wrong.. Because AG is the pivotal defender for Denver, and Herro's production is very well replicated by Heat role players.... Brown and KCP were great for Denver, but let's remember that Nuggets gentlemen swept the playoffs, and this was a dominant run... If for example they didn't have bruce, they would still be contwnders and probably won all those series, just by a game more... When Bruce Brown had to step up in game 4 it was because of Jokic foul teouble, which was instructed by the refs to keep Miami alive. Bruce is a great role player, hustler, defender,can score in different ways... But he is still a role player... In game 5 he couldn't hit the ocean with his shot...
I agree that even with Herro playing Denver still wins the series due to their size advantages and the Jokic/Murray PnR game but to say Herro would have NO EFFECT on the series is disingenuous. Herro would be another player for the Heat that can get his own shot and stretch out the floor with his shooting, plus potentially putting more pressure on Jokic in the PnR if that’s him and Bam running it instead of Gab/Max and Bam.
I don’t know the context behind Ticket saying this but he DID have the Heat to win in the finals, regardless of Herro being injured but now that Denver won, the Heat is just an 8th seed? The double standard is crazy.
“Tyler herro couldn’t extend the series or win the heat another game” casual take as usual. Bruce brown won games, Braun won games, Rui won games, AR15 won games. You don’t need to be a Jokic level player to flip a game or series. In close games every player has a chance to steal or significantly impact a game. No matter wtf he’s done up to that point. Hypotheticals are pointless though
You honestly think Tyler Hero is THAT impactful of a player that the Heat go from almost getting swept to winning the finals? When did he become Michael Jordan?
@@Lastnameabdi Hakeem played in the era of GREATEST big men and that was in the 90's by far. And the West in the 90's was lethal and GREAT unlike the West in the 80's was arguably one of worst Conferences in NBA HISTORY. Hakeem the most SKILLED and WILLED who also won the title without another Superstar.
@@Lastnameabdi God rest his soul, but with all due respect, bill Russell doesn’t even come close in translating to other eras compared to guys like Hakeem, Kareem, Shaq, even wilt even though he’s overrated. And I’m not talking about greatness, I’m talking about who’s better, there’s a difference. Because obviously bill is greater than Shaq if we have the mindset of relative to their era, but I can’t take someone seriously if they choose bill over Shaq as the man on their team. And as far as Kareem, he’s the 2nd best big man to me but Hakeem is still better.
It was scary seeing herro get clamped by tatum in the final seconds last year. He didn’t want no action. Im saying this as a person who wanted the heat to win btw
I agree with ticket, chill, etc. Bruce brown was very very important off the bench. he WAS their bench tbh. Dude was very impactful in the whole playoffs. Had huge scoring nights when it mattered and got timely steals and great defense/ hustle the whole run. Jeff green at this age and Christian Braun weren’t gonna be able to do what Bruce brown did. I think he cookied KD 4 times in a game and also completely took out heat roles players, Deangelo Russell etc.
Not saying we’d win but he’d definitely help out. Miami desperately needed a scorer and their best 3 level scorer was unavailable. That’s a solid 20ppg they were missing and relying on Strus/Gabe to try and make up for it. Herro could’ve definitely helped
@@ithinkimanaries2620All other players that shined while Tyler was gone wouldn't play like they did if he was there... They replicated his production by raising their level. And NBA finals is different man, the nerves come to play, especially for shooters. Also, Tyler would be a target on defense, so that's another dimension to consider. Nuggets were a great shooting team whole season, and they were missing so many wide open shots in the finals too....
@@ShiljamannnStrus averaged 5 points in the finals and had two games where he made zero shots. You don’t think Tyler in that role instead wouldn’t be able to produce more? Y’all are greatly underestimating Tyler’s role for this team. He’s the go to guy for when Jimmy or Bam aren’t on. And he’s also a secondary/tertiary ball handler. Two things Miami desperately needed this series.
So y’all just ignore the reason why Herro and Duncan never see the floor together and why when Herro went down duncan got back in the rotation. Cause they are literally traffic cones defending. Even last year herros main defensive attribute is deflecting and gambling on steals. Against better guards he gets cooked. Strus I can say is a better defender even though Herro a better offensive player but it doesn’t matter if herro drops 30 if he’s letting the other guards cook too
People are missing the fact that not only was Herro out, they were missing arguably their #1 one on one perimeter defender in Oladipo who also gives you 10 ppg. He also aint letting Brown go off in those games. The question should be if the Heat were fully healthy, could a Denver team missing Gordon and Brown win...thats the equivalent to what happened. The answer is no.
Gordon provides both elite defense and good offense as well. Brown is significantly better than Oladipo at this point in their career as well so idk how you came up with that dumbahh analogy. The heat made the finals without both of them so why couldn’t they get it done in the finals? Stop making excuses.
@@patrickgramblin4316 It don't matter how good you think they're, the fact is when healthy they're top 5 players on the Heat and avg 30 ppg between the two of them. Dipo may not be the same, but he is still a good defender and can occasionally give you points. What team is winning a chip with their 3rd and 4th/5th best player missing? If Denver had the same thing happen you would sing a different tune.
Dipo was definitely a contributor last playoffs, especially on defense. He was in the rotation before he got hurt again, but you acting like another good defender to help with Brown and Murray is a non factor lol
@@jgip You're massively overstating Oladipo's importance. Tyler Herro's tho is fair... but then again, they reached the Finals with him only having 19 total minutes played in the playoffs so... yeah.
Let’s be real, Vincent and Strus were utterly bad in shooting during the finals. They were picking up the “performance” that Herro would usually do during the other series, but when the lights were brightest they were no shows. They needed a bucket getter like Herro that would’ve at least made this series 6 games, I just don’t think they win this series cause they’re too tiny in comparison but the series would be more competitive for sure instead of the blowouts we got during game 3 and 4.
Y'all put so much hype around MIA beating MIL in the 1st rd, then they beat the Knicks, then they beat Boston in a closeout game 7, all of that done w/o Herro. So how come all of a sudden MIA needs Herro? People talked about trading Tyler throughout the season but now they needed him 😂
Low trippin. If you think a team adding a 20ppg scorer wouldn’t have an effect on the series then idk what to tell you. Strus averaged 5 ppg while playing damn near 30mpg.
He would've been coming back from not playing a game in 6+ weeks. The difference would've been very slight. D lo sucks, i love bruce but he didnt take him out the series, hes just a bum.
“You got into basketball when u realized RUclips could get u rich” 😂😂😂
I had the same reaction as marz & chill but mine was a lot louder 😂😂😂
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When ticket is mentioning jokic and the nuggets having an easy run, it’s a major difference between having it easy and making it look easy
Lakers were best form team since the break
It was easy bro…
@@JesusOrDestruction they made it look easy🥱
Lol my logic when people talk about Jordan comp
Exactly they played who were in front of them. How can they be slighted for playing two 8th seeds when they were the 1st seed in their conference and the Celtics and Bucks weren’t good enough to beat them.
When mfs can’t debate, they result to insults. Low won hands down
Y’all funny 😂
Bob was right tho. Why are we acting like Miami wasn’t missing their 20ppg scorer? The team had a bunch of scoring droughts where no one could do anything. Tyler’s entire role on the team has been to be that guy for those situations. He’s a microwave player. He would absolutely help Miami
@@ithinkimanaries2620but he was missing most of the playoffs
@@mackcity74gdn89that’s his point…
@@ithinkimanaries2620 you can do that for every championship team in history regardless of the sport. They didn’t choose their comp they just beat them
They act like Tyler hero is goddamn Michael Jordan wtffff
😂😂😂😂😂
He is
Exactly. If Butler actually showed up the series may have went in their favor. Playoff Jimmy shit the bed now they’re finding an excuse to slight Jokic
Yep they even in the finals even without herro and now they need him
They discredit everybody’s rings except Jordan …. Y’all must owe Jordan a debt we don’t know about
Naw, Jordan is just god to most fans
@@MrTimLee84 I’d rather people just say that then make up bullshit or respond 6-0 to everything 😭
The capping was actually crazy
Comparing AG and Herro is wrong.. Because AG is the pivotal defender for Denver, and Herro's production is very well replicated by Heat role players.... Brown and KCP were great for Denver, but let's remember that Nuggets gentlemen swept the playoffs, and this was a dominant run... If for example they didn't have bruce, they would still be contwnders and probably won all those series, just by a game more... When Bruce Brown had to step up in game 4 it was because of Jokic foul teouble, which was instructed by the refs to keep Miami alive. Bruce is a great role player, hustler, defender,can score in different ways... But he is still a role player... In game 5 he couldn't hit the ocean with his shot...
Yeah it's usually a bad thing to lose a 20ppg scorer if you have a chance at a chip
Yeah the same dude who averages 12 points in the playoffs??
@@Kentrelldiaries 12 points they coulda used
I agree that even with Herro playing Denver still wins the series due to their size advantages and the Jokic/Murray PnR game but to say Herro would have NO EFFECT on the series is disingenuous. Herro would be another player for the Heat that can get his own shot and stretch out the floor with his shooting, plus potentially putting more pressure on Jokic in the PnR if that’s him and Bam running it instead of Gab/Max and Bam.
I don’t know the context behind Ticket saying this but he DID have the Heat to win in the finals, regardless of Herro being injured but now that Denver won, the Heat is just an 8th seed? The double standard is crazy.
“Tyler herro couldn’t extend the series or win the heat another game” casual take as usual. Bruce brown won games, Braun won games, Rui won games, AR15 won games. You don’t need to be a Jokic level player to flip a game or series. In close games every player has a chance to steal or significantly impact a game. No matter wtf he’s done up to that point. Hypotheticals are pointless though
You honestly think Tyler Hero is THAT impactful of a player that the Heat go from almost getting swept to winning the finals? When did he become Michael Jordan?
@@blackanimelover18 He is their second best player though so what's your point ??
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Saying that a 20ppg player wouldn’t make a difference is insane…
He dont make a difference ...stop it
0:18 he hit it right on the head .
Nah don’t try to play LOW like that. I don’t always agree with his takes but I wouldn’t go that far
He talking about dub lol he did hit the nail on the head
@@nv3095it’s a fact
@@obviouslyfamoustv1630him and low
5:28 COOKED STATS CANT TELL YOU THIS.
Daily reminder: Hakeem Olajuwon is the best big man ever
Ever is a stretch in the 90s he probably was but u can’t forget guys like bill Russell wilt Kareem etc
@@Lastnameabdi
Hakeem played in the era of GREATEST big men and that was in the 90's by far.
And the West in the 90's was lethal and GREAT unlike the West in the 80's was arguably one of worst Conferences in NBA HISTORY.
Hakeem the most SKILLED and WILLED who also won the title without another Superstar.
@@Lastnameabdi Wilt had no comp
Wilt only won 2 rings makes no sense
@@Lastnameabdi God rest his soul, but with all due respect, bill Russell doesn’t even come close in translating to other eras compared to guys like Hakeem, Kareem, Shaq, even wilt even though he’s overrated. And I’m not talking about greatness, I’m talking about who’s better, there’s a difference. Because obviously bill is greater than Shaq if we have the mindset of relative to their era, but I can’t take someone seriously if they choose bill over Shaq as the man on their team. And as far as Kareem, he’s the 2nd best big man to me but Hakeem is still better.
The Jokic “didn’t play anyone” narrative is so ridiculous
He played an 8th seed in Minnesota because they were the 1 seed. And he can’t control who comes out the east
That means nobody can hold nun of the warriors championship runs against them if that’s the case
Those 8 seeds knocked off high seeds to get there.
1 8th seed you play because your the 1 seed....
He can’t control who he plays
Marz did not want to laugh at that 😭😭😭
0:18 SHIT
If low was in it for the money then he would’ve just only did gaming. That’s were the money is
Who does he think Herro is 😭
It was scary seeing herro get clamped by tatum in the final seconds last year. He didn’t want no action. Im saying this as a person who wanted the heat to win btw
Herro was injured last year too. What are you talking about?
If marz not here does the pod make a sound ?
How y’all just assuming Tyler hero would drop buckets 😂
Tyler Herro would not change shit lol
I agree with ticket, chill, etc. Bruce brown was very very important off the bench. he WAS their bench tbh. Dude was very impactful in the whole playoffs. Had huge scoring nights when it mattered and got timely steals and great defense/ hustle the whole run. Jeff green at this age and Christian Braun weren’t gonna be able to do what Bruce brown did. I think he cookied KD 4 times in a game and also completely took out heat roles players, Deangelo Russell etc.
Enough of the damn what if's
Tyler wouldn’t have made a difference, can we stop creating bullshit narratives?
Not saying we’d win but he’d definitely help out. Miami desperately needed a scorer and their best 3 level scorer was unavailable. That’s a solid 20ppg they were missing and relying on Strus/Gabe to try and make up for it. Herro could’ve definitely helped
@@ithinkimanaries2620 so there wouldn’t have been a difference the nuggets still win
@@ithinkimanaries2620All other players that shined while Tyler was gone wouldn't play like they did if he was there... They replicated his production by raising their level. And NBA finals is different man, the nerves come to play, especially for shooters. Also, Tyler would be a target on defense, so that's another dimension to consider. Nuggets were a great shooting team whole season, and they were missing so many wide open shots in the finals too....
@@ShiljamannnStrus averaged 5 points in the finals and had two games where he made zero shots. You don’t think Tyler in that role instead wouldn’t be able to produce more? Y’all are greatly underestimating Tyler’s role for this team. He’s the go to guy for when Jimmy or Bam aren’t on. And he’s also a secondary/tertiary ball handler. Two things Miami desperately needed this series.
@@ithinkimanaries2620why would he not drop like has has in previous postseasons down to 12-14?
Ticket never lie tbh
How can u be a terrible offense in the NBA FINALS
🤣🤣🤣🤣 ox cooked wit that you only do this for the money take
Even with Herro....i still dont think he cam help Miami....He is a bad defender
Same with strus and robinson
So y’all just ignore the reason why Herro and Duncan never see the floor together and why when Herro went down duncan got back in the rotation. Cause they are literally traffic cones defending. Even last year herros main defensive attribute is deflecting and gambling on steals. Against better guards he gets cooked. Strus I can say is a better defender even though Herro a better offensive player but it doesn’t matter if herro drops 30 if he’s letting the other guards cook too
Chef Ox 🐂
Imma say it again... Herro, Sub, Hoagie, Sammich Nuggs in 5
People are missing the fact that not only was Herro out, they were missing arguably their #1 one on one perimeter defender in Oladipo who also gives you 10 ppg. He also aint letting Brown go off in those games. The question should be if the Heat were fully healthy, could a Denver team missing Gordon and Brown win...thats the equivalent to what happened. The answer is no.
Oladipo has been injured for like 3 years str8. Oladipo isn’t even close to the same defender he once was neither so stop that bs.
Gordon provides both elite defense and good offense as well. Brown is significantly better than Oladipo at this point in their career as well so idk how you came up with that dumbahh analogy. The heat made the finals without both of them so why couldn’t they get it done in the finals? Stop making excuses.
@@patrickgramblin4316 It don't matter how good you think they're, the fact is when healthy they're top 5 players on the Heat and avg 30 ppg between the two of them. Dipo may not be the same, but he is still a good defender and can occasionally give you points. What team is winning a chip with their 3rd and 4th/5th best player missing? If Denver had the same thing happen you would sing a different tune.
Dipo was definitely a contributor last playoffs, especially on defense. He was in the rotation before he got hurt again, but you acting like another good defender to help with Brown and Murray is a non factor lol
@@jgip
You're massively overstating Oladipo's importance. Tyler Herro's tho is fair... but then again, they reached the Finals with him only having 19 total minutes played in the playoffs so... yeah.
Let’s be real, Vincent and Strus were utterly bad in shooting during the finals. They were picking up the “performance” that Herro would usually do during the other series, but when the lights were brightest they were no shows. They needed a bucket getter like Herro that would’ve at least made this series 6 games, I just don’t think they win this series cause they’re too tiny in comparison but the series would be more competitive for sure instead of the blowouts we got during game 3 and 4.
looking back at this man you spitting.
Ticket so mad I love it nuggets nation!!!!
Denver was great all season long.
How is Denver fault who they play wtf?? You can only play what’s in front of you 😂😂😂
Low must be falling in love with that frying pan
I see what you did there 😭
Giannis couldn't win a game against the 8th seed heat😂😂😂😂
Y'all put so much hype around MIA beating MIL in the 1st rd, then they beat the Knicks, then they beat Boston in a closeout game 7, all of that done w/o Herro. So how come all of a sudden MIA needs Herro? People talked about trading Tyler throughout the season but now they needed him 😂
Herro the 43% shooter?
Nuggets dynasty baby!!!
Stop it bra Tyler wouldn't have did nothing frfr .
Denver wins regardless bruh
Low trippin. If you think a team adding a 20ppg scorer wouldn’t have an effect on the series then idk what to tell you. Strus averaged 5 ppg while playing damn near 30mpg.
Nuggets would still win the series, regardless of Herro
@@DR-110agree but I feel with herro heat get 2 games
@@DR-110 that wasn’t the point. Low said Herro would have 0 effect on the series and that isn’t true
@@sleazytydidn’t he say it wouldn’t change the outcome ?
@@22thedon90no he said Tyler would have no effect on the series at all. That’s just ridiculous
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Low be cappin ode 😭 he needs to get exposed more often
Low the casual
OX EXPOSED LOW!!
He would've been coming back from not playing a game in 6+ weeks. The difference would've been very slight.
D lo sucks, i love bruce but he didnt take him out the series, hes just a bum.
Low is nutz Shaq is operated huh Shaq top 3 you really had to see it and live it not just read stats or utube like AI you had to live it and see it
I believe tyler herro makes a difference
Ox lost when he got personal, just bc you know basketball doesn’t make your takes valid. We already debunked that